A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, we all know the infamous line and there’s no way I could give it more justice than George Lucas has over the countless movies, series and creations he’s put his brainpower into. From the 70s to today, this franchise has maintained to captivate audiences from people my grandparents age to the little babes I see running around in their baby yoda sneakers. Today, we’re gonna focus on what it means to be a Jedi when all else is crumbling beneath them. A snake hiding in the tall grass that not even the wisest can sense. When love and attachment are the sins of the damned. When deception on all sides closes in. When the clones attack.
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, we all know the infamous line and there’s no way I could give it more justice than George Lucas has over the countless movies, series and creations he’s put his brainpower into. From the 70s to today, this franchise has maintained to captivate audiences from people my grandparents age to the little babes I see running around in their baby yoda sneakers. Today, we’re gonna focus on what it means to be a Jedi when all else is crumbling beneath them. A snake hiding in the tall grass that not even the wisest can sense. When love and attachment are the sins of the damned. When deception on all sides closes in. When the clones attack.
Star Wars - Episode 2_ Attack of the Clones Part 1
Gabby Browne: [00:00:00] This podcast is an association with Spotlight Studios, a family of podcasts driven to create unique, one of a kind content. If you have any interest in learning more, please visit SpotlightStudiosPodcast. com. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, We all know the infamous line, and there's no way I could give it more justice than George Lucas has.
Over the countless movies, series, and creations he's put his brainpower into. From the 70s to today, this franchise has maintained to captivate audiences from people my grandparents age, to little babes I see running around in their Baby Yoda sneakers. Today, we're gonna focus on what it means to be a Jedi when all else is crumbling beneath them.
A snake hiding in the tall grass that not even the wisest can sense. When love and attachment are the sins of the damned, when [00:01:00] deception on all sides closes in, when the clones attack. I'm Gabby Brown with Aaron Couser, Jonathan Van Sickle, and our guest today, Sean Paddock. This is The Limelight by Spotlight Studios.
Aaron Couser: This is your guest today, Sean Paddock, who I've known for a long time as well, but I want to know why did you pick Mr. Paddock?
Gabby Browne: Well, first of all, he is my partner and partner in crime. We get along very well in so many different senses, comedic senses in just hanging out and chilling. I respect his movie watching ability.
so much. The first date we ever had, we sat down and we watched [00:02:00] Love, Death, and Robots, and it was the crab episode where the crab takes like a little dead body and uses him as a puppet, and I just kind of knew that we were gonna, you know, get along after that. I wanted to see what movie he would choose to bring on and talk about.
I wanted to hear the story behind, and I knew that everyone else would want to too. When we watch movies together, we watch so much horror. We like, that's really what we had got into initially together. Because we watch so much horror together, I wanted to see like, what movie he would pick as the important movie, if you're gonna pick.
One movie to come on the podcast with, what movie are you going to pick? So, yeah, and we picked
Sean Paddock: Star Wars, Attack of the Clones. Heck yeah. Yeah. Star Wars, I just feel like is such a big deal and so influential in so many people's lives. Growing up, Star Wars was huge to me growing up even before the prequels because I [00:03:00] have three older siblings and my parents.
And like I knew who Yoda was, all the characters I had seen all three of those movies by the time I was 10 or 11 years old, you know, and so it was a huge deal when these prequels were coming out. At the age that I was at, I think I was 11 when Attack of the Clones came out. I'm very fortunate. I love my mother.
Shout out, Nancy. She used to surprise me at school. She'd tell them I had like a dentist appointment or something. When we'd get to the office, I'd be like, I didn't know I had a dentist appointment. She's like, you don't. We're going to the movie. Let's go. And so this was one of those movies I got pulled out of school to go see on opening day, which was a really big deal for me.
And obviously I'll never forget. You know, he cherished those memories. She always told me, she was like, I'm doing this and you'll never forget it. And I was like, she's so right. It was such a cool thing. So I'm very, very fortunate there. A couple other reasons I went specifically with the attack of the clones as opposed to a couple other movies was a, it's the first time you get CEO to fight straight up, which I feel like was a really, really big deal for all the fans.
And even I think George Lucas was a little scared of it himself and how he was going to approach this or make it happen. This like. [00:04:00] infinitely wise, wizardly character and how he would physically attack if he could, if he would use the force, if they would throw lightsabers. Obviously watching the original trilogy as a kid was really cool, but being a little less mature I'm always just like more lightsabers.
I want more lightsabers, more stuff, you know. And I, George Lucas did pack a lot of extra stuff in that pre trilogy and you see the monsters in it at the end of Attack of the Clones where they have them tied up are some pretty cool creatures. When you get to see the Jedi come in, 30 to 60 lightsabers all flash up and they're all batting away laser beams and it's incredible.
That's why I picked this one specifically was just that cinematic, the cinematic ending. The beginning's good. I don't want to say it's a bad film by any means, but I feel like it's one of those films you watch an hour and a half of to watch the last 30 minutes to really come together. We watched it last night.
I still got goosebumps when Yoda flips back his robe and you see his lightsaber flip into his hand. Like it's just such a big deal.
The movie gets kicked off with an assassination attempt on Senator [00:05:00] Padame.
Aaron Couser: When you saw it fly in for the first time, that silver, beautiful ship, that was pretty amazing. Yeah. I think he got criticized, George Lucas, about how slow the first movie kind of started. And this one really started off with a...
Sean Paddock: A literal bang.
I was
Jonathan VanSickle: waiting.
Gabby Browne: A quite literal bang. A bang and a death, like, right off the top.
Sean Paddock: The originals do start off pretty good, but Phantom Menace didn't start off with a bang like that. To captivate audiences, I think it was a really good idea, and it kind of showed the importance of an immediate need. We need to get Obi Wan and Anakin in here.
Like, it was a great introduction to get the movie kickstarted to, you know. Boom.
Gabby Browne: Assassination
Jonathan VanSickle: attempt. Not only are we setting up that point, we're also setting up the larger picture with what's happening in the galaxy at this point with, um, the Separatists and the Republic. And so, yeah, I think that's an awesome point, Sean, that he really does lay down a pivotal, pivotal point of the plot in the first, what, five minutes?
Aaron Couser: Can we talk about what the Separatists are? [00:06:00] Just so we can create an understanding throughout the rest of this review.
Jonathan VanSickle: It's like you said, Aaron, this was a civil war of sorts. So you had these inner planets that were in the center of this system, or of this galaxy. You see a lot of left and right type themes in this.
You see a lot more culture, you see a lot more civilization, you see these big, giant cities with sprawling amounts of population, and then you had a select few of these more industrial type planets on the outer rim. These planets were, they tend to be kind of forgotten about, they've been kind of grumbling, I mean, you hear Anakin allude to it later that, you know, no one's really agreeing, nothing's happening because there's just...
such conflict between these two styles of life in the galaxy. So I think the Separatists is where we see, you know, these people with the Techno Union, the uh, the Neimoidians, I mean, all these guys, Newt Gunray, all these people who have been kind of just trying to fight for their own population that hasn't really been represented in what we can see is a broken system.
Sean Paddock: [00:07:00] Yeah, it was a, yeah, essentially they feel like the outcasts, they feel misrepresented by their government. I see the Republicans like the general government for the entire galaxy and they were like. We don't feel very well represented in this, we're not, like, we're trying to do work and you're restricting us, A, from doing our work by creating regulations, and you're not listening to us.
It's unfair representation, essentially. Palpatine sees this as a good point of like, ooh, I see a couple large forces that we could pin against each other here, how can we work that out, you know? Exactly. Oh, Palpy.
Gabby Browne: Lady, I'm so sorry. I failed you, Senator.
Jonathan VanSickle: We see
Aaron Couser: that it really was a body double assassination attempt was thwarted.
You see a Natalie coming in very upset because I think they were pretty friendly. Yeah, they're besties. Her body double and her and uh, the body double goes, I, I failed you Senator, which didn't make any sense really because actually she didn't fail
Sean Paddock: her. Yeah, that was her job. Yeah, that was her job. As unfortunate as that
Aaron Couser: is.
Right.
Jonathan VanSickle: Yeah. It was sad though. She died. There [00:08:00] is some kind of weird stuff with this. I love George Lucas and I love Star Wars and I mean I've, I've spent thousands of dollars and hours of my time on this, uh, franchise. But there are some moments like this in this movie, some inconsistencies with dialogue like you just pointed out.
And also I think in the intro, in the crawl they say the mysterious count duku, but immediately five minutes into the movie the Jedi are very well aware of Count Duku and almost seem to know his intent. Although I was gonna say he's so. Mysterious in this introduction. They're like, oh no. No, we know dooku.
He was a jedi He you know, it's not in his nature to murder which also is like damn, dude The jedi just don't know shit right now. They are so out of the
Sean Paddock: loop That's a really good point because they all know dooku They literally he was on the jedi order like 10 years ago It was even like it was that long ago that he left he was Qui Gon Jinns
Gabby Browne: Like literally 10, 10 years, 10 years can do some stuff to a man apparently, but you know, that's, yeah, and I also think that there's the inconsistencies are somewhat there too because [00:09:00] of how hard focused they were on the technological design of creating these movies that they let some of the The like, not necessarily plot points, but dialogue, discussion with actors, things along those lines that they just kind of let slip because they were so focused on the storyline of the actual film.
I don't know how much longer I can hold off the vote, my friends. More
Sean Paddock: and more star systems are joining the separatists.
Aaron Couser: They're coming to Coruscant.
Gabby Browne: Coruscant. Coruscant. The D. C.
Aaron Couser: of Star Wars. There's a big vote coming up. Yeah. A big vote to see if the Republic should have their own army. Form an army.
Form an army. Based off the threats of the Separatists.
Sean Paddock: Essentially from Count Dooku. Right. And uh, the trade federation. Yeah.
Aaron Couser: Yeah. So it's a huge deal. You know, this is a, this is a big vote that could change the landscape of the entire galaxy.
Sean Paddock: You can't have a war without an army and the separatists obviously don't want the [00:10:00] republic to have an army.
So kill the person trying to propose it, like just get it out of here, like mob style, I guess. Essentially. That's how we handle situations. Just get rid of them.
Aaron Couser: Centurion Medulla, she's immediately convinced Doku is behind this whole thing. Yeah,
Gabby Browne: she immediately thinks Doku's the dude. Which is
Aaron Couser: pretty intuitive, I suppose.
But
Gabby Browne: they're like, no, he was a Jedi. Yeah, he didn't do this. He's an idealist. He's a murderer.
Jonathan VanSickle: Oh my god. Okay,
Gabby Browne: y'all are being a little naive right now. She has had multiple assassination attempts at this time. We could probably start suspecting multiple people. Yeah.
Sean Paddock: Not at all. I haven't felt you this tense since we fell into that nest of gum dogs.
Aaron Couser: Kenobi and Anakin arriving at the Capitol. Cortis. Yeah. Corson. Yeah. Corson. At the, at at the same time, Yoda suggests that Kenobi becomes the bodyguard for Padme to protect her. Now that her life [00:11:00] is obviously on high alert. Our first scenes with, with Kenobi and Anakin are, are kinda like, like, buddy, buddy, somewhat.
Gabby Browne: I say the the boy is a bit challenging. . We will not go through
Sean Paddock: this exercise again. Anakin. And you will pay attention to my lead. Why? What? When they first sit down with Padme, you see Anakin gets lippy immediately. You see how much he cares about Padme. She's like, we need to find out who did this. And he's like, I promise we'll find out who did it.
And Obi Wan's like, no, we're gonna follow orders. Our orders are to keep her safe. We're not investigating anything. And he just claps right back at him. It's one of those things where we're like, who, where's the power dynamic here? Which really sets off the tone for the rest of the film too. Especially since
Gabby Browne: we haven't seen seen him since he was just like a true child.
Like a little, a little Bambine. And now he's like immediately talking back to his, his literal master. The superiors. Like, yeah, it's, it's, uh, he's, uh, it made me kind of want to rip the rat tail off.
Jonathan VanSickle: Well, and, and [00:12:00] even like right before they sit down, we have that first scene with Padme where she recognizes, oh wow.
My how you've grown and then he comes back with so have you More beautiful. I mean Anakin and like The chemistry, I understand, I think, what George Lucas was going for, and I don't know what's wrong with Hayden Christensen, but if you can't find chemistry with Natalie Portman, dude, what's going on? And the
Sean Paddock: way he goes from awkward edging up to, like, overly confident, where Flip, it doesn't do it quite as much in this first scene as some of the other ones, but he's just, like, really not sure about things, and then immediately, like, I'm an ultra badass, but like, I'm, I can do anything, you know, like, Which, which I
Jonathan VanSickle: think we could give Lucas credit for, as well, in the casting, and maybe Hayden Christensen, because I think that really does start to express, um, the lack of control that Anakin has over his emotions, which is...
It's massively important as a Jedi to have control over your emotions and not let your feelings put you in a bad position. [00:13:00] It
Aaron Couser: seemed like Kenobi and Anakin were first on the same page when they were going up that elevator, but the minute a beautiful woman is involved, now he is moving away from his master and trying to impress her, saying, yes, we're going to find out who tried to assassinate you.
Even though it's not their duty to find out who assassinated Padme. It actually is the way to protect her to find the assassin so no one will try to kill her anymore. Why would they put
Jonathan VanSickle: two Jedi on this if they just want us to protect her, you know? They could have put anyone on there. It's our duty, essentially, in this position to not only protect her, but find out who is responsible.
Sean Paddock: Obi Wan kind of agrees with him with that point, but also can't give it to him because he's his mentor and is trying to teach him to restrain. And when he, when he does lip off and then he's right, you can't give him an attaboy at that point because it just shows, I don't know, it shows weakness and lack of control.
Gabby Browne: Speaking of assassination attempts, this woman out of nowhere who receives this This jar looks like a little squiggly guy in there. Some type of [00:14:00] centipede like creature.
Sean Paddock: We'll have to try something more subtle this time, Sam. My client is getting impatient. Take these. Be careful. They're very poisonous.
Jonathan VanSickle: We're
Gabby Browne: back in the room with Anakin and Obi Wan. Obi Wan's asking him, is everything okay? And he goes, quiet as a tomb. We're talking about protecting the woman that you think is beautiful. Quiet as a tomb is not the way to describe her bedroom when you're trying to Save a woman, you know, like it's very, that, that line stuck with me.
You should have hired someone, George.
Jonathan VanSickle: I think even if you did have editors, it's the type of situation where that, that guy runs the show. I think it's just like one of those things. He brings in the script and they're like, it's brilliant.
Gabby Browne: Everyone's such a star Wars nerd that they're just like, yes, George.
Jonathan VanSickle: Totally.
Aaron Couser: Anakin goes to Jar Jar and basically professes his love [00:15:00] for, uh,
Jonathan VanSickle: Padme, which is also another, and begins a long pattern of Anakin just being a whiny little bitch, just complaining. It's, it's amazing.
Aaron Couser: Jar
Jonathan VanSickle: Jar
Gabby Browne: was kind of the catalyst for Anakin to like fall in love with Padme. He's the one who first starts.
Sexualizing Pad Ma charge Jar Banks. He's like, oh, she hack. Yeah. Like she, he does say that in the movie before this one. And so the reason I think he's going to Jar, jar is remember how you told me she was hot 10 years ago? , she didn't even recognize me. She didn't even recognize me
Jonathan VanSickle: and charge jar's like I've been thinking about her every day.
Like, dude,
Sean Paddock: whoa, ,
Jonathan VanSickle: take it easy.
Gabby Browne: Where did OPI one take you that you have not been able to confide in anyone about your feelings?
Aaron Couser: She covered the cameras. I
Sean Paddock: don't think she liked me watching her.
Gabby Browne: Quiet as a tomb. Boy can [00:16:00] sense everything in that room. Well, I can sense everything. And Obi Wan's like, No, you can't.
I can though. And then they start arguing about who can sense everything in the room. Don't they turn all
Aaron Couser: the cameras off? Turn like all the security systems off? Yeah, cause
they're
Aaron Couser: just a little cocky. Kind of like rolling the dice here, you know? Why are we turning the security cameras off? But, uh,
Jonathan VanSickle: Well, and he says it's Don't worry, I have R2 in there.
But one of the things that drives me crazy about this, And I know I'm just a huge Star Wars nerd, And I'm just nitpicking, but hey, We're talking about episode 2 here, guys. R2 is like, positioned towards her bed, And there's a gigantic window, That this woman, it's just like, Constant assassination attempts, Humongous window, R2 pay attention To that bed right there, it's like, dude!
No way! There's
Gabby Browne: a literal hole in the window. Like, jeez maccreas. Meanwhile, in comes the little squigglers.
Sean Paddock: Yeah. Well, and he R2 doesn't even seem I'm sure he was scanning, but he doesn't even seem that alert when they scanned him. Like, all his lights are off. It just looks like he's sitting there turned off, essentially.
People [00:17:00] say people.
Gabby Browne: Yeah, like, what? Okay, R2's in there for what? Uh, emotional support? She's having a hard time during these assassination attempts and needs someone to talk to.
Aaron Couser: R2, at first, like, senses the little squigglers. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you. I guess the squigglers realize they've been spotted somehow. Then R2 shuts back down, and then finally, the spidey senses of Kenobi and Anakin kind of go off. Anakin is, you know, does his Jedi stuff and just slices the squigglers right before they are able to poison Padme.
With Anakin saving her life. I can sense
Gabby Browne: it. Me too. And then they just go. Sorry. That was what I wanted to say.
Jonathan VanSickle: So as soon as Anakin gets rid of these squigglers, we see the robot that dropped them into the window starting to leave. And Obi Wan, once again, out of both of these guys, the guy who's like, We will not be chasing you.
Yeah, and don't run in there. They went in there. [00:18:00] Hide. Don't jump to blah blah blah. He jumps out. The window onto this, which I think should have been Anakin. I really think that should have been Anakin there. It would have really done a lot more for the story, but that's okay, George. I'll let you have it.
Jumps out the window and now we begin a chase scene through the skyways of
Sean Paddock: Coruscant. I think that shows why Anakin feels like he can be lippy is when, when he does shit like that, you're like, you can't tell me I can't do this and do it right in front of me like it's like, I'm, I'm so much better than you that I can do exactly what I tell you you can't do.
Well, and I guess we
Jonathan VanSickle: can take that one generation further to Qui Gon Jinn, who we know always had troubles with the Jedi way he was very much in contention with the way that the Jedi lifestyle was. So maybe that's just the brilliance of that kind of being inherited from Master to Padawan throughout the
Sean Paddock: years.
Qui Gon recognized that this boy was a little troubled, and he saw it in himself. Disagrees with some of the Jedi ways, but he knows how to handle it appropriately, I suppose, and to still be himself. He saw that Anakin had so much power, and he needed [00:19:00] that, otherwise it could have gone awry. And obviously, we get there in the next couple of movies,
Gabby Browne: but...
Ha
Aaron Couser: We've talked about Lucas being an innovator, and one of the things he was so passionate about is digital filmmaking. And at the time, digital cameras could not record 24 frames a second like film cameras could do. And so the technology just wasn't quite there. He had worked with Sony and Panavision to start creating these prototype cameras.
At the time of The Phantom Menace, they finally had a digital camera that could record at 24 frames a second. This huge dinosaur, uh, looking machine. He would practice on a couple scenes to see if it would work. And it actually did. He was actually able to record digitally at 24 frames a second and showcase it.
And that gave him the confidence when Attack of the Clones was about to be filmed. He had six cameras from Sony and Panavision [00:20:00] ready to go. Even though there was still, like, these huge contraptions. He finally had the licenses. and the equipment to be able to successfully do it. And at that time, that was totally unheard of.
The technology was not available. The benefit of filming a film digitally was the depth of feel. Like in this movie compared to like most of the other Star Wars movies was brighter, crisper. The clarity, the sharpness was much more pronounced, which he really wanted, especially with a lot of those scenes from Coruscant
Jonathan VanSickle: with the cityscapes.
And I'm not gonna lie, I'm just gonna interject this real fast, for me being a big fan of the original trilogy and that dirty, dusty space world, it's almost kind of a detriment in this movie. It's so clean and it's so crisp that it's like, this feels sterile, almost, at times.
Sean Paddock: Well, and if you look to where we come to Star Wars now, if I use Mandalorian as an example, it has that duskiness, dustiness, dirtiness, it's come full circle back to that dirtiness that is part of the true, making that film and having it be reviewed too in the way that it came out.
influenced the way [00:21:00] people made Star Wars in the future. Like, yeah, we're definitely not going full clean like that. You know, we got to keep it at least a little dirty, a little dusty. Yeah,
Jonathan VanSickle: it feels lived in. It feels believable.
Gabby Browne: And there's still so many processes behind this, too, that are like so fundamental to how previous films were done.
George Lucas has done a color script for every single film he's done, either from the past films to this film, I think is so beautiful. And I think that that's so important. to like the bread and butter of what his films really are too. If he's creating an entire world that has not ever been touched before by other filmmakers, he's still sticking to the bare bones of this is what I want my movie to look like.
Another
Aaron Couser: benefit of doing it digitally was he was able to look at his work immediately. Film took like 24 hours to develop. He was actually able to see problems with the makeup or the costumes, and they could fix it immediately. So that was a great benefit for a lot of directors who had to film on the fly.
It really created a revolution. They started creating cameras that are a little more compact over time. The RED [00:22:00] camera, the ARRI camera, Panavision and Sony were just starting creating these great innovations that changed filmmaking
Sean Paddock: forever. Saved time and that saved money because when you can review it and change it the same day, as opposed to waiting the entire next day.
Waiting for all the makeup, for all the set to get ready, for all that to get done. When you can jump in an hour later and go, Oh, shoot, we need to fix her eye makeup or something like that and do that again. Or we need to tweak the scene a little bit and be able to do it right then and there. Is you're not have to pay someone for an extra day.
With that being said, I did look it up and they still spend 115 million on this. film. They spent more on it than The Two Towers. Yeah, we
Gabby Browne: were, he was like, Oh yeah, but because of the CGI, like we were just discussing and it just not
Sean Paddock: on Two Towers. The jump was crazy cause four, episode four was like 11 million.
Episode five was like around 18, 19. Episode six was around 32 I think. And then this one was 115. And then the, the third episode was 113. It was like 2 million less than Attack of the Clones. Yeah. And then you look at The Force Awakens. [00:23:00] Oh gosh. 472 million dollars or something like that. Almost half of a billion dollars to make that film.
Incredible.
Jonathan VanSickle: Not half a million dollars better either. No, no. That's
Aaron Couser: crazy. That's what innovation
Sean Paddock: does for you though. Half of a billion dollars for that film. It just blew me away.
Gabby Browne: And we couldn't have had a better script.
Obi Wan does not like flying very much. Anakin just keeps pressing his limits. Plays chicken in the vehicle for no reason. He's just messing around. Drops down on the assassin's ship. And Anakin,
Aaron Couser: during all this, he like, Oh, he shanks them. He like, loses his lightsaber too.
Jonathan VanSickle: Yeah. I think that's the moment when he jumps on the ship, he tries to save it.
stab his lightsaber straight through, which once again, Anakin, dude, you're not going to find the killer this way, man. So stabs through the ship and then promptly loses his
Gabby Browne: lightsaber. Yeah. And who catches it right away as Obi Wan is just like, boop, boop, and like sets it right in this thing. And he's like, ah, Anakin.
It's
Sean Paddock: a big deal to [00:24:00] lose your saber. Like you put everything, they spend their, they're becoming a Jedi is like part of going to find your kyber crystal and building your saber. So having something that's like. part of ingrained in your religion and sacred to you. So the fact that it not once but twice during this film, Anakin is without his orgon, I feel like says a little something in itself, doesn't have the same respect for it the same way.
He doesn't have the same respect for the Jedi order. That boy
Gabby Browne: doesn't have respect for anything, but, but Padme. A little too much respect. Yeah, I know.
Aaron Couser: The crash landing, uh, is pretty amazing. First off, they crash into, like, this pavilion, supposed to be all, like, all these alien creatures. They don't
Jonathan VanSickle: hit anybody.
Yeah, not a single person's hurt. You know,
Aaron Couser: thankfully. Yeah. No collateral damage. Anakin kind of just falls to the ground, and then... The assassin crashes into this pole, but then just kind of jumps out of the car, and they're back into more of an on foot chasing, and where they go to this club, where now Kenobi and Anakin reconvene.
Gabby Browne: Anakin is about to run in there, and Obi Wan's like, Think like a Jedi. Like, this is why you are [00:25:00] still a Padawan. You are not thinking like a Jedi.
Aaron Couser: And here's your lightsaber. Here's your lightsaber,
Sean Paddock: child. Don't lose it again. Don't get ahead of yourself. Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?
Don't say that, Master. A big nod. Massive foreshadowing. Yeah, man.
Aaron Couser: Massive
Gabby Browne: foreshadowing. You wanna buy some Death Sticks? Obi Wan has been sick of, sick of Anakin shit and he's ready to get a drink. So he goes, he goes up to the bar and he's sippin he's sippin and...
Jonathan VanSickle: Death Sticks? Uh, you don't wanna sell me Death
Sean Paddock: Sticks.
You'll have to go home and rethink your life.
Jonathan VanSickle: Yes! Incredible! Wonderful Obi Wan moment. Give me more of that, George.
Aaron Couser: That might have been the best Kenobi moment of the, uh, and it was awesome, you know? Just, just go, please go away.
Jonathan VanSickle: I'm
Gabby Browne: working.
Sean Paddock: Star Wars moments, like it started, it's hard to understand, explain what that is until you see them, and it's just those little funny things that, you know, when you see, yeah, exactly.
I would love to
Aaron Couser: catch up with that character to see [00:26:00] how his life has improved.
Gabby Browne: Just because a Jedi mind controlled you into changing your life. We see the first point of view of the assassin whipping out her little gun, and you have no idea. Is she behind Annie? Is she behind Obi? We don't know. And, of course, Obi Wan senses her, whips his saber out, and just slices off her little hand.
Aaron Couser: You cannot sneak up on a Jedi so easily. And they just drag her out into the, um, alleyway.
Jonathan VanSickle: Jedi business. Back to your drinks. Bringing a
Sean Paddock: bartender, talking to other bartenders. A guy told me once, he's like, You ever knock someone out in a bar, he goes, You just grab them, put your arm around their shoulder, and walk out and be like, Sorry, my buddy's hammered.
And then just leave them out in the alleyway. And I felt like that's what they were doing with her, was just like, Yeah, no, no, no, we're getting her out of here, it's fine, don't worry about it. Who hired you
Aaron Couser: to assassinate Padme? She's about to... Reveal it. Dart. Darts. Death darts.
Jonathan VanSickle: Poison
Aaron Couser: darts. And then you see, immediately you see the assassin changing.
Now here's a question. [00:27:00] How come the assassin just didn't change into like some kind of pole or like a hat rack, you know? In the club. Uh, just to escape from these jedis.
Sean Paddock: Well, I have to change into at least another creature, right? Like, they could turn into inanimate objects. When they're in the battle fight and they're going back and forth, and she turns her head, you can see in that moment she looks like she does when they kill her,
Jonathan VanSickle: like. And maybe that could have been the thing with, you know, as Gabby was saying, with so much creative control on the visual effects side, you know, maybe there was a scene where they did change and, you know, they had it in there and George was just like, eh, we don't have time for it, you know, and it got cut.
Because it does seem like, They're really trying to set up that point, and
Gabby Browne: it's like, Oh, he just has so many ideas and not as much of like a hold on it. Crack
Sean Paddock: down this bounty hunter, you must.
Aaron Couser: The Jedi Council is now taking this a little more serious. I mean, I would think they'd take it a little more serious when, you know, the [00:28:00] the ship got blowed up. But now, they really want to get to the bottom of who is trying to assassinate Padme. Like, for real this
Jonathan VanSickle: time. Yeah, multiple attempts in the last 48 hours.
Yeah. Jeez. Someone really wants
Aaron Couser: her gone. Yoda basically orders Kenobi to go track down who this person is based off that dart. And then they order Anakin to hang out with
Jonathan VanSickle: Padme. Oh
Gabby Browne: man, what a horrible task. I'm sure he's so daunted by this.
Sean Paddock: Well, the funny thing is, is at the beginning we talk about Anakin arguing with him about finding out who her killer is, and they send Obi Wan to do it instead, and literally leave Anakin with her to work as security.
Windu
Aaron Couser: tells Anakin that he, they have to travel to Naboo and coach his refugees. Which, I thought maybe they, you know, used some starships. But they decided it's better just to travel with all the normies. Yeah,
Gabby Browne: incognito, yeah.
Sean Paddock: Well, I think it's because they're afraid of how corrupt everything is around them.
Like the [00:29:00] corruption that's within the senate and everything. They're aware of that and the Jedi don't trust. The politicians or the Senate, they don't trust anyone except for themselves. We don't trust anyone enough to send as an escort to do things that they won't alert other people or someone else could find out where they are or what's going on.
They literally blew up the last ship that she stepped foot on. So it's like, yeah, let's get her a mask and a hood and we'll put her on the subway instead of traveling like a political escort through the middle of the city. They can't
Gabby Browne: blow up the subway. Like, if they do, there will be like tons of people dead.
Sean Paddock: They would never expect them to go. But
Jonathan VanSickle: would they never expect them to go to Naboo? They're like, they'll know she'll be gone as soon as she leaves and they put Jar Jar in control. And so it's like, if you're the separatist at this point, it's like, Okay, she's off coursant, where do we think she could be?
Palpatine
Gabby Browne: is like, talking to Anakin. He's like, I'll talk to her, I'll make sure she's like, you know, whatever. She's gonna be fine with going. In time you will
Sean Paddock: learn to trust your feelings. Then
Gabby Browne: you will be
Sean Paddock: invincible. [00:30:00]
Gabby Browne: He says he's the most gifted Jedi at this point and I'm like, you do not need to be blowing up this kid's ego even more.
Even if he is the most power, he could possibly have that. He's still not even a Jedi, you know? Why are we bumping this kid up already so much? You are literally about to be the leader of the And you're the one bumping his ego? He was corrupting him from the, from the
Jonathan VanSickle: get go. Straight corruption comes an episode later, but in this one, I think we really see the duality of Anakin and his, probably his conscious in his mind, what's happening.
I mean, you essentially have the devil on one side and the angel on the other. You have the Jedi order telling you the right and just way to do things. Then you got Palpatine over here, like, You're so much more stronger than Mace Windu. You're so much smarter than Yoda. And it's just like, you can see how.
He was, you know, he was a confused, kind of tormented soul at this point.
Sean Paddock: With his force, he could see the darkness and Anakin and see the struggle without him even having to say it. Just being around him, I'm sure he could sense it. So it's like for him, it's [00:31:00] easy to grow in and just try to like gently stir it up and pull that out.
Like, how do we get a little more of that out
Gabby Browne: of you? I will now think of Ewan McGregor as the good angel on my shoulder. Nothing wrong
Jonathan VanSickle: with that. I don't think so either.
Aaron Couser: Kenobi at this point is sharing his reservations about Skywalker. He's starting to see cracks in the prophecy that Skywalker is the true one to bring the Force back to balance.
I think they
Jonathan VanSickle: imply the chosen one, and if you look at the grand scheme of Star Wars, Vader does eventually bring balance to the force. So I believe, I think while the prophecy may have been slightly off, and not quite what they expected. Still came true.
Aaron Couser: Before they pop off back to Naboo, Padme comes up to Jar Jar and basically gives him her senator abilities.
Gabby Browne: How am I? [00:32:00] But you know, yeah, it's fine. It's fine. She's got to give it to somebody. And I mean, we're trusting Jar Jar at this moment, I guess. So she's pissed. She does not want to leave. She's starting to pack her belongings with Anakin.
Anakin is also getting pissy. I'm better than anyone. I'm ready for the trials. He's ready for the trials. I do not, I do not know why I'm still a Padawan. Blah, blah, blah. Obi Wan thinks I'm unpredictable. I blah, blah, blah. And it's like, this outburst, sir, is unpredictable. He's like looking at Padme in ways where she's literally like Sir, you're making me uncomfortable, stop, like she literally says stop looking at me like
Sean Paddock: that.
Yeah. He starts off by complimenting Obi Wan, like this is what really got me, this line of quotes is one of my favorites of the whole movie, he says, he is as wise as Master Yoda and as powerful as Master Windu, and then in two sentences later he goes. And in many ways, I'm ahead of him, which literally means he's so arrogant.
He thinks he's smarter than Yoda and more powerful than Windu and better than Obi Wan, like which maybe he is, but I [00:33:00] don't. Not at this point. Yeah, not right now. And child, it just says so, so much about him at that where he's at in this film and how much he still has to learn.
Gabby Browne: Yeah, literally, you are showing us currently the reason you are still a Padawan, a young Padawan.
Jonathan VanSickle: But regardless, he's being sent on his first solo mission. Yeah, and this is a huge one. Obi Wan expresses his his concern about this of him being on a mission by himself of such importance I'd be more worried about her than him. Yeah, which is also another bit of foreshadowing for what we'll see in the coming moments Yeah, he's wild kids.
He's a wild and crazy kid
Sean Paddock: So my friend, what can I do
Gabby Browne: for you? The Obi Wan, he's in a shady little diner, and he greets this lizard fish man. Love this guy. Lizard fish man behind the, he's cooking up something real good in this diner. His name is Dex, and man, if I were [00:34:00] ever to be in Star Wars, Lord, I would never be a human being. I want to be one of those giant lizard fish people, or something cool like that.
I want to be Dex. He shows Dex the dart. He says that it's from Kamino. It's a Kamino Saber dart. It's way beyond the outer rim. And then he gives a little innuendo about needing a big pocketbook for
Jonathan VanSickle: this spot. Kam Kam Kaminoans.
Aaron Couser: Kaminoans, yeah. The Kaminia. The cloners. Yeah, the cloners. Uh, they're, they expect you to be mannerly and have a big pocketbook.
Yeah, mannerly and a big pocketbook. Right. So they do, they do appreciate manners and, and
Gabby Browne: etiquette. Well, it's a good thing they didn't send a Anakin.
Jonathan VanSickle: As much as we're tearing George Lucas apart on his inconsistencies, poor dialogue, really kind of questionable directing style, he has lines like this. Where they're talking about the saber dart and Kenobi saying it didn't show up in our system [00:35:00] We didn't know, you know, what the hell is this? How do you know?
And he said there's a difference between wisdom and knowledge And I think that is expressed many times over when observing the Jedi's and what they think they know versus
Sean Paddock: I think it's a big implication, too, about the Jedi, and even to go as far as when they go to, he goes to investigate the cloner's planet, and he can't find it, and rolling into that, I love to see, he goes to to
Gabby Browne: Yoda while he's teaching children, and a child raises his hand, and he's like, Master Yoda, maybe they deleted it from the system, and everyone's like, Wow, that's a good idea.
Maybe should have thought of that.
Jonathan VanSickle: I think maybe that youngling scene was once again, Lucas's kind of attempt to bring the younger generation into Star Wars because, you know, you had all these guys from the late 70s growing up with this. Now you have this whole new generation who has no real attachment to the movies unless you're, you know, [00:36:00] like Sean and I, who I had.
My uncle was obsessed with Star Wars. Every time we visited, we were watching Star Wars. But I think this was also one of those things that you see a lot of use of. Children kind of saving the day at moments. I mean, it's a very child centric in this movie and episode one. Episode three, it kind of grows up a little bit.
But at this point, I think we're still trying to kind of. Pander to that child like sensibility and and also
Gabby Browne: just showing like the vastness of the Jedi Generations throughout this time is being like yes, the way they're not just a couple. We're in Literally, we're teaching Yoda's teaching children classes on like how to be a Jedi and I love it
Jonathan VanSickle: swinging lightsabers blindfolded two feet away from each other
Gabby Browne: If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist.
Aaron Couser: When he was at the, uh, library and going through the records, the lady that [00:37:00] was running the library, she becomes pretty important in the comics, I think, later on, basically tells him if it's not there, it doesn't exist, you know, so she was very offended that he would assume that.
They didn't know what they were talking about. It's
Sean Paddock: that absolute and absolute training in his mind sense of like, this is the Jedi archives. This isn't like a normal archive. Like people don't delete things out of the Jedi archive. And that's why he suggests it would be a mistake. This must have been a mistake because they don't delete things.
And I think that's why. They have the child say it just because he's not fully an adult. I wanna say brainwashed, but fully believed into that the Jedi don't make mistakes and they have everything right. And so he's like, well, maybe someone just deleted it. And they're like, uh, it's like really confusing for them, but maybe that's what happened.
I mean, it is funny to have a little kid have the perfect answer first try, which is obviously silly, but I think he was just trying to show perspective in that moment. It's just
Gabby Browne: like the, uh, the true mentality and. The thing behind it, for me, is they know that there is corruption at this point. Multiple times they've talked [00:38:00] about Yoda's issue with fully not being able to see because of the dark side blocking their views.
I feel like they should be up and ready for
Sean Paddock: anything. Like you said at the beginning with Count Dooku, like, they knew he was a member of the Jedi Order ten years ago. He was in this building 10 years ago, and he's now our biggest enemy. Granted, there's a lot of things going on, but why that wouldn't come to your brain first?
Or think of that a
Gabby Browne: play. Even Padme is like, I think it's Count Dooku. And everyone's like, I don't know about that.
Aaron Couser: I was very impressed with Anakin in this next scene. Padme and him are getting ready to, you know, get on the subway. And he is actually carrying the luggage. Which, you know...
Gabby Browne: Amazing gentleman behavior. Nice
Jonathan VanSickle: two big
Aaron Couser: suitcases. But you'd think, you know, he'd use his Jedi force, you know, to kind of lift it. But I guess he doesn't want to be seen as a Jedi, you know, out in public that way.
That was very chivalrous, I guess. I
Gabby Browne: also really like this dialogue in this scene here, too. It's somewhat important to Hayden Christensen's [00:39:00] character, who Anakin is in the sense of always pushing the boundaries and pressing his limits on what is allowed for him, because he talks to Padme and he's like, attachment is forbidden and possession is forbidden, but Compassion, you know, that's essential to who being a Jedi is.
So, you know, love is actually really important to being a Jedi. He's like trying to work his way around the rules, which is he's constantly trying to do, constantly trying to work his way and push his limits on what being a Jedi can be for him anyway. Secret wedding.
Sean Paddock: It's like he knows it's that knowledge versus wisdom thing.
Like he knows the rules, but he doesn't understand them, if that makes sense. Yeah, I feel like definitely doesn't respect and doesn't respect him. And I think that's why he challenges him so much is because he doesn't understand to respect him. We've seen what happens when it goes a little off the rail sometimes and things work out just fine and they're on top always.
So he's like, I [00:40:00] just roll like that. I always win, you know? Yeah. Just put me in any time, anywhere. I got this. That ultimate confidence, especially with people like Palpatine telling him he's the most powerful Jedi he's ever met. And like, yeah, you're better than Yoda and Windu.
Gabby Browne: We must keep our faith
Aaron Couser: in the Republic. When Padme arrives at Naboo, they got their own little senate there and they talk about the implication of what will happen if the senate votes to create an army. It will create a war. So the stakes are starting to get more raised throughout the galaxy, which is kind of a nice scene to see, you know, their reaction
Jonathan VanSickle: to it.
So in this scene as well, we also see another example of Anakin not really knowing his place. Padme at this point is speaking with the current queen of Naboo, and they're discussing security for her being there and trying to be hidden and being safe. And once again, Anakin interrupts, comes out, he's like, Oh, excuse me, milady.
And she snaps back. She's like, [00:41:00] excuse me, sir. And they kind of have a little back and forth moment where I think once again, it's like not only are you seeing the instability of Anakin, but now we start to see Padme's effect on him. And I think Padme is really responsible for keeping this guy in line because as their relationship grows.
He learns to respect and kind of actually listen to this person, whereas with Obi Wan, with Mace Windu, with Yoda, he doesn't, he might hear them, but he doesn't really respect them, it seems like. So to start to see this power dynamic where you had the same issue happening with Obi Wan, and to see him kind of back down when Padme says, Hey, this is my planet, I think it would be wise if you used my knowledge in this situation.
This is when we really start to see that relationship develop and change from a friendship. To maybe more of a partnership.
Sean Paddock: I didn't think about it like that. That's a really good point. Mm-hmm. Because it is the same exact way he gets into older one, like exactly the same, except for it's the differences, how he reacts to 'em.
I love that. 'cause he wants that love how [00:42:00] dependent Anakin, specifically Anakin is on PAMA As and obviously we see what happens later down. Dig that. Yeah.
Gabby Browne: Back to Obi Wan. The Prime Minister is expecting you. I'm expected? Finding the planet that didn't exist that does exist. Mwahahahaha. I know I said I wanted to be Dex earlier.
I actually want to be one of these alien people. Because they are, yeah. Oh, Llama Su, amazing. Oh, beautiful, beautiful creature.
Jonathan VanSickle: These
Aaron Couser: can, uh, these Ians, is that right?
Jonathan VanSickle: Ke Kim. And Kim Owens. Kim and Owens, because it's, Camino is the planet. Kimon. Kimon Kim. Kimon Kim. Something like that. Yeah. Kim Sounds
Sean Paddock: can just, these cloner.
Aaron Couser: Yep. There. We're just gonna call the cl. We're just gonna call these guys the cloner just 'cause we are not able to pronounce their names correctly. These, uh, cloner say, I hope you
Gabby Browne: have an entire cut. Saint of us all trying to say that though. Sorry, . [00:43:00]
Aaron Couser: I'm gonna save all the attempts. The cloner host who greeted Kenobi when he walked in the door, and first off Kenobi just walks right in, kind of goes
Jonathan VanSickle: literally.
We've been expecting
Aaron Couser: you. Yeah. Yeah. They've been expecting Kenobi or a Jedi, a Jedi, or a
Jonathan VanSickle: Jedi.
Gabby Browne: I think it's Kenobi. I think they really are expecting Kenobi
Aaron Couser: though, right? And they were worried because they
Jonathan VanSickle: didn't think he was going to... I think they might ask at some point, were you sent by Master Sifu Dias?
Oh yeah, they do say that. Never mind then. They're
Sean Paddock: just expecting a Jedi.
Jonathan VanSickle: He plays along even though
Aaron Couser: he reveals that Dias is deceased, which was confusing to the cloners. You've ordered this army. We have... 200, 000 units right now ready to go with about a million on the way. He says Master Sifo Dyas was the one that commissioned this ten years ago.
Gabby Browne: For the Republic! It's for the
Sean Paddock: Republic! Which is like, really confusing. Yeah. Kenobi. I was gonna say, I feel like the movie didn't do a great, great job of explaining this, what was going on here. Because there's like an actual story when you know what's going on. [00:44:00] It just gives you like a couple little details.
I remember seeing it when I was younger and being really confused why he didn't go back. Who ordered these and what happened to Sifo Dyas and why, why are we not interviewing the cloners more to find out what happened with them and why they hired like how that whole interaction like Yoda gets that information back from Obi Wan is like, okay, well, I'll take that and we'll move on with it.
It's like,
Jonathan VanSickle: cool. We got an army. Sweet. Yeah,
Sean Paddock: exactly. Which it seems like would be so against the grain for him. Something that just pops up out of nowhere that's incredibly convenient and works out. And to not question that or dig deeper with that. Highly
Aaron Couser: concerning. Because this army, when they go around and he inspects it, this is a force to be reckoned with.
You know, this is a very brutal, highly trained, highly intelligent clones. Could be very destructive. And that's
Jonathan VanSickle: because, as they said, they were very picky about finding a donor. They explained that, along with his massive compensation, the donor asked for one thing in particular. And that was one unaltered clone.
An exact replica. Because the rest of these clones in the [00:45:00] army, in order to get them ready in time, their age has been accelerated. So it wouldn't take a lifetime for one of these creatures to grow up. They said it'd take about half that time. Obi Wan is curious. He says, I'd, I'd like to meet this
Sean Paddock: donor. He says the donor was a bounty hunter specifically, yeah?
Jonathan VanSickle: They come right out with it. They say it's a bounty hunter named Jango Fett.
Sean Paddock: Yeah, and he's literally on that planet looking for a bounty hunter. The planet
Gabby Browne: that didn't exist and I'm looking for a bounty hunter and there's a bounty hunter here? That's wildly
Sean Paddock: convenient. I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.
Boba lets him in, and they're standing there, and he's, the way that he's facing towards where the door is, and there's a hallway or closet in between them on the door, and you can see Jango's armor. And it's like evident that he should be able to, especially being a Jedi, should be able to see that armor.
But if Obi Wan saw that, recognized it, and was smart enough to be like, I'm gonna play this cool, or if he didn't see it at all. It's a point of contention for the film. If, if he saw that armor, he recognized the armor because he saw the dude fly away after doing the dart. [00:46:00] So he would know pretty much that that's him.
Maybe it's
Aaron Couser: just revealing to the audience that that's... That's who it is, yeah. Who the assassin
Gabby Browne: really is. Yeah, that seemed pretty blatant though. I mean, I wish, yeah, I wish it would have been more...
Jonathan VanSickle: That is the tricky part about this edit. It's very difficult to see if the information is being relayed to Obi Wan that he is seeing this, or if the information is kind of being relayed for you, the audience.
But it does create a lot of, kind of, confusion in that moment.
Sean Paddock: Yeah, well, and it could, that literally could have been changed by just flipping the perspective and let the kid walk past him and close the door. And so then there's not even a conversation
Gabby Browne: about it. This is one of those moments too, where in previous episodes I've talked about the director thinking that the audience is smart enough to figure it out.
But this is one of those, like, really blatant, obvious things that doesn't even have a direct conclusion to why he, he showed us this,
Sean Paddock: per se. When one man is making 10, 000 cuts to make one movie, something like, a little like that just kind of slips by without... A little continuity. Yeah. [00:47:00] Absolutely.
Gabby Browne: I just wish he would have had someone else's eyes on this in the, in that realm.
But what the epitomal creator dream is to have total free reign over your freaking project. Even to the point that your eyes are the last one to see this, that continuity gets screwed out every once in a while because it's your fricking project. Whatever. That's fine. Go for you, George Lucas. This is your like true creation in that sense.
You know, that's absolutely true, actually. Yeah. So even if there are little things that don't make sense and you got the final say in everything, at least you got the final say in everything. That's pretty fricking awesome.
Aaron Couser: Compared to how things are now where there are a million
Gabby Browne: hands are involved. Yeah.
And like your, your project just gets. It's thrown all over itself to the point that it's not even your project anymore. We're back on Naboo with Anakin and, and Padme. We are about to experience one of my personally most iconic memes on the internet when they're like sitting in the flower field. I don't know, maybe a [00:48:00] dictatorship and he looks at her and she looks at him and they're like, oh,
Jonathan VanSickle: This is like, wait, are you for real?
You're just
Gabby Browne: kidding with me. Oh my goodness. But yeah, iconic me. No, he's not, he's not, he wants a dictatorship. During this scene is where they have their first kiss and she immediately pulls away and she's like, no, we're not doing this. Nope. Nope. Nope. From the moment I
Sean Paddock: met you all those years ago, not a day has gone
Aaron Couser: by when
Sean Paddock: I even
Aaron Couser: thought of you.
But she's slowly giving into his darkness.
Gabby Browne: She's slowly giving into his dark force.
Jonathan VanSickle: This is a slow progression here of Padme having more feelings for Anakin. Wearing less clothing around Anakin, there's a lot of progression that starts happening around this scene.
Gabby Browne: I will also say too, girl is on her home planet.
She ain't being a senator right now. Jar Jar Binks has got that whole [00:49:00] thing. She is in casual clothes. She is on her warm, free planet. I'm gonna wear a nice comfy dress if I'm gonna lay in a flower field. I don't know why we need to bring the bodyguard to the flower field, but it's fine.
Sean Paddock: It does seem like every scene with them two, their emotional scene, does get darker and darker.
And more
Gabby Browne: sexualized. Yeah, more freaky, more uncomfortable sexual tension.
Aaron Couser: Yeah. She's starting to match his weirdness. Because, you know, in the first scene he just like stares at her like weird, you know, strangely, like, stop, like, go stop staring at me like this. It's
Gabby Browne: just, I don't understand, like, there is in no way, shape, sense, or form that he gives any sexual attractiveness.
Like, I just, it's so hard for me to believe that Natalie Portman would actually go for this, like, truthfully.
Aaron Couser: Kenobi, he's got the whole picture down now. Jango is subject zero, and they're creating millions of clones based off [00:50:00] this elite soldier. He wants to make sure he gets this message out as fast as possible.
So he's got R4 there to create some kind of a hologram message, and he sends it out to Yoda and the Jedi Council. Yoda orders Kenobi to bring Jango back. And this
Gabby Browne: is also when, like, it's officially confirmed that this was never approved by the Jedi Council, even secretly. This was under the table dealings for sure.
Awesome. And now everybody knows.
Aaron Couser: Anakin is starting to have some bad nightmares. Awesome. Oh, yeah. Some bad dreams about his mama. Well, Jedi's don't have
Gabby Browne: nightmares, Shmi. I love that. That's honestly, I have, I wrote, I wrote it down. I was like, Shmi.
Aaron Couser: Well, he's starting to hear her in trouble.
Sean Paddock: Force messages. And well, and Padme comes in and says, You were having nightmares last night. And his response is, Jedi's don't have nightmares.
Gabby Browne: So, it's an insinuation, he's having a little, yep, vision there.
I believe it's
Jonathan VanSickle: further explained in the expanded lore that Anakin, in fact, had some of the [00:51:00] most strongest and true intuitions. You see Yoda meditating, trying to see through everything and what's happening, but we learn later that Anakin was actually one of the most powerful Jedi's with this ability as far as foresight and being able to see and actually predict things that would come to fruition.
Like,
Sean Paddock: prescient is what I think of. Obviously, I read a lot of Dune, but... And that's why he's a little prescient in that he can kind of see in the wisps and ways that things go. I also think a little bit like Sauron or Saruman with the Palantir. Not exactly that he can see anywhere that he wants. He has that ability to kind of look into things and see and feel.
Which can
Aaron Couser: be a great power but also can be highly negative too because he's not getting much sleep, he can't even control his own emotions as is. So he's becoming now more unraveled hearing his mother's horrible cries for help. He tells Padme about his mother and she agrees to go and help him find his mom and try to save her.
Figure out
Gabby Browne: what's going on in his bad vision so off, off to tattooing.[00:52:00]
Aaron Couser: Force versus Mandalorian skill. Kenobi is trying now to take Jango back to the council with Kenobi kind of falling from a platform. Jango flying
Gabby Browne: away. The one thing I will always say is that Star Wars is gonna have a capable kid. Like, every time. There's gonna be one kid that knows what the hell he's doing.
And I mean, this kid, Lil Boba, the little dude we got for Boba, he was killing it. And that's the only reason they made it out of there was because of him. He got that shit together. Popped off, and then when he got them distracted enough, they flew
Sean Paddock: off. It's a good time to point out how important color and lighting and effects are for George Lucas.
It's common in all of his films. This scene and the other one that rings out to me too is near the end of the film when Anakin and Padme are going through the droid discovery where it's just like red lava. But this one is the opposite where it's like very intense. It is pissing down rain, which I always think is so cool for a fight scene.
I didn't love the Matrix sequels, but that scene at the end where Keanu fights Mr. Smith and it's pouring down rain like that is just so cool. It [00:53:00] gets to show. Boba, you get to learn a little bit about him and learn that he's capable. He has no qualms firing lasers at a Jedi. No hesitation, even as a ten year old.
The Mandalorian weaponry, which is made for fighting with Jedi. Like, they're one of the only people that are capable of keeping up with them. And you see it when, like, he gets the flamethrower to distract him, or he goes to pull his saber out, and he whips that thing around his wrist so he can't even grab him.
It shows that he's had dealt with Jedi in the past, which is, I feel like, kind of a big deal there, too.
Gabby Browne: Obi Wan forces up a little tracker onto the underside of their vehicle to make sure he knows where they're going. Master Ani! I knew you would return! I knew it!
Aaron Couser: Skywalker and Amidala are back in the old stomping grounds from the Phantom Menace.
You see the old shop. that he used to work at and his mom used to work at. We're also greeted
Gabby Browne: by a really, really familiar face. C 3PO. Oh, C 3PO. I know, I was so excited. He's like, Creator. [00:54:00]
Jonathan VanSickle: Well, he does it, he does it brilliantly too. This is another good bit of George Lucas. I'll give it to him. He says, Hello, I am C 3, and immediately Anakin picks it up and says, 3PO.
Because that's what he called them all in the beginning once. And that's how. C 3PO then recognizes, he says, The Maker! And yeah, that's a really cool reunion moment in that scene, yeah. He's the
Gabby Browne: most clever person in this movie, I think. I love him. He's probably not the most clever, but I like to think he is.
3PO? Yes, I love him.
Aaron Couser: Wado. Was he a slave owner? I guess he was.
Sean Paddock: Yeah. He owned the shop. And some slaves to work in his shop. Wado doesn't
Aaron Couser: recognize Anakin. Eventually, Anakin kind of gives him some details. Ani! Lil
Sean Paddock: Ani! Ani!
Aaron Couser: And asks about where his mother is. He said that he sold his mom. Here's a question though.
In the Jedi Order... Why didn't he just get, save his mom and bring his mom with him?
Sean Paddock: Attachment. Yeah, you're not, you're not supposed to, you don't have a family. You don't have anything as a Jedi. That's the whole point is you give up literally all your belongings, outside of your lightsaber. [00:55:00] That's about it.
That's crazy. Yeah. You have to give up your family. That's why they get them so young is so they don't already have that attachment with their parents or family or other things going on.
Gabby Browne: Get you out of the slave trade real early. Don't have any family. Well,
Sean Paddock: for him, it's a lot better life. Sure, it's a lot better life to be a Jedi than it is to be a slave.
Jonathan VanSickle: Definitely. The fact that Shmi was sold to this moisture farmer who actually fell in love with her and had given her a good life, I mean, that was such an improvement on a life that she had before where she was basically just in laborious. Indentured servitude, you know, basically her entire existence.
These people had such, such a sad existence where they were. So for, for Anakin to come out of that and join the Jedi and for Shmi to wind up with this very, very kind moisture farmer who was taking care of her and loved her, they both came up. Even though it was rough. We should
Sean Paddock: go inside. We have a lot to talk about.
Gabby Browne: She's been gone for a month and we have no idea where this woman is. He can't go back out [00:56:00] there until his leg is healed. He's literally lost a leg to these people. He says they
Jonathan VanSickle: walk like men but they are animals. Yeah. Like they have. Taken down countless countless people searching for shmi at this point and they've almost given up Hope reminded me a little bit
Sean Paddock: of like jaws where it's like mango in the water We sent a search party of 30 and four came back and I came back without a leg Yeah, by the way, if you didn't notice
Gabby Browne: they are slaughtering the people we are going to She's dead.
She's gotta be dead already. If you are going out into that sand to find her, she's already dead and you're going on a suicide mission.
Aaron Couser: He knows that she's not dead because he can hear her still in pain. So he knows he can still go and maybe find her and save her still. Even though, to the other people, it looks hopeless.
He jumps on the speeder, going to find them,
Jonathan VanSickle: leaving,
Gabby Browne: leaving R2 and Padme with, with his family, with his newly, newly found, sold to, step family. He's off on his speeder bike across the [00:57:00] desert to find his mother. Non
Sean Paddock: Sun will move into the asteroid field, and we'll have a couple of surprises for him.
Gabby Browne: Oba and Jenga hyperspeed away, but little do they know, they have a little tracking device on them, and ol Obi Wan is right on their tail.
Jonathan VanSickle: In an attempt to evade him, once they realize that he's tailing them, they start heading towards an asteroid belt. Now this is one of those times I'm gonna have to nitpick George a little bit because in the original trilogy, we see an asteroid belt being used in the same way because as George would say, it's like poetry.
It rhymes. He uses very similar themes, but the difference is in the original trilogy, C3PO is telling him the stakes of entering and exiting this belt without dying. I mean, there's no way we're gonna make it, there's absolutely not a chance, they're getting hit by things, the cockpit is being rattled. But in this one, it's just lacking that certain intensity.
For a minute, it seems too easy. It's just not quite the same. Until one moment of [00:58:00] brilliant sound design takes place.
Amazing. Amazing. Absolutely. I remember, and I'm sure you do remember too, being in the theater, whenever that seismic, seismic charge? Seismic ball? Yeah.
Gabby Browne: It's a, it's a, yeah, seismic charge.
Jonathan VanSickle: Seismic charge. Whenever that seismic charge goes off, and the not only the sound, the vacuum of sound before it, it's really, really beautifully done.
And I just wanted to point that out a little, not of the hat to the sound effects guys on that. Absolutely incredible. That one noise could create that kind of a feeling just in your gut. To this day, when that happens in that scene, you go, Oh my God.
Aaron Couser: Yeah. I was anticipating it watching it last night cause I had watched a little like YouTube clip
Jonathan VanSickle: about it.
Oh yeah. That is a Star Wars moment right there. Oh absolutely. That is a Star Wars
Sean Paddock: moment. Very cool. I would love to see, I bet it was just like a giant piece of sheet metal or something that was like literally 12 foot long and just going wham, flipping it back and forth. Cause that's, I [00:59:00] don't know how else you would make that sound.
Oh it's so good. Cause it, but you're right, it's your bones. Like wham. Really cool.
Jonathan VanSickle: Iconic isn't it? I love it. At this point we see Jango and Boba think they have lost Kenobi. They thought they killed him, right? That's right, yes, killed him. They thought they got him with the seismic charge. But he,
Gabby Browne: it was because R, uh, R4 released all of their shit in the back.
It was like all his, you know, all of his random supplies. He gets a little
Jonathan VanSickle: junk in the trunk.
Gabby Browne: Literally junk in the trunk, Aaron. How
Sean Paddock: arrogant Jango is. Like, and granted, I guess when you're one of the best assassins in the galaxy, and you're working for one of the baddest people in the galaxy, you don't really worry about it.
But the way that he handles Obi Wan is just like, Obi Wan, we know, especially from seeing him all the way through, how much of a f ing badass Obi Wan really is and what he's capable of, and Jango gives him no respect for that. He's like, just another, psh, Jedi, like, I eat Jedi for breakfast, you know what I'm saying?
What does he say to his son where he's like, let's teach him a lesson on why they don't chase [01:00:00] us, or something like
Jonathan VanSickle: that? And then as soon as the charge goes off, that's the last we'll see of him. Yeah, exactly.
Sean Paddock: Yeah, he's not even worried about it.
Aaron Couser: Exactly. When they pick you out of a trillion, a million people to clone, millions to create a super army, you probably have a little confidence.
Kenobi, still alive, very much alive, follows Jango to the secret, special...
Jonathan VanSickle: Genosis. Genoans? To the planet of
Aaron Couser: Genosis. Genoians? Genocians?
Jonathan VanSickle: Genosians? We'll call them insects.
Gabby Browne: All of our main characters seem to be in quite a quip right now. Will Anakin find his mother before she meets an untimely fate? Is she still out there? What's happening with Obi Wan? Will he be able to catch Jango and Boba in order to take them back to the Jedi Council? We won't know until next week, sorry about that guys.
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