Mom Guilt

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Stephanie Delger & Elizabeth Leach Season 1 Episode 1

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"MOM GUILT" is a podcast hosted by Stephanie Delger and Elizabeth Leach that tackles the topic of motherhood and the guilt that often comes with it. In each episode, the hosts share their own experiences and offer practical tips to help moms overcome guilt and find peace. In this particular episode, the hosts discuss the reality of falling short in motherhood, using the biblical reference of Romans 3:23 to remind listeners that nobody is perfect. However, they also offer the hope and promise of Romans 8:1, which says that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Tune in to this episode and be encouraged as a mother that your identity is as a beloved daughter of God

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My husband will come home and he'll say how was your day and I'm like, oh it's horrible and I just, you know, go off on holidays feeling. So we are just two friends were here to talk to you about Mom guilt because we've lived it. But also to not just talk about Mom guilt but to help clean the freedom that we have found through the gospel. And we know how real mom guilt is bad because we're both moms together. We've got seven kids, we're guilty in our way through life right now. So this is real, it's live. This is what we're living.
My husband will come home and he'll say, how was your day? And I'm like, oh it's horrible and I just, you know, go off on holidays flung. So we are just two friends. We're here to talk to you about Mom guilt because we've lived it. But also to not just talk about Mom guilt but to help clean the freedom that we have found through the gospel. And we know how real mom guilt is bad because we're both moms together. We've got seven kids were guilty in our way through life, right now. So, this is real, it's live. This is what we live in.
 Hello, I am Stephanie. Welcome to the mom kill a podcast, a little bit about me just so you can kind of feel like you know me. I am a wife. I have been married for 13 years here almost 14. My husband John and I have four beautiful children ranging in ages from ate all the way down.
 Hello, I am Stephanie. Welcome to the mom kill podcast. A little bit about me just so you can kind of feel like you know me. I am a wife. I have been married
 for
 13 years here almost 14. My husband John, and I have
 four beautiful children ranging in ages from ate all the way down to two and a half. So that is a busy part of my life is taking care of my kids. My husband is an executive pastor at the church where we at,
 Two and a half. So that is a busy part of my life is taken care of my kids. My husband is an executive pastor at the church, we attend. It's a bit about me. Yeah. And I
 am Elizabeth, and I have three wonderful kids. We have our oldest is 6 and our youngest is almost two and my husband also works in Ministry, but he right now is doing media for a church. So yeah. So he's actually helping
 And it's all about me. Yeah, and I am Elizabeth and I have three wonderful kids. We have our oldest is 6 and our youngest is almost two and my husband also works in Ministry but he right now is doing media for a church. So yeah. So he's actually helping us with this podcast right now so yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And so I'm a stay-at-home mom. So that is my primary job and I'm just really grateful that I get to do that.
 Being us with this podcast right now. So yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And so, I'm a stay-at-home mom. So that is my primary job and I'm just really grateful that I get to do that. Yeah.
 And the last time that I felt mom guilt was probably leaving my kids with my husband, not being there for them today, coming in to record this episode for you guys.
 Yeah, it's hard. When you leave your children with your husband and, you know, it's family time. So I totally understand that. The last time that I felt mom guilt was
 Yeah, and the last time that I felt mom guilt was probably leaving my kids with my husband, not being there for them today, coming in to record this episode for you guys. Yeah, it's hard. When you leave your children with your husband and, you know, it's family time. So I totally understand that. The last time that I felt mom guilt was earlier this week actually,
 earlier this week, actually,
 Yeah, my daughter will get into, I have to catch you up on, what's going on this week, but my dad.
 Yeah. Oh,
 daughter. Who is almost too. She was playing on her bed and she was jumping around, and she hit her head on her board. Oh no. We had to take her in to get stitches. Oh sweet. Girl. All I know is she's our littlest. It's not. I felt so guilty. So yeah, it's been one of those weeks but for sure I was your week been.
 Yeah, my daughter will get into, I have to catch you up on what's going on this week but it might not. Yeah, oh, daughter who is almost too. She was playing on her bed and she was jumping around and she hit her head on her board. Oh, take her in to get stitches. Oh sweet. Girl. All I know is she's our littlest. It's not. I felt so guilty. So yeah, it's been one of those weeks but for sure I was your week been.
 And Mia, and my week has been good.
 I actually have to say that I have a new first for motherhood, probably not in a great way. Oh no, yeah. So I was working with school with my girls and one of my other children who shall remain nameless came in and I got hit with something brown and I was like, oh no, he's throwing Marbles. And then I looked in his, it wasn't marbles, he had taken off his diaper and it was poop balls that he was throwing at me and my daughter is
 Miata. And my week has been good. I actually have to say that I have a new first for motherhood, probably not in a great way. Oh no, yeah. So I was working with school with my girls and one of my other children who shall remain nameless came in and I got hit with something brown and I was like, oh no, he's throwing Marbles. And then I looked in his, it wasn't marbles, he had taken off his diaper and it was poop balls that
 he was throwing at me and my daughter as well.
 You're dying to do with school. Make
 it is like at the zoo.
 They reminded me of the funkiest take their poop and throw it at each other like, oh my
 word. Wow. Like how humbly? Oh,
 absolutely. So my week has been, you know, pretty stinky. I guess some a literal
 sense. Yeah, week was filled with you know, blood and lots of tears and then body fluid. We and we have a cold. So there's lots of snow definitely I'm for so I'm so sorry that happened. It's one of those weeks.
 Oh, you're driving to school, make it is like at the zoo.
 They reminded me of the funkiest take their poop and
 throw it at each other like, oh my word. Wow. Like how humbly? Oh, absolutely. So my week has been, you know, pretty stinky. I guess some a literal sense. Yeah, week was filled with you know, blood and lots of tears and then body fluid. We and we have a cold. So there's lots of snow definitely I'm for so I'm so sorry that happened. It's one of those weeks.
 Can laugh about it now.
 Yeah. Yeah. I felt that and as this kind of week went on, I also felt guilty. You know, we had mmm, the TV on pretty much
 non-stop, man. You got to on those weird, because whether we
 stitches. Yeah, but you just feel so bad. You feel like, you know, like you're do this on top of it, you
 know. Oh yeah, well I'm sorry. You don't need to feel that man, when you got sick kiddos, all rules of screen type in our house are like off. It's just survival, 24/7.
 Yeah. Seriously, you're just trying to get by one day at a time.
 About it now. Yeah. Yeah, I felt that and as this kind of week went on, I also felt guilty. You know, we had mmm, the TV on pretty much non-stop, man. You got to on those weeks, whether we stitches. Yeah. But you just feel so bad. You feel like, you know, like you're do this on top of it, you know. Oh yeah, well I'm sorry. You don't need to feel that man when you got sick kiddos, all rules of screen type in our house are like off. It's just survival, 24/7. Yeah. Seriously, you're just trying to get by one day at a time.
 Kids are like on this huge Bluey kick. Ah
 I have you seen it, okay. So you actually mentioned this to me in my husband, the other day. Yeah, and we had not seen it, but after you were talking about how great it was, we actually went and we bought a season of it because at our house we don't have like so coverage or Internet. We live in like the Stone Age to be like actually bought like a disk and put it in and okay if I'm being totally honest it was super cute but it also made me feel really guilty. Okay. Because
 I'm and I'm kids are like on this huge Bluey kick. Ah, I have you seen it, okay. So you actually mentioned this to me in my husband, the other day. Yeah, and we had not seen it, but after you were talking about how great it was, we actually went and we bought a season of it because at our house we don't have like so coverage or Internet. We live in like the Stone Age. We like actually bought like a disk and put it in and it okay if I'm being totally honest it was super cute but it also made me feel really guilty. Okay, because
 Bluey and Bengals parents. They're like amazing. They are like will let their kids like hit him on the head while they're playing doctor and like always do whatever the kids want and I'm looking at that I'm like oh I should play with my kids more. I'm a horrible mom because I want to play with my kids the way the bluey's parents play with them. Have you ever felt that while watching that
 actually, now that you say that and I'm taking a minute to really think about it. I have thought that because as far as like shows that we watch there,
 We and Bengals parents. They're like amazing. They are like will let their kids like hit him on the head while they're playing doctor and like always do whatever the kids want and I'm looking at that I'm like oh I should play with my kids more. I'm a horrible mom because I want to play with my kids the way that bluey's parents play with them. Have you ever felt that while watching that actually, now that you say that and I'm taking a minute to really think about it. I have thought that because as far as like shows that we watch there,
 Most family like yeah, I mean it's a great show. Like there's so
 many aspects of it, which are
 fantastic. Yeah, but even looking at some of the episodes that they do, like they never yell. And yeah, if their child's, like, let's play. Taxi Driver play Taxi Driver. Yeah. And they are always so fun. So, Yes, actually, I now that you say that I can totally relate to that.
 Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one man and we're actually like we had
 The most family like yeah, I mean it's a great show. Like there's so many aspects of it, which are fantastic. Yeah, but even looking at some of the episodes that they do like they never yell. And yeah, if their child's like, let's play Taxi Driver a taxi driver. Yeah, and they are always so fun. So, Yes, actually, I now that you say that I can totally relate to that. Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one man and we're actually like we had talked
 Talked about like the comparison. Yeah, of so often. That's what I do looking at other moms. And in this aspect it's like okay this is a written TV show. This isn't even like real parents that I'm comparing myself. This is like the ideal. Like they get to choose how the characters mess up and how they succeed and how they interact with their kids. It's not real
 life. No, no, they exactly. It's not, it's not real trials. Real hardships, they're not really tired. They're not your children aren't really disobeying.
 Out like the comparison. Yeah, of so often that's what I do looking at other moms. And in this aspect it's like okay this is a written TV show. This isn't even like real parents that I'm comparing myself. This is like the ideal. Like they get to choose how the characters mess up and how they succeed and how they interact with their kids. It's not real life. No, no, they exactly. It's not, it's not real trials. Real hardships, they're not really tired. They're not your children aren't really disobeying.
 Them, it's all pretend well. And I've even
 seeing like on social media where they're like I've never felt more understood as a parent when I saw the back of bluey's van and I'm looking sort of pay attention to those things out and I'm like okay their van is like Immaculate. Oh, compared to my van.
 I'm so glad that you say that because even when the mom I think there's an episode where she's frustrated and she needs a moment for herself. She does it in the most like
 Them it's all pretend well and I've even seen like on social media where they're like I've never felt more understood as a parent when I saw the back of bluey's van
 and I'm looking sort of pay attention to those things now and I'm
 like, okay, their van is like Immaculate. Oh, compared to my van. I'm so glad that you say that because even when the mom, I think there's an episode where she's frustrated and she needs a moment for herself. She does it in the most like
 Calm collected mature way. But even when they mess up, or they're messy, it's like in the most, beautiful picture, perfect way.
 So true, even their mess ups are perfect. I'm just like, oh man, if I could make mistakes at the level that bluey's parents make mistakes and I'm doing good.
 Oh, yeah. My kids will be like, set for life. No, trauma for them.
 Yeah, man. So I guess like watching that TV show, I'm feeling guilty. And like, now that I've said that,
 calm collected mature way. But even when they mess up, or they're messy, it's like in the most beautiful picture, perfect way. Oh, that's so true. Even their mess ups are perfect. I'm just like, oh man, if I could make mistakes at the level that bluey's parents make mistakes and I'm doing good. Oh, yeah. My kids will be like, set for life. No, trauma for them. Yeah, man. So I guess like watching that TV show, I'm feeling guilty. And like, now that I've said that on,
 Unfortunately, I haven't totally ruined Bluey for you and your family now,
 you know, like why do you think
 that we feel guilty when watching TV shows like this? Yeah, that's
 that's really hard because I don't know if I always take the time to ask myself why, sometimes I feel that way and then I kind of move on or I internalized it and never get to the root of it. Hmm. And so I'm glad that you asked that,
 I guess you're right because I sometimes will like walk away and I'm frustrated.
 Absolutely. I haven't totally ruined Bluey for you and your family now, you know, like why do you think that we feel guilty when watching TV shows like this? Yeah, that's that's really hard because I don't know if I always take the time to ask myself why, sometimes I feel that way and then I kind of move on or I internalized it and never get to the root of it. Hmm. And so I'm glad that you asked that, I guess you're right because I sometimes will like walk away and I'm frustrated and
 It really know why I'm frustrated until the end of the day. I'm talking with my husband, John. And then all the sudden like this light bulb goes off and it's like oh my goodness, I was comparing myself to this and I felt like I failed I get really angry and instead of making me want to do better. I almost like pull back and you know I'm done with life. Just forget
 it. Yes and I'm very similar in that sometimes I to a fault like if I'm not good at something the first time than I give up and so sometimes I have days like that with parenting where I'm like, man I'm not
 Don't really know why I'm frustrated until the end of the day. I'm talking with my husband John and then all of a sudden like this light bulb goes off and it's like oh my goodness, I was comparing myself to this and I felt like I failed. I get really angry and instead of making me want to do better. I almost like pull back and like, oh I'm done with life. Just forget it. Yes, and I'm very similar in that sometimes I too have felt like if I'm not good at something the first time that I give up, it's a sometimes I have days like that with parenting where I'm like, man, I'm not blue.
 Bluey and bingos parent so I might as well just give up today and I feel so defeated. Mmm. So I think, you know, I think of what is the standard of a good parrot. Yeah and you know when I'm watching that I'm thinking oh do I meet that standard? Is it like pass or fail? And today I failed that standard and yeah, you know, I feel hopeless. Mmm. And then the days that I do meet it I'm like look at me everybody like
 Mm. Bingo is parent so I might as well just give up today and I feel so defeated. Mmm. So I think, you know, I think of what is the standard of a good parrot. Yeah and you know when I'm watching that I'm thinking oh do I meet that standard? Is it like pass or fail? And today I failed that standard and yeah, you know, I feel hopeless. Mmm. And then the days that I do meet it I'm like look at me everybody like
 Pat myself on the back Mom of the
 Year? Yes, I can totally. So there's like the standard and then when yeah like what you were saying when you when you don't hit the standard or like check the boxes, you look, I'm a horrible mom. Yes. But then on the flip side, there are some days when I can chuckle out of the boxes. I'm like, oh look at me, I'm a great mom. Watch that you guys all see this over there, I'm gonna take a picture and put it on social media.
 Yeah, exactly. Oh I do that all the time, if I really am honest with myself and then I guess if I get to the root I'm like
 Pat myself on the back Mom of the Year? Yes, I can totally. So there's like the standard and then when yeah, like what you were saying, when you when you don't hit the Standard, Electric the boxes, you look. I'm a horrible mom. Yes. But then on the flip side, there are some days when I can check a lot of the boxes I'm like, oh look at me, I'm a great mom. Watch that you guys will see this over. There are going to take a picture and put it on social media. Yeah exactly. Oh I do that all the time. If I really am honest with myself and then I guess if I get to the root I'm like oh man.
 Oh, man, for that day. Or even that our like, my worth is in whether I meet that bar like that standard.
 Yeah man. Yeah, your worth is in like what you're doing? If you're heading all the check marks and then if you are it's like oh a plus and then if you're not it's like oh no, I'm failing. Yes, I can totally relate to that.
 Yeah, and some days there's like genuine conviction. Mmm. You know, sometimes I see them and I'm like, I want to do that more like, yeah, I want to
 And for that day, or even that our like, my worth is in whether I meet that bar, like that standard. Yeah, man. Yeah, worth is in like what you're doing. If you're heading all the check marks and then if you are it's like oh a plus and then if you're not it's like oh no, I'm failing. Yes, I can totally relate to that. Yeah, and some days there's like genuine conviction. Mmm. You know, sometimes I see them and I'm like I want to do that more like yeah, I want to have
 Those memories and yes, you know what, I don't feel maybe as much guilt. I just feel like inspired. I don't know if
 that's the right. Yeah, I know there's a lot of games that we actually have played like our kids, just got a trampoline for Christmas and they are some episodes of the trampoline where they like make of a fruit shake or something or like crack the egg. And so, actually has been some really great aspects because I would not have been creative enough to think about playing that game with my kids but because blue, we did, my kids wanted to play with it. And in that moment I could say, okay. Yeah.
 have those memories and yeah, see you know what? I don't feel maybe as much guilt. I just feel like inspired. I don't know if that's the right. Yeah, I know there's a lot of games that we actually have played like our kids. Just got a trampoline for Christmas and they are some episode with the trampoline where they like make of a fruit shake or something or like crack the egg. And so, actually has been some really great aspects because I would not have been creative enough to think about playing that game with my kids but because blue, we did, my kids wanted to play with it. And in that moment I could say, okay. Yeah.
 Let's do that.
 Yeah, exactly. So there's a lot of good takeaways that I feel like I can learn from and I feel like I do that. Sure Bluey but I do that you know like I learned from other moms in a positive way. So yes, there's General conviction but typically when I feel true guilt, yeah, it's because my Identity or worth is in that standard, I guess you are a mom who has taught me a lot. And we've I don't know, like, I feel like we grow together.
 Do that. Yeah exactly. So there's a lot of good takeaways that I feel like I can learn from and I feel like they do that sure with Bluey but I do that you know like I learned from other moms in a positive way. So yes, there's General conviction but typically when I feel true guilt, yeah, it's because my Identity or worth is in that standard, I guess you are a mom who has taught me a lot. And we've I don't know, like, I feel like we grow together.
 Together and we need each other to encourage one another and you know get to the heart of it so maybe you can kind of help me with this. So who sets the bar? What is a good mom and basically like who defines
 it?
 Weather and we need each other to encourage one another and you know get to the heart of it. So maybe you can kind of help me with this. So who sets the bar? What is a good mom and basically like who defines it?
 Man, how would a good question to talk about, like, who sets the bar? Who defines it? I mean, it's kind of a Christian answer but really the Bible, write it like the Bible is so important and it impacts everything. And it has so much to say about all of our Lives as Christians and God designed it that way. So, I think like this, the standard of what you and I should aspire to as a mom would be, let's look at what the Bible says, right? So immediately, it kind of makes me think of Deuteronomy
 Man, how would a good question to talk about, like, who sets the bar? Who defines it? I mean, it's kind of a Christian answer but really the Bible, write it like the Bible is so important and it impacts everything. And it has so much to say about all of our Lives as Christians and God designed it that way. So, I think like this, the standard of what you and I should aspire to as a mom would be, let's look at what the Bible says, right? So immediately, it kind of makes me think of Deuteronomy
 Me, six, which is usually a passage that if you have heard people talk about parenting, this is kind of a popular one. So this is something that is written for the Israelites in the Old Testament. And what this is doing is Moses is studying the example of what they should do or telling the Israelites. This is how you should live when you enter into the promised land. So they're going to give all kinds of laws but specifically Moses gets into how parents should interact with their kids. So do
 X, which is usually a passage that if you have heard people talk about parenting. This is kind of a popular one. So this is something that is written for the Israelites in the Old Testament. And what this is doing is Moses is setting the example of what they should do or telling the Israelites. This is how you should live when you enter into the promised land. So they're going to give all kinds of laws but specifically Moses gets into how parents should interact with their kids. So Deuteronomy
 Nanami 6 verses 5 through 7. It says you shall love the Lord. Your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might and these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children and shalt talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down and when you rise, so Moses is telling the Israelites you need to talk to your kids. You need to live your life in a way that your kids can see the Lord. And I think, in some ways that can really be
 Me 6 verses 5 through 7. It says you shall love the Lord. Your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might and these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children and shalt talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down and when you rise, so Moses is telling the Israelites you need to talk to your kids. You need to live your life in a way that your kids can see the Lord. And I think in some ways that can really be the
 The standard of what God is desire and for a pair. I mean that's the standard that Moses is setting for the Israelites,
 right? Yes. Yeah, and I'm really glad that you brought that up because even as I'm thinking about Bluey, and I'm kind of thinking about the standard that they set in contrast to this. You know, it's not evident that Bluey and bingos parents love the Lord with all their heart and all their soul.
 Yeah, it's not a Christian show.
 No. And so really take a myself or our to compare ourselves to them.
 Third of what God is. Desiring for a pair. I mean, that's the standard that Moses is setting for the Israelites, right? Yes. Yeah, and I'm really glad that you brought that up because even as I'm thinking about Bluey, and I'm kind of thinking about the standard that they set in contrast to this. You know, it's not evident that Bluey and bingos parents love the Lord with all their heart and all their soul. Yeah, it's not a Christian show. No. And so really take a myself or our to compare ourselves to them is
 Is not a healthy thing to do and even weave like thinking about it. They really have a child first mentality where, you know, their children kind of come before. Well we don't know if they're not
 Christians but let's
 say that they were their children would come before their faith, their children would come before honestly, it seems like each other. I'm so kind of pointing out the differences helps me to know, okay, this isn't true in. This is what's true. This is
 Not a healthy thing to do and even weave like thinking about it. They really have a child first mentality where, you know, their children kind of come before. Well we don't know if they're not Christians but let's say that they were their children would come before their faith, their children would come before honestly, it seems like each other. I'm so kind of pointing out the differences helps me to know, okay, this isn't true in, this is what's true. This is what I
 Is what I should be focusing on in. This is what I shouldn't be.
 Yeah, I think that's a great point that that when we are looking at the show, you know, there's so often as mom's we are told put your child first. Yeah, you know. So then there's also this like conversation of like will beat you need to take care of yourself. You know. There's this whole other conversation that you can have about this stuff cares. Yeah. But that stems from you hearing so much as a mom, your child needs to be first and there's this push back of well.
 Would be focusing on in, this is what I shouldn't be. Yeah, I think that's a great point that that when we are looking at the show, you know, there's so often as mom's we are told put your child first. Yeah, you know. So then there's also this like conversation of like will beat you need to take care of yourself. You know. There's this whole other conversation that you can have about this stuff cares. Yeah. But that stems from you hearing so much as a mom, your child needs to be first and there's this push back of well.
 But is that really what we're supposed to do? Right as Christians? We have like an order type of love so we would say God first spouse, second kids, third, which immediately you can feel some pushback defensive. But if you
 say that and people are like uh because I feel like you know, the generations before us, it was not that way. It was like you put your children first even at the detriment of your own marriage. Yeah I'm excited. We see that with really high divorce rates and
 But is that really what we're supposed to do? Right as Christians? We have like an order type of love so we would say God first spouse, second kids, third, which immediately you can feel some pushback defensive. But if you say that and people are like uh because I feel like you know the generations before us it was not that way. It was like you put your children first even at the detriment of your own marriage. Yeah I feel like we see that with really high divorce rates and
 So I even you saying that, I know that as truth, but you try and combat that or you even just say that out loud to anyone else your peers, your family, you get a lot of
 pushback, right? And I think I mean, this isn't I don't think new froze, because even if you look back at Deuteronomy 6, I mean it starts out with, you shall love the Lord, your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might, it doesn't say you shall love your children this way. No talking that you will have this love for the Lord which then you have for your spouse because biblically spouses.
 So I even you saying that, I know that as truth, but you try and combat that or you even just say that out loud to anyone else your peers, your family, you get a lot of pushback, right? And I think I mean, this isn't I don't think new froze, because even if you look back at Deuteronomy 6, I mean it starts out with, you shall love the Lord, your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might, it doesn't say you shall love your children this way. No talking that you will have this love for the Lord which then you have for your spouse because biblically spouse has come before
 For children for the Bible. So then you've got God your spouse and then the best way that this size to love your kids to teach them about the Lord, so that they can have God first and their life as
 well. Yeah. And if we're thinking of really what's best for our children, what's best for our children is for them to know God and love God. Absolutely. And also to see happy healthy biblical marriage has to write. Like sometimes, you know, if our marriage suffers are,
 children. Yay, for the Bible. So then you've got God your spouse and then the best way that this size to love your kids to teach them about the Lord, so that they can have God first and their life as well. Yeah. And if we're thinking of really what's best for our children, what's best for our children is for them to know God and love God. Absolutely. And also to see happy healthy biblical marriage has to write. Like sometimes, you know, if our marriage suffers our faiths,
 Faith. Suffers, because we put our children first that really doesn't help our children. So trying to shift that mindset and maybe what our peers are what our family tells us that's opposite to that say, no, I am doing. What's best for them? I want them to see what it looks like to walk with the Lord. Which isn't perfect, you know, I'm that's going to require prayer and repentance and humility. It's going to be hard but I want them to see that so that
 First, because we put our children first that really doesn't help our children. So trying to shift that mindset and maybe what our peers are what our family tells us that's opposite to that say, no, I am doing. What's best for them? I want them to see what it looks like to walk with the Lord. Which isn't perfect, you know, I'm that's going to require prayer and repentance and humility. It's going to be hard but I want them to see that so that they
 you know what that looks like and then same with your marriage and that that just bleeds into every aspect of parenting in
 know what that looks like and then same with your marriage and that that just bleeds into every aspect of parenting in discipling them basically. Yeah I know, I can totally see that in my life. If I'm being honest, if I am not spending consistent time with the Lord and I haven't picked up my Bible in a while, I can see that affect my relationship with John my husband and I'm more likely to snap and yell at my kids out of frustration and not
 Discipling them basically.
 Yeah, I know, I can totally see that in my life. If I'm being honest, if I am not spending consistent time with the Lord and I haven't picked up my Bible in a while, I can see that affect my relationship with John my husband and I'm more likely to snap and yell at my kids out of frustration and not treat them the way. That, I mean, I love my kids, I don't want that to treat them that way, but man, if I can see that pattern in my life, if I am not in the word,
 Treat them the way that, I mean, I love my kids. I don't want that to treat them that way, but man, if I can see that pattern in my life, if I am not in the word consistently, it does affect those other relationships. Yeah, I can relate to that. I really struggle with pride, and it's interesting how having children really reveals that revealed that to me? How, how prideful I am in? God is working through that and me but, you know, even when I mess up, you know, if I'm not in the word and really just
 currently, it does affect those other
 relationships. Yeah, I can relate to that. I really struggle with pride, and it's interesting how having children really reveals that revealed that to me? How, how prideful I am in? God is working through that and me but, you know, even when I mess up, you know, if I'm not in the word and really just pray like being intentional about praying and walking with the Lord, how I don't want to ask for forgiveness when I sit against my children.
 Pray like being intentional about praying and walking with the Lord, how I don't want to ask for forgiveness, when I sit against my children, when maybe I yell or I handle things in a way that isn't biblical, I am prideful, I don't want to admit, I'm wrong. So, I think you're right. I think we should really the heart needs to be that we love the Lord first. Yeah. With all of our heart and all of our soul and then from that bleeds into how we parent and how,
 Maybe I yell or I handle things in a way that isn't biblical. I am prideful. I don't want to admit, I'm wrong. So, I think you're right. I think we should really the heart needs to be that we love the Lord first. Yeah. With all of our heart and all of our soul and then from that bleeds into how we parent and how we disciple our kids,
 Mmm, Yeah. There's another passage that John and I actually have prayed over our kids and really talked about in our house it
 Staple our kids, Mmm. Yeah there's another passage that John and I actually have prayed over our kids and really talked about in our house. It's actually Psalm 78 and it's a longer one so I won't read it here on the podcast but this whole idea I mean the heading of it is tall. The coming generation so it's the idea of you love the Lord, your God with all your heart and soul and mind and what does that lead to? It talks about you then sharing that with your kids, telling them about the wonderful things that God has done in your life and that God can be trusted. He's a promise.
 Actually it's Psalm 78 and it's a longer one so I won't read it here on the podcast but this whole idea I mean the heading of it is tell the coming generation so it's the idea of you love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and mind and what does that lead to? It talks about you then sharing that with your kids, telling them about the wonderful things that God has done in your life and that God can be trusted, he's a promise keeper, you know, all these different things and we're called to train our children in the Bible with that, but also to show them and give them examples.
 Keeper, you know, all these different things and we're called to train our children in the Bible with that, but also to show them and give them examples from their everyday life. Yeah, I really like that, you know, when I think about parenting that isn't the first scripture that comes to mind. So I'm glad that you shared that and how we can go back and meditate on that. And really, it's about the Next Generation. I think, you know, we both have husbands that are in Ministry and what they do is so important and they have said this to us, but what we do at
 I'm there every day
 life. Yeah, I really like that, you know, when I think about parenting that isn't the first scripture that comes to mind. So I'm glad that you shared that and how we can go back and meditate on that. And really, it's about the Next Generation. I think, you know, we both have husbands that are in Ministry and what they do is so important and they have said this to us, but what we do at home with discipling our children. It impacts Generations the calm and what they do. Yes, you know, preaching the gospel or
 Home. I'm with disabling our children. It impacts generations to come and what they do? Yes. You know, preaching the gospel or sharing. The good news is so important, we need to be doing that but yet what we do at home with discipling our children in, you know, so they grow up to love the Lord and they will disciple their children and then they will disciple their children, impacts Generations. Hundreds of people for years to come. So I really like that and I'm really glad you shared that. Yeah, I think that's a really great.
 Sharing the good news is so important to me to be doing that. But yet what we do at home with discipling our children in, you know, so they grow up to love the Lord and they will disciple their children and then they will disciple their children, impacts Generations. Hundreds of people for years to come. So I really like that and I'm really glad you shared that.
 Yeah, I think that's a really great point. So like what our husbands do is absolutely really important, but I think so often being a mom can feel so behind the scenes and hidden.
 A point. So like what our husbands do is absolutely really important. But I think so often being a mom can feel so behind the scenes and hidden and yet my husband will come home. And he's like, how was your day? And I'm like, oh it's horrible. And I just, you know, go off on
 holidays,
 but in those moments, he's like, honey, you are doing the day-to-day Ministry and you have a greater impact on our kids lives than I do in my so many hours a week that I'm seeing people at church and I mean, our husbands work more than a couple
 And yet, my husband will come home and he'll say, how was your day. And I'm like, oh it's horrible. And I just, you know, go off on holidays, but in those moments, he's like, honey, you are doing the day-to-day Ministry and you have a greater impact on our kids lives than I do. In my so many hours a week that I'm seeing people at church. And I mean, our husbands work more than a couple hours a week and I can attest to that. Yes. But but like, if there's preaching, you know, you've got this 60 minutes at most that the pastor has
 A week. Yeah, and I can attest to that, yes, but but like if there's preaching, you know, you've got this 60 minutes at most that the pastor has to change Hearts where you and I, as moms have 24/7, sometimes the middle of the night when they have a nightmare and we pray with them. Yeah. Well, the impact that you and I are able to do so often, feels like it doesn't matter. But I think a greater argument can be, that's actually the most impactful thing that we can do is Mom's. Yes, I agree. And I like, like, you know, taking that I'm thinking of the
 Has to change Hearts where you and I, as moms have 24/7, sometimes in the middle of the night when they have a nightmare and we play with them. Yeah. Well, the impact that you and I are able to do so often, feels like it doesn't matter. But I think a greater argument can be, that's actually the most impactful thing that we can
 do is Mom's. Yes, I agree. And I like, like, you know, taking that I'm thinking of the heart, we're trying to get to the heart of our children. Yeah, to love the Lord. We don't just want obedience, sometimes I
 do.
 We're trying to get to the heart of our children. Yeah. To love the Lord. We don't just want obedience, sometimes I
 do because I said so
 and I don't always have the right perspective, but even as I think of like back to Bluey and what they're doing and they're playing with their children and it's great. It's wonderful. But I think of the heart. What is our heart behind doing these things? So if if we are playing with our children but it's out of a heart that is sinful and maybe it's just
 I'm sinful. And I don't always have the right perspective, but even as I think of like back to Bluey and what they're doing, and they're playing with their children, and it's great. It's wonderful. But I think of the heart. What is our heart behind doing these things? So if if we are playing with our children but it's out of a heart that is sinful, and maybe it's just for praise from outside peers. Sometimes I'm guilty of that posting on social media, what I'm doing because I want people to be like, wow,
 For praise from outside peers. Sometimes I'm guilty of that posting on social media, what I'm doing because I want people to be like, wow, look, I'm such a great mom, so there's that Pride. Yeah. Okay. Can I just so if I'm being totally honest, I'm maybe I'm the only one, not only gonna limp, but I've actually sometimes like taking my kids to a park and what determines, what park they go to is what one will? Give me the best picture on social media.
 Yes, am I the only I certainly don't say that. Am I
 the only one? No.
 Look, I'm such a great mom. So there's that
 Pride. Yeah. Okay. Can I just so if I'm being totally honest? I'm maybe I'm the only one I'm gonna go out on a limb, but I've actually sometimes, like, taking my kids to a park and what determines, what park they go to is what one will give me the best picture on social media. Yes, am I the only I certainly don't say that. Am I the only one
 know I've done that so much? I mean, the amount of time that I'm like, sit, take a picture. Take a picture and look how much fun we're having. And then I'm like, wait.
 No, I've done that so much. I mean, the amount of time that I'm like, sit, take a picture. Take a picture and look how much fun we're having and then I'm like, oh wait, stop it, don't have fun because I need this
 picture, it smile. Yes it's
 so ironic and and then I'm so consumed looking at my phone like who's liking it? Who's looking at it. It's so right. So like if I'm taking we're taking our children. Yeah, to go do these things but really the heart is for others. It's not even really for our kids. I know,
 Stop it. Don't have fun because I need this
 picture, it smile. Yes it's so
 ironic and and then I'm so consumed looking at my phone like who's liking it? Who's looking at it. It's so right. So like if I'm taking we're taking our children. Yeah. To go do these things but really the heart is for others. It's not even really for our kids. I know. So convicting, I know it's like oh, wow. Like we really just want the praise and glory. Yeah. Not God. So,
 So convicting I
 know it's like oh wow. Like we really just want the praise and glory. Yeah, not God. So is there is there a balance? I mean because it's not like all we do all day is good like it doesn't make you a good mom to just sit at the table all
 day and read your Bible and why Trey Songz,
 okay. First off, I don't think my kids would say no more than five minutes, but you know, it seems like there's got to be this balance and like what you're talking about. It's the heart that really did. That's that's what's going to determine because
 Is there, is there a
 balance? I mean because it's not like all we do all day is good like it doesn't make you a good mom to just sit at the table all day and read your Bible and why Trey Songz, okay. First off, I don't think my kids would say no more than five minutes, but, you know, it seems like there's got to be this balance and like what you're talking about. It's the heart that really did. That's, that's what's going to determine because you can do your actions with the right heart or the wrong heart. Yeah. I like taking your kids out to plan getting pictures with them.
 So you can do your actions with the right heart or the wrong heart. Yeah, I like taking your kids out to plan getting pictures with them can be great because you want to savor this moment and this one time at your having together. So there's the outward action of taking them to a park and getting pictures with a good heart versus taking your kids to a park, that will be a great social media picture. And then you can just be like, oh, I got it and I'm gonna sit here on my phone and, you know, do whatever. Yeah, and I would say that's actually not a great.
 Can be great because you want to savor this moment and this fun time that you're having together. So there's the outward action of taking them to a park and getting pictures with a good heart versus taking your kids to a park, that will be a great social media picture. And then you can just be like, oh, I got it and I'm gonna sit here on my phone and, you know, do whatever. Yeah, and I would say that's actually not a great heart in that moment.
 No, I think you're so right, like, we could do all of the right things, but if we do it with the wrong heart posture, what does it
 In that moment. No, I think you're so right like we could do all of the right things but if we do it with the wrong heart posture, what does it matter? Yeah. Or you can do all of the wrong things, right? Like maybe you look like you're if we're going by the standard that Bluey sets. Maybe you're not meeting that standard but you're doing it with a humble heart, for the Lord, then that's all that matters. Then really, you're not failing as a mom. Yeah. So if you're the mom, that's sitting on the park bench on there,
 It matter? Yeah, or you can do all of the wrong things, right? Like maybe you look like you're if we're going by the standard that Bluey sets. Maybe you're not meeting that standard but you're doing it with a humble heart, for the Lord, then that's all that matters. Then really, you're not failing as a mom. Yeah.
 So if you're the mom that's sitting on the park bench on their phone, while your kids are playing, that doesn't make you a bad mom. No, like, that's okay. You don't know what that Mom has gone through it. The rest of the day. Maybe she brought.
 Phone, while your kids are playing. That doesn't make you a bad mom, no, like that's okay. You don't know what that Mom has gone through it, the rest of the day, maybe she brought her kids to the park because she's not feeling well, they just need to play and she's got everything she has to like keep it together to take care of the kids until she can collapse on the couch because my friend there. Yeah exactly. And if you are the mom who is just a go-getter and you love playing with your kids, you love doing things in your heart is for the Lord. That is go for it. Yes, right. Like
 It's to the park because she's not feeling well, they just need to play and she's got everything she has to like keep it together to take care of the kids until she can collapse on the couch because my friend there. Yeah exactly. And if
 you are the mom who is just a go-getter and you love playing with your kids, you love doing things in your heart is for the Lord that
 is go for it.
 Yes, right. Like, you know, that is good, continue to glorify the Lord in that. So yeah, so exactly whether you're the mom who does play with your kids or maybe
 You know, that is good, continue to glorify the Lord in that. So, yeah, so, exactly, whether you're the mom who does play with your kids, or maybe you're the mom, who's more like me. And I, my kids play independently, most of the time, you know, do it with the right heart posture because having the great heart posture, I mean, you and I can talk about that and that's that like sitting here. That's what I want all the time, but there's this reality that that's not always going to be the case, right? We're gonna fail, we're gonna miss the Mark. We're not going to do things.
 You're the mom who's more like me and I my kids play independently, most of the time, you know, do it with the right heart posture
 because having the great heart posture, I mean, you and I can talk about that and that's that, like sitting here. That's what I want all the time, but there's this reality, that that's not always going to be the case, right? We're gonna fail, we're gonna miss the Mark. We're not going to do things with the right heart posture, and we know that, because the Bible says it right? As I was thinking about that preparing for the podcast. No, Romans 3:23.
 Things with the right heart posture, and we know that because the Bible says it right? As I was thinking about that preparing for the podcast. No. Romans 3:23. As a scripture, that I came across. And Romans 3:23 says, for all, have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So as much as you and I try to do everything with a right heart posture. Having that like check the box, check the box. Oops, I didn't check that box. Like we can't do things perfectly. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah, that makes me.
 Three as a scripture that I came across in. Romans 3:23 says, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So as much as you and I try to do everything with a right heart posture. Having that like check the box, check the box. Oops, I didn't check that box. Like we can't do things perfectly. Yeah, that's hard.
 Yeah, that makes me think like oh man. Like you know what? If I am the mom who is failing like even by Bluey standards, I
 Think like oh man, like you know what? If I am the mom who is failing like even by bluey's standards, I already feel like I am. But what if I am feel like what if I do feel like I'm Feeling by biblical standards right now? Maybe I'm in a season where I haven't done that. Well, yeah, I've definitely been there and it's one of the things where, you know, we just Romans 3:23 for all have sinned but that's not where Romans leaves us right now. If you flip forward, just a couple chapters and Romans 8
 Ready. Feel like I am. But what if I am feel like what if I do feel like I'm Feeling by biblical standards right now? Maybe I'm in a season where I haven't done that. Well,
 yeah, I've definitely been there and it's one of the things where, you know, we just Romans 3:23 for all have sinned but that's not where Romans leaves us right now. If you flip forward just a couple chapters. And Romans 8, it says Romans 8 verse 1. It says that there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus and there's this
 8, it says Romans 8 verse 1, it says that there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus and there's this reality that. Yes, we're Sinners. But if you're saved, you're also a saint, right? Like, you that you are not defined by your sin, any longer. If you have asked Jesus into your heart and believed in him alone, for yourself ation, you are then in Christ and that is such a beautiful promise because we don't need to feed that guilt. We don't need to feel that
 Reality that? Yes, we're Sinners. But if you're saved, you're also a saint, right? Like, you, that you are not defined by your sin, any longer. If you have asked Jesus into your heart and believed in him alone, for yourself ation, you are then in Christ and that is such a beautiful promise because we don't need to feed that guilt. We don't need to feel that condemnation. You can feel the love that God has for you. And for me, and for you listener as well, the HUD loves you.
 Condemnation. You can feel the love that God has for you and for me, and for you listener as well, the HUD loves you and that is your identity as a beloved daughter of God. Oh man, I need that every
 day. I say that more
 for me than I do for you, trust me. You know, I feel like we have to preach that to one another and that's why we're doing this, right? Like I mean, that's why we felt like, God was calling us to do this podcast because as friends, this is what we've done for
 And that is your identity as a beloved daughter of
 God. Oh man, I need that every day. I say
 that more for me than I do for you, trust me. You
 know I feel like we have to preach that to one another and that's why we're doing this, right? Like I mean that's why we felt like, God was calling us to do this podcast because as friends this is what we've done for each other. Yeah, absolutely. You know, we've encouraged each other, we have prayed for one another. We have empathize with one another and we have preached the gospel to each other.
 Each other. Yeah absolutely. You know we've encouraged each other, we have prayed for one another. We have empathize with one another and we have preached the gospel to each other and that is what Biblical Godly friendship looks like. And we want that for every person, listening as truly our heart in this. So yeah, resting in that that our identity is not in what we do and you know how much we play with our kids or how little we play with our kids, but our identity is in what Jesus did on the cross.
 And that is what Biblical Godly friendship looks like. And we want that for every person listening is truly our heart in this. So yeah, resting in that that our identity is not in what we do and you know how much we play with our kids, or how little we play with our kids, but our identity is in what Jesus did on the cross for us. Absolutely. Yeah, we need. We need that. We need that reminder and we need to surround ourselves with people that who will help us to remember that.
 Or is absolutely. Yeah, we need. We need that. We need that reminder and we need to surround ourselves with people that who will help us to remember that. Yeah, so I think listener, you know, if you're a mom who constantly plays with your kids or lets them play independently, most of the time that you can find Freedom and the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Mom's, you guys can be unburdened by guilt by placing your identity in Christ, and what Jesus has done for you on the cross. So you can live your
 That.
 Yeah. So I think listener, you know, if you're a mom who constantly plays with your kids or lets them play independently, most of the time that you can find Freedom and the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Mom's, you guys can be unburdened by guilt by placing your identity in Christ, and what Jesus has done for you on the cross. So you can live your life and you can go Mommy and or doing whatever that looks like for you to the glory of God and can do so and worship him out of a clean and grateful heart.
 life and you can go Mommy and or
 doing whatever that looks like for you to
 the glory of God and can do so and worship him out of a clean and grateful heart. Yeah. Whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God and have that heart posture. Absolutely. Well if you like this content, please be sure to subscribe rate and review this podcast so that you and others can find Freedom from guilt. Through the Gospel of
 Jesus Christ. Have a great week and we will see you next time. Bye.
 Yeah. Whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God and have that heart posture. Absolutely.
 Well if you like this content, please be sure to subscribe rate and review this podcast so that you and others can find Freedom from guilt. Through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Have a great week and we will see you next time. Bye.
 And if you have any stories from your life, where you are really struggling with Mom guilt and any different area, we would love to help and talk about that here on the podcast. So, if you have anything that you would like us to talk about any specific category, you can actually email that question to us at mom guilt podcast at gmail.com. So, we can talk about those stories here on the podcast and you can become unburdened through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 And if you have any stories from your life, where you are really struggling with Mom guilt and any different area, we would love to help and talk about that here on the podcast. So, if you have anything that you would like us to talk about any specific category, you can actually email that question to us at mom guilt podcast at gmail.com. So, we can talk about those stories here on the podcast and you can become unburdened through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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