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The Divine Feminine: Navigating Modern Family Dynamics with Emily Robinson

• Michael & Amy • Season 1 • Episode 61

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What happens when the feminine awakens but the masculine hasn't caught up? Emily Robinson, soul journey mentor and founder of Intuitive Parents Intuitive Kids, takes us on a profound exploration of relationship evolution that goes far beyond typical communication advice.

After experiencing burnout and a rare cancer diagnosis, Emily completely transformed her family's life—even traveling Australia for three years while homeschooling her children. Through this journey, she developed powerful insights into how ancestral patterns and societal conditioning affect our most intimate relationships.

We're witnessing a collective shift where women have done extensive inner work, peeling away layers of conditioning and expanding their spiritual awareness. Yet this awakening has created a gap, as many men remain operating from outdated paradigms until they reach a crisis point. Emily compassionately explores why these breaking points might actually be necessary catalysts for transformation.

Rather than offering performative spirituality, Emily shares practical frameworks that families can implement immediately. Her ABCs approach—Awareness, Balance, and Conversation—provides a simple but powerful structure for creating harmony at home. Similarly, her three Ps—Presence, Prioritise, and Participate—offer individuals a path to empowerment without manipulation.

This conversation goes deep into the energetics of modern relationships, exploring how to embody spiritual principles rather than just talking about them. You'll discover why appreciation differs from gratitude, how to create space for your partner to step up without criticism, and what it truly means to balance masculine and feminine energies in today's world.

Whether you're feeling the weight of carrying emotional responsibility in your family or seeking to deepen your connection through authentic embodiment, this episode offers both cosmic perspective and grounded wisdom for your journey.

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Speaker 1:

1, 2, 3, 4 couples and singles who want to unlock their relationship potential and reconnect on a deeper, more meaningful soul level. We share insights, client breakthroughs and personal stories to help move your relationship from surviving to thriving.

Speaker 2:

Emily Robinson is the founder of Intuitive Parents Intuitive Kids. She's a soul journey journey mentor, intuitive healer and transformational teacher with over 20 years experience in the personal development space, working with families all over the world. After nearly burning out herself and being diagnosed with a rare form of cancer, she completely turned her life around, and her family's life as well. She's a passionate guide and an intuitive oracle, blessed with quantum insights that allow her to blend conscious parenting tools with transformational embodiment practices to activate the soul's highest purpose. To date, she has completed hundreds of soul plan readings and personal development journeys using her signature SRA healing method, and loves nothing more than supporting intuitive mums on their spiritual ascension path. So in this episode, we zoom right out to explore what the feminine is experiencing in humanity's evolution, and then we bring this into the zoomed in aspects of the home dynamics. This is a deeper dive into energetics and how this plays into our relationships in the modern world.

Speaker 1:

Let's get into it welcome everyone to another episode of thrive again, your relationship podcast. We've got a very special guest on with us tonight or today. Emily robinson is joining us and she has kind of popped into our world several times through different avenues and ways, but we related on such a deep level and we could really see each other's I guess gifts and sole purpose and we thought we'd really love to have you on just to discuss life and relationships and parenting and all those things. So welcome, Emily, it's so great to have you here.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. Thank you, it's so good, so glad that through our own kind of disjointed journey of life, that we came across you guys as a couple and then have been able to build such a beautiful relationship.

Speaker 1:

It's so good, so great. So why don't we start? We'll just jump straight in and maybe you can just give us a little bit of a background about what is it that lights you up, what is it that you're here to share your gifts with, and what is it that you do?

Speaker 3:

So I would love to start by saying, primarily, I am a mum to three beautiful children, I am a wife to my lovely husband and, just like everybody, I'm just a messy human.

Speaker 3:

But with all of the different hats that I wear, predominantly the most kind of important one that just lights up my soul is being a spiritual teacher and mentor and just guiding, particularly mums because they tend to be the ones that come into my world um, on their own soul journey and really helping them to see life probably from more of a vibration and energy and resonance perspective than just being so bogged down in the nitty-gr of life that it almost becomes a chore and they're like you know what. I've just totally had enough, and so through my own journey with my children, homeschooling for seven years, we've gave up our property, our house and traveled for three years around Australia and we've just resettled back into normal life. But through that journey and through really, I guess, dissecting what it means to be inside of a lot of matrix conditioning and a lot of just ancestral kind of patterns and ways of parenting, ways of being in partnership, ways of being in relationship with other people, I've been able to dissect a lot of that and really embody a different way of being and that's kind of what I teach inside of intuitive parents, intuitive kids and taking families as a whole on this journey, where we sort of step outside of the boxes of what it looks to be a mainstream parent and really start to expand and develop and grow into that more spiritual journey and the soul journey and starting to realize where some of that karmic relationship pops in and how that affects the way that we show up and what we can do about it. Because it's great to be aware, but obviously, yeah, we really want to make changes and so many people now want to be in the kind of, I guess, the place where we're leaving a different legacy for our kids, for, you know, the next generations, because we can feel the changes are happening and so much of what's happening we're like, oh, that doesn't necessarily feel good, like need to find my space, my truth, my groundedness in all of this. So, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 2:

When you said mainstream parenting, I sensed in myself like the heaviness of that and the monotony of what that could be for a lot of mums and I guess I wanted to to maybe ask you can you give me a generalized view of what a mum is going through? You know, at the moment, in mainstream parenting patterns like what is it that they're?

Speaker 3:

what are they?

Speaker 2:

what are you seeing? What are they feeling?

Speaker 3:

I guess, like first of all, I predominantly don't have a huge number of mums that come into my world that I would say are in mainstream parenting, purely because I my work is so kind of spiritual and probably a little bit out there, that I tend to have mums come into my world that already have a certain level of awareness. They're already parents that are like, oh god, the heaviness of just just a really simple thing like putting their children in school, when you think how many hours and how many days a child is in school, which is more than they are with their parent. Mums come to me that are like I this feels wrong in my body. I do not want my child at the age of four or five going into school until they're 18, but I've got no choice. I have to work. Both parents are working. They're like this feels so wrong inside me, but I have no alternative right now. Work around different tools they can do at home building conversations, like really starting to develop more awareness and balance and harmony in the home environment to kind of outweigh some of the negativity potentially that's coming in from them being at school and away from them.

Speaker 3:

But I think the mums who come into my world tend to be the ones that are already on quite a deep, evolved spiritual path and they're already aware, they're already doing a lot of the inner work to unhook their patterning, because they see it, they recognize that, particularly in a parenting dynamic or in a partnership dynamic, they're reactive.

Speaker 3:

They'll say but I sit in meditation, I go to circle, I'm doing, you know, I'm doing the work, I'm having the healing, but then I come back into the house and the kids are just at me and there's just so much chaos and like I just lose it because I can't hold that together.

Speaker 3:

And so so much of the work that I do, although it's very spiritual in terms of the journey and high vibrational it's, it's embodiment, because there is a real concept at the moment of spiritual bypassing where we can all sit in meditation all day long, but we can't just go and live in a teepee and avoid life. You know, if our kids are at school, if we are having to interact with people, if we have to go to the supermarket, and it's really overwhelming. That's just life stuff. So a lot of what I'm teaching is actually how to be embodied, how to walk the life of a parent that can still navigate all of the things, all the chaos, all the ups and downs, all the relationship dynamics, and then still come home, to this place of sovereignty within themselves and truth of their soul, journey and go, and this is okay.

Speaker 1:

I can hold that Beautiful, yeah, and that's a powerful place to be in because, like you said, I guess from our side of the work that we do with couples, we see that chaos, we see that overwhelm, we see that you know anxiety and stress and you know all of the things that it shows up with in people particularly well, I guess men and women.

Speaker 1:

We're seeing it in both. It's not just one or the other, but yeah, it's like that it's. It's then embodying it into the how, like what do I need to do to actually live this kind of life but yet still having this peace and this quiet and this ability to stay anchored and calm and gosh, yeah, even even I struggle with that some days too, right, exactly. So I'd love to invite you to speak, I guess, a little more into, like you were saying, that you're noticing this in mums, that you know they're on this journey, that they're a little bit more awakened and conscious about their choices and stuff. So, with the relationship space, then, what are you seeing in in your clients and the mums that you're dealing with? And, yeah, I'm interested we have talked about this before but I am interested for you to share with our listeners and our audience, you being in the work that you're in the field that you're in, what is it you're noticing?

Speaker 3:

yeah. So one of the biggest repetitive patterns at the moment that comes up again and again and again is this feeling of imbalance in family units where predominantly the mum is the one who is probably bearing the brunt of the emotional responsibility, the physical nurturing responsibility with the children. And, as we know, this is a really kind of patriarchal conditioning and this is not something that when I think about my own journey and the healing work that I've done it's not that I was born into this. You know traumatic family experience where my parents, you know, made me be the girl, and you know all the things that we would think of as stereotypical conditioning. But I think what we have to remember is that there are generations and generations and generations of very insidious and distorted relationship dynamics based on more of a patriarchal kind of false masculine concept that has contributed to our DNA. When we think about the science of epigenetics, like I'm a I'm actually a university lecturer, so I'm very like I love quantum physics, I love all the the kind of factual bits and pieces, but when you really dig into this stuff, it we can, we are made of these patterns, this ancestral conditioning. That may not be our experience directly, but we're carrying it. We're carrying our parents, our grandparents.

Speaker 3:

You go back to the war era. There is so much um conditioning around, lack around what, what women specifically because I'm dealing with mums should be doing or are now doing. And there has been, probably in in the last 20 to 30 years, a real shift in the movement. And if we, if we kind of zoom out and so much of my zone of genius is being in the collective and seeing what's happening energetically as a bigger picture, um, there really is this feeling that the women have started to wake up. They've been like, right, there's the you know the kind of me too movement and the, the we need more equality. And then there's this is on a bigger, obviously, kind of stage, but within the spiritual community there's also been you know the books coming out about the, the witch wound, and you know very much like the mother wound.

Speaker 3:

There's all this energy that's been moving and stirring the pot around feminine embodiment, and so what I see in the mums who I work with is that they're coming in and they've done a fair bit of this work. They've been unhooking, unpicking, peeling back these layers and there's become a divide, like there's become a little bit of a gap now and in the last probably year, year or so, what I've started to see is that the women are reaching this boiling point or this, this kind of point where it's something has to give, like that something is going to snap, and so it's either I am, I actually need the man to step into this role, and you even see this in the spiritual community, with divine union and the twin flame kind of concepts and divine masculine, divine feminine energies and the way that these need to be balanced. And I think there's a lot of you know probably going to get shot for saying this but there's a lot of performative kind of spiritual bypassing that is happening in that realm and in my work. This isn't about us diving in and trying to repair that. It's actually trying to be more embodied in our own soul journey and our own soul truth but at the same time providing like a platform that's empowered for not just a space for our partner and the men particularly to step into, but then also how that reflects on the family, how it reflects on the parenting, how it reflects on the way our children are going to grow up, to mirror our sense of responsibility.

Speaker 3:

And so the men and again, their conditioning is, you know it's very stereotypical. They don't, you know, been taught not to cry. They've been taught not to show emotion. I mean, michael, you'd be able to to talk to this piece, but it it very much. It keeps them stuck in a place where that bridging of the gap it almost feels like an impossibility.

Speaker 3:

And I'm just seeing that we're getting to a point, collectively, where it's like do or die, like step up or don't, but it's calling the men into this space of I'm ready I I actually not I'm going to jump in two feet first and suddenly become a spiritual guru and sit there and meditate all day long, but to begin to take some steps. And that's what's so incredibly beautiful about the work that you guys do, because it provides this really grounded, inspirational relationship dynamic that people can relate to. And it's how me and my husband ended up finding you guys, because that was our life. Like, what I'm speaking to is my life, even though I teach on it and I share on it. It's embodied in me because I've walked through this, I've walked fire, but.

Speaker 2:

But this is, this is what's happening as a collective, that the women have spent this time peeling back these layers and it's opening this space for a shift, for the masculine, for the men to really step into beautiful yeah, I think, just reflecting on what you've said, like from an expanded viewpoint and I like where you've gone with this, because you're kind of really speaking from that real zoomed out perspective of what humanity is is experiencing generally at the moment, energetically and yeah, I can see that a lot of parts that you're speaking about are true in, especially around the women nowadays, the expectation, especially in australia, um, to to have to work full-time, so there's this masculine element that they're needing to kind of take in. But then there's they're also expected to be the nurturers and that's not necessarily being appreciated or seen by him and not to justify or condone. But men can sometimes be unifocus. We were speaking about this yesterday, weren't we, babe, like, women are great horizontally as in like just expanding out to different things and multitasking and and and knowing what's happening next week and next month. Men, like we're generally good at one thing at a time and sometimes we can get hyper focused and sometimes that is work and sometimes that is providing and protecting.

Speaker 2:

But if that becomes the only sense of purpose in that man and then he becomes so hyper focused on that as being the primary role for him, then he's missing the heart that exists within the household and the home and then, over time, that relationship's going to erode to the point where she is going to not come from her best place in terms of her communication because she's not got much left in the tank either, and so then she's coming from that place of empty cup. And that place of empty cup might come across as criticism. It might be short, it might be, you know, going on a bit of a rant and then kind of like both, both, you know moving away from each other for a while because of the friction. But one thing that a lot of people don't see is also that he is experiencing coming home from work. And if this is true for that household, then he's probably coming home from work and sitting in his car taking a deep breath before he goes inside, because he knows that it's chaos in there and he probably doesn't feel adequate. He's probably not going to feel like he's doing it well enough.

Speaker 2:

And, yeah, it's just this ever evolving, ratvolving rat race with pressure left, right and center, and then, when he cops, some criticism from her. Is that going to reveal his wounds and what's really happening with him? And whether it comes out in anger, frustration, whatever it comes out in. That's really revealing, um yeah, how unhealthy this dynamic can actually be within the household, right, yeah?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I think that the yeah, I think that's what you were speaking into as well, emily like is this, is this like rising up of this woman to realize that, actually, when we're kind of at this point where we can't tolerate that anymore, right, like is, you know, like we understand that, yes, this the man is is in that, you know, uni focus, and that, one thing at a time, and his role is the provider, and we love that of him. You know, of course, that's something that we will always cherish in our partners is the ability to provide for us, because that's so important. But it's almost like we're calling him forward to like there's more for you as well, like that's not just the one thing now, it's more because here we are, you know, for whatever reason, but the evolution of women is like we're starting to grow and become, you know, yes, a bit of both. You know we've got to go to work, yes, we do have to do those things, but yes, we can also keep this nurturing, you know, the best that we can, like you were were saying this embodiment of it. Then how can we help the man to then kind of meet us with that without having this split or, you know this, this breaking point that you're speaking about, where you're like all or nothing. You know, you're either here or you're not.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, that's what I feel like. It's always this little tricky balance, um, and I'm sure that that's what you're speaking into and you see, in the women as well, as like, how can we come on men, you know, let's keep coming and keep, you know, joining us in this, in this, which, which I am so grateful for, that we can help couples in this space. That's why I you know you were speaking into our, our presence in this relationship space, and I think that is true because it's something that we've worked through. But, in the bigger picture, how can we keep encouraging gently these men to keep stepping forward, because we're calling them up, but then without, without emasculating them, ultimately, without like being in that?

Speaker 3:

I think, too, there's also a space there where and I know for the woman because again I've been there, it's in my clients, like the women I work with there can be this feeling of I am so sick of being the one that does the work, I'm so sick of care, I'm just so, so exhausted of constantly working through my stuff and then not having that met anywhere. And one of the things that I love to have these conversations and to really talk about this on bigger platforms is because this isn't about you running away and doing something about it, it's just letting this land to have more awareness of the bigger picture. So much of the work I do is to zoom you out. It's so easy to get stuck in there and I know I do it like I you know I've got three kids, I'm, I'm busy, I'm doing all the things. But you can get so bogged down in what is happening on the day-to-day and that nittyitty gritty, you forget that collectively, there is a whole earth at the moment that is shifting its vibration and there is a complete change in the way that we are being on the planet. And so I think what's really important for those mums, if you're feeling that, if you're like, oh man, thank god someone is speaking to this and and almost honoring the work I've done is to recognize and this is kind of a download that I had.

Speaker 3:

Just it came in one day that if the women had not done this, if the women had not spent the last 10, 20, 30 years working through this collectively and within our own families, there would be no space for the men to step up, because we are living in predominantly a patriarchal society. So that suits the man, it suits the whole framework of that. Control, distortion, manipulation, suits the way that life has been built. And so the women have suddenly started to kind of deconstruct it and be like hang on, is that right? Is, am I actually meant to be? You know feeling this, holding this, doing this, you know performing in this way. And they've started to unpick and unhook and begin to build a new foundation. And some of that has also meant re-establishing what it means to be emotional, to be embodied, to be able to express ourselves fully, to have a voice.

Speaker 3:

And I know this is my personal experience if I had not done the level of self-development work that I had to to this point, I actually don't think that Chris, my, my husband would have had the capacity to step into a different dynamic or a different role or begin to explore his own understanding of self. Because I would have been too reactive, he would have said something, I would have gone. That's not true. How dare you? And so what I really see in this is that it's it's so divine, it's like a divine plan that we were meant to, and I know it's a struggle and I know this doesn't take away the sheer amount of hard work it's taken for these moms and these women to get to the point they're at. And's not fair and it's like damn, why is it always me, like? I know all the stories, but I just really want you to know that, as a collective, this was so important because it's opening the space and you think about what.

Speaker 3:

What the divine feminine is really there for is to be this open vessel to receive the masculine you know, on a sexual level, on an energetic level, and us women have been so kind of siphoned into a masculine role, and some of that, like you said, is oh, now we have to work and parent, and so there's a lot of our doing which is based on the masculine principle.

Speaker 3:

It's not the beautiful feminine openness. And I know, amy, you've talked a lot about control and the way that our men try to do something and we're like, oh no, that's not how we do it, I'll just do the washing myself or I'll just, you know, cook the dinner my way, because, you know, and it's really subtle, but it's a subtle shutdown, and it's a subtle, I will take the leadership, I will be in the masculine, so you don't have to. And that dynamic had to be dissected. We women had to open the space for the men to come in, and that wouldn't have happened 30 years ago. So, yeah, as a collective, we're all doing, we're all doing work, and we're doing it together and it's it is shifting the vibration yeah, I feel that too definitely and we see that as well, hey, we?

Speaker 2:

I mean we felt it in our relationship. Yeah, like I mean, I, I what I see with a lot of men is that they won't necessarily take action in looking at themselves until there is a catastrophic or dark night of the soul moment for them and it sucks Like there's some men that might just step into that journey. But I really see that some crisis, most of the time, has happened and I mean I'm starting to work with a couple of men even just in the last last week, that have have come to me a week after a relationship breakdown and they are feeling for the first time that that that I'm, you know, that they're speaking to me. They're like I haven't cried in years and now I'm, I'm letting things out because what choice do I have? It's like this convergence, um, of like well, you're going to stick with that identity because it ain't working for you and now, now you're needing to sort of look at yourself, um, so this bifurcation energetically that you're talking about is maybe what? Maybe it is what you're talking about in that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can go down that path of ignorance and just find another woman that will fit into your little puzzle, but there's no expansion, there's no um, there's no joy, there's no spectrum of feeling, and yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean I look at you, emily, and I I just see, I just see this expansiveness of all the emotions, like your expression is free, and that's really what I see for humanity in the future is I see freedom of expression and acceptance, and yeah, so I don't know where I was going with that, but I kind of really feel like I'm seeing a lot of men stepping up, but it normally happens when shit hits the fan, like something has happened that's caused them this internal cataclysmic kind of crisis, where they need to kind of like start having a look at themselves. And that's when the change happened for us. I had to go through my meltdown and it was only when amy held me through that, so I could now trust that she's not going to ridicule me or think that I'm or say that I'm less of a man, and it was sort of like hey, like I'm with you, I'm, I'm with you in this and I'd done a lot of work to get to that point, to be able to receive that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly yeah so it was.

Speaker 2:

It was the, it was the work that you were doing in your women's circles in confronting your own parenting like shadows, um and shame around. Yeah, all of that that helped you. I don't know, maybe, maybe that's that's something that you can speak into, but for me I'm I was met with compassion at the point of crisis, which is actually divinely what I needed.

Speaker 3:

And you know what For women, if you I mean this is personal to me, but I'm pretty sure Amy will relate to this it's like that's what we wanted when we were in crisis.

Speaker 3:

It's like where's the man, where is like? That was the biggest thing. I want to be held, like that, but we have been the ones doing the holding and so and it's not wrong, and and also something to just again bigger picture zoom out. It's like the crisis point is necessary if, of course, I'm sitting here going well, of course, of course that's how the men are going to arrive, like what you know, what are we?

Speaker 3:

expecting here. It's like there is not no karmic kind of contracts are going to close off in your soul plan if you don't see them, like fully see them. And the only time you're going to fully see them is when shit breaks down and life hits this point of complete chaos and catastrophe because you're out of control. If you're in control, you can manipulate your karmic contracts. You can sit there and meander your soul journey, right. But the moment of vulnerability comes when you are stripped bare, when you have that knees on the earth moment and you're like I, I'm done, like I, I cannot take any more. So we need to expect that and we need to not not welcome it like let's have a.

Speaker 3:

But it's like there's this collective kind of spiritual bypassing around breaking down anything and thinking that it's so terrible because it's painful and it is a death. And we have to, we have to be able to hold that. That is part of the human experience, like we are so lucky to be human, to feel, to have emotion, to like just be so expansive and have the ability to taste and touch and experience. You know all these incredible things about being in a human body, as a soul, and yet we're like oh, but don't bring me the hard stuff. Like oh, no love and light.

Speaker 3:

Thanks, love and light yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm like I get it because it's fucking hard. We want to teach our kids and you know, what's so ironic is that when I started intuitive parents, intuitive kids my entire kind of premise of this business was I'm going to teach my children how to not have all of these difficulties in life. Like I'm going to teach my children how to not have all of these difficulties in life, like I'm going to give them all the tools they need to be emotionally resilient and understand manifestation and be able to love themselves and like. And it was so great and I have this incredible program that does all of that. However, what I realized was that that's not the human journey. My children need to have these difficult, challenging, like literal crisis points in their life because that's the karmic growth they chose their soul plan. They know what their soul is here to work through and without those moments, there is no growth. So I think, reframing the difficulty and the death, and it it is painful, like I'm not going to say, oh, you know, the breakdown of our life, relationship, business or all of the things we've been through was not difficult.

Speaker 3:

It is, but when we start to really embrace the full experience of being human, we start to realize how blessed we are that that life force moves through us like it's. It's our human perspective and the limited 3d box that we've grown up with, which how could we not like we were into this, but that distortion of control, lack, you know, good, bad, right, wrong, all of the, the duality, which is what the 3d perspective is, that has taught us to split, to separate, and so, even when we're talking about relationship dynamics, how I see this because I see everything in such a big, expansive perspective is that when we're thinking about ourselves and we're thinking about how can I be embodied in this experience, how can I feel this? How can I be able to sit and hold and love the parts of me that actually did the wrong thing, feel guilt, feel shame, feel like they messed up, whatever it is me. But when thousands of people men, women are doing this, what's happening?

Speaker 3:

It's raising the vibration of the dynamic between masculine and feminine, and this is what we're seeing in the collective is couples like you guys that are like let us show you, let us show you on the ground how to do this, what comes up every day, what, what you say, what they say, how this dynamic works, but as a collective thing. This is the energy that is happening. It's coming back together. Both parties are raising in their vibration and they're coming to this place of unity, which is what so many people are teaching this unity, consciousness in it's performative sense. But what I see is the truth is in the embodiment, like are you walking it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, you've been able to show up in that space yeah, it just sings integrity, you know, that word really comes to mind. It's walking the walk like it's like it's the opposite of performative and and in a way, like you, you know, I don't know why, but I've just come through to to even just connecting physically, like a man and a woman, sexually like. We've been conditioned, a lot of us, that this is performative, like that. This is something that I need to get right. But the embodiment of that is the presence, like being in the moment, not thinking outcome, focus, just being in my body right now, with you, in this moment. And the same can be said for the presence of self within this 3d reality, within world, in this world and like.

Speaker 2:

This morning I had a friend who's like an avid bird watcher and he was teaching me about oh, did you hear that? And there was this tiny little call and he told me the species of this bird that he could tell just from the sound. And then he told me that these are seasonal, and so you can now link your own thoughts to that bird being this particular time of year being the end of winter, where we are, and now you can be more in flow with nature through that bird and through. Well, like, but it's so easy for me to disregard that bird song and go and log onto my computer and so, yeah, like what that embodiment, feeling, the? You know, I guess, the essence of what this is, this present moment, all these like Eckhart Tolle and all these like amazing people on this planet have been teaching this, and it's so simple but it's so damn hard sometimes.

Speaker 3:

It really is that embodiment piece. We know it, we understand it, I have awareness. It's like that's great, but how we know it, we understand. I have awareness. It's like that's great, but how do we get it into our body? And that is the journey. The life journey is not going to end. It's this constant walking with these karmic contracts with the soul, with what is meant to come through, and I love that example. It's life force, like you're hearing the bird. It's like do we really let it in?

Speaker 3:

And this is the work where, you know, the moms have for years been stripping it back to be more open, like to open to that and that that exactly translates to the sexual relationship. You know, we can't be open if the trust isn't there, if the communication isn't there. So I guess, like bringing it back to practical tools, like we have three we I call them the ABCs in in the IPIK world and it's something that I'm always aware of in parenting, in relationship dynamics, in kind of just trying to, I guess, yeah, keep things moving as something, a really simple framework, and it's A it's always be aware as a family. Are we aware? Are we aware of each other? Are we aware of what's coming in from external sources. Are we aware of how we're feeling in our body? And then B is bring in balance. Okay, balance is not 50-50. Like I'm the woman, you're the man, let's take 50% equally. It's like that's not it, that's never gonna be it. But can we bring balance and flow into this dynamic, into this family, into this partnership, into the relationship I have with one child or two children or three children or whatever it is?

Speaker 3:

And then the most important C is create conversation. So many parents say to me oh, I don't know how to explain this to my three-year-old. You know how do I tell them about energy and you know that their soul journey. I'm like, have a conversation, have a conversation, just open a conversation with them and ask them about it, ask them what they think. You, you know, continually be opening conversation in your family. Um, because that is something that's going to allow you to keep the connection. You know, keep having different conversations, different relationships pop up and then you circle back again, be aware, find the balance and then have another conversation. It's just a continual cycle to help you be in that space of awareness.

Speaker 1:

I love it, yeah, and I can see how it can be practical for couples. You know, like our audience, like you know, if you're listening to this, you can bring that into your everyday life more and more, because the more awareness that we have, you know, the more that we can see our patterns, see what's happening, see the dynamic. But then, yeah, how can we balance that back out? And then how can we actually communicate and share that? Oh, I'm noticing this with us. Can we do this better? I love it, abc. Never heard that before, so thank you for sharing that. Hopefully our audience and our listeners take that on and and maybe start to use that in their own life. I think that'd be really helpful for anybody. Yeah, parenting, you know, relationship stuff, so good.

Speaker 2:

I think, like, definitely, like lately we've been dealing a lot with couples that are in what we call roommate energy, where it's it's almost just become like we're just on our paths and we just ships in the night. You know, we sort of see each other and there's not really a depth in connection anymore. And I feel like the withdrawal of conversation is a big part of that, because of trust, because trust has been eroded or because it just hasn't landed the right way when I expressed my hurt to them. And so, yeah, I think, if we can become better at delivering a message, considering the other, and then the harmony within the household can continue to to get healthier. And for me, one thing that and this is what the research is really showing as well is that appreciation, spoken and specifically spoken as to why that helps you or why you appreciate that to the other, is just beautiful medicine for that space.

Speaker 2:

And I think sometimes we get caught up, like collectively, in our own nitty-gritty stuff, like you were saying that zoomed in stuff and sometimes we need to zoom out and kind of say hey, hey, I just like really wanted to say I have never actually thought of this, but you know how you, you kind of really look after the kids and pick them up all the time. I actually really appreciate that. It means I don't have to think about that and I just wanted to say thank you and that is. That's sort of like this this, yeah, beautiful medicine for the other to go. Oh, I will do that.

Speaker 3:

I will continue to do that with more love and not out of a burden yeah, and I, I just I want to speak to that just from the perspective again that there is a real um and look, this happens with everything, but it becomes a bit of a fad and it's that kind of gratitude practice. And I'm not saying the gratitude practice is wrong or bad or we're not judging it, but it can become very performative. And I think what's really lovely about what you just said is that we can all sit there and write three things we're grateful for every morning. You know, and, and really what you spoke about with the bird, that was like a deep sense of gratitude in you for just the life force. But when you talk about appreciation versus gratitude, what that's doing is actually projecting something to somebody else. It's easy to say I'm grateful for, but when you actually say I appreciate you for, it completely changes the dynamic of that experience, and particularly for the other person.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 3:

I actually think that's such a beautiful reframe and a beautiful technique that can, yeah, build more of that awareness, balance and conversation, because it's not the same as just sitting there going. I'm grateful for this and I'm grateful for that, and I think it just that word, appreciation you could maybe change your a to always be appreciative yeah it's so true, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it impacted.

Speaker 2:

It impacted me recently, you know, like Amy. Amy wrote out a big list. This is like for the women that are listening, like this is was super, like impactful for me. Um, she wrote a list of all the things that I provide for her and the family that she appreciates and she wrote a full page of just some things that were coming to her mind after a meditation and she handed it to me and it just struck me because some of the things I didn't think about were actually impactful for her, but they were like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

There was things like oh, thank you for lighting the fire, like that really helps us our home to be warm you provide warmth for our house, like yeah it's actually like, yeah, what it provides for me to share that with Michael and what it provides for me, cause we, knowing that you're like men, are such providers and and that's what they want they. That lifts them up, that makes them feel good. So if we can share with that with our men, you know as well, to help them again, to get that confidence and cause, I feel like sometimes well, I know I've kind of got off track, but anyway but I feel like sometimes what we, us women, can do when we're in this space that you were speaking about, like I'm just done, I'm done with carrying the load, I don't need this burden anymore. We can actually also dismiss our men a lot. So I also want to speak into that potential of dismissal, because we're at that point and I also resonate with that too.

Speaker 1:

So I'm not disregarding those people, but how can we also help our men to come along on this journey without having, I don't know, necessarily a massive crisis? Is there another way? I'm not sure yet. I'm still trying to really work on that, but these little things do make a big difference. You know offering those words of I don't know, you know advice or not. Advice, encouragement, and you know support and you know those sorts of things to lift them up can help.

Speaker 3:

And I think it's coming back to that space of it being empowering and it's so easy to fall into the projection mode and the picking and the. You know, you do such a beautiful job of articulating that in some of the posts and the shares around the level of control women want to have and how they, they subconsciously, take away the responsibility and then lay it out as you're not doing your and I, I 100 am guilty of that. I, I totally understand that and I think, yes, this, this beautiful dynamic of how do we actually it for for the women listening, for the ones that are going, oh my god, I am so like this relationship is over. I cannot hold this anymore. For years I've been trying I mean, first of all, clearly reach out to michael and amy, because they're lifesavers, but also, just if you're someone in that position and you're feeling like I'm so exhausted, I'm so done, I don't really know what to do. I think there's another kind of acronym that we use in IPIK, the three Ps, and this is really practices to come back to center and feel empowered, and this isn't to manipulate your man into a space of having to show up. But, yes, there is going to be a line between leadership and I'm sorry, but women, you are the leaders right now, and it's no disrespect to the men, but it's because of this work we've done over the last 30, 40, however many years that we are in the leadership position, because we've already unhooked a fair bit of this subconscious patterning and so you do have to be the one that says I actually can't do this. I'm going to keep poking you towards stepping up in a, in a way that isn't going to necessarily break unless you really truly are done and you're like I actually can't live like this or in a way that's more supportive or encouraging into some kind of program.

Speaker 3:

And that's been our experience. You know, my husband, chris, has been able, through a lot of jiggering along and supporting, but in a way that perhaps for him at points is like would you just shut up? You know, like it's like kind of nagging and all those things, and I get that. Don't do that. If I hadn't done that, it wouldn't have given him the space or the empowerment to step into something that has helped, has supported. So it's a fine line and a dance between the two, but the three Ps are kind of again, it's just a beautiful framework for us to try to live by, to remember how to be in first P presence.

Speaker 3:

And I know you guys do the same thing breathing like simple, simple things, just coming back to feeling the sun on your face, like, can I be present, can I feel something? Can I drink my coffee but be in the moment? You know, you know even and I know for mums out there that are going, I don't even get to pee in peace. So where am I going to find that I'm like, I promise you you can, if you really set yourself up to to take moments, snippets, 30 seconds of presence. So first p is presence, the second p is prioritize. And this again, I can tell you all the narratives that you're going to say but I don't have time, but I've just got so much on, but I've got to take little jimmy to soccer and I've got to do this. And you know, oh, this is happening today and next weekend my in-laws are coming and I'm like, I know, I know.

Speaker 3:

However, if you don't prioritize, you will never change the storyline. If you continue this script and you prioritize all the stuff on your to do list, you're going to stay in chaos, in anxiety, in this space that is not present in doing versus being, it's hard, it's tough. I'm not going to say you just flick a switch and go oh yeah, I can prioritize, like it's, it's not that. But you need the awareness to understand that there are some things on that list you do not have to do or you don't have to do to that degree. And I know, amy, again, you speak to this. When you you're talking about the control, it's like relax, let the men have their time, let them do things, without you getting in there and going that's not right. I'll redo the refold, the washing pile, it doesn't matter. Okay, no, prioritize. Okay, he is participate.

Speaker 3:

So what happens is that I have these incredible, you know, women come into the space and we talk and like they'll have a healing, and they they're like, oh, I feel so empowered, like, yeah, I'm going to go home, I'm going to do this, this and this, and then they don't participate, they don't take the action. So we know that if we want to rewire those neural pathways, if we want to create new habits that are healthy and empowered and going to integrate into life, we have to practice, which means you have to take action, and sometimes the action is going to feel uncomfortable because it's not normal and you're going to say, oh, this is so hard. It's not hard, it's new. And new feels like a bit of an uphill because you're trying to recalibrate to something that your body, in the embodied experience, is going to feel like that's not normal, that's not how we operate. I need to control, and it's like you've got to understand that when your body feels that it's a red flag to go, oh, that's right, hang on.

Speaker 3:

I'm feeling like I have to go this way. Can I come back to presence, can I choose in this moment to prioritize, and can I then participate in life, be active in a way that is actually going to serve me, serve my highest, serve this relationship, serve my family, and it's not going to look like what you've ever done before. So these are kind of the, the ways that, when I'm working with clients and working with these dynamics, we're coming back to these reminders that, yeah, it's not going to be easy, but the end result, like the, the person, the human you become, the way that you are a mother, the way you are a wife, the way you're a husband, the way you're a father, the way you exist in the world, is so much richer because you've made different choices.

Speaker 2:

yeah yeah, I love that and I think the, the, the calcification in a way, of the behavioral patterns is is the reason why we're so stark, and and by questioning or even by saying this is just me is a big red flag for me, because that is the calcification talking. And so, yeah, just really being open to loosening the grip a little is what I'm hearing there. Just being open to, yeah, let's just take this path, even though it's unfamiliar, even though it feels like a dirt road and not the main road. On the other side of that potentially could be a lot more happiness, a lot more joy and a lot more freedom.

Speaker 1:

There is. Because we know it right, we walk that path. It hasn't been easy but, yeah, there is a lot more happiness and joy and, yeah, I definitely see the benefit of doing the difficult work sometimes. But, yeah, yeah, what a great conversation. I've so loved having one. I feel like I could talk for hours and hours, but I think that's enough for our listeners in this little bite-sized bit. But, yeah, so much gratitude for you to come on our show and share your wisdom and your magic and and help us to kind of I feel like we went on a real journey of like zooming out and then just zooming back in and some real practical keys and takeaways that can, I think, our audience will really help. But if people do want to find you or, you know, track you down, how do they get in touch with you, emily?

Speaker 3:

um. At the moment, the easiest way to get in touch with me is either through Facebook Messenger so through my personal profile, which is just Emily Robinson Mentor, or the Quantum Parenting Collective, or just email info at ipikprojectscom.

Speaker 1:

Great. Cool you can put all that in the show notes as well, so I'll get those all in there too, so people can reach out to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so good to have you on Emily. It's been a journey. I feel like I've expanded my own consciousness on that one too, and that's cool to do this dance with you as well.

Speaker 3:

Thank you guys, Thank you.