International Talk Ep. 5 AFRO B !

Norie and Nefatari sits down with UK Ivorian Afrobeats artist/DJ Afro B to talk about the UK music scene, spinning Afrobeats and Ampiano for big crowds, recording and hanging out in Jamaica, and more.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

International talk, you're a show the DJ number in Nevatari and the one the only Afro B International talk international talk one familiar. Yeah, you know, we're gonna dial a little bit, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 0:19

Um you've been having uh the UK master through here, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Yeah, we've been doing our thing with movies and Netflix, yeah. You guys are rating us now, man. We mean now. I feel we always have we always get you. Before it was T and Crets and them kind of jokes. Now, you know, we got the films, we got the movies, the music. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yeah, it definitely was T, you're right. I'm gonna lie to you. But we we well, you know how it is, man. It's just a certain you gotta. If you understand certain cultures, you know that a lot of it is in the UK, yeah. UK is a very diverse place.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

It is a lot of Jamaicans, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

A lot of people feel like the US is diverse, but I think the UK has more cultures, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Fairly, it's close, yeah. It's close. We don't really have um the Latin side of and Haitians, yeah. So when I came in 2018, I was like, oh, this is a discovery. This yeah, uh new yeah, new people. I was like, oh wow, yeah, because we don't we don't have that in the UK, so yeah, I'll say that's the main difference. Not not really. There's like one road where they all go, uh Elephant and Castle, uh or old Kent Roads, but yeah, it's not dominant like it is here.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Yeah, why are you learning every day? Yeah, you have a huge African community there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Huge African, huge uh Caribbean, um Eastern European, the Turkish people, Greek, everybody's there.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

Oh wow, yeah, so I think that's that I guess that's what kind of like influenced a lot of the culture up there. Yeah, like I think that the Afro Reed kind of was heavier in the UK before it came back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

A lot heavier because Nigerians that there's like areas that's filled with Nigerians that's promoting this stuff. So it was just instilled from a young age. When I was 16, I was hearing Nigerian music, yeah. And friends will be showing you the music and everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

So what about the like what about like uh um what was what's the hip hop call again?

SPEAKER_03 2:20

The what?

SPEAKER_02 2:21

What the hip hop? What is it called again?

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Oh, I know drill, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

Drill Drill, oh drill, that came the off the back of Chief Keefe. So when Chief Keefe was hot came to the UK and then they did their own type of version. That um what's his name? Pop smoke, and that would do uh rest in peace. So yeah, that's what yeah, it kind of changed in that direction.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

I think I think a lot of people never gave Chief Keefe credit for you of changing the whole dialect of music. Like he changed a lot. Yeah, he did, man. Like a whole culture, like just hip-hop changed. Yeah. One year, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You didn't notice that? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 3:05

I agree. No, I listen to everything, I listen to almost everything. Yeah, hip-hop, the drill, I'm a piano. Is Ama Piano big in the UK?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Yeah, it's massive, man. Yeah, massive. And Nigerians have kind of taken it and made it their own kind of way, but it's the tempo. It's not even Nigerian. No, I know originated though, obviously, South Africa. The Nigerians, if you hear Ashake's music, Ashake's music every day. One thing about Nigerian though, when they take it, they take it, you know. They do, they do, yeah. They they do it their own way.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Yo, listen, I've noticed that because like if when Nigerians take your music, it's gone, you know. It now belongs to Nigerians, you know. I don't want to say that. I don't think they understand what I'm saying. So so listen, so what's been going on where for me, man? Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

I've just been building. Well, I've been cooking music since 2020. When COVID came, I just locked in and recorded, so I'm sitting on like I don't know how many records. So it's like from from next week, it'll be the first single, and then just back to back. Because with the attention span now, you just need to keep releasing, man. Yeah, you can't have a big gap unless it's like a big classic banger like Joanna. Yeah, you still you always need to keep releasing, especially with TikTok. You're only hearing like 15 to 30 seconds, and then some people won't even know the rest of the song. Don't know the song. The DJ is already mixing it in. I was like, oh, but you're a DJ, yeah, yeah, yeah. Blame yourself too. Yeah, no, but that TikTok though, right? But it's crazy. 2019 when Joanna was around, TikTok wasn't around. No, it was musical. Yeah, it came after, yeah. So I just had to adjust, and I made I made friends with Molly, um, shake it to the max. Yeah, yeah. So she was just telling me how the new way of um to promote music was literally post everyday content and dance every minute like her.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Yeah, be dancing like her not exactly like her.

SPEAKER_03 5:11

Yeah, but other girls dancing like that. Yeah, I'll be dancing like so you say you're you've been I know you you've been writing music since 2020. Yeah, recording that's six years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Six years worth of music.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Why sit on it for so long?

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Like we're just going for it, the world was changing. Uh huh. So I was just analyzing, and yeah, it was just it got very weird. And obviously, I went from traveling the world to be told oh you can't go nowhere anymore. So I had a heap of stuff planned. It's all in Asia, so Middle East. I was gonna do a lot in the uh USA, and then boom. Wow in in March. And I was dropping records during COVID as well. Yeah, that should have done more. Um, the record with um T-Paying, Condo, and Fan Wine Legacy, but all of that were COVID songs, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Yeah, so did it sing a lot of songs stayed in COVID.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Yeah, shape nice Vas Cartel, COVID again, COVID, man.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

I feel like you were like one of the first uh Afro Beat artists to really, you know what I'm saying, have your song go commercial here in the US, like even before Burnaboy, I feel like years before Burnaboy.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Um, that's what he was saying. But yeah, I'm not Nigerian though, so I'm not as loud. We've saying you're talking loud today, though. Huh?

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Where are you from?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

From Ivory Coast, Côte d'Ivoire.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

Ivory Coast, I remember that. But you live, but you live in the UK though. Born and raised in the UK. Born and raised in the UK, but parents are from Ivory Coast. Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Yeah, yeah, but his song was it was like a uh a breakthrough of maybe like three to four songs that actually made the whole Afrobeat movement. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, it was his, it was Ioj.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

Yes, IOJ, yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

And after that, the DeVito. No, I'm I'm trying to like give you the how it kind of played, you know what I'm saying? DeVito, you know, locked it in heavy after that too, because he had two hits back to back. Yeah, and then the whiz kid. This was like a a formula of how all of them kind of just you know, but yeah, his record definitely was a crazy impact. Yeah, yeah, crazy, crazy impact.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

I feel like it made a lot of people pay attention finally. Yeah, like it made people take it more serious because I remember they didn't actually know what the genre was. When I was meeting a lot of DJs around um the state, they were like, they were calling it is it reggaeton, is it dance or yeah, I swear. Then I had to do like an educational tour that's telling them, yo, this is where it is. Here's like a heap of songs that you should be spinning.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Yeah, black Spanish? It said so good. Dominican. Maybe you can fall Dominican.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Me, I don't look Dominican. I've been told I look Haitian.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Okay. I've been told that little crazy. You know what it is. I'm Haitians be having them big beards. That's what it is. That's what it's the beard. You cut the beard, you're not the Dominican.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

I have to keep that.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

So so what do you think made that song pop? Because like Nori was saying, that song was, I mean, it was huge. Like I feel like when it popped, like every generation knew that song. Like I knew it, my mom knew it, you know, kids knew it.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Like, so I think it's just a vibe, man. I think more people these days they listen to melody, melody and the beat before the lyrics. The lyrics might come up. Well, you're more focusing on the lyrics when it comes to rapping. But when it comes to dance all dance all, so car Afrobeats, they're listening more to the vibe, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

I think I think because it the the beat was catchy and you had good, like the lyrics were friendly.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah, friendly too.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

I think that's what it is. Friendly, friendly goes a long way for the different generations of people to listen to it. Yeah like you said, your mom. Yeah, like if he was talking about Joanna, stick it in your Joanna, being a Joanna, stick it in the stick it in there, then your mom might have been like, Woohoo! Nephe, we had no.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

She also can't sing along to that. You know what I'm saying? Yours is just like Joe, Joe, Joe, you know, so yeah, it's catchy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

So I you went, so you definitely did a record with um, I bet you your mother wouldn't play the record with him and Sukiani.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

No, that was that was PG. That's that was a PG. So they never son me. She ain't played that one.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

The video, you guys had done a video too.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Yeah, we shot that in Miami.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Okay, that wasn't PG. The video wasn't PG.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

The Linux was not PG, boy. Yeah, it wasn't that bad. Um, I've seen once. I've seen once. It's bad, like it wasn't horrible. Like it did, it was a little from spicy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

It mouths fast, Tabasco. It wasn't Scotch Bunny.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

It was Catabody, it wasn't Catabody, yeah. But I'm just I'm just using that one as an example. Like, your mother wouldn't have watched that video.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

No, no, no, no, no. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

But it's cool, you know what I'm saying? It's part of it, spotter, you know. Yeah, everything can't be PG, bro. No, no, yeah, you're gonna mix it up. Sometimes Batman song I've become all you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

I can't be Justin Bieber forever, man. He has to grow up. Why don't you give me a Batman song? You should do a Batman song. Batman gangster song, maybe on a chorus, like on the Akon vibe. So it doesn't be like that, yeah. And then they do the yeah, that's actually what I've been cooking too. So I've been um sending it to different artists, but that's what I did before Joanna in the UK. I was doing hooks for like UK rappers. Oh and yeah, I was doing this thing too.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

But wait, so you actually started as a DJ though, right? Like a radio host.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

I started as a DJ, then radio came after, and then the music came during my first radio show. So I was just playing my own music, throwing my own parties, forcing the music down people's mix, and then the event is like, oh, you're gonna like this. But the transition was crazy because it's like I'm already used to you playing and doing your thing playing, right? So, and I never spoke on the mic, so it's just like ah, I still need to get my head around it.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

So then, how would you would you say like yo, this is me, or would you just let it rock and watch the reaction without people knowing a bit of both, okay?

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Yeah, because I would test music and play and see how are people reacting, yeah, and then I'll let them know after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

That's a small one. What do you see like what the clubs did you play at was like dancer or just like like clubs?

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Oh, I started in dance also, so you know it's a tough crowd, boy. Yeah, so um I had sets where I didn't even get three songs into it and then telling me to come off. No way, it wasn't because we didn't have any crossover songs, so I was playing like real village Afrobeats. Did you get it? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

It was a bit too well in the hardcore. Yeah, hardcore. So, like what okay, so what would you consider hardcore? Like what songs?

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Uh I don't even think you know them, man. This is before Oh, this is UK or yeah, no, Afrobeats were before Whisky's time. So the Banch before The Banch, have you heard the The Banch? Oliver Twist he didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the songs he did before that.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Yeah, I wouldn't know that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're taking it. But I know that song you just said.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Yeah, yeah, we're taking it back before then.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

But I said you had you like 2B and M. Tube had had great songs.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he had African Queen. Yeah, but that was more reggae sounding when you think about it. It definitely gave you Yeah, but it did, it was a good song. But then after that, oh shit, why am I playing?

SPEAKER_02 13:02

Yeah, I think all I think the Jamaican, all the Caribbean people took that one. They took that record, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

And it took uh flavor, flavor, sour, sour, sour.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

But you know, it was crazy, right? Flavor was kind of part of the breakthrough song for Afro BT. Absolutely, that warmed everybody up for a long time, and nobody knew what it was because Spanish people was playing it, yeah, Caribbean people was playing it, everybody was playing it. It was just floating around with no identity, no identity, nobody knew where it came from.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Yeah, because we this there's some songs we do and they crossovers, crossovers to um the dancer world. So if you listen to that flavor song, you can probably mix that in with murder she wrote.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's the same. But like they're like two different versions of the song, though.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

The one that we all played, that's not the original, it was another one. There was another one. Someone kind of like remixed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Yo, you're right, because on the my DJ crate it says remix, but yeah, I don't know what the original is.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

Yeah, so the remix kind of like went through the roof. Yeah, yeah. Flavor, we good still, you know. That's my bro.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

Would you say that that Afrobeat has taken part of dancer?

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Like, we we I wouldn't say taken, we're influenced a lot because we grew up on like the Bob Marley's or or Abuja Bansum, whatever it is, but it's not every artist that has that Afro dancer sound. Or they might do it here and there and then go back to the traditional sound like Ghana, but you might bounce from both, or you might get someone that there's a lot of artists from Ghana just doing paths on their songs. And the beat is Afro. Yeah, so it's just like a merge of different things.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Yeah, because sometimes I wonder like even if they're not trying to deliberately do an Afro-B dancehall like mix, is dancehall still just um naturally embedded in what we call Afro-B, or is it that dance hall ha takes African drums and has African drums in it? That's a good question. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a mix, it's a mixture.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah, well, the drums came first, isn't it? The drums came first from Africa, and then everyone does did their own groove from where wherever territory you went to. So the South America, you're gonna get look at that.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

The problem is that's a very I don't think anyone could ever give you a correct answer for that. Like we all can give you what we think, right? But like if you really think about it, like Jamaicans are Nigerian, yeah, or Ghanaian African or Ghanaian, they're like both, yeah, like Jamaicans are from so it's like where you really came from then. Yeah, you answer your own question, yeah. Like you know what I'm saying? Like, but you gotta know history. Some people just don't really know history, so they're gonna be like, oh no, man, the drums come from you know me, I said Kingston under do you, bro?

SPEAKER_01 16:01

Whatever makes you happy, but it's real, like it's it's yeah, that's really the drums come from there, and everyone did their own groove. And obviously, uh Jamaican, the Jamaican groove is probably the most international, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Like Jamaicans, Jamaicans gave it the groove and the the different temples, and you know, the breakdown of the beat, like Jamaicans did that. They made it into something different, not just they made it, like you know what I'm saying? Like, right, come here, let me fat up this, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Like I don't do this, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

And so my salico spice, I'd never think that's it.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

Well, you're in Jamaica a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

That's that's at one time he was living in Jamaica.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Were you?

SPEAKER_01 16:44

No, I wasn't bro, you was there like I was that's why I had to get to pull it down a bit because I don't be going to the touristy spots, I'll be like immigration was like, yo, yeah, yeah. I'll be in the street parties up to Monday, Weddy Wednesdays, boom Sundays, yeah, whatever bouncy kills. I mean, yeah, I'm like, what you doing there, bro? Having a good time there, man.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

No, I love Jamaica. That's the place.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

But that that that's that's that's when listen, that's just you just gotta move, bro. When you out here, you gotta jump on a plane and do what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Oh, yeah, because it's it's much closer, like when you're here than going. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Miami's just boom, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Yeah, so what are you doing when you're there?

SPEAKER_03 17:27

You're recording, or you're just chilling.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

I'm recording. I'm to be honest with you, I'm smoking weed, man. I don't smoke weed. I'll just be having a good time, eating good food, mixing, mixing with the people. I'll be recording for no reason sometimes, just to be there. Yeah, yeah. You just get inspiration, that's he's a little you know, taking it, listening to the music, going to different events. No, no, I haven't. I haven't. I've never smoked weed before. You never smoke weed before. Never, yo everybody smoked weed one time in their life, bro. I swear down, I haven't. I had that edible once. That was my introduction, and then that was the last time. You had once, yes. No, but I didn't smoke it. We did, it was in a muffin and a brownie. Um I didn't know that if you consume too much, you it's even worse. Yeah, but I had three. I had three. I was like, oh, this ain't even doing nothing. Then my boy saw me. I was like, Oh, you're gonna be Were you by yourself or with French? I was with a group of people. A group of people before you were done. Man, I just it was a scary time, man.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

And you don't even realize, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:40

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Yo, it's hit me. That happened to me too on Jamar Cruise. I had a cookie. Oh my god, bro. I slept for almost two days. I missed the whole cruise.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

And you're on the water. That was the like you must have been.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

You had three muffins, man. I was even died sweating so much, and I had a DJ set as well. I was left. The whole song would play. It's like a Spotify play, uh, Apple Music playlist, and I'll press the next one. But everyone's high in the club anyway, so I didn't know I was playing trash. But nah, man, never again. Yo, never. You're lucky you made that alive, bro. I know. I was sweating, man.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

So so right now you got like the best of both worlds, though, because you're a DJ and you're an artist. Yeah, so you still play in the clubs.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

I still play, well, here and there. I'm I'm selective more. Okay, I'm selected more. There's a radio show, too. But you you know, once you love DJing, you you always want to always you're old. Sometimes you're like you're not booked, but you're like, oh, I want to do this mix, so yeah, let me do play two couple songs, so that'll never leave you.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

Yeah, but what do you prefer if you had to pick one artist or DJ?

SPEAKER_02 19:50

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

You have to pick one.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

They like the both the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

They are, but because you're still like expressing yourself, you're still as a DJ, you're still performing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

But if you had to pick one, you know what? If it's a tough crowd, it's easier to DJ than to perform. 100% if they if they kind of know your music. But if they don't know your music, it's a hard one if it doesn't perform in and then staring at you like this. But with a DJ set, you can literally choose any song to kind of work them. Yeah, so basically you're saying DJ. Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

So that's that's all fam. That's saying DJ fam. Is that your first love?

SPEAKER_02 20:35

Yeah, the first love, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

Oh, okay. Your first love is DJ. My first love was DJ for him.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Okay, you see in the pandemic, the man was DJ, all of us is battling on Instagram every day. We was on.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

But what's crazy? DJs are artists now.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Yeah, yeah, DJs are artists now.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Yeah, like that. You can see, especially in uh I'm a piano world, it will be them headlining, and then you know, they got people dancing around them as a whole show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like that's the DJ and the turntable. Um I kind of prefer those. I'm old school, so I prefer that. That's the DJ and the other.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

You know, it's like that the female DJs, the um Uncle Waffles. Uncle Waffles, I love her. Yeah, she's like that. She's like a DJ, but she's performing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah, yeah. But a lot of new DJs, they're playing pre-mixes. But that's a convo for another day. Yeah, yeah. I kinda know I know this.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Like who? Like, what are you who are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 21:34

No, no, I'm not talking about anyone specifically. Oh, okay. With with when uh when it's like a set like that, this like the playlist is already done.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

But like the veteran DJs, they're they're reading the crowd and be like, okay, I need to play this now, I need to play that now.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

How do you guys feel about that? Is that a bad thing?

SPEAKER_01 21:53

It's not whatever works, works.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Okay. Yeah, but it's not a bad thing. It's like you know how it's a it's a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

It won't work for me. Yeah, it's a bad thing. It's a bad thing depending on the type of event.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Because um, but I think those kind of genres are like that though. Like I've I've noticed, like I've been going, I go to Amprion just to chill out and look. And it's kind of one way.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

You see, like we we look. Oh, we changing that. We're changing songs. Yeah, in a set. They're juggling. Maybe an hour. I'm playing maybe two, three hundred songs sometimes. An hour. Because we shop it, we shopping, shop it. And them is like sometimes one song is like 15 to 20 minutes, bro.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Wow. That is.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

So what do you really and and I yo, if I had it that easy, I would appreciate it too. Hands down. But I'm just saying, like, it's it's to me, it's it's once you have all your production together properly and it sounds good, that they rock out for they. That's why they can rock out for hours.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Yeah, and it's all the same tempo as well.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Literally just press and play and then 112 bpm. Yeah, 112, 113.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yo, I got an ampiano crate. Yeah, bro. You're literally just playing it. It's all 112, bro. 112, 113. The Nigerians speed it up though. Yeah. They bring it to like 125, 130. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Yeah, but it's it's it's a it's a to me, it's a uh uh a music that if you only could like it and love it if you appreciate sound, like you gotta appreciate the sound of music. You dig what I'm saying? It's not like how we hear the words, oh the mansel, God, god, the monset, you're saying no, no, no, no. This is you gotta understand the breakdown, yeah. Of like how y'all was talking about the drums, the bass, the this, that, that. That's to me, that's how I got to understand the beginning. I was like, what the hell is this?

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a growing thing.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Something about this man. Oh, it's layers, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

It's layers in certain frequencies, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

It's a frequency, it is a vibration, yeah. Some drug music, though.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

But Jamaican Jamaican leaders for me.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

Some what?

SPEAKER_02 24:03

It's drug music.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Drug music.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Yeah, that kind of tempo is drug music, bro. Like you have to smoke weed or something. It's like back in the days, yeah. It's like them old school rave bars, like the ones that the the what was it, disco back in the days? Like disco, that was all drugs.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Yeah, it makes me feel like I want to be in the beach, yeah. It's all drugs, it's beach music. Like, I'm a peanut.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Yo, bro. Everybody now pey on there, they gotta be smoking weed, bro.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

No, you do them parties, they don't mean they're smoking weed. All drinking, it's either doing all that stuff, but they be vibing though.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

They be vibing. It's the vibe, them parties don't make no.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

But Jamaican DJs for me, I think they're the best. I think they're the most diverse. Yeah, yeah. Boom, just hit you with it. They might just start with some RB, some sing alongs, and then boom. Yep. And then bring you back down, bring you back down again. Then the next DJ comes, resets the whole thing, yeah, builds it up.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's it's it's an art. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's an art. So, as in you now, I know you have some projects going on right now. Yeah, I see you have some uh stuff on Instagram with women with big booties. That there you go. Tell your mom, though. It's not for her, never tell her, it's for her.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

I'm gonna explain why.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

I was about to say, I'm gonna I'm gonna explain why.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

So for her or her mom, just for everyone, yeah. Oh, okay. My country originated my my country originated twerking. Okay, go ahead. Go for it, go for it. My country originated twerking called Mapuka. You can look it up if you want. Oh, I'm on your Instagram page. That's what I'm gonna do. Yes, it means twerking.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Mapuka is twerking, yes, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

So back back in a village in Ivory Coast, the women used to do it to celebrate pregnancy, fertility, uh, this womanhood, stuff like that, but they'll be clothed and it will be a celebration. It's not until we got televised where it got sexualized, right? And then it started, you know, to spread.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

I was I was gonna say that.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Yeah, it started to go to different parts of the world, and then yeah, it became twerking and it went down that lane.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Oh, okay. Look, she's clothed.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Okay, she's clothed. But no, you have a good point. How it's interesting how one thing can be taken and made, you know, have different symbols.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

So you mean to tell me? Yeah, yeah. I'm sitting down with my mom's and we're chilling, and I'm like, Yeah, look at this mom. I'm gonna show my mom this. Yeah, get out of here. No, man.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

No, don't look at that now. But people in my country weren't sexualizing, they'll be like, oh, yeah, she's going in, and that's it. They'll just might even walk past it. Yeah, I swear. Because it's normal, right? We don't see it as that, it's just to celebrate women. It's normal for you.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

I think I got a bunch of sex pubs and all those weird things over there, anyway. What sex is normal over there, like, oh, let's walk in the store and go have sex. I'm just saying, you're used to it, you know. Come on, you be DJing sex parties, bro.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Sex parties? No, no, no. I'm not listening. I don't go into none of them sing them. You know me, man. I'm playing with you. We got 2019 when I was everywhere. LA, I didn't go to none of those weird parties.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

No, no, no, no. I've been going straight home. No, no, don't don't don't judge about. I'm just joking, I'm just joking. She's looking at you like, what? Y'all wearing black together and all, you know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Not me.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

So the video, the video about to drop.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Yeah, the song's about to drop next week. Uh-huh. Um, but yeah, I'm just gonna be posting ass shaking every day on my socials. Yeah, and then shoot the video in the village where he originated. So right to the village. Oh, in the ivory coves. In the ivory coves. Twerkin originated.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

That's dope.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

And shoot it. I'm gonna do a whole contest so it'll be like 50 50 to 100 people.

SPEAKER_03 28:11

Are you giving some what you giving away?

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Probably a prize. I'll work it out.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Yeah, work it out. Work it out for him. You got that money, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:18

His check is still rolling. Don't get said it up. He doesn't want to be like, uh, you know, I'm cool. Um yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. So what's what I can I can't even pronounce it. How are you pronouncing it? Mapuka. Damn, I'm the only one, huh? Mapuka.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

Yeah, you said it.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

I'm smart. It took me for a second. I was like, we earlier we was like, what the hell? Yeah, well, we got it, we got it. So so this is gonna be a clean version at least that I can play for you?

SPEAKER_01 28:48

The the words in it are not bad, so it's fine. You like unless unless you mute the word nyash.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

My friend always says nyash.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yeah, booty. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

In in um, yo, you're like a super PG 13 artist, bro. Really, you think so? Yeah, bro. I just say you're sending a clean verse. Oh, no, it's clean, it's clean already. It says Nash.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Like what? That's good, that is clean.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Who man's is this fan? No, it's Afrobeats is fairly clean, though.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Yo, super clean, it's clean, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

That's good, though. Yeah, we don't really have like the pum pum lyrics and that. Uh-huh. Yeah, we don't. Because we we just think about our aunties and uncles just frowning upon us if we we say it like that in our subconscious.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

You still have morals left in you, yeah. That's good, that's good, that's good, that's good. Yeah, so exactly what day is it coming out? The 12th of June.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

My book will be out. First single of my project, Afro, Ivoire. So I'm connecting more with um the francophone side of things. So all the French speakers from the Haitians to the French speakers in Africa, everyone that speaks French, I'm connecting with them more because they felt neglected because my music's always in English. So for ages, they're like, Oh, where's our songs? Blah blah blah. So I was like, you know what? Let me just tap in and then circle back with with what I do usually.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

So you're gonna be speaking in a dialect itself?

SPEAKER_01 30:14

No, be it will be English with like French words here and there. Okay, but the beats will be different. I've got a compo by coming as well. You gotta link up with Tony Mix, man. Oh, is he based here? Yeah, he he he I think he's in Florida.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

I love his music. He definitely is heavy in the Asian game.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Yeah, there's one song of his I play. I forgot the name of it, but it's banging.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a bro. I I connect you with him when we finish, but he's definitely a good supporter of anything with a vibe. Anything with a vibe, you know what I'm saying? So I connect you with it. That's a good connection. So it's gonna be on platforms. This is your production by itself and everything, yeah. You're you're in charge of everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Yeah, I was working with uh two of my producers. We had a writing camp in Miami and just knocked it out. Yeah, man. Went trap, movie trap, came back.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Who knows about movie trap? All right, yeah, so it's gonna be out June the 12th. Yes. What's the name of it?

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Mapuka. Yeah, Mapuka.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

She gave it what kind of van. Come into America van.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

The shirt she's wearing. She's really like today.

SPEAKER_03 31:33

No, my friend is Nigerian, so she always says niash. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

She always says Nyash. So everybody, we're gonna we're gonna stream it, we're gonna buy it, support it. Apple B definitely a brother for years, and definitely we still here for you, my brother. Yeah, man. Seven years, you know.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Huh? It's been seven years, you know.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Time flies. Time flies. Yeah, at least you still answer the phone, that's good. Yeah, always, man.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Appreciate you. He keeps thinking I'm gonna switch on him.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

I'm used to it. I'm used to it. I'm used to it. I'm like that badder DJ, like oh they they move on and then I appreciate you, man. Yeah, all right. Afrobe international talk every time we hear, let's do it, baby. You think I'm a switch? Yeah, think I'm gonna take a switch.