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Revitalizing Health: Dr. Tom Rogers on Transformative Nutrition and U.S. Healthcare Reform

Jonathan Tipton, Steve Reed & Christine Reed Episode 42

Transform your understanding of modern healthcare and nutrition as we welcome the esteemed Dr. Tom Rogers from Performance Medicine. Dr. Rogers brings his wealth of knowledge in functional and integrative medicine to our discussion, emphasizing how lifestyle choices like nutrition, exposure to toxins, stress, and inadequate sleep play a critical role in our overall health. Prepare to rethink what you know about chronic diseases and health expectancy in the U.S., as we explore possible healthcare system reforms with inspiration from progressive leaders such as RFK, Dr. Oz, and Dr. Macari.

Our conversation sheds light on the alarming prevalence of metabolic syndrome in America, aggravated by the obesity epidemic and poor dietary habits. You'll gain fresh perspectives on why the traditional food pyramid might be leading us astray and discover alternative dietary strategies like keto, paleo, and Mediterranean diets. This episode serves as both a wake-up call and a guide, encouraging listeners to adopt healthier eating habits by reducing processed foods and opting for organic choices. We also touch on modern medicinal aids that assist in better managing the impacts of dietary decisions.

The challenges within the U.S. healthcare system come under scrutiny as we discuss its tendency to emphasize treatment over prevention. Insights from a former ENT surgeon turned integrative medicine advocate reveal systemic issues, including the overuse of medications and unnecessary procedures. The dialogue encourages a shift towards personalized healthcare that prioritizes individual lifestyle factors and metabolic health. We also tackle controversial topics such as the role of vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic, stressing the need to address underlying health conditions like metabolic syndrome and vitamin D deficiency. Join us for this enlightening episode as we navigate these pressing health issues and advocate for a more holistic approach to well-being.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Well, welcome back everybody to another episode of Benchmark Happenings. And you know what? I can't believe that we are at almost the end of 2024. And so today, our special guest is Dr Tom Rogers with Performance Medicine. Dr Rogers, thank you for being here with us today.

Speaker 3:

Christine, thank you so much for having me again. This is always interesting to talk to you. I love our conversations.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll tell you what I love having you on the podcast and Jenny, your wife. I mean what a great. I mean she's just phenomenal. I can't believe how talented she is in her podcast. I love your whole family. I love what you're doing. I love performance medicine, the functional medicine. It's so needed and you're helping so many people with what you do so thank you.

Speaker 3:

You're too kind, and your family as well. We love your family, thank you. Just an incredible family. We were just talking to Steve and he's got some great ideas and just the Midas touch on caring about people. Yeah, that's what it's all about. Whether you're in the mortgage business, the loan business, the doctoring business, it's all about serving people.

Speaker 2:

It really is. And people don't know how much you know till they know how much you care. You know, and it's so true, and this industry is so competitive in the mortgage industry, you know we're just, we're just fraught with you know what's your rate, what's your rate, and people don't look at that service and that personal touch of how much you can be helped. And just like in your industry with health I mean our health you can't put a price on our God-given bodies that are made so perfectly to function so well. And that's what I love about functional integrative medicine it's truly getting to that root cause of those issues.

Speaker 3:

That's what we try to do. You know, I've been practicing medicine for 40 years and about 20 years ago when two of my kids came down with type 1 diabetes, as you know.

Speaker 3:

I realized that I didn't know much about nutrition and then I took a few courses and got involved in integrative functional medicine which, like you say, is finding the root cause of the problem. Yes, and really the root cause of our chronic disease in this country is really poor nutrition, toxins. We're exposed to too much stress, too poor sleep and it leads to gut dysfunction. So it leads to all these metabolic problems and chronic disease. I mean all the money we spend in our country it's way more than any other country would think about spending.

Speaker 3:

And yet our health is going downhill. It's not getting better, it's going downhill.

Speaker 2:

What was it you said on one of your podcasts you were talking about the health of our children that this was the first time in history, it was life expectancy.

Speaker 3:

It's less for the kids being born today than their parents, first time in history.

Speaker 2:

That's shocking to me.

Speaker 3:

True.

Speaker 2:

It's shocking to me, and so we do have some hope along the way with our election. So I know we've talked about, we're excited about RFK coming on board and what he's going to do with nutrition.

Speaker 3:

We have an amazing team coming into our health care system. I mean I say I'm like you, I was so excited, I couldn't stand it.

Speaker 3:

I say out with the old, dysfunctional you know old boys club, traditional, conventional, rigid, cognitive, dissonant thinking to a new order and it's going to really rattle some bones and and hopefully it'll really change things. I mean, you have not only you have Dr Oz coming in, not just Robert Kennedy, you know, you've got Dr Oz. You have Dr Macari out of Hopkins, one of the most published doctors in the world.

Speaker 3:

And he went against the COVID narrative. And you have the guy from Stanford, the epidemiologist Dr Bachar, I think, is how you pronounce it, but he's going in as director of the NIH and he was the one that co-authored the Great Barrington Declaration that challenged Fauci when COVID came out. This is a well-known Stanford epidemiologist, one of the smartest guys in the healthcare industry, and he came out with that declaration that said we don't need to be wearing masks, shutting down our schools, distancing. We need to be exposed to this and get natural immunity. And he was outcast among his peers with.

Speaker 3:

Fauci, with you know the government, um, and he was right and he's coming in to direct our NIH that's Dr. Oz will be in charge of Medicare. Medicaid um Macari will be in there with, I think, maybe the FDA or I mean you're getting some head turners and they're going to change things around and you know what it's.

Speaker 2:

It's we've we've had the blinders on for so long in this nation and even even way before. You know that previous administration and and just like you know, I know you've talked about the food industry, of the chemicals that's in our food and how unhealthy our it's a sad diet, the standard American diet. It's sad, it is sad.

Speaker 3:

Very sad. It's unbelievable and our country has more toxins and fillers in our food than anywhere in the world. It wouldn't be legal to eat some of the foods here that they eat in Canada the Froot Loops. Compare the Froot Loops here, which is terrible food anyway to the Froot Loops in Canada. I mean the ingredients we put, the chemicals we put in there. So the food industry is definitely bought out.

Speaker 1:

There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3:

That's been going on for decades and it's getting worse. I mean, I've talked to these food engineers and they tell me what goes on, and what they do is look for new chemicals that are more addictive to your taste buds, more sugary. And look what's happening with our country we got an obese. I mean 93% of. Americans have metabolic syndrome 93%, which means insulin resistance, overweight, hypertension, increased triglycerides and dyslipidemia. So it's really a sad state of affairs.

Speaker 2:

It is, and you know we were over Thanksgiving. We went down to Pigeon Forge, took the family and we got cabins for everybody so we could have a little family trip. And when we went out and about just sitting in the car watching people go by, it was astonishing there was no one underweight at all. I mean you talk about the obesity epidemic. I mean it is, it's real and it's shocking.

Speaker 3:

Were they all eating funnel cakes.

Speaker 2:

Funnel cakes. And what is that? The sort of fried onions and stuff Fried.

Speaker 3:

Oreos.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

Everything else. Yeah Well, look at going to school. My wife's a school teacher. I mean, it's unbelievable. Most of the kids are overweight.

Speaker 2:

And they don't get any nutrition. So how can we start with what we have available today, even though we know, hopefully down the road the industry is going to change and get these toxins out of our food? But how would you guide someone in nutrition today?

Speaker 3:

That's a great question. You know most of my practice 90% of it nowadays is involved with weight loss, treating metabolic syndrome. That's what it is when somebody's overweight they have metabolic syndrome, which means insulin resistance and hormones. 90% of what I treat is hormone evaluation and treatment and weight loss, and so I've experimented with every kind of diet there is out there and they all work and they all fail.

Speaker 3:

So a general rule of thumb is you know, most people eat too many carbohydrates. There's no doubt in my mind that the carbs are more responsible than any of the macros for weight gain. I mean, when we, our government, came up with this food pyramid back in the 70s, I mean it was totally wrong.

Speaker 3:

We had a guy named Ansel Keys who totally screwed up our healthcare system. So they demonize fats as causing coronary artery disease, heart attacks. It's actually the opposite. The fats aren't the bad boys. Now, some fats are, but there's mostly good fats and protein. But they put carbohydrates as the base of that pyramid that you should be getting, yeah, like six servings right. Yeah, you know. Breads, rice, pasta, cereals. There's no healthy cereal out there. Oatmeal is not healthy.

Speaker 2:

But they're all branded with approved by the American Heart Association.

Speaker 3:

That's because the food industry gives them millions of dollars every year, so they're bought out, without a doubt. I hope some of it turns around, but it's kind of a shame. So there's all kinds of diets that I've worked with, and I've worked with patients, thousands and thousands over many years.

Speaker 1:

Again.

Speaker 3:

I learn I change my mind when something comes up that I really see works, and so we've looked at keto, paleo, Mediterranean vegan, vegetarian, carnivore. They all work, but can you stick to them and is it really healthy? One thing that I'm going to push this year in my practice is cutting out processed foods. Oh, yes. The big thing really is. The danger is processed foods. So if you cut those out and eat whole foods. I don't care if you're doing carnivore or vegetarian. You're going to be healthier.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, because you're eating those whole foods that are god-made and not man-made, I think. Anything man-made right we need to be leery of. I used to tell people if it comes out of a drive-thru window or if it has cellophane around it, don't eat it that's exactly right and it's.

Speaker 3:

It's worrisome too, because even when you go for fruits and vegetables in the grocery, the transit time to get that food there and the stuff they put on it okay, like pesticides I mean. So you need to eat organic? Um whole foods if you can. You need to be very vigilant about what you eat um. So we have a little contest this year in performance medicine on cutting out processed food. So what I do is encourage everybody to come in and get an in-body scan.

Speaker 3:

That is just a very expensive machine that you stand on with your bare feet and your hands and it runs an electrical current through your body. And it's very accurate. I call it the truth teller.

Speaker 3:

So it tells me what your basic metabolic rate is, how much visceral fat you have which is the bad kind around your organs. It tells you how much water retention you have, how much muscle you have, what percentage of fat overall and, like I say, visceral fat. And then I have them get a continuous glucose monitor, so they pop on the back of their arm, it's painless and it records your blood sugar. You know, for two weeks, 24 hours, every minute you can look on there and see what your blood sugar is doing. So a lot of this insulin resistant you're able to tell you know, I just drank you know, a caramel macchiato from Starbucks, my sugar went to 170.

Speaker 3:

That happened to me. I'll wear them. I'm not a diabetic but I'm very used to them, since I've had two diabetic kids in my family for decades. So you know we've been looking at this stuff for years. We have to. But, um, so we're going to do that and then get a food diary and put a list of all the processed foods in there that they're to avoid for a month or two. See how they feel, because once you get that out of your system you won't crave it. But it takes a month to get these cravings out of your system. And plus, nowadays we have new medications that are amazing. You know, as a physician, I'm really kind of a blend between traditional and alternative.

Speaker 3:

So I know the best of both. And now we do have an incredible lineup of GLP-1 and GIP agonists that give people a chance to actually level the playing table with what they eat.

Speaker 3:

Because, as I tell all my patients, life is not fair. Your beanpole buddy may eat twice as bad as you do and you may be a certain weight and they're 80 pounds. So it's different. It usually catches up with them, but so everybody's a little different, you know. We look at your gut microbiome because if you have a lot of stomach issues you're not going to be healthy, you're going to develop autoimmune diseases, you're going to be more likely chance to be overweight and crave bad foods. So we look at people's numbers. We do a lot of lab work but the GLP-1s have been an amazing group of medicines.

Speaker 3:

Ozempic and then the Manjaro. I mean they're incredibly effective and what they do is they just supply the gut hormones that you need to tampen down your appetite. Reduce glucose output from the liver. It makes your insulin work better. That's why originally they're diabetic drugs so um. It reduces the cravings it's amazing what they do and they're so good.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's like it gives you. I know, andy, we talked about it your son, andy, that works at performance too and he said it's kind of like giving them a sled to go downhill. It kind of gives them that little boost, you know, to help you start losing that weight.

Speaker 3:

Because, like you said, it's a metabolic issue.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3:

To me, there's no such thing as willpower in that matter.

Speaker 3:

I mean, some can't overcome it. Now again, when you're a kid and when your mom's eating for you and she's pregnant, all that matters later on in life. I mean, if you're born to a mom who has gestational diabetes, the chance of you being fat as an adult, or twice what it is a mom that isn't yeah, it starts in utero, wow. So not that you can't overcome it, but the best way, of course, would be to learn to our kids, learn to eat right and cut out the junk food. But our kids today are they're overwhelmed. They have poor diets. They don't sleep because they have to start school too early.

Speaker 2:

They do.

Speaker 3:

And they're stressed out because of social media and they're eating all these toxic foods and they're staring at a screen all day. They don't exercise. It's just incredibly hard to be a kid now. Just incredibly hard. Plus, I think the pediatricians overdo it. I think, they get too many vaccines. They get too many antibiotics, the ADD medicines.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that everybody truly needs those medications as a child, that's right. We used to play outside, we had fresh air and we were running and jumping and playing and you know, climbing trees and all those things and, like you said, staring at a screen. We're not made for that all the time.

Speaker 3:

No, plus, there's a lot of the stuff they're staring at is a lot of it's bullying and you know, I think 40% of our children 18 and under already have a mental diagnosis on their chart 40%.

Speaker 2:

That's unbelievable. You never saw that back in my day.

Speaker 3:

No, I didn't see all the diabetes that we're seeing in kids now either. Um, it's just incredibly's just incredibly hard to be a kid. So the parents really have to start looking at this thing even when they're thinking about having kids.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so where can we help people start? I mean, it's a huge problem, but I think you kind of hit the nail on the head. It starts with the parents.

Speaker 3:

It starts with educating the parents, and I'd say re-educating, because most people have been taught the wrong things. I mean, really there's a lot of misinformation. And unfortunately, the misinformation came from the traditional side. Look at COVID. I mean, all the stuff they made us do was totally wrong. The outliers that rebelled against it, like me, were the ones that in the end, we were right about 100% of it.

Speaker 2:

You were. You were right, and I mean the ivermectin and the vitamins and being outside getting fresh air, and I mean even with my job, working for a global med tech company. I was threatened that you know you're going to lose your job four different times for not taking the vaccine. I said that's okay, I'm not going to take it, I've done my research. I'm not going to do it and I never did, thank God we didn't.

Speaker 3:

The vaccine injuries I treat in my office every week are incredible.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's so sad.

Speaker 3:

And the things that it precipitated was unbelievable. I've seen a lot of cases of type 1 diabetes. One case two hours after she received her first vaccine, she was in a diabetic coma. Within two hours a healthy lady, Plus a lot of these people that are dropping dead of heart attacks, especially young men. It's horrible and they're covering it up. It is. I don't mind saying it. The other problem was censorship.

Speaker 2:

you know, during that COVID time, Thanks to Zuckerberg, and now they're wanting to get on board. Isn't it ironic?

Speaker 3:

It is, I was censored three times for things that and I wasn't that controversial. I didn't come out and say don't take the vaccine.

Speaker 1:

Sure.

Speaker 3:

But I learned that even subtle words that I put on my podcast, like I learned really, I learned I couldn't say three things. I could not say vaccine, no matter what. If they picked up vaccine, you're out. Number two I couldn't say ivermectin. Number three I couldn't say Fauci, and if I did, I was off of the platforms for you know, months until I was off probation, but I felt good about it.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, we have to stand for what we believe. If we don't stand for what we believe, we'll fall for anything, and I hope that what we learned from COVID is that we have the ability to make good decisions, to do the research and, regardless of what we're hearing, we can stand up for what we choose for our own bodies. That's right. That's exactly right, and not ever bow down to that ever again.

Speaker 3:

I hope this mass hysteria doesn't ever govern, because we'll have other pandemics there's no doubt about it, one book that you ask where do you start? Here's a really good book, have you? Ever heard of Dr Casey Means.

Speaker 2:

I think you've mentioned that on your podcast.

Speaker 3:

She just wrote a book called Good Energy and that's a great book to read to really find out what's going on with our healthcare system and how to stay healthy. She was a top of her class at Stanford Medical School and she was four and a half years into a five-year ENT Ear, nose and Throat Surgical Fellowship. I mean prestigious researcher. So Four and a half years after starting that residency she just decided that she'd had enough. Our health care system just totally whacked out. You know it's geared towards greed and money and you know billing and unnecessary procedures, too many medications. So she just gave it all up and really she practices in an integrated medical clinic. It has her own, like I do.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow, I've been doing this 18 years, but she's a heavy hitter. She's well known. She's been on Rogan, she's been on with Tucker Carlson. You should listen to some of those podcasts but, she tells it like it is.

Speaker 3:

She exposes the healthcare system for what it is. Now in America we have a great doctors are great it's not the doctor's fault and we have all this technology. We have ways of dealing with trauma, dealing with going in and doing these great procedures on your heart that you could never imagine. I mean, it's unbelievable For our primary care, which I'm in you know it really stinks.

Speaker 3:

It's terrible because it's not geared towards prevention, it's geared towards treatments. This is your disease, here's your medicine, see you in a few months. What are you eating? What's your lifestyle? Are you sleeping? Have you had a sleep evaluation? Tell me about your life. Are you stressed out? What's your gut like? I mean, those are the questions and then we will get a baseline metabolic panel on one of them we do the Cleveland Heart Panel.

Speaker 2:

Yes, which I'm sure you probably had.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's a great way to start out. That way, you know, we can evaluate how bad it is because, like Dr Means says, 93% of Americans have metabolic syndrome already they don't even know it. When they cross over into that diabetic range, then they know it, but for years before that they're insulin resistant and they're very unhealthy. They're insulin resistant and they're very unhealthy.

Speaker 2:

They're inflamed.

Speaker 3:

And so that's what, in my practice, we kind of go after. You know we're kind of outliers, but I blend the best with traditional and some of the alternative stuff, and our practice has just boomed because of that, I think.

Speaker 2:

And what you're doing is so important because you are a true practitioner. I mean, you're not just saying these things, you actually do them. You know, because you're very healthy and you eat healthy and you do the Cleveland panel and you, you know, check your sleep and you know, when I had that Cleveland panel I could not. You know, I've always had like a chem 18 or you know, just general blood work.

Speaker 2:

Well that doesn't really do anything. You don't know the person, but when you and I sat down together and you went over that with me, you asked me all those questions how do you sleep at night? You know what's your diet like? You know how's your gut? I mean, I've never had a physician ever sit down and have a conversation of asking those questions.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's because I have time to do it. I spend my time Granted. For the first 20 years of my practice I saw 40 to 50 patients a day. Then I went back to the hospital. I mean it was and it was like cookbook medicine you don't have time and then when you're seeing those patients you're on a computer typing in codes to try to get reimbursed from an insurance company. The best thing I ever did was not take insurance for office visits.

Speaker 3:

Of course you use it for your labs or you get x-rays or whatever.

Speaker 3:

But for an office visit. Now I see 12 to maybe 14 patients on a busy day. So I have a lot of time. I'm not on a computer when I'm talking to them I'm looking in more depth as to what some of their numbers look like and what their life's like. Like, for example, a cholesterol level means nothing. You know. Total cholesterol does not mean anything and yet I bet 99% of doctors if you went in with cholesterol of 250, you're getting the statin, which can be dangerous medications. I'm not saying some people don't need them. Occasionally I'll use them, but there's a great hoax about cholesterol. It's not the culprit with heart disease.

Speaker 3:

It's more insulin and inflammation. That's where you look for it, not what your cholesterol is, and 99% of doctors don't know that because they've been brainwashed by their medical institutions, which are bought out by the pharmaceutical companies. You can go all the way back to John D Rockefeller, who started the medical schools.

Speaker 3:

I mean it was really bought and paid for and still is by the pharmaceutical industries. And you saw what happened with the vaccines, with COVID, the billions of dollars they made on that, even though the fact that number one it didn't prevent COVID. No, what is a vaccine supposed to do?

Speaker 1:

Prevent the disease, exactly it doesn't work.

Speaker 3:

And number two it never prevented transmission. In fact, it probably encouraged transmission.

Speaker 2:

Well, I've known people that I know that took the vaccines and even took boosters and continue to take boosters. They continue to get COVID and it seems like some of them have even told me it's worse. I mean they're down for several days, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's no doubt that people that are getting these boosters get COVID more often than the people that don't take them. Cdc will tell you that, but then they'll say, well, it may keep you out of the hospital. Bull crap.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

When you end up in the hospital nowadays especially, I mean you've got a coexisting condition, namely metabolic syndrome, obesity, low vitamin D. You know, when COVID first came out, you know it was bad. I mean it was bad, it even hit some outliers. It was a bad disease. But the problem with it was that if you went in they wouldn't treat you. There was good treatments out there for that. Send you home with a pulse oximeter, yeah, and a nebulizer, and Zithromax and Ivermectin First we used hydroxychloroquine, which is a great medicine too, very high-dose vitamins.

Speaker 3:

We even prescribed oxygen, anything to keep you out of the hospital, because you got in there, you died eight times out of ten and you died alone. Oh gosh, we didn't let the families.

Speaker 3:

Then they put you on the protocol where they put you on a ventilator, blow your lungs out, then you. Now you have chest tubes. Now they give you remdesivir, which is a terrible drug. 50 percent of time it shut down your kidneys. So your on dialysis, you're just, you're draining the circle right, and nine out of the ten of those people died alone, it was criminal really it really was in the nursing home.

Speaker 2:

So my dad was in and out of a nursing home at the time and it was just, it was so painful. It was so painful and I'm so thankful for the the work, the healthcare workers who would FaceTime on their personal phone so I could see and talk to my dad. You know, at the time and it was, but you, you know, it's like hopefully we've learned, you know, as good consumers and we've become smarter. You know, I hope that never happens again.

Speaker 3:

I think with the new government changes we're going to have. I don't think it will happen because um it was just led by a bureaucracy that wanted control, wanted the mass hysteria that we had. I mean it's crazy how even the doctors bought into it. But they started learning, because I treat a lot of doctors and nurses. I can't tell you how many came to me. Tom, can you give me some ivermectin, because I can't use it. I want it for my family and myself.

Speaker 1:

Can you write me a?

Speaker 3:

medical exemption for thatin because I can't use it. I want it for my family and myself. Can you write me a medical exemption for that vaccine? I don't want to take it. I'm willing to give up my career as a surgeon to not take that vaccine. What does that tell you? It's terrible. The vaccine was not good, it was dangerous it was. I still will say that. I don't care what anybody asks me. That's right. Good, it was dangerous.

Speaker 2:

I still will say that I don't care what anybody asked me.

Speaker 3:

Hopefully I won't get censored If I do, I'm 70 years old who cares, you know? I mean, I'm just going to do what I think's right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and, and thank God for that. You know, I'm so thankful for people like you. I'm thankful for performance medicine. I'm so thankful to have these wonderful options so that we can have, you know, be healthy, monitor our health, and I look forward to a 2025. So 2025, let's think about what nutrition.

Speaker 3:

Let's think about nutrition first, cutting out processed foods.

Speaker 1:

See where you are.

Speaker 3:

I mean, see where you are, get an in-body scan.

Speaker 2:

Get a Cleveland Heart panel. I've got to do that. I have to get the in-body scan because I've had my Cleveland panel. I need that. I need that.

Speaker 3:

Get the scan and make a food diary. You know we have a great nutritionist, lucas Smith, who directs all our nutrition. He's the only nutritionist I would ever trust. To talk to people that I know, because most of them are kind of practicing out of the dark ages, if you ask me, but um, he does a great job.

Speaker 2:

I love when he's on. You know a podcast and you know he and ben and talking about nutrition and you should get him on your podcast I do. I do you tell him when you see him. I want because I love nutrition and I think it's something that we all need to learn so much more about to eat healthy.

Speaker 3:

We do. That's where it all starts.

Speaker 2:

So anybody listening, I do recommend call performance. You really need to take control of your own health, and this is the way to do it and you guys are doing it right. You're truly helping people and I think it starts with, you know, respecting your body, respecting your health and and treating it as number one, and and let's focus on our nutrition and I look forward to the next coming month, so I want you to come back.

Speaker 1:

So after.

Speaker 2:

Trump gets his administration together, and I'd like for us to talk about some of the changes that we're seeing.

Speaker 3:

Would that be great? Yeah, it'd be great. It's probably going to take a little bit of time, as anything does, but I hope they really get on it and really clean slate and start over again.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes. So, um, dr Rogers, tell us about the, your locations, and also, you had some exciting news about a new location somewhere maybe. Oh, yeah, well, we talk about that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we, we have um locations in all the tri-cities Kingsport, johnson city, bristol Um, we even have a little urgent care center in Kingsport and we have two locations in Knoxville North Knoxville and West Knoxville. And the exciting news is we're going to Nashville. Hopefully this year we'll have a clinic in Nashville and we do some telemedicine With COVID. We did a lot of telemedicine, so that's kind of a a new thing. Uh, that's very helpful for a lot of people that uh live too far away or can't get in to see us. But uh, and we have some great um providers at performance medicine that really um are well-trained and empathetic and are willing to listen and not just react with another medication and can kind of follow up on everything from your stress levels to your hormones, to your metabolic syndrome, to your sleep patterns and just getting healthier in general.

Speaker 2:

So thank you so much for being with us today and look forward to having you back again.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, Christine.

Speaker 2:

And you have a Merry Christmas.

Speaker 3:

You too.

Speaker 1:

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