International Talk Podcast

International Talk Ep. 4 SPICE ! (Bestie Edition)

DJ Norie

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DJ Norie and Nefatari sit down with Spice to talk new music, dating & relationships, Love & Hip Hop and much more.


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SPEAKER_00

International talk, girl, Shuly, DJ, Nori, Nefitari, and Spice. The bestie edition. This is called the Bestie Edition.

SPEAKER_01

Yo.

SPEAKER_00

I can't tell how it made me feel weird when she was like bestie, but I'm not gonna talk about it now. I just feel like you know, bestie is a woman thing to me.

SPEAKER_01

Male besties are the best.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I told him. And he's like, oh no, I'm like, you're weird. Male besties are the best.

SPEAKER_00

I never say they're not best, but I just feel I don't feel you should be calling a man bestie.

SPEAKER_03

You're a man.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, there we go. There we go. What's up, boss lady?

SPEAKER_03

Well gone. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, the queen is in the building.

SPEAKER_03

International talk. So let's talk.

SPEAKER_00

Let's talk. Yeah. So I'll let you start, Neff, because you know I know, you know, this is like a real good reunion for you here. You know what I'm saying? So you go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes, yes. No, I can't believe we have the one and only Spice in the building. I've been following the trajectory from, I mean, I've been following it for years. Years. I'm like one of the real OG Besties. OG Bestie. OG bestie. From Smurf Gang days. Smurf gang. Yo, you're gonna be getting it. Exactly, exactly. So, I mean, just the evolution of your career, you know, is is amazing. You know, did you did you always envision it this way?

SPEAKER_03

No. No. I I what I'm living now, I didn't ever think like one day, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna be the queen of dancer. Oh, I'm gonna be grandma. Like, I just was doing music because I love it. I started pretty young when I was a teenager. Um, you know, so I got introduced to music because of my dad. So he used to just play a lot of Bob Marley songs in the house, a lot of professor nuts. And I was just doing it thinking that, hey, I'm doing music, I love it. I never just say, like, oh, one day I'm gonna do this or that. Like, I was just doing it. So it's like when I see things happening, I'm like, wow. Who would have known?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because your career is so multidimensional, too. It's like TV, music, philanthropy. Yeah, I mean I do it all.

SPEAKER_03

You do it all. A lady with many hats. And don't ask me how I do it because I still don't have my shit together. I'm still sometimes all over the place, scrambling sometimes, but by the grace of God, I'm still able to pull it off. Like so many different hats. I don't know how I do it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, see, there's no secret the grace by the grace, by the grace of God. No, but it even is no secret, but you definitely make it look like it's doable.

SPEAKER_03

It's doable, it's doable, you know.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying, and whoever don't understand like uh how much how much like sleepless nights, how much, how much sacrifice you could actually tell them.

SPEAKER_03

A lot of sacrifice, a lot, a lot of hard work, prior dedication, um, a lot of smart work too, not just hard work, but smart work.

SPEAKER_00

Smart work.

SPEAKER_03

Work smart, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Do you feel like you get the respect you deserve or the acknowledgement? I forget it, you know, guys.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, I forget it. One way or another. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, take it. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

I'm very dominant. Um I know I know what I want, I know what I deserve, and I go for what I want. So for me, um I don't remember what year they officially crowned me um queen of dance hall, but before they officially crowned me queen of dance hall, I was already the queen of dance hall, and then if I know me, I woke. Was it a Sunfest? It was a Sunfest that they did the official crowning, but like before that I was like the one. So, you know, stuff like that is what I mean when I say like I'm just gonna always go out there and do me and do my thing. It's not like wait for an andout or wait for somebody for the community up here. They gonna go out, they're gonna claim it and take it. So, you know, that's sort of what I mean. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, I think you're a marketing genius, that's that's for sure. Like you know how to gain attention and draw attention, and you know what I'm saying? When you campaign and yo, when Spice campaigns a song, what I remember when you remember when uh Nori, when you had the mixtape right before you dropped the mixtape, yeah. You were in the streets in Jamaica, weddy weddy, every dance with the dances rolling through your girls campaigning, then you dropped the mixtape, then you dropped the whole the um the colorism. Colorism, yeah. That was captured. Yeah, captured, yes.

SPEAKER_03

That was 2018. Yes, I remember that because captured went number one on Billboard, and so did the actual project as well, simultaneously.

SPEAKER_05

Congratulations.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so I always remember my two number one on Billboard back to back, which was Black Hypocrisy the Song, and also Captured the Mixtape.

SPEAKER_00

You're talking about the Browning, the Browning, that was the Browning who did that song?

SPEAKER_02

It's not Browning, it was it was not no Browning.

SPEAKER_00

That Browning? I was like, who's this Browning?

SPEAKER_03

This girl. That was my way of protesting. It was my um I just really wanted to create awareness for colorism because I feel like within our community, the dark-skinned black girls get it, the artist. And I say dark skin because you know the black community comes with a lot of different shades. But I feel like the darker skinned black girls just work harder.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_03

So I had to create awareness for colorism because gone were the days where people was in my comments saying, I will never make it this far because of my complexion. Then I say, if me not bleach, I'm not gonna reach, I'm gonna have to turn up my thing, and then I understand, oh, may I make so much money, I'm gonna bleach, and may I have to turn up my ting now, my full-time for my tongue. You keep saying it like as if it was a sport to be a light skin. Like if I don't have the lighter skin, I will never make it in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, it's a European thing, that's like for my like a European thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it was happening in Jamaica. The comments was coming from Jamaica. We see more people there like that.

SPEAKER_00

One time in Europe.

SPEAKER_03

So, you know, yeah, I I feel like as a black woman and I have the voice and the platform, I had to stand up and say something.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I think people were confused at first. I think first when you did it, people thought you were trying to bleach my skin because you're not.

SPEAKER_03

And I did that, was purpose, um, purposely done because I wanted to create uh shock value. I wanted to have the world's undivided attention. I wanted when I post that picture, the word will just stood stock still. Right.

SPEAKER_00

I wanted everyone to stood stock still.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I wanted to have their undivided attention.

SPEAKER_00

I got you.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You got it. You got it, and I did get it, yes.

SPEAKER_00

I think you always get attention from us anyway. I think it's just a given. I think it's a given, it's like it's just what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02

You like when I put the string around you and pull it down. Look like this. Well, yeah, look over this, give me over that.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, for real. So, so a lot of people don't see how much of an influence you are in this culture with certain things, not just your music, and not like how you know you move. For me, it's like you always been in a in I don't want to say it's a weird place, right? I'm trying to find the right words. Find it, do so take a time, don't rush. You you're alliance and like Gaza, both primetime warrior. Who cares what spices here?

SPEAKER_03

Full time, you know. I'm saying tell us the louder for the people in the back. I'm a full-time alliance and Gaza. One general, one bounty, no go wrong bounty. That I'm a boss, that I'm a general dance hall, era that's dance hall. Without dance hall, there's no bunti. Without bunty, there's no dance hall. You can't have one or the other, they go together as a package. Yes, they are the two. They join together.

SPEAKER_02

Remember, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So even with the beef, well, I don't even know if there was a beef, because the fans will make you feel like there's a beef. But we see things that go on for social media and whatever, you know what's a mean now, come on, come go so the left, no right, no daddy. But if you have a boss, I'm a general, I'm a still cigar.

SPEAKER_00

And and and it's crazy. Yo, and and to know, like even when there was a little you kept him off, you probably call over, yeah, where I know.

SPEAKER_02

But how do you balance something like that?

SPEAKER_00

Like, how do you really think about it? How you balance that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and not catch any strays.

SPEAKER_01

You feel me?

SPEAKER_03

There's no strays there to catch. Let's just be very clear. Even when you see like there's a feud between the two of them, like Bonte are the general, him at the boss, him, you know, he helped to highlight Vibes Cartel career whether whatever won't happen. He's tricky and robot.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_03

You know, Bonty's the first person that gave me a microphone in music. I talk about it all the time. Yes. I'm a boss, I'm a general, my motivation, like everything. Like, even to this day, I still get excited when Bunty either comment on my page, if I see him, I'm a big fan. Like, and he's the only human on earth that does that to me. Bounty. When Mr. Like if Bunti go on my page right now and say something, Mr. Lasikin meeting, yes, you're gonna be generalized. I still get excited as if the first time when I met him. That can't change. So I don't know how to explain being in the middle of you know, Bounty and Vibes Cartel, that will just never happen. There's no side for pick. Yeah, uh, me think vibes cartel. I mean, me and knowing cartel and the space where him in a him not in a vibe, no tension with nobody, that man, they're just at peace, you know.

SPEAKER_00

No, but we're not talking about now, but there was a time when it was weird.

SPEAKER_03

You mean like back in the day when they were going?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Back in the days, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But cartel is a change man now.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, definitely. Again, that's a whole different person now, and and a very more, you know, uh social person now. Right.

SPEAKER_03

If that makes sense. And guess what? The funny thing I would say, and just to close the conversation, being around both of them, I've never heard Cartel say anything bad about Bounty. Like, I don't even know when you see the things in past social media, me myself confused. Because you know, you know the love and the reading, happy bounty.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And you know, say bounty read cartel proud the same. So it's like, yeah, there's nothing for me if it go in Adamigla.

SPEAKER_00

But I definitely give I I definitely give both of them respect in a certain aspect because like even right now, they still speak to you like back then, they don't change. Like I'm and I'm talking about myself. Yeah, like yo, Bunti, I need something, but you are all right, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I want to reach every minute you have an axe for jumps. I want to your mom, wow, yo.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, and and the same thing like with cartel now. Cartel is DMing me talking about madness. Yo, good luck. I said, hi yo, you seen that? But you know what I'm saying? So it's it's good to show that. Like even yourself, too. You do it too. Because sometimes when you see like all of y'all actually like something or comment, we'll be like, oh, look at Grace. I'm like, oh, look at her. So who we talking to today? Because this platinum going on here. Who is this?

SPEAKER_03

You get in a little bit of spice, a little bit of grace, like a lataya, like a pumpkin ginger, everything except one.

SPEAKER_02

I'm in my platinum error. Everybody knows I only wear blue.

SPEAKER_00

I'm always blue is for blue. Blue is blue, blue is my blue is for you. My my road, you know.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I feel like oftentimes we plant the seeds, and then when the tree grows and we start to eat the fruits or we labor, we're not taking the time out to celebrate it. So now I'm just in my I'm celebrating myself right now. Go down that went platinum in Canada, and I'm pushing for it to go platinum in the US.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Something like it already did go. Like, I'm just in my platinum era, I'm manifesting it, I'm speaking it into being. I mean, I've planted the seeds, I've done two decades. Like, I just want to celebrate my. Congratulations, man. I'm always working, working, working, working. I need to pause and be like, wow, yeah. I came from homeless, yeah. And you know, from homeless to greatness, like, you know, taking a walk in at the park for do and endure what I have endured in this business for 27 years. Like, it's okay to do 27 years, but to still be relevant after 27 years, that is not a small thing. That's a very big thing. And I also keep celebrating my season.

SPEAKER_01

You should. I don't think people realize how celebrated. I'm sorry, how decorated you are in terms of your awards and accolades. And went to your, you had an event, I think it was for um the release of a song, and you had all your awards out on display. Oh, that is when they come for lover, hip-hop thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they do that's on purpose.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, because they give up hip-hop, they think, they think you just start up hip hop, love, hip-hop, love, hip-hop, themselves, like saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm gonna bring up the one of the things then for them to see it with them too eyes.

SPEAKER_00

Like, like you should.

SPEAKER_03

If I take you outside of Atlanta, not one fan acts for a picture. Like, them love size up themselves too much, like say, yeah. He likes to me and them the pad. Me, they're part of a different category, girl.

SPEAKER_00

I watched it maybe in the early days with you, but I stopped because it's it's just to me, it was always kind of like how like it wasn't, it was just them and then you.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It never was like a little, oh, you know, some of us over here. So it was just you and them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I just I didn't like it because I feel like you always had to fight for yourself like all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and and that's just one of the things where I didn't like either, because it's like people, and I don't even want to make it a complexion thing, but sometimes people, even in America, sometimes when you come here and you accomplish, people want to downplay it or they want to act like what you have achieved is nothing, even if they haven't achieved what you have achieved type of thing. I feel like there's always like a little tuga wara or a tussle, like just accept people for who they are. It's okay to give somebody their flowers, whether you like them or not.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I feel a lot of women is hard to give flowers to other women. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03

No, I not me.

SPEAKER_01

I actually get everybody them flowers as it is whether you like me or not, that I your business. I think people try to put that on you, Spice. That like the fake beef with women. And one of the relationships that I love with you, another female, is you and Pampite. I feel like you guys have an amazing relationship. I feel like your fan base loves it. Anytime you go back to Jamaica, you guys always link up. And as two female artists, I think that's a very, you know, admirable relationship.

SPEAKER_03

And and you know, me have a bigger pampute. And one of the things I love mostly about her and I admire about her is the realness. Because when I say the realness, is because the fans and people will plant seeds and make it seems like, oh, spice this or spice that or spice. She not listen, she deaf to everything. And it takes a real genuine woman or a person to still, you know, be your friend, regardless of you being there and them being over there, or whatever it is. Like Pompa Tina, listen to nobody like she knows business with them and say, Because she knows me. So, regardless of what we always pick up a phone and call each other and talk to each other. So people with the online and I say whatever, but we know each other because we are come from so far. So the genuine love, like even our son, I mean love him like a my son, like he's so super smart and intelligent. I always push him and say, Come my nephew, yeah, the next prime minister. Jazir, like that little boy, there's something like trust me when I tell you. So I really admire our relationship and our friendship. I mean, I was telling her, I said, nobody can tell me nothing. So make me even feel some type of way when they come out and say, like, pompote. That's my real sister.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a real good relationship. Yeah, you're right. I've seen that.

SPEAKER_03

I should talk to people I mean I like, but me still like her but that's that's how we did sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

But is it I have a question for you? But everybody can't do that with me.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't go like that. But just a bumper team, no, I have this thing with her where I you know, me knows she not chat me with them and them something. So, you know, come line on to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have that trust. But you know that's part of this game.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like it's extra wicked for the females. Like, what was that kid by? No, females in the music industry. Trust me. Trust me. Despice telling. It's hard, it's hard. As a female, why like what do you think that's about, Slice? Like as a female.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I don't know. I think a lot of women, they just have a lot of jealousy and envy, and they just naturally bond wicked.

SPEAKER_04

Yo, everybody can go on and say, they just born wicked.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, that is crazy. But come on, man.

SPEAKER_03

I think I think the the you know, one of the things just speaking on female in general and talking about jealousy or like certain little things, this is one thing I hate the most when it comes on to women, and not just women, but I'm speaking from my perspective because I'm a woman, because I'm a woman, because it happened in the male space too. But me and a man, so I may speak based upon the woman then a female will have her run or her time, her space, or whatever, and as soon as things slow down, or you know, whatever it is, then she makes it seem like somebody else will fight her, or somebody like you did your you did a whole run. So why is it, and this is just a question, and anybody even out there can answer. Why is it when someone is doing great, nobody now fight you? But when one little thing might slow down, so I something like me not understand, me just we don't have to explain it. Yeah, we don't have to explain it, but it's just something where we just hate for here, people do us uh here for me doesn't like come on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I agree. I do feel like for men, for example, there are many like kings like in the music, many men doing their thing, right? But for women, I do feel like there always has to be one. You know what I'm saying? Like in terms of women being successful in the music industry, you know, they the industry tends to I think pit women against each other like they do.

SPEAKER_00

What which which part of the industry though? Because in in in hip-hop, there were few uh a few women out there doing their thing. It's a good little amount. I mean, not be a lot, but it's a good little amount.

SPEAKER_01

That's recent though. Wouldn't you say that that like that there's several women out there doing their thing is recent. And even with that, I think they still pit the women against each other, the female rappers. I still I think they still do it now.

SPEAKER_03

With me, when it comes to dancer, I think people have this thing in them, Edward, they have to be like a rival partner in order for there to be root.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I think I don't know if it's a cultural thing, because you know, we come from the era of clashing. Uh, we come from an era of peers. I don't think people understand there is a bounty and a beanie, and there was a ninja or a or a super cat. So it's always uh, you know, I think we come from that era where it is a peer thing. Yeah, there's Shaggy and Sean Paul, there's bounty, there's beanie man, there's vibes cartel, and there's Mavado. I think that's just a part of our culture, yeah. So that's one thing when we always know that people always try to have that thing with me.

SPEAKER_04

I love it, I love it.

SPEAKER_03

If somebody wanna do like a female rival, like a person that like spice under Percy or something, I don't know. They must go, me no. Who would be a good spice? They must be good, they must depend that.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not doing it like never do verses for you for you look for you to for you the verse.

SPEAKER_03

I know who would have gone through so much to have that. Type of energy to put into say I'm gonna do no right nah beef with nobody. I'm just telling you, I've got that space.

SPEAKER_00

Somebody do a versus for spice, right? Let me tell you the qualifications you need, right? You gotta be able to fight.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_00

Because you might get your ass beat if you say the wrong thing and test her the right way the way she feels like. What? What you said? All right. Number two, you gotta have some real fucking hits. Yeah. Right? I know. And you also gotta be able to perform your ass off. You're not gonna do no little whine. That part. And say, oh me, no, me, me, no, no, no. Because I'm like, I can't think, I'm like, who, I don't even know who we have some some good artists in the game. Of course. You have a lot of great female artists.

SPEAKER_03

But what I'm I think what I'm trying to say is if there's gonna be like a two female that's doing that battle, it ain't gonna be me. It's gotta be, you know, so many one, you know, so many other great females out there and someone else. Yeah. Just not Spice, because I'm just go through everything already. I'm not at that space right now to do that in my career. Nori, Spice is in her soft girl era. I'm in my soft girl era feminine. I'm just loving upon myself, like soft girl era.

SPEAKER_00

Who is it? Soft girl. I don't know, Grace, but no soft. Sorry. Yo, tell him. No, I'm not going for it.

SPEAKER_03

Are you saying I have to always be masculine? No, let me tell you something. I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

All I'm saying is girl error. Right. Nori, don't do it. Just accept it.

SPEAKER_00

Let me tell you something. I accept it. I accept how you, you know, y'all.

SPEAKER_03

But you do know grace separate from spirit.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And why are you saying this? What are you about to say? Don't offend me. So you're about to offend it. I get it. The software area. Yeah, think about it.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's it's it's something that you know you work for, you know, to be able to reap your reap your reap your your your fruits of your hard work and you want to relax and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Pamper me, go to the spa. I'm able to do that. I've worked hard. Now I'm working soft.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but that's we don't we don't love that person like we love the other one, bro.

SPEAKER_03

What do you mean? Like so you don't love pumpkin ginger. You tell me you love pumpkin ginger. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I love pumpkin ginger. He said that to me. I just I I just got love for the aggressiveness. I don't know what it is. I come from the aggressiveness. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Like curse it.

SPEAKER_00

Spice will curse you out Monday, and then you know, like, we'll figure it out by Wednesday, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just me. Like, I come from that era of Spice. Like, I love it. You know? But I'm just saying the soft girl thing is cool. Yeah. It works for y'all.

SPEAKER_01

But so, Spice, who does like, you know, someone like yourself, successful woman with dating, who does a successful woman like yourself date?

SPEAKER_03

The person that a successful woman like me is dating, he's probably still up in his father's balls somewhere.

SPEAKER_02

Probably a zygote.

SPEAKER_00

Yo. And she's telling the dirty ass truth because yo, bro. Dygoats. No, seriously. Think of it, right? Who can be like realistically, right?

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm being dead serious.

SPEAKER_03

What am I gonna date if it's giving you like, especially living in Atlanta?

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's it. Well, they man, they're gone.

SPEAKER_02

Jamaican man, them rather worse. God, they're no rhym to cheap on you. I mean, I'm an error though, where I fuck for fuck, but I deal with it. If you're cheaper, maybe I cheat back for you. So, ooh, maybe I got a DX.

SPEAKER_00

But spice you are.

SPEAKER_02

If you like a beat, you like ooh, if it did.

SPEAKER_00

But I I I think that you you can't even date anyone in the industry.

SPEAKER_03

I've never dated an industry.

SPEAKER_00

You can never, you can date. But I've never dated anybody. But I'm saying, like, even if you thought about you might have changed tomorrow and say, since you're a soft girl era, you may want to date somebody in the industry.

SPEAKER_03

I don't want ever. It's me, it's not looking by me, no. It's been never date nobody. I've been never dating somebody in that industry when I get to go through it. Go through the numbers.

SPEAKER_00

Nobody, no regular working class man. It went to the working class, man. Before you start, what can I really? Where can I take her? Right. What can I buy for her? Lifestyle. What can I do?

SPEAKER_03

That's the thing. What can I do for her? There's so much that men can do.

SPEAKER_00

That's it.

SPEAKER_03

There's so much that men can do. But see, men would look at that. For a woman like you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't look at her, don't look at her.

SPEAKER_00

Look at me and talk to me. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me and talk to me. No, no, what men can do for you? Besides sex.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

You, you see how predominant you are.

SPEAKER_02

So when I think he can listen, right? Tell him.

SPEAKER_03

Tell him. Tell him. This is the problem. And this is why I don't date them. Right. Because listen to him talking and laughing. It's not a little funny. Like men feel like, oh, they look at someone like me and say, oh, you have it all. I don't. I don't. Because what do you mean? What am I gonna do for you or whatever? We need a protector. We need a we need a man that's gonna give me that comfort that I can fall back, like I can let go and feel secure. We need the time. We need so many things that has nothing at all to do with finances. We not even reach the finance part yet. But mentally, these men are checked out, they're not there. They're egotistical, they think they have it all part. They don't know how to nurture a woman because it don't take. I'm not gonna look at your finance because my finance is already up there, top tier. So I'm not dating for money. I'm not in that era. So obviously, what else can you bring to the table? Because man love asks you, what do you bring to the table? Nigga, what do you bring to the table? You don't know how to romance me. You don't know my love language, you don't take time out to study me to know what really gets to my heart. You know if you read the Bible? Do you even know God? Do you know how to pray for me? Do you know how to stop me and pray with me? Do you because a man can't lead me if he's not led by God? But a lot of men, they see the image out there and they think they know you. So they look at the lifestyle and this and things, say, oh sh up, everything, she's money, shap, this, everything. She knows him not even know, say, you can bring me home a Kit Kat and that will warm my heart because I love Kit Kat. He not even know, like, it's just the little things that men will never do for a woman like me. The little thing. That's why I'm gonna want them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, listen.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna want them.

SPEAKER_00

The whole time you was talking, you were talking to her. And you suppose you're talking to me. That's why you messed up already. That's why you messed up. You talking to her and you trying to tell me what I need to know. What? Look at me.

SPEAKER_03

Talk to me. Oh, Intel, we're about to celebrate Valentine next year. What? Boy, what? If you don't take your ugly ass face out of like what? Wait, why? Chocolate, a Kit Kat? Nothing? Wait, you gotta give you gotta be a fan.

SPEAKER_01

Valentine's Day came and he didn't get you anything for Valentine's Day. That's what happened? Because I have everything. So that was his.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta understand spice. You you will intimidate the average man.

SPEAKER_03

No, I intimidate a weak man. I just told you if you give me a Kit Kat that warms my heart, how am I gonna intimidate you?

SPEAKER_00

So you mean to tell me now? You and this man dating for six months, and he just brings you a Kit Kat. In his mind, he's gonna think they bring you a Kit Kat?

SPEAKER_03

If y'all didn't have these conversations, he's not gonna think to bring me a Kit Kat because he's watching Spice. You're not dating spice. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_00

So who you?

SPEAKER_03

And that's where most of them always go wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Who did he meet?

SPEAKER_03

Grace. I'm a person, I'm a human, I'm not an artist. You think? So hold on, one second. Hold on, one second. So, what do you think? When my dear woman with my two kids then, the kitchen table, I skino boom, boom. That's your thing. No. Okay, so what are we saying? I know that. It's apples and oranges here. We're talking about the outside person. But you're not outside no more. The moment you start to date me, you're getting to know me as the person, not the artist. The artist has nothing to do with the woman I am at home. It's different. So a lot of men, they get this misconception of who I am or who they're dating, thinking that, oh my God, she has everything. She did say that. No. Get to know the person. Find out my love language. Read a Bible. But back to it. Now that you know that I love gospel, sing me a gospel song. Worship with me. Like it's the little.

SPEAKER_00

No, now I know. Now I know you like Kit Kat. Somebody wanted me some Kit Kat. Now I know that, baby. So next time I see you, kick. There you go, baby. And if you don't tell me thank you and hug me, when we get Kit Kat. Are you by laugh? When I bring your Kit Kat. Yeah. Okay, alright. I know part of your love language now. Alright. So go ahead, Miss O.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, but I totally agree.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not Nathan. I'm single. You're sick. Oh, you're single. I'm single. I'm celibate at the moment. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

How long? Do you have like a time frame? You know, some some not just women, but people. They'll do like uh, you know, they're gonna remain celebrated.

SPEAKER_03

I got out of a relationship with a jackass a few months ago, and it just turned me off because it's like it wasn't even my kind of person. Like, and I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm trying wrong.

SPEAKER_04

Jackass.

SPEAKER_03

Let me say, let me just try this. And it was just so such a waste of my energy. Well, somebody from Atlanta, was it somebody from Milan? No, I would I don't well, I wouldn't say I would have date because Erasmus from Atlanta. Um, but no.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. I didn't even think he was dating no one, no one at all. I don't think you have time.

SPEAKER_03

I don't. That's why I might have wasted the what the time I had.

SPEAKER_00

That's why you're yo. Because listen.

SPEAKER_03

But at the rate my thing is going right now, might as well I get back to my ex. Get back to your ex? Yeah, because I have an ex that I really go crazy for. Is it the one that we only I'm not gonna tell you who it is.

SPEAKER_01

It's not the one that we say, can you at least okay? You don't have to say names, but can you at least say yes my name? I'm out of business. Because we know, we know one. We know that we know at least.

SPEAKER_02

That's it. You only know one. So let's keep it that way. I'm not the type of many men. My body count is very low. So, ex, you have a chance. Who never cares that we know one, we know one? At least one.

SPEAKER_00

So maybe number three, you have a chance.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, I think only one man really can blow my mind.

SPEAKER_00

So, like an ex from like 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago?

SPEAKER_03

Um, how many years ago?

SPEAKER_00

From Jamaica.

SPEAKER_03

That one ex I think Imno.

SPEAKER_00

He lives in Jamaica sometime.

SPEAKER_01

I wanna see, I'm waiting to see you like the big wedding. I think we're all besties. You don't want to see the big wedding, she don't need no big wedding.

SPEAKER_00

She don't need no big wedding.

SPEAKER_01

Really? I need a private wedding.

SPEAKER_00

I'm married and nobody don't know. And a few people pull up. That's it. She's married at nobody know.

SPEAKER_01

Why? No, sir. You don't need to be. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00

What do you need a big wedding for? No, you don't need a big wedding. Why not? Why not?

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna go somewhere and I'm gonna be, you know, just wearing my black hair. Nobody knows who I am, knows that I'm artist. I'm gonna meet my partner, and he's not gonna know that I'm spice, and then he's gonna sweep me off my feet, and then we're gonna just run away somewhere to just live this beautiful life in a fantasy bubble, like, you know. And one of my fans is gonna spot me out, and I'm gonna be like, and you know, I'm just there with him, just living by herself somewhere on an island.

SPEAKER_00

I really sat here and listened to her say this. I'm just I really were just looking at her like, who is she talking to, bro?

SPEAKER_03

I was so well. That's what I tell God though. I want to meet a man that don't know that I'm an artist. I don't know where in the world I'm gonna go. I need to start traveling to some places, but yeah, them mania clout chaser. If I did maybe no send them come for some clout.

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean? They can't, you can't always not an ugly woman. You have a great shade. Oh, of course.

SPEAKER_03

Come on, but people, these men, trust me, them mania. I know them. Men are jealous over their woman more than a woman is jealous over you. What? What are you saying? You heard I've never been jealous over a woman yet. What kind of man jealous over them woman?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, bro. I'd rather you say a man jealousy. The only thing that pissed me off was you, if it was you, the clothes you wear when you're half naked. I'll be like, come on, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01

But if you're with you, though, okay? If she's with you, she's out. Yeah. So it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03

No, let your woman be a woman. If your woman likes What that means if your woman wants to dress sexy, that has don't feed your ego onto her. Like, let your woman live and enjoy herself, especially and celebrate her moments. Like you want to tell her how to dress and what, Nori? Are you that type?

SPEAKER_00

The problem with all of us is we have a different definition of sexy.

SPEAKER_03

I don't say girls have to be naked to be sexy, but that's what I'm saying. And I'm just wearing whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Sexy is we have different things.

SPEAKER_03

So you would never take your woman to the beach, I'm guessing, because you're them selecting a kind of man. She's in a spad suit. Come on, let's go.

SPEAKER_00

But you see the difference that shoes, but she's a big thing. Everybody has their naked in our heart after we initiate.

SPEAKER_03

I'm catch a writing at the biggest, a so no man's here. We are carrying a beach, go out naked. Everybody I look padar. So what's the difference?

SPEAKER_00

But she has a little thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no little not dead in the cat naked, and every man I look panar.

SPEAKER_00

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm telling you, they rap so we don't like earrings, we're not selective with no problem.

SPEAKER_00

We're not selective.

SPEAKER_03

They're not selective because you're just saying, she's wearing her little thing. Would you take her to the beach? You said yes.

SPEAKER_00

But what I'm not gonna take her. No, no, no. But she'll wear jeans. So why am I sit down and not? Jacket so I could take her to the beach. If she wants to go to the beach, I'm gonna go with her. Why not?

SPEAKER_03

Nori.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Yeah, I just did that to it. You gotta make her happy. You guys, she wanna go here, you go, you wanna do it. There we go. Right? No.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not with you.

SPEAKER_00

So I got to her. No, she wants to go to the beach, say no? Oh, you can't go to the beach?

SPEAKER_03

No, you just say she can't dress naked.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, why she gotta dress naked?

SPEAKER_03

Beach? It's the same.

SPEAKER_00

But she could wear the little rap thing. You know what I'm talking about? What's the name of it? What's the name of the little rapping thing they be having on? That's still, you know, a little we call it a rap.

SPEAKER_03

It's a rap, right? We wear a jacket over the bathsuits.

SPEAKER_00

But she could wear it. She could wear a nice, a nice, a nice one that's like this. Right? 2026.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, them at yeah. The more the outside. Yeah. Outside, what's the temperature? Hey, volcano.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Yeah. So what wait, hold on. So volcanoes number one on the charts right now, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, was. Um, yeah. First date drop. You know, the best is always gonna support. So because my bestie is always buying, always streaming. The video is sick. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

The video is sick. Thank you. Yes, next level.

SPEAKER_00

Take your man to the strip club?

SPEAKER_01

How we reached the case.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. Thank you, buddy. I didn't feel like you were co-siding her.

SPEAKER_00

You was co-siding her the whole time. No, you switched the subject real fast for me. You think you were slick.

SPEAKER_01

You think you were slick. I'm confused. Do you take your man to the strip club? Yes or no? Wait, what is the question?

SPEAKER_00

Do you take your man to the strip club?

SPEAKER_01

To which strip club club? A strip club do you want to? You go with your man to the strip club.

SPEAKER_00

Do you take your man to the strip club?

SPEAKER_01

Women dancing or men dancing?

SPEAKER_00

I forgot you live in Atlanta. You're right. My bad.

SPEAKER_01

You live in Atlanta? Back and forth. Back and forth.

SPEAKER_03

But what's wrong with going to the strip club? You wouldn't take your man to the strip club.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, I'm still waiting for Nori. You're going to answer my question. Are you talking about men dancing?

SPEAKER_00

Yes or no? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Are you talking about a strip club? Are we talking about women dancing or men dancing? I'm sorry, that's a question, right? They have male strip clubs. Yeah, you know strip clubs where men men dance, right?

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So you, if your man asks you to go to a male strip club, you're gonna go with him? Why would your manner? What the hell is wrong with you, bro?

SPEAKER_03

Why would your man ask you to go to a male strip club?

SPEAKER_01

I just asked Share the one that's said it. Your question was, would I take it?

SPEAKER_00

Will you take your man to the strip club?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna spice you're gonna assume he's talking about. What you mean assume? Because I'm asking you, are we talking about a men dancing or women dance? No, hold on. He's being sarcastic. When he's saying it can't be men, because why would you take your man to a male club? Would I take, would I get up and say, let's go to the strip club.

SPEAKER_00

If your man wants to go to the strip club, if he says to me, take me to the club.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, I want to go to the strip club, do you want to come with me? I'd go with him.

SPEAKER_00

I actually would you take your man to the strip club? That's what I asked.

SPEAKER_01

What's the nuance? That's all I asked the question. Yes or no? That's what you gotta say. No, I probably I personally probably wouldn't. If my man came to me and said, hey, you answered.

SPEAKER_00

No, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

If my man came to me and said, hey, I want to go to the strip club. I was like, okay, I'll come with you.

SPEAKER_00

Miss Bestie?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

You take your man to the strip club?

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I'd have the girls them dance on him too. Of course. Why not?

SPEAKER_00

Was that hard?

SPEAKER_01

There are two different things. I would not get up and invite my man, like, yo, let's go to the strip club. Why not? That's cute. I don't know, because I don't even go to the strip club like that.

SPEAKER_03

That's two different things, Nori. What is it? What's the difference about here? That is two different things. Why the whole time women bring titties?

SPEAKER_00

I'm sitting here looking at women, shake their ass, shake their titties in front of me, right? I'm not touching, I'm looking. What's the difference? You took me, right?

SPEAKER_01

It's context.

SPEAKER_00

It's setting. I'm just curious. Huh? August.

SPEAKER_03

Can I August?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like August. I'm born in August.

SPEAKER_02

No, you're not.

SPEAKER_00

Why not?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Why can't we born in August?

SPEAKER_01

No, you're not born in August. Why?

SPEAKER_00

Let me know why I can't be born in August.

SPEAKER_01

What is that? What sign is that?

SPEAKER_00

Why can't we be born in August?

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm I was I'm August.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. I was born August 9th.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna believe it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm September. I'm a Libra.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What's wrong with being a Libra?

SPEAKER_03

If a woman ever cheated on you?

SPEAKER_00

Probably.

SPEAKER_03

You know if it's if a woman ever cheated on you.

SPEAKER_00

I never, I never witnessed it or been across, but I'm sure they have. Because you can never, a woman, you can't really.

SPEAKER_03

Have you ever cheated on a man before in Efertari? Never? Never. That's very good. You're a nice girl.

SPEAKER_00

Spice, you ever cheated on a man before?

SPEAKER_03

Right through like this.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh. Right through the floor.

SPEAKER_00

What do you throw at you? Why are you like this?

SPEAKER_03

My kid's father used to sneak out at the old song, go, I don't fuck. I'm gonna just start fucking.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. I know he I know he was devastating. Did he find out?

SPEAKER_03

I don't leave the house. I normally always at home. So let me start leave the old so I see it. Obviously, he was a fine out. And then he asked me. I guess we'll tell him.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Yo, this woman will give somebody a heart attack.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not hiding.

SPEAKER_00

The places got hot.

SPEAKER_02

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

So we're talking about volcano.

SPEAKER_03

Volcano. Let's get back to volcano. It's out now. It's my summer song. Nefitera was saying she loved the video. I was talking to him earlier, and he was telling me he loved the video, and he can see that I spent a lot of money on the volcano video. So thank you. I mean, I put a lot into my craft. So, you know, I'm gonna have to spend back by myself. I'm independent as well. I'm not signed to a record label. I do have a management team. Like, you know, we do everything out of pocket by myself. So I'm very meticulous with um my my craft and my music and my brand. So I do spend a lot.

SPEAKER_00

To do all this by yourself and this in this game right now is rough, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sheesh. What does your team look like for like the people who are whether it's up and coming artists or even artists? No, but what is it? Spice facts.

SPEAKER_03

Who should be? Um, I don't have a large team, so I don't think I should be the person to tell uh artists like this is my team, because then because they see me doing so good and I'm so successful, they will think in our in their self that, oh, she unclass two people. We can't do that when it's wrong. You're not supposed to have two people, but SPICE is 20 people, and not every person can act a 20-person role. But I actually really do, you know. So I don't think I should be the person to tell another artist what their team, what my team is, because it's not a lot of people on my team, it's a handful, but by right, you know, in order to be a successful artist, you need a team of people. Like I feel like I would have even been, you know, more bigger if I was signed to a record label, if I had a management team, if I had like a big company behind me. I choose not to because I rather my peace over fame, I rather my peace and my sanity over being used and stolen from and lied to and manipulated and be told what to do, what to sing, how to sing it, when to sing it, when to release it, or like let me just know why I'm be a music puppet, you know? So I just I'm comfortable where I'm at without no aging behind me. I'm I don't want to be a music dolly like no, that's fair.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's that's a lot. Because it's is you for you to be able to label and be independent in a in certain ways, it it won't work. Yeah. So I see um I think love and hip hop is about to be over soon or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's over. We stopped filming. Um How you feel about that? Um more time for spice, the artist. More time for spice, the artist. Love and hip hop consumed consumed a lot of my time because a lot of people don't know we filmed for like almost an entire year. Because we filmed for up to 10 months, and then the next two months you're still at a green screen, so it's like you're filming for an entire year. So, on top of filming love and hip hop for almost 10 months, I still have to focus on spice the brand, still be a mother, still manage myself, still take care of myself. Like so much that I have to fit into the spaces of getting a schedule from um, you know, love and hip hop, which is normally crazy if they film every week.

SPEAKER_00

How long was the show? Like how long were they aired for?

SPEAKER_03

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00

How many years?

SPEAKER_03

Um was it 50? I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

I I didn't go on it when it started. But I know that it's like I'm talking about your time, your time on it.

SPEAKER_00

Your time on it.

SPEAKER_03

My time on it, maybe five, six. Five years ago?

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Time fly, bro. I mean when you first got on it. That's what I watched for a little bit, and that's how no, I'm I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

If you could do it over, would you do it again? The show.

SPEAKER_03

Love and hip hop. If I could do it over, I probably would have done it differently. Um that's because you have to fake it on TV. You can't be real because a lot of people read real in different ways. So for me, I used to be there filming, knowing that people in the room probably don't like each other, or they're my beef with each other, or you hear out them talk about each other off camera, and then the cameras come on and they're like, Hi, hi.

SPEAKER_00

The rough feel. We know that rough.

SPEAKER_03

And then Missy knows they're like I couldn't imagine. And then people think say I'm me, I the problem. I'm always the problem because then I bring my real. That's me. I'm not gonna feel me. But they did it so well, effortlessly. But I think and I think I learned they researched was a skit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They researched you good though, because they they realized they needed you to make that, to bring that like that real, like, what? What is that? Like, they'd be like, oh like we should get to meet. Are you me about the wizard? Like, they didn't really, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. They didn't say that.

SPEAKER_03

Before it ended, one of the scenes, um, girl was beefing over me, say, suck your mother or whatever. And she was like, What that mean? And then one of my other friends, Sierra, was there like, no, you know, spice from Jamaica, so that's how she talks. I don't think it means like you must, you know, do that to your mother. And I don't think, and I was over there like, adapting mean, so it means you're trying to pick up something like, you know, spice is not really um whatever. What do you mean? And I'm like, what adopted mean?

SPEAKER_02

And to me, I I watched that scene and I laughed till I cried. You gotta see it. Tears, yes. I gotta go see it.

SPEAKER_03

Because I was just calmly there, because beat me calmly. That's what it means. That's it, mean.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this one is this. I love this. I love this, I love it. She be like, yeah, sir.

SPEAKER_01

Where is it?

SPEAKER_00

And she don't miss nothing here. No pass her ears, you know. She don't miss nothing, bro. From I knows my new kiss. What she said? Say it again.

SPEAKER_03

I like Miss Kiss. Right? She don't miss it.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, but you know, I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00

So, um, volcano, that's what we're doing. Videos out right now. All the besties, make sure. Go up to Barbados, too. Barbados weekend, yeah. Best of weekend, Barbados.

SPEAKER_03

Pull up to Barbados. We're doing three days. Spend the entire weekend with me in Barbados for three days. Arrive on August 1st, and we're there until August 4th. It's all about crap overseas. So you get your carnival costume where we call cardument day. It's gonna be fun. Barbados, best of weekend. You gotta be there. And come spend the weekend with me.

SPEAKER_00

Staying there for your birthday?

SPEAKER_03

No. Well, I don't even know where I'm gonna be, depending on, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, my birthday is the 6th, but the week the best of weekend is from the 1st to the 4th. So go to spiceofficial.com if you want a book and come spend the weekend with me.

SPEAKER_00

I may go to Monday. So right now, it's called the Best Friend Monday.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so I'm gonna pull up on the Monday. I'm I'm uh I kind of made my my vision of it. I'm gonna, I don't know what you're doing, Neff. No, that's you could probably go on Friday. But Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Spice is a real carnival junkie. So I think I want to be there with them jumping up like a bad one. Yes, we're gonna talk about Carnival Community is gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Real fun.

SPEAKER_00

So Volcano is on all platforms right now. Can they go on your website and in and hear the song?

SPEAKER_03

On all platforms, all streaming platforms, all the DSPs, Spotify, Pandora, like you name it, Pandora, iTunes, whatever you prefer, Apple Music, whatever you prefer to listen to your music on, it's there. It's type Spice Volcano. And pick up to Alex Anteos as well, um, who's also on the track, producing the track with me. I'm excited for this song. It's the song for the summer. I'm outside. I'm a hot like hot. Yeah, so many people have been, you know, using up the sound. So yeah, volcano summer.

SPEAKER_00

That's what it is, volcano.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_00

So everybody make sure stream it. Spice, let them know everywhere they can find you on social media.

SPEAKER_03

Everywhere. Spice official is the name. And if you can't find me upon social media at Spice Official, Google me.

SPEAKER_00

That's right.

SPEAKER_03

Never come up.

SPEAKER_00

We appreciate you, Spice, for passing through. We love you. Always love you. Besty. I'm your best friend.

SPEAKER_02

Best friend.

SPEAKER_00

No bestie, nothing here. We're out of here. International talk. Appreciate you guys. Bless.