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5 Reasons Men Shut Down
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The moment he goes quiet, it can feel personal. Your mind fills in the blanks: he doesn’t care, he’s checked out, you’re on your own. We get it and we also see another truth again and again in couples coaching: men often shut down because connection has started to feel like pressure instead of safety.
We walk through five specific triggers that commonly lead to emotional shutdown, stonewalling, or withdrawal. We talk about what happens when a man is corrected while trying to express himself, why “you can never get it right” slowly kills effort, and how emotional intensity with no room to breathe can overwhelm an already stressed nervous system. We also name the quieter forms of disrespect like tone, eye rolls, sarcasm, and dismissal and why many men experience that as a direct threat to closeness and belonging. Then we land on the painful final pattern: only being seen for what he gets wrong.
From there, we shift into solutions you can use immediately to improve relationship communication and rebuild emotional safety: slowing the moment down with simple language, moving from correction to curiosity, acknowledging effort before outcome, using embodiment and breath to stay present, and repairing after conflict without punishment. If you’ve been stuck in the pursue withdraw cycle, this gives you a clearer map back to secure connection.
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Welcome And Why This Matters
SPEAKER_01Where Michael and Amy are your couples' connection coaches. Our mission is to help couples thrive using a conscious and holistic approach. This podcast is for couples and singles who want to unlock their relationship potential and reconnect on a deeper, more meaningful soul level. We share insights, client breakthroughs, and personal stories to help move your relationship from surviving to thriving. Welcome everyone to another episode of Thrive Again, your relationship podcast. We have Michael and Amy here for another interesting episode. I think this episode came about from one of our posts going a little bit nuts and realizing that there's obviously people who are connecting with this and we wanted to dive into it deeper. And the topic today is five things that make men shut down in relationships. Like obviously, we see this a lot in couples that we work with, and I've seen it in you in our relationship, and sometimes still do. So yeah, I think it's uh an important one to kind of um dive into some of those reasons and maybe a little bit deeper under to why, what's happening for the men when they shut down, and often us women think it's personal, it's something that they they they don't care about us, they're not able to um, you know, acknowledge what what I'm what I'm going through, so they just shut down their their you know, whatever the the pattern is in the relationship, there's often an excuse um that he doesn't care and he's checked out, but the shutdown is actually sometimes uh very different.
Shutdown As Emotional Protection
SPEAKER_00Yep, it is. And I'm gonna uh help us to unpack this because yes, hands down, I have experienced this and perhaps would have experienced this half an hour ago in an incident uh hanging at the washing. So um, but things have changed for us, so that doesn't happen. But let's um let's unpack that particular incident later. For now, I really want to just talk openly into what might be happening, right? Like, because in your relationship, if this is pertinent to you, then if you're a a woman, um maybe he's kind of you're you're noticing that it's a pattern where he just shuts down and you can't get anything out of him. Maybe he stonewalls, maybe he disappears. Um and your experience with that, as Amy said, it may be really abrasive for you internally, and that man, he's done that thing again. Um, I can't rely on him. Um, I feel like I'm rejected, I feel like he doesn't care. Um, he uh he's just like his dad, or whatever stories you know are running through your head. And some of those may be true, but most of the time it's not. Most of the time there is an underlying thing that's happening, and you hear us often talk about uh protections and protection mechanisms. So these are emotional protection mechanisms that have perhaps kept him safe in the past, and they also cause further divide in the relationship as well. So they're not good, they're not bad, um, they just are, and we're here to help you unpack that and also give you a way through it. So that's what we're here for to empower you as well, not just to give you the facts and the things that happen, we want to help empower you to develop your relationship to one that has a lot more security, depth, and presence.
Trigger One Correcting His Words
SPEAKER_01Beautiful. So should we start with the first one? One of the the reasons that often leads to men shutting down in relationships? Yeah. Should we do that? So number one is being corrected while trying to express himself. So when a man is opening up and and gets told he's saying it wrong, remembering it wrong, explaining it badly, he often doesn't feel heard. And I know that that's something that I used to do in our relationship back in the day. I used to it used to be like a I I would make you feel like I have to manage you. Um and instead of like leaning in, he starts to really pull back and and question himself because of this energy of like you can't get it right.
SPEAKER_00Yep, and a lot of the times for men it's experiencing I guess being corrected or being criticized or being micromanaged can feel overwhelming and at times disrespectful. So it can feel like you can't trust me. And when a man feels like he can't be trusted, then he often goes inward. Right, his mechanism is to cave in, um, to go quiet, to dissociate, sometimes to numb out, and often what that means is distance because uh remaining close in those interactions could possibly be more explosive uh or more harmful to the connection. So I I I guess we're talking now into um behavioral patterns that come through, um, but I want to hone in a little on being corrected while trying to express himself, and that is the issue here, that's the thing that makes men shut down. That's number one that we spoke about. And so if I'm constantly being corrected or told that it needs to be better or it's this way is the only way, then I'm gonna feel like I can't be trusted, and so that's gonna trigger me into shutting down. So that's number one, and I'm wondering if that resonates with you or if you feel like you contribute to that in some way, whether you're a man or a woman. Um, and um, yeah, just self-reflection is often helpful here too, without pointing the blame right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, it's a good one. And I know that, yeah, as I said, I used to do it in my relationship or our relationship, but I remember I think because you and I operate differently, like I'm usually a fast, quick thinker, I can express myself generally pretty quickly, whereas you are a little bit slower to you know get the words or know what's really happening. Um, what I've learnt is actually, and what we see with other couples, is is it's important to give space to your partner, to your man, so they can find the words because yeah, it's it's a thing, right? Like men do sometimes struggle to articulate themselves, and when we're um correcting you when you're trying to express yourself, um I can imagine it's a pretty horrible feeling because we're speaking for you, it's like a motherly energy, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00But anyway, yeah, yeah, and and then often we've worked with couples where she might say, Um, oh, he's just really quiet and he he can't he can't express himself. Like that's just him and who he is. But then when I speak with him on my own, one-on-one, he expresses fluently and he can totally get to the point. So there's a protective mechanism that's in place, um, because he knows that when he speaks up or expresses his truth, that it's often met with correctiveness, so it becomes um a way of being for him, and then she all of a sudden just sees that he's he's uh chronically shut down, or just um that's just who he is. So she needs to actually assist him with that even.
Trigger Two He Can’t Win
SPEAKER_01When there's something wrong with him, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well that kind of leads to number two, right? Like I think number two is um a big factor of why men shut down in relationship, and it's feeling like he can never get it right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, and this might mimic um a childhood um experience or pattern um that he might have experienced, but nevertheless, um the uh incident that happened 30 minutes ago, it's not really an incident, it's just something that came to mind as we were looking to record this. Um, that we were hanging up the washing together, and I'm trying to support her with that because I know that it's you know her love language is acts of service as well. And when I started hanging up the t-shirts, I did them all. Um, but I did it with the bottom of the t-shirts hang sorry, the top of the t-shirts hanging on the line versus the bottom. So now I'm taking up extra space on the clothesline.
SPEAKER_01So which we've got a small clothesline at the moment, so it's a big it's a bit of a deal. Yes, yeah, like defending myself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like what I'm hearing here is uh a lot of defensiveness right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_00So this is the this is the thing that I'm talking about, right? Is that I've come over here to you know help you, assist you, but then I feel like I can never get it right. So this is number two, and for me, I mean I laughed it off, right? Because this is exactly like our pattern, and we laugh with it now, like it's actually quite funny for us. So we've because our energy is good, because our connection is really sound and solid now, we've had to work on that. But that's an example of something simple. Maybe you know, he's initiated to cook dinner, and he's really proud of initiating it, cooking it, and then when maybe it comes to serving time, um, he's uh maybe I don't know, undercooked the steak to her liking, or oh, you shouldn't have added garlic in there because you know that my son, you know, our son doesn't like garlic or whatever the thing is, how he experiences that, um, if that's a theme where he's getting, you know, constantly criticized and not getting it right, then he's going to likely shut down collapse inwards.
SPEAKER_01And over time, I guess you no longer feel like it's worth giving it a go. Um, because yeah, it's pointless. It doesn't lead to to it just leads to disconnection whenever, you know, I guess attempts are made for the man to yeah, to try. So he's like, what's the point? And I saw that with you, absolutely. Like, yeah, there'd be times where I've I've did again we're we're um we're victims of this particular shutdown mechanism of me criticizing or you know, you could never get it right, and then I never saw you in the kitchen ever again because you were like, see you later. Yeah, I'm not I'm not going in there. So we kind of create our own mess too, right? We we create the half of the problem sometimes. But these are these are you know something to keep an eye on and keep a um awareness of in your relationship if that's yeah, if that's happening for you guys.
SPEAKER_00Alright, number three. Now this one might be surprising. Emotional intensity with no room to breathe. So when conversations escalate quickly and there's no pause, there's no time for space, no regulation, there's no time for processing. Then if a man needs space and time to process, then he's going to go into overload if there's too much intensity there. So his withdrawal becomes his protection once again. And the facts are in that in terms of insecure males, adult males, the majority are avoidant. And when we say avoidant, it it means that they have a hard time processing emotional intensity. It's hard for them to manage, to understand it within themselves. And when they're in the fire, then it may really be confronting for them and they need time and space to process. So if that's not available to them, then their protection mechanism kicks in, which again might be stonewalling, it might be shutdown, it could be withdrawal.
SPEAKER_01And I think that's what I was just talking about about just a moment ago, too, the same scenario is like women can sometimes the be the dominant um abil have have the ability to quickly think, to quickly express, to, you know, overwhelm in these emotional states, become intense, and the man just it does need some space and time. So yeah, it could it makes sense that um when emotional intensity is too too high, the man will shut down, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00And sometimes us men we think that silence equals safety, but for women silence it really equals um uh like a lack of safety for them because they're unheard and that's the exact thing that they're fearful of in relationship. So silence doesn't always equal success. And yeah, like there's gonna be some responsibility pieces here. This isn't all her fault, by the way. Remember, I just want to remind you that this is there's a lot of responsibility on the man here. Um, and we're gonna talk about that um towards the end. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So the next reason why men shut down is being spoken to without respect. So this does not look always look loud or aggressive. Sometimes it's the eye rolls that women can give, it's the tone, it's the sarcasm or the subtle dismissal. So these things that us women can sometimes do to our partners unconsciously, unaware, um, actually can cause a lot of disconnection and and um distance in the relationship for sure. And the and the guy uh struggles to express uh what's happening for them and just goes into protection again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Someone asked me the other day, what's the biggest thing that harms relationships? And for a man, like a woman asked me this for a man, what's the what's that the the you know the the biggest thing that harms the relationship for him? And I just said respect. Like if he's disrespected and he feels like he's not respected, then that is often a big precursor to the relationship demise and yeah, really collapse over time, and resentment comes as a result of that. And when you guys are in a sea of resentment between each other, it can feel horrible, like horrible and trudging through the mud sort of feeling, and I'm alone and I'm isolated. And so for a man when he's not feeling respected, then I think that it goes back um to past generations and way beyond when if he wasn't respected, then he didn't belong and he didn't have um he he wasn't in his throne as the king, right? As the provider and the protector. So yeah, it can feel really jarring for a man to be spoken to without any respect.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, spot on, same as women. Yeah, but yeah, obviously this is all about the man, but we yeah, we us women can, like I said, do it without uh awareness and yeah, it's it's challenging and I think there is needs to be a c accountability piece for the woman here too, to treat your man a bit more like a king and not um yeah, so much with so much disrespect.
Trigger Five Only Seeing Faults
SPEAKER_00Yep, yep. And the fifth and final point feeling like he's only seen for what he gets wrong.
SPEAKER_01That wasn't you, is it, babe?
SPEAKER_00So yeah, it was, it was me. Like I really did see it that way. I felt like I I just couldn't do anything right, and or maybe I just wasn't really receiving the appreciation for the things that I was doing right, and that's a clue to how to reverse this, but men don't shut down because they don't care, they often shut down because connection has started to feel like pressure instead of safety, and I just really think that if we're gonna continually feel pressure, and the pressure is through pointing out all of the flaws, then what are we doing? Like, what are we doing in this dance together? Because like, why would I be here? Is the question that a lot of guys start to ask. I'm not feeling like I matter anymore. So, yeah, that's a really critical point. Um, if he's seen for only what he gets wrong, and he's not really ever seen for the things that he's getting right, even if he doesn't get it right, and this is the the other point, it's is he attempting to get it right? Right? If I'm attempting to help you hang the washing out, then perhaps a little bit of appreciation.
SPEAKER_01You should just be doing the washing anyway. No, just kidding. No, but you know, yeah, yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00It's uh it's a good example.
How To Slow Shutdown Down
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I guess that the truth is is that um it doesn't mean that that these things should be avoided or s or you should like completely stop them. It does mean that that maybe standards could be lowered a little, maybe you could notice things like Michael said, like really speak into the appreciation. Um we'll talk about that a bit more. But um because the very thing, I guess, what we've found, and what I guess in our relationship and others is that men long for this connection, they long for presence and and and they want to love you, you know, but sometimes us women make it hard or more difficult for um them to for the men to love us. So just notice, I guess, how your your part is playing in this um and what you can do, and let's maybe dive into some solutions to helping your man to stay open and not shut down.
SPEAKER_00Cool. All right, the first thing that I want to share is slowing the moment down. So for him, right? This is a tip for the man. Notice when you're about to shut down, and this is hard, like this can take a little bit of emotional maturity, but notice when you're about to shut down and say something like, I'm getting overwhelmed, I want to stay here, but I just need a moment. So that's then communicating, firstly, kind of to yourself, like, hey, I see what's erupting internally, and I want to stay in this. So that's communicating perhaps to an anxious partner. I want to stay in this, but I need some space, I need some air. Like I'm feeling like it's not even just to an anxious partner.
SPEAKER_01I just so any partner is helpful, I think. You know, just to reassure them that they're not disappearing because they don't care. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think it's important. So I think it's us that comes sometimes can just jump to conclusions there. But if uh if yeah, if we're trying to work on this and change the dynamic, then it's really important to kind of have some compassion and pr and patience as well to to shift it.
SPEAKER_00Cool. Second one is shifting from correction to curiosity.
SPEAKER_01I got good at that, eh?
unknownI reckon.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you definitely definitely you definitely own that. It took you a few years, but you know we I'm taking ownership of I'm taking that, you know. You're gonna claim it.
SPEAKER_00Claiming that one thing, so we're gonna claim it, babe.
SPEAKER_01Because I've seen the work that you've done in that area and because it's actually very interesting when we try and change from correction to curiosity, because I actually am very curious about why you do things the way you do sometimes.
SPEAKER_00You are.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and but it's helpful because it doesn't mean that there's only one way to do something. Because I think sometimes I've got the only way. Um my way is the right way, your way is the wrong way. So I can't understand why your way, but I'm yeah, definitely more open to helping um see your side as opposed to cor correcting you or criticizing you.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful.
SPEAKER_01Thanks.
Curiosity Appreciation Embodiment Repair
SPEAKER_00Number three, acknowledge effort before outcome. So this is for her, this is what I was speaking about before. Men shut down when they feel like they're always getting it wrong. So can you give them a sense of acknowledgement when they're attempting to get it right? I can see you're trying here, is something that you could say. So that alone will help him to stay open longer.
SPEAKER_01Yep. This really is also about like the the balance of masculinity and femininity as well, like in relationship, because I feel like this help this, if we can get this dynamic right and and help men to not shut down, then it also encourages their leadership. And us women can kind of like what we're craving and what we've talked about before is like being a little bit more of um yeah, of the the role reversal where the man is the leader, the man is the the king of the relationship. So um we have to also take our our part in helping them to step up into that more. Yep. And these are some of the ways.
SPEAKER_00Uh number four is stay connected to your body. So this is for him because we've got to remember shutdown is a protection mechanism, it is a nervous system response. So this is why I practice this with men in as part of our brotherhood that we run. Um, it's all about embodiment, it's breathing slower. Feeling your body, um, experiencing your breath and honing in on that, staying present, even though there's chaos out there. And the more that we can sink into regular embodiment practices, the more that we have awareness on our own nervous system and the state that it's continually moving into.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and helps him to stay in the room and not disappear, yeah, in that uncomfortableness. The last one is creating safety after conflict or rupture. You know, it's not about never shutting down, it's about repairing faster, and we've talked about this before, right? Like, um I think you know, the the dynamic of when men shut down, it's actually him owning that part, taking responsibility and saying, I I I shut down before, but I do want to understand you. You know, this might this might be later, obviously. It's not right in the moment. Um, and and I guess that's really important for the the the partner, the female, to kind of receive that without punishing him, you know. It's like, oh yeah, about about time he came back, you buddy, uh or whatever that is, but just actually congratul like uh not congratulating, but um encouraging him to recognize that part of him that's probably shutting down because of protection, and saying, Hey, thanks, thanks so much for coming back and and um repairing that because it helps to build that trust, right?
Support Options And Closing
SPEAKER_00Trust and and connection, yeah, for sure. So I hope that's given you some clarity, and it probably makes sense and probably lands for you guys if this is a dynamic in your relationship, so you know what the solution is, right? Men don't learn to stay open because they're told to, they learn to stay open because it becomes safe enough to try. So if there's a safety established, and this is why couples come to us, because we can help them to change the pattern through safety. So we become the surrogate safety net, and the couple is able to start practicing open relating, right? Where they're able to safely and consciously communicate to each other truth, and for it to land safely so that each of you can feel heard, feel seen, be acknowledged, not be criticized, constantly knocked on the head, and you guys spiral into further resentment. So it does sometimes take guidance, and if you feel like you're stuck in this dynamic and you don't know really how to get out of it, and maybe maybe you have a go at these and you just see if you can shift these things. But if you feel that you're stuck, make sure you sing out because we can offer you a clarity call to give you some strategy into helping with this, and that's what we do day in, day out. So, you know, it is our expertise, we've been through it ourselves.
SPEAKER_01Um, I think I've got a few free resources as well. Um, so yeah, I can always flick you something to have a bit more of a read to to shift this. But I think it'd be good to do a p an episode of on the opposite. Maybe we can do next time. Our next episode might be like five things that men do to make feel women feel unsafe.
SPEAKER_00Without realizing. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Without realizing it. So that could be a good one. So maybe stay tuned and we'll share that in our next episode.
SPEAKER_00All right. Thanks for listening, folks, and we'll catch you on the next podcast.