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Mary Magdalene - The Tower Who Stayed

March 03, 2026 • Cydni and Sher • Season 4 • Episode 155

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Mary Magdalene was not defined by seven devils. She was defined by staying. Healed completely. Loyal completely. Devoted completely. In this episode, we begin preparing for Easter by pulling the string on one of the most misunderstood women in scripture. Rediscover Mary Magdalene as the Tower—steadfast at the cross, first at the empty tomb—and learn how her fierce loyalty teaches us to hear Him. He lives. And He still calls us by name. The episode is "Mary Magdalene, The Tower Who Stayed" and we are so glad you are here!

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Episode 155 - Mary Magdalene the Tower Who Stayed

Cydni: [00:00:00] I'm struggling starting this one because I've been told through the Holy Spirit to be reverent and that ruins everything for me to be reverent. So I'm trying to combat my natural self with what I've been inspired to do, which is be reverence.

And I was like, could you expand on what you mean by reverent please, because I'm struggling with this, but I'm working on it. And as I have studied and prepared in the most reverence.

I'm capable of. I did really appreciate this thought from Mandy Green. She says, as you study Mary Magdalene, you might feel like there's a sense to pull a little bit of a string, and if you have that prompting, like an investigation , pull the string and follow it.

And as I have studied about Mary Magdalene. One, I feel like I need several years before I have the capacity to speak to who she is. And the other is I feel like I pulled a string that is now a mass fabric that covers me and it's [00:01:00] so overwhelming, but it's also so beautiful and warm, and I am so happy to be here.

Welcome to the Cydni and Sher podcast.

Sher: All right, Cydni. This year we are going to continue to study the basics, and Cydni had this genius idea. To study the basics of Easter since, you know, Easter's coming up in April, Cydni, and I wanted to be ahead of the game and we wanted to get our preparation for the Easter season ready to go

Cydni: because we spend so much time getting ready for the Christmas season.

Sher: Correct.

Cydni: I think when referring to a man who died and was raised again and lives again and died for us, that maybe we could spend a little more time too.

Sher: I think you're correct. we really wanted to learn about different aspects of Easter. And today we wanted to start with, as you've already. Alluded to Cydni. We wanted to learn about the incredible woman, Mary Magdalene. She was the first to [00:02:00] see our Savior rise from the dead and the first to testify that He lives, but before she was a witness to the Savior's resurrection, she was a woman who needed healing just like the rest of us.

So first let's learn about how she needed to be healed. And we find this in Luke chapter eight. And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities. Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils and Joanna. The wife of Herod's steward and Susanna, and many others which ministered unto him of their substance. Now, before we talk about Mary, I just wanted to give a shout out to the other women that were mentioned in those verses that were also followers and disciples of Christ.

They didn't just follow, they ministered and they ministered unto him of their substance. To me, what this shows is these righteous women. Mary, Joanna, Susanna, that they show us [00:03:00] how to be good disciples. Because they had an action part in there. They weren't just following him around hoping to see a miracle.

They were ministering and I just thought that I needed to hear that, that it was good for me to know that it wasn't just a matter of, I wanna be a believer in Christ and a follower of Christ. I need to have some action to it. But today we're gonna focus on Mary Magdalene.

And Mary Magdalene is described as one out of whom Seven Devils came. President James E. Talmage, he clarified in Jesus the Christ that there is no scriptural basis for labeling her as an immoral woman.

The idea that she was a prostitute is a later Christian tradition. And not a biblical fact. As I was researching this, I learned that in scripture. Demonic possession often refers to severe suffering, mental or physical affliction, [00:04:00] spiritual bondage. And I also learned that the number seven in hebrew culture symbolizes completeness. So what this means, and whatever the situation was for Mary, she didn't have a mild cold or the worst sinus infection that she's ever had in her entire life.

Cydni: Not even a man cold,

Sher: She was completely overcome with some sort of suffering, whether it's mental. Physical or some type of spiritual bondage. She was completely consumed and overcome with it, and Christ completely healed her. I just think that is so hopeful. I get so much hope from this. It doesn't matter how broken you are, mentally, physically, spiritually, Christ can completely heal you, and that's what he did for Mary.

I love that it just touches my heart and I was thinking just on my own, which has nothing to do with the scriptures but just out of my own brain, I thought. If the seven [00:05:00] devils actually symbolize like seven problems or sins, she was actually not even close to being a sinner. She was a complete rock star if she only had messed up seven times, because Cydni and I would have about 5 billion trillion devils cast out of us.

Cydni: I like to call them personalities, but some might refer to them as devils. But the personality today is supposed to be reverent. That's why I'm folding my arms and bowing my head

Sher: and your head's spinning around in circles.

Cydni: I know this is causing me physical pain.

Sher: Look at you. Be reverent.

Cydni: I already thought of 10 things. I'm like, oh, that would, Nope. Don't say it. Don't say it, Cyd. But I have to say one. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm trying, God, I'm trying. But I did think when I said man cold, that our whole family has been sick and I did have one of my sons. Who also had a really bad cold. He said, for real, mom, be real with me. Is child labor worse than this? Man cold?

Sher: did you kick him?

Cydni: This is on record. I won't say what happened next,

Sher: [00:06:00] I do wanna say thank you to your family. Cydni and I have been getting each other sick for the last month.

Cydni: Think. Yeah, we're kind like that.

Sher: I appreciate it a

Cydni: lot. Yeah, no problem. We're here for you.

Sher: Thank your kids for bringing that home and giving it to you.

Cydni: I know. I think we pinpointed it on my daughter. But from church, so thanks church.

Sher: Right.

Cydni: We're there Trying.

Sher: Maybe that's where I got it too. Well now we know that.

Cydni: Do you remember that TV show? Seventh Heaven?

Sher: Yes, I remember it. Vaguely. I remember the name. Yeah,

Cydni: about the same. But I just had to bring that up because I've been studying seventh Heaven and it's a real thing and it means extreme happiness, bliss, ecstasy, and supreme joy. Now I'm bringing this up for a reason. When I first reread about Mary Magdalene and the Seven Devils in her. I thought about the different symbolism of seven as well, and I immediately thought of Naman, who we talked about last year, and we talked about how he had to go wash seven times and we [00:07:00] talked about this, that maybe every time he washed, he was surrendering a little bit more. He was softening just a little bit more and that he was accepting his Savior a little bit more.

So there's a lot of symbolism in seven. You've already gone over some and then I studied that. It's an ancient belief that there's seven layers of heaven, seven celestial layers, and I think this is really fascinating. One, because I love listening to people's near death experiences.

So often they talk about the different layers in heaven, and that is a belief we have is that there's different. Levels of heaven. And we can find this throughout history and in ancient history, and you can find it in Judaism and also in Hinduism. And as I was reading about it, I found this statement that said, in ancient views, these were not always after life Paradises over time, especially in Abrahamic faiths, they gain spiritual meanings, ascending layers of [00:08:00] closeness to the divine. So with that last part, that it's a ascending layers of closeness to the divine. If you think about Naiman, every time he washed, he became closer to the divine.

And we don't know exactly what Mary's situation was, but we can gather from the symbolic nature of seven and who she was, that whatever she was going through was helping her. With a closeness to the divine and to me, what I have gathered is that she did draw a closeness with our Divine Savior and I'm so disappointed in myself to say that I did know her as a prostitute, and that is from a Pope, Pope Gregory, he added that. I just wanted you to know I knew that history. Sher.

Sher: I didn't know that history. I just learned it from studying it as well.

Cydni: Yeah, it was Pope Gregory and it was under his watch that it was put in there. From my understanding, again, this is a string. If you feel drawn to the string, go pull it [00:09:00] on your own because there's so much information.

He kind of just put all of the Marys together. The Bible and he was like, ah, it's a woman. They're all named Mary. They're all the same. And he bunched them together and unfortunately that really does discount how important Mary Magdalene is.

But in 1969, the Catholic Church rejected this idea and they actually now have a feast day for her. And they took her from Pope Gregory's idea that she was a prostitute to now she's considered a saint. And the Feast of Saint Mary Magdalene is now celebrated on July 22nd every year.

Sher: I love the whole symbolism and using the number seven, that seven is a symbol of completeness. And then you take other religions that have the seventh heaven and it's these are my words, not. Necessarily factual, but each level, so to speak, is bringing you closer, to our Savior. And can you imagine what Mary had to go [00:10:00] through if she was in complete suffering, complete physical, spiritual, whatever it was,

it was consuming her. It completely had her. can you imagine what she needed to go through? For the Savior to heal her. That process of healing she had to have felt that inside of her and what that did to her, whoever she was before to where she was now, she never wanted to go back to that person that. Completely had her before, no matter what it was. She never wanted to do that again. She was on Team Christ and she wasn't going anywhere after this. She was 100% completely healed and changed. And she was a woman. Never going back, ever.

Cydni: That's beautiful. And when you were talking about that, I thought how we are supposed to forgive 70 times seven. that references a lot forever, always forgive. And so I do understand what you're saying on a personal level that I look back on [00:11:00] my own personal life, whether it's through a healing process of my own or just the process of which has sealed my heart to Christ, that it has been a trial.

I get through that trial and then the cycle takes me to another situation and it further seals my heart. And I love this idea that seven just means always a completion. And Mary is teaching us that whatever her situation was, she continually turns to the gospel to God to seal her heart to Christ, and she becomes a ferocious follower, and I decided I don't want to, when I think of Mary Magdalene, I never want to think of the artwork that's out there that's kind of scandalous of Mary Magdalene, or that she was a prostitute that repented because that is not who she was.

Sher: Even if it was who she was, that's not who she is. '

Cydni: Right. So even if that was what she was going through,

Sher: which our leaders say is not a biblical fact. I wanna point that out.

Cydni: But [00:12:00] there's stories of people who I mean, Saul to Paul, and so we're not judging, but what I am saying is that. her name to so many people is that, oh, she was a prostitute that changed and turned to be a follower of Jesus. She's so much more than this. When I look at the names that she is called, let me tell you some of them, she is known as Mary Magdalene, the apostle to the apostles. Because she was the one who told the apostles that Christ had risen. She is called a woman who was healed. A woman who was made whole, a witness to His death, a witness to the light woman who walked with Jesus.

Back to Mandy Green. She says the most underrated, critical figure in the world. She's very passionate. She pulled that string and she continues to pull that string. Another statement about her was she plays an amazing role in the restoration of the gospel. A supporter of his ministering a trailblazer, [00:13:00] the woman at the tomb.

And you know, one that just I think as best to not get emotional as possible. The one that speaks to me maybe the most out of even all of these is Mary. She was called Mary by Christ.

Sher: Why does that make us cry?

Cydni: I think because she is a holy, and reverent woman. I think that Mandy Green has it, right? That she is underrated. And I think that maybe there's a little bit of a string that was pulled for both of us, as we've studied to have a great reverence for an incredible woman.

The things that I'm learning about her. One is that her name is mentioned by name over 12 times. That is very uncommon for a woman that also mentioning by name signifies importance. Also when she's mentioned, she's mentioned first and people are mentioned by importance.

She's listed first over and over and over again. She is important also, what appears to be interesting about her is that she's an independent woman. Most of the time you would read, [00:14:00] marry the daughter of or marry the mother of that is not mentioned. She is not connected to a man.

She's not connected to a husband or a brother or a father. She is Mary. Magdalene that is significant for this time. And I also discovered that so many people when they talk about her name, her name comes from where she lived. But as I studied other people who have learned about her, specifically Mandy Green, who I'm just apparently a huge fan of now, but she has so much deep love for Mary Magdalene and I'm just so grateful for that because I do now too. She says, again, underrated. Her name means tower.

Her name signifies strength and anciently. You would build a tower right in the city. Center and the tower is where people would go for protection, for information, for supplies. The tower was important and she is a tower it just isn't Mary who lived here. It is Mary the [00:15:00] Tower.

She is a ferocious disciple follower of Christ, and she broke down the name. She speaks Greek and she reads. Biblical Greek, and she says that if you break down the name into sections, it means greatness and strength and a woman of great strength a tower. And that's so beautiful.

Sher: . Told me this a few days ago about her name, meaning tower, and honestly Cydni. I can't stop thinking about it. Not only does it mean all the things that you just said but she's like our lookout and when you think about it, she was the one who first saw Christ. I mean there was so much symbolism there and it's so beautiful. And this is what the early apostles, this is a. A woman that they put as a tower. I just wanna point out that sometimes women like to say that men don't appreciate us.

I don't think that's true. Mary is the tower. They are putting her as the lookout, as the strength, as like a defender. All of those things, [00:16:00] you know, right in the middle of town. Women are so important. They are the lookout. They're the lookout for societies, for their families. Women are so important and it's important that we take on that role and magnify it the way Daughters of God should and how God wants us to. Mary is an example of how a godly woman should act.

Cydni: I love you said that. One of the women I have listened to who has studied her life, there's several women out there who just have a deep love and passion for this kind of woman at this time. And I've heard the said a few times where after studying the life of Mary Magdalene. The women have a message that is said in different ways, and it's, do not write yourself out of this story. Pope Gregory wrote her out of the story and people everywhere try to write you out of the story, but there is a plea from these women who have studied the life of [00:17:00] Mary that say, do not write. Yourself out of the story because Christ loves you. He knows you and you are part of the story.

Sher: Absolutely., And Often throughout history, history tends to do this to faithful men and women. They're strong spiritually, and they're faithful, and they're solid towers and satan wants to find all the faults and the lies and the mistruths. . He wants those mistruths exaggerated so we can. Judge and ruin what the faith will have done. And I think this might have been what happened to Mary.

She's such a great example that Satan wants one person to change just a little bit and the next person to change a little bit more. And we've all played the telephone game. What happens after 2000 years? You get the worst. And that's all that's left. And that's what. Sadly happens in history way too often is you take these gigantic heroes and examples and because of maybe laziness or [00:18:00] on purpose or an evil design by Satan, which is probably where it's coming from, these men and women, it completely gets distorted.

Cydni: I think it's going back to the attack on your identity. I feel identities will be attacked in all directions. And this is another way. . If we fully had the examples and the knowledge of these women and how they lived and that they were not just quiet and reverent. But that they were bold, that they were bold disciples and bold followers of Christ from my understanding, from what I've read and learned, the town she lived in, there was a lot of conflict and it was a movement To follow Christ at that time, especially from that town, there was a lot of disruptive things going on, and she was someone who chose to be part of that movement.

She is not a weak person. And there's so little known about her. So it makes me [00:19:00] feel like, of course, Satan doesn't want us to know, he does not want us to actually get a good grasp on who we're capable of being like, because that would be very bad for his plan, and so I do think it's an attack on the identity of who we are. And I also think it's a protection because Mary of Magdalene, all of these amazing things and just my own personal experience to be told to be reverent, made me feel like God really loves her.

And I need to be very careful, not in a disciplinary feeling, but in an empowering feeling that this person that you're studying is a critical to me and I love her. And so if you're going to speak to her. Do it with the reverence and the respect she deserves. And that doesn't make me feel bad. That makes me feel love and love for her, and love for who I am.

And so maybe it's a protection and maybe it's a protection also that we don't know about [00:20:00] our Heavenly Mother for the same reason, which I've heard my whole life, that what if we don't know about Heavenly Mother because people wouldn't respect her Well. We know little about Mary of Magdalene and she is called a prostitute, so maybe that's actually true.

Sher: I agree 100% and, I love that you brought up that both of us have felt very inspired to be very reverent when speaking about Mary. I feel like just bringing her name up, I get tears in my eyes. I have tears in my eyes now because I feel the spirit so strong, talking about her.

And look at what people have done to Mary, what they have said about her. can you imagine what people would say about our Heavenly Mother and I think I understood this really well one day when I was just a little kid and I heard, I don't even remember which brother it was. One of my brothers said something really rude to my mother. And before my mom. Could even respond. My dad was just in the other room and he heard it [00:21:00] and my brother didn't know that my dad was anywhere nearby, and my dad suddenly appeared. And I remember seeing a look of sheer terror in my brother's face when he realized that my dad heard, and as soon as he saw my dad, he started to run and my dad chased him. And unfortunately for my brother, my dad caught him at the top of the stairs and he proceeded to kick his butt, and my brother tumbled all the way down to the bottom of the stairs and all my dad said was, don't you ever talk to your mother like that again. And my brother was left at the bottom of the stairs in a heap, and my dad walked away. He was so angry, and I just think that after seeing that moment as a child, I just realized that's why we don't know more about our Heavenly Mother, because I don't know if God could contain it. We'd all get zapped and electrocuted and we'd be done. If he has any close of the same temperament as my dad, he would not be here long.

Cydni: That's a perfect example. It's pretty much what Ben said too that he said, can you [00:22:00] imagine the destruction God would lay on the people? it would be more than just flooding, that if they act a fool and started talking to about His bride, it would be, over

Sher: It would be, it would be, see you later. But going back to Mary, once she was healed. She remained faithful and loyal. Back to Luke chapter eight, it says she followed him. She ministered unto him. She helped and supported his ministry. Margot Hovey, who by the way, Cydni, I learned is a pig herder. I don't know her, but I found out she was a pig herder, and I thought you two had a lot in common just with that.

Cydni: Yeah, she herded them and I just ran away from them forever. They herded me away from that small town.

Sher: Either way, you are very similar.

Cydni: Same thing.

Sher: So Margo said later, Mary was among several women who witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus, Matthew, mark and Luke say that the women watched from afar. But in the gospel of John, we learned that Mary Magdalene stood near the cross, along with Mary [00:23:00] the Savior's mother. Whether near or far. What's clear is that Mary felt compelled to be with the Savior . As he endured immense agony and suffering. Even in, and perhaps especially in this dark hour, her devotion to and love for the Savior were manifest.

She would remain his disciple to the end. Following the Savior's death, Mary's insistence to remain at his side continued. She was there among those at the tomb as his body was laid to rest, and the stone was rolled in front of the Sep slicker, even though Jewish Sabbath law dictated that she and the other disciples return home to rest, but even in the finality of a great heavy stone. Could not break Mary's devotion or keep her from her Lord. She returned to the tomb with other devoted women on Sunday morning. What I learned from this is Mary Magdalene was at the cross. She watched where the Savior was buried. She came early to the [00:24:00] tomb the next day. She stayed weeping when others left . And then because of her devotion and her true discipleship, she became the first witness of the risen Lord. Going back to Margot, she said, Mary, believing that the Savior's body had been taken, wept openly I just can you imagine how can one bad thing just keep happening?

We just keep going to the next horrible thing. Not only did she have to see the Savior suffer like that, but. She buried him and then she thought His body was stolen. Can this nightmare end?

Cydni: Along with that, I would say that it's important then to recognize that she came before sunrise, so she is not sleeping. She's thinking of him and that is the fourth watch, the hours that she went. so I do think it's important to recognize that she went before there was light. And so she's going in darkness, which just human to human. She's not sleeping, she's [00:25:00] grieving, and on her mind at 3, 4, 5 am is our Savior.

Sher: the devotion she's showing she was gonna stay there and she wanted to remain with our Savior. man, This woman is incredible. Let me start all over with what Margo said. Mary, believing that the Savior's body had been taken, wept openly behind her. The resurrected Savior asked women, why weep us thou today. Some think it's strange that when Jesus first spoke to her, he called her woman instead of by her name, even though he clearly knew her well from their long association.

But in Mary's time, woman as a form of address was a term of great respect. The Lord used this form of address on various occasions in speaking to different women, and it was always with concern, kindness, respect, and tenderness. Mary supposing him to be the gardener. , Asked where Christ's body had been taken.

Jesus. Then tenderly called her by name and Mary turned to [00:26:00] him recognizing him instantly and showing him great respect and return by saying, Rob, which is to say Master. After reading this and studying about her. It is. No wonder she was the first witness.

She was faithful and refused to leave his side while he was suffering in death and after death. She clearly had made a covenant to follow Jesus Christ and she meant it. And I think this is the devotion I need to have in my life. I made a commitment. I made a covenant, so I need to. Buck up buttercup and have that same faith in loyalty.

Cydni: I have been stuck on something about this though, and I just don't understand. This is just really honest. I have never quite understood how the people that knew him most intimately didn't recognize him when he came back. That's been a struggle for me, and I've spent a lot of time in prayer and pondering on this specific thing, before [00:27:00] even this lesson. But with this lesson coming up that keeps coming to my mind, how could people that.

He was around the most not recognize him. Is it because his body looks so different? I've heard it's because he was veiled. I spent time talking to my father-in-law about it before this episode. He's just a scripture scholar and always has great insight. And he was so simple with this one and he was like, well, you know, he could have had a cloak on that was very common to wear.

his face could have been veiled. And I just have not been satisfied with anything, to be honest. until recently, and then I did have the thought, as I have been studying Enoch as well, that Enoch was told to wash his eyes with Clay. But Enoch was never blind, but he was still told to do the same thing that blind men have been told to do in scriptures.

And it was to see spiritually. And I'm not there entirely. I'm pulling a string on this as well, but I did have this connection [00:28:00] that it is, when she hears him, say Mary, she recognizes him. And then I considered how much lately we have been talking about. Hear him and I thought maybe there's something going on here.

Maybe the strings attach to each other a little bit, that we need to be able to hear him because that might be the only way we will recognize him, and we need to have the spirit with us for these times, as we've been told so that we can hear him. And I am still piecing it together, but I feel like that is filling the most right with me so far.

Sher: I love that. Cydni. I think that you might be onto something with that string of yours.

Cydni: I'll keep pulling it and see. My father-in-law was like, you know, sometimes we don't have answers yet, but they will be revealed in time. And I said I don't like that text. Please send me a different one.

Sher: One of the things that I got stuck on as I was reading this was they kept using the word [00:29:00] loyal. I think this word jumped out at me so much because my greatest vice. And the probably the best thing about me is I am loyal to a fault. And at general conference last April, there was a talk called Faith, a Bond of trust and Loyalty, and this talk. Really did a number on me because it was something that I needed to hear because of that word loyalty his talk helped me understand faith better than probably any talk I have ever heard about Faith because it was right up my alley and to me. The talk was teaching me that faith is not just about hope in Christ. But it's showing my loyalty to Christ and as I've been studying this last year, I have been replacing the word faith or adding to it the word loyalty. Every time I read that word, when I study, and it has helped me immensely because sometimes I don't really understand that word faith because I don't know if I am [00:30:00] faithful enough and I don't know if I do have enough hope, but that word loyalty. I get it. And I wanna stay loyal to Christ. I get that one.

And this is also the reason Mary kept showing up. Would not leave Christ. She was loyal and she was a faithful woman and she stayed with, Christ, through good and the bad. you know the saying that's when you find out who your friends are, when everything's going down the crapper, the people that are there standing by you. Those are your friends. My goodness, Mary. Definitely a friend of Christ. She refused to leave him even as he was hanging on the cross and people were mocking him. And she stood there with Him. Unbelievable woman.

Going back to us wanting to relearn the basics this year, now, these are just a few I thought of. There's hundreds and these are just the first few that popped in my head. The basics that learning about Mary has taught me. Is this, that Christ can completely [00:31:00] heal us, that it's important to keep your covenants that we've made with Christ, she's an example of loyalty and faithfulness, and women are central to the resurrection story also that Christ calls us by name. as you said, president Nelson taught us to hear Him and Mary teaches us what we should do when we do hear him.

Cydni: Before we go into the challenge, I am going to share with you what is Read for The Feast of St. Mary Magdalene on July 22nd. Every year. It's from Song of Songs. The bride says, on my bed at night, I sought him, whom my heart loves. I sought him, but I did not find him. I will rise then and go about the city in the streets and crossings. I will seek him, whom my heart loves. I sought him, but I did not find him.

The watchman came upon me as they made the rounds of the city. Have you seen Him? Who my heart loves? I had hardly [00:32:00] left them when I found Him. Who my heart loves.

We challenge you to prepare for Easter in a way you have never done before. We challenge you to seek out Christ in a way you have never done before and hear him in a way you have never done before.

We challenge you to pull whatever string you felt prompted to and study on your own and pray on your own. There are so many beautiful gems here that if you open, you'll just feel the same treasure feeling that we have been so blessed to fill as we've prepared this episode.

Sher: This brings us to our final thoughts. Mary Magdalene was not defined by Seven Devils. She was defined by staying. She was healed, loyal, and strong. She became a disciple of Christ and a faithful witness. And on Easter morning, she was trusted with the greatest message in human history. He lives,

This is our prayer

Cydni: from Cydni and [00:33:00] Sher.

Could we just do a little bit of irreverence though? Sure.

Sher: That was a very heartwarming intro.

Cydni: Oh, thanks. I'm trying to be reverence. My face is red from trying to be reverence, like holding myself together.

Sher: It's true. It's bright red. She's gonna explode any second.

Cydni: Be reverent, be calm, and like my body's what is that language?

Sher: All right, Cydni. So as, why do I always do that? I don't know why. Okay.

Cydni: Do whatever you need to do.

Sher: I have to be grandma ish and put my glasses down on my nose.

Cydni: That's a good look.

Sher: Thanks.

Cydni: It's like very natural for you.

Sher: Why? It's 'cause I didn't need one. There's no reason to read that. You just need to go to two. That's why.

Cydni: Come on, Grammy. Ben distracted me and my brain distracted me 'cause I'm trying to be reverent. This one might have just been for us, but I sure appreciate it.

Sher: Thank [00:34:00] goodness I have a cold. No one can tell

Cydni: I suddenly have a cold too.

Sher: You didn't cry. Good job. I was biting my lip.

Cydni: I bit my cheek.

Sher: Thanks for joining us.

Cydni: We're so glad you're here.

Works Cited

Gregory I. Homilies on the Gospels.

The Holy Bible. King James Version, Luke 8:2. The Church of Jesus Christ of