Nothing But Anarchy
"Nothing But Anarchy" hosted by Chad Sanders explores and subverts sports, media, Hollywood, and culture. Chad's vulnerable and raw commentary creates a fresh podcast experience you don't want to miss. Tune in Tuesdays and Thursdays at 12PM ET on Youtube Live.
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Executive Producer: Chad Sanders
Producer: Morgan Williams
Music: Marcus Williams
Nothing But Anarchy
Eps. #84 iHeart Podcast Award Nomination, Jay-Z's Grammy Speech Dissection, Knowing When to Leave the Party, Killer Mike's Arrest, Klay Thompson and the Fascination with Downfalls
Chad has rebounded from his man cold and delves into Jay Z's Grammy speech, knowing when to leave the party, Killer Mike's arrest, his great hope for Kanye West's next stunt, Klay Thompson and Acceptance.
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Executive Produced by: Chad Sanders
Produced by: Morgan Williams
Alright, welcome to Nothing by Anarchy. I'm back on my feet and I'm so glad Morgan just made fun of me before we started the show because I was so pathetic. Last week, on Thursday, when I was here, we put out, morgan sent me a clip of myself being sick last week and I was so sick and delirious. It was supposed to go on my stories and I put it out as a real with no Anarchy branding on it, because I was just so sick and disgust-o. I could feel. I felt while I was out last week I could just, I could feel fuck niggas celebrating everywhere because I was down and I'm back and the live show is Thursday and I'm so excited Sub-side, fuck niggas. Alright, I'm back. Okay, I'm at 98%. I was still coughing up phlegm last night.
Speaker 1:Alright, this is what you listen to the show for. Okay, I'm trying to find. Oh, I know where it is. I know where it is. I know where it is. Let's just let's come on. You guys know what we're here to talk about today, right, morgan? You knew, I knew. How did you know Morgan?
Speaker 2:Because anytime someone says anything against the thing that they're at, I feel like you appreciate it or you're interested Not necessarily appreciate, but you're intrigued.
Speaker 1:Let me describe what I saw. That's well said, morgan. I am indeed intrigued. Oh, before I do that, a note. Okay, oh, josh, I don't know if I told you this, but Direct Deposit was nominated for-.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just found out.
Speaker 1:How'd you see that?
Speaker 3:No, Morgan told me when she came through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what was it nominated for? Best Finance Podcast.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't know. I didn't know exactly what the nomination was for Something like that, but I was hype.
Speaker 1:Direct Deposit. I'm hype too. Direct Deposit, which came out in October of 2022, is now nominated for an iHeart Podcast Award at South by Southwest for Best. I believe it's like Best Personal Finance Podcast or something like that.
Speaker 2:It's the one Best Business and Finance Podcast Best.
Speaker 1:Business and Finance Podcast. It's the one they list right under the Best Podcast nominees. All the big best podcast nominees were shows like Smart List and shit like that. They have giant budgets behind them and we're going to talk about budgets we're going to get to that in a second. But I am happy I am seeing something happen in front of me and what's happening is I am seeing the what would you call this? I guess the legacy effect, the like, the compounding effect of media over time.
Speaker 1:So I'm sitting down last night to do the copyright I was supposed to talk about Jay-Z, but it's fine I was sitting down last night to do like a review of the copy edits on my book. It's like you go through the whole book is done. It's like 230 pages. You go through it and you're literally just like they're showing you every place where they deleted a space or added an apostrophe or changed the number 13th to the word 13th and you're just you have to literally review every single one and just make sure you're good with everything everything that's in your precious book. But at the top of that thing, the publisher Simon and Schuster's the publisher for me they you know they format it in a way that I wouldn't know how to format it because it's like you know. You look at the front of the book and it has all that gobbledygook that we barely ever look at that says like published in these countries by this person and printed here, and like yada, yada, yada, but at the but they put before my title page. There's something there that says um, this is the-.
Speaker 1:This is the second book by Chad Sanders. His first book is Black Magic. You know yada, yada, yada, the subtitle. And I felt I didn't expect to feel this because I'm getting excited about the book. I spent the last two years writing the book and that is difficult.
Speaker 1:Now the book is done like the thoughts and the feelings are in the book, and what happens next is basically a year of decisions to be made about how it looks, finalizing the title, filing the rights in other countries, um, optioning the rights for film productions if there's somebody wants to try to buy it, making decisions about like, press and marketing. And I'm excited because I have dedicated myself to building my own audience over this next year so that when Simon and Schuster publishes it out to their audience, I can also bring my audience to it and that there will be a combining effect. So I'm excited about rolling this thing out over the course of a year, but I didn't expect to feel excited about that first page that says this is Chad's second book and his first book is this other book. Because now someone who becomes aware of this book can go and listen sorry, go and re or listen to go and read my first book, and now we know each other a little bit better, you and I, whoever's reading. So when I found out a couple weeks ago because Morgan calls me and says hey, this guy emailed and said South by Southwest is recognizing Direct Deposit as one of its nominees.
Speaker 1:Direct Deposit is my audible show that came out in October 2022. That's like a long time ago, kind of my first response to Morgan was like, are you sure it's real?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like, did you verify?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like is this a spam? Like, is this? Because it doesn't in my head. I'm like that's curious for your thing to get recognized over a year after it came out. But I'm remembering Chanel hit me up recently, right, they say, hey, chanel, it's Chanel like, not Chanel. Like my friend from college, like Chanel that makes beauty stuff right. Or bags, bags, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, they don't make any problems, or I mean, I guess they do too. I guess they, whatever, we make everything.
Speaker 1:Chanel we love you guys, whatever no, we don't know you, but it's fine. I'm like the point is we have such a they didn't have to speak to them speak and I think all these things are happening there's an environmental effect here. We're building an environment of like I just did my first coaching session with somebody who listens to this show. Like just I just did a creative coaching session with somebody last week who listens to this show, who listened to yearbook, who went back and like it's happening, it's happening. And now what I realize is I gotta go ask people for money to make it happen faster. Like my piggy bank, I can keep making it happen slowly in $40, $50 a day over the next however many years, but like it could happen faster. And so I'm gonna start asking people for like big chunks of money to pour gasoline on the flame right now, because now I see it, now I feel comfortable asking, because for the last seven years I've just been trying to figure out like how does media make money? And I never really, I never really totally knew. All I knew was I write my little script and I go put it in this box and then HBO gives me money, you know, but I didn't know how they went and monetized my creativity and the next person and the next persons. But I get it now. So I'm excited, I'm excited. I'm also excited because I'm back on my feet.
Speaker 1:I was sick last week. It was fucking depressing. Sucks to be sick so bad, especially especially if you work for yourself. Like it just sucks. You're just laying around watching texts come in from Morgan and other people and not being able to apply your full brain to how to respond to those texts and hoping that the people around you will support you and keep things moving forward and they do. But you feel pathetic because you're not giving it back to them. You're just laying around because you're so sick. Unless Penny makes you walk her for an hour every single day, all right, who cares? Live show is Thursday in DC. How many tickets are left? Morgan Seven, are you sure it's?
Speaker 4:seven still, oh no.
Speaker 1:Because as soon as I walk out of here, I'm gonna go put a big number of the number of tickets that remain on my Instagram. But if you're listening live, six, six, look at that. That's amazing. Q sent me Quincy's so funny. Because what? Why are you?
Speaker 2:laughing Nothing. You're being great, you're being really funny today, quincy's funny because he's like this big, tough football guy.
Speaker 1:He's like rah rah rah. I've been in 50 fights in my life and he's got a beard and sometimes he's drinking something and it trickles into his beard and he looks like black, black beard and he's so like. He's such a football coach-ass head-ass right, but he will occasionally. He's also like a big teddy bear. He will occasionally say something You'll get a glimmer into. You'll get a glimpse of why he is able to connect and resonate so much with people who work in high pressure atmospheres.
Speaker 1:I put a story up yesterday and I'm in the gym. You know what I mean. I kept trying to get back in the gym while I was sick, because when you're sick, that's the other thing you realize is like all your muscles are going away and you can't eat enough calories and you can't like you're, just you're fading, like you're famous you're. It's not real, it's in your head, but it's in your head because of drugs. That's why that's really what it is. It's not the sickness as much as it's the drugs to get through the night. But I post this story of myself. I'm so excited because there's like at the time there were nine tickets left. Like there's nine tickets left. You know, when you start an endeavor like this, you're excited but you're scared. Like you're scared that you put the tickets on sale and people don't buy them. Like you're scared that the internet has tricked you into thinking people like you when they really don't. Okay, do y'all feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I totally feel you.
Speaker 1:It's scary. But then people buy the tickets and now you're like, instead of thinking about, oh God, am I about to walk in, am I about to have to go do that thing where, like you hear the stories of, like machine gun Kelly, when he was first starting, he'd be like jumping on tables in a room with five people in it like doing his performances. You're like, am I gonna have to go do that? Like amp myself up to go perform to an empty room. But now I'm like, ah, I can actually see the faces of the people in the room and the vibes. Tia's coming with us. I told my friends last night Tia was coming, tia the DJ. And they're like, oh, you guys are like really bringing Anarchy to DC. And I'm like, yes, that's the thing. Like that's it, we're going to bring our little traveling circus to your town. Like that's the thing. And anyway, so, quincy, I get a DM from Quincy after I post this story that says, hey, there's nine tickets left, whatever. And he says something like, man, it must have been really scary to do the show, not knowing if you could sell these tickets. I'm really proud of you, that's it right.
Speaker 1:And I don't think you guys. I think sometimes people under appreciate how much you just want to hear other people that you actually care about, like acknowledge you. You know what I mean, people that you actually admire, people you actually respect, because I just said this to my friend, chris Spencer, who's been on this show I called him one Sunday just out of nowhere I was just on a walk. I was actually just so happy to have my feelings back in my body that I was just like calling niggas all the time, all day, every day, for the last few days, cause I'm just like oh, my voice works again and I call Chris and I'm like yo, chris, I don't want anything. I just realized I look at your videos on Instagram every day and it makes me feel like I know how you're doing, but of course, I don't Like, cause we're not connecting, we're not talking, you're talking to the internet, you don't even know if I'm there, and so we just talk for like 15 minutes, whatever, but that's just really important.
Speaker 1:All right, who cares? I care, I care, I care. Okay, here's what I really care about, though. Should we do music? Yes, let me just, cause I need to ramp up for this. Actually, before music, you didn't start yet, right?
Speaker 3:No, not yet. You're always faking me out, though, josh is. So Always faking me out, josh, you're ready for my pump break.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Josh. Keep your feet planted on the pumping. All right, really quickly, in 30 seconds or fewer, did everybody see Jay-Z's speech?
Speaker 3:I didn't see it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I've heard parts of it, but I haven't seen it though.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, what did you think about it?
Speaker 2:Do you want me to say my thoughts?
Speaker 1:Okay, Wait, wait, wait. What's just happened, morgan? Oh, is that what I said? What's just happened? As opposed to. No sorry.
Speaker 2:I haven't figured out how I feel. Well, one I didn't like that he called his wife young lady.
Speaker 2:That really threw me for a loop. And two, I haven't decided how I feel about saying people don't deserve to be there Just because, like, I get that. That's how you feel totally, but everyone's just doing their hustle, trying to get to their goal, like. So, even if you don't like their stuff or you think someone else's stuff is better, it feels a little. It feels kind of fucked, like yeah so, but I haven't decided if that was like oh, if I think that's a totally okay thing to say, or if it was actually not.
Speaker 1:Now I'm just interested, morgan, when you say you don't know how you feel, you haven't decided, like, what will help you decide how you feel?
Speaker 2:Like, just genuinely, like thinking about it.
Speaker 1:Processing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like processing, because sometimes my knee-jerk reactions like I'm a word vomitor, so sometimes my knee-jerk reactions aren't actually how I feel. I have to think it through.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, charlotte.
Speaker 4:I think I'm just tired of people always talking about Beyonce not getting an album of the year and like I get where the sentiment comes from, but I'm also like I can't imagine being the person Like she knows she hasn't gotten an album of the year and then, like every time someone gets an award, for them to bring it up and remind her. I just feel like it doesn't feel nice. So I mean, I get that he's trying to like support his wife, but I think you know she knows.
Speaker 1:All right, Josh, and you said you saw pieces of it.
Speaker 3:I've read parts of it and pieces of it. I've got like a couple of different things that maybe are competing, but number one, like I just feel like it made me happy in the sense where I'm just like oh, there's a billionaire not afraid to just talk his shit on stage, like I like that Because billionaires, for whatever reason, are always like.
Speaker 3:You know we talked. You talked about it in direct deposit, just like at what point do you have FU money, were you just like are able to finally say the things that you want to say. On the other hand, I just kind of feel like him even being at the Grammys is at this point. It's just kind of I mean, if they invited him, they knew he was gonna, if he knew he was gonna get the award already, which I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl's coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, super Bowl's coming, but aside from that, I'm just like it's kind of beneath hope, like it's just kind of how I feel about it, Like I just don't feel like it was worth it for him to address that, but he's totally. I mean, I feel like he's totally right. Like it's crazy that she's she never won album of the year. Yeah, like that's nuts, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1:All right, I said I was ready, and then I'm like all right, let me think about what I'm gonna say. No, I'm just gonna say what I have to say, because you still don't know how I feel about this right no.
Speaker 1:Okay. So this is how I watch the Grammys by not watching the Grammys, getting a text from my mom that says hey, are y'all watching the Grammys? To me and my sister, this is pretty much every single year. It's Grammys, oscars, whatever and we're not. Or like, maybe my sister's tuning in here and there or whatever she got three kids, probably not, and this time there's a, and maybe we all do this.
Speaker 1:I watch things by being told by people that I care about when to watch something, like when to tune into something, like I trust certain people. There's certain people who will be like hey, like, turn on the Grammys, and I will literally pretend I didn't see the text. But if my mom does it, like I'm gonna. Like it's my mom, you know what I mean. Like I'm gonna, I'm going, I'm not, I'm never gonna egg my mom like that. I turn it on for like two seconds. I can't watch guys. Like it hurts my eyeballs to watch an award show. I hate it. Morgan, I'm not gonna do it. I know you're like don't do another segment on hating award shows, even though I'm about to go to an award show for podcasts. Like I like that when I'm being recognized. Obviously you know what I mean. Like last time it was really cool. I did like a really cool thing on the red carpet. I said something really interesting. I thought like it did good on socials, like the whole thing got an outfit. It was awesome. But I don't, I really don't want to watch them. They hurt my eyes because I hate when people are being fake. I hate it, I can't. It makes me uncomfortable, it makes me sad it it. It hurts me. Like I see people who I have looked up to before being fake, being small, hiding, hiding behind fakeness, hiding behind a veneer, and I wrote about this in the book that I have coming out. But like I'll just, I'm gonna just say it again here.
Speaker 1:Let me start by making the point, because I don't want to do gobbledygook, because what I saw when Jay-Z took that microphone by a master orator, someone who, when he's talking to me through his music a peon, a plebe he speaks extremely clearly and condescendingly. I saw him get up there and be scared and speak gobbledygook. He said he was nervous. Now he said it out his own mouth. So I'm not I'm not projecting nervousness on him, but I saw someone who I know to be powerful when he feels himself to be powerful.
Speaker 1:To be clear, when he feels himself to be powerful, I felt I saw that person not be powerful. I saw that person stumble over his words and I saw that person choke on the main message, which is that this shit is fucking racist. I saw that. I saw that with my fucking eyes and that's why I cannot watch the Grammys, that's why I can't watch the Oscars, that's why I look away when they show Jay-Z in the owner's suite at a football game, because I hate seeing my heroes be small. I saw him be small. I saw him not say the thing. I'm not even going to read all this gobbledygook because it's fucking gobbledygook. There's nothing meaningful in here. This is what he had to say. I'm not going to read it because it's gobbledygook. I listened to it and, josh, I even feel what you're saying. I liked it. He got up there and wanted to say the thing.
Speaker 3:Well, I just read it. Yeah, you exactly, I just read it. I didn't actually watch it.
Speaker 1:I didn't watch it. He got up there and he did not say the thing he said. Oh, he talked around it. He says. He says he says it's subjective because you know it's music and it's opinion-based. But you know some things, you know I don't want to embarrass this young lady, but she has more Grammys than everyone and never won album of the year. So even by your own metrics, that doesn't work. Think about the most Grammys never won album of the year. That doesn't work. Some of you some of you going home tonight and I feel like you've been robbed, some of you may get robbed, ha ha ha. Some of you, don't excuse me, some of you don't belong in there.
Speaker 1:Like, he talks around it and around it and around it. He makes it a Beyonce issue. I'm sorry, but I don't care if Beyonce wins a Grammy Like, because if it's about Beyonce, she don't need it Like. But if it's about the thing, then I care. If it's about, this is fucking racist, this is white supremacy. Like, if Taylor Swift wins album of the year, every time she puts out an album and Beyonce goes home empty handed, that is telling you this shit is for white people. Was that clear what I just said yes, like what you just said, what I just said? Was that clear? Yeah, why can't Jay-Z say that Like and I'm and I'm, I'm I'm not being facetious and I'm not being bombastic to make a point, I'm being dead ass. Now, of course, I know the reason why he can't because he's in a room full of people whose opinions matter to him. When he talks to me on the blueprint, when he talks to me on 444, when he talks to me on the black album, he doesn't care what I think about him. But in that room he's in a room full of people's people whose opinions matter to him. He does, he's doing the, and it hurts, it singes my fucking eyeballs because he's doing the same dance that I remember doing at Google. I met Jay-Z. I've said this before. I met Jay-Z.
Speaker 1:After Jay-Z and Beyonce's concert at whatever the big ass stadium is in MetLife, I want to say I go to a party at Dumble House afterward, small party, jay-z, beyonce, khaled Questlove I forgot who else was there. Oh, no, I don't Zoe Kravitz and her mama, that ass. Okay, me and me not as this, like, not as I'm speaking now. Me six years ago, very broke, very much wearing the same outfit every day. I've never been like a timid person, but more in a shell.
Speaker 1:Okay, my manager brings me into, if you know, dumble House. There's the balcony outside summertime. So we outside on the balcony small party not a very lively. One of the folks I just mentioned and let's say in their dates, so not Zoe Kravitz, she was there by herself with her mama, that was her date. My manager comes and gets me, he walks me into the main dining area. He walks me over to the. There's somebody by the food, so tall man by the food, grabbing right off the plates, coming out of the kitchen. My manager takes me over there. He says yo, you always buy the food. It's Jay-Z. He's sitting. My manager says Jay, I'm Starstruck, I don't.
Speaker 1:I mean like I've been Starstruck probably three times in all of this. It was meeting Jay-Z, it was meeting Kanye West and it was meeting Kim Kardashian, just by the sheer magnitude of their fame, like just by knowing that when you are around them you're sort of like at point, central, ground zero, of like American obsession. Okay, especially those other two. Take his hand and it's tall guy man, like he's like a tall limber, 50 year old at that point I guess, and his eyes are piercing through my eyeballs. Okay, this is a powerful person, I see and feel, someone who I believe has a thousand watts inside them. Is that a lot? I don't even know 10,000, 50,000, whatever. That is not the person that I saw standing on that stage at the Grammys and I just don't understand why. Why are you so powerful when you stand it, when you're shaking my hand, but so nervous when you have something real and honest that you know is true inside you, to say, in front of the people who are actually implicated, in front of the people who are actually the ones who are not voting for your black wife to win this award? And what it does to me is it? It can make you feel like you're staring into the abyss when you just are like, damn, there actually are no heroes, like there is nobody to look up to and I'm not saying Jay-Z was the one anyway, but like if Jay-Z can't stand on his two flag, where are we at? What the fuck happened to George Bush? Doesn't care about black people? Like that's clear. What is all this gobbledygook? Like what is all this gobbledygook? I'm so lost, I'm like I'm yelling. Damn it, put that in the reel and I'm yelling because I know exactly where it's gone.
Speaker 1:The Grammys for Jay-Z is roll out to the Super Bowl. Like he works with Roger Goodell, he works with Jerry Jones. Those are his counterparts. You know what I'm saying. I say whatever I want because these are the people I hang out with. Like you know what I'm saying. Like when I go say what I gotta say in DC, like I'm maybe looking at a room full of people who are never gonna be like well, I don't think the Grammys are actually racist. Jay's gonna go sit next to Jerry Jones. He's gonna go sit next. He's probably. He's guys, he's probably gonna be within arm's length of Taylor Swift at the Grammys.
Speaker 1:Okay, like when I say I said it so well, when I say on that red carpet, all of this shit and all of these people are compromised. This is what I'm talking about. What he stood up there and did was a compromise. It was a negotiation. He didn't say, he didn't stand and say the thing. He didn't just say the thing, and he's so good when he wants to and he feels clear and he feels safe. He's so good at saying the thing. But he was shook. I don't like seeing Jay-Z shook. I don't like it and I'm sad because the guy who was really the guy who really knew how to do this is totally lost now.
Speaker 1:Kanye West. He's completely in outer space right now. He's the one like he started this. He made this a thing, going on that stage and doing the thing he started. A 10 year we're on like year 10 of a decade long might be more than that of a decade long. Taylor Swift pity party as a country because of what Kanye West did to her when she was like 20 years old, maybe younger I don't know how old she was she looks the same, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So who's left? I mean, I literally was going in my head today. I was like I was trying to think of who's the artist that actually would have stood on that stage and said the thing okay, jarrod Carmichael kind of tried to do it, can't really do it as the host. Okay, like you can't, like you can really kill the vibe if you spend the whole night trying to talk that shit. Like it has to be a moment and I'm like who is the artist who could do it? Kendrick won't even show up for this kind of thing. It's definitely not gonna be Drake. Tyler the creator comes to mind. But like Tyler the creator comes to mind Rihanna, it's not Beyonce.
Speaker 1:Like, who is willing to forfeit just a little bit of love from wealthy white people to have more? Oh, this gotta go in the real Fuck. I gotta say it again now who is willing to? I'm sorry I'm writing in front of you guys, but this is important because this needs to be said and I need to promote the show. Who is the artist, who is the person who is willing to forfeit the love and admiration of white people and wealthy white people Just a little bit of it? Like, just a little bit? Who is willing to give up just a little bit of love and admiration from white people for the love of their own fucking people? Like, who will do it? And when Kanye West did it, it sent this man on a fucking tailspin that I believe he is still on to this moment.
Speaker 1:Like, my dream is that I want the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl because I root for the Black Quarterback patching my homes. I also just root. I root to all right, I'm doing sports now. I root to see. I like feeling like I'm seeing and being a part of something. That's the greatest, and that's what I feel. When I see Pat Mahomes play football, I'm like, ooh, he has a chance to pass Tom Brady. That's awesome. I love feeling like I'm. I mean, I'm obviously not a part of it, but I'm here in culture, I'm in the world while it's happening. I love that we did do a quick LeBron side swipe here.
Speaker 3:Of course somehow somehow I don't know how you're about to do this.
Speaker 1:Well, because what I know about the LeBron fan is this by the way, guys, I started as a LeBron fan okay, I did. When he got into the league, I was on board, I was like, ooh, this is the shit. And then I realized this is the pragmatist in me. I think LeBron fans are very unrealistic people. Which is why they are willing to go for the LeBron marketing machine is because they'd like to be led somewhere that, even if it's not real. I thought LeBron was on his way to being the goat and when it became apparent that that's not gonna happen he's not the one I was like, oh, I'll take an off ramp here. Like I'm good, it's cool, like it's still cool, but it's not the best. Pat Mahomes seems to be on the road to being the best and if it's not gonna work out, I will be willing to admit oh, it didn't work out. I'm not gonna do what LeBron fans are doing right now, which is trying to bend the truth and history around the thing that they saddled up for like six year olds as adults to hope and hold on to this idea that this avatar for themselves became the goat. It just didn't happen. That's it.
Speaker 1:Back to Pat Mahomes, here's what I want to happen. I want the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I want Travis Kelsey to be the Super Bowl MVP. I want Taylor Swift to come and find him on the field. Travis bends down on one knee, he holds up a $300,000 engagement ring with a sponsor on it, and then I want Taylor Swift to unzip her bodysuit and underneath her it was Kanye the whole time. And then he comes back to us and this was like this was his whole magic trick. This whole fucking time was that he was going to pull the ultimate deception on us, which is to walk in a white woman's skin, to feel what it is to be loved, the way that the white woman is loved in this country, all the way to the highest pinnacle moment of that adoration, like winning Grammy, you know, album of the Year, you know doing it again to Beyonce, getting the big athlete, super Bowl MVP, to propose to you.
Speaker 1:And then he comes out and he's Kanye West. And then everybody turns on him and it's just like I just think it would be such a fantastic trick of artistry to show how quickly, how fast, this country would go from loving the fuck out of the person in that suit to hating them with the ferocity of a million, gazillion thousand sons in an instant. That's what I pray will happen. I think I have a shot, all right. I don't know, though, because people are saying Kanye got a BBL and Taylor Swift definitely don't have a BBL. Okay, now you guys want to see me be scared. I'm just going to read a headline. It's on my docket. You know what you want me to read?
Speaker 2:Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1:You're scared. Oh no, you're scared, you're scared. I'm just going to read a headline. There's one headline on this docket.
Speaker 4:I'm literally just going to read the headline. You sent this to me, though I will not. I know I did.
Speaker 1:I will not. I don't you know what. I'm just going to read the headline. It says are you scared Morgan?
Speaker 2:No, read the headline.
Speaker 1:It says New York governor Kathy Huckle, shout out. Just got to know a New York New York governor Huckle, by the way. Oh, thank you, Shout out. Kathy Huckle says $183 million of compensation will be paid to Holocaust victims and their heirs. Hate has no home in New York. Must be nice, all right, moving on. Uh right, killer Mike got arrested after the Grammys. You want to know another way to know that we are not invited to the party? It's like when you win Grammys and then you get arrested. Citizens arrest after the Grammys. I don't even know. Does anybody know? Oh, I do know. It says you put it here. He was overzealous with security.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yes and I've heard people talk about this. He said he was overzealous with security. This guy just won three Grammys awards and walked out arrested by a fucking citizens arrest. Okay, and I it's like between this and Will Smith winning his award and then being banned from the show for the next decade.
Speaker 2:It's just, guys, it's just like Will Smith did something else.
Speaker 1:He did, he assaulted somebody.
Speaker 3:He smacked somebody. I was sitting there, I was like hold up, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not trying to reinvent his, but it's like. This is what I mean, y'all. Okay, it's just like sometimes it's just a party you're not invited to. I've had some meltdowns in public areas. I've had some bad moments at a party. I get to think of one particular bad moment on a party bus and the reason for it was because I went with friends somewhere that I was not supposed to be, like I and I'm not. Now I'm not even talking about race. This is in college, so like it's all niggas. But okay, I'll just. I'll tell the story a little bit, why not?
Speaker 1:So we lived in Cascade. I lived with three of my guys, um, three dudes living in a house, townhouse in Cascade. That's like West Atlanta, maybe 15 minutes from the school. Um, gated townhome, commit community. This is how cheap Atlanta was at the time Gated, gated townhome community. I believe the four of us lived in there and paid something like 3000 to $3,500 a month for the whole place. The four of us big ass house Now at that time show.
Speaker 1:Here's a quick plug because I have my new sub stack love project that's coming out on Valentine's Day. Link is in my bio. At that time me and a particular ex girlfriend, were in a point of static in our on again, off again relationship and we I think that was probably the worst this was our senior year of college. I think that was probably the worst of us Trying to hurt each other, like not physically, emotionally, like trying to trying to like kind of throw our weight around and be make shows of ourselves dating other people and just like just be hurtful. It was a mess.
Speaker 1:And one day I'm in my house with my guys and a party bus, literally that none of us knew was coming, pulls up in front of our. Imagine you're just sitting in your house in a gated community. Party bus pulls up in front of this house and on said party bus is there are 30 women from our college and three or four guys on the party bus. They're dancing, they're twerking, they're drunk, like everybody's having a blast, and one of my boys I guess he like went out to put the trash out and the party bus pulls up and he runs back in the house and he's like don't put clothes on, just come outside. So we all like rush our clothes on, we come outside, we're about to get on this party bus, because of course we're going to get on the party bus and as we're getting on the party bus, I realized what the party bus is. It is my ex girlfriend and her 30 line sisters are having they're having a party bus night. So as I'm getting on the bus, it occurs to me this is a bad bus to get on, even though it looks like an amazing bus to get on. You know what I mean. It's like just imagine whatever your favorite. I don't. I'm trying to like, if you really love chocolate chip cookies. Imagine a bus of chocolate chip cookies pulls up in front of your house. You're like, oh, I got to get on this. I put my exes on the bus with the chocolate chip cookies. Get on the bus and this dude who I was cool with but, like um, sits down next to me Ex girlfriend, comes over, plops down right on top of him and starts giving a lap dance right next to me.
Speaker 1:And I am in a in college, like I wasn't fully socialized yet as an adult. My frontal lobe had not completely formed at that point in time and I was the type of person who, like um, who, when incited and said in such a way, like I just let it. I just like let it flow. You know what I mean Like I've never was. I've never been a violent person, but I just was. Like I knew how to make a big scene and how to make everything that I felt make everybody around me also have to feel that thing in the moment. So that's what I did, no further details.
Speaker 1:That was me getting involved in a party that I wasn't supposed to be at. The analogy that I'm making here is like, will Smith, whether or not you are winning an Oscar, you're not actually supposed to be there. If you feel that tense in the room, if somebody can get under your skin that easily and that deeply in that room, like you're not supposed to be there, just leave. Like you, I'm sorry, not will Smith, just leave, but I just mean, like Chad, just get off the party bus, like, why, like, why is the allure of these rooms so defining, like such?
Speaker 1:I didn't even know there were podcast awards at the South by Southwest, but I was so tickled I was like, oh my God, they like me. Oh, marketing Transition no, it isn't transition, because okay. So the list of honorees for, the list of nominees for that award, for all those awards, the I heart podcast awards, came out yesterday and I was looking at that list and I noticed something. It's like how I built this with Guy Razz blah, blah, blah with so and so blah, blah, blah, and then it says just direct deposit. And I'm like, morgan, please hold me honest on this from now on, starting this moment.
Speaker 2:Everything is, everything because that's marketing.
Speaker 1:Like they need to see my name because, like I might not win you know what I mean I might not get to go up there and say something crazy. So like I need they need to see my name and everything. Like everything, everything, everything, everything. I'm pledging it at this moment. Everything going forward, my love project will be something about a stupid doc with Chad Sanders. Okay, all right, that was the.
Speaker 2:that was the segue that made sense, All right Anyway.
Speaker 1:I watched a video. I like Clay Thompson. I watched a video of Clay Thompson in the locker room. Clay Thompson sucks now he's like, it's like, oh, it's so bad. Like when I, even just looking at his box scores, I'm always like I think he had eight points last night. He didn't get to finish the game. And I watched the video of him this morning in the locker room and I am I've never really been like a fan of teams in the NBA like that, like I think like a lot of NBA fans, I have favorite players and whatever team they're on, I I rally, and so Steph Curry is one of my favorite players ever, and so I have been behind the Warriors this for this whole time, you know, literally since Steph Curry was drafted, I've been, I've been like I've been about the Warriors, um, which is why I like Celtics now, because I like the players.
Speaker 1:I like the Knicks Because I like a couple of the players, but, um, clay Thompson, like it's falling off, the wheels are falling off. Like he can't, he just can't do it. He's just not really good anymore and he's a starter and he's a, he's an icon. He'll probably have a statue in front of that building, in front of their arena, along with Stefan Dremon, I would guess, at some point. And after the games, you know, the reporters go to him. Man like I, I can't even. I'm not even assigning a morality to this, it's just. It's just true. Um, the whole world loves it when you don't get down Like. People love to see someone on a fall. People are, people's eyeballs stick to watching someone who is falling. It's a. It's a. It's a. I literally just watched the movie anatomy of a fall Like and the whole movie is about how this family unwound and ultimately spoiler alert have you guys seen the movie? Do you plan to?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, what if you do careers? It goes for you as well. Listener, the movie is about a dad. It's nominated for best picture. It's it is about it's the only nominee I have seen ever last. It is about a family of three mom, dad, son, who is 10, 11 ish and I'm pretty much legally blind and they're adorable, phenomenal, um, like Aussie shepherd dog that deserves an Oscar because the dogs acting is so crazy, like. I'm like literally blown away by the dogs.
Speaker 1:The dog I'm going to give you all so many spoilers. At one point in the movie, the little boy who's kind of creepy. In moments he gives the dog Advil because he wants to see, like, what will happen to the dog. And it cuts to the next shot of the dog Like the next day dead and I'm like I know, and I'm like broken and I'm like I'm so sad. I wish I had gone on that website to see like, does the dog die? I think it's called does the dog diecom? Um, and the babysitter resuscitates the dog and brings it back to life. But the dog acts through being dead to being back to life and I'm just like, wow, that's a mate, like it crushes it, it's tongue is hanging out and it's like eyes are bugged out and then like and then she resuscitates it and then the dog is like oh, oh, my God, I'm back, I'm back. Did I miss anything? It's crazy, it's such good. Acting by the dog, um, but the movie. Oh man, I have like four minutes left. I don't care about any of this other shit. Okay, yeah, oh, there's nothing else here.
Speaker 1:So the movie is about I haven't even said what the movie's about the dad of the family. He falls from the roof of the house. They're in the. They're in the French Alps. There's no other houses around, like. They live like way out. It's beautiful setting, but it's just like it's so isolated. He falls from the roof of the house, cracks his head, dies, and the boy and the dog coming back from a walk. The dog like helps the boy go on walks because he's blind and they find him. Boy yells for his mama, mama, mama, mama comes out, sees the man.
Speaker 1:The whole movie is about trying to decipher whether or not he jumped, whether or not he slipped or whether or not she pushed his ass out the window. And another spoiler alert you don't get the answer at the end, which I kind of hate, but it leaves you to theorize, and there are many believable theories as to how this happened. At one point and this is still my working theory I think the mom really resents the dad because he was watching the kid when the kid was blinded and I think the kid also kind of resents the dad for that and I think the kid and the mom know what happened to the dad. It goes through court. It goes through. There's publicity around it. The mom and the dad are both writers, but he's like a self-sabotaging, can't actually like put his foot out the door writer and she's a very successful writer. So there's like there's conflict about childcare and how he has to kind of like take care of the kid all the time because she's successful and working on her career.
Speaker 1:It's a good movie longest fuck. It's two and a half hours. It could have been an hour shorter. At one point I'm watching the movie they're speaking English because the mom's German, the dad is French, so they speak English to like come to middle ground. But at certain points it's like all in French and there's no subtitles on it. I'm just like am I just supposed to just like be vibing with this? Am I supposed to just like guess? So then I turned on the subtitles so I could read what they were saying. But anyway, anyway, why am I even talking about this?
Speaker 1:Oh, clay Thompson, because Clay Thompson is. I have one minute left. He's falling and people love to watch a fall, like people love to see a champion, someone who used to black out and get 60 points on 11 dribbles. They love to see that person defeated. And you can see it all over Clay's body that he is defeated right now. He's like I, it must. I mean, I got to imagine it's so painful to just watch yourself not be able to do what you could do as a one out of, as a one out of one. Truly Like what Clay can do. Steph is a better shooter, steph is a greater player, steph has handle and vision and all these other things. But like what Clay could do, which is just come off screens and knocked out like can 10 threes without dribbling the ball that he is one of one at that thing. Nobody else had that. Ray Allen didn't have that, reggie Miller didn't have that. Like. That's Clay. He can't do it anymore and he's broken. But I saw something that I saw him say, something that I admired so much. He's my least favorite of the three big three warriors, but he said something that I admired so much.
Speaker 1:When this reporter is just like camera in his face, microphone, tell me about how much it sucks to be you, tell me about how much it sucks to be you. He just kept saying it. And you see, often in these moments you see a lot of aging superstars in the NBA. Their response a lot of times is defiance. A lot of times their response is you know, I still believe in myself, I still know I can do yada, yada, yada. I still blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at some point in this video, clay says he says I accept Like, I accept this, like this. He kind of like. He lets his shoulders down. You see it on his face and he's telling the reporter like bro, you know this sucks Like, and he just says, like, I accept this. This is what it is at this point and I think that's powerful.
Speaker 1:I think we spend a lot of time resisting what is so and like what is definitively so about ourselves in some ways, and I value I think once you accept what is so for yourself, you find clarity and conviction and purpose somewhere else Is my age. I'm going through something like that right now. I talk a lot of shit about Fuck Hollywood, fuck Hollywood, fuck Hollywood, but I still get a tinge. I still get a twinge or 10. I don't know, I still get a pang of jealousy, resentment, sadness when I see Damn so and so God, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And I'm going through I think I told more than this recently. Like I am finding acceptance in, like, what I'm really supposed to be doing and I would like to get there quickly so that, like, I can really do that thing with the like, with the purpose and the passion that it deserves and requires. That's what I'm trying to do here. So, come on, okay, that's it. Live show is Thursday. This Thursday, washington DC. Six tickets remain right. These tickets will be so tempting for me to stop promoting now because we're almost done. But fuck it, I want to go all the way to zero and okay, bye.
Speaker 4:Now, after being released, we'll call on God to check on these tickets. Oh, that's fine. Love you too. Love you too. We love you too. Thanks for watching, guys.
