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The Journey of an Entrepreneur | A Noble Conversation with Ahmad Abubakar
Ready to uncover the secrets of successful serial entrepreneurship? Today, we’re excited to have Ahmad Abubakar, also known as Oga Limateef, with us. As the founder and CEO of Limateef Group and the Make Life Better Foundation, Ahmad takes us on a fascinating journey through his diverse business ventures. From taking over a family fashion business to diving into event planning and logistics, his talent for multitasking and spotting opportunities has been key to his success.
In this episode, you'll gain valuable insights on mentorship, stepping outside your comfort zone, and the importance of continuous learning. Ahmad shares how the pandemic in 2020 became a turning point for him, showcasing his networking skills and entrepreneurial spirit. His stories of managing small events that grew into major gigs highlight how adaptability and resourcefulness have been his greatest assets. He also discusses the power of sharing ideas with like-minded individuals and balancing external advice with personal conviction to foster innovation.
We wrap up our conversation by exploring the vital role of entrepreneurship in nation-building. Ahmad explains how starting small and leveraging available resources can empower others and drive economic growth. Tune in and get inspired by Ahmad’s unwavering vision and commitment to making life better!
Okay. So today we will be having Ahmad Abubakar join us on the platform. Ahmad is otherwise known as Oga Limatif and he is the founder and CEO of Limatif Groups, or Limatif Group, and Make Life Better Foundation, otherwise known as MLB Foundation. So Limative Group is a holding company that has different subsidiaries and focused on you know clothing, logistics, event planning and even you know travel as well, and Make Life Better Foundation really is a non-governmental organization focused on helping provide people with the necessary skills for sustainable development. So today we'll be having a conversation with Ahmad on entrepreneurship, nation building and sustainable development. So I'm excited. I'm excited, let's go, let's go. I'm excited, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1:You're an entrepreneur you know that aims to impact different industries, whether it is clothing, home building, logistics, event planning. Why did?
Speaker 2:you choose this industry specifically? Okay, so for me, you know, as a serial entrepreneur right, I call myself a serial entrepreneur. I don't just call myself an entrepreneur, a serial entrepreneur, because I have a gift and I was able to identify the gift, which is being able to, you know, multitask. You know a lot of people say, oh, multitasking, you know you can't multitask. Know a lot of people said stay, oh, multitasking, you know you can't multitask. You know god has given me the ability whereby I'm being able to manage more than one thing at the same time, and I do it very well. So I started with fashion because, um, you know, it was just more like a heredity from my father. So I started with fashion. I came back to Abuja. I left my parents' house, I came back to Abuja to have my brand. I was doing it for quite a long time, let's say like a year or two, three, two years. Then, when I came to Abuja, just like I said, I now realize that I am in a city whereby there are a lot of opportunities out there. I am in a city whereby a lot of functions are being held in different aspects of businesses. Right, I'm in a city whereby we have a lot of people. We have a lot of building going on. We have a lot of construction, we have a lot of people moving in from one house to another, we have events, so many things and, being someone that is able to manage multiple things, I found it as an opportunity for me to venture to diversify my options, and this is like an advice to every entrepreneur out there. You need to diversify my options and this is like a advice to every entrepreneur out there is like you need to diversify your option in as much as you are, you have a niche. You need to have multiple things you know in order to flow your business and so many other things you know that would come. So after, you know, in the clothing business for a year or two, I started event planning and, yeah, the first event I planned was for David Rose when he came in to Abuja to launch a new restaurant. That was my first event that I planned. I just tried, I just gave it a try and then it came out. Well, you know people.
Speaker 2:After that, people started calling me from different angles like, oh yo, we heard you the one that did this. You supplied this barricade, you supplied that, and then I was like, oh yeah, that's true. And then that's how I started the mati event, planning for the logistics. So I realized that every end of the year, you see people parking up from one house to another. So you know, as an entrepreneur, there is a need for you to identify demand and there is a need for you to identify how to solve problems.
Speaker 2:So I saw it as an opportunity whereby people will start calling to us oh, I'm parking from one house, please, do you know someone that packing from one house? Please, do you know someone that has a truck? Or do you know someone that can help me pack my things out out from my old house to new house? Oh no, I have some goods that some may so may. Can you please bring them for me? Oh, I have an event and I want to pick some barricades from one location, kind of do you have someone that can help me? Things like this gave me I was able to identify such things, and then that was how I ventured into this and being if being someone that knows how to socialize with people, someone that knows how to build relationships with people.
Speaker 2:I was able to know people that own these trucks directly. When I speak to them. I want to start this and this is how it's going to be. This I want to operate and you know it became in my favor. This is where the logistics was bettered from. And then events right, I'm done with event logistics and um fashion, then we have uh fashion, then we have the massive event in my team logistics, I think this, that then okay, we don't, we have the massive homes right.
Speaker 2:I've always had passion for real estate, because I grew up in Niger and then, I think, one of the people that conquered real estate in Abuja from from 90 states which are modern shelter in Bram Alliu. You know our patron, you know our father, you know he has been an inspiration to me. So from that, that's where the birth of my, you know, real construction started from. Construction started from, although I started with furnitures, making furnitures, because I also realized that, you know as much as people are moving to new houses, people are needing new furnitures every day and I say it doesn't have community.
Speaker 2:Being a creative, I go meet these people, tell them that, oh, I can see you're moving out, I can design something for you for your new house. Give me the opportunity, I'll bring my artisans, bring it out well for you. That's how my you know homes business started. And then I've done, in love, you know, projects in the town, specifically renovation, interior decor, interior finishing. You know construction. So this is how you know, uh, this, so this is how you know. These subsidiaries under my mother company were embedded.
Speaker 2:But nonetheless, regardless of all these you know encounters that made me to venture into these businesses, as a businessman, as an entrepreneur, you will stick to his particular business, but you, there is a need for you to diversify your options. It's very important because when you are, when you diversify your options, other businesses can enhance your productivity, can generate more income to your company, can also save you from dangers. Let's say, for instance, you're having a problem in a business, in in a company, and then a deal came from b company, you can use that resources or the profit from this company to solve the problems of that company. You know, and being someone that loves to keep on going, like to keep on running, to keep in productive. That's another thing that pushed me to make sure that I put my hands in different businesses so as to, you know, make me uh, make me productive and make me get to know people, make me not just to be lazy, because whenever I'm idle I get depressed, that's a hundred. Whenever I'm not doing anything, I feel so depressed. So one thing again that, you know, made me diversify my options.
Speaker 1:Yes, so would you say that part of what moves you and part of what makes you so driven is to avoid idleness?
Speaker 2:because of yes, okay, yes, and being able to solve problems right. So when you become a resource person, when you become someone that people can rely on, you have a lot of opportunities in your hand, and I, I saw myself, I saw that as a gift that God has bestowed in me being someone that knows a lot of people, being someone that can solve problems, being someone that is effective, being someone that can make one too. So it's part of the trait of entrepreneurs, which is solving problems.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's why in my company slogan solving problem at its source no, I like that, I like that problems so okay.
Speaker 1:So it sounds like for you, the reason you were able to diversify into these industries is one I mean, as an serial entrepreneur, you want to make sure that you don't have all your eggs in one basket and then two, you also want to, um, make sure that, or at least you identified a need, where you identified where there was a problem and said, okay, I can put one and two together and solve this problem. So when did you realize that? Because you mentioned multitasking and the ability to build relationships as a gift that you have when did you realize that you had that gift?
Speaker 2:And how did you?
Speaker 1:realize it too.
Speaker 2:Okay. So in life, right, you can't always get it right. You can't just wake up today and say you want to be this person and you will not be shown or you will not be advised on how to do this or do that. I have a mentor. I don't play with mentorship, god knows he. You can see most of my stories. So I have people happy birthday, mentor happy. But you know, I have a lot of people that mentor me and when you go to this mentor to seek for their advice, to seek for their counseling, they always tell you that you know, try and make sure you do multiple things because of x, y and z.
Speaker 2:But identifying that gift was I. I saw myself being a person that's easily acknowledged people, or being someone that people easily easily acknowledge right, and naturally, I'm good at networking. I can just meet you. I wouldn't, I wouldn't know who you are, but like I can just network myself around you and something can come out of it. So I realized this gift while I was, while I, while I left my comfort zone. Yes, this is when I realized that, oh, this is my gift what year was that?
Speaker 2:2020 corona period, when I left my father's house. That was when I realized a lot of my gift and a lot of my potential, because I was in the streets, no father in the town, no mom. I feed myself, I look what. I have to look for a business to sustain myself. I have to look for deals, I have to look for commission. These are the times that made me so in love a lot of my gifts, because if I was still in my comfort zone or if I was still in my father's house, probably I might not have been able to identify this gift, even though I would, but not as quick as I was when I left my comfort zone. So, first of all, you need to leave your comfort zone, because it gives you the ability to think, to refresh, to just start life all over. And reading books, then having a mentor these are the three key things that helped me in identifying this special gift that God has bestowed on me.
Speaker 1:So reading books, mentorship and leaving your comfort zone. So all these three things helped push you to be the serial entrepreneur that you are now. I want to touch on something that you mentioned. You talked about limitive event planning and how you started. You know, the first thing you did was to plan an event for Dewey Do right.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So walk me through that process of going from. You know, because I think you mentioned you had helped him with finding a hairstylist in Morocco. I saw one of your interviews that you did. How did that happen? And then how did you go from that to now you're planning an event for UBO.
Speaker 2:So that's my friend. Right Before I planned the first event, I once planned a mini event, you know for like a naming ceremony whereby I supply what they call it, what do they call it? Canopies and all but this game. The first ever event was I used to supply barricades to 345. So luckily I think they had Grona Boy Whiskey and Davidou for a show for three consecutive days by play. So I think the first person will give you and and then our uses. I usually supplied and by kid. I supplied them by kids, you know, through the events. So after the event, the people that own the lights out now reached out to me and said oh, we are doing light out opening and we want barricades.
Speaker 2:I said, okay, that's fine. And then I saw, like, have you guys not seen any events you were planning processing? No, I was like, oh, what can I do? Because one thing about me is I don't like admitting myself to things. I love, like exploring other opportunities. They say, oh, we have this event, we need this, we need that. Okay, I can supply it, God being so kind, being someone that knows people good contact, I was able to put phone calls and get people to reach their demand and that's how I got to plan the event for the restaurant.
Speaker 2:What's in the name of the coming to launch the restaurant?
Speaker 1:yes, okay, so that was the. That was the event. So what? How did you get from morocco? Like the whole hairstylist in morocco?
Speaker 2:to to doing that I was in school I said I'm serious. You know I'm done with school, but I'm not. I'm still in school. I was in abuse area being my diploma then our. By then, by that time, the massive group has been bread head, so I I was just all about solving problems, I remember. I used to go to Kaduna from Zagaya every Friday because I hated the school. I didn't like it because of the asoom.
Speaker 2:I was just saying because I was studying, so I took a. There was a weekend whereby I came to Kaduna Before I prayed in the morning I just saw a post of David Ozaio. He's in Morocco and he's a hair stylist. Please, anyone that has someone that can style him should come, should contact Tunji. He's causing. Who is my? You know my chairman, you know my very good friend as well.
Speaker 2:We became friends afterwards and then I saw I was like, okay, I have a friend that is in Morocco and we hail from the same states. And I called him. I was like yo, please, do you know, I need this, I need that. Do you know any hairstylist? I know I'm not even in Morocco, but I talked to one of my friends and then I called a friend of the magic group and then I was like yo, this is the mati, please, please. You know I need an assad to send to the video. He needs an hairstylist for his friend's wedding. Okay, that's fine, I know someone. He sends me his number.
Speaker 2:And then I contacted the hairstylist. I told him okay, this is it, this is the business. And then this is where I'm going to start. This is the address can you use? Like, yes, I can please, but he wasn't in the same city with david so he took like an hour trip to get there. Before david woke up he was there, he met tunji and then tunji, you know, introduced him and when he came and yeah, afterwards he gave them the all of them and he was, I was paid, then I paid him.
Speaker 2:So after the whole babbing thing again, they were now like, ah, they didn't have to do I have another female friend in morocco I have friends everywhere.
Speaker 1:I have friends in the world.
Speaker 2:I just called how are you? Can you cook? They said they want a good seat. We did everything, and I think that was a period when he went and donated money to him for his birthday, I think after yeah, so, and then I spoke to her, she did it, we paid the money. She took the phone and we got paid and that's how we solved this problem. Easily like I wasn't there, I didn't even know, never had a visa before, so I didn't even know how it happened. But with the power of influence, knowing people, networking, I was able to solve this problem within a day.
Speaker 2:And that's how we tied the journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think what you did there is a true example of a resourceful entrepreneur, because it's not like you could even directly do anything about it, but you're like, ah, I know this person, I know that person, yeah, and I think it showed that you were not going to just say, oh, I don't know, I can't do it or does it, but you're like, who do? I know that I can say, okay, this person. So, as much as you're an entrepreneur, you also build connections between people too, and that's something I've seen. So you've had Limative Group for correct me, if I'm wrong about four years now, since 2020.
Speaker 1:Yes, and a lot of people have ideas. They said, oh, I want to build this, I want to build that, I want to build that, I want to build this, but very few people are able to actually execute on the thing that they said they want to build. You seem to have executed. How did you get from idea oh, I have this idea for this, I have this idea for this, I have this idea for that to executing? Because, at least from what I've seen, it seems like as soon as you have an idea, you execute. As soon as you have an idea, you execute. Is that is that. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is that how it usually happens?
Speaker 2:yes, but okay, okay, okay they said um luck is preparedness meeting opportunity, and there's another saying that says let opportunity meet idea. So it's a very simple thing, right? I mean it may sound simple to me, but I mean it might not be simple to other people when you have an idea. Okay, before I say that we have different type of thinkers, we have shared thinkers, we have selfish thinkers, we have deep thinkers, we have proactive thinkers and many other thinkers which I read from the book, right, so I happen to be a shared thinker. Whenever I think about something, I share to the people that I know that our thinking is on the same level.
Speaker 1:So when I share that thinking.
Speaker 2:I get advice and so many knowledge on proper way of doing or executing or bringing that thoughts to vision or to existence. So when you have an idea, the first step is analyzing the idea and you share the idea to people that are worth sharing, to. Whatever their outcome is, whatever their advice is, then that's what you use. This is the technique that I use, which is having a mentor, having people that you look up to. So what?
Speaker 1:happens if you. Let's say what happens if you have an idea and you think this is the best idea in the world and you're like how come nobody has thought of this thing? But then you talk to somebody and you share your thoughts with somebody and they don't see it the same way. How do you determine? Okay, this is when to follow the advice that this person is providing, and this is when to stick to what I've decided to do in.
Speaker 2:As much as you share your idea to people, your opinion doesn't matter at some point. All you need is your advice, right, and that's what you need. It all bounces to you. A lot of people that I shared my idea to today are wondering how I've been able to bring this idea, even though they doubted it or they might have had some criticism from that idea or something. When you have the idea, you keep it to yourself. When you keep it to yourself, you share it with the person. By sharing with that person doesn't mean whatsoever. This person will say it's what you have in mind. No, it's your mind.
Speaker 2:They say begin with the end in mind. The fact that God has given you the wisdom. To have that idea is a blessing.
Speaker 2:It's now your choice to work on that idea or not. It doesn't matter if you don't have the resources to bring that idea to vision. We can still bring that idea to existing, which is by saying start small things, start great things in a small way, start great things in a small way. That's the same technique that I use when I had the idea I want to have a company, but I know I don't have the resources. Then you can live with the opportunities or the advantages you have around you. It might be you have friends that might have the capital and you collaborate, or it might be there is someone that might have the capital and you collaborate, or it might be there's someone that's already doing that same thing. You go through that person to get some certain things that you need.
Speaker 2:Then when you do it, you're able to get some resources out of it. Then you can now bring your own idea into existence.
Speaker 1:I don't know, if I was able to answer a question so so you have the idea you share with people. Get the advice right, take what you want to. Take the right people. Okay, how do you identify the right people?
Speaker 2:it's you, it's you, it's you. It all bounces back to you and the people around you. I'm I was lucky to have had good friends. I was lucky to forgot to have been able to connect me with good people, alhamdulillah, which I'm really proud of knowing, to today, till tomorrow, till I die. So it depends on the people that you know. That's why, like before you do anything, your relationship with people is the most important. You know how you treat people. You know how you go about people are studying people before you dive into something with them. It's also what's at, but it all bounces back to you. But there are good people out there, trust me.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, let's look at nation building. So, as an entrepreneur, serial entrepreneur, what role do you see entrepreneurship playing as it relates to the building of a nation or equipping its citizens to be productive?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I always say this to people that I'm having or people that I usually have insightful conversations with that. Our generation are better than the ones that came before us, whereby we were lucky enough to have been able to identify or to have been able to start business, entrepreneurship, politics at such a very young age, compared to our parents.
Speaker 2:When you look at who are the leaders today? People in their 50s, people in their 40s, 60s, 70s, and when you look at them us, ours like maybe 13% or 5% of people that are of our age, maybe from 20 to 30, the only few. So, as an entrepreneur, we build the nation by our day-to-day activities no matter how small, your business is so far as the business is operating and it's functioning.
Speaker 2:You are solving a problem and you are bringing a nation. Because you can not do everything, no matter what business even a lot more doesn't run business alone. You have to look for expertise in that field or you have to look for a team. And this team, who are they? They are citizens. Right, these, these citizens, might happen to be jobless before. You might have looked for them, right, and then, when you approach them, you put them on.
Speaker 2:You have built a nation whereby you are employing people. You know you are uh, you know promoting something. You know you are bringing people together. You know you are reducing the crime rates of robbery, thuggery, stealing and so many things. So we entrepreneurs honestly, we really have a big role to play in nation building, as much as you may think, and the best way to do it is by putting people on, giving people opportunities, no matter how small your business might be. Like I said, give other people room to explore, give other people room to serve you. Give other people room to give you, to provide you a service. That is the role of entrepreneurs in relation to dividend.
Speaker 1:I like that because I think you start a business right, and when you're starting the business early on, there's not as much, depending on what kind of business you're in.
Speaker 1:There's not as much capital initially, what kind of business you're in, there's not as much capital initially, and so you may not even have enough to pay everybody. But you can say look, you know, this is what I'm trying to do. If you believe in the vision, come on, you know, join eventually. We'll get to that point where we're able to pay you, you know, to your satisfaction and based on the level of work you're producing. But by doing that with people and by bringing people on, what you're doing is you're empowering them with skills or the ability to use the skills that they already have, um in service to the business, which will in turn generate, you know, or impact, the gdp and the productivity of the country. So I like that. And you talked about how our generation is. Or we have more people that are younger in our age range, age group, that are involved in public service now than in the past. So, according to your assessment, how do you see that going over the next 10, 20 years in terms of youth involvement in nation building?
Speaker 2:okay. So in as much as we have these people that are gifted or we have, we started this early. At the same time time some, you see, now the world is moving crazily, like very fast, because you're making money from tech, making money from crypto. You know there are quicker ways of getting money right. But, honestly, for me at the same time is that I realize that most of our youth are quick to wanting to see results, whereby when you start a business now, you expect the result to yield as soon as possible, because you have seen it works for Mr A, you also want the same thing to work for you. I think we need to take that mentality out in our generation because it's killing us, really killing us, and moving in such direction. For the entrepreneurs you know of our eight bracket, from now to 10 years, I feel like we are going to provide much more billionaires, more than our parents, because, even when you check the analysis now, we have billionaires at the age of 20. We have billionaires at the age of 20,. We have billionaires at the age of 15, we have billionaires at the age of 25, we have billionaires at the
Speaker 2:age of, but there might be few. What If there is prosperity? Even 10 to 15 years from now, we'll have lots of billionaires in the country or in the nation. I'm very optimistic about it because the world has moved beyond our imagination, which has advanced the way of getting money youtube, social media, tick tock, all these things fintech, drop shipping, crypto, forex. You know so many things. Even the fashion now is a big business. The tech is a big business now. So, honestly, there's a prosperity, but unless if we continue to be patient, and that's what I'm going to give back.
Speaker 2:Some people, or some, maybe youth or people in our market are quick to see results and some have been driven by peer pressure. That's why you see them indulging in such negative acts just to see that. Okay, they are also at the top. If you really want to play the game, you have to play the long term game than the short term game. Bring out the plan five year plan, 10 year plan. If you know this, one step at a time, we are going to get to the bottom and I believe very many that there is prosperity for yeah, yeah, because I mean even with you, like you said, youtube different, the different avenues of making revenue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now and um, and it's not just relying on traditional, like employment. That is good and that plays its role too yeah and contributing to an economy, um, at the same time.
Speaker 1:Like you see, I think it goes back to what you were saying about diversification. So it's like now you're diversifying your ways of earning income, whether it's through, like you said, um, podcasting, youtube, social media, different things. If you have a business, yes, in fact, you could use social media as a tool to promote that business too. So, um, okay, sustainable development so you started an organization called make life better, so mlb foundation, um, and it's focused on providing opportunities for people to develop necessary skills for sustainable development. So, from your perspective, what top three necessary skills would positively impact sustainable development on a national level the most?
Speaker 2:Hmm, skill acquisition Right, skill acquisition, ict and agriculture. These are the three key things when we talk about skill acquisition. Every day, there are problems and they need to be solved.
Speaker 2:Today, you have people that want to go out and then you find out that maybe one of their clothes is torn or something, and then they need a tailor that will just do a quick one for them, or they need a shoe to be repaired, or someone needs like uh, he needs like something quick, you understand? Like these are the things that drives our economy and these are the things that adds to nation building and sustainable goals. Skill acquisition encompasses a lot. K3 fashion cobbling I see uh, cobbling, uh, what they call it. Um, you know, they are a lot, yeah, they are a lot. The skills are a lot and if we indulge our citizens in and if we indulge our citizens in such things like skill acquisition, it will really drive our economy and it's going to contribute in nation building.
Speaker 2:Agriculture. Nigeria is really blessed with good weather, you know, with lands that are eligible for farming, you know, and when you look at countries like China, they are also blessed with the same thing and that's why they are leveraging on and that's what they feed on themselves. They don't even depend on other countries to get, you know, things for their nation. They do, they farm it and they consume it. Right, nigeria also has the same potential. So agriculture would really really contribute in nation building and sustainable development goals. Then you talk about ict. Like I said, the world is advancing technologically. We have people bringing in ideas, inventing so many things, things like AI. We have things like web designing, we have things like coding. We have so many things. So things like this and, as the world is advancing, people are moving with the trend. People need websites for their businesses.
Speaker 2:People need websites for their cryptocurrencies people yeah, website for their cryptocurrencies. People need website to order food. People need website for this for that. So the world is advanced. People even need website for ict for portfolio right. So, yeah, these are the things that I really believe in. Not only believe in, I've seen it happening and making impact and that's why I have to that part in for my foundation. So I think agriculture and skill acquisition are driving force for economic growth, sustainable goals and nation building.
Speaker 1:Okay, and is the foundation? Like, what regions or what like, like, where is it currently or where have you like decided to start in terms of okay, this is, let's focus on this particular area first and then eventually will expand to other areas they say, love starts.
Speaker 2:Charity begins from home.
Speaker 2:Right so as abseil from niger yeah we initially accepted the foundation by giving food, you know, to the less privileged, but like we saw that it's not sustainable. Not that we can't continue, but are you a difference? By giving someone food? It's better to teach someone how to catch a fish than to give him a fish. When you teach someone how to catch a fish, the person will definitely eat for the rest of his life. So we have focused, to start, with ICT. Now, when we are done with the ICT, we are trying to dominate the ICT in the three geopolitical zones in NENDA, which are zone A, zone B and zone C NENDA East, south and North. So once we are done with this, we are going to move to the skill acquisition part, which is where we are having a collaboration with the small and medium enterprise smith and you know, because that's what they are known for and after we're done with that, we're going to move to agriculture. It's a face. We are trying to achieve it one by one, but for now, our niche, our focus, is ICT.
Speaker 1:ICT. Okay, Okay, and you said the north, east and south zones in Niger State. That's the area that you're focusing on now for now, to develop those skills. Okay, Okay, my brother, you have been very generous with your time and I really, really appreciate it. Thank you. Before we let you go, where do you see Limative Group in the next 10 years?
Speaker 2:My brother. I'm building a world-class conglomerate company.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like it, I like it.
Speaker 2:So we are building a world-class conglomerate company. I see LeMathie to be in the forefront of companies like Bois, companies like Dangote, companies like Manga, companies like Wando, companies, like Shell, because in our own way, we sign based on the services that we provide in Shabra. In Shabra, I'm really optimistic about our vision, about our goals and our aims and objectives. We just want to solve problems. We just want to make sure that we make living for humans sustainable, easy and stress-free.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, no, that's that's. That's inspiring, I think, you know, especially as someone who is, like we're in the same like age group, I think it's inspiring seeing someone with that vision to build something that is big and something that will last beyond their time. Here, you know, to provide the best services possible.
Speaker 2:It's due to the generational world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm willing to take the risk I like that I have to take the risk. Yeah, I have to, I have to.
Speaker 2:That's the goal. The goal is to pass it on to generations to come, generations to come.
Speaker 1:I like that, my brother, where can our audience find you and your work?
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