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It's different"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1674.7,"endTime":1677.34,"body":"when you invite them on the"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1674.7,"endTime":1677.34,"body":"podcast, versus someone that you"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1677.34,"endTime":1679.68,"body":"just know professionally,"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1677.34,"endTime":1679.68,"body":"because they send you"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1679.68,"endTime":1683.12,"body":"everything. And more like, I get"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1679.68,"endTime":1683.12,"body":"bios, I get pictures. I get"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1683.12,"endTime":1685.82,"body":"pictures of, like, five"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1683.12,"endTime":1685.82,"body":"pictures. I'm like, I only need"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1685.82,"endTime":1688.46,"body":"one. 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But I still need your"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1691.34,"endTime":1692.66,"body":"bio, and I"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1692.66,"endTime":1695.9,"body":"will send you"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1692.66,"endTime":1695.9,"body":"all of my things, I promise."},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1698.9,"endTime":1702.16,"body":"Well, it's been"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1698.9,"endTime":1702.16,"body":"great having you on the show, I"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1702.16,"endTime":1707.74,"body":"am going to get a koala teddy"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1702.16,"endTime":1707.74,"body":"bear cuddle that. I love that,"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1707.74,"endTime":1711.82,"body":"and I love animals, so that's a"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1707.74,"endTime":1711.82,"body":"great visual for me. And I hope"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1711.82,"endTime":1714.7,"body":"that some of our guests contact"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1711.82,"endTime":1714.7,"body":"your organization, because there"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1714.7,"endTime":1718.12,"body":"seems to be so much value in"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1714.7,"endTime":1718.12,"body":"what you do. Yeah, there. There"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1718.12,"endTime":1718.78,"body":"really is"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1718.84,"endTime":1720.84,"body":"so thank you"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1718.84,"endTime":1720.84,"body":"so much, Sarah, it was wonderful"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1720.84,"endTime":1725.4,"body":"to see your face. I miss you,"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1720.84,"endTime":1725.4,"body":"and I'm honored to have shared"},{"speaker":"Amanda Fuenzalida","startTime":1725.4,"endTime":1726.3,"body":"this space with you."},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1726.72,"endTime":1728.88,"body":"Yeah, it was"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1726.72,"endTime":1728.88,"body":"great. Thank you, Amanda, so"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1728.88,"endTime":1732.48,"body":"much. Yeah, and I will see you"},{"speaker":"Sara Poldmae","startTime":1728.88,"endTime":1732.48,"body":"next week. You"}]}