Nothing But Anarchy
"Nothing But Anarchy" hosted by Chad Sanders explores and subverts sports, media, Hollywood, and culture. Chad's vulnerable and raw commentary creates a fresh podcast experience you don't want to miss. Tune in Tuesdays and Thursdays at 12PM ET on Youtube Live.
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Executive Producer: Chad Sanders
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Nothing But Anarchy
Eps. #78 Stephen A Smith & Being Innovative, Role Models & Their Actual Impact, Creative Pursuits and the "Nothing But Anarchy" Live Show Announcement
In this episode, Chad reflects on his time working in tech and the struggle of these companies to innovate similarly to how Stephen A Smith struggles to innovate. Then, he discusses the concept of role models and where those exist in his life plus announces the details of the "Nothing But Anarchy" live show on February 8th in Washington, DC!
Tune in Tuesdays and Thursdays at 12PM ET to watch the show live on Youtube. Follow @chadsand on Instagram and subscribe to the Nothing But Anarchy Youtube channel for full interviews and more anarchy!
Executive Produced by: Chad Sanders
Produced by: Morgan Williams
It's Nothing but Anarchy, the show that explores and subverts sports, entertainment, media, hollywood, a bunch of other stuff. Whatever you think is interesting, let me do it here. Welcome to Nothing but Anarchy. All right, welcome to Nothing but Anarchy. I'm Chad Sanders, let's jump into it.
Speaker 1:So today I'm going to give you all really quickly, just like a little, a little. What is this called? Like a temperature check? Okay, to just say where we're at. What's going on with me specifically?
Speaker 1:So there is so much in motion right now which is sometimes confusing to me, because I swear from, like most weekday nights between the hours of like five o'clock until I go to sleep at night, I'm like laying around, hanging out with Penny, watching TV, watching sports I'm rewatching Boardwalk Empire right now and usually on like Monday, tuesday, wednesday, sometimes Thursday nights, I'm just like laying around, like, is anything? I'm like is anything even happening? Is anything actually going on in my life? Am I doing anything? Am I busy Like am I doing enough? There's like there's a stillness that I feel sometimes that, uh, frankly, I have not totally learned how to be comfortable with, and I think living in New York for 13 years probably has contributed to that feeling where I'm like, if I'm not doing 100 things at once. If I'm if I'm quote unquote doing nothing, then I feel unsettled. I feel like I need to move, I need to do something. I need to watch this thing that informs me. I need to text this person about this project. Sometimes I start creating work for myself, sometimes I start creating work for other people, because I'm just like I just need something to be happening. What's happening? Is anything happening? So that's one thing, contrasted against what's actually happening. What's actually happening is that, in a process that will take me some amount of months, uh, I am moving from New York to DC. At this point, that's what I believe to be.
Speaker 1:So, um, I am building a team, I am building a show, I am publishing a book. I am uh trying to finish a deal with a major studio to write a TV series. I am 35 years old, trying to like redesign my life. Basically, um, we're planning a live show which I'm about to get into. I'm like everything, everything is in transition right now. My parents are also coming to town tomorrow, and so, like I don't. How do you guys feel when you're uh, nobody can actually answer me, but like when, when my parents visit or when I'm going to visit my parents, I see myself through their eyes on the days leading up, which is to say, as my parents are coming they're coming up tomorrow to visit, they're just going to come up for a night for Maryland.
Speaker 1:Um, I clean my place, I look around at my place and think what does this place say about me? Like, what do the things in this place say about me? What in this, what in this house do I need to hide or throw away? Um, what do like? Do I have enough plants or my plants in good shape? Is my kitchen clean?
Speaker 1:Do, like I have to, like try to smell everything through someone else's nostrils. Like, does it smell like penny in here? Does it smell like a dude who's been laying around on the couch in here? Does the bathroom like smell like mildew from you know, not getting enough air or whatever? Like I'm just like looking at my house through someone else's eyes. I'm going to cut the grass today even though, like there's no grass, it's wintertime, like the grass is dead. Like the leaves are on the ground, like, but I see myself through someone's eyes and then it goes. It gets wider and wider and wider from there. Um, for someone who has known me since I was a baby, which is both of these people. They've known me literally since the second that I breathe oxygen.
Speaker 1:Uh, what does this place that I'm at right now, 35 years into the journey? What does it say about what part of the story am I on? As for someone who's watching it, who's been, who's been observing it and participating it and cultivating it and trying to guide it, and you know some people who have been at, in different moments, at odds with the direction that it's going, you know my parents um, I didn't even mean to get into this, but this is good subject matter my parents said my mom, especially, was afraid for this as a career path for me, and by this I just mean like this you know, basically, chad doing what he wants to do, that let's call that the career. At first, I tried to couch it as like oh, I'm leaving Google to go work at a tech startup, but I knew that really wasn't like the whole thing Then that when I was leaving the tech startup, it was like you know, oh, I'm going to be a consultant, but what I was really trying to do was like, make a little bit of money to keep me afloat while I tried to have a creative career and then it was like, oh, now I'm trying to be a screenwriter. And then, you know, that looked very scary to my mom until Spike Lee came in and then Spike Lee could offer me.
Speaker 1:You know, spike Lee talked to my mom on the phone while we're sitting in the lobby at Netflix because I told him she was worried. And he takes my phone and he tells my mom my mom went to Spelman. My mom and Spike Lee overlapped it. He was at Morehouse and she was at Spelman, I think by a year, but they didn't know each other. She didn't know him.
Speaker 1:But like in my corner of society, like Spike Lee, he's a big deal to everybody, but like to a 60-something year old woman who went to Spelman in the 70s, that's a pretty big voucher, that's a pretty big stamp for that guy to jump on the phone and say your son's a genius, he's doing the right thing, he's going to be okay. And that gave me like a little bit of breathing room to be like you know what, to hear him say that and to hear him say it to my mom, to be like maybe I am going to be okay Because at most stops in my life, I haven't actually totally felt or known that I was going to be okay. I kind of have learned to be okay with not knowing if I'm going to be okay as a part of this whole thing. That's what this thing, that's how this thing is built Like you never get your feet totally like settled under you, and so now I'm like seven years into seven or eight years it's been.
Speaker 1:That phone call between Spike Lee and my mom was probably in 2017 or 18. It's 2024. So that was six or seven years ago and since then, my parents, my mom I'm going to be specific to say has seen, has seen me kind of blow up. You know, I'll own that for a second and that, I believe, was always something that was scary to her was the idea that I, that I would blow up, the idea that, like I think it was scary to her that maybe this whole path wouldn't work out for me. But I think what might have been even scarier for her in some ways is that it would and that that would, this would become my life Like this, this feeling like this, this being on the run. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:This like moving all the time and I remember one time I was moving every. I would move apartments every single year because I have been trying, I've had to evolve and take shape of whatever shape I need to be in for this journey and once it was probably my seventh or eighth mood in New York move in New York. I had moved, I had lived in. I started in Soho when I came here, then I was in the West Village, then another apartment in the West Village, then I went up to Harlem, then I went to Crown Heights, park Slope, bedstuy and at one and now I'm in Queens. I've been in two places in Queens. I've been in the West Village for over 13 years, probably at the sixth or seventh apartment.
Speaker 1:My mom at one point my friends were just like one of my boys. He was like I'm not going to any more house warmings for Chad. He's like this nigga moves every year. I'm not going to any more house warmings. But my mom said to me and you know when your mom says something to you it comes with like the ferocity of a thousand sons in your mind Like she might have thought it was a throwaway statement but it meant so much to me she was like. She said she was like what are you running from? And I was like, oof, that really. That, like that one really stuck to me because because maybe I was running from something Like, maybe I was running from a life that was mundane, like running from.
Speaker 1:I had a very stable suburban upbringing as a kid.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I had stability. I had the house with the two car garage and the big yard and Cub Scouts and church and piano lessons and basketball practice and all these friends and you know I had community and I had, like I had such stability that I think what a lot of people are chasing through their life is a feeling of stability, and I was born into that. So I think what I was chasing or perhaps running away from was was a feeling of stability. Now that like that run, running that way.
Speaker 1:Something else is more important than that right now, which is building, like, building, like building this thing. Like when I say this thing, I don't know if you guys can like see what I can see of it, but it's like um, this show is like one leg of of a whole environment of creative entities that have, like imagine like a hundred baby Morgans all trying to be as good as Morgan at like building whatever is their thing within the thing and like people come through here and they bring their special sauce and they tried it and they like they, they learn and they experiment and we put stuff out and we see what happens and we get smacked around a little bit by the consumer and by the industry and we just keep growing and we take care of it and we take care of each other and it keeps going and it's going and it's going and I want to build that thing. I can't do that if I'm chasing all the time. That's why I'm like this is a, this is a difficult. I don't know how difficult it is, but I'm just going to be real.
Speaker 1:I'm having to accept something which is like I have to take a step away from the chase that is Hollywood to come over here and actually build some leverage. I have to do that again. I did it in a small way before. If you chase, chase, chase, chase, chase, you're never going to write your fucking screenplay, you're never going to write your book. If you're chasing all the time, you're never going to write that op-ed, you're never going to get that idea off. You're never going to make something, telling you, but I'm telling myself like you never are going to make the thing that's actually going to get you where you want to go if you're chasing all the time and that's like, if you're running all the time like that's. That's why I have been here for 13 years until maybe the last, literally until like this year, with a few exceptions.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying all that to say that, like this is a life in transition. This is like I don't know where the like stop point is, where it's going to look as sexy and glamorous in real life as it probably does in some ways on the internet. And so my parents are going to come and see what my real life some people think like. Literally very recently, people have said to me, people in my life have said to me they think I'm like out every night, like on a dating carousel I got like this poppin social life and like I'm just like living the dream, you know, and, um, I'm certainly not living that dream.
Speaker 1:Like I was listening to a podcast a couple of times I'm having to take a break from podcasts because I'm like this is too. I have internet brain right now, but I was listening to something and they were talking about, like the dark tunnel that is building. It was Gary Vee, actually. He was talking about the five years you gotta spend locked in on your idea, before you're going to hit that big clip, like the five. He kept saying you're gonna have to spend five years eating shit, as he put it before, and I was hearing him say that and I was like this is where this is where, okay, there's this dichotomy.
Speaker 1:There's this impasse between my life. There's this annoying thing that pokes its head in as insecurity all the time, where I look at my life and I look at my friends' lives and I'm like God dang, they all have they got. They're married, they got kids, they got houses, they fucking take vacations. They got. It's like, and I know like if I put my foot in the water of what they have, like it always burns me and I'm like, fuck, I don't want this, but still it's there and it's the grass is always greener thing. And I'm like there's this head bumping where I'm always looking at that and I'm like, damn, that must be so nice, it must feel so comfortable to have all those things. They talk to these people on the phone and they're like my life is fucking, my life is in distress is what they tell me, but I can't hear that. I hear it but I can't. I don't soak it in.
Speaker 1:I go back into my life, which is, as Gary V put it, I'm in year one of the shit eat. As he put it, I'm in year one of, like this is a new thing, this is not. Look, I'm tell the story as though it is the story of this long arc journey, and maybe it is in some ways, but like this is year one of moving money around to keep this thing alive and afloat and of turning down guaranteed money so I can stay focused here. This is year one. But when I hear him say there's five years of eating shit like this, I'm like I could do five years Like it's fun. But that's the type of dream that I'm living, not the type of dream that y'all think, where I'm in Soho clinking glasses every night, like I don't have that life at all and I don't know if I'm ever going to have that life. I don't know if that life will ever fit me because when I used to go to Dumbo house, when I used to go to Soho house, when I used to go schmuck around with the socialites who were parading as creatives, like now that I look back on it, now, when I look at those people who I was sitting beside in those rooms, they're all in those same exact rooms and none of their shit is popping off because they haven't taken the step away. So I don't know, I don't know how I got here from talking about my parents, but my parents are coming tomorrow. So that's it.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to move on to the next segment, because you guys waited a long time here. All right, so this is congruent to what I just said. We're doing a live show. We are doing a live show. I'm going to look in the camera a little more while I do this, just in case it cuts well as a real. If we don't get a real out of this one, maybe we'll use Jemung Green, but I think we'll get a real out of this one. So we're doing a live show in Washington DC at Shanklin Hall.
Speaker 1:February 8th, 7 o'clock PM is when doors open. I will go on, probably at 7 30, but I think you guys will be more on time than a New York audience. But, like, please try to be on time because it's going to be. It's going to be a room You're going to get the show, of course, and we just spent some time talking about the lineup and how we want to like sequence the show and what we want you all to learn and feel and experience, and just like what we want people to get out of the show.
Speaker 1:But I will say this as a starting point on it, which is it is going to be a room full of people who I can see the room who want good for themselves and each other, who want good for me and who are comfortable with having conversations that we are not allowed to talk about outside so that we can like make that good happen for ourselves. I guess a different way of putting that is like it's going to be a room full of people who are comfortable stretching their brains, who are comfortable like looking at each other and at themselves with an empathetic and critical lens. Like that's what the room is going to be and I'm excited about it because, like I said, I'm moving to this place. I want to go, look in the face of the people who I hope, as I continue to build out this community, like the people who I hope and pray and think will be around for that. Who will be like at a what's the what is. Who will be like there you know what I'm saying Like who will just be like there. You know, when we have the studio open for people to come through and check it out, those are the people that are going to be there.
Speaker 1:I'm looking for DC creatives to help with all of this producers, writers, editors, engineers, people who have podcasters, people who, like, I'm looking for people who are going to be a part of this thing, this environment that we are building. So those are going to. Some of those are going to be people in the room, and then some of the people in the room are just going to be people who I've known forever. People who voices you heard on yearbook family friends, people I went to college with. People I went to high school. I went to college with like 11 dudes from my high school. So those people and this is such a family affair that Shanklin Hall one of the partners at Shanklin Hall, actually two of them, two of whom I went to high school with and one of them I went to high school and college with this is like this is a home game. So if y'all want to come to a home game.
Speaker 1:This is our like we did a launch party in New York, but I'm calling this like this is stop number one, tour date number one for nothing but anarchy. This is the very first time we're going to do an actual live show with segments, I think, with guests, with topical matter, all that kind of thing. And then I've said this to many people over the last year, like the dream is to eventually be like taking this thing all over the country, like that's really what I want to be doing, so stay with us. Okay, there's like this idiom or this like saying in technology, in the tech businesses, about disruption Please, morgan, roll your eyes if you've already heard this, if I'm Chad explaining it, but like basically, I'm not even talking to Morgan, I'm talking to everybody, but but Morgan's are the only eyes I can see. So there's this saying that disruption should come from within your company. Disruption should come from within, like Apple and Google and Amazon gets to stay at the top as long as they continue to innovate within their businesses, such that when the next TikTok or Vine or the next thing that could potentially disrupt their business blows up, that it will happen in-house. That's what they want to happen, because Google's bread and butter business, for as long as they've been alive, has been searched. Eventually, something will come about that is more valuable than search, and they want to be the ones who invented so that they don't go extinct in that thing's shadow. The ways that you can do that among I guess there's many subheadings to these two ways, but, like, you can invent it in-house or you can acquire it. You can make it yourself or you can buy it.
Speaker 1:So I used to at a tech startup. I used to be the head of new products, okay, and the conflict that I was always in my job was to make sure that our bread and butter business was a 19-week coding. This might actually cut really well as a real, starting from what I just said about companies, because this is gonna go all the way to Stephen A Smith. Now, my job was to innovate with a small budget such that some product or some service that I came up with or my team came up with and invented with very, very limited resources within this company like, let's say, 1% of the company's overall P&L would grow to be bigger than the Marquis product, which was a 19-week coding bootcamp. So, again, my job was to make sure that, like, if something was gonna knock our business over, it was gonna be something that we invented so that we were not always at risk of someone outside of our business taking over our market share. And eventually the coding bootcamp bubble burst, kaplan bought our company and, like, the company got crushed within years. It got destroyed. It just was dismantled. But I was already gone, I quit.
Speaker 1:The conflict I was always in at this tech startup was that it takes so much in resources bandwidth, people, money, energy, thought, time, attention Once you have an established product. It takes so much to keep that product rolling along the path right. It takes so much, so much in resources to keep that thing fed so it can grow into the behemoth that it needs to be and continue to like, knock over other things in its way that you don't have many companies don't have much left to offer to the little innovations that are happening in-house. When I worked at Google, there was something called 20% time, where you were supposed to be allocated 20% of your time as an employee to work on whatever the hell you wanted to work on, basically, and that was their way of making sure that if someone, if Chad had some, you know, inventive or creative capacity to make something else cool happen or something else dope happen, that he was gonna do it at work and not at home, so that it would belong to Google. Okay, that's what 20% time was for. I don't think that exists anymore. Where am I going with this?
Speaker 1:Let's see the headline on this. This will cut well into a reel. The headline on this is once something is established, it's very difficult for it to say, for it to remain as scrappy and creative as it needs to be to disrupt from within, and a lot of times, once things are established in that way, the only way they know how to be quote unquote inventive is to copy someone else. Who's actually being inventive? You see it all the time. You see, like you'll start to see a cool tech product you know on the market and it's developing and it's adapting. Maybe it's in beta and all of a sudden wouldn't you know it Apple has some very similar adjacent version of that same thing that they are now offering because it's copying. They just copy somebody else. Instagram did it with Vine. It's like oh, this Vine thing is happening. Well, now we have reels and now Vine doesn't exist anymore. Okay, mark, that let's keep that. This is gonna be so good if we can cut it. Good, okay, stephen A Smith is Google, stephen A for this exact job that I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1:Stephen A Smith is Amazon. Stephen A Smith is Google. Stephen A Smith is the Stagi I don't know what Stagi means, but I think I just used it right the Stagi, stale, stagi. I used it right, right. I mean, if you mean it as stale, yeah, stale, yeah, he's the Stagi, stale establishment. He gets in front of a camera and talks like a Baptist preacher. He has very, extremely, compared to most people that look like me who do this job conservative politics, he said on his show today. While talking about, while talking bad on, jason Whitlock said he has Sean Hannity on Speed Dial. They're, excuse me, he said they're in each other's Speed Dial. So Stephen A Smith is Apple.
Speaker 1:Okay, he is Google. He is the establishment. He sits in the owner's box with Roger Goodell, got it. But Stephen A Smith is watching what's happening at his job with Pat McAfee being licensed from the outside, from this world, from the wilderness, into ESPN. He's watching what happens with Bobby Altoff getting seven million followers on Instagram in over the course of weeks because of some of her interviews that she's doing. He's watching what's happening outside and he's like shit, I am not diversified enough as a product. I am in danger of being knocked over because I am not disrupting from within. I'm not innovating from within, but he's no longer innovative.
Speaker 1:Okay, he is so much the establishment, he is so much that he has to invest in keeping what he already has afloat and keeping these relationships with fucking Sean Hannity and Roger Goodell and the head that, all the people that he kind of shouts out in these little random moments on his like how much love he has for John Skipper and Bob Iger, and it's just like there's a epidemic going on right now of black people loving to shout out who their rich, wealthy, white guy friends are. Right now it's happening across media. It's very strange. I think it's like a weird form of clout chasing. I like that. Keep that in. But anyway he's been shouting out all of his like powerful friends and how I don't like why did he go out of his way to say that he has Sean Hannity on speed dial? That was so strange to me. But anyway, he is looking around and realizing that he is in danger of being knocked over by this tidal wave of digital independent media that is happening.
Speaker 1:Espn is in flux right now. Espn is in danger. We talked about it on the last episode. But Stephen Smith's like yo, I gotta have what Shannon Sharp has, which is that Shannon Sharp has multiple legs to his stool, including he has club Shae Shae, which is his. He owns it. People come on, they say what the fuck they want to. He leads them along into interesting subject matter and he doesn't have to report back to Disney to tell them whether or not he can say, whether or not those guests can say what they gotta say. Stephen A saw what we all saw, which was Kat Williams. Come on to Shannon Sharp's platform, set everything and everybody on fire and walk away and Stephen A has watched what we all have watched, which is 10, 20, 30, 40, going on 50 million people watch that interview In less than a week.
Speaker 1:Stephen A Smith this is where you see. This is what the establishment and its lack of creativity looks like. He did not even disguise it in the least bit. He said let me go on my own show and try to do exactly what Kat Williams did. It was like it is so much copying. It is such brazen copying that in the way that, frankly, apple, amazon, google will do it Like. It's so brazenly copying somebody else's formula unapologetically that it tells you we don't give a fuck about, we like, it doesn't matter to us that this is an artistic like. This is what we do. This is the formula. You do something good, we go take that exact same thing and we run it on our platform and we don't care. We run it in our system, we don't care as long as we get the clicks.
Speaker 1:Now Stephen A Smith is not getting the clicks. He's getting. I mean, like he's Stephen A Smith, so he's I. When I checked this morning, I think the episode had 350,000 views, something like that. It's not going to get 50 million views like Shannon show, but he goes on his platform and he doesn't. What I would actually say is probably a 40 minute out of his hour long show, a 40 minute attack on Jason Whitlock. Now, jason Whitlock is slimy. Jason Whitlock is gross. I'm not here to cape for Jason Whitlock, not in the absolute least bit. Like every time, I see Jason Whitlock's face pop up makes me nauseous and, like anybody, I hold space there one day like he will stop being like that, but maybe he won't.
Speaker 1:What I want to point out in copying unartistically is that I watched Stephen A's 40 minute take down of Jason Whitlock and it was not good, it was not entertaining, it was not. There is an art to the hour long diss track, like. There's an art to receipts and names and times and instances and pointing out the nuances around how someone has wronged you. There's an art to the conviction that you saw in Cat Williams as he gave his, like his tie rate, as he gave his three hour long sort of expose of the industry and of the people around him who have wronged him. And Stephen A Smith didn't like, he didn't even take a second to try to match the artistry of that. He literally, just as it looks, he just sat down in his chair. He said, hey, this worked for somebody else. Now I am going to do I don't even know where it came from. I don't like.
Speaker 1:I still, as a as a hyper consumer of sports media and as a hyper follower of these sorts of like tiffs and beefs between sports media entities, I still don't even know what Jason Whitlock did to set it off. Nothing new, I'm assuming, like I imagine, stephen A Smith just went and looked beef worked over there so I'm going to do beef over here and he tried his best with whatever he could surmise but it wasn't real Like he did. He wasn't. He wasn't boiling and simmering underneath the way that cat was Like, he wasn't thoughtful about the approach, he wasn't specific, he wasn't clever, he wasn't interesting and so it just felt, felt completely flat and where it landed me was on this.
Speaker 1:So I had a conversation with an advisor recently. We're talking about like, what can I do? We are finding some formula right now that works in terms of growth for this platform. Right, morgan nods her head in agreement. Producer Morgan says yes, that's true, morgan, who is now named Morgatron, as named by my sister. She says yes, we are finding a formula, and what I mean specifically is like we're finding both how the show goes. We're also finding how the marketing and the conversation and all dimensions of the talking to audience around the show goes. A big part of that formula is, as I've said before, publishing our reels, which give a snapshot into the conversations that are happening on these episodes, and if I talk about somebody by name, we put the name in there. If we talk, if you know, if we talk about Shaq, we put Shaq on there, we put a photo of Shaq.
Speaker 1:Shaq responds to the comment and says I hate stupid people like you. And I feel so tickled. But my advisor and I want to get this right because he was coming from exactly the right place, because I was asking him all right, I see how much money I need to put into this thing to get X amount of viewership on these things and, like, I see how that could scale up. I can only afford X amount of dollars right now to put into it, but if I had 10 X of that, would it still scale up the way I want it to? And he said, yes, you could scale that way, but another way you could scale. I'm going to strongly paraphrase what he said, but it is the heart of what he said. He said another way you could scale is beef. You could scale by starting shit with people. I'm paraphrasing okay, you could scale by starting shit with people who feel inclined to respond to you publicly.
Speaker 1:And I was in the gym when he said it to me and I felt myself, I felt what inside me like curl up into like a little crunched piece of paper. I honestly, what I honestly felt myself do was sort of like emotional protection, like I am not built for that. I am not built to conflict. Like that is so distracting to me, beef is so distracting to me, like negativity, honestly, is so distracting to me and I have way too much shit to do right now than to be like stirring up online beefs with people. However, and I'm like I'm not going to, I just I couldn't even like take it. I couldn't even find it within myself to say anything punchy back to Shaq when he said he hated me. All I wanted to do is be like hi, mr Shaq, I love you.
Speaker 3:Yes, morgan the alternative to this is you hiring some.
Speaker 1:A beef or.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like some college kid, to just fucking troll people online. I mean?
Speaker 1:I mean we have a natural beef consultant, which is Quincy, so we could certainly set that up. Another thing I thought about doing was like creating some sort of AI agent that just acts as like my, my, my beef, like my beef mercenary. But no, the truth is I don't have it in me to do it this way. Like the Stephen A thing that he just tried, like I, like Kat Williams I liked that because that was real Like he's. It felt like someone who had spent 30 years getting shit on by people who are the establishment, by people who have all the right vouchers and all the right cosigns and get all the sponsoring and marketing deals, and who he's seen steal from other people. And since that interview came out, there have been so many other creative people. Be like, no, really. Like Kat is that nigga? Like Kat gave me $1,200 when I was broke. Kat put me on this show, kat did this thing, kat did this thing for me and I love to see people cosigning this anti, you know, superstar person. But the Stephen A Smith thing is the opposite of that. That is, amazon punching down on some little startup for, like, the appearance of beef. I don't have that in me, even because I don't want to be like in public feuds and beefs and stuff like non, like that. It just sounds like anxiety in a way that I don't have space for Guys. I like to like kick it, I like to like talk about ideas and have fun and tell jokes and like make art projects. And you know, like right, I got my writer, like I was talking to my sister about this as well.
Speaker 1:I was asking my sister about role models and this is where I'm going is role models. But I was asking my sister about role models. We were talking about role models. She was actually asking me my sister has three sons and we were talking about like who were my role models growing up? And I asked her who hers were and she said, when she really boiled it down, she was like the writer of the babysitter's club, the author of the babysitter's club. And we said, like I said, we said babysitter's clubs in the bathroom, babysitter's club books in the bathroom, by the toilet and all over the house. That's where they were. But she said at that time the writer was anonymous. The writer was someone who you read their work, but you had a detachment between the work and the person.
Speaker 1:And now the most famous writers, like Roxanne Gay. If I say her name, if you know, if you've ever read anything by Roxanne Gay, you know what she looks like, like you do. If you know, you know what Stephen King looks like. You know what Tana Hasey Coates looks like. You know what I look like.
Speaker 1:I mean, like I have a camera that I asked for sitting in front of my face because I know this is part of the job. If I want to get my product to you, I got to do the rest of this stuff. Now, in that, like through all that, it is easy to get lost in all of these other layers of what it takes to get publicity and marketing around your work and forget that, like, at some point I'm still going to have to go sit in front of a computer by myself and feel settled enough and at peace enough to like do the thing that I actually do, which is right. I can't be locking horn, and that's why I say Stephen Smith is not a fucking, he's not a journalist anymore. Like he's not a writer anymore. Like he lost it, it's gone. He is Amazon.
Speaker 1:So, as I had this conversation about role models and I reached out to Morgan and I was like Morgan, do you have any role models? And she said that that question fucked her up a little bit because I was talking to my sister about it. She didn't have any role models that came to mind. I am looking at, I'm looking out in the world and realizing I don't have any role models anymore. I would have said Donald Glover, like five years ago, even less than that, and like I certainly don't look at Donald Glover as a role model anymore. So I was thinking back at like Stephen A Smith is not a role model, shannon Sharp not a role model. Like I don't. I want some of the things they have. I don't. I strongly don't want to be the person that they are.
Speaker 1:Like I I had written on this docket, which we won't get to, something like um, what is the age cut off between when it's interesting to hear I'm just going to be specific to hear a man talk about his dating and sex life, and like when it is gross, because Shannon Sharp, stephen A Smith, dion Sanders, bomani, jones, I don't like you guys insinuating that you have sex ever. I think it is, I think it is weird and you guys lean into it. You lean into it in a way that is fucking gross to me, like, and I have to imagine it's. I know it's gross to other people because they tell me as such it is. It's gross. I'm like who is Jonathan Cooper tech? He's like, who is this for? Like, who do they think is the audience that wants to hear those unks talk about their sex lives? Um, what do you guys think is the cut off on that?
Speaker 2:Oh man, I feel like, even for myself, like the cut off, sorry to say, I feel like the cut off was like 35.
Speaker 1:It's 35.
Speaker 3:I mean, I feel like it depends on, like if there's any nuance to it, like if you're like really trying to like unpack something or like figure something out about yourself, but if you're just kind of like flunting a brag or yeah, like a flaunt, like I don't need that ever, Like it's very awkward.
Speaker 1:Stephen S Smith Hill like it's, it's, it's for, it's gross, it's like. But anyway, back to the point. I need new role models. No, I wouldn't call those role models. Like Morgan, do you have any role models?
Speaker 3:So, okay, this is why this question really fucked with me, because I don't think I've talked, I don't think I've thought about it for a while. Like I think I had people that I wanted to emulate or whose careers that I really like admired. There are parts of people that I like like, for example, the, the sunny producer that has like been there from like day one. For me he's a huge loyalty guy like has worked with the same people, has like gone back like that is something that I really admire and that is something that, like, I want to like take with me. But it's like nobody's perfect and you also don't know all the parts of people. So I don't know. I feel like I had basic ones growing up, like Shonda Rhimes, specifically, was a really big one. It's not basic. I feel like everyone says Shonda Rhimes. So, going off what your sister said, I'll say the sister's grim author.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:His name is Michael Buckley. If he's problematic, I don't know, I don't know anything about. I don't know anything about him, but, um, that was like the first book that I was like really into, so I guess all that was something I wanted forever. But uh, yeah, I don't know. I was trying to think of and, okay, do you want your? Do you want your flowers right now?
Speaker 1:I'll take them. Okay, I'm your role model.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying I don't have any, but like I will say that, uh, like you're specifically, I didn't realize the effect it had until you met one of my friends I won't say which one, but before I introduced her to you, I was like I need to have a conversation because I can't introduce her to Chad, knowing there's this thing hanging over my head that like I haven't confronted her about because you're really big on, like just be honest, say the thing or whatever. So I did, because I was like I just can't introduce her to Chad and it went great and whatever, but I didn't realize that that was something that would affect me so much. Um, and then I guess, like the hard work aspect is my parents, because I feel like that's important to see growing up. But yeah, it's like parts of people, but not any one person, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So something I was saying to my sister was I felt like, especially as a little boy growing up in the nineties, I was very much like handed my role models in the crib. Like my role models were Michael Jordan, number one. Like that was the role model to have for, I think, a lot of kids. But like, if you're like a little black boy, it was almost a hat on a hat on a hat is just like here you go, michael Jordan. Like this is what you want to try to live up to. This is this is what a man is, this is what, um, success is. Success is, you know, commercials and a million dollar smile and dunking on people and chart and having people follow you around with a camera and fans and adoration.
Speaker 1:Um, I guess another one that was honestly sort of handed to me like I was, I was 13 years old when the blueprint came out and so Jay Z, like Jay Z is another one that, even as much as I see how much I don't want to be like Jay Z and don't find Jay Z to be currently appealing Um, it is hard for me to divorce my 13, 14 through 25 year old attachment to the idea of, like a rapper, a billionaire, you know, like the coolest guy, like and I was never, even I was a little I, you know I still love little Wayne. I don't feel anything. I feel about Jay Z, about little Wayne, but like Jay Z was basketball, michael Jordan, and it just felt like it was like here you guys go like, you know, be like this guy. So what is poignant left to say on this? Maybe nothing, because I'm just going to go away from it. Okay, can I say something that Jeffery just commented in the comments.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:He said as a kid I think our role models are who we want to be or the lives we want to have, but as you age, your role models are the people that pour into you and those and whose words slash ideals you keep.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. On that I will probably never. I don't know what's going to happen, but at this point in time I will continue to reflect and process on for probably forever the way that Spike Lee did a lot for me in a short amount of time and how much he didn't make me pay for it. How much he never tried to make I guess not yet, like, never tried to, like you know, pull out a receipt on the favors. It just all felt like free, it just all felt like generosity and I mean there was obviously self-interest in some of it which is like maybe I can sell a show with this guy, maybe I can, you know, get another check out of this dude, but like as a partner. You know, that's something I will hold on to for a long time.
Speaker 1:I'm having a hard time with others, like just on some real shit. Most of the time. When I've gotten close enough to work with somebody who I admired, when I really got in there, what I saw mostly was like this person is normal and they hit a lick and they found something that works for them and they just did that thing over and over and over again, and there is something to be said for that. That is admirable, and I am trying. I guess I'm doing something similar, but I can't say it's. Maybe it hasn't like blown me away in the way that. I'm just like, I want to be like that. I want to do that. All right, I got to move on. Let's talk about sports. There's some sports stuff happening, so we're going to go through these. We're going to bang them out quickly, one by one Nick Saban, pete Carroll, bill Belichick all I don't know what to call it. I don't know if we call it retired, I don't know if we call it left their jobs. I don't know if we call it. They were fired. But in this, in 24 hours, three coaches across the highest two in the NFL one, the head coach of what is the closest thing to an NFL team in college all left their job posts. They are all.
Speaker 1:I believe Bill and Pete Carroll are both in their seventies. I know that to be so. Pete Carroll was actually the oldest coach in the NFL. I think Bill Belichick was second. I have I I unfortunately, you know I mean this is. I guess this is what you come to this show for. Like I have 0% in the way of, like you know, thank you for your service and greatness and you're so inspiring Like I just, um, I don't feel that at all.
Speaker 1:I feel what I felt first was I actually did kind of like Pete Carroll. I thought there was something, something joyful about his brand of coaching. He seemed like he was having a good time doing his job. He's, he felt youthful for his age in a way that I admired and wanted to. I want to feel like that when I'm 72, doing whatever I'm doing, or 75 or however old he is. Um, I also want to say their ages and their 10 years.
Speaker 1:Like it said, bill Belichick was the coach of the page, just of the Patriots, I believe for 24 years, which is more than well. It's well over half my life, right, it's like two thirds of my life. Basically, a little, almost that much, or almost it's more than that. Anyway, um, this is not my first thought, this is my second thought. Come back to my first thought, my second thought, when I saw that all was like this compounding interest of staying at something that matters to you for a long time and that you're good at, honestly, because, like I said, I got friends that've been trying to be musicians for years and they ain't got no better and it's not happening. But, like, I got friends who've been trying to do a lot of things for years and like if you don't have the raw talent or ability to access, you're not going to like, you're not going to create it, like that's. I do think some things are gifts, some things are like how you are wired and nature. But if you have the raw materials and you stay at it for Bill Belichick's private coaching since his twenties not not probably it's, it is so he's been doing it for 50 years now. Um, I love to see the compounding interest of that because it tells me I just saw Eric Spolster get the biggest you know, the biggest guaranteed money contract for an NBA coach and NBA history. He started off in the film room in his twenties for the Miami heat. When he got his job as the head coach of the Miami heat in his thirties, when LeBron and D Wade and Chris Boss were there, he was questioned and sort of undermined as the coach of the Miami heat. He's now in his fifties. His current contract will end when he is 62.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm looking at. I used to hate looking at shit like this because I used to be like what am I going to fucking want to do for decades at a time. Now I have a feeling of like ooh, and I'm not even saying it's this specific discipline, but it's this sandbox of things that I'm playing in right now that I'm like I can stay. I can stay at this long enough to watch other people fall off. I can stay at this long enough to get real good, get the relationships, get the resources, get the discipline, get the skill set that I need so that when I'm 50, when I'm 45, when I'm 70, god willing, like that I can be great, like I can be really great. And that part I enjoy seeing. I love seeing. I'm now really starting to appreciate compounding interest on these things, because I'm also seeing it in this operation. But I'm not going to go down that path. So that was my second thought. My first thought was this get these old niggas out of here and replace them with more.
Speaker 1:D'amico Ryan's is Okay. D'amico Ryan's is the 39 year old black coach of the Houston Texans. Used to play for the Texans, used to play for the Eagles. He's an all pro outside linebacker. He has a rookie black quarterback named CJ Stroud. They're going to the playoffs together.
Speaker 1:On Saturday, cj works with Quincy. Quincy won't peacock about being CJ's trainer. I don't know why, but he won't do it but I'll do it for him. Like, more of that. More please, don't just try to go reaching the box and start and start like start this long cycle of failing until you're good. That we just did with Belichick and Pete Carroll and Nick Saban. Belichick got traded as a coach before. He was great for the Patriots and you know when he got great. When Tom Brady got great, you know when he was asked when Tom Brady was gone. That could be a fun, real, awesome Like.
Speaker 1:If you give certain people enough, if you give people who are maniacal about work ethic enough chances to try to be good with some minimum level of raw materials, they can be good. They can even be great. If you get enough bites at the Apple, if you get enough shots at it, like we have seen directors become better over time. With enough shots at spending other people's money, at getting good at it, you want to like. The dream for all talented people is to be able to learn on the job, to be able to learn how to be a screenwriter while writing for a TV show. That was my experience Learn how to be an author while writing a book. You know that's what you want. I want to see.
Speaker 1:I was so happy to see these people get the fuck because, god willing, maybe one black person, maybe one young person of color, will get a shot at one of those jobs, one of those prestigious jobs Alabama, the Seahawks, the Patriots and they will get to do what Eric Spolstra has done, which is learn on the job long enough, stay with it long enough, to the point where you are thought of in that conversation. I would love to see that happen. I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think that Mike Vrable will probably get the Patriots job. I have no idea who's going to get the Alabama job, because I don't know enough about college football to really have a take on that. Who's going to get the Seahawks job? Ew, I think the Seahawks job is probably going to go to the Lions offensive coordinator. I think his name is Gus Johnson and Ben Johnson, one of those things. And it's just like you get like one millisecond of like joy to watch the Old Guard kick rocks and then, following that moment, you're like, oh fuck, they're going to try to anoint another one of these Kyle Shanahan's as the guy to replace those guys.
Speaker 1:But please, let it just not be that. I like to hold on to hope that it will just not be that. So thank you for your service. Guys, get out of here, all right. Does that mean Morgan? No, okay, good, you're giggling. You said thank you. I did say thank you. Morgan also just thinks that you can just laugh in. There's so many things you can laugh at any moment. Why that bothers you? No, I like that, you. But when you are asked was funny, like, isn't it? Don't you think it's a reasonable ask for someone to be like what are you laughing at when you're just laughing at anything?
Speaker 3:I don't know, sometimes you answer the phone funny.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, with that said, let's talk. Listen, nope, I got more basketball. Then we're going to do Gen Gen Z news with Morgan, because Morgan gave me an excellent Gen Z news update a couple of days ago Maybe that was Tuesday. Do you remember what you gave the?
Speaker 3:update. You gave me yeah, you want me to share it now.
Speaker 1:Not yet Soon. Actually, there's a couple funny Gen Z things you've done in the last 48 hours. Shams Charania, who is, as I will remind you, represented by Clutch Sports, which is the sports agency that also represents LeBron James, dreymon Green, dijonté Murray, zach Levine, miles Bridges, ben Simmons, rich Paul. Sports Agency represents Shams Charania. Shams Charania is a journalist. The agency reports that there's a Netflix doc on the NBA coming out, like Quarterback Docuseries. Quarterback was the Docuseries that Netflix released, season one of produced by the Mannings or produced by Peyton Manning's production company. It featured Kirk Cousins, marcus Mariota I forgot who else Some other very boring quarterbacks, but it was entertaining because I enjoyed.
Speaker 1:I like access to seeing what pro athlete lives are like. You see, when you have a job that is so demanding in a way that your life has to be scheduled with such a discipline for you to be up at seven, like for you to be at your peak performance level at 7.30 PM at night, or four o'clock PM on Sundays, or whatever it is. As a pro athlete, I'm very interested in looking at what a life of, looking at what a life of like that sort of discipline looks like on the outside. I'm very interested in how these people are able to man. I'm a hero when I see TV. Let me fucking finish the headline. So in this NBA show they're going to feature LeBron James, who you guys know I love Jason Tatum, Jimmy Butler, anthony Edwards and DeMontes Sabonis. For those who do not follow the NBA closely LeBron James, lebron James, you know that guy. The guy at him is the young star of the Boston Celtics who I hold would be a much bigger star if he had, if he had, a little more like charisma in his voice and a different look on his face sometimes and like maybe a different haircut. He's phenomenal. By the way, last night he he's averaging, I want to say 34. Damn, I just had it. It was 34, like 34, six and six on 55, 55, 89, shooting something like that.
Speaker 1:Over the last five games I watched the Celtics beat the. The Celtics were down nine against the Timberwolves last night. It's probably the best game that I've watched this year. So the Celtics without Kristoff Spurs and Angus against the T Wolves without Rudy Gobert, which means both teams without their interior rim protectors and both teams have phenomenal wings Anthony Edwards on the Timberwolves and then Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum on the Celtics and like a. Those guys, knowing that there's nobody at the rim to protect the rim, created like a spectacle of like wing dribble moves, just all kinds of crazy crossovers, spin moves, reverses, like um, euro steps, counters, like just it was and it was. It went to the wire. Both teams played great. The Celtics are undefeated at home, so they were trying to protect that record. The T Wolves are the number one seed in the West, so they were trying to make a statement.
Speaker 1:Anthony Edwards, a hundred percent, is fitting the bill as sort of the next superstar, the next American born superstar, up in the NBA. Every time he gets the ball he is square to the rim and it looks like I think of like a Python, um, or like a Cobra that's facing you like dead on and it feels like at any moment it could strike you, so you just have to like back away from it. That's what Anthony Edwards looks like when he's dribbling. He's always squaring. He's got big ass shoulders, so he's like a football player, but he's like always squaring his body back up to the rim so he can do something. I wish Jason Tatum would do that more. Honestly. Jason Tatum likes to. He likes to play with his food a little bit sometimes, but Celtics were down nine Looked like the Timberwolves were going to give him a first home loss.
Speaker 1:There were three minutes left and I don't know if y'all have ever played Madden. But when you play Madden and you play against the computer, on all Madden, the computer just starts making weird shit happen. In the like you miss an easy field goal, it gets blocked. Um, somebody will jump out of nowhere and intercept your pass. The computer settings will just find a way to make you lose. When it's on all Madden and the Celtics went into all Madden mode against the Timberwolves in those last three minutes. It was like T wolves you are not allowed to make a shot, you're not allowed to get a rebound, you are not allowed to dribble toward the basket. Every shot that the Celtics take that will go in or they will get an offensive rebound. Um, it was just awesome and that's why the Celtics are going to win the championship.
Speaker 1:But Jimmy Butler is also in this show. We're going to find out if Jimmy Butler is actually interesting or if it's like he's right on the line sometimes, like he is clever. He can be fun, but he sometimes has the look on his face of someone who thinks he is more clever than he is. And, um, I like to see what's really up with people like that. Anthony Edwards, who I spoke on Demontus Sabonis, that is an unusual pick for this show, like he's a uh. Demontus Sabonis, I want to say, is Lithuanian, but don't hold me to that son of our Vita Sabonis, former Kings. I'm sorry for Portland Trailblazer star. Um, demontus Sabonis is also going crazy in the last few games. He looks like he's going to be. He looks like he could be all NBA for real, for real, but he's probably just going to be an all star. Okay, I'm going to watch that show. What was I going to say before I finished reading the headline though? Oh, it doesn't look fun to be married to a professional athlete. Morgan nods along.
Speaker 3:It's not where I thought you were going to go, but yeah it looks.
Speaker 1:It looks pretty terrible, um, in these shows. Now, mind you, these shows are puff pieces Like. These shows are PR, and if Sean Staremia is reporting this and LeBron James is in it, you can bet that LeBron James's production company is producing this show, and that is how I know it will not be as good as you guys think it's going to be, but that's fine, I'll still watch. It'll probably be the best thing LeBron produces. But these shows are meant to be PR for these athletes and the leagues that they're in. Like, if one of these guys is in a scandal, they will, they will, like step over it so quickly and so lightly so that it doesn't actually take any space on the show.
Speaker 1:The point of the show is to make these people look good and yet, and still, like they're they, they, they, they pick their families as these very like, sort of like wholesome units of American dreaminess. And that includes, like, um, the wife in the house with nice clothes on and, you know, hairs laid, or whatever white women call it for their hair when it's laid, and the wife always has a baby in her hand or she has a child. That is, like so excited to see their dad because they never see their dad. And you're laughing because this is so like um, the. It's like the wife is presented in these shows about athletes as wife, like they're pretty much nameless they are, they are a Kutrimon. They are like in in in the Netflix show. It's like, oh, so funny that Kirk Cousins wife picks his outfit for him. Like that is a job for the service. Like that is a job for staff If you can't pick your own clothes. Sorry, I'm Chad, check your fucking tone Talking about people's wives, but I'm not though. I'm really talking about these shows. And in the dolphins show they make all this big song and dance spectacle around Tyreek Hill, like settling down and getting engaged, and here's his wife and Don't know her name, nameless um. And then the headline that follows like three weeks later is Tyreek Hill has three babies on the way at the same time.
Speaker 1:Okay, pits, just paid attention to the women in these shows, like paid to. Like in the little in the moment, in the windows that they offer us to See what these people lives are like. I'm gonna go a little more balanced here. Like what I actually just see is, um, I Just feel like I'm looking at people, I'm looking at a look on the face and I'm like this person had bigger dreams than this. This person is A part of someone else's story. Like do they have a story? Like, do they have interests? Do they have anything else? Like it's. I'm not doing a great job of explaining it, but it is clunky and it is clumsy and it is a little bit uncomfortable. If you pay any attention to the partners of the athletes in these shows, do you guys know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. The funny thing is, when you were talking about the, you know when they, whenever they have any footage of the family, I literally have the same picture of my head of like you see you it's called. You see the athlete sitting in their living room on the couch. There's a window over here and the sun is shining in on the right and the kid comes running around from the other side of the sofa and he's so excited to see his kid, who he hasn't seen in six months Because he's been on the road the entire time. And it's literally the same thing in every single one of these, in every single one of these pieces and, yes, even the craziest part is the one I actually have pictured in my mind is with Tom Brady and Giselle Bunchin, who has a whole ass career of her own, and I still can only think of her when the moments of their family Together in this one shine.
Speaker 2:In this one moment, yes, in this one. I don't even remember what it was like. I don't think it was hard knocks, but it was something it was like. What was Tom Brady? Self-produced? See you, see you remember.
Speaker 1:It was.
Speaker 2:Something like that and it just looks so stilted and something out of a hallmark move like you know. It was just yeah, like you learned nothing about these people. I'm like if you can take this superstar model who has all this stuff going on and reduce her down to Furniture yes, like that's what.
Speaker 3:But I'm also interested in Charlotte just mentioned Savannah in the comments as well, but like I don't know, I feel like people know Savannah James like, yes, obviously in with LeBron, but like I would be, I'll be interested to see if she's a side role or if she kind of gets to be in Her own lane a little more.
Speaker 1:I think so, if we go, if we go even a little bit, Also oh wait, really quick.
Speaker 3:This kind of leads into Gen Z but on tick-tock there's a whole world of wags who are like getting ready to go to the basketball game and like whatever, and I feel like if you like dressing up and you like going to nice dinners, it might be a blast.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 3:I think there are people.
Speaker 1:They're definitely, they're definitely women who love so, okay, I, I I have insight here. I have. I have known some of the aforementioned parties and and they have dreams, like they have stuff that they want out of life and, as I see it, these Men, as I see it, I ain't one of them, but, like these guys are vehicles that can be utilized to potentially grab out those dreams. Um, what a cost to pay, like to be married to someone that you, some people, want this, so, like you said, to be married to somebody that you don't see, like 200 nights out of the year, to have children at home without Another parent, in a way that you it's not like you're single, like it's not like you're like a single parent, you are a married parent, but you do that. You are the childcare.
Speaker 1:Um, oh, gotta be careful. You talk about people's wives. Man, you gotta be, you gotta be care, and I and I say that exactly as I mean it, which is to say I don't want to be careful how I talk about people but men get very, very, very ego bruised within themselves, having nothing to do with their partner, when you talk about their partner who they think they own. So I'm going to tread lightly because I am not cat Williams. But um, do you guys remember something that Savannah James has said?
Speaker 3:What do you guys remember?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Savannah James has said absolutely not no me neither. Don't you think that's ironic considering?
Speaker 3:Sentence LeBron has said in my defense Okay, let me ask that differently.
Speaker 1:Do you think you know Savannah James's point of view? No, do you think you know LeBron's?
Speaker 3:Sure, yeah dude, I mean honestly, I mean probably not, cuz it's probably it's probably been through a filter wash through a Mazzillion layers.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me just make the point instead of asking rhetorical questions. The point is like we see Savannah James, we see her, we are shown her as a part. We are being sold a power family like we are being sold a power couple even. Like we are being sold um a Family. You, you guys, are baiting me to talk about LeBron and I'm not gonna do it. You baited me, morgan, you sort of did um, let me.
Speaker 1:The point is just this man, let's just watch, let's just see what women look like in these shows. Let's just I mean, the show didn't come out yet and I guess I said LeBron James is likely to likely producing. I bet that's already in the press release. I haven't. I didn't go back and dig for it. But like, if the reporter who works for LeBron is reporting it, if LeBron is in it, you better in this part I admire about LeBron, like you better believe he is getting a check for executive producing this shit as well. Like, or else, why would fuck what I even, why would I even fuck around? Is he producing it? I, they just make the big dick. Ah, now, I'm just being hypercritical. I'm like, damn, they do really just make the relationship between athlete and family look so you know what it is. When the guy comes into that living room, it feels like they don't know each other. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:Do you agree with that? Oh yeah, like it felt, I mean going back to Tom Brady thing. I mean Tom Brady didn't even look like he knew anybody in that room. Like it was really Bizarre to see, like how I mean, if you ever see him in the locker room, he looks like he's at home. He's at home, he's dapping everybody up. My guy, he's hugging everybody up. He looks so like out of his element, uncomfortable in his own living room with that sunshine, signing in like it was just.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm watching Boardwalk Empire right now and like there's all these World War one I think vets home in the show, yeah, and they're like exactly. Get to know their families and their wives again and stuff and it's like when these quarterbacks, nba players, walk into a room with their family.
Speaker 3:Yes, do you want me to ruin this for you? So bad?
Speaker 1:He's not producing it.
Speaker 3:No, no Sprayhill's producing it. Yeah, of course, but so someone else?
Speaker 1:Savannah.
Speaker 3:President Barack Obama.
Speaker 1:So now I can't I was gonna say you go watch it now. I'm like what I'm like dog, just making a commercial. Just make an advertisement like why do we need a whole doctor?
Speaker 3:series like, and also Peyton Manning's Omaha production.
Speaker 1:How they cuz they general. I mean guys, come on any production.
Speaker 2:Who's gonna? How many times are you gonna divide up the pie in that, like? That's like, how many?
Speaker 1:produce. Netflix is probably paying a fortune for it. They must be. That is a lot of ways to split the pie.
Speaker 3:That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:That's too funny, Okay so what we're gonna do when this dude doesn't have a release date. No, you gotta be fucking kidding me, Okay so?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the name and release that are not yet.
Speaker 1:All right, when we come, when it comes out, we are going to do an anarchy analysis of every episode of this show the way that gender is presented and wives as a kutrimon. All the ways that it is not interesting because of the people involved producing it. All the ways that it's a commercial like and listen, I, I honestly think I'm pretty, I think I'm pretty good at this. If it comes out and it's not how I'm saying it's going to be I will admit that it's good and I'll be like this is pretty fire.
Speaker 3:But I'm supposed, as a real, very specific to my name is Chad Sanders, I will do that.
Speaker 1:But I promise y'all, like it is going, like you said, it will be washed through 20 dozen filters and it's just gonna be like what? Yeah, so all right, great, whatever, fuck it, all right. Last thing here Genzi news. Genzi news is a funny segment. Okay, we're gonna do a few things for here. We're really quickly here in Genzi news, warner Brothers, the studio that owns the rights to the Sopranos, is releasing this every episode of the I'm sorry, a 25-second tick tock of each episode of the Sopranos. Sopranos which, by the way I don't know if I already made this joke, but a 25-second tick tock for an episode is a trailer. Like that's what that is is a trailer. I Go back and forth in this. I will consume any Sopranos content that you offer me, for the most part, but also I hope this actually inspires people to go watch the show, because so much of what's great about the show is it's the in between stuff. It's the stuff, but like it's getting to know the characters through their weird idiosyntricities idiosyncrasies.
Speaker 1:La la, la idiosyncrasies it's just getting to know them as weirdos and so much as the weirdo shit happens like in between the plotline. So that's something, but just a reminder. I can't believe the obamas are producing that. I'm sorry, but like that's so boring, are you kidding me? Like what I mean? Like what? Like what do they have to offer to the project? Money, maybe they don't need that. Netflix has the money, don't?
Speaker 2:defend them. I have a theory. Yes, I was thinking like why do they need so many production people behind this? Because I was, but I thought about them like there's like four names behind this, right before order. Well, if you think about it, it's just like LeBron James is probably a producer on it, because he's gonna probably be in charge of filming all this stuff, and they probably have like a production team for each one of those. So maybe there's somebody that's like closely related to, well, obama, that's somehow connected to at least one of those players, because I'm thinking like you have Omaha, maybe for one person, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking out loud. I think Omaha owns the franchise. Because they started with quarterback, I knew like of course LeBron is not doing it If he's not producing. I'm just like, why do we need the like what? I don't. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:You do that by himself.
Speaker 1:He definitely could, but I think I do think the franchise now has value because the quarterback was. I think it was a hit. Okay, gen Z news. So Morgan sends me a text. This is really just two funny things Morgan has done, which we're gonna call Gen Z news, because Morgan is.
Speaker 3:I'm bummed because this is coming gone so quickly, but let's just bring it up well.
Speaker 1:What you sent me was oh, where is it? Oh we have too many texts.
Speaker 3:Do you want me to find it?
Speaker 1:No, you said, you said 729 am. Oh, that was yesterday. Oh my god, that was literally yesterday was it 729 am. Yesterday.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay. Wow time is time flies great.
Speaker 1:But also doesn't, because I was a yesterday. Okay, morgan texted me at 729 yesterday. She says I have Gen Z news 730 in the morning. She says from the Golden Globes, people talking a video of Selena and Taylor Swift, whispering that they were talking about how Kylie told Timothy Shalameh. First of all, this is all. So, gen Z, he couldn't take a picture of Selena, but I just came across this tick tock from this girl who apparently runs the red carpet and she was the one who told Selena she couldn't take a picture with Timothy Shalameh.
Speaker 1:This is before I'm awake. By the way, all of this is happening while I'm unconscious. That's at 730 am, 738, 735 am JK. It's not real. I hate the internet. That's item number one. Thank you, morgan. Um, item number two is I was in here you can bleep out, please bleep out the name of this but I Was in here drinking out of a cup. That is just a cup that I read. It's a plastic cup that I reuse to put my coffee in. I come in here after the show's over and Morgan says to me when the show's over, she says Look at her face, yeah. She says you can't be drinking out of a cup and I'm like, oh yeah, I know I heard something, something's up in and I was like what's the deal with that thing? Again and she goes Well, I'm not exactly sure, which is just Jin Z. In an absolute nutshell is like Don't do this bad thing. Well, wait, why is it bad? I don't exactly know. Defend yourself, morgan.
Speaker 3:I can't really defend myself with this thing. I should have googled that by now.
Speaker 1:But it's fine, I still have it. But I have also heard I'm not supposed to drink. I think it. I mean I know it has something to do with okay.
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Speaker 3:You.
