From Spinning Wheels to Cannons, Women of the Revolution

They were told their brains were too small to make moral choices.  Then the Revolution happened, and women boycotted British goods, ran farms alone, dressed as men to fight, manned cannons after their husbands fell, and demanded an education in return for raising the next generation of patriots. This week Cydni takes the teaching reins for the first time ever and walks Sher through the incredible and largely forgotten history of women in the American Revolution. There may also be a tangent about lice, tar, and the world's first Molly Pitcher. This week's episode is "From Spinning Wheels to Cannons, Women of the Revolution" and we are so glad you are here!

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Episode 172 - From Spinning Wheels to Cannons, Women of the Revolution 

Cydni: [00:00:00] Sher, how long have you been a history teacher? 

Sher: 32 years. 

Cydni: That's why today is exciting. Today, I'm giving you a history lesson, and I have never been a history teacher, so this is not intimidating at all. Just kidding, it is. But then I thought, I remember when kids corrected teachers all the time, and it could be like that.

You could correct me. You could say, "Actually, that is not the truth." And then I will edit this time, and I'll edit out every time you say that. What do you think? 

Sher: Perfect. I love the plan, Cydni. 

Cydni: I am so happy you're here today, Sher, to learn from me. 

Sher: Me too, I think. 

Cydni: And I'm so happy everyone else is here. Welcome to the Cydni and Sher Podcast.

Sher: today we are going to talk about We the People. Those are the first three words in our Constitution, and Cydni and I wanted to learn more about the normal people that fought for our freedom 250 years ago. So for [00:01:00] the next two episodes, we wanna talk about them.

In D&C Section 101, it says, "According to the laws and Constitution of the people which I have suffered to be established and should be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh according to just and holy principles." That every man may act in doctrine and principle according to the moral agency which I have given unto him, that every man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment.

Today we are going to talk about normal people that used their agency to follow God so we could have our God-given rights of liberty. They made it possible for us to have freedom, and they aren't necessarily so famous. So today, as Cydni said, she is going to lead us and she's gonna be the teacher.

But before we start, I have to sincerely say, I have loved how much you've liked learning about this, Cydni. 

Cydni: Like is not the right word. I have loved it. I've ignored my children. [00:02:00] I'm like, "Mama's learning right now." And I had a flashback to when we first met because we've talked about this before. When we first started podcasting, we didn't know each other. 

Sher: True story. 

Cydni: Which is so odd that we did this. 

Sher: I know. 

Cydni: It wasn't like, "Hey, do you wanna go on a walk sometime?" Like, play cards or anything like normal friendships start. Ours was like- "

Sher: Do you want to podcast in my basement?" That sounds kinda creepy when you put it that way.

Cydni: Just adding some, sparkle to the story. And I had a flashback while I was learning and loving it so much. I remembered, standing with Ben and you, and you said how much you love American history. And I made a cringe face like, "Ugh." "I don't know that I do."

And you, Sher, said, "I will change that." And I told Ben later, "There's no way. I love World War II history. I don't love American history." And I had this flashback, and I [00:03:00] realized you did do that. 

Sher: I won. 

Cydni: You won. I love American history. 

Sher: Yay. 

Cydni: my 2023 self would not believe how I feel now, so thank you. 

Sher: That makes me so happy. But I have loved all the texts you keep sending me of things that you've learned, and you're very excited, and it makes me so happy. So I am ready for you to be the teacher, Cydni. Bring it on.

Cydni: I'm excited to teach history because one thing about me is I don't really mind too much if it's not entirely true- ... which is how most historians feel. 

Sher: You're not wrong. 

Cydni: I get to interpret this however I want. And chances are people won't go look up the actual facts, and so I could say whatever I want. I feel so powerful. 

Sher: Now you know what it's like to teach middle school. You can say whatever you want, and they believe you. 

Cydni: I wanna be a history teacher now. I could shape the world- ...

here's what I wanna start with I wanna start with the history of women at this time Women, they didn't have big brains.

Oh, no. They had tiny [00:04:00] brains. They actually believed women had smaller brains. They thought women, their brains were not capable of even making moral choices. They didn't believe women could choose good from evil. They didn't have the capacity to understand , and it stems from Eve. Because Eve took a bite of the apple, she clearly had a smaller brain, and therefore, she wasn't capable of making a good choice, and that genetic has been passed down to all of us women.

Sher: So far, all you're doing is making me angry, Cydni. That's what's happening right now. 

Cydni: Great- ... 'cause I wanted to bring that energy into this. And at this time, women also, they had no rights. And because they were so weak-minded, the best thing they could do was get married. This actually helped me understand why women did get married so young, because that was their life mission, and if you accomplish your life mission at 12, good for you. You're done. You could die at 30, but you've lived a good life [00:05:00] because you've been married so long already.

They had no political rights. They couldn't own land, they couldn't sell land, they couldn't pass down their land, the husband he controlled everything because he had to. He had to help this unfortunate female with a small brain. 

Sher: I thought you were gonna start singing Poor Unfortunate Soul for a hot second. 

Cydni: I thought about it, so- I thought you were in the brain- ... you were in the right vibe. 

Sher: But I do wanna say, it also depended on the colony, 'cause women did have more rights depending on the colony.

Cydni: I'm painting the picture here. 

Sher: Okay, sorry. Keep going. 

Cydni: Well, what I wanted to get to is that something I read several times, so not just one person said this. If a slave ran away, the poster, the flyer, would say, "Runaway," and then the information. But do you know what it would say if a wife ran away from terrible situation,

Sher: nothing? 

Cydni: Looking for a second wife. Looking for 14 and under women to apply- ... for the next role of [00:06:00] wife. No, it would say that a woman took possession of her body and left. She did not have even a right to her body. 

Sher: Okay, I'm gonna go back to all you're doing right now is making me angry, Cydni.

Cydni: I have to do this because history is storytelling- ... and I have to create this picture to illustrate the bull crap that existed. That's how I feel, because it's just actually insane to read about how the men saw the women, and I did not understand that they didn't really even raise their children.

They only could teach their daughters how to continue on with what they were capable of doing, which was spinning clothes, cooking, and producing children. That's what their role was. They were not in charge of teaching or socializing the young men. They were only in charge of producing them, and it's because they couldn't make moral choices.

And so the men had to step up and socialize and educate the young men who would then take ownership of future [00:07:00] women. 

Sher: Okay, so far I'm not really loving this podcast. 

Cydni: I should have been a history teacher. I do wanna say a lot of my information came from Professor Carol Berkin. Are you familiar with her? 

Sher: Nope. 

Cydni: I love her. I love her so much. She is sassy and fun- and she teaches so well. So a lot of my information comes from her, which means if it's wrong, Carol is wrong.

Also, you know what's crazy, is finding some of these women was so difficult, even finding her. I looked up Berkin, and it showed me a purse. Which will be here by Friday, so.

But I'm not weak-minded. so I'm bringing her passion and her snark to this, because this is how she talked about it, and it was very funny. And it just made it look like such a ridiculous situation, so I really loved her.

Not as much as your teaching, but she gets second place. 

Sher: Thanks. 

Cydni: But now we're gonna move on to the women of the revolution and how things changed. So that's what we're working with, that's what it looked like. And things will [00:08:00] change,

which will make this story like a happy Disney ending. but Women are going to prove themselves in this revolution. They're gonna prove themselves by boycotting British goods.

They're going to, write propaganda. Mercy Otis Warren. They signed petitions. They fought. They spied. They proved to be courageous. They disguised themselves, and they kept farms going. 

Sher: You go, girl. 

Cydni: Yes, these women did go. And we need to know about this. I have found myself wondering over and over, why have I never been taught any of this?

I asked my brothers if they learned about any of these stories. They had never. Why don't we learn about these things? I think it's because if we learned about it, we would love it. 

Sher: I agree. That is exactly the reason why. When you start reading about history and you start learning about the real people, taking the propaganda out from both sides, the stories are so good. They're just great stories. 

Cydni: They're incredible, to show people's [00:09:00] courageous acts and What I loved about this professor is she did a really great job illustrating both sides of the story, and I really appreciated that. She does talk about women's freedom during this was two-sided.

There are the American women who were fighting for independence and freedom and were passionate about it, and there were some Indian women who it looked different for them. I think it's really important that we understand there are two sides, 

Sher: I agree with that, oftentimes the slaves that were fighting with the British, and the Native Americans that were fighting with the British, the British would use the slaves and the Native Americans to go in the front to break the lines. So they ended up being used as fodder. Another thing to keep in mind is that there were slaves and Native Americans that also fought on the American side. So keep that in mind as well, is that this literally did split everybody. , Race, gender, it didn't matter. Everyone was on both [00:10:00] sides, and a lot of people knew each other and were related. Like we talked about a few weeks ago, how Benjamin Franklin's own son was a governor of New Jersey and stayed loyal to the British. So families were split as well. 

Cydni: Yes that was one point she made over and over, is that this was neighbors fighting against neighbors. This was families fighting against families. There were spies who were slaves, but they wanted to go and serve, and they would sneak and act like they were trying to find freedom and join the other side to get information.

And so I love how you said that too, because it is completely split when we talk about women boycotting British goods, I thought the story was so funny because the British had introduced cloth, and the women were so happy because above all things they hated, they hated spinning. And when cloth was there, the spinning machines were put away in the attics, never to be looked at again- because they hated them. from what I've read or learned about in speeches, hate is not a strong enough word- ... to illustrate how they [00:11:00] felt about spinning. But they hated the situation more. And so boycotts started, and the women came together and said, "We cannot support British companies. We have to stop this." They got canceled. British cloth got canceled. 

Sher: Have some of that British cloth. 

Cydni: And so these women all got together with their daughters, and they pulled the spinning machines out, and they would sit on the lawns of British officers, and they would spin their own clothes, which I just love that fact. That's hilarious. It's so funny. 

Sher: That's great. 

Cydni: And they had the best time. They chatted, they were loud and rambunctious, and they made their own stuff, and they called it Liberty Cloth. That's so good. And they wore it proudly. 

Sher: , They did the same thing with coffee. When the boycott started with tea, the British said, "Oh, the American women will never be able to give up their precious tea. They won't have enough willpower." And let me tell you, American women dumped all of it.

They had burn parties. They took all of their [00:12:00] tea out of the house, and they burned it. And that is when Americans started drinking more coffee and not so much tea. So we now have coffee breaks, and we don't have tea time like the British. 

Cydni: That's where that comes from, huh?

Mm-hmm. 

Sher: Yeah. Okay. I don't know if the coffee breaks does, but- No, it does ... yeah, okay, it does. 

Cydni: In this history lesson, it does. That is exactly what happened. They also boycotted chocolate, which I found to be, the next level of discipline. I don't even comprehend. 

Sher: Going above and beyond. 

Cydni: I was trying to think what would be the hardest thing for me to boycott I was thinking caffeine would probably be the hardest one for me to boycott.

I don't even wanna think about it. I don't wanna put that out there in the universe. There they were boycotting all these things. I'm like, "Don't ask me to boycott- ... caffeine. Heaven help me." Okay. Everything would slowly change over time.

One of the best examples is farm letters that were written. There was a man from Massachusetts, and he is a loyalist, and he goes to England. And his wife, this is when women had [00:13:00] to do duties that they had never done before, maintain farms is one of them. And so she was left with the children to maintain the farm.

And the letters he writes are very detailed of basically, "When you're on my farm, open the front door." "Step outside. Head to the north. That's your left." Like that. Very specific of how to help this poor small-brained female take care of his farm. The first six months she replies, "Honey, I love you. Your farm is doing well. Your farm is looking great. Things will be fine, dear." The next six months she changes the pronouns. She says, "Dear, our farm is doing well." "Don't worry, things are being taken care of." A year later, can you guess what it says? 

Sher: Oh, please say that she said, "My farm," please. 

Cydni: My farm's doing fine." Things were changing. This is one of my favorite illustrations of [00:14:00] how things started to change. I think it's pretty clear her farm did well. He had her farm to come home to after the war, which is really nice.

Now, a lot of women actually joined the men at the camps, and they did this mostly because they were poor and they didn't have a place to go. So if they did not have a farm to run, they would become camp followers.

Camp followers were families, sweethearts, young daughters who had nowhere else to go, so they would join the camps, and it was a horrible last resort. Unless you were a captain's wife or someone with some wealth.

If that was the case, like Lucy Knox, she loved going. She loved it so much She said she had to be there, otherwise she would be barren with adventure and replete with repetition. So for her and her friends, they would host parties. The soldiers served them. They had their private quarters. But everyone else they were put to work, and this is another situation where it's not a [00:15:00] great situation, because they only got half of a ration, even though they worked all day, George Washington has said that he did not want them there. He wanted them to be gone. And it makes sense. It would be a burden, and then you also are using your rations that could be used for the men.

And so he did put them to work, so this is where things change again. They became a vital part of the American army. They gathered wood for food, they cooked the food, they did the nursing, and they did the laundry. The laundry is now among some professors to say was a most critical part of the war.

If the laundry wasn't done, and this is helping me not hate laundry so bad- ... because they said if it wasn't done, the outcome could've been different, and that doesn't make sense unless you know why. The reason's lice. 

Oh. 

These young men, who had never done laundry before, were not washing their clothes, and they started to get incredibly dirty and started to get lice. They thought, because they were young teenagers, the best way to get rid of the lice [00:16:00] was to get tar and flick it on each other to try to kill the lice. It was a game. 

Sher: Gross. 

Cydni: Professor Carol Berkin said it was like the PlayStation of their time. And so when the generals would come and say, "How many men do you have to serve?" They would have very low numbers because the young boys were covered in scars and scratches and had hurt themselves with lice and tar and burns.

So they needed to change this. This is where the women were asked, "Hey, could you wash these clothes?" And because of that, they were in better health and better condition to go fight and die there instead of the lice. 

And speaking of Lucy Knox, I just wanted to read one of her letters. One reason why she really didn't want to go home is because it was so lonely. And she wrote, "I returned home to find myself entirely alone, to reflect that the only friend I have in this world is such an immense distance from me.

My heart is ready to burst." And I think that's an important part of this to understand that [00:17:00] families really were separated, and that's why she had to go party at the camps- ... and she did.

Now we're gonna talk about Molly Pitcher. Some people believe Molly Pitcher is a single person, but it's not. Molly Pitcher is a term that was used for women on camp who helped with the cannons, and there's a famous Molly Pitcher there's a picture of a woman who's standing by a cannon. That is Mary Ludwig, she was a camp follower, and she's a famous Molly Pitcher.

So how the Molly Pitchers worked is when the cannons got too hot, the men would yell out, "Molly Pitcher," and that meant some woman better run out with a pitcher of water and dump it on the cannon. A lot of women died doing this. They were running through an open field, or in a lot of cases, the husband that they were helping, 'cause they were there with their husband, would die. And Molly Pitchers took over the cannons, which [00:18:00] to me is incredibly heroic. 

Sher: I think so too, and I love that picture that you're talking about. One of the things that my students love to do is I didn't use the textbooks a lot, but on occasion, I would just have 'em open the textbook, and we'd just look at the pictures in there.

And that's one of the pictures that always captivated my students, was the one of Molly Pitcher standing by the cannon. I believe, if I'm correct, it shows her husband, fallen injured next to her, and she's manning the cannon. My students always love that photo because she just looks tough and determined that she was gonna get this done, and she was going after the British like no other, 'cause they just injured her husband.

Cydni: I think that's really important to point out because when I read about these stories, I think these women are in a situation they do not want to be in. They just lost their spouse, and oftentimes they don't die right away. They're sitting there wounded, in pain, in misery. To not first just go and comfort, which is what I [00:19:00] think you would want to do, but to take his place, to me is incredibly honorable. 

Sher: I agree. 

Cydni: A lot of these women are never recognized, not named. if they survived they were not given any pensions or anything for their service

But legend says that George Washington did witness our famous Mary Ludwig in her bravery, and that he personally thanked her, and he gave her a rank of sergeant Molly. And she is, I believe, one of the only to receive any pension and she receives $40 a year for her wartime service.

Sher: Oh, she's rolling in money there. 

Cydni: I know. That paid off. So there was many Molly Pitchers, and there were also many women who chose to dress as men and join as fighters. They fought in the war as men, and nobody knows how many there were because it was not honorable. Whereas we look at it now, and we think these brave, amazing, courageous women who went and [00:20:00] did this, that is not how it was seen.

If they were caught, it was a very harsh consequence, unless they said, "I'm so sorry I did this. I just couldn't be away from my man. I love him so deeply." If they said that, if they said they did it for love, they got a slap on the wrist and sent home. If they said they did it because they love freedom, and they wanted the pay, and they love to kill anything like that, it was a really bad situation.

At that point, they would be stripped down to their waist. They'd be tied up. They would be lashed, and they'd be marched out to a song that they titled The Whore Song

Sher: And this is what I think that a lot of Americans don't realize, is that we look at the American Revolution as being kind of like a nice little war that we won, and it was kinda easy-peasy. It was not. There were real consequences if you were caught, and there were real consequences for these women if they were caught, none of which were good options.

Cydni: No, and even if they're not caught, it doesn't feel [00:21:00] like there's good options either. they have to hide in shame. They shame their families, as we will learn about with spies. It's a similar situation. It's not noble. It wasn't brave. It was shameful, and you brought shame upon your family, and you're marched out of the camp as a whore for fighting it doesn't seem like the thing to do, but as we learn about Deborah Samson, she knows that it's not an ideal situation, but she says that it is a better option than any other future she could have because she'd get paid, so she dressed up as a man named Robert Shurtliff

 she served for over three and a half years, and she was even wounded, but she didn't wanna get caught as a woman, so she took care of the wound herself. But I don't know why I think this is funny. It's not funny she got caught eventually, but it's funny that it wasn't a wound that gave it away. It was a fever. She was so good at acting like a man that a man flu pulled her down. Do you see what I'm saying? 

Sher: I see what you're saying. 

Cydni: Yeah, it was a man cold. [00:22:00] She's that good- ... she deserves a prize for that. 

Sher: She does. Way to go.

Cydni: But it gives her away, but the men teased her for not being able to grow a beard which is also funny 'cause she was probably like, "You guys are obviously the ones with the smaller brain. I'm a woman. Like, come on, now." And so, they called her Molly.

Now, I'm wondering, now that I've learned about the Molly Pitchers, maybe they knew. I think they knew. Don't you think? 

Sher: Yeah, maybe, and they just- 

Cydni: Respected her. That's my gut feeling. My gut feeling is that they knew Deborah was Deborah, not Robert, and I think they really respected her 'cause she really pulled her weight.

And I think she didn't get caught because people protected her identity is my gut feeling. Could be wrong. It's just me teaching a history class is all. 

Sher: Yeah, you can say whatever you want. 

Cydni: It just feels right to me. And the other reason I feel that way is that when she does get caught by a doctor she leaves honorably. And that makes me feel like people had her back. 

Sher: I think that's a good observation. 

Cydni: Thank you. Now, what I love about her after [00:23:00] she worked more than five years, Okay, so somewhere it said three and a half years, somewhere it said five, so let's just say five. Let's give her the max that is out there.

It's written in her biography, that one day she said, "You know what? Spring's in the air and birds are singing." And you know what she did? She went back home, and she put on a bonnet and got married and had five kids. She did it all. 

Sher: She lived a full life. 

Cydni: Yeah, she did what she wanted.

Sher, there's... I know you already know this, but there's so many amazing stories, and I want to go over all of them, but that would be five hours of me talking, and that is not how this history lesson's going today. But I did want to say that there also was a group of women that I think is worth mentioning, Mrs. David Wright's Guard. It's a group that was put together by Prudence Cummings Wright, a group of 30 to 40 women who were in an all-female militia, she was 35 when she did this. They dressed in men's clothing, and they armed themselves with pitchforks and rifles, and they walked over the Nashua River. They captured loyalists, [00:24:00] including her brother.

And I felt like that was, like, deep-rooted feelings, honestly. And they captured a spy, but they worked together. I just imagine s- that there's these women that are spinning in some yards, and then there's women with their pitchforks. They're just everywhere. Their brains are growing. 

Sher: How dare they? 

Cydni: I just loved that, that there was a group that- I do 

Sher: too. I haven't heard that. That's awesome. I love that one. 

Cydni: I know. I wish there was more information. Now, they do say there were several groups, but this one group had the most information.

But there were women who came together in groups, dressed as men, and just caused chaos- ... for these British soldiers. Now, I wanted to talk a little bit about what happens afterwards.

Immediately after, things didn't really change that much. People had to go back and rebuild, and everyone was really desperate for normalcy, which we all know doesn't exist, ever. And the women didn't really have time to fight for these rights and get things changed and reform immediately.

They had to get back, rebuild. [00:25:00] They wanted to be with their families, and they wanted to see their men if they were alive. They wanted to get back to some kind of peace.

But things did change. There was a very important change that takes place, and the change is that everyone realized that the only way to continue the freedom that they had won is if their children knew about what had happened and why it happened.

They needed someone to teach children to be patriots. They called the women as a civil calling, " Women, will you step up and teach our sons to be patriots?" While the women loved the country, and they loved their freedom, and a lot of them had fought hard and learned a lot, so yes, they did want to do this, but they had some conditions.

They said, " If you're asking us to teach these children, then you need to teach us. We need education." And this is what is the biggest change for women in the revolution, the [00:26:00] aftermath that's positive, is education.

They called on the women to teach them to love, respect, and appreciate the country, and now they were assumed because of all that they had done, the courage and the sacrifice, and they now assumed that they were capable of rational thought . This movement is called Republican Motherhood.

It acknowledged women's intelligence and ability to make political commitments. A lot of these words are going to be from Professor Birken of how she said it. She said women agreed, but the condition is that they needed to be educated in order to teach.

They demanded legal rights and a political voice. We will raise our sons to be patriots, but we must be educated. They wanted to know the history, they wanted to know political philosophy, and they wanted to know science. And as a result, there was a revolutionary change, and young women's academies arose in every single state.

For the first time, young women [00:27:00] received a formal education. And something she talked about 'cause she's a professor, just as there's many lazy teachers today in our world, it was positive that there were many lazy teachers back then. Why was it positive? Because they didn't rewrite curriculum.

They didn't want to make it or simplify it for the ladies. They gave the same curriculum the men, the boys had, to the women, to the girls. That is a positive. They didn't dumb it down. They gave them the highest level that the boys were receiving

And then she said that if some of the Founding Fathers were to find out that just one generation later that women were gathering to demand their rights, they would roll over in their graves. And I think this quote sums it up best from a British soldier leaving New York. He's heard to say, "Even if the king's soldiers had defeated America's men, they could have never conquered American women."

Sher: Whoop-whoop. '

Cydni: Cause our brains are massive. 

Sher: That's right.

Cydni: So let me wrap this up. Sher, I thought of you because [00:28:00] I thought, look at all of these women who did so much to get us where we are, and then the call was, "Women, will you teach the youth so that they will love America?" You do that, and you've done that for me. 

Sher: That's so nice of you.

Cydni: I know. I'm being so kind right now. I 

Sher: know. I don't know what to do with it. 

Cydni: I never thought I would love American history the way that I am falling in love with it now. 

Sher: Yay. It makes me so happy. 

Cydni: And I just feel like now the Founding Fathers are rolling back over the other way in a positive way because there are men and women out there who are teaching, who do love American history, and who love history, and thank you for instilling that in me.

Our challenge is for you to actively, on your own, research a woman from the Revolution so that you can feel that spark and that love that Sher instills in all of us on your own. Amen. 

Sher: That was really nice of you, Cydni. 

Cydni: Well, you have a big brain. I feel like you would've been one of these women. I was trying to decide, do I think you would be out there doing something like a spy? But I was [00:29:00] thinking no way, you'd have a militia. 

Sher: Yeah, I'm not a very good liar. I would get caught in two seconds. 

Cydni: That's why I pictured the pitchfork and the rifle, and you get together friends and- destroy stuff. 

Sher: That is kinda more up my alley. I think so. This brings us to our final thoughts. Today, we talked about some of the incredible women that made it possible to have the Constitution that we have today. Abigail Adams wrote to her husband, John Adams, and said, "I desire you would remember the ladies, and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors.

Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the husbands. Remember, all men would be tyrants if they could. If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation."

This just backs up what Cydni was saying. The women, they helped fight to win our freedom, so that we could have our God-given gift of agency. This is our prayer- 

Cydni: From [00:30:00] Cydni and Sher ... 

 Because Disney endings have a lot of people die. And so this works. This is a Disney show now. Parents will die, and someone will be a princess or someone will get a purse. Mary Ludwig. Ludwig? Is that how you say it? Yeah, I think so. Mary Ludw- I, maybe I'm saying it wrong and her spirit's trying to fix 

Sher: she's manning the cabi- the... Why do I keep saying cabin? 

Cydni: If I don't talk too much, then it will be easier to edit- ... I swear. ba- bum. a British, a British sh- s- sorry, a British, British soldier. 

Sher: Thanks for joining us. 

Cydni: We're so glad you're here.