International Talk Podcast
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International Talk Podcast
The Warlord Returns: Bounty Killer's Brooklyn Homecoming
Bounty Killer makes his triumphant return to the United States after a 15-year absence, reflecting on his journey from dancehall icon to cultural guardian and philanthropist. The legendary artist shares intimate details about his evolution from "cross, angry and miserable" to a social entrepreneur who established the Bounty Foundation to support Jamaican communities.
• Discusses his historic return to Brooklyn, moving from the Biltmore Ballroom to Barclays Center
• Explains his transition from being anti-social to engaging with fans on social media
• Shares the story behind starting the Bounty Foundation in 2018 to support Jamaican hospitals
• Reflects on his role mentoring artists and creating unity through groups like Scare Dem Crew and Alliance
• Provides insight into the recent reconciliation between Movado and Vybz Kartel
• Distinguishes between being a "gatekeeper" and being a "guardian" of dancehall culture
• Reveals this will be his first-ever 4th of July weekend performance in the US
• Emphasizes that loyalty and support are core values in both his personal and professional relationships
This Saturday at Barclays Center, Bounty Killer promises an unforgettable performance: "It's like a bullet out of a gun, and this is one that fermented and very cure. This is one like in the chamber for 15 years. So when this release, Barclays going to become Darkleys."
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Check, check, check, check. One tree, one tree, your Studege and Airpower 105 when I'm here. And it's another historic day, another historic day for New York City, another historic day especially for Brooklyn. Shout out to the Bronx, shout out to the Queens, shout out to Long Island, shout out to all the boroughs. But this is crazy for us in the culture. This is crazy for us in the culture. So, right now, for the first time in about, I want to say for me well, I've seen you when I, you know, fall to Jamaica and stuff, but being here with me on the radio station for the first time, the Ward Lord, aka the general, aka bounty killer.
Speaker 2:Warlord in the middle of that.
Speaker 1:Yo Listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don't think people understand. Like for me, this is not just historic, this is like. For me, this is more personal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Because I've witnessed at least 80% of the Warlord's career. The road, yeah and the development. Yes, yeah, you were there.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, I preached on station.
Speaker 2:RIP to Big Brother Claude.
Speaker 1:Yes, rip to Super Claude, definitely. So. I know everybody's been tagging you Everybody's. So I know everybody's been tagging you, everybody's been posting everybody, and I see that you've been very interactive with your fans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I always try to, Because you know social media should socialize a bit. No, no, no, it's a social space.
Speaker 1:Listen, coming from a person that understands the warlord himself. Yeah, I used to be anti-social. I used to post social media and never get no prep for socializing yes socialization or being a socialite.
Speaker 2:Yes, so this is in social media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is like a learning process it's a learning process and, and and, and I'm happy to see that development because not saying that you are, you know, you know what you say, you are angry and miserable.
Speaker 2:I used to be cross, angry and miserable yeah, but I grow beyond just being cross and miserable out of nothing. It has to take a lot to get me cross, angry and miserable. You don't just come without a cross right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I've noticed you've done a lot and you've been giving back a lot to the communities and you're actually advocating like a real politician. Sometimes I've watched you.
Speaker 2:Well, they said, I'm a social entrepreneur, I'd like to do the social development. You know, I like to see people doing good socially. So for a long time I came from from the ghetto and I know hardship. So I always try to give back and I always try to contribute to the society. And then, recently now, I started a foundation in 2018, the Bounty Foundation.
Speaker 1:I remember that yep.
Speaker 2:But that was because I tried to import some beds for the hospitals and I didn't know about concession and I thought from you're going to give it away, they're just going to make you bring it in the country free. But there was some tax concession for import gas and it was Miss Bobsey Grange who really helped us to get an exemption from the government to bring in the beds. So after that, now we decide we have to form the foundation, so it would be legally a non-profit organization.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we would approach to bring in import things in the country and it wouldn't have no extra cost.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in import costs. Yeah, a lot of times we weren't really educated with that kind of stuff, we just want to help people.
Speaker 2:We just want to help people, yeah, but it takes a little more than just help.
Speaker 1:Bro a lot of paperwork that we don't really care for but we have to do it, but we ain't getting to that part yet. Let's talk about the challenges and tribulations for you, just to get here today. It's a lot, because I've heard rumors before that you actually had a, a visa, but it wasn't a working permit, and you know that's a rumor. That's a rumor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a rumor going around it's something that I said on an interview that I don't want a visiting visa I'm not a visitor I'm a worker. Yes, I have something to have to the culture and people took it out of perspective.
Speaker 1:Yo, they ran.
Speaker 2:And said I've gotten it.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I heard it, but I know the truth it was not offered or anything.
Speaker 2:It's just me make a statement that I don't want a visiting visa. I want a work permit. Yes, because I'm a man who will work in America. I don't see America as somewhere to hang out and chill. Yeah, and if anybody remember me, I don't chill in America.
Speaker 1:I always do my job.
Speaker 2:I'm back home.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm Mr Jamaica, mr Jamaica, and I reside there in Jamaica, in Jamaica, yes, but I love to come to America and do my work, and please my fans and that's just.
Speaker 2:That's just the assignment.
Speaker 1:Yes, 100%, because I just want to clear clear that because a few people actually yeah that's good when you actually speak to bunty, figure out why he did that, and I me telling them they don't believe me I know I only have one american visa.
Speaker 2:It's a work permit. Yes, I have no visiting visa.
Speaker 1:So, everyone, that is clear, that is clear. So now, now, now, let, let's, let's, let's, let's talk about you seeing all your children now actually growing. Yeah, and what I mean by children, I'm talking about musical children yeah we're talking about the wine yeah, yeah, that's what I thought, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't, I don't people. All right, so let me, let me start from this, because I, I, I, I know this history and I know this business, different from a lot of people. So you, as Bunty Killer right, people don't know that. You kind of I'm not going to say you started, but to me, for me, this is my opinion and what I've seen you've started with bringing youths on the stage, showing them this, showing them that, making the teams, making them understand like yo, this is what we're doing. Get on the stairs, because, as me, seeing bunty killer, I didn't really see too much people do that for bunty killer nobody never done that for me.
Speaker 2:No one has ever tried to groom me or mentor me. You understand, people assisted me, but no one never take me under their wing and said do it like this, do it like that, do it like that.
Speaker 1:I get a little advice here and there Am I correct as I speak right.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, I'm not the first person who try to highlight persons, but taking them under your wing and guiding and grooming them, because call on a person on a stage and they get a little highlight tonight or tomorrow and then the next week or month nobody sees them. That's not really helping them to develop. Yes, just giving them a highlight. I took people under my wing yes my brothers, guide them, groom them, assist them financially show them up with the doppler everything, yep, everything.
Speaker 2:I even sacrifice recording for people who wants to pay me to record because they refuse to record the younger ones, yep, so it was just something that I think of giving back to the music and the culture and it all caused because dandemite was more like not a mentor, but a brother, a support.
Speaker 1:Yes, 100%. Who was there?
Speaker 2:to give me a little advice and suggest things, and I took it and this is what it came. Bounty Killer came from just two words of encouragement from a friend, boom Dandemite. So that's how I ended up bringing Scare them, because Dandemite was a part of Scare.
Speaker 1:Them. Yes, he was yeah.
Speaker 2:I insist that Dandemite has to become a superstar. So that's how it all started from helping and then it became mentoring, because I never knew I was no mentor.
Speaker 3:I was just being a brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah, and then I started to do it and it became this trend and tradition thing. So, the alliance came after.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is in general. I don't think people give you the credit like they should.
Speaker 2:Some people does. I wouldn't say I get enough or as much as.
Speaker 1:I should. Can I just give you?
Speaker 2:your flowers right now, bro Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Give me a second, all right. I personally don't believe people give you the credit for what you have done for the next generation. They know that you did it, but they don't understand that it's something that no one taught you to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you did that on your own the type of highlight I should get for it. I didn't, but Leave that alone. I never do it for highlight or for a reward or any award. I just do it Out of the wisdom of my heart, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:But a lot of people Didn't know you. A lot of people Never knew Bunty actually has a heart. They always think you were just angry.
Speaker 2:I'm a Tesla gangster, yeah, a Tesla gangster, yeah. I plug them things in the plug.
Speaker 1:So I just want, as I say. If I say, I just want to give you your flowers right now for that.
Speaker 2:That's exactly where you came from For that?
Speaker 1:Because, remember, we've seen the bunty killer in Biltmore, We've seen the bunty killer come to New York and Addis Afrique, this and that, and in the middle of wars and all kind of thing. You know what I'm saying. I was there. I was there with the Roosters and Rebs and all that, and you had to stop them and tell them yo y'all chill. I saw you do that. You know what I'm saying. You put yourself on the line for a lot of things that people don't give you praise for, and I just want to give it to you before we continue this interview.
Speaker 3:I just want to give you your flowers. Thank you, bro, all right.
Speaker 1:Everybody give Coach a clap because he deserves that. Yo, all right and I appreciate that. So, going forward now, as in you gearing up for you know, the biggest you know show right now in New York for the whole holiday New York for the whole holiday, one of the biggest in my career.
Speaker 1:This is a major holiday weekend right here, and to know that, you know you are back inside of Brooklyn also, that's different. Bk back in BK. Bk is back and this is what we're talking about. You know BK is Bounty Killer. You know what I'm saying. Well, if you know, you know bk is bunty killer, you know I'm saying. Well, if you know you know, no, no, a lot of artists impacted bunty killer, like, like, impacted, like how you like they want to be this, but bunty killer impacted brooklyn. I was there, I seen it. You know I'm saying. I've seen the sounds War, bunty with Bunty, days, nights. Come on, bro, what kind of that's a different history, yeah definitely.
Speaker 2:We gotta shout out To King Hadiz though Yo All day Babyface, yeah, wada, itad, wada, itad. Yeah man, and RIP too.
Speaker 3:Yo.
Speaker 2:Uncle Azzy, I'm gonna Wow yeah Yo. Uncle Ozzy and Gunna, wow yeah, big up the world.
Speaker 1:You don't forget anything huh, yeah, you got a good memory.
Speaker 2:It was Addies and Afriksoundstation who started the Bounty Killer thing.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You understand, and Fergo Digital and Earth Ruler and Soul Supreme and Young Hawk, because Young Hawk is a part of it too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, godfather.
Speaker 3:Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got Harderweight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Jamie.
Speaker 2:And all the other sound systems in New York. But it all started from King Adiz and Afrique. Those are the two first big sounds came from my dub plate in 92. Sheesh, yeah, so they started this Bounty Killer wave in the sound system circle.
Speaker 1:I think there's no bigger artist in the dub plate war when it comes to warring is Bounty Killer. I think that's the number one. Like you can't even go around it, bro, everybody get you know, do that. But for you to be a sound and don't have at least five Bounty Killer dub plates in your box, you're not really a sound. Well, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:It's Bounty Killer, yeah, not Bounty Triller. So it says what it says. It says what it says.
Speaker 1:So now that you're gearing up for the Barclays right and of course you know it's going to be a sold out event we all know that it's crazy because everyone, everyone here is talking about it. We all been pushing it, we all promoting it.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, I see you promoting and giving away tickets. Yeah, and it's like it's.
Speaker 1:Like you know, CJ even asked me like she just doing shows right now with people that I generally have great relationships with.
Speaker 2:So have great relationships with.
Speaker 1:So yeah, she's gonna win for me, regardless if I'm on it or not. So exactly that's just how it is for me, you know. So, cj, shout to you, you're picking the right people for your shows. You're gonna. You're gonna win what you, what's his, the bros. You're gonna win with me. You know I'm saying so. So going forward now. Um, people were thinking that that you were actually not going to do a band, so I had a bet going on right, but why did they say that?
Speaker 1:But the problem was I won too early because they did a snip with you practicing with a band. I was like damn, he came out too early showing them because they didn't understand that Bunty is a band, bro.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why they think we'd go in an arena with a track no. No, that's not Bunty, no some track's gonna play because some artist is gonna work on tracks, but I have a return in concert with a magnitude of this. It wouldn't be suitable to those two tracks.
Speaker 2:No, unless, I'm going to have a band and then I do tracks in between if I want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you definitely have a full set of band Four, yeah, definitely that's how we work. A real concert, if it's in a little club, or yeah of course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the tracks could work.
Speaker 2:But I would never. I never did any tracks in arenas. Are stadiums? Are those places, unless it's just a cameo? Yeah, yeah five song, three song no problem. But if you're gonna do a full set and this set is gonna be at least an hour and a half for me because there is so much- song I have to sing a lot of songs.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of songs, a lot of songs that I haven't sung in years Bro, if you know the amount of artists or themselves or feeling that actually come into this show, because you have impacted a lot of artists in this game, especially New York artists and you know that too.
Speaker 2:You know they're all pulling up for you. Exactly. Come on, what do you?
Speaker 1:mean exactly. You know for a fact, I never got a call they're going to pull up because, listen, this is not something where it's like all right, yeah, man, you might come I can follow that.
Speaker 1:No, this is a person that created history here for us, bro. You've created history for us and of course, we have to support you and show you that we appreciate you. Thanks All that you've done for us in this culture and people don't know sometimes that you actually interact, like you actually answer back. You're a few artists that actually answer back when somebody hits you and talk.
Speaker 2:Well, they are not really people's person, you understand.
Speaker 1:But nah, you're Bunty, bro, like come on. No, I'm Rodney.
Speaker 2:I don't stay in the Bounty mood Right now. I I'm just talking about bounty. I'm more radney than bounty. I'm more radney than bounty. Some people more of their character than their personality. Yes, bounty is just a little thing that I come up with. It's not nothing compared to a person. Yeah, so this bounty thing can get in between me and personalizing with people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the alienated behavior with artists like. I'm more than a person. You are just a person in a better position. Nobody, no more than a body. We have two and we have two foot, we have two ears, we have two eyes. When you have three, and now you have three eyes. Then you're more than somebody, but you're not more than anybody. You got some things.
Speaker 2:More than them or you're in a better position. But me, no, play superstar. A superstar is a job. It's not my character. I'm always in the hood, if you know, 20 Comer, jamaica, you know. See me uptown. Yeah, I only live uptown, but I'm not uptown Facts. So I'm just a people person. I love people more than my music. Yeah, the music come after, the people come first, because without the people the music wouldn't work. Yes, so no career on a music no bigger than the audience. My friends mean more than the royalty check and they created it. Yeah, yes, we know, make the money and the film get in front of the value of a person, especially if one like nari, or artists in nari who contribute to the development of the culture, and he doesn't want to eat him back For what? And Nari's not begging him nothing. I respect that.
Speaker 1:He's not some people who are plaguing and you know, yeah, yeah, people of character and people with importance.
Speaker 2:You have to treat them as it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I respect that, because that's one thing you always did. You always like yo, always like yo.
Speaker 2:I'm a loyal person anybody. I know we have an understanding. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, all of my old school friends from New York we still friends mm-hmm and development of my career has nothing to do with it. When I had ten it's we were for no, I got000. We're even more of a friend. So the career began. A friendship, yo yeah.
Speaker 1:That's how I work.
Speaker 2:If I go to Jamaica and Uncle T come check me, the man who recorded my first song, I'm a virgin, see me. Yes, anything you want me, I go give him it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you understand yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just what played the first rhythm for me and he might come play tonight again, you understand uh-huh all of the people who was there. They are still on board. If dandemite was alive, rip to my brother he would have been right here in this room I believe that I don't leave none of my soldier behind.
Speaker 1:I'm a real general facts, every soldier, I've noticed that, I've noticed that and I've seen you. I've seen you curse them out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you gotta regulate them, check them. Yeah, that's how a general works yeah. Regulation have to be there. But you're not gonna really leave them behind and eliminate them. We just regulate them. But they know it's for their own good and for the cause of the whole doctrine, of what we stand for, the fundamental of the organization.
Speaker 1:How was the vibe when you was with Movado and Cartel together?
Speaker 2:That was a moment, bro. No, that was a awesome moment. That was exceptional. Yo, that was a awesome moment.
Speaker 1:That was exceptional, yo, that was a real moment. The fact that we are in the US. All together. Yo, that was some crazy vibes, man you know, we appreciate you, buju, Don't get it twisted. We appreciate you, but it's a different vibe when you see Bug D.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because me and Buju reunited years ago when he just came back. Yes, when you see, yeah, because me and Buju Reunite years ago when he just came back. Yes, so it was really the reunification of Cartel and Mother, and then me there. What? As their mentor To see it now and you there, cause I was there when they followed up. And then to see the two of them In harmony as brother again.
Speaker 3:Yo, it was just touching.
Speaker 1:Man, great moment, great vibes, and I think people, people seen it but they don't understand.
Speaker 3:They don't understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh my gosh, that's what I'll be trying to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Bounty and Beanie Clash Was more like a sport.
Speaker 3:Sport match.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hold it, you understand, it wasn't that personal Nah Gully and Gazza War Was something serious.
Speaker 1:Serious.
Speaker 2:Social disruption Serious.
Speaker 1:You see, them unified.
Speaker 2:It's a big thing for us.
Speaker 1:Because their era was a little bit. Not saying that your era wasn't violent, but it was more controlled.
Speaker 2:No, because more people, all right. The fans used to have more understanding.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because Bounty and Beanie clash. People who said Bounty loves Beanie and people who said Beanie loves Bounty but they just prefer Bounty over Beanie or? They just prefer Beanie more than Bounty, but they just prefer Bounty over Beanie, or they just prefer Beanie more than Bounty, but it wasn't a case where I hate Beanie or I hate, Bounty it was a case where I prefer Beanie or I prefer Bounty. This era guys.
Speaker 1:I hate Gully and I hate Gaza.
Speaker 2:I don't know where the fans them develop that type of behavior towards music, cause you can't have one artist and say you love music, you love an artist. Loving an artist is different from loving music. Yes, I love several artists, but I have my preference. Who is more talented ones.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't mean I don't rate the other ones who have less talent. So these people come up with political behavior. Yeah, like me a Republican, I'm a Democrat, I'm a PMP, I'm a GLP. It has something to do with political behavior. Yeah, like me a Republican and me a Democrat, and me a PMP and me a JLP, it have something to do with them. Life, yo, the life, bro. So it was something very serious. So we glad when the two brothers decide that it's enough. It's enough and we just gonna move on.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And be. We are big, grown people. Yes, because they are not kids anymore. Nah, nah. So a big man behavior, the man they might give them. Now I'm going to see some bad mind fans that cuss it and then some people that say his money, we do it for bounty killer ever do anything for just the money? Nah, nah, nah. Where on earth people thought bounty killer do things for just money? I do things where I have to get my money, of course, but it's just for the money, or it's a reason I'm doing something and then it bring forth fruits and I collect for my labor. Yep, you have to collect for your labor. I never come into music for money. I came into music to offer my talent and that's what I'm doing ever, ever, since my money don't make me. I make money, and my money have nothing to do with me as a person, me never hype answer. First thing, I don't ever use the word I'm rich I just remember, you was ever rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah because that's not an interest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I'm okay, I'm all right and that's my interest to be okay and all right. Rich poor are stranded.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm all right. I'm all right. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. A lot of people are rich and they're not all right. They're not okay. Yep, they are financially, all, spiritually or mentally them disturb.
Speaker 1:Yep, mentally and spiritually. You're right, they disturb exactly so.
Speaker 2:That's me. I deal with monetary things, I deal with monumental things that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:So I see, I see like, where you know, I see Khaled involved. I see a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, khaled played a big role in getting us in one space, but Khaled couldn't make us unite. If we don't decide to talk to each other, khaled has nothing to do with that. Khaled was the one who put us all on a track and said he wanted a video and we all agreed to be there and then we all are going to link up because we don't have no problem with each other. But it wasn't Khaled who said we're on the phone, we'll unite. No, khaled, bring Jamaican in the space and Jamaicans know what to do with themselves. We're supposed to laugh and gather together like Jamaicans. Out of many one people, one love, not that we say. And then to a mother that been through just like his mother his son went to prison and he got released and cartel won his appeal and then I was away for 15 years from the us. All those our deal. We've been through. Yes, we should sit and remember about gully and god's a fooling ish. How we should be celebrating. Still here and we, okay, still here, are we going forward?
Speaker 2:yes, so our celebration was bigger than just going to do the video for khaled. So when people talking stupid things, we just laugh, but most people they don't have no love, so they can't celebrate love.
Speaker 3:So when they see, goodness.
Speaker 2:They have no goodness about them, so goodness is not good enough, yeah. So the good ones know what we're doing and they appreciate it and they support it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we all support it, because it was a lot of people who just was like yo and they supported. Yeah, because we all supported, because it was a lot of people who just was like yo. This is Khaled and me that understand the culture they don't know, they don't understand. It's not about, and respect to Khaled who loves Khaled. No, Khaled do his. Thing. The big thing that.
Speaker 2:Khaled did was putting us all on a truck and decided he wanted a video and getting us in one space. He decided he wanted a video and getting us in one space.
Speaker 3:And that caused all the unification.
Speaker 2:So, khaled had a big part of it Because he never said he want us to unite. If I didn't want to be on a track with Cartel and Mavada, Khaled couldn't make it happen and I'm sure if Cartel didn't want it, 100% Mavada the whole of us, because we've been places where Killer have not left his dressing room until that person moves, and everybody who knows us knows that four person.
Speaker 2:The four person has a minor friend home. Yes, nobody can make Buju do nothing when no one do. Nobody can make Bonte do nothing when no one do Nothing. Nobody can make Cartel or Mova do nothing when no one do. We have never seen that before. Yes, so why imagine that?
Speaker 1:Nah, you come in the house Because you know what it is. It's like a lot of people just feel like, because it's Khaled and Khaled, khaled, they feel like everybody's moving towards it.
Speaker 2:No, but most Jamaicans don't want to help you. Nobody, neither. We never get no producer called saying he wants us to get up and do tracks like those in Jamaica. If they get Bounty and Buju, they're good. They wouldn't think they need a car to learn a move either, because they just want a thing. They're not trying to make something exceptional. Khaled always wants to make things different and sonic.
Speaker 2:So that's why he always pushes the boundary. And then he's supporting the culture that support him in his early stage and we have to appreciate that, appreciate that so whenever he calls us, we always turned up to support.
Speaker 1:Support support for support, and that's and that's how it goes. Support for support to support me yeah, and that's a lot of people don't understand that part too. The support goes a long way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when them call Khalid culture vulture, it hurt me because Khalid been around me from 1994 to 95, like 30 years ago, mm-hmm and he has never turned his back one moment. And Khalid loved Dan Sal before me know him, that's how I get attached to him. When I play on the big station in Miami, I play in the club, the temple, and he plays a chasse planque. He's supporting us and he never used to have dub play at that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, when we start giving him dub, he starts playing with it. He played with it before, I played with him. That's why we get gravitated to him. I know say up, so that's why we get gravitated to him and now say this man, I helped plug the culture and 30 years ago dancehall.
Speaker 2:No big pandem station yeah, you understand from the kill billy and the david leave. It is them at them time they call it their temple plug dancehall for we. So when him come a fully loaded people, my things are the first that him I enter the culture. But at the first him does get in a sound clash. But him used to be doing it in the club and on the radio, so he has pays his jews in in florida.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's still, yeah, yeah turned around in his glory days and sure yeah, yeah, and that's the key. I mean, if I hear them call me angel is a culture vulture.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, yeah and I'm not saying they are, but I'm saying they don't call nobody else.
Speaker 2:Them call me Angel Lee as a culture vulture. Okay, yeah, yeah, and I'm not saying they are, but I'm saying they don't call nobody else. That means that they have some guts for calling Gotcha, and that's clear bad mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you know anything that people don't. Sometimes they're not a part of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they try to talk a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they try to talk a lot. You know what I'm saying, so I've been through that. So when people say certain things, I just kind of like keep quiet now and argue True, because it don't make no sense.
Speaker 2:No sense, sense less.
Speaker 1:Because, at the end of the day, it's going to help the culture. I'm for whatever's going to help the culture, whatever's going to help the culture that's me and my kids. This culture helps me through my whole life, so I'm going to fight for it Exactly. We're going to battle, we're going to have disagreements. It is what it is. People Exactly. But if it's helping the culture, I'm for it, If you just here to tap into culture and keep it moving. God bless you. Thank you for passing through.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't come back, though. Don't come back. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is, because people just tap into culture to win for that moment. Yeah, you see how it is A lot of people in every industry. Whenever they start to fade down, they come to the culture, and the culture always puts them back up.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and then they leave. Nobody sticks around for 30 years.
Speaker 1:Uh-uh Nah, 30 years.
Speaker 2:So that statement made that up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't even realize it. I was thinking more like 99. I wasn't even thinking 94, 95 with Cali bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I knew Miami 180 tourist spots Damn Got that studio Because I remember the Fully Loaded.
Speaker 1:I remember going to Miami and meeting him a few times and stuff like that in his early days, you know, when he was just DJing. He was a beast. Yeah, he was a beast.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna lie. We brought him to New York City.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Arab attack? Yeah, so, I've witnessed the Khaled. You know Evolution? Yeah, yeah, evolution, and it's like you know what it is, though it's people that don't understand, like you said earlier, your loyalty yeah, so that don't understand, like you said earlier, your loyalty. Yeah, so they would. They would. They would say things about Bunty. Say yo Bunty. You got this truly boy in Jamaica and this and that, and that, and that.
Speaker 1:They don't understand Yo Cal that boy don't work with you. Know what I'm saying? I'm coming from, but they don't know that Bunty said. It's not really where you come from, it's the loyalty that you. You know what I'm saying and Khaled been loyal to you and, just like me, he's way more loyal than a lot of my Jamaican friends.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I can see that I'm not shy to say that. Yeah, a lot of people that I bring to the forefront they're not as loyal as Khaled to me, and it's no problem because you are who you are. And it's no problem because you are who you are. You are who you are. You can't be what you're not.
Speaker 1:I think I'm one of the loyal Bunty killer people in the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I'm going to take my own praises on that right now, no, but you are one of the lawyers, yeah. Yeah, who knows, knows yeah when.
Speaker 2:Bunty says yo man, this is something we need, ever since you's show in love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, of course. So you know, shout out to Cali.
Speaker 2:After Afreeca we're still great friends. Yo, it wasn't a music vibe, it was just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was too personal. Yeah, you got that music now.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you that people that don't understand, like if you, if you know Killer. So just a while ago, when I went to go Greek outside, right, everyone that knows when Killer's talking and certain things, you just gotta wait. You wait till he gets off the phone. You wait till he finishes smoking a cigarette, and then you wait and then he says Wagwan, alright, wagwan, killer. Yo, you know what time I went to Jamaica and stood there banking and just wait for like five, ten minutes. He's talking, talking, talking. And then he look Wagwan, there, I'm there, man, yo, killer, I ain't going to lie, I've raped that with you, bro, I ain't going to lie to you. It sounds funny to you, I know people tell you all the time, but that you look forward that like that, that don't change how you maintain that for so long.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm just just to be like that, bro.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to maintain, I just know how to be myself and stay real yo man, I rate you bro.
Speaker 1:I haven't got a lot here, man and I, and I respect everything you do. The business, and, and and people don't understand it's in your veins and it ain't going nowhere till the end of it. I know you're gonna take this culture to wherever you gotta take it Anywhere around the world and you ain't gonna stop.
Speaker 2:No, I take this culture very serious. This culture caused me a lot of consequences with people you know, People call me gatekeeper. No, I'm an overseer, I don't have no gate. First thing the internet has no gate. Music has no gate. Again, back in the days, jammies' studio used to have a gate Pentos used to have a gate. Horace used to have a gate and every studio had a gate. Now people have studios in their kitchen in their bathroom, in their helper's quarters and in their car.
Speaker 2:So how come somebody feel like he out of music if he can't record all in a car and then you can't have your?
Speaker 1:I don't care yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you can't have your own channel, you can't have your own vlog, so music has no gate.
Speaker 1:No gate.
Speaker 2:Music is in the air, on the net, out in a cyber world. Yes, so I'm not a gatekeeper, but I'm an overseer. I'm a guardian of the culture and if you offend the culture, you offends me and then I might attack. But I'm not no one who trying to borrow nobody. I'm the first one who came and let go everybody that I could. First time I made my label, the first thing we put out was value of death. Check how many singles on it.
Speaker 2:And then you tell me how many pre any persons were a star at the time yeah, I remember that was before scared them crew burst there wasn't a scared them crew and put out 30 singles everybody in a jammies yard, all the dog, my wife, and that's what caused me and jammies them to break up because they thought I was gonna be another john jaloza or steelie or Cleavey, some big producer yeah 30 singles yeah, I remember that that label.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was the first one to try to help everybody and bring forth young ones. I was the one who encouraged Mansa Shaq to become a crew because Because Ghost was a solo artist, general B was a solo, ron Head was a solo. It's me make Scare them Crew. We was all on the street together and working together on the shows and we said let's make a crew out of it. And then you have Captain Barky and we come on. Rip, barky worm them crew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Scare them Crew Mansa.
Speaker 2:Shack worm crew. Yeah, that's that, and then you have Innocent Crew. Innocent Crew yeah, I've seen you. Yeah, so it was a trend that we started. Yes, we first started group up. All right, we had the first one go up on stage and ten artists worked together and me create that in a bum rush.
Speaker 3:you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the time we have ten, you know, one time you know yes, momentum and pandemonium yeah we created that.
Speaker 2:That was a scary style I remember those things we bring. When the show are done, everybody does get peace.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you understand so it's from back in the days. We show them all the unity. When we make alliance, people think we make it to fight other artists. We build our crew for support our surrounding, but we never fight against nobody because Alliance and nobody never clash Like we have Gully and Gaza. Alliance never clash with nobody. It's just Cartel one night time when he leave three of my mother, go at it and Gully affiliate it to Alliance.
Speaker 1:He throw the jobs there.
Speaker 2:And me, and him and himself go to the war you understand, I did not want to even answer Cartel, but Cartel wanted me to answer it.
Speaker 1:Of course he did so he kept pushing it, he kept going he never did a single song, but he knows I listen to it.
Speaker 2:Don't push it, I know, my thing and I know your thing neither. We never created our own.
Speaker 1:But it was entertaining, though it was entertaining.
Speaker 2:It's always entertaining To compete Because it pushes the talent you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jamaicans love them. Conflict fooling.
Speaker 1:But that's what the culture's about Sometimes. Yeah, it comes with the culture, yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's not the best Part of the culture. No, no, no, you understand. Some people love Make it seem like oh, when dancehall clash of the ice element, I lied to mattel, I went, shabba, win two grammy.
Speaker 2:Those are the high points of dancehall yeah when beanie win a grammy, when boogey win a grammy, when coffee win a grammy, yeah, them something there at the high point now, when we're clashing on stage and then these fans have no sense of loving the music and putting personal feeling aside, that's why I I'm not even interested in clashing anymore, because the fans they're misunderstood and they take it out of context because they're always fighting on the artist most of the time. Yeah, and them people nowadays are the vipers. They don't love music, they love hype and they love clout and they love attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that clout thing is too much, but them don't love nobody them even love the artists them. I think a lot of them don't even love themselves.
Speaker 2:They don't love themselves. Yeah, that's why them can't even love the artists when them claim them love. Yes, so them would encourage them to do all type of stupid things. All kind of stupid things yeah, I love my fans. But my fans can guide me and say stuff and the good ones I'll pick up, but they cannot lead me. If it makes sense then I will take the suggestion, but I'm not listening the fans to get I idea or opinion if they make suggestion and it makes sense yeah I'll make sense out of the sense yeah, yeah, and that that's valid
Speaker 1:that's very valid, so so. So now that valid. So now that you're here in New York City after so many years, what are we expecting from Bunty Killer Saturday? That's what I want people to hear. What are we expecting from Bunty? I know what to expect. They need to know what they're going to expect.
Speaker 2:The younger folks might not know, yes, so we'll have to remind them, but it's always a magnitude and a euphoria and a pandemonium bounty killer. It's like a bullet, you understand? Have you ever seen a bullet flying straight out?
Speaker 3:of a gun. Have you ever Imagine that?
Speaker 2:It's like a bullet out of a gun, and this is one that fermented and very cure.
Speaker 1:This is one like in the chamber for 15 years.
Speaker 2:So when this release when this quiz Yo, lord, so Barclays going to become Darkleys, so you should go get all your black suits and your black boots.
Speaker 1:Yo, okay, you know how much people are going to be in black For real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know that right how many shades I'm wearing my shades right now, bro, all the dark glasses, and all the shades, and all the boots and the suits, go, get them New York Go get them.
Speaker 1:New York, listen Barclays. This Saturday, the Ward Lord Bounty Killer returns to Brooklyn Listen. Finally, and it's crazy, they falls on Independence Weekend. Yeah, so that is now the official. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2:If you can remember history, I never performed in the States for the Fourth of July weekend before. I believe that I always try to avoid it. You know why Pie, pie, pie yes. This is going to be my first 4th of July weekend concert in the US.
Speaker 1:Especially with Bounty in.
Speaker 2:Brooklyn.
Speaker 3:That's why I always avoid that situation.
Speaker 2:Over the decades. All right, I've never worked in Manchester, in London either, and it was because of certain behavior of the people. They always going to burst up all the time. Nobody never thought you was thinking of safety first. No, but when it come on to your fans and your reputation, you got to really think of safety. I would have never thought of that.
Speaker 1:I would have never thought of like July, you know, f the money. No, it's for the safety of me and the fans and reputation.
Speaker 2:That's fabulous. So this is going to be my first 4th of July weekend concert ever. Wow, yeah, wow, and it makes sense for the return.
Speaker 1:Yo it does make sense Because I said that it was like it should be a festive moment. Yeah, and it is what's wrong with you.
Speaker 2:This is the wall of the general. This is the general, the original general, the only general, you know what I'm saying, yeah, and then from Biltmore to Barclays Bro, from a thousand people To 19,000.
Speaker 1:Everything would just be. Everything would just be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we just want to tell all the fans who used to attend the Biltmore Ballroom kudos to them. They're flying up Because they are the foundation of this fanfare. Yes, yeah, big up to all the original.
Speaker 1:Brooklyn Massive Original.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, the whole of Flatbush Big up, the whole, the whole of Utica Church, regent Nineties, new Lots, 90s, cronites Van der Veer.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Two Firsts Jesus, st Mark's, st Peter's, you know the whole Brooklyn, big up the Bronx and Queens and Long Island and Jersey and Staten, but everybody know BK, bk.
Speaker 1:Belongs to BK, bk and jersey and starting. But everybody know bk bk belongs to bk bk. Wallah, thank you very much thank you very, very much for passing through and of course you know anytime you're in new york city. You know my most definitely, you know you have to from being done.
Speaker 2:We have to come show her face and I appreciate you and connect with the fans. Uh-huh. Now we have to pick up cj miller. Now, this promoter, yes, she has a lot of vision and her expertise and her contribution is exceptional. Yes, yes, it is. Yeah, she's the one who really see the vision to help push this thing To the big stage. And it it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy.
Speaker 1:It's not easy, but we definitely Appreciate her.
Speaker 2:It's a big task for her and we support her and she's doing it big.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we should support her.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, she's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:She's doing the right thing.
Speaker 1:She's, she's, she's definitely Working with, with the artists that I 100% support. So, she's going to get my support anyway.
Speaker 2:You're biased, but thanks to you, man, big up, cj Milan and the whole production team, I'm keeping it real. You got to go with your loyalty, bro. Great things for 2025 and beyond to come.
Speaker 1:Come on, bro. Come on, but just keep it real. This is a real platform. Support those who support you, now everybody. I'm not saying I don't support everybody, some people I just do my part for them, yeah, but you got to support who's supporting you.
Speaker 2:You're right, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:Support for support. Yeah, it's not even about I mean. No, I play everybody's music, I do whatever, but who I know I can count on and they can count on me. They're always my first preference. Yeah, that's how it should go and I appreciate you. Kaboom, always, monte Kela the Walla, that's right. July the 5th. We are definitely inside the building. The Barclays is going to be. I don't even know what to say. It's going to be man. I just know that it's something that everybody needs to be a part of. The witness and, of course, junior Ryder. We don't know where my deal is. Warlord in the building. We are out of here Another time. Right here, where yours truly is your nerd, anything goes. The Warlord. Bum to Killer Brooklyn, that's right. Stop today, respect Banking. We are out of here Another time. Right here, where yours truly Is your nerd, anything goes. The wall out. Bump to kill her Brooklyn, that's right. Stop today. Respect Banking. The crew, everybody Bless up. We got you there. Ha ha.
Speaker 2:Me die. Ya Barclays are fire.
