The Journey to Wellness: Kevin Corbett's Vision

Discover how Thermodynamic Health, led by Kevin Corbett, is revolutionizing wellness in Northeast Tennessee. In this engaging episode, Kevin candidly shares his battle with chronic pain, revealing how it motivated him to create a holistic health center that emphasizes natural therapies over conventional medication.

From innovative modalities like cryotherapy and contrast therapy to essential discussions on the role of community in health, this episode delivers compelling insights into reclaiming wellness intertwined with personal experience. Explore the science behind therapies designed to reduce inflammation and boost cellular health.

Thermodynamic Health aims to be a sanctuary for those seeking alternatives to traditional medical routes, providing a varied, integrative approach to healing. Whether you’re struggling with chronic issues or simply want to optimize your overall wellness journey, Kevin offers practical advice and encouragement.

We invite you to connect with these ideas while taking the first steps toward understanding your health better. For listeners curious about natural treatment options and collaborative care processes, this episode serves as an essential guide to navigating today's complex healthcare landscape.

Join us for an enlightening conversation and connect with us further by checking out Thermodynamic Health’s website and social media. Your health journey is waiting—let's embark on this path together!

To help you to navigate the home buying and mortgage process, Jonathan & Steve are currently licensed in Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and Virginia, contact us today at 423-491-5405 or visit www.jonathanandsteve.com.

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Benchmark Happenings
• 7:59 Why People Love Northeast Tennessee
• 20:00 The Mission of Thermodynamic Health
• 31:00 Kevin Corbett's Personal Health Journey
• 1:08:00 The Benefits of Contrast Therapy
• 2:42:00 Community Impact and Future Plans

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

This is Benchmark Happenings, brought to you by Jonathan and Steve from Benchmark Home Loans. Northeast Tennessee, johnson City, kingsport, bristol, the Tri-Cities one of the most beautiful places in the country to live Tons of great things to do and awesome local businesses. And on this show you'll find out why people are dying to move to Northeast Tennessee. And on the way we'll have discussions about mortgages and we'll interview people in the real estate industry. It's what we do. This is Benchmark Happenings, brought to you by Benchmark Home Loans and now your host, christine Reed.

Speaker 2: 0:44

Well, welcome back everybody. And here at Benchmark Happenings, you know we always have a star of the show, and I like to think that you know, since everybody wants to move to East Tennessee, it's a beautiful place to live. We also like to be on the cutting edge of new businesses that are opening up, of new businesses that are opening up. So I am just so excited today because I feel like I've got the in on. You know me, I talk a lot about health and wellness. We've had performance medicine on here several times, but I had the pleasure of meeting Kevin Corbett. So, kevin, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3: 1:21

Thank you, Christine.

Speaker 2: 1:23

And so Kevin is the owner and entrepreneur of Thermodynamic Health that's going to be opening in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, hopefully in August, right.

Speaker 3: 1:35

Correct, correct. Yeah, we're still under construction at the moment, doing the paperwork that's got to be done, but yeah, hopefully in August we'll be open and operating.

Speaker 2: 1:44

Yes, so how we met was very interesting. We won't get into that because, kevin, I really want to. I really want you to share about what Thermodynamic Health is, what are some of those, what's the mission and vision behind health and wellness, with this fabulous company that you've started and all the things that you're going to be offering to individuals. So would you like to share some of that with us?

Speaker 3: 2:11

Yes, well, I'll go back to what you started with about people to move into East Tennessee. So we moved here 20 years ago. I grew up in Connecticut, my wife grew up in Long Island and I had worked for the Department of Energy as a government contractor for many years, and that's what brought us down to Tennessee, east Tennessee. It was a quality of life. We left Long Island, which brought us away from all of our family and friends to come down here and improve our quality of life, and it has dramatically. Tennessee has been fantastic to us. We've raised three daughters here. Two of them go to school right here at ETSU.

Speaker 2: 2:51

ETSU go Bucks. Thank you One's down at Jacksonville.

Speaker 3: 2:55

They're, all you know, student athletes and you know we've been just so blessed and so the path to where we are. So I did the work that I did for, you know, 35 years, and the timing was perfect for us because the girls had moved off to college, my wife and I were at home and we've all so many people, uh, over the last few years, and I don't know exactly what it was. We can, you know, we can all guess, but it seems like so many people have come up with health related issues recently, like traumatic things.

Speaker 3: 3:43

We've lost a lot of family and friends over the last just three or four years deaths that they didn't even know they were sick or some illnesses come upon them.

Speaker 3: 3:55

And it happened to one of our three daughters, two of them actually. One suffers some migraines, them actually. One suffers from migraines. Our middle daughter suffers from internal pain that she has, and I myself had some issues that were, I'd say, very difficult to diagnose In some cases. They don't really know what it is. They'll say we don't know where it comes from, we don't have a cure for it, but here's some medication and take it Right. And and there was no resolution. So you know, as our daughters were going through this and I myself, I mean, it took me from I've been an athlete most of my life, all of my life really, and so it took me from competing in, uh, competitively in triathlons to couldn't get off the couch.

Speaker 2: 4:50

My goodness no.

Speaker 3: 4:51

Oh it was, it was. It was unbelievable how quickly my body took a turn and all the only answers I had was, uh, medication. I was taking 28 pills and seven injections a week to maintain the pain that I was in.

Speaker 2: 5:10

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3: 5:11

Crazy Now, and I hated taking ibuprofen.

Speaker 2: 5:15

Sure and so.

Speaker 3: 5:16

I went from, you know, very, very active to nothing. Um in a in a, in a blank of an eye, nothing in a blank of an eye. And it took me months and I knew that the medicine that I was taking was not going to be my long-term answer, because I was not getting any better, I was getting worse, I was slowly going down, just going into that chronic patient Nerve pain.

Speaker 2: 5:39

I understand that, yes.

Speaker 3: 5:41

And so I just fought it the best that I could and tried to find out some therapies that I could do on my own, and through that discovery I've eventually worked myself back to a place where I feel pretty good. I'm just down to one medicine a day. I still want to get off that, but through this experience of my own and our daughters and I'll tell you just some frustration about our approach to healthcare today. So there's got to be a better way, and I've always been interested in alternative medicine.

Speaker 3: 6:15

And so I tried everything I've done acupuncture and alternative medicine therapies or vitamins or meditation. I've done it all. And then, through a friend of mine who also owns a physical therapy clinic, he and I were talking and he had a cryo chamber in his facility at one point and I tried that just for anti-inflammatory, you know, after athletic events it was. It's really good, the cold exposure is very good for you. So he and I were talking, and I had this idea for several years, about a facility that had what they call contrast therapy, which is, you know, a sauna and a cold plunge. The contrast of that therapy is very beneficial for a lot of reasons, primarily for anti-inflammatory inflammation right, it'll reduce the inflammation within your body, but also the sauna will rid your body of toxins right so you sweat it out and then you get in the cold plunge, and just that reaction alone between the hot and the cold forces your body to heal itself right.

Speaker 3: 7:28

So you're not relying on a medication ibuprofen to reduce the inflammation it's doing it naturally.

Speaker 2: 7:34

So how long would you like stay in that sauna and then get into the cold plunge? And is that? Is that for anybody? Or are there some risk factors involved in that? Really no risk factors.

Speaker 3: 7:46

No, really no risk factors okay the sauna. You'd sit in there for 30 or 45 minutes depending on what you could take, because the temperature's between 150 160 degrees. It's hot, oh, and what you're sitting in? The temperature's between 150, 160 degrees.

Speaker 2: 7:57

It's hot, oh wow.

Speaker 3: 7:57

And what you're sitting in the sauna for is not necessarily the heat, although the heat is beneficial but it's the red light therapy.

Speaker 2: 8:04

So the red light's in there too, the red light's in there, it's the full spectrum red light infrared sauna.

Speaker 3: 8:10

So the red light is the beneficial part to it, but also the sweating. And then you jump in the cold plunge. And the cold plunge that water temperature is going to be anywhere from 35 to 45, 50 degrees. It's cold and what they tell you to stay in there is one to three minutes, as long as you can stand it. And it's cold, it's hard and the shock to your body is intense. Once you sit in there for about a minute, your body starts to relax. It's amazing. You'll relax and then you don't feel the cold anymore and you'll get out, and the feeling of it is something that you become a little bit addicted to. Your endorphins are released in your body from the shock to it all and it becomes in and of itself a therapy right.

Speaker 2: 8:59

So interesting yeah.

Speaker 3: 9:01

And so along with that, we've added, you know one of the things. I spoke to this friend of mine and he said you know you've got to. I would suggest you put a hyperbaric chamber in there. So a hyperbaric chamber. So you've seen movies where divers go deep down and they have the bends, they call them, and they put them in a hyperbaric chamber. What that does is infuses your body with oxygen, right?

Speaker 1: 9:23

And again.

Speaker 3: 9:24

Your blood cells are now reacting on their own to heal your body. So we've got a hyperbaric chamber, we've got a red light bed, we've got red light blankets for maybe people who are a little bit claustrophobic and can't get in a bed. Don't want to get in there Want to get in there and they can lay it on there, and we also all have a cryo chamber which is very similar to a cold plunge.

Speaker 2: 9:43

I was going to ask you how do those differ?

Speaker 3: 9:46

About the same. It's just a matter of whether you want to get in water or whether you want to stand in just cold air, Cause the the cryo chamber today is just like a freezer.

Speaker 3: 9:54

It's a deep freeze. You get in there and as cold as you want to have it, it's windshield, it will just the temperature is really cold and it just pick up the wind and it's cold and again, it's about three minutes. You're in and out and the difference is amazing. So what we'll ask people to do is really what's bothering you, what are you dealing with, what sort of issues are you having, and try and recommend some therapies for them that will help them get through that. And it can be anything from an autoimmune disorder, chronic pain, acute pain from a heavy workout.

Speaker 3: 10:29

We're right in between a great gym and a physical therapy clinic. There happen to be brother and sister and we're friends with them and we love being there and we found the space right in between them that somebody had had. And I came back from a trip to California to look at a place out there and I came back and I spoke to this friend of mine. I said when's your tenant in the middle leaving? He said they just moved. I said we're in, so it was off and running. We just started about six months ago.

Speaker 2: 10:55

So actually the physical location. You have a physical therapist beside of you and what's the?

Speaker 3: 11:00

other one A gym, a gym yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:02

That is perfect. Perfect, yeah, exactly so is your plan to expand, kevin, to offer those services? Maybe move on up closer here to East Tennessee.

Speaker 3: 11:13

A hundred percent. A hundred percent Our. You know what we'd like to do, and again, so we're going to be catering to everybody. Our ideal clientele is everybody, from a young athlete to a senior citizen right, Everybody's dealing with something, and so we can help. We really believe we can help just about everybody with anything that they're dealing with, especially working with our neighbors at the gym, in the physical therapy clinic, and even a dermatology is right across the parking lot from us office is right across the parking lot, so we're going to be able to help one another work together and help one another and the goal is to get up and running and get a few more of these out there.

Speaker 3: 11:55

What we have there's a lot of places that are opening up today saunas, cold plunge, other facilities that have they'll even do Botox injections. We're staying away from a lot of that because we want to just we want to focus on helping the body naturally heal and we think that we can help a lot of people, and so our expansion. Well, johnson City is certainly one of the places we've got our eyes on and we want to get out there as many places as we can, as quick as we can.

Speaker 2: 12:27

I think that's wise, kevin, when you talk about focusing on what's your niche instead of trying to be a med spa with these therapies. You're offering just these therapies for individuals. And you know, god made our bodies amazing. He made our bodies to heal and unfortunately, with the COVID vaccine that happened. You know I was listening to a podcast. I was listening to a podcast the younger population we saw. If you look at the number of deaths, especially in Tennessee, there's a huge spike in that younger population, not elderly. So we know there was a lot of complications from that. It was a gene therapy, there was just. Anyway. We could do another podcast on that one.

Speaker 3: 13:15

For sure we could do another podcast on that one For sure we could yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:17

So I love what you're doing, the approach to healing of the body and really it's all about. There's so many great things out there Nutrition, eating, natural good food, vitamins where your vitamins made, what's in your vitamins and exercise. But now we've got the cryotherapy cold plunge, infrared. So tell me, what does the infrared light therapy do? What's the purpose behind that?

Speaker 3: 13:50

So it operates at the cellular level. It's going to get down through your skin and your muscle tissue, and it's going to operate at the cellular level and it's just going to stimulate it. Whatever you're doing, whatever we're doing today, we're not getting down to that cellular level to help the body heal itself, and that's its purpose, right? And so, whether you're sitting in the sauna or the red light bed or the red light blanket, it's doing the same thing. It'll, it'll, it'll get from your skin down to your bloodstream and it'll help all through.

Speaker 3: 14:20

So it has anti-aging components to it. It'll help your skin If you've got skin issues. Um, it helps with those. Um, just about everything can be uh, I want to be careful with the word cured, but it could be very beneficial for just about everybody. And you mentioned something about the. It's almost a war that we're up against, to be honest with you, between our food, our water, the environmental components and then the medicine we're putting in our bodies, we have taken our body's ability to naturally heal away. We're getting in the way of that, right.

Speaker 3: 14:58

If you just think about, you know, my grandparents, my wife's grandparents, my wife's parents, came here from Italy, right. Her mom came from Italy, her dad came from Malta and her mom grew up on a farm right, where they grew their own food, they grew their own vegetables and they would trade, you know, fruit for meat. And we actually went there. Funny story we went there on part of our honeymoon and I was startled awake the first night we slept there by somebody walking down the street yelling in Italian something. I asked my wife. I said what are they? What's he saying? He's yelling vegetables, fruits and vegetables. He's pushing the vegetable cart down the street. I said that's amazing. He said that's how they get their food every day. Well, they weren't dealing with the stuff that we're dealing with today. You know, you know the epidemic of cancer that we've got in this country. You know what's the reason? It has to be a connection to our food, has to be a connection to our water. And look, you know, modern medicine is a marvel.

Speaker 2: 16:02

It is.

Speaker 3: 16:02

It is an absolute the things we can do here in the United States Things that we can do and that the problems that we can solve for people are a wonder, and there's a time and a place for that. But I think we've whether it's just, you know, laziness or or something driving something else, we've turned a curve that now we're now just relying on a prescription medicine to heal, and I think that that's getting in our way. So if we can have somebody that can come in and they say look, I'm you want to hear a crazy statistic. Today, the average man over the age of 50 is on three prescription medicines. That is crazy.

Speaker 3: 16:39

That is crazy so if you can come in and we can help you get down to two or one or none, working directly with your doctor. So they're looking at your numbers and going. You're doing much better. These young people are dealing with long COVID respiratory issues. Put them in the hyperbaric chamber. Sometimes it's the only thing that helps, right, and the only place that has hyperbaric chambers right now are hospitals.

Speaker 2: 17:06

Right, because wound care, wound care, they use them for wound care. My background in nursing so we would put them in a hyperbaric chamber to promote healing of the wound bed because it drives so much oxygen at the cellular level. Yeah, yeah, so you're right. And that and some people, you know people don't have the luxury to have that those things at their home.

Speaker 3: 17:29

Yeah, you know, professional athletes do have red light beds and hyperbaric chambers in their home, like you said, and they're doing it for a reason, right they want to stay at their, you know, at their peak performance top of their game all the

Speaker 2: 17:41

time.

Speaker 3: 17:41

So that's the another group that we're trying to work with. Right, you know, athletes who really just want to step it up and make sure that they're, you know, at the optimal level all the time. Right, we'd love to be able to help them do that.

Speaker 2: 17:54

Yeah, and so how often can you? What's your recommendation? Because I'm sure you you provide like a. If someone comes to you, do you sit down with them? Do you, you know, have that conversation to see you know what therapies that you would recommend based on what are you basing those things on?

Speaker 3: 18:18

Some, some people will come in and they'll know what they're dealing with right this is the issue that I've got. I've done some research. I think this might help me.

Speaker 1: 18:25

Right.

Speaker 3: 18:25

And that'll be a starting path for us to say, yeah, that's a great start. Let's do that. Other people will come in and go. You know, I'd like to know more. You know, I don't know how this can help me and the conversation will be like what are you dealing with? Tell us some of the issues that you're dealing with. I've got back problems, okay, well, let's try this. You know, let's try a little red light therapy. Right, let's try a cold plunge no-transcript the therapies that we've got. That could help the time length in which it may take to improve, and sometimes it'll be more than just one, what we call modality.

Speaker 3: 19:08

Right, it'll be stacking some of these therapies, right, like I've mentioned, the hyperbaric chamber and the red light that's good for a lot of stuff, and if you stack the two of them together, one promotes the other with the healing, so it'll be much on a case-by-case basis. There'll be a lot of people who know what they want. A lot of people just want to get in the sauna. I don't want to get in the cold plunge, I don't like cold right.

Speaker 3: 19:29

So I just want to get in the sauna, right? Or I just want to lay in the red light bed hyperbaric chamber. So it'll be on a case-by-case basis, right, really excited to find out what people are dealing with and how actually we can help them. Part of the challenge, I believe, is going to be we've become a society of instant gratification. Sure, steve and I were talking earlier about just take a pill and be cured, right. We want this over fast. Well, natural healing is not going to be fast. No, it took us a long time to get where you are right, it might take you 30 or 40 years to feel as bad as you do right now.

Speaker 3: 20:07

I'm not going to say it's going to take another 30 or 40 years, but it's going to take a little while, right. It's not going to happen in a week, right, unless you've got sore legs and you want to put on some compression boots, which we also have right, that'll help you tomorrow. But these will take a little bit of time and I'm not trying to do a sales pitch here to get people signed up. But the fact of the matter is you're going to have to be patient. It's going to take some time. I'll tell you a personal experience Again. We've bought some of these therapies. We have them in our house right now. We've got a sauna. We've got some red light blankets oh nice and we've been using these. My wife and I have been using these to see if it helps and I'll be honest with you, I do see some benefit.

Speaker 3: 20:47

My issues right now is chronic pain and neurological pain, and it's really helped tremendously. I can feel it. It's a slow, slow progression towards health. I can feel it Even slow progression towards health. I can feel it even more so if I don't do it. I'm doing it almost every day, if I skip a couple of days. I feel it, you feel it, I feel it.

Speaker 2: 21:08

You know, I think, when you're talking about getting down to that cellular level, um, you know people talk about the mitochondria of the cell, that's the powerhouse of the cell, and um, so I'm a big proponent of methylene blue. I take methylene blue because I take the pill for them. I'm not going to do the liquid because I don't want blue teeth, but you know it could be beneficial for ADD, for people you know, to help prevent, you know, memory loss and dementia. So I think that getting stimulating that mitochondria of the cell, that powerhouse, and that's what these therapies can help do, as well as adjunctive things and, like you mentioned, layering the good food, the vitamins and healthy lifestyle and getting adequate sleep you know people don't understand. You know you need sleep. That's so People don't understand you need sleep. That's so important.

Speaker 2: 22:02

If we're not sleeping well, I don't think you're going to have any issues with people coming. The thing is, if you build it, they will come, and I think America has woke up Instead of going woke. We have had a great awakening and I think more and more people are wanting to have better health and I'm really excited about the administration we have now. I'm excited about RFK being on board and some of the physicians coming on board, dr Oz and I'm thinking we're going to see some really great changes. But it's going to take time. But it takes the individual wanting to take ownership of their own health and being their own best advocate. Don't you agree?

Speaker 3: 22:50

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. You know again. Yeah, you know, not just relying on the doctor to know everything, because they don't. It's all a science experiment every single day and when we walk in there's some things they know. Well, here, take this, this is going to help you with your.

Speaker 2: 23:05

And this is how they're trained. It's not the physician's fault, right? I mean, they're trained a certain way and it's a prescription and you know, a lot of times if you have somebody come in it's like, well, you just do something, you know. But unfortunately, when you know a lot of people were sent home with COVID, you know, with a pulse oximeter, and nothing was done for those individuals where we knew that with the frontline doctors there were a lot. We really don't have a name for this, or we do have a name for it.

Speaker 3: 23:42

We've given it this name because we really don't know what's caused it.

Speaker 3: 23:46

We don't know how to cure it and there is no answer for them. And there's so many people like that, that, I think, that are stuck in this place, that the only answer is a prescription medicine and, like you said, so many factors come into play here. Answer is a prescription medicine and, like you said, so many factors come into play here our sleep, stress in our lives and the food and the water and just the environment. And so we've got to really, like you said, take control of this ourselves, manage it ourselves and not rely on somebody, and all we're trying to do is give somebody the tools to be able to do that. We want them to be able to understand. We will help you, understand what these modalities will do to help you, but you got to tell us, you have to tell us is it helping? Do we need to try something else? Do you find it beneficial?

Speaker 2: 24:31

or not.

Speaker 3: 24:32

And I really hope and pray that it does. It, will it really do so we're really focused on so we want to make sure that we're capturing as much of the population as we can. We're building the facility to be fully handicap accessible.

Speaker 2: 24:46

Yes.

Speaker 3: 24:47

A hyperbaric chamber that's going to be wheelchair accessible, a custom-built sauna that we can get a wheelchair in, a lift that's going to get people from the wheelchair into the cold plunge if they're so brave. Yes, right, discounts for veterans and seniors and we're going to donate a portion of our net profits to a charity every year. So very excited. We just want to be able to help people, individuals and the community at large.

Speaker 2: 25:17

And it will. And I love what you're doing, that you're not out there saying that this is the be all end. All this is other therapies, other means that can add to what you're doing, but I think the key to any of these things is consistency, right, kevin? Yeah, I would say so?

Speaker 3: 25:34

I would say so. It depends on people's particular needs. It depends on people's particular needs. But you're right, it won't be. Let's do this for a week and you'll be cured right.

Speaker 3: 25:45

It will be consistent. You'll have to be consistent with it. You'll have to stay with it for some period of time. We don't know what that is necessarily, but, for instance, the red light bed there are programs already in the bed that will tell you if you're dealing with chronic back pain. Do it this many times a week for this long, and what we're hoping for? Just see a reduction in whatever people are challenged with, and then you can just get on a maintenance schedule, right? Yes, and it'll be just much like your exercise routine, right? I've got to get up and I've got to exercise, right? Well, you got to get up and you got to do your therapy. Also, take care of yourself, right. Take care of yourself because of the end result you're going to be healthier, you're going to feel better, you're going to live longer, you're going to look better.

Speaker 2: 26:34

Yes, right, that's the goal, and I think just you know how do you feel. Do you feel better? Yeah, isn't that amazing.

Speaker 3: 26:41

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:41

Isn't it great to wake up and feel good in the mornings. What a gift.

Speaker 3: 26:46

What a gift.

Speaker 2: 26:47

Because every day is a gift. So tell our audience. It's Thermodynamic Health, kevin. So how can they find out more about your company, what you're doing, social media?

Speaker 3: 27:02

Share that with us. Therm Thermodynamichealthcom. We've got a website. We're also on Instagram and Facebook. Look us up, like us right, follow us. We're putting up messages every week now we're letting people know what we're about when we're coming. We've got a timer on our website that says you know, this is our grand opening day, but there'll be more to come. We're going to want to make sure that we get as many people you know in the area that we can to know that we're there, and we'll also have some mobile opportunities Some of the devices the hyperbaric chamber, one of them, and cold plunge. We're going to go to events and we're going to introduce people to some of these therapies at their location, so that you know we can introduce them to them, so they can understand what's going on.

Speaker 3: 27:51

That's great A lot of this I think people have heard about, but application probably not. They haven't tried a lot of them. And then some of them they maybe just have never heard of before.

Speaker 2: 28:03

Right, right.

Speaker 3: 28:04

Again. So, and a lot of it again is just looking better. Right, the red light therapy, for instance, is FDA approved for skin care for wrinkles. Right, for acne pain relief right, FDA approved. So it's already gone through that regime of you know, getting approved and understood that it does work. So, yeah, why wouldn't you want to just look and feel better?

Speaker 2: 28:34

Absolutely Every day. Well, you get one up here in Johnson City and I'll be your best customer. My husband can attest to that, you and me both. Yeah, well, kevin, get one up here in Johnson City and I'll be your best customer, my husband can attest to that, you and me both yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:44

Well, kevin, thank you, what a privilege to have you on the show and I do like we were talking earlier. I do want you to come back. I'd like for us to talk about progress and where you're headed, and so it's very exciting. So I'm glad you and your wife and children moved to East Tennessee. You're a little bit farther from East Tennessee Oak Ridge, but we'll count you in and you've been a great asset to our community.

Speaker 3: 29:11

So thank you for what you're doing. Thank you very much. We actually have one East Tennessee in the family. The youngest was actually born here. All right the other two were born in New York and we moved them down. But they were all young and everybody grew up here and it's been a wonderful place. Like I said, tennessee has been very, very good for us. We're very happy to be here.

Speaker 2: 29:32

That's wonderful. Well, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1: 29:36

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