2026 Mock Draft #2 - Ep. 152

Bobby, Justin, and Ryan discuss the most recent NFL news, and Bobby gives his take on the new Vikings GM. Weston joins the group for a Fantasy Football Mock Draft.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

All right, welcome back to another episode of the Purple Green Show. I'm Bobby here with Justin and Ryan. Bobby, you back? Back back in black.

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Yep. And he is wearing black.

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Oh boy. There we go. Let's get excited.

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Bobby, we will let you just start it off with Vikings poetically.

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A lot of it. First things first, the Vikings made the biggest change throughout their entire offseason, with maybe the uh just an exception to the NFL draft. They hired a general manager, and it was not Rob.

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We did talk about that part.

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Yeah, not Rob. But Rob's still with the Vikings, which was actually my big concern. So a little background, real quick. The Vikings general manager or interim general manager was Rob Brasdinkis. Or Brzezinski is his actual name, Brzezinski, but whatever. Neither here nor there. He has Rob B. Robbie B. Robbie B. He has been with the franchise since like 2005. 2004. He's been with the team for a long time. He has been known as like the cap guy for the Vikings. So financially, he makes sure everything works from a money standpoint. He has been with the franchise obviously a very long time, if he's been there since 2004, 2005. So he get gets promoted during the transition of firing quest, see Adolfamensa to the interim general manager, and he has the authority to make roster decisions like draft players for the draft, which was kind of crazy that they let him hold the reins. He also is a heck candidate to become the general manager full-time. It seemed to me at this time that if you're gonna promote from within for an actual draft, that guy would be pretty locked into, you know, possibly becoming the full-time general manager, especially since he's been with the organization, since the owners have owned the team their entire life. Maybe. Um, but that's not what happened. The Vikings decided to go out and they hired Nolan Teasley or uh Tisley, who was the um Don't tease me, assistant general manager for the Seattle Seahawks. Don't you do that for all the people that are laughing out there that after we gave them Sam Darnold and they win a Super Bowl, now we got their assistant GM, I'm on board with that. That's pretty funny. It is in a self-deprecating Minnesota fighting. Okay, I was like um so he's actually now uh the general manager, Rob B is actually going to stay with the team, which is very exciting to me that he's gonna hold on to kind of his business, you know, um operations type of role that's what the Vikings do a lot of success. He does a very good job with the super, I mean, with the cap, he has field a lot of very competitive teams. I'm just messing with you. Um but Nolan comes in. Um like Nolan is instrumental in known for facilitating the Russell Wilson trade out of Seattle. Yep. Which uh brought in um they, I mean, they got a most of their most of their Super Bowl defense this year.

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Yes.

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So he did a really, really good job with that, which kind of elevated him into this type of uh conversation, and so he got the job. Very interesting. There was like four finalists for the job, and all four of them had ties to either Kevin O'Connell or to the actual ownership group, or ties to the Vikings and as a whole. No one's the only one who didn't, and he's the guy who got the job. So uh it speaks volumes about him. Uh obviously, they feel like he's a good fit and he's gonna be the right guy for it. He also brought in some other veteran, either GMs um into the organization as well. So we'll see how that goes. But he obviously being a first-time uh GM now, full-time GM, he's got some experience with him.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

So, how do you feel about it?

SPEAKER_02 3:35

Dude, anybody can draft better than Quesy Do Famenza, and I feel like a lot of the free agency like pushes were done by Brian Flores already as your defensive coordinator. Yeah, so I mean Quesi was a very analytics guy. This guy's analytics too, but um I he's got some other people around him too. It's hard. I think it's really hard to pin everything on the general manager, but the buck stops with the general manager. I think a lot of it has to be the team that you bring into.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

Let's be honest, he got fired because he was the one that said, no, we're letting Sam Darnold go. We want to enroll with JJ.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

Correct. So he was the one who invested in JJ as a first-round draft pick. He was also the one who then pushed for Sam Darnold not to be invested by the Vikings. So to let him go in free agency, he goes and signs with Seattle, he goes and wins the Super Bowl, and JJ McCarthy has an up and down season, and mainly down in his second season because he was hurt his entire first. That decision in itself loses your job. There's no way around it, and that's why he got fired. Um, we'll see what Nolan does. Um can't be worse than what we had, kind of is where I'm at.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

So you just kind of wait and see.

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Wait and see. I mean, I mean, you never know, right? I mean, he's not gonna have his first draft until obviously next year. So at this point, free agency's like the bulk of free agency was done. Um, and same with the draft. So, I mean, the impact moves that he could make are pretty minimal at this point.

SPEAKER_03 4:56

Cuts and re-signings, right? I mean, I assume he has resignings and then there's he has some say in the roster, right? To start the year.

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There'll be the roster, yeah. The 53-man roster, he'll have a say in that.

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Correct.

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So that will be that will be his big blueprint, will be or uh fingerprint, not blueprint.

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Yeah.

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Um, for him. And then after that, in my mind, is you know, I don't know. There's there's in-season pickups. Um, the Packers have had a few over the last six years that have been massive, massive booms to the team. Um I'm thinking of the corner. Um, why am I blanking on his name? Joneson? No, he was not a midseason pickup. He was a free agency. He was a free agency. Oh, I'm talking midseason. He would have he was on the Cardinals practice squad. Um, and then they traded him to the Bills. Why am I blanking on his name?

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I you you got me lost here on this one.

SPEAKER_04 5:42

Uh I'll I'll remember when you say it. I'm sure you will. I'll I'll I'll look it up. Go ahead, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Um, I was just gonna transition to I mean so how much how much power do you think he'll have, Bobby?

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Do you think he'll hear it? Does he have does he have total control currently?

SPEAKER_02 5:58

Yeah, he does have final roster control, but what was very interesting was right when he got hired, there uh Mark Wilf, which is Ziggy Wolf and Mark Wilf are probably the predominant faces of the armor shoeship group for the Minnesota Vikings. Um, Mark came out and goes, yeah, it's really gonna be um kind of like uh there's Rob from the business side, Kevin O'Connell as the coach, and Nolan, and it's this triangle of working together to make decisions best for the football team. But then that left a whole lot of questions about okay, well, who has final roster say? Because that's really what the general manager is kind of. Are they actually are they actually splitting the they did clarify the ownership group did clarify and says yes, Nolan does have full uh say of the roster, but at the same time, it would be very stupid for any general manager if you even think of the Rick Spielman, Mike Zimmer situation, to not communicate with your head coach if you're making certain moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that's what they're trying to get at. New bosses like making changes. I think also it is very beneficial to talk to your cap guy um to make sure you got the money to make the moves you want to do. So I none of that, I mean, I think that's kind of what they meant when they first came out, but then it was nice to see them come out and clarify that yes, no one has full roster authority, um, which is good. That's what you want as a general manager. You don't want to have three people with their hands in what can and can't happen.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

But the Vikings have done that before, right? I think you mentioned that, Justin, a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Yeah, so that's that was part of what caused a whole lot of issues between Rick Spielman, Mike Zimmer, and Rob. Funny enough, Rob was in there too.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

We talked about it because you told me about it.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

So they did have this kind of full circle, this kind of pyramid like system before, where it still had it. Rick Spielman did have full roster control, but he was supposed to work.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

The Vikings are a pyramid scheme, is what I'm hearing.

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A little bit.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how I don't know how they don't win more with their scheming.

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Making a shape.

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But uh we'll see. We'll see.

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The player I was thinking of was Rasul Douglas.

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Uh yes.

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And then uh Devante, Devontae Campbell.

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Oh, yeah.

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Both of those guys were mid-season pickups by the Packers that were actually turned out to be very good pickups for at least a year or two.

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Yeah, we'll see what ends up happening. Um, yeah, I mean, I could see him possibly add maybe a veteran ed rush that is available after moving on.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

I'm waiting for the Packers. I've heard a lot of rumors lately about them adding Clowney. Oh to Davey and Clowney.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

I've heard the Vikings are somewhat interested in Cameron Jordan.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

So Well, he's he's already signed. He signed last week with the Saints. We talked about it last week. No, I didn't miss that one. Yeah, he re-signed with the Saints. Yeah. Big money, too, right? Well, I don't know if it's big money. That's not gonna happen. Felt like big money. I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

I heard Zedarius Smith is coming out of retirement again.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

You can have him.

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I don't want him. We've had him already once before.

SPEAKER_04 8:51

Well, let's see, he'll probably go to the Bears. That's the only team in the NFC North he hasn't been on yet.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

So otherwise, I mean, for the Vikings, uh, this is also one of those times in the offseason where less news is good news. You you have your mandatory workouts that have been happening, the mini camps, which has been good. Um, really, the big news that's coming out of there is the quarterback battle between Murray and uh JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_04 9:16

Do you think it's a battle? Who do you want to start week one?

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I want the best quarterback to start week two.

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And who is that?

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I don't know.

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Come on, Bobby.

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Opinions. I want an opinion. Yeah, what's the hot take now?

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I would tell you that it's a slippery slope.

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Yeah, where should they trade JJ to?

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You know, and I'm not sure. No one saw some big things.

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Going to Arizona.

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Yeah, no, there was someone. No, there was somewhere else that apparently I saw I was interested in him.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

I think it's Pittsburgh, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 9:45

It was Pittsburgh, yes. That would make sense. It was Pittsburgh, but I was like, they have so many like third-round quarterbacks already. Yeah, why? I saw Arizona today, was the one I saw.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

If Kyler's that much better than than JJ, then you need to go with Kyler. You I really want whoever's going to be able to effectively get the football to JJ and to Addison.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

Well, Justin Jefferson's already come out and said Kyler's much better at leading, and you know. Well, that's important.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Um, I don't know if he said he's he didn't say that he's much better, did he? He just said he that he's good at it.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

He made compliments that he's never said about JJ Martin.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

He's really good at putting the ball where a receiver can really do something with it. Yeah. Which very much implies that JJ cannot. He didn't explicitly say that, but when you explicitly say, well, wow, Kyler's really good at this.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

You know, it here's the deal. JJ's like 22.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

We could both have a very good like mashed potato recipe. Like, that doesn't take away from yours, you know. Like I said, JJ's. If someone says that mine's good.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

JJ's 22 gonna be 23. Kyler is 28, right? So you have got a little bit of a difference. Break out the casket. Um, but at the same time, JJ has shown promise and and he's learned to put a little bit more touch on the football and and you know, do things like that apparently. In OTAs.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Um let's see when he's got pressure in his face.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Yeah, in all seriousness, I saw camp is going to be the determining factor just because right now Kyler Murray has not looked awesome in terms of he's gotten just destroyed by Brian Flores' defense. Well, he's throwing a lot of interceptions, apparently.

SPEAKER_04 11:22

He hasn't had the reps either, though. Yeah, right. Correct. Well then it's it's it's known for being a complex defense.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yeah, Brian Flores' defense is also tough.

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So I would say I would if I'm the Vikings and if I'm a Vikings fan, I want Kyler to start the the beginning the year. You feel alright, Kyle? There's a reason for this. Yeah, why?

SPEAKER_03 11:42

If you were a Viking and a Vikings fan, I know.

SPEAKER_04 11:45

I know, but if if I were a fan of the Vikings, I would want Kyler to start first. And here's my reason why. Um it's strictly because you don't want to bounce back and forth between quarterbacks.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Oh, I don't want that at all.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

So the and and the reason I say that is you have a one one-year deal with Kyler, right? You've got him for one year, and you need to make a decision because you don't want to sit where you are with Sam Darnold two years ago and go, I don't know, he wasn't good enough. So you start with Kyler, and you then know whether or not he is good enough. Okay? Because he's either good enough and he's the starter throughout the whole year, or he's not good enough, you now go, Great, we don't have to sign him. And you put JJ in for the reps. Do you go whole year? What if he's average? With the weapons they have.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

If he's average, it's a problem.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

He's like he's not good enough. Just like average stats, he's not losing you the game.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

You know, I truly do that. Then I don't know if you I think you probably would. Well it depends. If you're winning games, you're not gonna switch.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

I truly do believe that if Kyler Murray starts and he struggles, I don't think you're gonna have the fan base necessarily pounding on the table through after week like four. You gotta put JJ in the middle. No, no. But uh what I do think is that if you're gonna be able to do week six, though, if he struggles and JJ doesn't come out, you know, and and the coaches are endorsing him to come in week seven and week eight, that tells me at that point the Vikings are drafting another rookie quarterback coming up. Probably, yeah. I mean, that's that's that's how that's gonna play out then. All of a sudden it's neither of these guys are the right guys.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

That's why you need to start with Kyler, though, in my mind. You you pretty much just have to. Um unless JJ all of a sudden is it just lighting it up in training camp. I mean, we're talking leaps and bounds better than what he looked last year. Yeah, just doubting dominating preteason or something. I I I doubt it based on what we saw.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

Sure.

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Um, I just don't expect that big of a jump that quick for no explicit reason. Um so to me, you you want to make sure you do it, you're filling out your checklist for the year and fully assessing what you have at quarterback so you can make the right decision come next offseason. So to me, that starts with Kyler. Because if you start with JJ and he's bad for a few games, you're like, well, now we gotta we gotta try Kyler. Then you go to Kyler. Well, what if what if he's not good? Then do you go back to JJ? Because then at that point, he's got no confidence in himself because he's now been benched for Kyler Murray. You're putting him back in because Kyler's that bad, and you're like, well, I guess we'll go with him.

SPEAKER_03 14:20

Yeah, but that's kind of the same issue you have no matter what. But when you switch quarterbacks, like and they if they're not good, then you have to like run into the problem, like, okay, do we go back?

SPEAKER_04 14:28

At no time has any NFL franchise ever has it ever turned out good when you go back and forth between quarterbacks. Yeah, no, it doesn't work. No, there's and that's why I say you start with Kyler because he's your short-term option.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

My sad what I like the nightmare scenario is this, and and and this is what I could see. It it legitly could happen, which means I have to say it. Yeah, Kyler plays okay early, slowly gets better, is not amazing yet, but you can see a f a flash could get better, yeah. Gets hurt.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

Oh, yeah, that would suck. Because then you're like, okay, and then JJ's is just okay.

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And then JJ's just okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

Oh god, that's a nightmare. Because then you don't know what to do. Do you run it back again, try all over again next year?

SPEAKER_02 15:11

And that's and well, and here's the thing, you can't run it back with Kyler at that point.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

Well, you can.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Sure, but then you don't have JJ.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

Maybe.

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No, you don't still under contract. I understand that, but he's gonna hold hold some trade value more so if he's okay at that point.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

Not much.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

But then also, Kyler's then getting locked up to a big time deal. That's not necessarily locked up.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

You could if he gets hurt and he hasn't proven anything yet, he might he might someone will get hurt.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

It might be three years, a hundred million, no problem. That's a no problem.

SPEAKER_04 15:42

Not with next year's quarterback draft class, Bobby. Not with next year's quarterback draft class. I think he's enough quarterbacks out there. It is bridge. I don't I don't disagree with you, because that's what that's basically what um Malik Willis got less than that. And he looked better than Kyler Murray did last year. Sure. So yeah. And not that he played as much, but he looked better.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

So I'm concerned about that, where I'm like, oh man, that's that that would be a nightmare from that standpoint. Kyler is not uh like he's not a model of like, oh I'm longevity health. No, he's not. I honestly think you're gonna see Kyler and JJ both start games this year.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

I'm I'm confident they both will, yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

So at that point, it you know, I truly when I said if if JJ wins it in training camp, I want him to start. Give him the reins then and let him start. I think that's a the And if he's bad, then you know he's bad. You take him out, bring in Kyler for the rest of it.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

But if Kyler's bad then too, then you're gonna bench him back up and you for the young guy again.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Then at that point, then you know both of them aren't the guys and you're directing someone anyway.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Maybe like that's why I still would just start with Kyler. If he's not good, then you move on.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

I I will tell you this. I an underlying story here is going to be Kevin O'Connell. I think this is a really big year for Kevin O'Connell.

SPEAKER_04 16:58

It is a big year because if he can't get something out of Kyler Murray or JJ McCarthy year now, like, okay, well, is he as good of a head coach or quarterback whisperer? Because he was dubbed the quarter, can fix any quarterback. Yes. At that point, he clearly can't because that Kyler Murray has had good seasons. Wasn't an MVP talk at one point.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Yeah. I did see that there was like statistics-wise, like it is odd that he's still with the team without court without playoff success. That most teams would have would have moved on already.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

Well, to be real, the bike haven't had a lot of playoff success, though.

SPEAKER_03 17:29

That's what I'm saying. Is that like most teams most teams like if they don't have core like playoff success within like four years or whatever, they move on. They usually do, yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Yeah, but at the same time, like he's also just So is this is this a do-or-die year for him?

SPEAKER_04 17:43

No, I don't think it's do-or-if it goes horribly wrong, it it could be die. But I don't think it's I don't think he's on the hot seat or anything. He could work himself to it. He could work himself to it by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

If if the Vikings finish last in the division in an under-500 record, he's gonna feel the heat a lot.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

And see, here's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Let's say But he just got a contract extension. He's going anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 18:04

That doesn't mean anything back for coaches. It doesn't mean a thing. Yeah, they'll they'll sign the guy one year and fire him the next year. It doesn't matter. Questi just got a contract extension too. They fired him as GM.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

This is true.

SPEAKER_04 18:14

They did they it that it does not matter. So, in my mind, if for some reason it does go horribly wrong, I think they would move on because you have the likes of Mike Tomlin out there who was a former Vikings assistant.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

He was, he was the defense coordinator before he went to the state.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

If you could bring him back as your head coach, oh that'd be really that would be tempting.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

That would be one guy.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

You're like, hey, a very established coach has ties back to the Vikings. He does. And I could see where that would be like, man, that would be.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

He has always had positive things to say about the Minneapolis area. Oh, for sure. So I mean he's got good ties. Um that would be quite interesting if that would play out. But let's hope that the Vikings have a great season. Oh, no, let's hope. Tyler Murray comes in or JJ McCarthy, whichever one wins the job and leads the Vikings to 13, 14 wins, and the Vikings make some noise in the playoffs, and who knows?

SPEAKER_04 19:04

All right, so that's optimistic. Gotta stay optimistic. So, other news around the NFL Ryan to answer your question. Uh, Cam Jordan signed a one-year $7.5 million, up to $11 million through sack-based incentives. All right, so not big money. Not really, no. Solid money. Yeah. Um, other news, um, Kyle Pitts signed a three-year $54 million contract extension, including $36 million guaranteed. Did see that. Ryan, little relevant for what we and I were talking about last week. Because we were talking about an extension for Tucker Craft and where would that fall compared to the other tight ends and fall?

SPEAKER_03 19:37

I was gonna say like I don't think it's adjusting.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

And and so Kyle Pitts is um uh what was it? Uh franchise tag. There you go. Uh, I think that was 15 million a year. Yeah. Or 15 million for one year. Yep. Um, and then obviously Isaiah likely was 13.3 per year. Trey McBride and George Kittle are right around the 19 mark. George Kittle's at 19.1. So what I said is I thought he would be somewhere between Isaiah Likely at 13, but probably closer to 18 is what I said. 17, 18 million per year is what I thought.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Yeah, yeah. You we didn't think he'd reset the reset the market.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

I didn't think he'd reset the market, but I thought he'd come in a couple million. And this Kyle Pitts kind of confirms to me that that's probably where he would slot in.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Right around 18 million. He they might even edge him out a little bit because the Packers would do a four-year deal, so they probably could get him up to a slightly more just because the they usually do a four-year deal and they probably find a way to work it out. So the first two years after two years you could move on if you needed to.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

Is there still rumblings they're gonna do that this offseason?

SPEAKER_04 20:36

The their plan is to do that before the end of training camp. Nice. So I don't see why that won't happen.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Did we talk about uh unfortunate as a Vikings fan? I have to ring up this. Micah Parsons. Prolonged, I've now heard a report it could be from his brother.

SPEAKER_04 20:53

His brother came out and said something that was. I mean, I'd honestly I want him healthy, I don't want him to re-injure himself.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

So here's the deal. Uh he's suffering from an injury that is not career threatening or shouldn't be. Um, if his knee is not responding right away, yeah, that's a little concerning, but at the same time, yeah, you just want you he's young enough, you invested enough into him. I'm yeah take your time, get him back healthy, and move on.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

I'll be honest, the the Packers without him should be able to still have a winning record through eight games. They should. Um, as a matter of fact, one of the headlines on NFL.com is uh the 2025 collapse fueling Watson and Packers finish is a big emphasis for us this year, is is his quote. So then that's kind of my point. Like, I don't think those kind of collapses are going to happen again, right? Shouldn't. Or at least. As many of them, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:02

It depends on, you know, again, the one of the intangibles that you have to you know look at for the Packers, and it's something that you brought up. We've talked about who is grabbing the reins. Yeah. And taking that locker room as the leadership presence and saying, Yeah, we're gonna do this.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

And I've heard encouraging things because Tucker Kraft is one of those guys. Yeah. And you know what?

SPEAKER_02 22:23

If the Packers could embody Tucker Kraft. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a Dan Campbell like that.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

He was missing during that stretch. Well, sure. Because he tore his ACL in November.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

So, you know, there's plenty of those where I'm like, okay, you know what? Um we'll see where that goes. But I the Packers beginning of the season schedule is the easier part of their schedule, too. Albeit some of those games are on the road. Um, so again, I I don't see any reason why they still can't have a winning record through that point. And if you do, you want Micah Parsons back for the playoffs, anyways.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

That's more important. I'd rather have him the second half of the year.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

You want him the second half of the year, anyways. So it's like, okay, you know, it just makes sense. So for sure.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Especially a well-rested Micah Parsons.

SPEAKER_04 23:03

Yeah. Um, all right, other news. Uh, Ryan, you and I spent some time talking about Brendan Sorsby last week uh applying for a supplemental draft.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

God, the NFL just did wonders for him today.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

The NFL decided today that they are not going to hold a supplemental draft. Yeah, they were like, oh pass. Uh in a in a and a lesser less a letter from the commissioner to Brendan Sorsby saying, sorry, we're not going to be holding one.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Um and basically You're eligible for next year's draft if you'd like to.

SPEAKER_04 23:30

Yeah, he's eligible next for next year for 2027. He's gonna have to basically sit out the season then.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:34

Um we'll see where he goes. Maybe he tries to take his court issue back to the N CAA and tries to play now still. I don't know if he can can still do that after.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

I think he can. He's still he's not he's not a part of the NFL.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Right. I I I think he can. I just I don't know how that works.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Um is a very interesting deal. He got an injunction where the from a judge who said, Well, now he can play.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

A judge in Texas to play at Texas.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

And uh then that's slightly biased because he's from Texas.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Sure, and that got shot down then. Um but then you were also hearing you know, other conferences saying we just aren't gonna play Texas tech. I mean, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Right, you got problems across the board.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

We're not gonna play against this guy. I mean, he's bad for the integrity of the game. Yep. This is um the NFL coming out sending the message that we take gambling very seriously. And um, even though you're not a member of the NFL at this time, we don't want that. Uh so that that's the clear message that they're sending. You know, it's um it's a deal where this uh this young kid made a pro uh made a mistake. He obviously made a lot of them, but repeatedly. I mean, the problem is he made one bet on his own team. He made six thousand different bets, they found out, through the course of his play. And uh or at time in college, whether it was at Indiana uh or Texas Texas.

SPEAKER_04 25:04

The bets on his own team were at Indiana.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Which is and I know he wasn't playing.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Those were the only those were the only ones that were on his own team. He was playing at the time, yeah. Because Mendoza wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Yeah, and see that's uh That was a couple years ago. That's just that's a hard pill to swallow. Um because that's that's uh doesn't look good, and that's for sure. It doesn't. It makes me think though, like in the past, like if there's anyone who is capable of doing something like this, and maybe this is a total mischaracterization, but although Baker or not Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manzell. Yeah, it feels very Johnny Manfield. It feels very Johnny Money Manzell here, you know. You know, um obviously Johnny Manzell never been tied to gambling that I'm aware of on his own team, but he definitely got in trouble for all the autographs and memorabilia stuff.

SPEAKER_04 25:51

Which was illegal at the time. Against the rules. I don't want to say illegal. It was against the rules.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

It was an infraction of the NCAA. Um It was against the rules.

SPEAKER_04 25:58

Yes, he broke the rules, not the law.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Um you know, but it's a tough, it's a tough deal. The NFL has a very tough the tough thing about the NFL, and this was a good move by the commissioner saying, nope, we're not having the supplemental draft, we're not even going there. The flip side of the coin is that the NFL has to deal with every single year at all times, is these players make so much money that they're very publicly out there, whether you're a star college quarterback entertaining going to the NFL, or you're a current NFL player making millions of dollars. Gambling is wrong, it's horrible. You ruin the integrity of the sport if you're playing in the NFL and then gambling on it at the same time, or in college, in college football. With the NIL money now, that is my goodness, is this now a problem? It was a problem before NIL money. You can't gamble on your own team.

SPEAKER_05 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

At the same time, there seems to be a troubling amount of domestic abuse disturbances that happen in the NFL, and it seems like the message they just sent to this young man for gambling is significantly much worse than Geno Smith being brought up and being investigated. Well, I totally agree with potentially.

SPEAKER_04 27:15

Or Josh Jacobs.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Or Josh Jacobs. Like, what kind of message are we sending from that standpoint?

SPEAKER_04 27:20

To be fair, they're being investigated versus versus confirmed gambling.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

I don't even have to go to those guys.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

I know, I know. Totally agree. The one thing I can say where I I I think I know why the NFL is is almost harder on gambling.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

It's the integrity of the sport.

SPEAKER_04 27:35

Because if you lose the integrity of the sport, you've lost it all.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah, no, the business and the integrity of the sport is bigger than any individual player. Well, individual actions of one club.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

Well, that's the problem, is you could ruin the entire league.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Because people will be like Well, I think it's I don't even think the game the games are all fixed. But what I'm gambling on them all. What I would say.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

That's why boxing struggled for so long. Yeah, it's an image issue. And they did a little bit of that when it came to um, or at least the teams did, some of the massage parlor. You're looking at Justin Tucker, who's been out right now. You're looking at, you know, Deshaun Watson when has gone through quite a bit to get to the place where he's at the end of the day. You know, you start looking at some of that. They they took some steps there, but I I I'm not talking I'm not even talking about the the pending cases right now where they're investigating to see what happens because charges were brought. But there has been a number of instances of domestic abuse or um you know behavior of that nature, violent behavior that has not uh felt to me to the same punishment level.

SPEAKER_04 28:46

Yeah, I I I would bad optics. It is it is bad optics, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Because you're right. The actions of one player, Aaron Hernandez killed a guy for Christ's sake.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

Well, right.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

Okay, the NFL's still going. But if you're telling me the Patriots offensive line, tight ends, and defense replacing bets with Tom Brady. Oh, yeah, we got a big problem.

SPEAKER_04 29:07

Right, exactly. You're you're now cheating almost.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

I mean, it's not quite cheating, but it's just fixing the scandal of the 1919 World Series. Right, exactly. You know, shoulus Joe Jackson and and going to the Supreme Court.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

I mean, this is you start questioning uh the whole integrity of the sport and and everything like that. So I mean, I I think that's why they're so much harder on gambling because you they have to take such a hard line to protect.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

Because if you let it slip a little bit, it's gonna slip a lot. So I mean, yeah, they're they're not even allowed to I mean, you're not even allowed to use a gambling app in inside a facility. Yes. Doesn't matter what sport you're gambling on. Yeah, you can't you can't even use it.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

So um I don't believe you're allowed to gamble on any sports.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

You can get they can gamble on other sports. You just cannot be gambling while you're in a NFL facility. And that makes sense, or you know, like a team facility. You cannot be doing it on premise. It's like we don't want to be associated with that by our players or coaches or you know, anybody part of the team. So yeah. Um, all right, any other news from around there? Uh training camp dates and locations have all been announced. Um Packers are starting on rookies report on July 27th, and all the rest of the team reports on July 28th. And then the Vikings are July 26th for rookies and July 28th for the rest.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Yep. So it's exciting. I mean, uh, we're getting closer.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

We are getting close.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

We're now it's a month away from training camp. Once training camp starts going, I don't know about you, but my excitement levels just start going up because now we're hearing. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt, but you start hearing about position battles. Um you start hearing about uh wasn't there already a big entry on for who?

SPEAKER_03 30:57

I don't remember. I thought I thought I saw somebody somebody had hurt their leg or something like that already. Not a big name, nobody big name. Wasn't a big name. No.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

Um, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I I get excited for about a week and then I'm like, uh, I need the regular season to start. Yep. So once training camp comes, it's like, yeah, oh, okay, I'm bored.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Yeah, preseason. Preseason is always a tease.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Very big tease. Yeah, first week I'm like super excited. After that, I'm like, nah, I'm ready for week one now. Yeah. So all right. We are going to jump into a draft. Uh, I'm gonna see if Weston's gonna be able to join or not here.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 31:32

I assume so. He jumped into the draft. Uh yeah, he added himself in. He there.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

He's present. Um, whether he can.

SPEAKER_04 31:39

Well, I don't know if yeah, I talked and he's not online technically. He joined it, but he's not online. So we'll see if we go here. Um, so what we're gonna do, we're gonna do uh I think I have it 11 rounds here. Yep, 11 rounds. We are going to do uh draft settings here.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

It's uh full redraft, right? I assume so.

SPEAKER_04 31:57

Yep, full redraft, uh half point PPR, um 12 teams, and sorry, I'm trying to find my roster settings. Here we go. One QB, two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end, two flex, and then we'll draft three bench spots.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

Alright, so pretty standard. Just know we're not doing defense and kicker. Correct.

SPEAKER_04 32:16

Yeah, which makes sense. So Weston will be out in a couple minutes here.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Um, alright. So, uh, Ryan, you got the third pick. Oh no, no, not yet. Oh, you're gonna randomize him?

SPEAKER_04 32:33

Weston's got the third pick. There we go. Oh my goodness. Oh boy, that's gonna be interesting. I got the second pick. Bobby's got the fourth pick, Ryan's got the 12 again. No, you do you have 12 last time or do you have 11? Uh I've I've I've frequently been at the end, I think. You have been frequently at the end.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

It's the randomizer. I know.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

You've been randomized. R and genius strikes again.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

Welcome.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

So we will we will vote for Weston's picks until he's able to join.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

That's fine. That's fine. Is that what was he like vote for me?

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Otherwise, I I do have an article we could discuss as well, real quick, if you'd rather do that now.

unknown 33:07

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

Uh no, that's alright.

SPEAKER_04 33:09

We can get started. He said to start without him and we can get going and then we'll roll through it. I really care about it.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Weston wants to take a kicker.

SPEAKER_04 33:17

A kicker? First round. You know what? That's probably right.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

We'll pull a league on him and we'll just draft nothing but kickers and defenses, which are real good kicker, too.

SPEAKER_04 33:29

Idiots on autotown auto draft for good McPherson. Not even a good, yeah, not even a good kicker.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Not even like a great, it's not like you're taking Brandon Aubrey.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

We'll give him the Packers, we'll give him the Packers rookie. Trey Smack. Yeah. Yeah. Smack him up. Don't even know if he's good or not.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

You got smacked with the third overall pack.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Anyone who drafts him, I'm just gonna be like, you got smacked.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

Oh, for sure. He misses one.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

I'm gonna be like, he smacked you.

SPEAKER_04 33:53

Or but the thing is, if he's if he ends up being really good, you're gonna have a lot of fun with that as a Packer fan.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

Smack. Yeah.

unknown 34:00

Where'd it go smack?

SPEAKER_04 34:01

To be fair, Rich Eisen was having a lot of fun with it. He was showing doing highlights of him for like the I think it was for the draft when it was going on. Oh yeah. And every time he kicked it, smack! Oh yeah, smack. And I'm like, all right, well, that's fun. That is, that is. So, all right, we will start the draft and go in there. All right. All right, so the first pick is going to be B. John Robinson. No surprise there. None at all. Um, so alright. It's a tough place to. It's not actually for me. This is this is an easy pick.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

World is your oyster currently.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

Because we Ryan and I talked about Ryan and I did a mock draft last week.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Did we do it last week or two weeks ago? Two weeks ago. We did it two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

I had to think about it. I couldn't remember. Um, so two weeks ago for me. So top running backs on the board, Jameer Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor. Um, and then you've got um Puka, uh Jamar Chase, JSN, you know, those are the kind of the top guys that are out there. Um for me, careful, Justin. You got 29 minutes left to draft. I know. That's I actually did it right this time. What did I give us last time?

SPEAKER_03 35:08

Like 10? It's like no, it was like a minute and a half, it was like two minutes.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

It was two minutes. Yeah. We were chugging through the analysis on these. Um, I'm gonna take Jameer Gibbs. Yep. Um he's gonna be the battle cow. From everything I've been seeing, for me in the drafts, I I want to get a running back in the first round because all the studs seem to go right away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

So if I'm early in the first, I'm taking it like the second round second round running backs were slim.

SPEAKER_04 35:34

It just it cleared out real fast. So I'm gonna take Jameer Gibbs. So um, let's see here. I mean, we'll take a look.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Um Weston's up now. What do you guys think for him? Yeah, what do you like here, Bobby?

SPEAKER_02 35:48

I think Chase is gonna have a monster year. I think um I think he's definitely there. I think also you could you could still look at it from the standpoint of what he would be coming back around uh it looks like 24, 23-ish range? Uh 22, but you're close. Almost 22, so I'm your math almost math. You're looking at Malik Neighbors, Nico Collins. You still have Josh Jacobs there, but there's a lot of questions. Pickens and Olave, Bucky Irving, maybe as your running back. I think if you're I think you're awfully tempted here to go. I'm gonna go take Jonathan Taylor.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

You think Jonathan Taylor? Ryan? Yeah, I uh you can't go wrong there. He's he's aging, which throws some question marks to you. He's 28, I believe. Which I mean he's getting up there for running backs now. He's 27 right now. He's 27, he's gonna be 28. And he's had some injury problems, but your other top top running back options currently are Christian McCaffrey, James Cook, and then Kenneth Walker.

SPEAKER_04 36:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

And I mean, like, you know, like Christian McCaffrey again, polder, you know, gets hurt. Yeah. Uh James Cook, you could can't go wrong with, but I mean, that's reaching a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

That's that's reaching a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

Yeah, and then Kenneth Walker, new team, hard to tell. Okay. So yeah, I think I think Jonathan Taylor is a good back. That's that's where you'd pick? I think so. I think I think that's where I'd pick.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

I think so. For me, after the first two go off the board, um, that's where it kind of breaks for me. And so ultimately for me, I would probably go either um Jamar Chase or Puka. Oh, you go wide receiver here? I would go wide receiver here. Um leaning Jamar Chase right now, only because Puka's offseason freaked me out a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

With his like, oh, I'm checking myself into rehab for something.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Yeah, I don't know if they ever actually announced what it was.

SPEAKER_04 37:39

Mental stability, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

Um could be gambling either.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

So it just it just kind of it freaks you out a little bit. You're like, well, okay, I don't want a head case as my number one draft pick. Well then you're like he also missed the question.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

Would he end up leaving in the regular season then, too?

SPEAKER_04 37:58

And that's my question. That's my fear, right? Uh my my fear is will he miss a game? And Joe Burrow just came out and said, hey, our team this year on offense, I think it's gonna be like the 2019 uh LSU Tigers. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Well, two of us said Taylor.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

I know, so we will go with Taylor.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Um I just wanted to make sure I'm gonna draft Chase. Yeah, see, that questioned your motive.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

But honestly, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I really did question your motive.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

I wanted to take him Puka here and I wanted to take him to McCaffrey. And honestly, coming back around.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

But you would have taken Chase if you were Weston?

SPEAKER_02 38:29

No, I would have taken Taylor. Oh, okay. I still would have taken Taylor. And the reason why is because just coming back therapy auto-picked no. Oh, can you let it auto-pick?

SPEAKER_04 38:37

I can let it auto-pick. I should probably just do that then. JSN. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

Alright then. Okay, I will stick to my guns.

SPEAKER_04 38:48

You can take Taylor take Taylor. I was like, yeah, you you probably should at that point.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

I will take Taylor just because of the running backs coming back later.

SPEAKER_04 38:56

And that's and that's ultimately where I feel like it's going.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

There are so many that go late first that gets very and Kenneth Wonka, James Cook, Christian.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

You can start with after your pick is Puka.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:05

Then Christian McCaffrey, Jamar Chase fell to 107.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:09

So Ryan and I commented on this last time. The CPU is definitely going a bit more than that.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

It feels more erratic.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

It feels more erratic this year for sure.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

The sleeper app has updated it or what, but like it feels probably more accurate.

SPEAKER_04 39:22

What it probably is more accurate. Ryan, what I think it is, though, is we're still early in the year. So I'm guessing it's looking at the variability and actually ADP and where people are taking players. And so it's ultimately building in that variability in terms of the algorithm that it's using. So, anyways, Jamar Chase, James Cook, Devonnie Chan, Kenneth Walker. I'm on Ross St. Brown.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

How do you guys feel about Kenneth Walker being a late first-round draft pick this year? I mean I want to avoid that at all costs. I understand.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

I don't I don't think I'm avoiding it.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

I don't think the Chiefs' offensive line is that much better than it was last year.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

No, but they also didn't have a good running back, Bobby.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Yeah, but they also, it was like yards before contact, they were like the lowest in the NFL, too. So like that's the first one.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

They also had Kareem Hunt at like 30 years old playing for them.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

I mean, I don't I don't think I would feel great about it, but I don't think I would avoid the pick. I'm not avoiding it. Uh it's not a guy I'm like, oh crap, I can't have him. Yeah, if he fell to me, I'd be like, uh. But I I I think I'd take him. So all right. Ryan, uh, what are you thinking? Okay, so I got I am the 12th pick. So I got two picks in a row here. Uh we top of the board, we got CeeDee Lamb, Ashton Genty, Justin Jefferson, Marion Hampton. Um I definitely want to go running back and wide receiver here, since I'm gonna be it's gonna be so long before I get my next pick. It's kind of tough. Like, top running backs, we got Genty, which like I don't know if he's my guy. Vegas makes me nervous, you know. I feel like Justin when we drafted anyway, I got Barkley, so I could reach down to him.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

You do you and Barkley? Um I don't remember. Barkley somebody. Did you go? You might have gone Kenneth Walker, Barkley.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Oh yeah, you're not I might have you're not avoiding him then. No. Well no, I mean like I don't think I would have to be.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

He took him as like the 12th pick. Yeah, like I was like where I was 11 or something. So yeah, what do you what are you thinking, Ryan?

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Um I think I go CD Lamb for one of them. I feel good about that. I would agree with that. That's you know, I don't I don't think you can go wrong there.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Um I I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

For my you don't think so? I I think there is you'd go, but like the other ones are Justin Jefferson, Drake London, as the other top two wide oats. I like unless I go double running back, I could have won double running back.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

I like JJ a lot more than CD this year. And I like CD a lot. But the situation is George Pickens balled out last year. And is and he is taking he is going to continue to take away targets from CD Lamb.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

I think it will still open CD Lamb up to four absolute monster games, though, where he's gonna get single covered.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Yeah, I like looking at it. I like looking at that positive more spin, too.

SPEAKER_04 41:58

No, he he will, because if George Pickens has a couple monster games in a row, guess what? Defenses are gonna go, oh, well, we can't can't double CD every time. We gotta expect it.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

I don't disagree with you. He will have monster games, but I also think his floors for games will be lower.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

His floors for sure is lower, but I think his ceiling is almost as it's just as high.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

It could be higher.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

Wow, in years past, CeeDee Lamb's been going around 7, 8, 9. Yeah, I know. He's fallen back to the end of the first.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

So I mean JJ's gone top five in years past.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

Yeah, and that did not go well last year because he didn't finish in the top 24.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Well, and that had more to do with, you know, if that's Kyler Murray coming in. But I also CeeDee Lamb finished what last year for a wide receiver.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

22, and he only played 14 games. He finished better than JJ and he played less games.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

I understand that. I understand that, but I think the quarterback play upgrade definitely helps potentially.

SPEAKER_04 42:50

And he only had three touchdowns last year, his lowest in his career.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Doesn't Jefferson had like two.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

I don't know if that's a good thing. I don't think that's something.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

That's what I'm saying. Well, I'm just saying, like, if you wanted to be like the disparity of touchdowns was sort of they they they had a comparable season last year.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

It's just that I like I like having a safer quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 43:11

In full point PPR, JJ finished a half, he finished one spot. He finished at 21 in full point PPR, JJ did. Um CB was 20, wasn't he? CeeDee Lamb was 22.

SPEAKER_03 43:19

Oh, he was 22.

SPEAKER_04 43:20

But he played three less games. I get that.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

I get it.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Yeah. I just I think I think the quarterback play is safer with Dallas. Oh, totally agree. There's no doubt there. Yeah, so I I that's that's my main reason for it. Yeah. Um, for my next pick, I think I will take Genty. I don't feel great about it. I actually am okay with that. I kind of would have liked it.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

I thought about taking one of the older running backs, but I probably would have gone Chase Brown there or Saquon Barkley or I thought Saquon. Yeah. So Justin Jefferson goes next to Team 11, then Drake London, Omarion Hampton, Saquon Barkley. Malik Neighbors to me still feels way too high with the injury risk of him coming back into this year. He went at 206. Um, Jeremiah Love. Uh Chase Brown went. So Bobby, you're back up. What do you feel about Jeremiah Love going? All right, I got Weston. Joining in. Hey Weston.

SPEAKER_05 44:06

What's going on? What's going on?

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Perfect timing. Oh, no, yeah. Don't worry. The computer drafted for you in the first round. You will never have been happier. I promise you this.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Yeah. I texted who he got.

SPEAKER_03 44:19

Dang it, ruined the surprise.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

JSN, baby.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

Yeah, not who I was picking at three, but we'll uh we'll rebound. We'll rebound.

SPEAKER_04 44:31

Okay. I think So Bobby's up at the so Bobby's got the fourth pick. I've got the second pick, so you're sandwiched between us, Weston. Good luck.

unknown 44:38

God damn it.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

Yeah, snipe from both ends.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

I will tell you that this is kind of the scenario I was thinking was going to happen and why I took Jonathan Taylor at four, and that is you got Trey McBride, Nico Collins, Josh Jacobs, who I don't want to touch with a 10-foot pole in the second round right now, given the. Not in the second.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Not in the second.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Third or fourth.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

Maybe if you came back around, maybe. Maybe. What if it was an 11-foot pole?

SPEAKER_02 45:02

No. Not even with your pole. George Pickens, uh, Chris Olave, and then you're down to Bucky Irving. Um, I'm thinking I'm not as in love with Trey McBride this year just because I think there is some more question marks, potentially a quarterback. I think Jacoby Brissett did a fine job getting in the football. Sure. Um, I think there's probably a little more value in, say, Nico Collins here.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

And Nico being the number one in Houston, I do like Nico Collins here. I'm gonna take him. Sure. I get that wide receiver then coming back. Sure. Alright, Weston, you are up.

unknown 45:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

Uh Josh Jacobs. Yeah, is your pole longer than 10 feet?

unknown 45:49

Don't really want to mess with Jacobs. Um, Pickens being the number two.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

I think this don't get the bad, but not really an interest of me. Uh seeing as I already have a wide receiver, um my options are interesting. This is half PPR.

SPEAKER_04 46:03

Half PPR. Uh what's that?

SPEAKER_00 46:06

Redraft or dynasty.

SPEAKER_04 46:07

This is redraft. Redraft half point PPR. Um yeah, you're starting six-point touchdown, pass quarterback. So you could go Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

Yeah, I'm gonna try something here. I'm gonna go uh I have what three picks between me, four picks between me.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

Four picks.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

I'm thinking Josh Allen and I got two of them. I would just let you know he's worth less, given that this is a six-point passing. That's fair. He is technically if it was a four-point, I get it. Because his rushing upside brings in so many. I mean, he's good for damn near a rushing touchdown a game, it seems like. So pretty close. Um, you know, that's enough where it's like, yep, alright, slide him up the board a little bit. But given that this is a six-point passing touchdown lead.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

He did have 14 rushing touchdowns.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Yeah, so I mean, that's where I pretty good. Um I yeah, I think there's probably value elsewhere.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

I mean, that's more than CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson combined.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

No kidding. Those guys rack out points.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

I'm stuck between I'm stuck between a few, but given the fact that uh Justin has two picks in front of me, it makes me a little weary on where I want to go with this.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

Yeah, I don't feel committed to any pick here.

unknown 47:23

Yeah, because Justin's weird and we already know that.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

I'm gonna give the advice, but I think you're gonna understand where I'm coming from here, Bobby.

unknown 47:32

So I'm gonna go Alan and hopefully this works out for me.

SPEAKER_00 47:36

I want positional advantage, so I'll take Alan.

SPEAKER_02 47:42

I get you. I know what you're doing. And you know what? Honestly, I don't I don't have a problem with that. I get it. I want the top cream of the crop. Dude, your guy's on the board, he's right there, number 20. You love him. Trey McBride?

SPEAKER_04 47:57

T McBee. I do like T McBee. I love him. I do love T McBee, I really do. Um, but I don't know if I want to where I want to go right now.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

What are you thinking, Justin?

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Uh, so I am between um You like Pickens here? No, not I don't. Uh not Pickens. I'm I'm between Derrick Henry and AJ Brown, honestly. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Um you want somebody solid and that's proven it with not a beginner quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

Yeah, I I'm gonna go with AJ Brown with my pick here and hope it did work out good. I knew they had a running back already, so I was hoping they wouldn't go Derrick Henry, they wouldn't Bucky Irving. Um I'm gonna come back around and take Derrick Henry, so I've got two solid running backs. So I've got Jameer Gibbs, AJ Brown, and Derrick Henry.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Yeah, because team one took Trey McBride and then Bucky Irving. Yes. Which I can live with.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

This worked out, this worked out in and it worked the way I thought it was going to. I'm gonna be light at running back, but I'm going to go back to the ball.

SPEAKER_04 48:58

Taking Brock Bowers. I knew it. That that is smart move.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

Additional advantage.

SPEAKER_04 49:05

Yeah, Brock for sure. Yeah, I I thought about waiting to see whichever one of those two came back around to me in the third and taking them, but I I know running back thins out here super fast, so I really wanted a running back.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

Bobby pretty much has to take Josh Jacobs here.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

No, I don't. Um, I will not take Josh Jacobs here. He loves Brees Hall. I do love Brees Hall, and that's probably gonna be my pick. Um this guy loves Brees Hall. I love George Pickens. Um, I really do, but I think he benefited from the three games that um C D Lamb was out. So there's enough questions. He's rated too high. I like Chris Olave and I like um what they got going on there in New Orleans, but I don't think what about Rashi Rice? He'll get you there quick. Yeah, Rashi Rice just got out of jail. Yeah, feeling good. He'll get you there quick. I like what you did there. Yeah, I know. Um I'm between Kyron Williams with the Rams and Brees Hall, and I think Geno Smith is much more inclined to dump it off to Brees Hall a bunch this year. As long as he's not in jail. I'll give you something interesting. Ashton Genty had like 55 catches last year as a rookie. He did have a lot, yeah. Um, I think Brees Hall's gonna have a ton of catches from Geno Smith. Could be, yeah. Um so I'm gonna go and take Brees Hall here. Okay. As my pick.

SPEAKER_04 50:19

I figured Brees Hall goes, then Josh Jacobs. I was wondering when the computer was gonna catch the falling knife. Uh George Pickens, Chris Olave.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Really brought up his best charges with the knife, I thought. I don't know anything.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

That was an accident.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Pretty sure the stock term had something to do with it. The falling knife is a stock term?

SPEAKER_04 50:39

I've never heard of never heard don't catch the falling knife? No.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

Oh, like when a stock's just when has there ever been a situation where there's a knife falling?

SPEAKER_04 50:46

Well, it's kind of dangerous to catch a falling knife. You're probably gonna cut yourself.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Yeah, but when did that scenario ever come up where someone would say, don't catch the falling knife?

SPEAKER_04 50:54

I don't know, Bobby, it's a saying, okay? Get over it. It could happen. It could what if you knock it off the counter? Try to grab it real quick. Don't try to catch the falling knife. I know you don't cook, you're not in the kitchen after cooking.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

I do cook a lot. And no, I would not do that.

SPEAKER_04 51:10

All right, uh, so after Brees Hall, Josh Jacobs goes, George Pickens, Chris Olave, uh, Kyron Williams, Travis Achan Jr. Yes, that's how you pronounce his name now, Weston. Not ETN. Yeah, I'm not yeah, whatever. T. Higgins, uh, Javante Williams, and then Ryan, you are up. Rashi Rice is just waiting there in a jail cell for you.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Yeah, I'm passing on him. Um, I kind of don't feel great. I mean, there's I don't feel great. I don't feel great here. I love it. I was kind of hoping there'd be there'd be more better running backs still here, and they're not. What if they're just better, not more better? That's true. That is true. They could just be less better. Um, so I got the I got like I said, I still got the two picks in a row. I kind of like um, I think I'm gonna go McMillan, the first one.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

I do like that pick a lot. I love it. I know you like that pick. Well, yeah. I'm a McMillan fan.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

Um, I kind of think just to upset Weston. Cam Scattaboo!

unknown 52:14

No, you can take him in.

SPEAKER_04 52:15

You can take him next. Eaton Cranes. Yeah, all right. Uh Lamar Jackson goes next. Rashi Rice has got it out of got out of jail free. Garrett Wilson, Trevion Henderson, team eight has four running backs. Yeah, and team seven has four wide receivers. Luther Burden, uh, Devontae Adams, and then Colston Loveland goes.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Yeah, a little disappointing, Colston Loveland.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

You want you wanted him there?

SPEAKER_02 52:36

I like Colston Loveland a lot this year. I think he's gonna have a really great year. I like him as well.

SPEAKER_03 52:41

Um McClunkey's right there.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

This is now uh McKonkey.

SPEAKER_03 52:46

Ladidi.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Ladidi, yeah. Ladidi McConkey. Um yeah, you got uh looks like some wide receivers here on the board with Waddle and McConkey, uh, Zay Flowers. I'm looking predominantly wide receiver here.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

Um you got two running backs and one wide receiver currently.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

I really like Jalen Waddell, actually. I think he's gonna benefit from a Bo Nix um Bo Nicks is such a boomer bust quarterback, though. Bo Nicks is not a guy who likes to push the ball down the field tremendously. And Jalen Waddell is a guy who can benefit and actually get a lot out of that.

SPEAKER_04 53:22

Maybe they got a lot of mouse of feeding. I don't trust Sean Payton.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

Um he made he made Cortland Sutton uh a 12th overall wide receiver in our dynasty league.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

So Cortland Sutton, yeah. Cortland Sutton was good the year before they had um uh what's his name? I'm gonna take it on his name, but yeah. I'm gonna take Jalen Waddell here. I'm okay with that. Weston, you are up. Mad McConkey, Drake, Drake May, you already got a quarterback. Uh Zay Flowers, RJ Harvey, Jameson Williams, Byshell Tootin. Tootin Tutin.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

So what are you thinking, Weston?

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Um, okay, well, a couple things here.

unknown 53:57

Obviously, I already have a quarterback.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Um, I am not a huge believer in the thrower of of um what's his face?

SPEAKER_04 54:05

Um I wouldn't think you'd take another quarterback yet, anyway.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

So No, no, no. Of um Lamar.

SPEAKER_04 54:11

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

Um so there's two guys actually that I'm looking at that are really, really high on my list.

unknown 54:20

Devontae Smith uh uh Devontae Smith without AJ there and a new offensive coordinator seems like it's wheels up. Okay. And a Mecca, a big boo without Evans there says really, really, really good things for me.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

Um but I need a running back, so I'm in this really, really odd space.

SPEAKER_04 54:38

But I can tell you if you're gonna if you're gonna play the game, um team one and and myself both have two running backs already.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

Yeah. But team one could easily get two more running backs.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

They could, but I'll be honest, if you're you're probably better off getting your running back and hoping you get your wide receiver coming back. Not not it's not to say I won't take Devonta Smith, because I very well might. I haven't decided yet, but it is decided.

SPEAKER_00 55:03

But I don't want, yeah, I'm not in for Harvey. Tootin is a question mark, so I mean I'm already down past, you know, I'm down to I'm down to Swift at that point, or Junkins, which I like both of them this year, and I'm happy taking them.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

Um I I I personally love Bioshell Tutin this year. I think he's gonna be I think he's he's gonna have a monster year with uh Travis Atien Jr. gone.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

Yeah. It just is it nothing's proven, and for my number one running back, that's a little scary.

SPEAKER_04 55:33

I'll be honest, it's not gonna get more proven as you get further down.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

I mean Yeah. You're you're probably right. Um you know, you're probably right. It doesn't mean you are right. Nope, it does not. I'm gonna go with the talent and hope he has a first eight weeks as an entire season like he did last year. I'm gonna go uh a big boo.

SPEAKER_04 56:01

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

I like that pick. All right.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Um I need to get some wide receivers. Uh actually, I just need to get one here, though. Um tempted to go Drake May, stacking with AJ Brown. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

Um Team One could steal that from you.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

They could. I just don't know if I care enough and want to take a quarterback this early. There's so many quarterbacks late in this draft this year that I'm plenty happy taking that I just don't think it's worth the upside.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

I don't the difference I just don't think is there. Is there a wide receiver though that's worth more than getting the stack?

SPEAKER_04 56:33

Yeah, because I can just build another stack later. True. There's plenty of other guys I can go stack. I could stack Brock Purdy, Mike Evans, I could go stack Christian Watson, Jordan Love. I could I mean I could I could list off five, six guys that I haven't even gotten drafted yet. You know, I could stack my chat. I'm not gonna take McConkie. I love Ladd McConkey. Their offense, they have too many weapons, and it's it it becomes a problem. Even with Keenan Allen not there, and there's still a chance he could come back. Yeah. Um their offense just scares me because they have Quench Quentin Johnston, they have Trey Harris, they've got Orla Aronde Gadsen, they've picked up um David Njoku, they've got Amari and Hampshire. They just have so many other weapons that he will have games where he does really well. But he will also have games where he does nothing. So I don't want that as my wide receiver, too. Um I will be honest, I'm gonna go Devonta Smith because he's the number one there now.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

You know what's great? You found two number ones with AJ Brown, Devonta Smith. I did you could never say that last year, but you can this year.

SPEAKER_04 57:39

Yeah. Yeah, neither one was an well, actually, AJ Brown was a number one.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

AJ Brown was a number one.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

Because where did he end up? He ended up to uh he was wide receiver 11 in full full point PPR. So right there.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

As an owner of AJ Brown, it didn't feel it's painful.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

He had monster games and then he disappeared for a couple weeks. So I I totally agree. I I think that will get better with New England, though. That that that was Jalen Hurts and the Eagles crap offense.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

Um, okay, so in there, Ladd McConkey goes, then Zay Flowers coming back around. See, I told you, I told you the wide receivers go, Weston, though. Not the running backs.

SPEAKER_00 58:17

I'm I'm yeah, I'm happy with I'm happy with how this is turning out.

SPEAKER_04 58:21

So do you want Drake made now, Justin? No, no. I don't want Drake May now. So what I'm between is Byshell Tutin and potentially Tyler Warren. Because Tyler Warren is the last of the tight ends before there's a massive drop-off. I disagree. I know you like Harold Fannon, Bobby, but you're the only one that likes Harold Fannon that much.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

Harold Fannon finished his tight end six as a rookie last year.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

I understand that.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

I believe Warren was five.

SPEAKER_04 58:49

Harold Fannon also won't be there when it comes back to me. So either I take the guy I want now, or neither of them will be there next time I pick.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Yeah, PPR Tyler Warren was four or five.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

Uh just four and five.

SPEAKER_04 59:04

Also for news. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't want him. Uh also, also on the that news front, though, um, Daniel Jones was fully participating in OTAs. Oh, that's a big deal. That's a big deal. Only seven on sevens, but he's still out there throwing the ball and fully participating. So that's that's promising for Tyler Warren because Jonathan Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Bobby loves that.

SPEAKER_04 59:26

Yeah. So I'm gonna take Tyler Warren because I I want to get that tight end um one of the top four, because after that, I know Bobby thinks Fannin's right there, and he is, but he's not he's not in that same tier as those four to me with the upside. I'd it has to do with he's on the Browns, Bobby.

SPEAKER_02 59:42

Yeah, and he led the team in receptions, and I still think he will again this year.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

He might, but it's not gonna be pretty.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

He was tight end six, and there wasn't a very big drop-off.

SPEAKER_04 59:54

All right, Weston, you are up.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

Yeah, what are you thinking, Weston?

SPEAKER_04 59:57

You've got JSN, Joe, Josh Allen, Brock Bowers, Amika Bugboo, and you got all those running backs you didn't like, they're all back.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Tootin's still there for you. Tyler Warren literally had one and a half more points in full point PPR.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

I mean, that's how close they were, is my point.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

Again, that's fine. And he was doing better earlier in the season with Daniel Jones, and when Daniel Jones went out, his production went down.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:23

So I'm gonna I'm gonna stat drop you here for a second because I'm an owner of RJ Harvey, so I listen closely.

unknown 1:00:29

I think his explosive rate last year was 51 of 54.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

Yeah, his 10 yard runs or greater were like 48 of 54 of those who qualified.

unknown 1:00:39

I have zero interest in Harvey, and unfortunately, I don't think he's even a tradable asset in the in the where I own him.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:46

Yeah, I think I think Swift is the number will end up being the number two by the end of the year. By the end of the year, probably.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

So I'm between total and trusting you guys, or huge junkins, and hoping that that offense actually does something with a whole bunch of rookies in your two players. That's that's questionable.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

Never feels good drafting Cleveland. No, it doesn't feel like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:12

I think the Jaguars offense is gonna be absolutely insane. So I guess I'm just gonna take uh Tutan and uh I'll listen to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:21

Okay. You know what we need to do, Bobby? This from now from from our all every mock draft we do, we need to take a picture of our team, keep it for the year, and look at it into the end of the year and see how it actually turned out. Oh, I'd love that. That'd be so awesome. So, okay, we gotta we gotta do that. We gotta remember to do that. Take a snapshot. Yeah, stick a snap, snapshot him and keep them.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

This is tough. I I go white, I could go anywhere here. I have one. Yeah, you got two wide house, two running backs. Flexibility.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

Kicker. We're not even having we don't even have kickers. You could draft a kicker. You could search them up.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

I took a great kicker. No, um let's see. I I I am with you, Justin, when it comes to quarterbacks are too early here.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:59

I I yeah, there's just too many I like. That's that's ultimately what it came down to.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

Not in a six-point passing touchdown league.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

Even at a four-point, there's just too many I like. Yeah, and I'm not willing to.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Yeah, but at a four-point, it really does. The value of Josh Allen. Even Drake May runs a bit more. So a little bit more there. Um man, I'll tell you, this is tough. Terry McLaurin's getting a little old, and I feel like he could easily drop off this year. Could Jameson Williams um had a good year, but I think that's about his ceiling was last year. I agree. RJ Harvey, Weston already touched on.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:32

Yeah, he was the number 12 wide receiver last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

Joe Burrow is great when he plays more than, you know, 10 games.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:38

He's usually an every other year guy. He feels this year is gonna be really good.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:43

DeAndre Swift, I I agree with you, Weston. I think Kyle Manunguy is that guy that is gonna win that. DJ Moore in Buffalo.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:50

Why don't you go take Harold Fannon then, Bobby? Get your tight end. He's not gonna come back around.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

I will.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:57

I was like, just if you if you think he's that good, then now's the time to take it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

I'll take Harold Fannon. What is Team Eight doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:04

He won't make it past 12. All right. So RJ Harvey goes next. Drake May. Team seven is rolling still with those wide receivers, picked up their fifth with Jamison Williams, and team eight. Team eight's got yeah five running backs, Quinchon Judkins.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:18

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:19

It's gonna be well, the the good news is you're gonna know where some you know players are gonna be going here. Uh team nine picked up Carnell Tate, Terry McLaurin, and then DeAndre Swift. Ryan, you are up. You have CeeDee Lamb, Ashton Genty, Tetarola McMillan, and Cam Scattaboo. Yep, world is my oyster here. Um you're well balanced, yeah. You can pretty much do whatever you want. Yeah. Little Joey B?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

Could. You did you did him last time, I think. I think I actually have him. I picked him last time. Taking him in a mock trap already. Um it is it is tempting just because it does it does drop off again after him. Sure. Uh, let's see here. What do I want? What do I want? I don't really want tight end. I'll get that next round. Or not the next round, but the round after. Um, I think I'm gonna go Montgomery for my first pick. David Montgomery.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:05

I have no problem with that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:06

Yeah, I'm gonna go down a little bit. I think that's a he's a really good pickup for what was that, Weston?

unknown 1:04:12

Yeah, I like that pick a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

Um it's gonna be the feature back. I kind of want to keep it balanced, go wide receiver here. Coco Watson? That could be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

Yeah, I don't know if that's got good upside too, though, as the true pack of number one.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:29

I'm I'm gonna go with the old old man and and go Mike Evans there. That's a good pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

He'll have he'll be the touchdown guy early in the season without John Kittle being there. As my as for a third wide receiver, I'm pretty happy. As much as George Kittle says he's going to play week one. I'm like, if he somehow plays week one after a torn Achilles, tearing it in like week 17 or 18, that's insane.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:50

Yeah, yeah. He's hopping around on the field.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

Yeah. Uh Roma Dunze goes next. Joe Burrow, uh, who stacked uh team 10 stacked him with T. Higgins, Christian Watson, DJ Moore, Christian Watson went earlier than I thought. Uh DJ Moore, Jaden Daniels, Ramondre Stevenson, and Jalen Warren. Bobby, you are up. Two running backs, two tight ends, two wide receivers and one tight end.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:13

Yeah. Um, you know, if I wanted to have taken Fannon, I probably would have taken Kraft here. Uh, yeah, well, yeah. I like where he's at a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

He he is supposed to be ready for week one.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

I'm really looking at best, you know, running back wide receiver on the board who I like. I'm gonna go with Kyle Menungai.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

I think he's going to be the touchdown guy all year no matter what. So I think he sniped Weston too. He probably wanted him. So I'll take Kyle Manungai there. Actually, no. No, you didn't?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:48

Actually, no. I I do I think he'll be the number one guy, or do I think Swift will completely cede that at number one?

unknown 1:05:56

I think he'll have a lot of like two yard touchdowns, he's gonna steal. I think it's gonna be a top twenty back, top eighteen back. No, I do not.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:05

Okay.

unknown 1:06:05

I don't think either of them are the top eighteen, so I don't really want to go.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:09

Okay.

unknown 1:06:10

Um, I will take a step back here, and uh I will admit a a fault in my draft strategy, considering Tuckercraft and Kyle Piss are here. Oh, sure. That was early.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:27

Um I do think that Brock is a tier above them, but not like a full head over heels over here considering that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:34

I think he is, but I think Tuckercraft could could get to that level if he plays a full season. So yeah.

unknown 1:06:43

Yeah. Um so I'm in an interesting situation here. I probably need another running back, um, but I don't like what's out there in front of me. Um so I I do I just go for a flex, like a really strong wide receiver flex player, um, and that would be looking at the the likes of uh DK Metcalf with Aaron Rodgers' last year, a Michael Wilson gets bad in Arizona.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

Um weird position.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

Yeah, I don't don't envy a hero.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:21

You could go second quarterback with Jalen Hurts.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

That seems reasonable.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:26

Um could start rolling the dice and just start drafting running uh rookies. Yeah. Jordan Tyson's there. Yeah. Maybe one of them is.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

Yeah, a rookie with a second year quarterback, I'm not sure I'm in love with.

unknown 1:07:39

I just this is a really interesting point for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:42

Tony Pollard, I don't think is is he's a shared back, so it's not like a guaranteed thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:47

No, they're all shared backs now.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:49

Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm between DK and Michael Wilson.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:53

Is Donald a shared running back? He split it?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:56

Oh Jalen Warren. No, Rico, yeah, Rico Donald's in Pittsburgh with Jalen Warren.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:04

Given the evidence of last year, Michael Wilson got oh yeah, and I didn't pick Trey McBride. I for thought for a second I had Trey McBride. I'll take Wilson here. I'll think of Dart though.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Did Marvin Harrison go? No. Michael Wilson is ahead of Marvin Harrison now.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:20

Oh, that's a terrible pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:23

Alright. Uh I mean I Michael Wilson did perform better last year, but Marvin Harrison missed almost every one of those games, too, that he played well in. So um that was a bad pick. I'm I'm curious to see how that one pla plays out this year. I'm I'm personally just kind of avoiding the whole situation unless it falls late enough where I'm like, okay, I'll take the chance on the already stacked position.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

Yeah. Which I mean, that's the that's a third guy, so yeah, it's not stacked enough for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:50

There's other guys I like more. Um what are you thinking, Justin? So right now, I I'm thinking the team between me is is probably gonna go one and one or even potentially a quarterback here.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

So I'm gonna try to take I imagine they take Hertz if he's still available.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:04

I think I can get the running backs I want soon after this. So I think I'm gonna go wide receiver here. Um boy, do I want to go that down that far? Yeah, I think I do. I'm gonna take the chance because he's my third wide receiver. I'm gonna go Brian Thomas Jr. Because I think I truly think he has a bounce back year this year. They have a lot of weapons, and it and that scares me a little bit. Um, a lot of mouths defeat, but I I think he's got a chance there. Uh next one, Jordan Tyson, and then Jalen Hurts, which I figured that Jalen Hurts would be going in there, which is fine by me. Um I want to come back around and take a running back here. Um I I'm a little concerned.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:50

Yeah, just sorry, Brian Thomas. I should have chosen, I should have chosen. Like that's the pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:57

He's a little further down, so it's easy to it's it's hard, it's easy to miss him if you're not looking, you know. If you don't like dig through deep either, you it's easy to miss some of those guys. Um, I I'm actually gonna go reach down a little bit again, and I'm gonna go take Chuba Hubbard from Carolina. Okay.

unknown 1:10:17

Oh, man. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

That's a really good one. Uh I'm I'm a little concerned Jonathan Brooks might come back and s and steal a little bit of his uh carries, but uh again, Jonathan Brooks hasn't proven he can actually stay healthy at all, so there there is that risk he's hurt or just can't play, and doesn't matter.

unknown 1:10:34

So quietly, this worked out okay. Um I had an ace in the hole, and I am going to use it before I lose it.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:43

Um there's still a number one no questions asked, in my opinion, starting running back. On a very good offense with a very good head coach, and I'm going to take him and hope that he has one more year in the bag. JK Dobbins.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

Oh, Aaron Jones.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

Oh, alright. We'll see. I don't know. I'm real. When you were talking Weston, I was scrolling the list and I was like, who's he who am I missing? Same, same.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

Sorry?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

Hey, Bobby, what are you thinking?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:12

Um Yeah, I you know, that's that's fine with me, Aaron Jones. I hope he lives up to spot seven uh pick three uh this year. I hope he has a monster year for you. Um looking at this. I'm looking wide receiver a little bit, um, but I also don't want to box myself in. But wide receiver for me, uh this is Marvin Harrison Jr. for me. Um that fits my mold a little bit with Nico and James. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:40

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:42

Marvin Harrison.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:43

So Tucker Kraft, or sorry, Cortland Sutton goes next, then Tucker Kraft, then Mikai Lemon. Oh, team seven did uh get a quarterback finally in there, and team eight uh finally strayed away from those running backs.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:53

Yeah, two rounds.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:55

Last two rounds. Uh they took Kyle Pitts this round, uh Jackson Dart, DK Metcalf, Sam Laporta. Ryan's some tight ends went on you there.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:01

I know. I was kind of hoping one of those guys would uh would make it to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:06

Ryan, remember what I happened to me last draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:08

I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:08

I'm I punted on the tight end and it just kept getting sniped every time I came through.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:13

Uh you can think like, oh well, next time it'll be fine. The guy will be there.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

It did not work out at all, Bobby. I ended up with like uh Mark Andrews. I I think I got him. Which I was fine with. Did I get Mark Andrews?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Likely with the Giants, maybe?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:28

No, he went before that. I was gonna take to have a good year.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

I don't I don't care what you guys say. Dude's 30 years old.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:35

Oh, yeah, he'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:37

A nice little year.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:39

Yeah, he'll be fine, but uh it was it I kept having guys that I wanted, and it just they kept getting sniped along the way. It was quite unfortunate.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:47

Hmm. I don't I don't know about this pick. I mean the one one player I was gonna I was I was planning on getting was a tight end, so I think I'll do that first. No, Ryan, I went Brenton Strange. I'm going Dalton as you look back.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:01

I went Brenton Strange.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

It was like the end of the draft.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:03

I'm okay with that, though. Brenton Strange, I think, is undervalued.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:06

It was alright. Um, so I got I got Dalton Kincaid for my tight end. Yep. Um next pick. I could go Herbert to kind of finish up all my starters. Maybe I do that. Because then there's Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence. I go Dak. Dak and Stack with C D I could go Dak with CD. Maybe that's a wish.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:28

Dak and Stack with CD is a good move there.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:30

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:32

That that would be better to in my mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:34

Yeah, I think I think I do that. He's your number one wide receiver.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:37

That's a good stack to have.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:39

Um, next goes Rico Dowdle, then Jacoby Myers, Blake Coram, Justin Herbert, Aronde Gadson, Tony Pollard, and Caleb Williams.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:47

You see, I was thinking about Jacoby Myers for my pick, but I feel good about Dak. I feel good about Dick. Bobby? Telling myself that I feel good about Dick.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

Yeah. No, I love T Law, but no, I'm not gonna go with that. Trevor Bank? Um, not gonna take quarterback either yet. That was the same person. I just used different names.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:09

It's code name for one. Which one? We don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:14

I'm probably leaning towards Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:20

Yeah, you got three running backs, three wide receivers, and a tight end currently.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:24

I do four picks left.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:26

Yeah, you know what? I'm just gonna do it. T Law. No. Uh he's gonna be healthy week one, I'll take him. Give me Patrick Mahomes. Patty Mahomes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

All right. No weapons, but he's got something. He's got a running back now.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:41

That doesn't help him. In terms of like Patrick.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:44

That's got Rachi Wright and you know, 38-year-old Travis Kelsey. Does he have Rachi Rice though? He's not suspended at any games at all. Yet. No, he won't be either. The NFL came out and said there's no disciplinary action kind of.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:56

That doesn't mean he can't do something stupid before the season starts.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:00

That's also possible, but as of right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:04

He might speed on his way to training camp.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:08

But I'll take Patrick Mahomes. I think he's gonna bounce back here. I think it's worthy of a late eighth round pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

Alright, Weston, you've got uh three wide receivers, two running backs, a quarterback, and a tight end.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:20

Yeah, looking pretty balanced, actually.

unknown 1:15:23

It came back around, and uh I don't know, man. If he just stays if he stays healthy, which is the biggest question mark.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:30

JK?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:32

JK, I mean he's a plug-and play, and he's you know, gosh.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:38

That's who I thought you were gonna take last round, actually.

unknown 1:15:40

So JK and and Aaron Jones, like one of them is gonna end up hurt or I don't know, dying on the field of some, you know, crazy thing. So at least I have a backup, you know, at least I have a you know a number one.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

They're they're both they're lead back, so I'll take it. You know, this late, I'll take a lead back.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:59

Yeah, I get you. Um, okay. So I have a tight end, I have three wide receivers, three running backs, I need a quarterback. I am still plenty happy punting for now. There are like five guys I still like. So I'm I'm holding off for now. Next two picks will not be quarterback for me. So what are you leaning towards now? So I'm leaning between Alec Pierce, but I already have Tyler Warren, so I don't know if I want to lay that much at Daniel Jones' feet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:27

A lot for one bye week, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:28

Feels a little risky. Um I'm tempted to go. Okay, I gotta.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

You got T Low Bryan Thomas daddy.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:35

I do have that, but I'm not going to do that. Um, I want to get one more running back. It's just a matter of do I do it now or do I wait. Um I think I'm gonna wait till.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:44

What are you thinking about running? Where are you thinking running back? Because there's a there's an ace in the hole that I think is gonna have a good year, but where are you thinking?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:51

Uh my guys are all way lower that I'm looking at. Yeah, so is mine. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:57

I have one that's low that I think is uh has a really good chance to have a good year.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:01

I was thinking Jordan Mason, potentially. But that kind of flies in the face of your Aaron Jones stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:07

No way.

unknown 1:17:08

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:09

Yeah. Um potentially uh Jakori Krosky Merritt. Um or even you know, I'm the opposite.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:18

I'm the opposite. I'm I'm Rashad White in Washington. I think Rashad White takes that that lead back.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:24

Yeah, I mean you're you're taking your shot if you're going this late and you're thinking they're gonna have a good offense. What about K-tron Allen? He's a rookie running back for Washington. No thanks. Um, and then at wide receiver, I'm you know, I'm looking at the left here. Um I'm I'll stand with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

Catron, we believe.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:45

I'm gonna go Quentin Johnston, who has quietly been really good the last couple years, actually.

unknown 1:17:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:54

And then Ricky Pearsall and Alec Pierce go.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

Yep, that's fine. I I I wasn't willing to do the extra stack on the Colts there.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:02

Sure. Um Ricky Pearsall at all. No. No? You don't like him?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:07

I I had him last year a little bit, and so I followed him pretty closely. Um he did really well week one, and he did okay week two, then he got hurt. Um, week one, Juwan Johnson wasn't there. Um he was good because he got peppered with a lot of extra targets, and then ultimately got peppered with spray. No, he got shot earlier. That was the couple years ago. Yeah, Ricky got shot at peppered with lead. I mean, you could draft Brian Robinson and uh Ricky Pearsall and get all the guys that have been shot. You could?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:42

You could. Damn. These these boys take a bullet bullets out there, bro. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:47

If they can take a bullet, they gotta be good at getting hit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:50

See, for me, I wouldn't name my team bullet catcher.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:55

I mean Bobby, I feel like you should draft them both this year and just name one team that for the fun of it. Just be willing to take it. Um, I'm gonna go uh you can still take T Wall here. I'm not going to. I don't want to. Um I ooh, you know what? I gosh darn it. I'm gonna go Jadarian Price. I'm okay with that. I think that's a good pick. My fourth running back. I'm I'm I'm good taking a rookie. He won't probably start right away. Okay, but he he should work in a bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:28

Sharps is hurt, isn't he? So Sharps.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:29

Sharps hurt, but I I honestly I think Emmanuel Wilson slash um someone else is gonna be taking at least half the carries to start the year.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:37

Yeah, but you know, could work could work out towards the end of the year or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

If he shows that upside, like there's a chance he goes crazy. Well that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

Yeah, Charbonnet has never been more than the second guy in his career. So, yeah, I mean, even if even when Charbonnet comes back, he may just fall back into that same role as a second guy. Jordarian Price very well could take the Kenneth Walker role. So we'll see. All right, Weston, you're up.

unknown 1:20:11

Yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:12

Um took two running backs in a row that are, you know, one's gonna fill in for the other after one leg falls off. So um I have a little trust that uh uh little miniman in in Minnesota is gonna research that uh that offense.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:30

Addison?

unknown 1:20:31

And that means Jordan Addison, I that means Addison is I mean, a topic 20 guy. I'll take a chance on it. Um I think Mark Washington and Godwin are good choices too.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:45

Yeah, take Addison here. Yeah, okay. I think all three are.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:49

I know Bobby was probably looking at him. I was. I I like Addison there a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:53

Um The guys that I have choices with, like the guys at the top of the list were like T Law and a bunch of Tide.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:02

Yeah, well, right. You don't need either of them, so right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:06

Yeah, I think for me here, I am going to I think Jeremiah Love might struggle a little bit in Arizona to start. And I like Tyler Algier here.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:20

Um I think Tyler Algier was very good, and Atlanta is the two back. I think he's gonna get more carries.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:26

You didn't want James Conner?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:28

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

So Team Five went for their second quarterback in a row with uh Trevor Lawrence, and Dallas Goddard went. Uh Brian Robinson, uh, Chris Godwin, Parker Washington, uh Hunter Henry, Jake Ferguson, and Ryan, you are up. You have your quarterback, you have your tight end, and you have three of each running backs and wide receivers. Well balanced, yeah, ready to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:50

Whatever I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:52

I do what I want. Do what I want.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:54

Um, let's see here. What do I what am I feeling? A player. Probably. I'm gonna guess a wide receiver or a running back. Probably as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:03

I would think that probably fits.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:05

Unless he wants to take Mark, he could have Mark Andrews as a second tight end, though, if you wanted to play the field.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:10

I think I I think for the one first pick, I think I go with Kenny Gainwall. Actually, Ryan, before you go any further, you could take George Kittle as your second tight end. I could. For the upside when he comes if he were to come back and come back healthy.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:22

Yeah, I mean Dalton Kincaid's been pretty healthy in his career, right? Well, actually, no, he played 12 games last year, 13 years, 13 games for Kenny Gainwall, I think is by the way, is a great pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:33

Um, I like him. He he did really well last year. I almost took him over Janerian Price. Oh, just for reference. He he was on in my thought process.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:44

That's terrific.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:46

I know. Yeah, you know what, you know what, Justin? I'm not to just follow your lead, but I I will take George Kittle here. To me, that it probably does a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:56

And Dalton Kincaid's never really proven that he's like the guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:59

No, and I feel pretty good about I feel pretty good about the other guys I've drafted in the wide receiver running back spots. So I think I'm alright going double tight end.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Okay. Uh Brock Purdy goes next, then James Conner, also in Arizona, third Arizona running back to be drafted. Could have taken Purdy too. Dalton Schultz, Mark Andrews, Jakori Krosky Merritt, Michael Pittman, and Brenton Strange. Yeah, I'm uh get Travis Kelsey stacking with Patty Patty Mahomes.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:27

Definitely something I want to do. I'm gonna take more of an upside pick here, though. I'm gonna go Jaden Reed. I think that's yeah. Um I think there's more upside with Jaden Reed.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:35

Uh make sure. Kelsey. There's less target Dobbs. Third tight end last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:40

Yeah, I understand. Well, Jaden Reed was hurt most last year, too. Um I like Jaden Reed. I'm hoping Kelsey comes back around and he's there. If he is, great, that'll be my last pick. If not. He will be. That's alright. He will be.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:51

Weston, you're up. What are you thinking? Yeah, that Weston, they're challenging you not to take Travis Kelsey. He has Brock Bauer, he's not taking Travis Kelsey.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:01

Oh, oh, wait a second. Um, wait a second. I I I mean, like, look at my options here.

unknown 1:24:09

Like, why would I not consider at minimum like a Travis Kelsey? And I don't know, man. Like I'm looking at I'm looking at my options.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:19

Um I mean, Wandale, I want nothing to do with him. I already have a quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:24

I mean, it's I think I think Wandale's actually a decent option late this year in the draft. Charbonnet is still there. So Wandale Robinson now has um his old offensive coordinator and Brian Dable as his or his old head coach as his new offensive coordinator, and Wandale Robinson continued to get peppered with targets for the Giants. He had a hundred 140 targets the last two seasons with the Giants.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:51

What's the outlook on Scatterbro and his return?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

He's gonna play week one. He's already doing backflips in softball games. He did a backflip during a charity softball game. I think his leg's fine.

unknown 1:25:03

Wasn't he limping during that softball game?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:06

I saw that. No, that was Malik Neighbors. That was Malik Neighbors.

unknown 1:25:09

Oh, sick, sick, yeah, alright. Well, glad I asked that question.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:12

Cam Scadaboo took the first pitch, hit a home run, sprinted around the bases, did a backflip into home plate.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:19

Alright, cool. Well, uh, let's allow it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:23

Yeah, I'll take Tracy. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:27

Alright, I guess I'm I'm between like Travis, Elsie, Wandale, Robinson, and I don't know, Shapir. That would by the way, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:39

I mean, if you're looking at if you're looking for another running back, Weston, I mean, look at like Woody Marks. I mean, maybe David Montgomery doesn't pan out, and he isn't the guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:48

Um Jordan Maybe Aaron Aaron Jones doesn't pan out and Jordan Mason has to fill in after he loses a leg on the field.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:56

Correct. Jordan Mason. Um no, this is my ace in the hole.

unknown 1:26:01

What am I thinking?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:02

I am drafting him and I'm not gonna be right back.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:03

Ricard White, yeah. We've been talking about Ricard White.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:06

Rakad Wright's the number one there.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:08

Oh, sure he is. Okay. I actually agree with him there. He is the number one. Maybe. And I I'm uh I'm gonna punt quarterback to my last pick here. Okay, because there's no reason to take one right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:18

Um team one takes all of them left.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:21

I'm telling you right now, I don't feel great about the running backs that are left at this point. Um you guys don't like Charbonnet? I mean, I know he's hurt right now. I just took Jadarian Price. I'm gonna take the bet that Price is the guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:32

You could really just seal that up. You can have it no matter what. I don't need to.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:37

Um, and so from here, I'm gonna take a shot on a wide receiver that I think is gonna be out there more than the guy Bobby took, Matthew Golden. He'll be out, he'll be out there in two wide receiver sets more than Jaden Reed will be. Because Jaden Reed's never been out there for two wide receiver sets.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:53

Um, Juwan Johnson goes next, then Wandale Robinson. So I need to take a quarterback here.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:58

Yep. Finish out through roster.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:00

So the question is who do I want?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:02

I can go Jordan Love and Golden.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:05

Could. Um, so I've got Devontae Smith, AJ Brown, Brian Thomas, Quentin Johnston. So I can't get any of those guys stacks. I could stack Jordan Love. Um I think Matthew Stafford regresses a little bit from last year with what he put up because it was obscene. The the the proficiency that he played at last year. That doesn't happen typically for pocket passing quarterbacks.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:28

It is pretty crazy though that like the third ranked wide receiver quarterback last year is like he's still there currently.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:34

Yeah. Yeah. Matthew Stafford. Yeah, yeah. He was three last year. Take Jordan Love. The same thing happened with Tom Brady at the end. Here is like I can't keep happening. I'm I'm going to I am going to take Jordan Love because of the chance that Josh Jacobs isn't out there and they don't run the ball as much. Sure. For part at least to start the year. Um, and obviously at this point I drafted him late enough, I'm willing to flex and flip to somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:55

So your thoughts at all with golf?

unknown 1:27:58

I mean, that's a

SPEAKER_04 1:28:11

I'm not offering. I I have Joe Burrow and Matthew Stafford. I have no reason to make it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:15

If anyone's interested in Jordan Love, um Weston. Throwing it out there. Throwing it out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:21

I have Lamar and Bonex, so I I and I'm probably in tank mode. If I can get that 27 pick back, I'm gonna go O in the world you sell. Don't you worry about me.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:34

Noise. Alright. Weston, what are you taking? Last pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:39

Um yeah, a couple interesting options here, actually.

unknown 1:28:45

Um the wide receiver position. Um Shakir is an interesting, like late, late, late stat with Allen. Um but I also think Higgins, Jane Higgins is the number two, and that could be a larger offense behind ego. I I believe he's the number two, and I don't think there's any competition anymore. Perk is gone. So if if C2 is healthy and back to, you know, 4,000 plus yards could be good. Um that's just gonna be hopeful because I own him in the Dynasty League as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:23

I also Justin knows that I'm super high on Josh Josh Downs is here as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:27

I think Josh Downs is a great pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:30

I'm between honestly, I'm between Higgins and Downs. Um I don't trust either of their quarterbacks all that much.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:40

I'll just I would rather have Downs than Higgins. Higgins has there's so many other guys on that team potentially. I mean, you've got Jalen Knoll, uh Tank Dell is supposed to come back at some point this year. Oh, is he?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:51

Is he?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:52

Yeah. So I mean you you're talking there's four wide receivers in Houston. CJ Stroud can barely support Nico Collins as it is. I I just don't I don't see how he supports another fantasy relevant wide receiver.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:05

So where are you at? Where are you at, Justin, with between Downs and Shakir? Because they're they're kind of that like they they're kind they they fit that.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:13

So here's the question. Does your team need consistency or does it need upside? Because if it needs consistency and a steady, a steady point garner, then you take Shakir. If you need upside and potential like boom play, you take Josh Downs, no brainer.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:31

It all depends on what Josh Downs is at the end of the year.

unknown 1:30:35

I'm I'm just gonna I'm gonna stand up business. I think Downs, I want Downs in every league this year.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:40

I'm gonna stand up business. I think he's a top 24 wide receiver at the end of the year. That's the probably the right pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:46

So Bobby takes or Weston takes Josh Downs, Bobby?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:49

That's a no-brainer.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:50

Travis Kelsey, you can stack him with Patty Mahomes.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:52

It's a no-brainer for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:54

Uh Romeo Dobbs goes next, then Matt Stafford, Bo Nicks, Zach Charbonnet, Kenyon Sadiq, Isaiah Likely, Woody Marks, and Weston. Or no, sorry, Weston, Ryan, you're gonna wrap it all up.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:06

Take Stefan takes.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:08

No, I will take the consistent pick here. Khalil Shakir. And I will end the draft with Khalil Shakir. To be fair, you kind of needed another wide receiver. So he's my fourth guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:18

Okay. Uh Ryan. At the number 12 spot, you took CeeDee Lamb, Ashton Genty, Tetterall McMillan Millen, Cam Scadaboo, David Montgomery, uh Dalton Kincaid, Dak Prescott, Kenny Gainwell, George Kittle, and Khalil Shakir. And Mike Evans. I said Mike Evans, didn't I? No. Oh, I missed it. I'm sorry. Mike Evans in there as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:40

Sorry. Yeah, I feel alright about it. It's always kind of a problem with being at the end of a draft, is you kind of have to reach sometimes for a position. I don't see a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:50

The the tricky part is you have to go after the players you like.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:53

Yeah. But I I think I think this team would do alright. Okay. I think it's a good team.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:59

Ted Evans, Ted Evans Dak, like that there's huge upside.

unknown 1:32:04

Like, I I I like it. I like what you did at the 12th spot.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:08

Yeah, and you're right. Um, but I think it's I think it's good, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:11

I I would have gone differently than Genty uh uh at 201, personally. I would have probably gone Saquon um if you're gonna go running back there.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:19

Um that's just my my personal preference. Um, but really, other than that, that's about the only thing I'd majorly change. Earlier on, it's easier to say you know you change something big.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:30

Yeah, and that would that was I was definitely considering going with a more older experienced uh running back who is especially on a better team, of all things.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:39

So Bobby, at the fourth pick, chick Jonathan Taylor, Nico Collins, Brees Hall, Jalen Waddell, Harold Fannon, Kyle Menungai, Marvin Harrison Jr., Patrick Mahomes, Tyler Elgier, Jaden Reed, and Travis Kelsey. Any regrets, Bobby? Favorite pick?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:56

Uh I think I probably took Monungai a little early. Sure. But getting Harrison the next round felt better about the Menungai. Yeah, for sure, yeah. Um other than that, not really. I mean, I feel like I picked to my spot, which was like, hey, alright, I'm gonna get Jonathan Taylor, great. And then I came back and I took Nico, who is the best wide receiver I could get at that spot.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:19

And I'm just I don't love spot four for picking, but I I yeah, I don't I don't you're kind of missing out on the top tier of talent.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:27

Yep. I I I feel like I picked a lot of guys that have a lot of upside for the year.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:32

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:32

Like like Brees Hall, I think is going to be a stud this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:36

Yeah, I I don't I'll take that same bet with you again, Bobby, that we had last year if you really want to go for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:44

Do you still like the fan and pick, even though you got Kelsey at the end of the draft?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:48

Oh, yeah. The Marvin Algier Reed. Those are yeah, those are good. Those are really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:56

Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't know if I have any major ones I would have I would have flipped for you. I mean, maybe Vangay, you know, I probably would have gone like a Chuba, which I took slightly after that, just because he's for sure the starter, at least to start the year.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:09

Um, so that's about all I have, really. I mean, it is what it is, kind of there's nothing glaring.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:15

Weston, uh the computer auto drafted for you, JSN to start. Um uh then you got Josh Allen, Brock Bowers, Amika Abuka, uh Byshal Tutan, Michael Wilson, Aaron Jones, J.K. Dobbins, Jordan Addison, Rakad White, and Josh Downs. Any thoughts, regrets?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:35

I'll give you my I'll give you my real thoughts.

unknown 1:34:37

I really like how it turned out. If I could have gotten Jamar Chase in the three-spot, sure would be head over heels for this, but I wasn't here.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:47

I would have taken Jamar Chase and had a chance to take Jamar Chase, and I feel like this would be amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:55

I I just don't think JSN can do it again, especially off the Super Bowl runs.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:01

He's, you know, three, four, five more weeks of of training and another game.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:06

It just it's a lot more. I think Jamar's gonna have a better year.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:09

So we we were we were gonna vote, and just the vote was gonna win to for who who you were gonna get picked. Um Bobby and Ryan both voted for Jor uh Jonathan Taylor. Uh I was gonna vote for Chase, uh, but then I realized we could auto-pick it, and I was like, oh, that's probably more impartial.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:29

I would have uh sorry, Bobby, I would have not liked Taylor in a three-spot there.

unknown 1:35:33

Chase would have been my uh answer. Chase then, if he has a a good year, this team I think is still gonna stand out.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:40

I I have positional advantages, and then I've got you know potential number one running backs late.

unknown 1:35:46

I'll take it.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:47

Cool. Now I think especially if you guys can stay healthy.

unknown 1:35:50

I did not know Marvin was still there. I would have never chose that pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:54

Um I get ya. Um all right, so with the number two pick, which by the way, um I think I did I have the number one pick last time, Ryan, somehow? I or did I have three? I think I had three or four.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:07

I I it was you were definitely early. I don't remember what I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:10

I think I had three or four. I think I had three. Um I didn't like three as much. I I like one or two because I'll be honest, with the way the draft seemed to fall to me, the running backs go early. And I want one of the really good ones. So I'm good with honestly, two. If I had to pick my spot, I'd pick two. Because I don't really care which one I get out of one or two.

unknown 1:36:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:30

Bijan or Jameer Gibbs, I think either one could have be the guy this year. If I if I'm gonna make the guess. So I took Jameer Gibbs with the second pick, AJ Brown, Derek Henry, Devonta Smith, Tyler Warren, Brian Thomas Jr., Chuba Hubbard, Quentin Johnston, Jadarian Price, Matthew Golden, and Jordan Love. Um I'm indifferent on the quarterback. I I I could have gone like four different ways and I would be just the same. I I only did it because I had Matthew Golden.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:58

Um outside of that, I I liked the AJ Brown. Devonta Smith in the fourth round, to be honest, was was I was surprised he was still there. So um any thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:12

No, I yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:14

Okay, what's your thoughts, Wesson?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:16

Go ahead, Bobby.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:17

No, no, I'm gonna I don't think Bobby has thoughts exactly. He has thoughts he's thinking about. He's he's bulling thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:25

Uh the Brian Thomas thing right after I took Michael Wilson hurt. Um this is gonna be great. Um I I don't um you went AJ Early before uh it wasn't before Lad, but it was you went AJ Early and then you went Devontae instead of Ladd, but then you went Quentin Quentin Johnston late.

unknown 1:37:50

Yeah. Yeah, that I don't know about Quentin Johnston um this year.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:56

I just I don't have I don't trust it, but I I see what you're doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:59

Nobody trusts it. The problem is it's worked.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:02

I will tell you this. Um these are nitpicky because I actually really like your first few picks in this draft. I love Jameer Gibbs at two. I think that's better than going after uh wide receiver. AJ Brown coming back great. Derek Henry in the third, great pick, early third. This is a redraft, it's not dynasty. Right. Um, I don't love Devonta Smith at four as number two wide receiver, just because I just don't trust Philly's offense for the ball. There's other guys who I think I would probably lean towards maybe even a little bit more, which is crazy because you look at the wide receivers after that, it's not like they're screaming at you. I love your Brian Thomas pick, actually. I think that's probably the best pick. Yeah, that's a good one. Um Tyler Warren, I don't have a problem with him going where he did. I I will tell you right now, I would take Jared Goff a thousand times over Jordan Love and pick a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:52

Looking back, I'm like, ah, Jared Goff probably would be better. And that's what I said. There's like four guys. I I really don't care. Like, I'm just like, yeah, I don't care. I thought Stafford at that point. So let me put it this way if we had more rounds to make picks, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:05

I wouldn't have you still would have staffed.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:07

I would have just hunted another round.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:09

And I know you wouldn't have. Um, so I I like Jadarian Price where you got him. Uh Clinton Johnson has a ton of touchdown upside, believe it or not.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:16

He does. That's that's why I took him as my wide receiver four. Yeah. I'm like, okay, great. He's finished the last two seasons, he's finished in the top 36. Or, well, right around top 36. Sure. But still, eight touchdowns the last two seasons.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:30

So, yeah, hard to hard to argue with that. I thought it was a good draft. Awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:36

All right, uh, any other parting thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:41

No, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:44

No? Alright. Um, let's see here. We can there we go. I wanted to take a picture of this so we can actually I was trying to figure out how I could get rid of uh the stuff at the bottom so I can actually take a picture of it. Alright, I got a picture of it so we can reassess at the end of the season. Yeah, compare it. See how we feel about it. How wistful we are. Yeah. Um awesome. Well, thanks for joining us, Weston. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:06

Yeah, absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:08

Yeah, thanks for having me in, guys. I I hope to do many more, and uh, I hope uh yeah, hope you guys have a good day.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:15

Sweet, man. Yeah, all right. Well, thank you guys for everybody for listening, and we will talk to you next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:22

Absolutely. Talk to you guys later. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:24

Bye.