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I have lots of"},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1717.81,"endTime":1720.36,"body":"purposes, but it's one of my big"},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1717.81,"endTime":1720.36,"body":"purposes,"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1720.39,"endTime":1722.67,"body":"yeah, yeah, it's"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1720.39,"endTime":1722.67,"body":"beautiful."},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1723.18,"endTime":1726.15,"body":"Well, I love hearing your"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1723.18,"endTime":1726.15,"body":"journey, and I know my listeners"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1726.21,"endTime":1730.2,"body":"enjoyed this as well, and I hope"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1726.21,"endTime":1730.2,"body":"some of them reach out to you."},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1730.5,"endTime":1733.59,"body":"I'm definitely going to follow"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1730.5,"endTime":1733.59,"body":"you. You have to check out her"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1733.59,"endTime":1736.08,"body":"blog post, because they're"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1733.59,"endTime":1736.08,"body":"amazing. There's one that I'll"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1736.08,"endTime":1739.89,"body":"give a shout out to about asking"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1736.08,"endTime":1739.89,"body":"for help, asking for three"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1739.89,"endTime":1744.45,"body":"things each day. So I want all"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1739.89,"endTime":1744.45,"body":"my listeners to go to your"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1744.45,"endTime":1746.73,"body":"website, feminine rebellion.com"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1747.09,"endTime":1752.1,"body":"and please, if you read nothing,"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1747.09,"endTime":1752.1,"body":"read that one, because I think"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1752.1,"endTime":1754.74,"body":"women really do need to get"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1752.1,"endTime":1754.74,"body":"better about asking for what"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1754.74,"endTime":1757.98,"body":"they want, and it was just such"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1754.74,"endTime":1757.98,"body":"a beautifully written blog post."},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1758.37,"endTime":1761.01,"body":"So thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1758.37,"endTime":1761.01,"body":"spending your time with us"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1761.01,"endTime":1765.48,"body":"today, I really enjoyed talking"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1761.01,"endTime":1765.48,"body":"with you. So much. Me too."},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1765.63,"endTime":1768.42,"body":"Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1765.63,"endTime":1768.42,"body":"for having me. Sara, absolutely,"},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1768.42,"endTime":1769.89,"body":"and thanks for listening"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1771.57,"endTime":1773.19,"body":"Till next time,"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1771.57,"endTime":1773.19,"body":"ladies,"},{"speaker":"Natty Frasca","startTime":1773.76,"endTime":1774.33,"body":"bye."}]}