Was that Mickey Mouse?

Season 3 Episode 44 Two Sellers at the Table.  Ethan Sellers joins Chris and Chad to talk about his recent State Bowling title and other perspectives from a younger view.  

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Well.

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Deep subject.

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Hopefully it could be.

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So I guess. You've never heard that? Haven't listened for when someone says well and you say deep subject, the rest of it is for a shallow mind.

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Dumb dead jokes. Alright, shall we kick this thing off?

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Should we make uh him do the aha?

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Do you think he can? Probably not.

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My voice would probably crack pretty bad. That'd make it better.

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That'll make it even better. And if it's really good, we'll keep it. I'll just dub it back in, and then we'll just never I'll just hit the opening and be part of the opening. So get deep. You ready?

SPEAKER_02 0:52

I suppose.

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Kick tires like the fires. Welcome to Heatree to Grimes, where friends come together to share their love of life, creativity, and everything in between.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

That was a little bit like Mickey Mouse. It's so bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

I wasn't gonna go there, but it'd be so bad. So uh what is that? Was it was he the original one with the the pirate or on the shipwheel? Something like it was now that you say that, it was kind of Mickey Mouse, but so um two of the fellas and uh a young fella at the table. Uh we're doing this a little early because we've got a special guest that we talked about having on, and he's like busy or something, so uh I am gonna leave it to his father to introduce him.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

So uh special guest today is my son Ethan. Hello. Currently a junior in high school. We like to call him Champ.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Champ? Is that is that his that's his call sign? Next time I see him at work, I'll be like, yo, champ, where do I find this? I almost had to come find him today. So well, before we get going, it is St. Patty's weekend. When is actually St. Patrick's Day? Is it Monday?

SPEAKER_04 2:32

Monday, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

So um we uh Ethan is drinking green can of Mountain Dew, so that'll suffice. Um, you know, our great planning. We had some some great Irish whiskey here. Not, but I have it on good authority that old granddad was Irish. Somebody's gonna yell into the radio and tell me I'm a liar now. But I was digging through looking for some stuff, Chad, and I found um this mixology and craft whiskey set that I don't remember where we got it from.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

I think that was that the one we got from Mike.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

Might be from Mike. That might be. I don't remember, and I feel terrible that I don't remember. Yes, I think it is Mike.

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I'm almost positive.

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I I had it narrowed down to Annie, Forrest, or Mike. And now that I think about it, Forrest gave us Gary favorite glasses, and Annie gave us the smoker. So, but uh, I don't know if there's anything good in there for on these whiskey cards, but I did uh throw the um like we're truly gonna have some old granddad on the rocks because they are uh as you hear them.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

It's just some uh drink recipes.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Oh, anything good? Probably how many how many rocks would you like?

SPEAKER_04 4:03

Oh better take at least a couple.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

So I I'm guessing these are granite, maybe most likely. So, but I threw them in the freezer. I twisted it, I should have pulled straight.

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So back in the olden days, they would take rocks out of the cold stream and put it in their drink.

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They would. The only thing we're not gonna get is this isn't gonna water us down, so good thing uh champ over there's got his license to drive you home. So okay. So we are we're at least, you know, having something for the uh the holiday. How's that go? Uh everybody's Irish on St. Patty's, and then two months later everybody's Mexican on Cinco de Mayo.

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So well, we are a country of many different we are.

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We we are a cup country of many cultures, which is a good thing. So, anyways, I gotta get my mic adjusted here, so there's gonna be some moving around. I was uh reviewing old GoPro footage that I didn't even know what was on that SD card, and I found some stuff. I sent a few little uh you know, the the cliche camera phone, videoing, computer, playing YouTube or uh GoPro footage, but uh I sent one to to Ricky. It was him coming up and this is all footage that Chad recorded, so he was you know one of our camera guys for core lot uh two years ago now. That would have been core 24 because we were at Richie's. And uh some very some very good camera work. Some uh you must have bumped the recorder and recorded your toes. It could be. But a couple of those caught some it was the video was your toes, but the audio was like somebody on the mic talking about I had kissed a tree with a roll bar or something. Yeah. A couple of those. So I had to keep a couple of those, but uh I lost my train of thought, Ethan. Where was I going with that?

SPEAKER_03 6:21

No idea.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Gone. It'll come back to me. So oh yeah, see, it came back. Had to give me a second. I'm a little slow today. Uh so I sent one to Ricky, was you had filmed him coming up a hill, and uh started with the meme of uh whatever that I think it's a Pixar movie, the little squirrel that's always looking for his nut. Oh, Ice Age. Ice Age, okay. You know, because he's sniffing, so it's just his nose sniffing. And I'm like, who's who's cooking the hot dogs? Because remember that that was when we met Ricky. Yep. And the first and he was still on propane, so everywhere he drove, it smelled like somebody was barbecuing, like somebody was grilling. And uh so all weekend we were always like, who's cooking hot dogs? So I had a I had talked to him for a while today. We talked about some YouTube stuff and and uh upcoming events that we have foreshadowed on the Patreon. If you want to know more about pay, if you want to know more about some of the places the fellows are gonna be this summer, you need to uh go join the Patreon. And uh yeah, we gotta tip these down so I get a little okay. So the two of the other guys aren't here. Uh they are off uh because we could have impromptu said, hey, we're gonna record tonight.

SPEAKER_04 7:47

Say Geyer might make it later. He's got some other things.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

He'll show up on Geyer time, so as always. But uh Court had some uh forget what he said he was doing.

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He told me the other day when date night or something.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Might be date night or something. I know it was something with Kelly. So uh which they just spent a a week in Arizona. You'd think he'd want to hang out with us, but she's obviously better looking than us.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

I'm guessing he didn't have a choice in the matter.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Oh, uh I'm sure he did. She's not really one. I actually think they were um going one of his longtime high school friends. They were gonna they had plans to hang out or something, so um, which I mean we don't normally record on Saturday night, so but here we are. Enough of the uh the rambling. What'd you just do, Ethan?

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Uh me and my team won the class 1A state championship for bowling.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

So I know very little about bowling. I'm sure there's lots of listeners that do know a lot about bowling, but um what's a how long's the season? I guess I'm gonna try to come up with a few questions here that I was curious about. How long's the season?

SPEAKER_02 9:01

We started practicing in November. Meets started early December, I think, and then finished up at the end of February.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

And how many meets?

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Twelve, I think.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Okay, so right so similar length in season to lake wrestling.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Um and all over the state, or just mostly just eastern Iowa, fairly local, fairly local. Most I say you you bowl a lot at the local bowling alley. Yep, right, and that was where championship was.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

No, no, championship was in Waterloo. Or state qualifiers was in town.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

State qualifiers was in town. Okay, I knew there was some because I knew old dad had to like run him back and forth a couple times to to watch a bowl. And but then is there also individual or is it just team?

SPEAKER_02 9:52

I qualified individually, but I didn't really do that good. I only shot a 602 three-game series, so three game series, so three games.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Perfect score is 300, and you shot 602 for three. That's better than I could have done. Even if I had the bumpers.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

To make the cut for brackets, I would have needed a hundred more pins.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

Okay. But you qualified. I qualified. So technically you're a state qualifier, individual, and as a team. And then first round, you were how many how many qualify?

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Four from each sector, so and there's eight sectors, so 32.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

So 30 out of 32, you're 27th. That's still not bad. You weren't you weren't last.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

I wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

So it's not bad. Nothing is that's no slouch, and then I bet ballpark figure. How many individuals bowl in high school bowling in Iowa?

SPEAKER_02 10:55

I don't know. Probably 200-ish, maybe so you're I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

As an individual, you're 27th out of 200.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

That's pretty respectable. Yeah, there'd there'd be at least 300. Okay, probably at least. On varsity.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

So I know bowling at West Delaware was fairly new. What five years?

SPEAKER_04 11:19

Uh it's been going since what oh three, four. Oh, that long. It became a club sport around there. Okay, so it was a club sport first and then it was sanctioned somewhere around. I think 2015. 1015, something like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

I knew it was one of the newer high school sports, or at least it's getting attention more, which is good because I mean there's not everybody can be a wrestler or basketball player or or wants to be, you know. Um, but you played basketball like junior high, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:50

I played through middle school.

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Through middle school, and just decided high school wasn't gonna be your thing.

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I knew by sixth grade that I wasn't playing basketball in high school. I was gonna bowl.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

It's called being focused and know what what you want to do. That's awesome. Um, how many bowlers on the high school team?

SPEAKER_02 12:12

On one varsity team, there's six bowlers, and one usually sits when they do baker games.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

So but as a whole team, the West Diller team as a whole, how many how many guys, how many?

SPEAKER_02 12:25

We had 17 out.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

17?

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

That's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

It's not terrible.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

I mean, that's that's more than there was girls' basketball players this year.

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Yeah. So only had one senior on the varsity team. So the ceiling's pretty high for next year.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

So the the other the other five were juniors?

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Uh or three were juniors, two were freshmen.

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So got some depth. It's not gonna be uh one and none.

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So next year we arguably get better.

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And try to repeat. So you could have two state titles when you graduate next year.

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That is the goal.

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That's a good goal to have.

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So that would be West Delaware's second time repeating in state championships.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Really? What years did they do it prior?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

2017, 2018.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Okay. I and I'll be honest, I didn't realize there was that that there was a lot. I knew that there were some kids that bowled. Um you know, all the way back to Chapman. But I didn't realize that there it was as big as it is, or that, you know, sanctioned school till probably a year or two before you started. Um I guess whenever they the old before the bowling alley got redone, they had that big lit lit up hawk that they had done for the is probably when I realize got I I knew that there was, you know, high school bowling at local levels. So but I I always think it's good when there's more than just your standard sports that everybody thinks is high school sports, that there's all the other stuff out there for the kids, it's more opportunities. Um that the only sport you play at school?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Uh I also do baseball and mostly caught cross country, other than last year. I'm gonna go out again this year.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Are you good? When did you go out last year?

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Didn't want to. You got lazy? That and I wanted to focus on bowling more.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Say being as the alley was closed up until about the time it was what, October when they opened basically? Probably.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

I say they opened just before the season, the bowling season started.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

He was just trying to give himself as much of a chance to get back into the I get that.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

You're you know, the focus. And don't do track though.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

No.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

So much care for track. It's a lot of sitting.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Well, and track and baseball probably overlap a lot because you probably are you already sure? Because you're a pitcher.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

Yep. We started open gyms at the beginning of February.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

But I just started going about two weeks ago since bowling got done.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Since bowling was so physicality-wise, what's the difference? What what's the main things you focus on with bowling?

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Um, well, at least a state this year especially, Coach tried to get our endurance up a little bit more, so we did some laps around uh upstairs. Sure. Kind of get us more in shape a little bit. Um if we miss 10 pins, they do ball squats. We hold our balls, which are balls.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Yes, we're 12-year-olds at this table, so it's fine. You can laugh.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Is it big balls or little balls? 14 and 15 pound balls. Big balls. Do squats with those, and then sometimes walls with wall sits, and then especially for me as a one-hander, arm strength.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

So that that was okay. That was I was gonna is any kind of lifting or anything, because there's certain muscles you use throwing a bowling ball that you don't normally use.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Yeah, so they don't require lifting. Some people do on their own time. Yeah. I don't.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

I don't.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Your arm's probably pretty strong from being a uh pitcher, too, though.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

The muscle imbalance from my right to my left is fairly significant from all the throwing and rolling that I do with my right arm.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

You gonna take that slow pitch, or you're just gonna let that one go by? Let that one go. Yeah, this is the this isn't the Patreon. I'll let it go too. So we will let our um our listeners form their own jokes. Did you fall apart over there?

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Uh yep, the chair's broken.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Yeah, we got it. Our carpenter's terrible. So slam it back together, it's fine.

unknown 16:59

Lean back a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

The the lifetime budget for chair repair got got used up on the that chair over there, so we can't repair our chairs anymore. Right, Chad? Yep. You say, hey, you want to fix a chair? He runs the other way now. Yeah. Thanks, JB. The captain's chair just you probably knew about it before I knew about it.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

I did not.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Learned about it on the episode.

unknown 17:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

I stopped after season one, though.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Why?

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Because I didn't have a welding class to listen to anymore.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Oh. And it's not a it's not a long commute to school.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

It's not.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

So not a lot of bus rides for to go bowling.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

Say Muscatine, I think, was their furthest one. Yeah, that's a little bit a haul, but so when did you first bowl? Was it like your fifth birthday or something?

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Probably. I always had a whole bunch of birthday parties out there for bowling. And then I joined Monday Night League in kindergarten. It was just for little kids.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

They had a Monday night kids league?

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Yep. I still have it.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

That's good.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Do you go help with it? I do.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Yeah. And then So what is it about bowling? What what about bowling just clicked and you said, I want to do this more?

SPEAKER_02 18:26

I don't know. It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

I just banned it was pretty decent. So that and on Mondays and everything, the owner at the time of the bowling alley always came and helped and was doing pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

He kind of said, Hey, we need to come over here, young Pedalon.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

When he compared it to things that I knew, like pool. Yeah. So he compared the spin on the ball to English on a cue ball.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Where'd you learn anything about pool from?

SPEAKER_02 18:59

The fella over there.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

So that so you play pool too.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

I do.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

And was just a tournament for that, too.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Yep. Let's not talk about that tournament.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

No, you don't. Your dad already has, so they're aware. But still, I mean 16, right? 17. 17, no. 17? To to walk in, I mean, at 46, I even if I could play pool, I'd be intimidated to go into a state level. Is it state or or was there more than it's a state. It's a state level. Yep. Tournament. And was there many other 17-year-olds or at that tournament?

SPEAKER_02 19:45

The next closest in age to me was on my team. He's probably 19.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

And then say there's there's very few under 18 kids playing in the team tournament.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Right. I've heard stories about state pools, so I I can get that, but to my point is, is even at my, you know, as at 46, I'd be intimidated to be this is state pool, and you know the best of the best are in the state are there, and you walked in there and and yeah, it didn't turn out great, but hell of a learning experience.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

Just teaches them how to deal with a different kind of stress.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

And you said you said that that that that was gonna be good for him going because you hit state bowling was right after that.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Yeah, like the next next day.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

And I mean, you play baseball.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

I do, you're a pitcher, everybody's watching you, so you got some I'm not a stranger to pressure.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Exactly. You got some experience with pressure.

SPEAKER_04 20:53

So pitching against the number one team in the state, having to think thinking you had to have three strikes in a row to win, or playing state pool, which is the most stressful.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

I would much rather pitch to anybody. I'd rather pitch to MLB and try to strike them out before I play staple.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Why? What's the difference?

SPEAKER_02 21:15

It's way easier.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Is it just because you've had more time doing it?

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Yep. I recently at least I just started getting into pool again. Mm-hmm. And I just not good enough yet to trust my abilities.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

So, Chad, if you had the opportunity to start playing pool at 17, how much how much more confidence at at now? Where where would you be now you do you think?

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Oh, I was already playing pool by that point. Um if I wouldn't have taken five At that kind of level though? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Were you okay? I didn't I didn't think I guess not necessarily at a s at a state tournament, but I didn't think you'd start like the the state tournament stuff till college or just after.

SPEAKER_04 21:55

I I didn't start the state state tournament stuff until a little bit later. But I was in some little Tournaments and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 22:01

Um, if I would have not taken off five or six years like after college, yeah, I would have been a whole ball game ahead of me.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Oh, so you let you let the the teaching career get in the way of the pool career. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

So say when I uh met Jenna, I was actually out playing pool with a buddy.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

We've heard this story. So I don't remember all the details of it, but I know there's something about a bet or a purchase.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

Kind of, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

So he's over there rolling his eyes like all I know is it was a bar story.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

So your mom's never been in a bar.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Allegedly. So what else besides bowling, pool, a little bit of cross country, and baseball? What else does Ethan do?

SPEAKER_02 23:05

I work a lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

This I know. I ran into you today at your job.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

At one of my jobs.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

At one of the jobs. So we were I was walking through and that store is completely screwed up right now. Um he works for Mr. Walton. And they're remodeling. Is it remodeling or rearranging? Remodeling. Making it more modern, whatever you want to say. What department do you are you actually in?

SPEAKER_02 23:35

I'm in the seasonal department, but what that really means is I zone in that area, but I just help everywhere else.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

So at least I know they have one helpful person working there now. So but I came around the corner and I'm like, hey, what do you have to do?

SPEAKER_02 23:54

What are you doing here?

SPEAKER_00 23:55

And he's like, What are you doing here? I'm like, I'll just get, you know, prescriptions and which I had to leave and come back for because apparently they don't fill prescriptions until you stop and tell them that you want them, even though you've set it on the app. So and then I was like, you know what? I'll just get it some other time. I'm leaving town. And then I was on the edge of town and dang, your prescription's ready.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

Is that when you came back?

SPEAKER_00 24:21

That's why I came back.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

They were there for batteries too.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

I was there for batteries because when I had left the first time after being, you know, disgruntled about my prescriptions weren't ready. And I was already in a burn the world kind of attitude for the day. Um I had forgotten that I needed a battery for my welding helmet because I'd been borrowing quartz, and I can't help Cord get to be a better welder if I'm wearing his helmet and he doesn't have a helmet to wear. So we were supposed to be welding on a frame today. So I was grabbing battery, I got back and grabbed batteries, and I heard somebody say my name, and all of a sudden I look over and there's Brad and Krista. And she's like, Well, I said to Brad that that looks like Chris. And she goes, and some other guy over there says, Yeah, he was here earlier. He was stocking shelves, and she how that it you know just happened. They're walking towards me, and he's right there. So she's like, I don't know how he knew. I said, Ah, I said it's Ethan. He's and and then Brad, you know, the that's Chad's oldest son. Like Krista didn't know or something, you know. So and I was like, they were running errands as well. So and then I overpaid for a dull hatchet while I was there too.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

At least they can be sharpened.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

That this is true.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

So is it one of them Swiss tech ones?

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Whatever the cheap, what's what's the uh something mountain or whatever, the cheap ones back there in sporting goods. Ozark Trail. Ozark Trail, yeah. It's just so I can make kindling to start that fire in the house because it's gonna snow. They're saying we're gonna have a blizzard, so I'm gonna be lazy and sit by the fire when we're done here tonight. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe Monday. We'll see.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

See, we we should just swing up to the school and throw in a barrel or two.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Uh if I had a truck a working truck, we probably would, Chad. Andrew said that because there's a there's a a guy out on the edge of town, um, right, right off the exit there that has bundles of firewood. And uh he must got some better trees. Because it's usually just pine and you know, whatever. But hey, it's just something I'm not burning it because I have to, you know, keep the house warm with it. I'm burning it because it's a nice ambiance, and I the wood fire heat is nice, but it's okay that it burns quick and goes out, you know. Gives you your couple hours out there, a couple hours, and I can not worry about it burning all night. But he had uh they're like potato sacks, but of various hardwoods. So and at five bucks a bundle, it's pretty cheap. So I always you know leave a tip. And then he had some he had some pre-made kindling fire starters. I he's Andrew used them. She's like, they're soaked in something to help them start. She goes, they they worked really well.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Um, but some of the other ones I wanted to be able to split, and I didn't. I I am without a hatchet. Apparently, that's something I hadn't replaced from a fire yet. So I grabbed the Ozark Trail one. And I and I thought to myself as I was trying to use it and you know make kindling. I'm like, this really needs nice at some point. I'm gonna make one of those kindling, you know, it looks like a lawnmower blade on hinge or whatever. And Andrew's like, Oh, they got them right here. I'm but that's not yeah, Amazon's got them, but that's not fun like making one. So she goes, Don't you have enough projects? Touche. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm gonna sit in my chair longer now because I'm avoiding them.

SPEAKER_04 28:07

But anyways, that's been me for like the last month.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

That has been everybody I've talked to. Um, I'm pretty sure at least half our listeners have been in that funk. And it's called, you know, I never I never really thought, oh, the you know, cabin fever or the winter blues. But here the last couple years when I, you know, I can't go stonewheeling unless I travel somewhere and that costs money and working more. Don't work too much, Ethan.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Yeah, I work five days a week.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Gotta have some time to have fun too. So I'm just saying. But I this year has been like worse than before about the ah, I can wait. This chair's comfy. Then that little voice starts chirping in the back of my head that hey, dumbass, you're you're watching people work on stuff that you know how to do and and and doing it. And it's weirdly in why it's voice, because I used to give him a hard time. He'd I'd come home and he'd be watching YouTube watching somebody play a a game, you know, a gamer or something like that. And I'm real, I'm like, why are you watching somebody play the game that just go play it yourself? You know, one day he comes home from wrestling practice or something like that. I'm watching YouTube. He's like, hey, why are you just watching them build that truck? You can go build that truck. Touche, sir, touche, you carry on. And he was doing the same thing I was. Just learn trying to learn something, trying to learn something, get inspired, a tactic for it, or whatever, or inspired. And and that's that's me most days. I gotta go. I'm I watch somebody whether I know them or not. Um that was that was a discussion. Um then we'll get a younger perspective on that. We'll we'll we'll take you off the hot seat for a little bit, Ethan, okay? Um, I was asked by somebody that we know that does YouTube. Uh he's trying to figure out if the way he's doing the videos is good or if he should change it. And his thoughts were do you do it super technical, showing every step? Do you say, hey, I'm gonna do this, and then you do it, and then you come back, camera, hey that's so I did this, I put this together, and now we're gonna go into this, or do you show some of the technical stuff and then do like the fast forward or fast movement with some some audio? What what's the best way?

SPEAKER_02 30:53

I would say make it how you would want to watch it, keep it halfway entertaining and quality over quantity, but stay consistent.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

That's some wise words. Must get that from your mom. I know it's not from him.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

I don't know. I've watched a lot of YouTube on how to YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Just because it's fairly interesting, the algorithm and everything.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Are you any good at editing?

SPEAKER_02 31:25

I'm halfway decent.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

You want a job?

SPEAKER_04 31:29

I often joke that I should just have him go through and edit all the stuff that I have and see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

Yeah. I got a daughter that went to school for it, but she's too busy with work to do it. So uh that's that's good to know because you know, and like I was talking to this guy about when, you know, he posts, he tries to consistently post on a certain day because that's when he knows that the most he gets the most views or the most people watch his subscribers usually watch in this time period on this day. Yep. And so when we started posting some, we went with, well, we're not gonna post them on Tuesdays because the podcast is on Tuesdays, we'll post them on Thursdays. Um, I went into our the backside or the the YouTube app analytics to try to find it. I couldn't even find where it shows what is our most watch time periods.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Sometimes it doesn't say unless you have enough like information.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

We only have 26 videos, so and that counts shorts, so there's not a lot there.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

One thing that I was just gonna say is take the most interesting parts of your video and compile it into a one-minute short or less, just to help draw your audience because they'll click on the short and be like, oh, this is interesting. I want to watch more. Then you can link the video that you're talking about to that short, and then that can you're the second person that has told me that.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Isabel told me that too, and we have yet to do it. All our shorts were hey, we don't have enough time to video something, but we're gonna video something as a short to to throw it out there. So we need to go take some of those. Our highest our highest viewed video is still me fixing Caleb's truck. Rusty Iowa truck. Why is that interesting?

SPEAKER_04 33:26

I don't know, but because people need to do it.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

That's true. I mean, I didn't really show how to do it.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Yeah, and sorta kinda, but so that's good to know. So you didn't get in depth, but you showed enough to make someone be like, yeah, I can do that. I sure hope. I mean, I did it, so I'm nothing special. Everybody's special. I say for I'm talking again. For like my TikToks or shorts, probably my most popular ones have been compilation picture videos.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

Just I don't know, like 6,000 on my last one.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

I'm telling you, you should just make shit on the lathe with a video on it. I'd sit there and watch it all day. I mean, that's the main reason I want a lathe, is just stress relief. Go out and watch the curls come off something.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

I guess another thing is make your title different than what your thumbnail is showing.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Really? We're giving away all the secrets on the main. Damn it.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Well, this is all stuff that's on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

There's plenty out there. It's you know, just like when we started the the started the podcast, and when I've, you know, people have asked me about starting a podcast, I'm like, do it. There's plenty out there. There's 24 hours a day, and I'm only gonna take one of them if they listen to the whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 34:42

Yeah, so I've noticed that a lot of the bigger YouTubers will constantly change their title name or change their thumbnail picture, just they're always changing it up because it grabs different people for different reasons. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

And the loyal ones are gonna watch it because it's just hey, I'm gonna I mean I'm that way with certain ones. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

But the big, like Mr. Beast or Dude Perfect, or the big YouTubers, they always post certain time every week. Like I think both of them are every other Monday at like five or something.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Yeah. And see, I've heard those names, but I've never watched any other stuff that I know of that I realize. But it's I don't think they really do stuff that I'm, you know, you probably wouldn't be interested. No. I I'm gonna go find the guy cutting up a car. Or I get in the the the bat, I almost need like two different logins because I get hooked on the the war, you know. I'm I'm a dad of a certain age, so I get hooked on war history now. Oh yeah. And then all of a sudden it's all you know air. But I watch a lot of fat electrician. I really like his stuff.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Iowa boy, so it's I like watching I like Fat Electrician and PewView a lot.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

I started watching Pew View after I heard him on, you know, because him and Fat Electrician do a lot. Heard Fat and they the podcast now, you know. Unsubscribe. Well, there's unsubscribe and then underwhelming.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Well, there's uh he has after show and stuff on Pepper Box.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

And I actually subscribed to Pepper Box, but haven't had hardly taken time to watch anything on there. But it's because there were so many of I mean all those guys doing you know stuff supporting supporting vets, going and supporting troops, the history on things. Um that's where I like that stuff, but then I watch that and then it's like I go, I want to watch some, I want to watch somebody work on a truck. I can't find any videos because my algorithm's saying, Oh, you want to watch more history stuff.

unknown 36:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

So that and making your title something that you would search for when looking for that is halfway important too.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

These are all good things. I might have to go back and listen to our own podcast to remember them now.

SPEAKER_04 37:03

Say part of uh the reason why I haven't just launched a channel already is trying to figure out exactly what I want my focus to be. Do I want to be like teaching people how to do stuff, like all how-to videos, or do I want to be like the ASMR type woodworking guy? I don't know if I really want to do that. That'd be kind of a pain in the ass. But I don't know. Gotta figure out my my niche before I jump.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

That's kind of you know, and and Court and I jumped into it with uh trying to keep it kind of like the podcast is that we're not we don't want to pigeonhole into just one thing because we'll get bored with it, and if we get bored with it, then it's gonna crash.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

And you can diversify as long as you keep the same like tone across everything.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Which ours is like automotive, you know, shop stuff. But um, I've chat, I've told you for years the the woodworking stuff.

SPEAKER_04 38:08

So there's there's a lot of woodworkers that are fairly successful on YouTube. So I I don't think I'd have too hard of a time once I got maybe a little toe hold.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

But I think the advantage for you would be the common guy. And and I think you could mix it up with a little bit of the ASMR, a little bit of the how-to, and maybe even it be just the stupid simple stuff that you're like, nobody wants to watch this because everybody knows this. How to glue up boards, or you know, simple router, or the stuff you honestly take your curriculum from middle school and do YouTube videos of it.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

That's kind of what I figured I'd do at some point.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

And there'd be a ton of people that are they've watched Bourbon Moth or they've watched whoever. I say Bourbon Moth only because you guys you talk about them. Yep, Court talks about them, but they they watch those or they see the TikTok of the of that stuff, they get that little bit of interest in it, but there's and maybe there is videos out there, but you know, they a simple how-to make that simple thing that is the start for them to do bigger things. It's an idea.

SPEAKER_04 39:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

I probably never would have dove into doing the rat rod stuff I have, or or even the off-road suspension stuff I have if it wasn't watching you know the Vice Grip Garage and the And actually I didn't start watching Vice Grip Garage until a year or two ago. Probably a year, year and a half ago is when I started watching him, just because other people talked about it. Cletus is the same way. Um before that, I didn't I'd watch YouTube when I needed to figure out how to work on something. Yep. Um, and a lot of that was oh, I can't afford I can't afford to even have complete off-road build my suspension, and I work there. I gotta do it myself. But in turn, that's also broaden the what we can do at complete off-road now because people ask for this. I'm like, oh yeah, I can do that. That's not a problem, you know.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Yeah, so and I can speak for people our age. We use YouTube more to figure something out than to be entertained, and then entertainment just kind of comes with it. Right. What about people your age? What do you use YouTube for?

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Depends on when I'm watching it. Like if I'm trying to avoid something, entertainment, like I watch a fat electrician or something, because that's entertaining to me. And I like history, so I mean it just comes naturally. But if like say doing YouTube or whatever, and I want to know how the algorithm works, why the algorithm works, then it's more for an error or more for education. But like at night, if I can't sleep, I just put on YouTube of whatever. Most recently I was watching a four-hour long video of Air Force BMT. Just because why not? It was fairly interesting to me. And I don't know. I've just was like relaxing almost just because all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna send him down here.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

BMT.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Basic military training.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

For a guy that for a guy that puts you know acronyms to everything else, I couldn't figure that one out. But so it was Air Force basic training. Yep. So boot camp. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Are we thinking about that?

SPEAKER_02 41:48

Not really, but it showed up and I was like, okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

See Court likes to put on bourbon moth because he's got a soothing voice that's very monotone and blah blah blah blah blah. And it makes you go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

When I was sick, I was gonna put him on and I'd fall asleep.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

If I if I'm if I get to the point where like I really can't find anything that I'm interested in, and I'm like, I need to go to sleep, I don't know what it is, but forged in a fire.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

It will kill.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

I don't know why you would think because it's they're you know forging and that, and that's honestly something I I've always it's rhythmic. It's rhythmic. Um, it's I'm learn I'm still kind of feel like I'm learning something because I've taken stuff I've seen on there and then applied it into building a hot rod, you know, twist and steel or whatever, but I've never forged a knife. I think it'd be something cool to do, but I you know, I don't know if there's even anything anywhere around here you can do classes like that.

SPEAKER_04 42:49

Yeah, I always thought it'd be fun to build your own knife.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

I you know, it's and it's just like building your own car or anything else. I built that, you know, and it's something you know you'd have on your side or in your truck or whatever. But um, I'm the same way though. It and uh when you're older, your wife will not like that. So fair warning. At least that's what I'm told.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

I think regardless of education or entertainment, it still pertains to your interests.

SPEAKER_04 43:19

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

Because I mean, even though I'm not interested in joining the military, I am interested in the history and what they're doing and how they do it.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

I got one that popped up, and sometimes they pop up, and I'll start watching the preview or watch the first few minutes, but like, I'm interested in this, but not right now. So then it's like you fit the goats. Then they're in that queue of keep watching or whatever. Uh there's and it probably popped up because you know, these things are always listening. And we have a friend that was talking about his recent deployment, and some of the aircrafter were over there, and one of those popped up, and it's an aircraft. That I've heard of. Don't know a whole lot about, but the Angel of Death. The C-130s with the howitzer out the side. I'd never seen how the inside of one of them worked, and the thumbnail was the inside of it. And it's like that's neat. So I started watching that. But to what you said, the thumbnail and whatever the title was didn't match at all. I mean they were Air Force related.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

But not the titles to tell you what the video is, yeah. The thumbnails to grab it.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

So I've kind of heard where it's more it's common for the thumbnail if there's someone in it to do better. Like a person. If if there's a person in it, they tend to do better. I don't know if that's true or not.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

I wondered that because all of the ones are thumbnails prior to Caleb's truck. Didn't have anybody in it. And that was the first one I was Andrea did the thumbnail that time. Yeah. Because she got sick of my crappy thumbnails. And uh so she threw a picture and I'm like, did that really did that take off? I don't know because we haven't done enough since because things get busy. And that's that you know, there's so many people, oh it'd be great to be an influencer YouTuber. That's a lot of work. Um I've watched YouTube's or interviews and and especially podcasts, because I have a lot, you know, the drive to work in house. I listen to a lot of podcasts that have, you know, they talk to some of the YouTubers that that I'm interested in, or even some of the guys that have done the um the tech shows, things like that. And you know, several of them are like, people think I make all kinds of money. I I make a pretty basic salary because all the stuff that I'm going and doing, yeah, it's fun to go do it. Costs money, but it costs money, and you're out constantly having outdo yourself.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

Well, in Fat Electrician, I don't remember what video, he said generally every million views is five thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

And what he's done is he's gotten smart about diversifying what he owns. And you know, the and then pulling back and saying, hey, instead of paying this company to do t-shirts, I'm gonna do my own t-shirts and then I'm gonna do this guy's t-shirt, you know. And that and that's that's a group of fellas that got together and they're all supporting each other and being on each other's channels and um the downfall of Motor Trend. You see, you've seen a lot of that happen.

SPEAKER_04 46:39

I mean really we'd probably be smart for just a like just throwing out days like Monday and Thursday are your days, Tuesday and Friday are my days. I come over, I record you, you come over to the city.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

That's a hundred percent because how much easier is it?

SPEAKER_04 46:54

We'd have to treat it a little bit like a job. We have to show up on these days, everything else.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

No more treating it like a job than you know, Sunday nights is we we get together and record, you know. And and there can be some variables, hey, I've got to go do this on this night, but yeah, and even if it was two nights a week, I but just and I was talking the same guy talking to me, and he does everything on his own. And I don't know why I don't I'm gonna say it's Ricky.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

Having the camera like what you have and I have now that will swivel that that was a game changer.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Pedro, we've I've named my main named ours Pedro because Pedro wasn't listening the other day, and I said, Pedro, over here, because it started following Brad. But that's part of all that the the microphones went to crap. Yep, and we have no audio, so now I got a voice over it.

SPEAKER_04 47:46

Which I in a lot of ways, I think some of those videos are my favorites where it's all voiceover. Yeah. Because you can talk about what you're seeing in the video. I'm honestly intimidated because I've never explained things just a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

Yeah, I've never had to do a voiceover, but then on the flip side, that that's a good point that you can explain a little better than you did on the fly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

So and sometimes the a lot of the stuff you do is gonna be very noisy, right? So then you don't have to hear that. Yeah. Because there's a lot you could put out an ASMR video once in a while just to draw.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Sometimes I'll leave like a little bit of the welding and then I'll I'll I'll m pull it down and then just throw music in, you know, if it's 30 seconds of welding or whatever. Um but I was telling Ricky that you know he does Rico's garage, and I that's who I was asking all these questions for because he's done it for a while. I mean um and I said this past week trying to do it, you know, with by myself, it was the motivation wasn't there because I'm I'm a people person. Um I like to, you know, I like to to share my knowledge. Some people could uh say that I just like to talk, but like woodworking.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

I and if I do it myself, I'm doing all voiceover because I'm not gonna stop mid thing and talk to the camera. But in both but but like if someone else is recording me and like, hey, what are you doing here? Because you don't know. I was like, hey, let's take a minute and go over this.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

And that's and that's the thing that I don't you know I think would help both of us is I don't realize, you know, when it has been like Court's working or something, or Geyer was working on something I came over, I start asking them questions about it. Yep. Um, and Court's done it to me. Like, and Brad Brad's good at you, you've helped us video. When you have that other person there, not only are you getting somebody that's asking questions about something they may not know a lot about, but you're also getting that fluid angle that what's he doing there? Let's get a little closer, closer in and out, you know, without having to do it in po in edit, not having to do it. Oh, I gotta re I'm gonna make this again, or I'm gonna do this weld again, but now I'm gonna have it closer. You know, you're you're getting the multiple angle shots without having to do multiple angle shots. Yep. So I I get it. Um yeah, we can I would totally be game for setting a schedule of something like that. Then apparently we gotta we got a guy over here, you know, he edited for us, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

So then going back to the thumbnail with the person in it, I think that's mostly the algorithm seeing if it's AI or not. The algorithm heavily favors real people over AI.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

So if there's a person in it, they think, oh, it's really it's not an AI video. So then they push it out to more people.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Two thoughts here. One and this is the running joke that Court and I have is we don't have the right equipment to be a good thumbnail. This is where we need video for the you know how many people have asked us, why did you guys video your so you can see Ethan turning red right now because he it clicked what I meant. But um as far as from an AI perspective, what's your thoughts on you on AI uh in in the related to like YouTube videos?

SPEAKER_02 51:20

It's really good. Just use it as a tool, not as your project. Because as long as you you can say, hey, this is my niche, this is my idea, make a script so then you can voice over it and you don't have to put as much thought into it.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

So have the AI put your your script together.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

Like put a script together on what you might say so that way you know what you're gonna say and it's not off the top of your head and sounds choppy. Okay. Or for thumbnails, like you can have there's AI thumbnail makers where they can just Oh, I've I've used I've used Chat GPT, like, hey, this logo, this this picture make it.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Um if you saw my computer, that backdrop, it's it's the trail hated thumbnail for trail hated podcast gear. Geyer has joined us. Um is that making a bunch of noise in your headphone? No, because it's not on and I can't turn it on until unless I stopped the recording. Oh so you have to talk.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

Just talk really loud.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

What I should have done is hit your record on that mic and then just muted it until you got here.

SPEAKER_01 52:31

But well, to be fair, you didn't know what time I was gonna get here because we said we didn't know what gyer time was.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

So just you'll be they'll hear you. I mean, it's microphones. So here's my thing with AI in YouTube. I think it should have to have some sort of this is an AI video. I know they have their little, but I don't always see that. Most people probably don't always see that. There should be like you can do AI stuff, but if it's AI generated video, I should be able to filter that out. And maybe there is, and I just don't know how.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

I don't think there's a way to filter it at this time, because even the algorithm is an AI. Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:19

So it can't decipher between AI and human as well as just and I get that YouTube, I ever says YouTube's got the most advanced algorithm of you know for the way it sh sends videos and that. Um but there's from a creator standpoint that could be something that you have to, you know, you can't tell me that AI can't recognize AI. So there should be a way to filter it out. Because I don't want to watch the AI videos, I want to watch real people doing real things. If I feel like, oh, I want to watch something crazy, then I will. Just like I sent that video of that epoxy driveway. I was 50-50 whether it was real or not. I thought it was real the first time I watched it, I thought it was real until the mere image of two gals with with blowtorches walk up the driveway. I'm like, okay, this is probably AI.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

That would have literally been probably tens of thousands of dollars of epoxy.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Oh, probably.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Maybe, maybe getting up on hundreds.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

I don't I don't I don't know. Maybe maybe if you buy it in larger bulk quantities or something, who knows? But the idea was still there that that is a real would be a really cool looking floor in my my garage edition that I'm only going to park finished vehicles on.

unknown 54:47

Are they gonna leak oil?

SPEAKER_00 54:48

They might. I'll have I'll have mats under them. I mean, really, it's most of them have small block Chevies in them, so they're all gonna leak. But at any rate, you know, and guys are like, oh no, but Chad's like, didn't cost anything, it's AI. I kind of knew that, but I wasn't great, Chad. Chad hating on it. So anyways, that's I it is very interesting to me to get a 17-year-old's perspective on the current state of YouTube and and if you ask a seven-year-old, it's gonna be way different again.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

They're gonna be looking for Bluey. Like fully AI or whatever the all of those animated kids YouTube, they're almost all the way AI.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

They don't know it, but so you think that's affecting the future, children? Kids?

SPEAKER_02 55:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Well, they won't know what's real.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

That and the iPad generation, they're they're terrible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

I would say there's a number of kids in your generation, Ethan, that are fucking iPad kids.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

They are.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

The next ones down, they're gonna be worse.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Scary thought, ain't it? How many years before we can retire?

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Ten school years.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

But who's counting? No. As he pulls up his countdown clock. 11 and a half. I think it was 12 and a half last year at the end of the year.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

It's uh I should have forgotten they changed my fucking icon, the the app icon. Oh look, talks amongst yourselves. Found it. 10 years, two months, 15 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes, and 39 seconds. We can retire.

SPEAKER_00 56:46

But who's counting?

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Not me.

SPEAKER_04 56:49

Clearly. So do you have any kind of uh post-high school thoughts yet?

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Not really. I've sort of thought being a cop would be kind of cool.

SPEAKER_04 57:01

But talk to Cumra first. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

I've heard that it's not the best, but I still kind of want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

I will say the same thing to everybody that wants to be a teacher, too. Maybe you should look somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00 57:15

I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Your mom probably won't like this for sure. Your dad might not either, but I would tell you to look into military before you look into being a cop. Because there's a lot of there's a lot of things from a military perspective that you're not gonna be getting shot at. With technology, drone operator. Drone operator.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

You can be sitting just or I will fly in a drone over freaking make it make it radiated Iraqis.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

Um we're not at war with Iraq anymore. It's further over now, or close. I don't know where it is.

unknown 57:51

Iranium.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

Sorry, I was off by one letter. Durka Durka! Just go Durka Durka. That's what you're supposed to do now.

SPEAKER_04 57:56

Hey, that rhymes.

SPEAKER_00 57:59

Um actually he just moved by my cousin that he just moved the area, um, works at Henderson now. He was he retired as a master chief in the Navy, and his his job when he was on a boat was watching finding submarines.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

And the thing you gotta like the people that are smarter, and let's be honest, Ethan, you're a smart kid. Like you're not dumb, right?

SPEAKER_02 58:31

I do my best.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

Okay. The military's goal is not to put the smart, smartest people in a place where they'll get shot at the most. Like they want to keep those people safe. So like on those on those tests. You know, that's why there's those tests.

SPEAKER_03 58:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

They'll be like, um, maybe you should not enlist. You should maybe go be a uh, you know.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Can I have that bottle of water sitting there?

SPEAKER_01 59:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

Um go to Ann Arbor or uh, you know, and you're not gonna you're gonna come in as a fucking officer with a four-year degree that, oh, by the way, we're also gonna pay for.

SPEAKER_00 59:16

But there's going on that. And there's but there's other I mean I was talking to Jake today. You're not gonna be you're not gonna be a pro bowler. You're probably not gonna make it to the MLB. So I know there's a lot of you know people in town that think their kids are gonna make it to the MLB or the world, I shouldn't say town, the world. That let's be honest, it's what is it? It's like half a percent or something.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

Like, you know, yeah, MLB, NFL, NBA, it's it's like less than a hundredth of a percent of all the kids that started when they were wee little kids.

SPEAKER_02 59:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

That actually make it because you know how many teams in the NFL are 32?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:07

Take 32 times 52. Can you get me close in your head?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:11

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

Okay, so so 30, 32, th just do 30 times 50.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:17

Be like, call it 1600 people.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

That's how many people get to be professional.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:23

He said 30 times 50. I could do that. That was 1500.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

That that there so there's 1,500 people that get to be professional football players every single year. Because they got a 52-man roster that they gotta hit at the beginning of the year. 1,500 out of the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of kids nationwide to play football or baseball or basketball.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:46

I would tell you do something that AI can't do yet. Well, not even that, because that's what I would pick. I but I agree with you, but I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

I was telling Jake today. I'm like, I'd have a hard time recommending anybody go to college right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

Isn't that a change?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

I was I was thinking like I would not, I would not, I I I I am not envious at all of the position that my son and you, Ethan, are in right now where you sit there going, Well, but I really like computers and I want to do fucking computer shit. Yeah, fucking AI is gonna take that job in 36 months. Yeah, you know, it's like all your white find something that all your white collar jobs are on the chopping block that is the most AI proof if I'm gonna try and make a career out of something.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

Like, so what can I do until Elon gets his hand built, perfected, it's built, gets it perfected, then gets it perfected, then we're all fucked.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Then we all might be then we're all gonna be on the high income, the universal high income pay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

Oh, I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

That was so that was my question from Kevin.

unknown 1:02:08

I'm like, yo, so what are they gonna do? You got fucking 250 million unemployed fucking people in this country.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

What are they gonna fucking do to make money? They gotta live, they gotta pay bills, they gotta place to live. Like, what are they gonna do? Plus solution is the universal uh higher job. I don't know how they pay for it if like if it's like something where like however many robots or AI controlled things you got, this is how much you extra you pay in taxes every year, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

Oh, so I'm gonna be poor anyways because I don't want to own any.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

See we we we have to it's if you own a business, if you have a hundred thousand fucking robots working for you and no people, yeah, you get taxed more.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

Um the opposite way you were thinking.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

Um and uh uh like yeah, but here's the thing though. Idle hands are the devil's playground. What are you gonna find to do for all these people that don't go to work every day?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:09

Oh, you want examples? I can sh send you to certain parts of towns.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

No, you uh what I'm saying is you have to find we're still we're still on the main, aren't we? Sorry guys, you have to find things for people to do, or it's gonna be no fucking good. If you don't have if you don't get and I'm a primal example of that in June, July, and August. If I don't have a fucking reason to get up and go do anything, I won't. I will happily lay in my fucking recliner.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

It's like in Wally. It's like in WALL E.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

WALLE.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

They're all in the recliners. Right? Fat is that the right movie?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

Uh is that the one where they're out in space? Which one was the one where they're out in space?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

There's been several that have that. No, but I think I think you think Wally is Wally.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

I don't think so, but I can't think of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Someone that's listening and's got kids that's probably watched it, and they'll let us know. But that's that's the position I don't envy where you're at right now. Like, I got fucking 10 years to go, and then I can be super freaking flexible, finding literally anything to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

Or which recliner to sit in.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:24

You're 12 to 60 months away from like, okay, I gotta have a career for the rest of you know 30 to 35 years. What am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

I don't I I don't even think you have to decide what you're gonna do. Be flexible. You know, be flexible, be adaptable.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:45

Man, is that one of the things that we make you do on Wednesdays, Ethan?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

Nope, flexibility and adaptability. They're combined.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:54

Is that the uh career-ready skills? Being flexible and adaptable, being able to communicate, and then come up with how have you done that?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:03

Let's run this one into the dock with you said you had multiple jobs, and I think this is gonna be a good example of how adaptable you are. What are your jobs?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:14

I work as a bartender slash pin setter at the bowling alley, and um I work at Walmart as well.

unknown 1:05:24

And and and the repair man at the bowling alley.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

I say you do the center like I gotta fix this thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:32

Minor repair. You're kind of the you're kind of jack all trades out there at the bowling alley.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

I'm pretty much the do-all, save all.

unknown 1:05:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

So for people twice your age that are like, oh, what do I do?

unknown 1:05:43

Twice.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:44

Or l or more. Or more, but still, you know what I'm so that in itself right there is an example of the good upbringing and the multifaceted, you know, upbringing that your parents have given you. Your ability to adapt to how many different situations you've already got, you've probably you're already ahead of a lot of kids. And for for one, the fact that you want to work, and two, that you are adaptable. And yeah, today I might have to do this, tomorrow I might have to do that. And your your dad's over there shaking, yeah, but at home he just is as lazy. But sure I can't get that motherfucker. You're 17, they all are, believe me. But uh you're gonna go, you're gonna do good things. You're gonna do great things.

unknown 1:06:36

If you don't.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

You can be a dumbass around table talking on podcasts every Sunday night, so there's always that. Um you guys talking about his bowling or anything just we've covered it all already. You missed it all.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

No, so I was thinking about it on the way out, like the final parting question.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

Okay, here it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

So, two different situations. You gotta pick which one you'd rather be in. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

This is this might be a well.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

You may have already done this.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

You're a pitcher for a baseball team, and you're the anchor for a bowling team. Okay, state tournament. Would you rather be on the mound for the state championship in baseball? Night uh top of the eighth. You got you got a perfect game going. All you gotta do is throw three more strikes. You wouldn't say Thailand throw a perfect game. Or it's bowling. State finals, you know, you're all the way to the end.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

So you still gotta throw strikes.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

Still gotta throw strikes.

unknown 1:07:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

I know that much about bowling. And baseball.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

Uh and I guess it's a little different situation than how how you're how high school bowling is set up. Um, but like when I was bowling, you bowl three-game series.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:04

So we're gonna assume you're bowling a three-game series. You've it's the third game, you have to strike out. If you strike out, you're gonna throw a 300 and an 800 if you strike out. If you don't strike out, you're gonna have a 799 and lose. Which situation would you rather be in?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:28

Based on those two scenarios, I'd rather pitch three strikes just because if I'm already bowling that good and need three strikes, I'd probably get fucked and get a 90. Probably just throw a perfect shot and have a 90.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:49

I could definitely say it'd probably be easier to throw three strikes at baseball because you have how many different variables that you can use because you've got a guy that's gonna swing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:58

How many times have you thrown a perfect shot and you see a stone eight or stone nine?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:02

Right. Well, how good you catcher? Man, a good freaking catcher. Yeah, you have help there. A good catcher can make the make a huge difference for the guy on the mile.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

Baseball is just a little bit in more in your hands than bowling is. Once you throw the ball, you're done. You don't get to control it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:22

You've already seen it. Can't pull it back. So parting words for our listeners.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:30

Words of wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:32

Do hard things. It grows some part of your brain that I don't remember the name of. Probably the amygdala. Nope, not that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:41

The Abdullah Mugatta. That's close. Just be glad some of those slow pitches that we let go by, he would have he would have swung at every one of them. So you'll have to listen to the Patriot.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

He would have tried screwing himself from the ground.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:01

Sometimes I was really happy to just stand there with my bat on my shoulder and let him throw freaking balls and walk me.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:07

The good the good news is you're safe to still do the intro. We told him if he did good at the intro, I might just keep the recording and then just loop it and you wouldn't have to do it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

It's so bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:24

Mickey Mouse showed up.

unknown 1:10:26

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

Aha!

SPEAKER_01 1:10:32

Hey, kids!

unknown 1:10:34

You know.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:35

That sounded like Krusty the Clown. Oh, it might have been. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:38

It's a it's a hard one to hit. I don't hit it every time. Sometimes it sucks. Mine was got a little dry throat, you didn't have enough uh Mountain Dew.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

So I I like I like that do hard things. Um I'll follow that up with do the hard thing. Because it is you're you're always going to learn from it. See what I mean by now. We're 10 year olds at the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

That was fortunate.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:13

But uh the other part of that is support your friends when they're doing hard things. You know, they we've all done it. Somebody said, you know, this vertical roof here, let's shingle it. We all showed up to support it. Another one of them said, Hey, look, I I'm gonna build a house, we showed up to support it. So always always be there to support.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

Oh, oh, but he leaves out the one where like, oh hey, by the way, I'm on a hard back end fucking deadline. I'm gonna drop the floor three fucking inches.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:48

And I did it all myself. I said you didn't have to show up. You were here. I'll give you credit to be here, but I didn't say I I when when you said I just quit showing up. When you when you when you said hey, I'm gonna I gotta shingle my roof, I didn't say, did he look at a calendar?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

We we know he didn't look at a calendar. Three years later.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

Oh, and it's gotta be done in three days. That's the difference between me saying we're gonna shingle a roof and use the room.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:27

But I work good with a deadline. Although I think there's some people that I I think the universe is thinking that I work too good with deadlines here lately, but we'll talk about maybe we'll talk about that on Patreon. I don't want to throw that out to the the whole universe. But, anyways, do hard things, grow from them, and support your buddies when they're doing hard things. You might y'all might learn something. So with that, Gary, did you have any? Party work? You're not wise. Mentality w ten-year-olds can be wise. You have no wisdom tonight. Alright. Chad. Are you ready to light the world on fire and watch it burn too? I've been there all day. Oh, I've been there before.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

I'll bet they get a lot of views on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

Hey! Can we put a cherry can we put a Cherokee next to it? As long as your car starts mine on fire, we're good.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:40

Well, as long as we have an ember light mine on fire from the shop.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:45

Oh no, it can't be here. It can't be on this property. No, no, no. We we've used up the limit of of of fire on this property. Yeah, I you could go with the neighbor theory. We can say Alex had a fire. Had a camp, was having a little outdoor fire, and the ember landed in the sun. No, it doesn't have a sunroof, does it?

unknown 1:14:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

Oh it does. Oh okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

As long as it doesn't light my oak tree on fire. Now we're just taking the loss on both vehicles.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:19

Now, this is where we say we are totally kidding. We are not talking about insurance fraud.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

And all of our guns were lost in a fucking light accident.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

I lost mine in the fire. They're gone. Ain't got them. So next week? I don't know what we're gonna do for next week. I mean, we had a guest this week. Now we gotta follow that up. Hard act to follow.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

Probably not.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:49

I mean, the easy way to do it to make it even better would be to have Adam on.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:56

He's he's already, you know, telling everybody about the podcast. So, I mean, he's already like our uh hype guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:05

So do you sometimes wish you had the Prius back?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:10

No, I actually like my car a lot. The only time I don't like it is when I fill up and it's like five dollars more. Only thing is I have to fill it more.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:19

You gotta fill it more often.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

So you've been and granted it's cold, so it's it's not as good as it can be, but you've been getting like what 18 or 20. 18 to 20, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

And the single digits with the force yet. For the listeners who know who you are, what brand is that car?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:38

Toyota.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:39

Okay. So I can see the smiles already.

unknown 1:15:46

It's hard to go wrong with a toil, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:48

It really is.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

I gotta dive a little deeper into the Prius make it run again.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:53

They're they're teasing me with that they're gonna bring out a one-ton, so they truly bring out a one-ton.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:58

One ton diesel, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:59

Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:00

Yeah, like it like it's not like a one like one ton suspension that brains that we're gonna put a gap, we're gonna put the five seven in there. They're talking diesel, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:08

Yeah, they don't even have they don't even do the five seven anymore.

unknown 1:16:11

Oh, don't they?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

No, they have for V8. They've been doing it's V6.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:16

35 V6 in the tundras now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

Which makes or 37, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:22

Yeah, it makes respectable power, but um, I'm just wondering whose diesel they're gonna use because I I didn't read far enough in to see if they did, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:30

Like in every other country but ours, though, Toyotas run a lot of freaking diesels on a lot of their own.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:36

Oh yeah, I'm sure I I don't doubt that they have a diesel. I don't doubt that they well, he know. All that he knows is stuff from Toyota. I mean, Toyota helped develop the LS, just decided not to use it. So it's not that they can't figure it out. But anyways, we've done the Iowa goodbye now. So thanks for listening. Check out our uh supporters, our Spartans. We're stealing that. Yes, I'm stealing that, Adam. Social butterfly media, bearded customs, crawler off-road. And I guess we really, you know, they're they're kind of sponsoring the Elmoco build, so give me a call at Complete Off-Road if you need some parts, or accessories for your vehicle. Everybody here at the table has gotten accessories for their vehicle from Complete Off-Road. They have in a roundabout way.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:33

So I I've got a phone holder.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:37

See? I got a phone holder.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

Court might have paid my monthly salary, so not really. He gets the the uh friends and family discount. So with that, tune in next week. We'll have something to talk about.

unknown 1:17:55

Later.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:56

Peace. Hasta luego.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:14

Time to let the ears cool off. Are you're sweaty? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:20

I I think I'm gonna have to give in and get a haircut soon. As it gets got warmer the other day, it was a bad deal.

unknown 1:18:27

I give you a haircut.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:29

My wife won't let that happen again. I it was very nice for the maintenance wise, but my wife is not gonna let it happen again.