In Victoria, matters alleging the abuse or neglect of children are heard in the Family Division of the Children’s Court – a specialist court designed to hear child protection matters. However, the Children’s Court is notoriously adversarial. Litigation can be protracted, traumatising for families, and occurs in a system where the prosecuting authority is simultaneously trying to work collaboratively with the family – an uneasy alliance by anyone’s standards. Less adversarial approaches are available but rare and lack a primary prevention framework. A specialist infant court has the capacity to support vulnerable and at-risk families from the outset to ensure safety of the infant and work collaboratively with the family to keep the family together wherever possible. So, exactly how would a specialist infant court operate and what do we need to do to get one of our own?
Show notes:
Matthew Wilson’s report
https://www.churchilltrust.com.au/project/to-investigate-innovative-court-based-approaches-to-infants-in-care-and-protection-proceedings/
Submission below by Nicole and Matthew
https://yoorrookjusticecommission.org.au/document-library/submission-tweddle-foundation/
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Corporal punishment in the home, in one form of the other, is legal in every State of Australia. Whilst corporal punishment still appears to be commonly used within our country in practice, studies indicate corporal punishment is increasingly being seen as an unnecessary form of discipline. If cultural attitudes are changing, but the incidence of corporal punishment is still unacceptably high, then what, if anything, do we need to do to bridge that gap?
Show notes:
Linda Savage: https://www.ccyp.wa.gov.au/about-us/the-ambassadors/ms-linda-savage/
Convention on the Rights of the Child:
Article 19(1) states parties shall take all appropriate legislative, administrative, social and educational measures to protect the child from all forms of physical or mental violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment or exploitation, including sexual abuse, while in the care of parent(s), legal guardian(s) or any other person who has the care of the child.
The prevalence of corporal punishment in Australia: Findings from a nationally representative survey
End Physical Punishment of Australian Children (EPPAC) Campaign
Research for this episode was conducted by Vanessa Mocibob.
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The Reportable Conduct Scheme outlines the obligations of organisations covered by the Scheme to notify the Commission for Children and Young People (CCYP) of reportable allegations made against workers of an organisation.. Its purpose is to help identify individuals who pose a risk of harm to children and young people, promote information sharing between government regulators and organisations, and improve responses to allegations of child abuse and harm within organisations.
On July 1 2024 amendments to the Child Wellbeing and Safety Act 2005 (Vic) (‘The Act’) came into force which expands the definition of ‘employee’ and ‘worker’ under the Reportable Conduct Scheme (‘Scheme’) and increases the enforcement and compliance powers of the CCYP and police.
Expanding these definitions ensures that allegations of child-related harm and misconduct in organisations is properly reported and investigated, regardless of the employment relationship with the organisation.
Will these changes ensure all allegations of abuse or harm are reported, irrespective of the person's position within the organisation? And will the increased powers of the CCYP and the police capture those offenders who have previously fallen in the gaps?
Show Notes:
Safe Space Legal
https://safespacelegal.com.au/new-legislative-changes-child-wellbeing-safety-act/
https://safespacelegal.com.au/child-safe-standards-reportable-conduct-victoria/
https://safespacelegal.com.au/child-safe-standards/
https://safespacelegal.com.au/child-safe-standards-law-amendments/
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/final-report
Research for this episode was compiled by Claudia Brophy-Odgers.
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In “The Importance of Being Well at Work” series we explore what it takes to maintain health and wellbeing when working in trauma saturated environments – in this case, where the work involves working for or on behalf of children.
In this episode, we focus on the health and wellbeing of psychologists. We speak to Ashleigh Barber, an Educational and Developmental Psychologist dedicated to providing compassionate and evidence-based support to children and their families.
Show Notes:
https://www.ashleighbarberpsychology.com.au/
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In “The Importance of Being Well at Work” series we explore what it takes to maintain health and wellbeing when working in trauma saturated environments such as the children’s law jurisdiction.
In this episode we talk to Marguerite Picard who began her career in crime, family and children’s law and very quickly worked out either she, or traditional forms of lawyering, had to go. This is her story.
Show notes:
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"In Conversation" is a parallel series where we invite lived experience speakers to come share our stories with us.
In this episode, Paige Buck, a lived experience advocate, shares her journey growing up in care and the experiences that inspired her to become a lawyer, advocating for children and families navigating the child protection system.
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Harmful sexual behaviours Is considered a serious and growing concern in secondary schools. This harm can encompass a range of behaviours such as sexual harassment, assault, bullying and use of online technology to stalk, harass, groom and menace. The ongoing nature of these behaviours has catastrophic effects on those victimised and can implant and magnify attitudes and behaviours that will carry on to adulthood.
Show Notes:
Melinda Tankard-Reist
https://melindatankardreist.com/
https://www.collectiveshout.org
Books published by Melinda Tankard Reist:
Maha Melhem
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maha-melhem-legalconsulting/?originalSubdomain=au
Commissioner for Children and Young People
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The Youth Justice Bill 2024, introduced into parliament on June 18, 2024, outlines plans to raise the age of criminal responsibility for most offences to 12 by early 2025. This change reflects a growing recognition of the need to approach youth justice with a focus on rehabilitation and the developmental needs of children. Scientific evidence of the brain’s development has shown that someone aged between 10-14 years may not be able to understand the moral consequences of criminal behaviour and lack the maturity to be held criminally responsible for their actions. History tells us that early engagement with the criminal justice system adversely impacts children and increases criminal trajectories whilst ignoring the origins of offending. Raising the age requires changes in approaching the children impacted and implementing early intervention programs to divert criminal pathways. But raising the age of criminal responsibility is not a welcome development for everyone. Critics argue that merely raising the age of criminal responsibility without these robust support systems in place is insufficient and question whether society is equipped to effectively rehabilitate children who display criminal behaviours and prevent them from embarking on a life trajectory of crime. The contentious nature of this issue was reflected more recently with the Victorian government reneging on its commitment to further raise the age to 14 in line with international standards. Some argue the current plans to raise the age of criminal responsibility to 12 is a sensible mid-way point. Others question whether it goes far enough.
Sources:
Youth Justice Bill: https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/bills/601020bi1.pdf
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Suicide is the leading cause of death in young people (aged 28 to 24) in Australia. Because suicide is a preventable cause of death it is critical for us to understand the risk factors that lead to suicidal behaviours. A leading risk factor contributing to the burden of suicide in young people is child maltreatment and/or adverse childhood events but direct links between these and youth suicide is difficult to prove. The concept of ‘coerced suicide’ is a useful vehicle through which to start a conversation about the relationship between maltreatment, experiences of violence and suicide – a conversation which will hopefully pave the way for greater research and critical reform in this area.
Show notes
Shannon Miller
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-miller1984/?originalSubdomain=au
Victorian suicide Register – Coroner’s Annual Data Report – 2023
https://www.berrystreet.org.au/uploads/main/Files/Missing-Figures-Report-Final-May-2023.pdf
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10926771.2017.1335821
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In “The Importance of Being Well at Work” series we explore what it takes to maintain health and wellbeing when working in trauma saturated environments – in this case, jurisdictions dealing with children’s law. In this episode we focus on the health and wellbeing of Barristers.
Show notes:
Dr Michelle Sharpe, Victorian Bar – Michelle is a member of the Victorian Bar, practicing primarily in the area of general commercial and regulatory law. In 2006 she was a founding member of the Victorian Bar’s Health and Wellbeing Committee and was involved in establishing a wellbeing program which included a 24/7 counselling service for barristers. She’s hosted numerous Continual Professional Development sessions on wellbeing and has been involved in the production of a wellbeing film and a pilot debriefing study for the Victorian Bar.
https://www.vicbar.com.au/profile/7347
https://www.empowergirl.com.au/our-advisors/
https://lsbc.vic.gov.au/lawyers/practising-law/professional-obligations/rules-and-compliance
https://www.amazon.com.au/Lawyer-Know-Thyself-Psychological-Personality/dp/159147096X
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=lawyer+know+theyself&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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The Australian Child Maltreatment Study (ACMS) is the first national study of the experiences and associated health and social outcomes of child maltreatment in Australia. A key take away of the study is that most Australians - have experienced child maltreatment. One would therefore expect the prevalence of child maltreatment to inform our public health policies. But that is not so. Despite criticisms from international rights organisations over many years, Australia has still not met its commitment to provide primary prevention strategies to combat the incidence of child maltreatment. The ACMS seeks to change that.
Show Notes:
https://webpublic.acu.edu.au/staffdirectory/?Daryl-Higgins=
Research conducted by Vanessa Mocibob.
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In an effort to promote a simpler family law system and safer outcomes for families and children, the Federal government has proposed a suite of changes to the Family law Act, one of which is the abolition of the ‘presumption of equal shared parental responsibility”. But what is the ‘presumption of equal shared parental responsibility’? How did it come about? What happened between 2006, when it was first introduced, and 2023 that has prompted its abolition? And what will replace it?
Show Notes:
Speakers:
Justine Clark, Principal, Tisher Liner FC Law
Lawrence (Lawrie) Moloney, Adjunct Professor, School of Psychology and Public Health at La Trobe University
Law:
Family Law Amendment Bill 2023 (Cth)
MRR v GR [2010] HCA 4 (3 March 2010)
Research conducted by Anna Mannaseh.
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In “The Importance of Being Well at Work” series we explore what it takes to maintain health and wellbeing when working in trauma saturated environments such as the children’s law jurisdiction.
In this episode we focus on the health and wellbeing of lawyers.
A lot of people attracted to law, particularly to social justice law, are passionate about their work, highly motivated and dedicated to bringing about just outcomes for their clients. But do they always know what they’re signing up for? These days we know a lot more about health and wellbeing within workplace settings than was known (or at least acknowledged) previously, but there does still seem to be a gap in knowledge when it comes to the specific impacts on lawyers who work in trauma saturated environments and what they might be able to do to protect themselves from some of the collateral damage.
Dr Carly Schrever – is a lawyer, psychologist and empirical researcher. Dr Carly has worked in and around the legal profession for twenty years. Since 2015 she has focussed specifically on judicial and lawyer wellbeing. Together with her colleague Sally Ryan, Carly established “Human Ethos” - a business that helps judges and lawyers find greater satisfaction and wellbeing in their work – both through individual services and/or tailored group and consultancy work.
Show notes:
Dr Carly Schrever’s PhD Research on judicial stress in Australia,
Studies referred to in this episode,
Occupations and the Prevalence of Major Depressive Disorder
Stress Levels Across The UK - Protectivity Insurance
Lawyering Stress and Work Culture: An Australian Study – UNSW Law Journal
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Being involved with the child protection system can be a scary and daunting experience for families. Victoria Legal Aid’s “Independent Family and Advocacy support” [IFAS] was a pilot program created to assist those involved in the early stages of the child protection system by offering support, non-legal advocacy, and referrals for families to legal services and other supports if required. Several years down the track, the program is being rolled out across the State with noted benefits not just to parents and children involved in the system, but to the professionals who work with them as well.
Victoria Legal Aid’s “Independent Family and Advocacy support” [IFAS] was a pilot program created to assist those involved in the early stages of the child protection system. The program, originally fully funded by Victoria Legal Aid, was implemented to assess and demonstrate the efficacy of non-legal advocacy for families with the hope that families could be diverted away from the court system. The pilot ran from 2018-2021 in LGAs of Darebin and Moreland and suburban Melbourne and Bendigo and Ballarat and was so successful it attracted Victorian government funding until June of 2024. Some of the key findings of the Final Evaluation Study were that IFAS helped parents understand the child protection processes better, helped them speak up for themselves and stand up for their rights, supported them to express themselves in a way that improved communication with chid protection workers and ultimately helped them work cooperatively with child protection to support their children.
Given June 2024 is advancing upon us, the fate of the program at this stage is unknown but the hopes are that it will become a permanent fixture of the child protection system and be available to families Statewide.
In this episode we speak to Isla Swanston, lived experience consultant and Robyn Buchanan, the manager of Independent Family and Advocacy Support [IFAS] about their involvement in the program, what it has to offer and what we can expect from IFAS in the future.
Show notes:
Final Evaluation of Independent Family Advocacy and Support (IFAS) Pilot Final Report,
September 2021, Dr Chris Maylea, Lucy Bashfield, Sherie Thomas, Associate
Professor Bawa Kuyini, Professor Susie Costello, Dr Kate Fitt,
Meena Singh
Social and Global Studies Centre, RMIT University
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-04/vla-final-evaluation-of-independent-family-advocacy-and-support_1.pdf
IFAS final evaluation summary, Victoria Legal Aid
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-04/vla-final-evaluation-of-ifas-summary.pdf
Independent Family Advocacy and Support https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/independent-family-advocacy-and-support
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What is a ‘psychological parent’? Why is it all the rage at the moment and what potential implications can it have for litigation in the child protection jurisdiction?
Contemporary, sociological definitions of “parent” can include the notion of ‘psychological parent’ - where a person is not related to the child biologically or even by adoption but has formed a psychological bond with the child and, therefore, considers themselves (or, is considered to be) a parent of that child. Since the 2019 High Court decision of Masson v Parsons, the concept of ‘psychological parent’ has worked its way into the legal lexicon. Sometimes it’s uncontroversial, but at other times, the question of whether somebody is a parent or not can become a hotly contested space. This is particularly so in the children’s court jurisdiction where children removed from their parent’s care pursuant to court order and placed in the care of a foster carer or member of the family can over time develop strong bonds with that carer. So where does that leave biological parents in their often David & Goliath battle to get their children returned to their care?
Sources:
Joel Orenstein
https://www.orenstein.com.au/our-team/
Dr. Angela Delle-Vergini
Children, Youth and Families Act 2005
https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-10/05-96aa136-authorised.pdf
Masson v Parsons [2019] HCA 21 (19 June 2019)
Re: JH [2021] VChC 2
https://www.childrenscourt.vic.gov.au/file/re-jh-2021-vchc-2
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High quality, healthy and happy carers lead to better mental health outcomes for children in out of home care but what support do we give carers to undertake their role and is there more we could be doing?
There is no doubting there is a persistently growing population of children in out of home care. The community relies on carers – whether they be foster carers or kinship carers – to provide a safe, stable, supportive home for them. It almost goes without saying that having high quality carers who are happy and healthy will lead to better mental health outcomes for the children who are in their care, but research would suggest that the carer role itself brings with it a whole host of issues that detract from carer wellbeing, and this is likely to have implications for the children in their care. Moreover, as a community, we aren’t particularly good at supporting carers to undertake their role. In this episode we are fortunate to speak with Dr Josh Fergeus, who has undertaken a load of research in this area and whilst he doesn’t have all the answers – no one ever does – he knows better than most people what it takes to create a safe, stable and happy home for a child in out of home care.
Sources:
Dr. Josh Fergeus
https://www.joshfergeus.com.au/#overview
Charter for Children in Out of Home Care
https://services.dffh.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2017-05/Charter-for-children-in-out-of-home.pdf
Kevin Heinz Grow
https://kevinheinzegrow.org.au
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In 2021 the Victorian State Government proposed a suite of changes to the Children's Youth and Families Act, among them a 'no-fault' ground for statutory intervention which would allow the government to intervene when a child is at risk, regardless of whether a parent is at fault.
In this episode Helen Dale, children's law specialist, discusses some of the pros and cons of a no-fault ground for statutory intervention including whether it could promote a less adversarial approach to child protection litigation. Opinion is divided. Some say it will assist in the resolution of matters. Others remain concerned that a no-fault ground for statutory intervention will give the government even greater power over families and resulting in arbitrary intervention into what is recognised, at law, as the fundamental group unit of society.
Show notes:
This episode’s speaker is Helen Dale of Dale and Younis - https://www.daleandyounis.com.au
For the law nerds, this episode makes reference to:
Victorian Charter of Human Rights
Children Youth and Families Act 2005
Children, Youth and Families Amendment (Child Protection) Bill 2021
Recent supreme court authority: DE (a pseudonym) v Secretary of the Department of Families, Fairness andHousing [2021] VSC 691
Research for this episode was compiled by La Trobe Law student Dana Popovic.
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"In Conversation" is a parallel series where we invite lived experience speakers to come share our stories with us.
In this episode, Leigh Pappos, lived experience advocate gives us insight into the impact her parent's drug use and itinerant lifestyle had on her as she was growing up. You may recall episode one when we interviewed Leigh about the evidence she gave at the Parliamentary Inquiry into Children Impacted by Parental Incarceration. Leigh is living proof that those impacts are wide-reaching and very far from temporary. Yet, in spite of that, she has a message of hope for all children and young people who find themselves in a similar situation.
This is a not to be missed episode.
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"In Conversation" is a parallel series where we invite lived experience speakers to come share our stories with us.
In this episode, Jeanie Dean, director of 'Safeguarding Solutions' talks to us about her challenging childhood and how it motivated her to dedicate her working life to the protection of children. She also talks about the real cost of trauma, the benefits of hiring and retaining lived experience people in the workplace, and how to create safe work environments for them.
This is a not to be missed episode.
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Currently, in the family and federal circuit courts, children’s voices in
post-separation proceedings tend to be communicated through third parties such as an
Independent Children’s Lawyer or (‘ICL’s’). But is this the same as giving the child a voice or does more work need to be done to promote children’s voices in decisions that impact directly on them?
Adjunct Professor Lawrence Maloney and Jeannie Dean, Director of Safeguarding Solutions join us to discuss proposed changes to the Family Law Act 1975 proposed by the current government. Some of these amendments would see a change in the way Independent Children’s Lawyers represent children in post-separation proceedings. But do the proposed changes go far enough? Whilst it is the role of the ICL to make recommendations to the court in the best interests of the child, this shouldn’t be confused with giving the child a direct voice in the proceedings. The speakers in this episode emphasise the importance of getting this right to prevent re-traumatisation of the child and to promote less adversarial outcomes.
Show Notes
The Speakers are Jeannie Dean, Director of Safeguarding Solutions Australia
and
Professor Lawrence Moloney
https://scholars.latrobe.edu.au/lmoloney
https://scholars.latrobe.edu.au/lmoloney/publications
This episode refers to the following:
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child
Guidelines for Independent Children’s Lawyers
Family Law Act 1975
Exposure draft Family Law Amendment Bill 2023
Submission to the Attorney-General’s Department by Lawrence Moloney Phd and Bruce Smyth Phd on the Family Law Amendment Bill 2023 Exposure Draft
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In the words of Fiona Patten MP, Chair of the Legislative Council Legal and Social Issues Committee, children impacted by parental incarceration are “the invisible victims of crime. They serve a sentence alongside their parents, an experience that may affect them negatively for the rest of their lives.” Whilst we know regrettably little about this vulnerable cohort of children, the Inquiry into Children Affected by Parental Incarceration, published in August 2022, highlighted the plight of these children, giving rise to an essential question – given we cannot ‘unsee’ what we now see, who will take responsibility for these children and when?
The Inquiry into Children Affected by Parental Incarceration, published in August 2022, brought the community’s attention to a vulnerable cohort of children whose lives can be changed irrevocably and forever by the incarceration of one of their parents. Given the rising prison population in Victoria, we spoke to lived experience advocate, Leigh Pappos and leading academic, Catherine MacKinnon about what those children can expect to experience and what we as a community need to do in order to ensure they are not ‘serving a sentence’ alongside their parent.
Show notes:
The Report
https://new.parliament.vic.gov.au/4a4cea/contentassets/c5301ed866b64611a2a6f4979865e991/lclsic-59-11_children-affected-by-parental-incarceration.pdf
Assoc. Professor Catherine Flynn
https://www.monash.edu/medicine/spahc/socialwork/about/our-people/flynn
https://new.parliament.vic.gov.au/4a4d23/contentassets/57dc86234cbc40c18f0fe4b294514462/submission-documents/027-dr-catherine-flynn_redacted_.pdf
Shine For Kids
https://shineforkids.org.au
Parenting Inside Out
http://www.parentinginsideout.org
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Your hosts Arna Delle-Vergini and William Wainwright welcome listeners to the podcast and let them know what to expect.
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