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Embracing Your Journey: A Holistic Approach to Health Coaching

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Unlocking your true potential and embracing self-discovery is at the heart of our latest episode on Keep Hope Alive. This week, we welcome Allison Steinke, an inspiring health coach and holistic nutritionist, who has turned her personal journey of overcoming adversity into a mission to empower other women. After navigating the complexities of a long-term abusive marriage and emerging as a single mom to 11 children, Allison epitomizes what it means to truly thrive rather than merely survive.

Together, we explore the significance of individualized health coaching. Allison firmly believes that one-size-fits-all solutions simply do not work. Instead, she emphasizes creating tailored strategies that resonate with each person’s unique lifestyle, energy levels, and mental wellness needs. Her approach acknowledges that altering your life isn’t just about what you eat or how often you exercise; it involves addressing emotional aspects and finding what truly motivates you.

As we delve deeper into conversation, Allison shares practical tips on how to take small steps toward better health, celebrating even the minor victories. She inspires listeners to start with manageable goals and recognize that perfection isn’t the aim—progress is.

Beyond personal tips, we discuss the invaluable role of support networks, whether it’s through friends, group coaching, or community. In a world where societal pressures can lead to isolation, Allison’s insights strike a chord, breathing hope and encouragement into those feeling overwhelmed.

This episode is a treasure trove for anyone seeking motivation to reshape their lives. We highlight the notion that it is okay to be vulnerable and that embracing our true selves is crucial to finding peace and realizing our purpose. Join us on this heartfelt journey—let’s support each other in living authentically and with intention. Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review if you find inspiration in our discussion!

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Keep Help Alive podcast. Today I have Allison Steinke with us and she's a health coach and we're going to be diving into her journey of what she does to help other people out in this world. So welcome, I'm so glad you came on. Thank you, oh, you are so welcome. Before we get started, allison, I have a question for you. Oh, you are so welcome. Before we get started, allison, I have a question for you.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Hi, yeah, I'm Allison. I live in Northern Canada and I'm a health coach and a holistic nutritionist, and my focus really stems from my story, which is one of coming out of long abusive marriage, grieving from that, changing my mindset, getting myself healthy, working on my unique like building routines that fit into my life according to my unique energy flow and personality and lifestyle and goals, and I feel like I'm thriving, I love life, I'm excited, even as a single mom with 11 kids, and so now I help other women to do, to do 11. Yeah, so now I help other other women to do the same thing, whether it's, you know, they've gone through divorce or they've just woken up after years of serving their family or pouring their lives into their careers. They're like, hey, I need to do something for myself. I need to, I need to get healthy, I need to change my mindset and really thrive instead of survive.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha, yeah, it sounds like that journey that you went on. I've been married three times and I had to leave two of them for one reason or another, but when you find yourself again, that is the best. I mean that feeling of knowing who you are as a person. It helps you know, give you the structure of what your future is going to look like and, if you ever like, for me, I want to date again. But I have so many things I'm looking out for and I don't want to call them boundaries all the time. But there are stopping points Like I will not go past this, I will not be treated this way and stuff like that. So, but finding yourself and as a single mom, yes, making the time to sit down and really focus on what you want out of life is so important. It sounds like you are striving very much, so, so, but loving kids, girl, you got to tell me about that.

Speaker 2:

Well, my oldest, well, my oldest two are adults, the youngest is three, so I have all ages. And at home school and it's always a party. Every day is a party. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of work, but it is.

Speaker 1:

And then, of course, with the weather in Canada, you probably are getting snow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's warm right now, but it's long winters. It feels like half the year is winter and it's ruling.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, you see, I couldn't do that, even though I'm from New Jersey. I mean, I've been in Texas for over 35 years and I mean it's very different. In Texas it was like 10 degrees last week and now 80 degrees. So it goes back and forth and people are always sick and coughing. And people are always sick and coughing, sneezing, we never know. I saw a bumblebee already and I was like I'm so confused here. What is it winter or spring?

Speaker 1:

I bet you, the bee was confused too. Yeah, has to be. What are they called? The little dandelion flowers? They like so much. I was like, okay, well, I got my son in spring football. So yeah, it's becoming spring, so all right. So helping other people, like when you were younger, is this something you knew you wanted to do and you just kind of followed those steps?

Speaker 2:

No do, and you just kind of followed those steps. No um, I've always been interested in health, at least my entire adult life, and healthy you know nutrition and I've always liked helping people.

Speaker 2:

Um, I went. I I was went to school for business, changed my mind, decided I wanted to go into psychology. So I went to university for a little bit, started to take psychology and then I met my husband and left school. But it wasn't until about five years ago or so that I really honed in on the health coaching. A friend of mine, who's a physician it was starting was going to start a holistic fertility clinic and she asked if I would work for her as a health coach and I said, absolutely, that's totally up my alley, I would love to do that. So at that point I got certified as a holistic nutritionist and a health coach. She did not end up starting her clinic after all she might in the future, I don't know. But it was okay because I just right before I got certified right after sorry I had my 11th child.

Speaker 2:

Um, I was very busy so I wasn't something I really planned on building a business, marketing myself, all that. So I had some clients on and off over the years, but, um, it wasn't until after I left my husband and sort of finished grieving that I really decided this is what I want to do. I really want to help women. I really want to coach. I thought I wanted to get into writing, so I studied writing, but I only wanted to write for coaches.

Speaker 2:

And then one day I'm like you know it actually was funny is I ended up with a coaching client by accident and against my will. I was trying to sell her on copywriting and she's like no, I want coaching. So she's great, I love her, she's my ADHD coach and I'm her health coach. We share trade services, but we've been together for months now and I said, oh yeah, this is what I'm supposed to be doing, this is what I'm made to do, this is what aligns with my strengths and my personality and how I was created. So I am so happy to be back in the space.

Speaker 1:

See, I love hearing that from you. This is what my purpose is basically, and I was created to be here to help people. So now you mentioned ADHD, correct? So there's different things that you're coaching and I guess can you tell me about the range of different things you help people with?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm just a health coach because most of my kids have ADHD and I do and my ex-husband has it. I'm very familiar with ADHD and can help people who are neurodivergent. But that's not my expertise. I am a health coach and so within that is mindset's a big part of it, and nutrition and healthy habits, and you can't just make habits without addressing mindset, and sometimes the past comes up, sometimes emotional things come up, and so we work through those. That's all. That's all part of it.

Speaker 2:

It's not just I don't tell people hey, this is what you're supposed to eat and this is how many times you have to exercise and this is what you have to do, because no one's going to stick to that. You know, it's really an individualized, personal thing for all of us and if we want to make changes that will last, it has to fit with who we are and fit our lifestyle. So I'm really really big on individuality and being judgment free and honoring people's differences and working with that instead of against it. And I think I really feel that, especially because I do have ADHD and the neurotypical world has always said do that this way, clean your house this way, make habits this way, do this time of day, do this, do this, do this, and it's very hard for us to just cross off things on our to-do list.

Speaker 2:

It comes things have to come from a deeper motivation and fit our energy flow. So, like, certain time of day I have more mental energy, certain time of day I have more physical energy, and I've been able thankfully I'm in a career and a lifestyle where I can fit my schedule and my day into how my energy works so that I can be as productive as possible. So I think I was kind of forced into the space of really honoring and recognizing people's differences and making habits that work for them.

Speaker 1:

That is amazing, I like that. Yeah, you got me thinking, you know, when you were just talking about that, like it's hard for me sometimes to like after a show is done, I had to go buy a whiteboard and I put, okay, I advertise the podcast here here here and do it in this routine because I've already timed it. That is about 50 minutes for me to process and get the podcast out and into the world of social media and stuff. So I was like if I go out of that or take a break, it ruins it. And that's just me.

Speaker 1:

The way I think is because I'm a perfectionist and I want it done. And I had my own photography company and the one thing people always ask well, when do I get to see the pictures? And it's like I'll give you a sneak peek and usually I would give them the link after I would edit each day at night it would be uploaded what's already done so they could see right away. And I was like when I start a podcast, they could see right away. And I was like, when I start a podcast, are they going to be wanting it very quick? And I was like, of course, I would want mine very quick.

Speaker 1:

So I just put that in tune. If I'm going to be a podcaster, I'm going to make sure they get it the same day or even the next day as a healthy habit. But I like the also what you said about you know you need to know this side of it before you can work on nutrition and stuff. Because that is so true. Because if this is not fixed, I mean we're already probably having a hard time eating to go with what's going on in our anxiety and our stress levels on a daily basis. So I guess my next question would be after you figure out what's happening, do you draw out like a map how to make it easier or what's the process?

Speaker 2:

Well, I do have a program that clients can go through. It's step-by-step. This week we address your vision. This week we address, like these, different options, um, but there's an educational piece. But each session is client led, like what is burdening you, what's on your heart, what do you want to address today? And sometimes they'll start with one goal and pull things out like oh, there's actually.

Speaker 2:

You know, I'm just trying to fit something into my routine, but I found that there's actually this very heavy like emotional reason why I have a block here, why I'm trying to do this, and so it's very individual. It's led by the client. I'm there to support them and to guide them, but I don't really dictate anything. Guide them, but I don't really dictate anything. I'm there to, yeah, just just to support and guide what they are trying to accomplish, what they are what's on their heart. Because if I tell them what they should be doing, it's not going to stick, it's not going to last If they're the ones who say this is what I want to do. This is a change, this is. They're the experts, everyone's. I'm the expert of my life, I'm the expert of what's going on in my world and you're the expert of what's going on in your world Right, and so you're the best person.

Speaker 2:

You're the best person to be able to say this is what's we'll make the biggest change. This is what I think I need to fix, what I need to work on, and then I would support you in that, in whatever your goals are.

Speaker 1:

That is so good. Yeah, because sometimes we need to have that coaching to be the biggest cheerleader, I say, to push us along to meet those. And then, once we have the coaching, then we have to coach our brains that we're happy with ourself too because we accomplished it, you know. So are you doing like a certain number of weeks for a session? Is it like four to six weeks or?

Speaker 2:

Well, people can buy packages of sessions, or they can buy one at a time, just paper, one at a time, or they can go through a program which is five or eight sessions, depending on which one they choose, and it's it's up to like. I really try and make it work for the clients and not just say, hey, you have to do six months with me and give me, you know, all these thousands dollars. I want to make it affordable. Everyone has a different budget and so I try and work with your person's needs.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha, that's really good to know. So, all right. So, like you know, for me I'm going to use me as an example. If I came to you because I'm getting to know you on this podcast and I said well, ever since 2000, maybe even before 2000, I grew up with chronic pain and it's so bad, it goes throughout my body. I have my ups, my downs, but I want to get these goals done and finding where my energy lies, but it also throughout nutrition. I can't eat because it gets me sick. How can I, like, maintain this healthy level? And that's something that I would come to you for and just give that all to you, and if we would work out that plan together, that's correct.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's where my limitations are. I am not a therapist or a personal trainer or a medical professional, so I could help you come up with a plan. If you said this is what my doctor suggested or these are my limitations, then I can help you figure out what works. I don't read labs. I know some health coaches have like functional medicine training on top of their coaching, which I would love to do but hasn't fit to my life yet. But no, for me it would be more about help, working alongside you and whatever health professionals you're working with to reach your goals.

Speaker 1:

That's cool, okay, I like that. Okay, yeah, because even if I'm coming and saying my doctor says more exercise, and you know healthy habits of you know my biggest thing too back, well, I stopped it altogether. I had trouble sleeping and that's something I really needed coaching to get off of a medication. That's what I needed coaching for. But yeah, so they put me on Ambien and I was on that for like five years.

Speaker 1:

The great thing about it you sleep, but the worst thing about it you sleepwalk. So it's something that, where it was getting my son was like Mom, I feel like I have to babysit you At night. You're trying to make food, you're making coffee, you're doing this, and I'll be the first one to admit it right here on here. It was terrible, but it was hard for me to say no to it too. So I had to talk about it with friends and then hear what my kiddos said about it and I was like enough is enough, I'm stronger than that medication. So I had to teach myself to sleep and I talked to another family doctor and I made the decision because once you hit delete on I didn't know this on Ambien and you start taking another sleeping aid to help. You can never go back to Ambien.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know that, and but I made that decision to get rid of it because of the sleepwalking part of it. So, yeah, you hear all those stories. I was like I'm going to make an Ambien podcast. But, yeah, definitely Now the empowerment that you give for your coaching. So can you kind of tell me what would I expect as a you know, client of yours, if I came to you and you know I was checking off, um the list that we created together, um the? Would there be like next steps, I guess, or accomplishments that I would need to reach?

Speaker 2:

No, everyone is on their own journey.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I celebrate every win and so with people. So you know, if someone is 250 pounds and they lose five pounds and they're excited, I will be so excited for them and I will. You know that requires that required some kind of real effort right on their part to lose that weight and so it's not the end goal. Like, sorry, I don't think about the end goal as much as I think about the journey, and that's one thing I really encourage my clients to is enjoy the process, enjoy the journey. Don't just look, oh well, I'm not 150 pounds yet so I can't really celebrate.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no. Just take one goal one step at a time. Enjoy the process, and it's going to look so different for everybody, right. And so when I have my programs that people go through, it's more about the education piece and they can expand on the nutrition education if they want, or they can just keep that to one, one session. But it's really client-led. People can work with me for a short, as long as they want, on one tiny, tiny goal at a time, or maybe they want to accomplish everything and just crush it and that's their personality. Great, you know it's up to them what they want to do.

Speaker 2:

I can make suggestions and I can encourage and I can educate, but it is really individualized and client-led oh, that is so cool.

Speaker 1:

That is so cool. I love that part like I know I would want to, and you do, all across the world, or is it just the United States, or I'm.

Speaker 2:

if we can, if we can hop on a conference call and get our time zones to match, then then I can work with someone, yeah definitely that's the fun part.

Speaker 1:

There's a. I want to have a chart out here for when I'm scheduling podcast. You know what time is it in England, what time is it in Australia? You know because I don't have that and that's the one question I always get you know. So trying to line those up. And thank God for Zoom. You know it's made technology great. We can talk to more people and help them out and everything. Before we jump on, I'm going to go into a mid little break.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, so, but yeah, definitely, so do you have. I guess you know I've started writing a book. Do you have any books? Guess you know I've started writing a book. Do you have any books out or podcasts?

Speaker 2:

I have a book that I am working on. I'm hoping to get it published this year, but I just started and I'm busy, so a little bit at a time right.

Speaker 2:

I just started a Facebook group for um, just to support women. I, I, you know. What's funny is some people have suggested why you start a Facebook group. I said no, I do not want to. I just know it's just too much work, I don't want to do it. And then I was praying the other day like what can I do to help support women? Start a Facebook group? This thought came to my mind like oh okay, fine, yeah, I, really, I. So I, really I am excited about it. I'm excited about the. It's designed to be a really supportive, encouraging environment where women who are just trying to get healthy mind, body, soul, spirit can help each other and encourage each other and celebrate wins. So I do not have a book yet, no, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 1:

I always had an idea Well, not even an idea, a goal that I wanted to write a book, and it was just about six weeks ago. It's time to write your book. I was like I'm asleep, why are you talking to me now? To write a book. And as the name of the book came to me and I was like, okay, I'm getting out of bed. What time is it? 5 am Now. I made it a goal.

Speaker 1:

Every morning, 5 am, I wake up and I write a chapter. And I am at chapter 15 right now. I'm almost done. I'm like, oh, my goodness. And I was like I got to find an editor very quickly. So that's the one thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was just like I'm going to get this out because I know it can help a lot of people. But I was like, really, am I going to become an author? So congratulations to you too, because the journey is fun, it is rewarding and man, talk about patience and staying focused. Yeah, so, other than that. But the Facebook group, that is very good. I find the groups to be very beneficial, and the more active the members are on the group, it strives, and it sounds like that's what it's going to be doing, because they'll be checking in every day to see what new things are out there. You know how can they talk on a certain topic? See, I told you there's bloopers here, a topic, not a topic, and you know, be interactive that way and everything. So that's good. I'm proud of that success and everything. And that's good. I'm I'm proud of that success and everything. So, and then do you write blogs? I know I have trouble with them. I'm just like AI can handle it now.

Speaker 2:

I haven't written a blog in many years, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's how I am. Yeah, I was just like that was the hardest thing, and back in the day I used to write for a magazine called Wedding Wishes Magazine and then I had an article featured in Texas. It was McKinney Living back in the day, but it was because I'm an event planner it was RSVP why bother? When that changed, nobody was RSVPing and Evite is that online? And they were getting started out. So it was like technology is coming in old school invitations but the RSVPs are going out, you know. So those different things and everything, things and everything Well, what, um, what advice would you give somebody who is watching the show today to help empower themselves and reach out to you and help them move forward?

Speaker 2:

Well, I would say a couple of different things. Um one, support's really important. Having accountability or support someone you share your journey with, be it a friend or a coach or whoever that is really really statistically, it's one of the. It's very key in reaching your goals. Another thing is choose one small goal to start. You know, if so often we feel overwhelmed and we're like we don't know where to start, and if you want to, for example, if you want to change your diet, and you just look at all the information, you know there's carnivore and there's paleo and there's Mediterranean, there's all these different diets, right, and then you don't know what to do and you just end up doing anything. Well, everyone knows vegetables are good. Well, except the people who carnivore, they might disagree with me. Vegetables are good. Sugar is bad. You know, very basic nutrition thing. So I would just say pick one thing.

Speaker 2:

And here's an example I work out in the evenings, that's. That's my time. I do not like to work out in the morning, so I don't. But I thought it'd be good to jump on the rebounder every morning just to kind of get the lymphatic system and everything moving, and the thought of jumping on the rebounder for 10 or 20 minutes just seemed way too daunting. But then I thought you know what? It takes me three minutes to brew my coffee. I can jump for three minutes, so that feels doable to me.

Speaker 2:

So I chose something that I can commit to, that's doable, and I've started doing that every morning. And it's so short, I might end up making it longer, but the point is I started small. I started with one place and then I can build on that. And mindset is so important Not beating ourselves up when we make a mistake, but just choosing to ask ourselves okay, what's the lesson here? I didn't reach my goal. I didn't do what I was hoping to accomplish. What can I learn from this and what can I do differently next time? And no one expects perfection and everybody started somewhere, and what I have to offer is still a value. I realized very quickly that I had two options I could sink or I could swim, and I had always just chosen to sink in the past and I said that's not an option anymore. It's not, and so I really had to change the way I thought about challenges, how I approach challenges, and that was really key. So find the support that you need. Start small, but just start somewhere.

Speaker 1:

See, that's yeah, definitely well said and have been the right mindset, definitely sinking or swimming. Oh, I remember I was just talking about this at a job interview. They asked for you know what was your strength? You know what is something that you had to do right away, that you never knew? And there was a company I went in and just said, are you guys hiring? And it was a rental company, family owned. They're like yes, and they just hired me on the spot, which is fine.

Speaker 1:

But, like my first day, they said we're not going to be there. We took a week vacation and I'm like what? And I remember being in there and I love the people I worked with, but they spoke Portuguese and I didn't know what I was doing. So here I am with a brand new job, no training yet that week and phone ringing and answered, and just I had to put my mindset like, okay, I'm going to have to do this, pretend it was my own company. How would I want this ran, you know? But as soon as they got back from vacation, they trained me.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I was glad I and I say I think it was there two to three years, I loved it, and then they get they sold their company. But yeah, it's just one of those things, and having that strong mentality going, I am going to do this and the will, I think, is what I'm looking for. That's always a good thing to have. So now, as far as finding you on social media, are you listed on Instagram and all that stuff? Tiktok, I don't know, there's a blue sky.

Speaker 2:

They have so many new ones now you can find everything on my website. There's a link to my Facebook and my Instagram there and I will link my Facebook group once my new computer comes in. My computer died two days ago and I can't edit my website, but anyway, it's hopeswhispersca. You can book a session there. You can just email me. There's a contact on a form on the webpage, so that's that's the best and easiest thing. Hopeswhispersca, you can find everything there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that name. I was like Hopes Whispers, I love it so. But yeah, oh my gosh, I hope we covered everything. Is there anything I was missing?

Speaker 2:

I will say two things. If that's okay, okay, yeah, it's okay to be weak and it's okay to sit down and cry, and it's okay to fall and to make mistakes. I think so often social media and everywhere else and people look to me oh, you're so strong and you're doing this and, yeah, I am doing well. But sometimes I just get battle weary and I just need to sit and cry and take a break and then stand back up and keep going. And I think so often. You know everyone shows their best side and people forget that. And the other thing that I will say is you were created with purpose, for a purpose, and if you try and show up as anything other than yourself, you rob the world of brilliance, of your brilliance and yourself of joy. So be authentically and unapologetically you, because that's the best person that you can be and you're needed as you are.

Speaker 1:

I love that, yeah, and you know, I wish there was a lot of companies saw that too, and people, because they hire you for who you are and everything and you're giving your best foot forward and that energy and the light of the world I mean. So, yeah, they need to hold on to that as well, because we will always go through different challenges in life. And you're right, it is okay to take a break and cry. I will admit, even with the podcast, I'm one person. I will do about 15 to 20 and be like I need to breathe. I just need to breathe. Everything's on a stop and I hate doing that because I'm getting so booked up. But it's what did they call it? Like writers have writer block Podcasts. We get burned out because we're interviewing so much and it's a lot of editing and getting it out there and producing it, so, but it's having. It's not a weakness. When you cry, you're learning more about yourself, so it's a gain sometimes too, so, but you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1:

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