Dravon James - The Most Effective Ways to Increase Your Happiness Quotient

Are you happy? If so, give yourself a giant pat on the back. These days so many of us are stuck in the despair of unhappiness. There are so many reasons why: troubles in our personal life, sadness about misery in the world or a general feeling that life isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. But instead of dwelling on all that negativity, imagine how great life would be if we focused instead on being happy.

    Of course, the big question is ‘How’? And for that, I turn to Transformational Expert Dravon James for advice on this episode. She shares all her tips for living a happy life which include:

·      Learning how to exercise your ‘happiness muscle’

·      The quickest way to bounce back from feeling unhappy

·      The trick to rewiring our emotional state

·      Why it’s important to live in the present

·      The act that saved her when she was in the lowest period of her life

·      How to get rid of suffering for good

·      How to practice the art of smiling

If you’re feeling a bit low or simply want ways to keep that smile on your face forever, don’t miss this joyous episode of Dream Power Radio.

    Transformation specialist Dr. Dravon James is the Founder and Director of Everyday Peace. She is the author of Freedom is Your Birthright, host of Dr. Dravon James Everyday Peace on MindBodySpirit.fm, coach on the SiriusXM Road Dog Trucking Show, and an actress whose career credits include a recurring role on HBO’s acclaimed The Wire.  

     A leader in the healthcare industry for more than three decades, she is the recipient of the Secretary McDonough Coin of Recognition for her leadership efforts to combat the COVID pandemic. As the founder of the Next Step Leadership Academy, Dr. Dravon uses this training and experience to lead women to their next level of greatness in life and business using the power of Everyday Peace.

Website: https://drdravonjames.com/

Chapters

• 0:13 The importance of being true to yourself
• 6:35 Managing stress and negative thoughts
• 15:24 The power of language
• 20:22 Living in the now
• 21:37 The importance of stillness
• 22:29 Gratitude as a Tool
• 25:23 The Power of Physical Exercise
• 27:00 Creating a Smile Journal

Transcript

Announcer (00:00:04) - This is Dream Power Radio, the place where your dreams turn into reality. Here is your host, Debbie Spector Weisman.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:00:13) - Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to Dream Power Radio. I'm your host, Certified Dream-life Coach Debbie Spector Weisman. This is the place where we talk about dreams, both daytime and nighttime dreams, and how you can use them to make the internal shift to a life you love and rediscover the truth of who you really are. When I was a little girl, my older sister created a piece of artwork and hung it in her bedroom. At the center of the picture was quote from Shakespeare: To thy own self be true, written in beautiful calligraphy, surrounded by a border of colorful flowers. I thought it was pretty and being a kid that got hung up on the word ‘thy’ I was not really sure what it meant. The picture stayed there for years, even after she went off to college and I inherited her room. I never paid that much attention to it. Something I wish I did as I look back on it now.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:01:06) - The phrase is simple but deep. Be true to yourself. Live your life with integrity. Don't let others make decisions that are within your power to make for yourself. If I take those words to heart back, then how much different my life would have been. It took me decades to load the lessons behind that expression, ears in which I shoved my needs and desires behind those around me. Years in which I let life run me instead of running my own life. But that's the old me. Fortunately, thanks to working with my dreams and using other modalities, I understand myself better and now choose how to live my life. And as a result, I'm happier now that I've been in years. I realize that that puts me in the minority these days. Study after study has shown that Americans in particular have become a pretty unhappy lot. One reported the case is only 19% of us say they're very happy, and that women in their 50s tend to be the most unhappy of any group. Talking about the reasons for this will probably take up the entire episode, but as you know, I'm all about looking for solutions.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:02:15) – So I’m turning today to one of my favorite experts on how to create a life well-lived and full of happiness: Transformational Specialist Dr. Dravon James. Dravon has devoted her life to helping others create their dream lives using her philosophy of Everyday Peace. She's an author, inspirational speaker, coach, podcast host. I'm so excited to have her back on Dream Power Radio. So welcome back, Dravon.

Dravon James (00:02:44) - Well, Debbie, I'm super excited to be here. It's my pleasure. I'm happy to see you again. It's been a while and I'm super happy and excited for this topic. I know people are going to resonate with this.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:02:54) - Oh, I certainly believe that. That is so true. So I'm going to start off with this. Are you happy?

Dravon James (00:03:02) - I am happy and got to say that it's not to say that oh, nothing wrong happens in my life. People are always, if I have a bad day, people know I'm the happiness lady said, oh, that's going on. You know you're not happy right now.

Dravon James (00:03:15) - Well, I feel that sometimes I get a double serving of troubles in my life, and just like everybody else, I have my ups and downs. However, I practice on purpose, exercising my happiness muscle. So thereby I spend less time in my unhappy state. And so when I get there, I'm not there for long and less frequently. Right? So that's the idea. I'm going to experience all of the emotions just like everybody else, but I'm going to be able to bounce back into my desired state quicker, thanks to years and years of exercising my happiness muscle opposite.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:03:52) - That is so true because everybody thinks, well, if you're happy, you can't be happy all of the time. I mean, nobody could be happy all the time because life happens and there's things. But being able to choose happiness makes all the difference in the world.

Dravon James (00:04:08) - It does. You're right. Life happens. Things happen that really are disappointing. It's all kinds of things. Tragedies happen and we respond to them.

Dravon James (00:04:17) - We're emotionally healthy and intelligent. We respond to those things. But the thing is, we don't want that to settle into us and become how we live our life in this unhappy state. You know, we're going to experience that emotion. We're going to live and breathe through it and give it the time that it needs. And then we're going to go back to our desired state.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:04:38) - Oh, that is so true. But are there people who are actually born happy?

Dravon James (00:04:45) - They are a percentage of the population that actually is born a little bit happier than others. But here's the good news on that. No matter where you are right now, whether you consider yourself the happiest person or the least happiness happy person. The important thing to know is that you and I, anyone, can increase your happiness quotient by 40%. It's amazing. You could be 40% happier today. And why is that significant, you ask? What? Glad you asked. Because the happier you are, the more creative you are.

Dravon James (00:05:14) - That's spurs the creativity juices because you don't have all that energy going to cortisol levels and all this stress stuff. What happens is your parasympathetic nervous system, the part of the nervous system that allows you to be more creative, right? Figure out how to make more money. If that's your thing, figure out how to have better relationships. If you're struggling there, figure out how to have a better health situation. All that happens when you're relaxed, so being 40% happier is within our control.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:05:44) - Yes, and when you are happy, your energy level is higher. And that's what helps promote that creativity and that ability to handle the negative things that might happen like stresses, things like that. But let's talk about stress for a second, though, because most people live very stressful lives, and everything going on today is all about the stress of raising a family, the stress of raising money, the stress of finding a relationship if you don't have it, the stress of dealing with the outside forces of what's going on in the country, all of those things, tend to put us in that state where we find how can we be happy because we're dealing with stress all the time. So what are some of the ways we can deal with that stress? So we turn that stress into happiness?

Dravon James (00:06:35) - Well, one of the things I always tell people is to be aware of it's the stresses are in your body. Because oftentimes we don't realize that we're under stress until it gets to such a high pressure, you feel like the top is going to blow, right? But stress is one of those insidious things that it's like a computer virus. Once it gets root in there, it's working this little magic, if you will, into boom, you explode. And so we want to sort of catch that stress if we can sort of in the beginning. So one of the things I work with my client about doing is frequent body scans. And this could take it could be really quick or it could be really slow. It's up to you and how much time you have, but basically, it's just a body scan. When we started the soles of the feet and go to the crown of the head and we're just checking in, how do my feet feel.

Dravon James (00:07:21) - You don't have to say it out loud, but if you do that spine and you're just looking and you go and have my ankles feel, how do my calves feel? And if you feel any tension, you just stop. You just stop and you just sort of breathe into that space. Ask your body, are we stressed about anything? Because the great thing about the body is the body does not lie. The mind lies all of the time, right? It convinces us to do things because it thinks it's the right thing to do, even though we know in our heart. So we don't want to. So the mind does that. It can be a bit manipulative. The body tells the truth. You get this not in your stomach. Even though your mind is saying, yeah, go ahead, do it, do it, do it. There's a knot in your stomach that says, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. So you just kind of watch where they're stressed, building up in the body and just you don't even have to have an answer for it.

Dravon James (00:08:07) - Is it to ask what's going on and sort of just breathe. And even if it may find that the offending thing doesn't go away, but your body starts to calm down, it allows you to go back into a less stressful state. So doing those body scans frequently, I used to set my phone to go off every couple of hours. I would do a body scan.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:08:29) - Well, you talked about the body, but let's go back to talk a little bit about the mind, because that mind of ours races all the time, even when we're not aware of it. We're thinking things, usually negative things, all the time. And that also helps keep us from feeling happy, because we have all these other worries and negative thoughts going on in our heads.

Dravon James (00:08:57) - Yes. We do want to tell you a quick story about me. Maybe two weeks ago, I was in a very, very stressful situation and someone asked me how I felt.

Dravon James (00:09:06) - And this is the analogy that came right out of my mouth. But think it's so appropriate for our discussion today. So apologize for how gross this is. But so someone said to me, why are you so anxious? I said, in my mind right now it feels like there are a thousand roaches just crawling around, right? The worry was everywhere. It couldn't look to left. It was just all these little bugs just caught the worry bugs in my mind, right? Okay, so if you know anything about bugs, most bugs scatter when you turn the lights. This is what I call the light of awareness. So when that person asked me that and that and that came out of my mouth, I said, well, where does this practice that you do call the light of awareness. And so immediately stopped and I started asking my just paying attention and started asking myself questions. What are you worried about? Let's list it. Well, guess what? Just that question turned the light on the bugs of worry.

Dravon James (00:10:01) - The word bugs started scattering. Because right then there my adrenals, my nervous system said, because I was paying attention to myself, I was no longer letting myself be in this autopilot of worry. I started paying attention. So one thing I tell people to turn the light of awareness on is start asking yourself questions. What are you worried about? And if you can write it down, great. If you can. If you're not in a position to write it down, just say it out loud or I'm worried about the light. Bill. School tuition is due. This is due that student. What do you think would happen? Oh, this would happen. The lines would get turned off. What would happen if the lights get turned off? It'd be dark. What would happen if it was dark? You said. I said oh, I'll be okay. I wouldn't like that. I wouldn't like it at all, but I'll be okay. 

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:10:58) - We're always worried about things that might happen and we put that might and turn it into a fact like, oh, this is going to happen, but we can't predict the future. Wait, oh, it's going to happen. And why spend all that time talking about all those things, when instead you can focus on what's going on that could be happy in your life.

Dravon James (00:11:26) - You're so right. And that's a great question. You say, why do we spend so much time worrying what everything in our environment reinforces worry? And we've been taught since we were little that worry equals preparation. It does not right. But we say worry equals preparation. Aren't you worried that your grades aren't high enough? Aren't you worried that your weight isn't where it should be? Aren't you worried? And so that is energy that we're just putting on, focusing on the bad low right. Instead of reframing that saying, wouldn't you be excited if this were happening? Would you be excited if your grades improved? We need to do to make that happen instead of oh my gosh, I'm so worried that the grades are.

Dravon James (00:12:03) - Wouldn't you be excited? Just a question. Wouldn't you be excited if your relationship improved? Be excited. My relationship improved. Now you've given the brain something to think about. That's not worrying. Now your brain is thinking possibility. What can I do right now to make that a possibility? Instead of I am so worried about this scary future. If this relationship doesn't work, or if these grades don't improve, my diet doesn't improve. No, you ask about what it is that you want, right? And you and I find most effective is asking feeling questions, right? Because we're exercising our happiness muscle. Wouldn't you be happy if this were happy? Be happy if that would happen. Answer the question. The answer? Yes. If the answer is not well, there's no way that's going to happen. And ask you what the probability is to see the mine will do that. The mine will start talking about the probability. And then you have to go back and talk to the mine in a loving and gentle way, is it not about what the probability was? I asked, would you be happy? Let's just deal with that in the mind will reluctantly start to follow you down that pathway, but it will follow because you own the mine.

Dravon James (00:13:18) - The mine doesn't own you. They say that a restless mine is looking for a place to settle. It is not looking to be restless. But until you command it, give it a direction to go in. It will vacillate between one worry to the next word from the past to the future, never settling in the present moment until you sit it down and what you think of the mind like this of a two-year-old who's tired and needs a that they never really just go lie down. They're running from this toy to that toy they're grabbing at this. You have to pick them up, put them on there in your lap, rub their backs. Our mind will give us that same side of satisfaction, present moment satisfaction when we ask it, present moment feeling questions that bring it to the to the present moment. Wouldn't you be happy in here? The only answer is yes.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:14:09) - Absolutely. And that's a great question to ask and a great question to end this segment. We are talking all about happiness with Dr. Dravon James.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:14:56) - Welcome back to Dream Power Radio. I'm your host, Debbie Spector Weisman. And we're talking all about happiness with Dr. Dravon James. Well, right before the break, Dravon, you were talking about asking ourselves these feeling questions to get to that point where we say, wouldn't you be happy if this is just a wonderful way to phrase things? And it brings me to talk about the power of language, because so often we're not feeling happy because we phrase things in a negative way. And so talk a little bit about how we use language to help make ourselves feel happy.

Dravon James (00:15:39) - Yeah. So the power of words so very important. So let's just talk about the power. What we're accustomed to. Words make us worry. Oh it's going to be a snowstorm tomorrow, right? I don't have any milk and bread. They make us worry. Right now the stock market is dropping. Oh, my gosh. My whole long-term plans in the stock market. Words make us worry. We know that. But we're not consciously aware of the all the time. You know I'm leaving. You worry right. Those words make us worry now if the words have the power to make us worry and mean. Keep us up at night. Worry, lose weight, worry, lose hair, worry. They cause worry. We know that. We see that all around us. But what we don't consider, what we don't hear a lot of conversation about is that the words and we reverse work two words in reverse.

Dravon James (00:16:31) - Words such as the phrase wouldn't you be happy? Or this is no big deal, you survive worse than this, these things, and this is no big deal. First of all, acknowledges that something is happening. I love using that phrase with my clients. This is no big deal because what is this? Well, let's talk about what this is. Oh my gosh. Have you ever been in a situation that was similar to that? And we started going through their life story, and people love to tell you how bad their life's been. And you can say, oh my gosh, you went through that. You're still here. Well, you go through this. We have to be our own great historian. The good thing about being your own great historian is that that stuff happened in the past. You're talking about it which makes you the victor over that, not the victim, the victims. Not here to tell the story, but you're here to tell the story and start living in that. Oh my gosh, I thrive through that.

Dravon James (00:17:26) - I thrive that pretty soon you're sitting up tall, you're pushing your shoulders back, your chest is up, and you realize that this too shall pass. I am fine, but words can do that. So words take discipline. And that's why I say exercising the happiness muscle for far too long. For many of us, we're accustomed to using a pessimistic view, thinking that that pessimistic view helps us to get prepared. It puts a shield of defense around us. It does just the opposite. It lowers our resistance. We get sicker, we catch more flus and colds and all that stuff. So you can read all about that. There's a lot of science behind it. And the true test is that those words make us feel like we're not enough. I don't have enough. I'm not supported enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm not pretty enough. I'm not rich. And all the enough that you can think of those words. Do that.

Dravon James (00:18:29) - You have to practice. Start writing down positive words. And a book called The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale. I read that so many times when I was a teenager, and he gave a list of words you could say, and one of my favorite words was tranquility. I love the way it felt in my belly when I said it. But start writing down your list of words that make you feel strong, make you feel powerful. Make you smile right? Start writing those words. Use the power of words to reroute your emotional state. Your creativity will go through the roof. You'll be solving problems that you don't even know you had. Wait a second. But so you'll be doing some amazing things for yourself when you change your words. Sounds easy, but it will take practice well.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:19:24) - Everything that's worthwhile does take practice, that's for sure. I love the way you said tranquility. You're singing it.

Dravon James (00:19:31) - Yeah, and I've been doing it. I read that book when I was 17 years old, and that was one word. And then the other word was serenity. Oh my gosh, I hear those words. And I thought to myself, oh, that's what I want. That's what I want. We'd be happy right now to have this whole environment be tranquil. Yes, I would, and here's the question that way. And then my mind automatically starts looking for peace and calm in the middle of chaos. And guess what? It always finds it because it's inside of me. It's inside of you. You'd be amazed.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:20:08) - I know, because it's like you should say all that negativity is in there. All that positivity is there too. It's just hidden. We have to let it out. Dravon, how much more happiness lies in living in the now?

Dravon James (00:20:22) - All of it. I'm so glad you brought this up. You know why that is? Because all of our power exists in the now.

Dravon James (00:20:31) - I don't know anyone that who has the power to go back and change yesterday. Not. We can't go back there and put the money that we spent on that personal exchange. But we can't change the event. We can't go back and change that event or the words that came out of her mouth. And nor can we jump ahead in the future and change things there. But right now, in this moment, we are completely powerful, right? We get to decide when we're conscious and aware what we're going to think about. We get to decide what words are going to come out of our mouth. And we just talked about how important the words are. And sometimes I have this post-it in my car. It says until I have something meaningful to say, I will say nothing. But meaningful means equal, have equal size. Meaningful equals optimistic. So not meaningful dread not meaningful pessimistic. And sometimes I'm like yeah, I got nothing. So just be quiet right. And so that that's a good choice I'm making a conscious decision in my present moment that can't think of anything optimistic right now.

Dravon James (00:21:37) - So what I'm going to do is I'm going to be quiet until it comes to me. There's so much power in stillness. You'd be amazed at that, too. So all of our power in this present moment, the power to choose the words that are coming out of our mouth, the power to choose what is happening with our facial muscles. The idea that I could frown, right? Or I could smile. Right. Smiling feels good. Smile. I could sit like a bump on a log. Or I could get up and move my body. And move some positive energy around. Wiggle my toes, wiggle my fingers. I could do that just to start moving the positive energy around things that we can do in the in the present moment. I can make a list of all the things that I'm grateful for, no matter how small they usually the smaller the better, the smaller the better, because that means you're getting to the root of things. I'll tell this quick story. In 2015, I had what I call the trifecta of pain.

Dravon James (00:22:29) - I lost my job. My marriage of 20 years was beginning its exit in my life, and I got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. And I have a practice every morning. I would wake up every morning and I'd write a gratitude card. I had to write three things that I'm grateful for that happened yesterday, and three things I'm grateful for that are going to happen today. And I looked at that card for the first time in many years. I couldn't think of anything to write. Tears streaming down my face. And in that moment, I said, I'm grateful that I can blink. And I get so excited. It propelled me out of the bed so that when you dig deep, you realize there's some fundamental things that that you've not been using as a tool. Those are tools in your tool chest to help you along the way. It will make you more powerful in the present moment to face whatever it is that you are capable of facing. And you are a powerful individual. You are. Tell your own story. You know that you are. Absolutely.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:23:28) - And I'm so glad you brought up the whole idea of gratitude. One of my favorite things to do is to express gratitude. When I’m coaching people. I'll tell them. Write down ten things you're grateful for, and they get this blank expression. And I’ll say, start with are you grateful to be alive? It's just start with that or start with anything. 

Dravon James (00:23:52) - I know there's someone listening to this program because I had a client today who said to me, well, no, I'm not grateful to be alive. My life just sucks, right? I said, okay, okay, I get it, I get it. So let's just say here and I understand I'm not going to diminish that because we've all had those days where what am I doing here? Right. He's like Job from the Bible, right. What am I doing here? Could it get any worse? So let's just talk about this.

Dravon James (00:24:13) - Are you grateful to be able to breathe on your own since you have to be alive? Are you grateful that you can swallow? I mean, you're alive after all, but you're swallowing on your own, and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Dravon James (00:24:27) - When we really become aware of everything in the universe, as Einstein says, that is conspiring for our good. When we really become aware, all the stuff that is happening for our good. We sort of feel like, oh. I got sent in to work with. It's all good all of the time. This is life. But doesn't mean that we had to be terribly unhappy. Is life does what it has to do so that we can learn the lessons that we have to learn. My cousin used to say that there will be disappointment, there will be pain, but suffering is not. And I equate suffering with unhappiness. And when I'm unhappy, I am suffering. I will be unhappy during this journey, but I will spend less and less time in the state of unhappiness and more and more time in the state of happiness, as I learn to exercise that happiness muscle.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:25:23) - Well, speaking of exercise and speaking of muscle. Is actual physical exercise also a way to build up that happiness muscle?

Dravon James (00:25:34) - Yeah. It stimulates that dopamine in the body. Neurotransmitters in the body. They called the happy, you know, happiness neurotransmitters. And you'd be amazed. You don't have to go out and run a marathon. You can go for a walk. And that starts moving norepinephrine and all that stuff moving around in the body, and you start to feel a little bit better. You can breathe a little bit deeper. Your mind is a little bit more clear. You got more clarity, right? And you have to be aware because these things are happening all the time, but because we're not tuned into it, because remember that the world has us tuned to the frequency of worry. It's our job to go into that radio and change the station to the frequency, frequency of happiness. Now you could flip it there for 2 or 3 seconds and get there for 2 or 3 seconds.

Dravon James (00:26:16) - It'll flip right back. That's okay. The more you keep going in there and turning it back, eventually it'll stay on that happiness frequency longer and longer, and it will flip off of that frequency less and less. Right. You'll be able to witness something that's happening that you don't like. Oh my gosh, I wish that wasn't happening. And you'll notice that your frequency doesn't flip all the way over to unhappiness. It's not something I don't feel that your mind was sort of going to go chase that unhappiness. You just have to talk. Say no, no, no, no. It's okay to be here. Neutral. Neutral is a good place to meet.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:26:50) - Absolutely. We talked briefly about smiling before. And you actually advocate creating a smile journal. So tell me what that's all about.

Dravon James (00:27:00) - I do, so I'll use this particular client that I had today. And we are new working together. And they're just now getting their smile journal exercise today. And so I tell people that you are happier than you know you are.

Dravon James (00:27:14) - But because remember, the world has just tuned into the frequency of worry. We got to change our own channel. And so a happiness journal is just something you can take around with you. She asked me today because she used it on her iPad. I said, absolutely, I do like for me, I use a little journal in a pen. I'd like to write it down, but she's going to do it on her iPad. And what you're going to do is you're going to jot down when you catch yourself smiling, it means you're going to be in a state of awareness, presence, presence. Right. You're going to catch yourself smiling. My face. Just do that. You know, for me, one time I was in a park, I wasn't feeling my happiest. And I saw a little girl and some red shoes. Made me think of. Click your heels three times and go home. I can't think of the tale right now, but it made me think of those little shoes.

Dravon James (00:27:59) - They were sparkly. And then when she walked, they were cute little shoes like Mary Jane shoes when she walked. They now sparkle, but they lit up. My face lit up and I said I had my little journal. I sit in that park, and I wrote it down these shoes and that little girl and her muscles moving in those shoes. And the delight that I thought that she must have received in her face when her mom or her dad or grandparents presented her with these shoes that was sparkly and lit up. So that made me smile. And at the end of the day, what I encourage people to do is to go back and look at your smile. Be present as you read it and you'll see your lips start to turn upward just a little bit. That's a nice way to end your day. It's a nice way to reframe a day.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:28:46) - It certainly is. And this is a nice way to end this talk, because I can't believe we're almost out of time.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:28:52) - So, Dravon, final question. How can people find out more about you and your work?

Dravon James (00:28:57) - Oh, you can find out more about me in this awesome work about being happy by visiting my website, which is just my name, Dr. Dravon James. And when you get on that page, the first thing you're going to see is how to become the happiest person you know. Take a look around here. Consider joining our 12-week coaching program, Leaders in High Heels, a shorter way to get to your goal of happiness and achieve other goals in your life as well.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:29:21) - Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for being on Dream Power Radio today.

Dravon James (00:29:26) - Thank you for having me.

Debbie Spector Weisman (00:29:28) - We've been speaking all about the art of creating happiness with Dr. Dravon James. I hope you’ve enjoyed today's program. If so, please hit that subscribe button so you don't miss out on any future episodes. Until next time. This is Debbie Spector Weisman saying, sweet dreams everybody.

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