Ep. 76 Intuition, Reiki & Building a Business with Aude Firmin

This month we sit down with Aude Firmin for an inspiring conversation about Reiki, intuition, psychic work, and building a business around what you’re passionate about. Aude left her corporate career three years ago and has since built a career as an Intuitive Business Coach, Spiritual Life Coach, Reiki Master, Psychic, and Medium. She has worked with clients including Microsoft and Gucci and is based in London, offering distance sessions around the world. Aude’s new book, Trust the Signal, will be released this November.

In This Episode, We Talk About:

- Aude’s journey with Reiki, intuition, and psychic work

- How she incorporates Reiki into her work with clients

- Why Aude believes everyone is psychic and everyone can be a channel

- Training others in transmediumship

- How her business evolved from Reiki and psychic work into supporting entrepreneurs and their businesses

- Manifesting and attracting the right clients for your business

- Social media tips for growing your business and connecting with your audience

- Building a business if you don’t want to rely on social media

- What taking course after course might be telling you about your business or personal journey

- What it means to be a channel for the message that someone needs to hear

- Raising your prices, why it matters, and how to know when it’s time


Connect with Aude:

https://www.audefirmin.com/

https://www.instagram.com/aude.firmin


Connect with us:

https://www.instagram.com/living.the.reiki.life/


For more information about us & our offerings:

Amanda:  https://www.instagram.com/reiki_with_manda/

Kristi:  https://www.instagram.com/thebirchsoul/ 

Reiki Circle: Monday August 17th, 2026 @ 6pm CST (Saskatchewan time)

https://reikiwithmanda.as.me/schedule/775d158e/?appointmentTypeIds[]=83736771

Reiki Journey Series Application: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSewYXKFP_JyBbPP0Ia0slGIkr4ziv8NPLas1_jSISXeYuSHNQ/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=101074856999779387324

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:15

Hey, it's Christy and Amanda, two girls from Saskatchewan, Canada, living the reiki life while working the nine to five.

SPEAKER_04 0:26

Hi everyone. Uh welcome in. It is August, and this is episode 76. You are here with myself, Amanda, and of course, Christy.

SPEAKER_05 0:36

And we are really excited to uh bring you a new episode today. And Christy, how are how are things going?

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Yeah, hey everyone. Um, yeah, things have been good. Summer's been good. It's been uh really hot, um, which I love the heat. I know some people don't, but I I'm really enjoying the summer because like we have extreme weather where we are, we experience every season to its fullest. So I was thinking, you know, when you're sitting here saying, oh my God, it's so hot, it's like, well, in six months we're gonna say, oh my god, so cold. So it's like enjoy what we have while it's here. So yeah, so I've been um studying um anatomy and physiology. I'm taking a course right now. It's a prerequisite course for something I will be be doing in the future. And I must say, like, I haven't taken any science since high school, like biology. So like learning about the cell and like, or cells and the anatomy of the cell and like the nucleus and everything, like brought me right back to that biology class. And it was it's challenging to like wrap my head around, but it's also pretty incredible how intelligent our body is and the different processes our body goes through to just keep us alive, like all the way down to that cellular level. It's just it blows my mind and it makes me want to take such good care of my body because all it wants you to do is thrive. Your body is built to heal itself and for you to have your best life. So it's like creating that environment where your body can thrive. So yeah, I've been yeah, just in school mode, and it's just something I'm not used to to um learning, like, you know, curriculum. Like I'm used to learning, you know, spiritual things and stuff like that, but this is like a whole other ball game. But um, but I got through like the cells and the tissues and everything, and now we're moving into uh the bone structure, which I'm finding a little more easier to grasp. There's not as many like little terms and all those types of things, so yeah, that that's where where I'm at right now in my my journey.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Yeah, it is a lot, and you almost forget like it's it's a tough road being a student trying to learn and that mental overload and you know working the two jobs. Yes, it is a lot for sure. I love that leveling up that you're doing by learning, so that's cool thing, you know. You're in a season right now and you're you're doing it, so you should be really proud of yourself.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

Yeah, thank you. And and you know what? I I did have someone uh comment or sent us a message after the Reiki circle, and she's like, I don't know how you and Amanda do it. You guys are doing a full-time job and things on the side. She's like, I really love my free time. And I messaged her back and I was like, you know what? As long as I've known Amanda, she's always had a second job, I've always had a side hustle. Like, this is just the way life has been since we started our careers like almost 20 years ago. So it's like we don't know any different, but I think we're trying to find that balance now. It's just, yeah, it's a lot some days.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

That is so true. I have, and you too. It's either I've been working going to school, working two jobs. It gets either or, and now it's just like trying to juggle two jobs and a brand new baby. Now, this is where things get tricky, and I've definitely had to really learn to one, calm my nervous system and how important that is. And it's really teaching me to like one, you can't control everything because I think you know, people like us, we just like to be in control of our situations, too, which is also why we probably do all the things, and uh it's really teaching me to kind of take a step back and roll with what things happen and also take action when action is definitely necessary. But uh, yeah, it's definitely a lot of growth when you're riding this ride.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

It is, it really is. And you know, I I look at like some of my coworkers and I was like, what's it like just to go home and you know, just do nothing? Like, what are you like? What is that like?

SPEAKER_04 4:50

I don't know that we're all oh I know, and then I I get that where I'm like, oh, I just I want to be that person, and then that'll maybe last like two days, you know what? And then it's just like, and we're back to my programming paradigm.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

So yeah, well, it's just yeah, it's what we're used to, and and I'm not like complaining or anything, but I just found it so interesting that somebody pointed that out. And but yeah, I I'm making fun, like you know, taking days off and making sure that I go out and you know have that fun. That's so important to do is find that joy.

SPEAKER_04 5:27

Yeah, it is important. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, what what's uh what's going on with you?

SPEAKER_04 5:35

Um, okay, so well, this is funny actually. This was not what I was gonna share at all, but I'm gonna just share this other little blip that just came in. So I drove a 1984 Cadillac yesterday. Holy cow, that's old. This thing is a boat. Talk about like making time for having fun. So, like my parents came over, we all went for a drive, uh, my mom watched Cali Wheel. Me and my dad went for a drive in this massive vehicle. Like this thing is like like it's like you're sitting on the couch, yeah, okay. And going for a drive. It's hilarious. And the steering wheel is thin and like massive, like it's it's hilarious. My spouse is like all about like wheeling and dealing cars. I since I've known him, he's had like 10, no, more than 10, more like old vehicles just like recycling through our house all the time. And this one is particularly fun. But anyway, so yes, finding finding more balance there. Yeah, it's really important to like find those fun moments when you're when you're working the grind. And you know, I've had my one of my Reiki teachers, or not my Reiki teacher, sorry, one of my students when I was teaching them Reiki, they're exploring a bunch of other modalities right now and getting really into it and really finding their passion. And so they're getting into reflexology right now, and they came into the session on me this morning. So it was super fun to see his growth in his journey as a Reiki master and just going into reflexology. He's doing iridology now and really going into like the herbal natural medicine route. So I thought it was super fun to be able to kind of give back by helping him out by being his practice person. And of course, I absolutely benefited too. Um, but it's it's really cool to see people expand on their way and for us to like, you know, have an hour that I get to talk about Reiki, I get to talk about energy work, how things show up in the feet, talked about the chakras and how they align with the feet, and uh yeah, just really cool stuff. So I that that's my update. It's just really good to, I guess, kind of feed your soul on all the levels, you know.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Yes, yeah, and I agree because I I've seen this um this practitioner as well. I've been his practice client. And uh, you know, actually something that I just literally learned like 20 minutes ago with the bones is the arch of the foot is the same arch in your spine. And he was showing or saying like the vertebra, he can feel the different vertebrates along your spine on the arch of your foot. And I was like, that's so freaking cool. And I share with him like the downloads and messages I get during Reiki, and he's like, I don't get any of that. He's like, I'm the physical body, he's like, I know how to maneuver and you know, pull on, do all these things like the tie massage and just align you. So it's just it's really cool to, you know, when someone takes Reiki, just seeing which route they go. Because it's like some it doesn't have to be all about the messages and the spiritual guidance, it can be about the physical body and how the physical body moves. It's just you can really mold it and shape into what you want it to be, I I think. And and it's it's pretty cool to watch where he's gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

Yeah, it is cool. I love seeing how people's journeys unfold, everyone is unique, has their own spin on things, so really interesting for sure.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Yeah, and you know what? That's a really good segue into our new series coming up here. Um yeah, it's called um the journey series. So we want to open up the mic to our listeners, so you guys out there, and we want to share your story because you know, when I listened to podcasts over the years, the podcasts that I loved was the ones that came from real people doing the real things, you know, not someone that's got a hundred thousand followers, all these, you know, PhDs, blah, blah, blah. It's like I always learn, like, I'm not discrediting those types of guests. Like, of course, we learn a lot, but I just really love that real, raw, authentic conversation. So we created a form that you can fill out on um, you can DM us on Instagram to get that application form, or you can also email us if you're not on Instagram at uh living the Reiki Life and we at gmail.com and we can email that over to you. But yeah, we just really want to sit down with other practitioners, talk all about Reiki, talk about your journey, and share it with the world. So if you're interested, we would love to hear from you.

SPEAKER_04 10:15

Yeah, reach out to us on Instagram, that's where we have the post. You can DM us if you kind of want to keep it more private, not an issue. One of us will get back to you for sure.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Yeah, yeah. And I created the automatic response thing. I was like, I don't know how all this works, like where you comment Reiki and then it sends it to you. It's kind of cool. I figured it out. I was like proud of myself, but no kidding. Yeah, it was not as hard as I thought, but yeah, so that's a cool way to get that link. But yeah, uh, really hope people apply, and you know, yeah, don't don't be scared to share your story. You know, everyone has a story to share, whether you think and don't compare yourself either.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

If you're like, well, my story's not unique, or you know, when people think that, and it's like, no, it is, and you do have a story to share, so uh and it could be just that one line that you say that sticks with somebody and changes their whole trajectory. Yep. And if you get nervous, listen to our first podcast episodes. Trust me, we did not set the bar high, like no, and like we're super kind when we when we record anything. And trust me, it doesn't matter how long you've been doing this, people always ask, like, was that was that good? Like, you could be Oprah, and people she would still ask, you know, was that good? Yeah, it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah, yeah, it's super casual, and it's not like yeah, we can edit things out, we do our own edit editing and how Samanda does all that. So, yeah, don't ever let that um you know scare you off. I remember when I did my first podcast on the other side of things with Kayla Um from Akasha Awakened, I was I was so nervous. I had everything written out, and but once I started rolling and going with it, and you kind of just have that conversation and get in the flow, and it all went well. And it felt so good, you know, to be a little uncomfortable and you know, put yourself out there because you never know who needs to hear your story, just like Amanda said. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

Yes. Okay, we also have the Reiki Circle coming in August. We are going to have that on August 17th, and we're gonna do it at 6 p.m. CST. So that's one hour earlier than what we normally start at. Uh, we were doing 7 p.m., but that is Callie's bedtime now, and she was not having it last Reiki Circle at the end. Luckily, she pulled through, but it was horrendous. Uh for me. Hopefully, nobody else noticed. I don't think they did. No. Um, but I just couldn't be as uh involved mentally as I wanted to be because I was juggling a baby. So yeah, 6 p.m. August 17th, we will do a post. Come and join us. It's great community. Other Reiki practitioners, or even just people who are interested and have questions, it's a really good space.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hope to see you guys there. We'll have the link in our bio as well to sign up and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

Mm-hmm. All right, let's get into the episode today. Yeah. So we have a fantastic guest. Her name is Odd Furman. So Odd was really inspiring because she left her corporate job three years ago and she is living out her passion, which of course is so inspiring for Christy and I. And no, it's something that we dream to do one day. Um, she is an intuitive business coach. She even gave Christy and I a little one-on-one, which was super fun. Make sure you listen to that. Uh, spiritual life coach, psychic medium. She even teaches trans channeling and uh she does Reiki, of course, as well and energy work. Um, she has worked with some real high-end clients like Microsoft and Gucci. She is based in London, but she is absolutely gonna help you out distantly if uh you're not where she is. Um, she also has her own podcast called the Odd Furman Podcast. So you can check her out on Spotify or anywhere you listen to your podcast. And she even has a book coming out in November, and it's called Trust the Signal. So she's really intuitive. I loved this conversation. She's uh very down to earth, so just like our type of people. And uh, I think you're gonna have a lot of good takeaways when it comes to, especially if you're trying to really start off like your spiritual business. Like we really attacked her on that selfishly, yes, and I'm sure lots of people can uh get on board with that.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

So yeah, yeah, I I absolutely love sitting down with her, and I just felt so comfortable with her as well. Like, you know, like no judgment, like nothing at all, and just and she's tapped in. You can just tell that she is tapped in. So I love this conversation, and I know you're gonna get a good takeaway from it, a little wisdom nugget. So yeah, hope you guys enjoy.

SPEAKER_05 15:05

All right, so welcome, uh pronouncing that correctly.

SPEAKER_04 15:09

Yes, perfect. Perfect. Okay, so yes, welcome to the podcast. We're so excited to have you here. And uh, first thing, since we are a Reiki podcast, of course, I want to ask you about uh your Reiki journey. You are a Reiki practitioner, and uh just how did Reiki find you and what type of Reiki do you practice?

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Yeah, um so Reiki found me in 2016, I would say, something like that. I was in technology and it's Uzue Reiki that I practice. So when I when I when um Reiki found me, I was having challenges with uh um with burnout, with anxiety, and I was like, okay, I'm doing meditation, I'm doing yoga, but I need something more. And this is how I started hearing about Reiki, Reiki, Reiki, and uh this is how it all started, and it really changed uh really changed my my life.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Amazing. So did you go through um like you you're a Reiki master now? So did you do the all levels like at once, or did you kind of take your time moving through your journey, or how did that all unfold?

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Uh I think uh I'm I covered the three levels around in two or three years. At that time, I was in um I was in technology in uh product management, and three years ago I launched my holistic uh business. So now I'm uh psychic medium, reiki, spiritual life coach, and intuitive business coaching. So I use Reiki as one of the modalities to help people connect to their powers, their purpose, um, and yeah, build their business as well. So it can be a one-off session or like a session just with Reiki, or it can be a tool included with all the modalities.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Okay, yeah, I I love that uh combination there because Reiki really can like bend and flex and mold into anything, really. Like there's so many different niches you can take it in. That's why I I feel like it's such a good um starting point for someone. Like if they're in their spiritual journey, I find like Reiki finds you in that moment, and then it's like and then it opens up so many other doors.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes. Uh so I saw that through Reiki, uh, my psychic abilities really open even more. I was training in parallel at the College of Psychic Studies in the UK to become a psychic medium. Um, but yeah, Reiki really helped flow flow this even more, and I see it with my clients when I do Reiki on them, or when I teach uh or attune them to Reiki, there is like this kind of connection to source that is uh more direct. And it's amazing because everyone, I'm sure you know, girls uh receive or interpret the energy differently, but a lot of them have started having visions of like highest beings and you know, very spiritual experience. But what I love with Reiki is it doesn't have to be that spiritual, it's also like something very down to earth as well. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

And did you find that your uh abilities and gifts like that kind of open gradually the more you practiced Reiki, or did you find like right away things were really opened up?

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Um for me, my psychic abilities opened very strongly in 2014 because I had a funny story, uh an uh a ghost in my bedroom in London. So I I had to I had to face my fears, and I really believe because I've been uh training in in psychic mediumship for nearly 12 years now, I really believe that everyone is psychic. I've worked with more than 1,000 people, everyone is psychic, everyone is able to channel. But yeah, so I had the psychic awakening in 2014 and Reiki happened in 2016, if I'm correct. So it it amplified even more, but Reiki really helped me to ground because when I started seeing all this uh stuff of spirits, I was terrified. So I think the combination of psychic and Reiki really works really well.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Yeah, yeah, I can totally relate to that. I was yeah, I was scared of everything when everything opened up, and Reiki, yeah, really helped me ground and like find my own energy and then like your own power. Like, hey, I I don't need to be scared of this, I can clear this. And yeah, wow. Did you did you see spirits like with your naked eye, or was it like your third eye?

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Uh a bit of both, and also uh like uh some um some experiences of uh what I call uh psychic paralysis or sleep paralysis when you can't move or like uh psychic attacks. But what I like to say to my clients is like it's not because they learn psychic that they will have like a really bad experience. For me, I think it was more like uh uh kind of because it was my it is my purpose to have this intuition psychic. They kind of took the fast track, you know. But uh most people have like a very gentle experience. But what I see, uh, and it would be interesting to see what you uh see with your clients as well. More and more people have like light language experiences or challenge, channel alien and stuff. So I really believe it is something very natural, and for the last hundreds of years, then it became very hoo-hoo because you needed to use the human being as a factory worker, you know, don't make them channel too much. And now it's opening back, and so that's why people have like, what the fuck is going on with my life? But actually, it's uh it's happening. Uh so I think it's very important to have people uh like you uh and I to be able to manage the energies, uh, the intuitive and say, Okay, you're not crazy, you can move that, you can find some safety. Um, yeah, it's just an incredible word, you know. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 21:13

Yeah. Christy and I, we it sounds like we Reiki the same as you, like we're getting messages and downloads like things like that when we're doing Reiki on our clients as well. And I really liked what you said about how everyone is psychic and everyone is a channel. What if like do you find P do you believe that people are just naturally born like that? And what if there's a person out there who's like, I really like it, but I don't know how to tap into it, or how do I how can I be those things? How can I access those parts of myself?

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I really believe we are all channel. We are all channel of, you know, I don't want to come across as a like uh a prophet of Jesus or whatever, but we're all channel of love, channel of light. Um, I'm I wouldn't define myself as religious, I'm just like spiritual, and I don't I try not to make any identity about it, you know, and that's why also I I kind of resisted this past of Reiki for a bit because I was like, I'm not completely disconnected, like uh the let's say the corporate blocks, but I'm not full on either on like the hippie thing and since like I was like I guess my message is like we all have spiritual gifts. We are all spiritual. There is no identity to make about it and we can be proud of it. And how to develop it? Well you know when we are children we all have these experiences you know and um Amanda you were talking about your your babies and so it's like that's super psychic, they're super intuitive. And so it's more like society that put layers of conditioning and say like no it's that's your imagination. But as parents if we encourage our children to keep it or if we encourage ourselves as adults to to dive into this then we see that it opens up very quickly with synchronicities with messaging with like card stuff and again we can bring it to like very down to us things while connecting with higher being as well.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yeah yeah that's so true. Yeah I I really love that because I lots of people and they're like well I I can't see anything like everybody wants to be clairvoyant and then they're like well my gifts and then it's like but you have gifts in your own way and I think that's kind of like the part the fun part of the journey is finding out yourself and what your gifts are. I I really love helping people find that part in themselves.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Yeah and and everyone channels differently some people channels very much like the animal world some and it's this is where like all the past life come into play because you know if you were a shaman you might channel in like animal things if you were more like in so you have to a Mary Magdalene heritage then you might be more light language or like you know so it's just having this curiosity and not trying as um as a human being ego to be like yeah but I want to channel this way it's like welcome the gift you know open the channel see what comes up but also you can train so and I train people in in transmediumship so where the being talk through them and yes they are able to channel Jesus or Mary Magdalene and yes you can do it as well. Is it verified by science? No but uh you'll feel it with the frequencies that it changes uh yes people can uh channel uh they can do remote remote viewing the army the police use it so definitely it's just a question of training and confidence build up through experience experiences and it is who we are and our life is so much fuller when we are working with energy and intuition or at least the ones have experiences yeah yeah I think that's lovely working with people's own like experiences like that I think it's it's it's really important like you said Christy too is like to find their own way as well yeah but you know when I started my psychic journey I was more like uh clairvoyant I'll say and there are days where they just talk you know uh and then when I say they they spirit guides or ancestors or whatever or they're going to throw a book at my face and like okay got it different ways to get the message and the attention um but working with the power of intention really helps so uh I think in 2014 I I was binging a lot of programs on Gaia and I got really focused on the intention yeah I really want to develop my psychic skills and boom you know like it's it opens portal and you're like oh wow yeah be careful what you wish for but it's it's it's it's a really interesting experience.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Oh yeah yeah and like once you go down this path it's like there's no turning back to the way life.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

No there is no turning back and I've noticed that like places or also carry a frequency you know so if you go to the pyramids or Machu Picchu then you're kind of like energetically you remember things or you upgrade your DNA or quantum download or you call it whatever you want. But yeah is there are like this point of energetic acceleration that is quite cool to to play with as well or Sedona I was in Sedona in October November last year that was amazing. Oh no way I want to go there that's where I want to go for my 40th birthday but nobody wants to come with things I've been to all the vortexes I was waking up at 4 am to do all the vortexes i I stayed five days but I've done a lot it was good and uh talking about psychic there is Jerome the most haunted cities in the US in the US so I kept going between Sedona and Jerome to hang out with spirits and then to go to the vortexes so that was that was really fun holiday. Oh yeah that sounds amazing oh yes yeah yeah um well let's get in so you specialize in helping people kind of create their spiritual business yes yeah not just spiritual business it's like um you know I I my energy attracts I mean uh ultimately it's spiritual but it's like entrepreneurs change makers there is this commonality of really kind and good people who want to make a change and it can be translated through a spiritual business or like changing education or nature and it's such a yeah such a beautiful uh life to live uh I was not planning this you know again like things find you like Reiki I started with um opening my business with psychic and Reiki and then people were like how can you coach me in spiritual life coaching and then they were like can you help me with channel the strategy of my business so now I'm I'm a bit niche because I channel I help people channel psychically their business strategy and so it helps them to really be aligned with their business with the energy of their business because it's a living entity and so they get clients much more easily the energy flow. So yeah it's it's fun and again it's given to everyone so it doesn't business doesn't have to be boring. Actually business conscious business is rising more and more yeah I I love this idea of even like not even just working with a spiritual business but like any sort of business because it it is an entity and it takes a mind of its own and it's something that you just have to nurture and go with the flow and you know you make mistakes you learn from them and you grow but to have somebody to coach you and help you I think that's that's really amazing um and we were wondering like do you ever see like a common mistake that people make when they're first starting their business off is there anything it feels more like there is this kind of energetic imprint you know or or conditioning for example a woman is very much the fear of being seen the imposter syndrome putting prices that are lower uh you know like boundary stuff and that's a good thing is because when we channel and we are more like in the higher self frequency channeling then this kind of thing start to shift and the beautiful thing about the business I think is the best spiritual uh teaching it can give you because you face all your fears you know like literally you put yourself your head on the table uh not that uh dramatic French but uh you know you you you remove layers and you go deeper deeper and you learn so much and again like the the energy the intention you put in the business translate in how you attract clients how yeah so I I really believe in I mean I believe in marketing and I use marketing but I really believe in the in the manifestation of clients through the energy you you you display you know if you're someone authentic people will find you and be like oh thanks god I met Christy and Amanda because finally authentic people and like open hearted so that's super important.

SPEAKER_03 30:24

Yeah that really is and Amanda you you even write down like your ideal client like you call them in like you're really intentional about that and that's that's powerful.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

You got to I agree with you that energy that you're putting in to your practice to even all your like your marketing like yeah it really matters.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Yeah yeah I used to I mean I uh and you know like social media of course have more people with more engagement but at the end of the day it's who you attract you know I've I've had the luck and thank you for this to really attract really good people in in three years of uh creating this business and one of the rules I I gave myself uh not strict rule is like if I don't feel like doing something and of course you know you did need discipline for a business but if I don't feel like creating a piece of content because I don't feel inspired I will not do it because people feel it you know because it's like an orchestra so of course yes you can do chat GPT but it looks it's it's flat you know so I love the idea of channeling the business strategy and then using AI to templatize but you need the essence the juice like a perfume to be your your juice if it makes sense yes oh I love that because yeah like I I've gone like I don't even know the path last time I posted on Instagram but it's just like it always felt forced it's like oh I should post today but it's like but what do I post and then it's like well I could do something on AI but then it doesn't come from the heart and nobody's gonna resonate with that because I I follow this one astrologer and she started doing all her posts on AI and she said she watched all of her likes and followers just drop and she said no but everybody could feel that energy and she came out and she said you know I'm sorry she's like I was using AI and this doesn't feel right so she revamped everything but it was kind of like a cool experiment you know like people can sense that absolutely absolutely and you know of course it depends uh the goal you want to have of it like virality and stuff and of course it's great to have virality but at the end of the day I think working with Reiki working as a light worker is like helping people to transform to shift so of course our our human egos and me included of course it's like oh yes I want lots of likes but at the end of the day it's like how can we shift life and sometimes it's just one person. So if it inspires one person even if our human mind is like oh I wanted more likes it doesn't matter we we did our job. So it's like kind of showing up as a as a lighthouse and often what I've seen with my clients and even myself like a less catered pose like very taken with the energy of the moment has much more authenticity has much more impact than just like you know so people are are waiting are looking are craving human connection. Yes and that's uh catch 22 with social media and it's good that you you you saw that you don't like social media because now you like you can be like how can I make it like playful for me? How can I make it more authentic because we see what is good or not if it's just a a projection at the end.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

Yeah yeah yeah we both struggle with really putting out content on social media like luckily this podcast is our save like yeah and it's a great way for people to get to know us and who we are and uh but even like for myself like me and my spouse we don't really would like to post our kids on social media I I I just don't want to post a lot of like personal stuff right like Christy and I both have never really been like that. But like that's not really the end all would you agree about doing that or what what other ways would you encourage people to kind of promote their business if they wanted to kind if they're kind of like us they're having a hard time with things like that.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Yeah yeah yeah yeah you know I will um that's why like it's good to to tune in to tune in inside and like to like to close eyes and generally with the session I I do I and you know we can do we can do it during the podcast but I can do it separately with you girls um is to see uh really feel intuitively and energetically what's aligned so we have like the the heart speaks to us so you can say that you psychically channel information but your soul knows so it's being able to access this information so you don't use the same template as everyone because again like going back to AI AI is good but AI is a heavy lifter of your like the work of your soul if we can say um but you know like your path might be podcast so you don't have to be everywhere. So for me it's like when I see that like for example uh how I turn up at a session and off a like a service I have in my business and I'm starting to be like then I'm like okay it's telling me maybe I'm going to close this service and just focus on this one. So it's just understanding like the tilt of the inner compass and not trying to logically work this out of course you need to to make uh some some strategic decision but to trust uh that's the that's um title of my book to trust the signal you you you will get some signal you know so if you got some signals like social media is not my stuff go for it if it's like more like a kind of I don't feel like I can do well on social media that's different that's a limited belief system you know so it's this you differentiating between intuition and uh limited belief system if I can say and it's all about the energy it's all about the frequency so that's why tuning inside um helps to differentiate the two voices if I can say okay yeah I feel like there's lots to unpack there because like when I tune in it's like fear of being seen or being judged or like you know being like oh she's crazy or you know like sharing like some stuff from the heart. Energetically energy is it okay if I tune in into your energy Chris? Yeah for sure psychically okay cool um yeah so what I see is more like um a limited belief system and we all have limited belief system so it's more like you have this beautiful um romantic and emotional soul and you feel like uh social media is a bit like this kind of marketing machine full of shark and full of fake people which it is of course yeah but it is uh it is our job as a soul incarnated to also create the world we want to create you know so it's like kind of looking at the world outside and say ah they're all fucked up that's it I'll be like okay how can I how can I uh tune in with my energy to send the message that will reach the people who need it so I started uh when I created my business I started putting content about psychic on LinkedIn I was banned a few times but I don't care like psychic mediumship and spirit on LinkedIn and you know they they love it so may maybe not everyone is going to like but they're going to watch and who knows the the impact it can have on someone to come on to a video of Christy or Amanda talking about Reiki and channeling higher beings. So yeah most people uh we think people judge but people are more curious than judging and when they judge it's just they kind of are afraid but you you two don't have the energy of like uh crazy people one you know you are I don't know you but I know you you have like a a soft welcoming warm feminine energy so whatever you talked about already like this going to be with this energy and you don't look like crazy hippie sorry for the hippie so already this is this is going to carry a message of credibility and and so that's why I I went through this fear of talking about psychic on LinkedIn because I was like okay I I'm going to not change myself so look a bit like modern you know right and actually it's going to kind of be mind-bending is because oh she's not the the normal psychic medium with uh lots of crystals around her you know she seems normal so it's actually opening a doorway to them but yeah it it takes some good spot and uh and then uh you find your people so it's more like the role of the lighthouse to show up and to see uh that we don't have to be afraid and often sorry I'm talking a lot but then I'm going to wrap up on this but often the sphere that we have as women is all the witch hunt you know and witches it was not just uh magic you know anyone your neighbors wanted to get rid of you just say you're a witch you know very easy to get rid of someone so it's like conditioning energetic patterns that we can um release as well because we are called for something bigger okay no that was awesome yes that was great is this is this kind of was that like a taste of what people can expect if they book in to kind of help with their business and that was fun yeah yeah absolutely and you know that's the funny stuff is like people come either for Ricky or psychic or directly for intuitive business coaching but at the end it's always the same story it's like the hero journey and you know not just for me and my business but for us as a soul and you through your business the hero journey of of releasing fear and going back home and going back home is not okay we die it's like understanding that the the the real it's all inside of us you know all the answers but also like the sort of competition there is no competition because again like someone who who is meant to work for christy with christian it we will be an energetic match but because we've been educated in a patriarchal society and the vision competition then it's like oh yeah put the work put the work no show up show up so they can find you but uh people who are going to resonate with Christie or Amanda or all will be different at soul level and it's okay it's meant to be that's how we receive the abundance and Reiki for abundance manifestation is really good tell me tell me tell me more about your journey because I'm talking about me but I definitely want to to hear about you I said for me like yeah yeah yeah yeah I find it I find it hard to yes in engage myself on social media because I just don't want to yeah like I yeah I'm funny like I just I find it a lot of like work to put out content and be on top of it like I think you gotta be like three times a day and it's just like do people really care what I'm doing if I'm not doing a Reiki session and then I don't really want to like videotape my sessions because I'm like is that like an invasion of people's privacy like I don't really want them to to feel like that and then you know and then it almost feels gimmicky to me.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

I don't like and and I love watching other people's stuff when they post about it. So I don't know what really my deal is.

unknown 42:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Yeah yeah it's interesting because the the energetic read uh for Amanda is different Amanda she's like okay this is not my past but I feel like Christie is more like I want to open my voice there but I I need to find like the like the uh my soul to to have like the okay validation yes you can do it yes you have a message to share yes you can do it your way and actually you don't have to change yourself because like the whole goal of the soul is to be at its most authentic self. Same uh um Amanda when I was you know when I was working with AI and stuff like okay put a client testimonial or share and I was like I don't know I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that and as you say like um privacy and stuff and I've always loved uh speaking a bit too much sometimes and I was like I prefer speaking if they don't want to like it I don't care but I I don't want to to betray my soul you know and I that's why I feel like if you if you watch a lot of things sometimes it's it's like oh the energy will be coming because you have the curiosity and then there is a materialization in your life. So I've always watched uh a cartole like like speakers so cool I love them so so that's what I see it's it's nothing is by chance it's like a puzzle that is putting it into place and nothing is random at the end.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

Yeah yeah that's very true Christy Christy you're going to be a speaker girl what oh my goodness that's funny that is funny you know I actually had a dream that I was doing like a speech when front of like a bunch of people which is like one of my worst fears is like public speaking and like doing this podcast has Really opened up my throat chakra. It's like a lot of healing has happened, but it's like nobody can see me when I do this. So it's like when you stand in front of people, it's a whole other ball game. But yeah, that that's interesting. You see you say that. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Yeah, yeah. I used to have these fears as well, but um, it's um I guess what really helps is yeah, to go back to this uh this concept of being a channel, then we see it's not personal. So uh one we can't fail, no, what is good, what is success, what is it? It doesn't matter if you want to have goals of financial whatever, but we can't fail. I mean, it's impossible. It's it's just it's just an experience, everything is an experience at the end. Again, we interpret it as success or failure, but it's an experience to to that leads to something else. Um, I don't know why I'm talking about this. But so so if when we are a psychic reader, a Reiki practitioner or a speaker, we just carry a frequency. So the frequency is not good or I mean, technically it's not good or bad, it's just a frequency. So that's why when I started doing my psychic readings, of course, at the beginning I was stressed out about like, oh, is it going to resonate or not? And then I'm like, I'm just a channel. I'm just a channel. I pass a message, if it resonates, cool, if it doesn't resonate, cool. Uh I'll try not to take it personally or not to make an ego. And when the more I relaxed, like a Christie voice, the more the channel opens, the more the resonance matches, the more people, uh the happier the people. So yeah, it's like, and that's like the beautiful art of surrendering, but it's it is a journey, it is a journey for sure.

SPEAKER_03 45:51

Yeah, I like that though, like the thought of like not being able to fail, and like who cares if it doesn't resonate with 10 people, but say it resonates with that one person that they're like, wow, you know, that really I needed to hear that today. So yeah, thank you. I like that. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

Yeah, yeah. You you never know the impact you can have on people, you know. Imagine someone super depressed in the street and you you smile to them and it really helps that. You you you we never know, you know, no one makes uh a small impact, it's not true, you know. It's again this is uh the brainwashing of social media, but it's just like putting your little stone and say, Hey, maybe someone will pick up this stone and it will be good for them, you know. Yes, and that's how like there are lots of stones coming in good ones, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:45

Um, you know, I wanted to, you know, another thing that I think about when just getting back to like getting those clients, and maybe you're not a big social media buff. I have this energy that because I don't like posting there, it has to come in a different way. So it's like it'll come in the the way of least resistance, right? So I'm like, yeah, well, you'll just have to find another way, university. I don't have to worry about how it comes or how they find me, you know. Like I'll I'll do other things, right? I'll put myself on like search engines and and you know, the podcast, and maybe it'll just find me that way or word of mouth. I love organic recommendations, yes, yes, yes. So I'm like the energy just needs to be almost in that frequency of deserving those clients and maybe of like how many you want, right? Being really clear about that intention, and then just they will find you. Sometimes you get found in the weirdest ways, and I'm like, oh, that's so fun.

SPEAKER_00 47:41

I know, I know. It's yeah, it's it is a kind of like you you're the captain of the ship, so you put the ship in the direction, but then you let it flow. And so that's kind of like not attaching too much on like the outcome, the shape. So, for example, when I started my business, I was like, okay, I'll go more to like companies and group and corporates, and the universe kept sending me more like one-to-one, one-to-one, one-to-one. And at the beginning, like, no, no, this is not what I want. And like, okay, hey, if they send you one-to-one, you accept the one-to-one, stop moaning, you know, it's for a reason. And I I it's incredible because again, working with lots of different people all over the world, uh, a lot in the US, but you know, change makers, and like, wow, that's so cool because it's a one-to-one, but that has a big impact on on lots of different parts of the world and society. Um, and yeah, and so I had this vision of like public speaking, and then I'm like, whatever. And then when I let it go, boom, then it starts to happen. So, so yeah, Mandela, you you it's totally true. It's like kind of like you send the bottle uh to the sea, you don't know how who's going to catch it, but you just know. It's like you you're driving, you you know, you just know, you brainwash yourself, I'm going to have this parking slot in two minutes there, bam, manifestation. Or you could have put the energy, contract to the energy like, oh, I never find a parking slot, and you never find it.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

We are we are creators, but yeah, when it is on clients and therefore financial, I think it's the ultimate um it's the ultimate test because you know we've been educated so much in like happiness is money, financial security, da-da-da. And uh, I have an energy that took a lot of people, sorry, corporate, a lot of people from corporate to creating their own business. And so there is this like topics of um of magnetizing clients, and but the moment once the moment um you freak out too much about like I'm not going to find clients, then again it's a contraction of energy. So I I try I I encourage them to tune in and to channel the best client, to channel a vision so that they can relax, they know it's happening, and then the energy is open, they feel more confident in 3D, and then it happens much more. Because if you are on LinkedIn with someone, you're like, We're okay, I sell this. Well, they're like, I'm not going to work with this person. But when you have like when you know it's happening, they're like, ooh, what does she have? You know, it's it's just an energetic game, it's not bullshitting game, it's just an energy game at the end.

SPEAKER_03 50:31

Yeah, that's so true. Like what you put out there is what you're gonna get back. And yeah, something else that's coming to mind that I know a lot of our um listeners are curious about is um, you know, when somebody is like a serial learner, like all they do is like collect certificates, do all these things, and they're just like, I can't get my business off the ground. They're just like kind of stuck in that learning. And it's like I see so many different things happening when people do that. It's like they're scared of doing the work, they're scared of practicing or focusing on one thing, and they're like off to the next shiny thing. So, what what would you tell someone that's like going down that route?

SPEAKER_00 51:12

Stop hiding. Oh, okay. Stop hiding and and stop hiding, Christy. Stop hiding.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

Maybe asking for a friend, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Stop hiding. Your your your your channel, sorry, I'm too psychic. Your channel, so you already have the codes. It's not, I mean, great if you have a certificate, it's not your um your diploma that does the transformation of your clients, it's your energy. So your role is just to show up. That's it, and uh, and to let them access your energy. So I had a client this morning, she was like, Oh, I created a great pitch deck and I will send it on LinkedIn. I like show yourself on the call, should put yourself in energy contact in person or online. Online, you see, like, oh, we have this massive exchange of energy right now. So of course it works. But um, you know, when when people came to me and were like, Can you coach me in spiritual life coaching? I had zero idea what they were talking about, you know. And so I was like, obviously, do I need to uh did did I um yeah? So I was like, Do I need to to have a spiritual life coaching diploma? Am I an imposter? But on the other side, I have my clients who already recognize me as a coach. So it was like a big chicken and egg. And for me, I just I just trust message I received. So I'm like, okay, I'll just I'll just tell them, well, I don't have a diploma, but yes, let's do that. You know, okay, I'm not lying. And it went uh yeah, a massive result. So again, it seems like the past lives, your energy, everything as a code. If you want to feel more confident with a piece of paper, no worries. After that, I pass diplomas in spiritual life coaching, that's what's blocked, you know. So now when my clients are called to do coaching and guidance, and I see that their soul is ready, I'm like, go for it, just go for it. Yeah, you've it is a life training, and of course, there are things that uh it can be refined, like trauma coaching, but your soul has a purpose, and um, being a perfectionist is just a procrastination, and trust me, I was there.

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Me too.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Yeah, that perfectionism piece really gets a lot of people for sure.

SPEAKER_00 53:41

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but again, going back to the channel piece, when you when you are like, okay, I'm just a channel, it's not about like Christie, it's not about Ode, it's not about Amanda, then it helps us to relax because it's like if the universe has brought me this opportunity, then it means I'm already ready. So it is a spiritual test for myself first to be like, do you think, do you trust yourself enough to say yes? And yeah, it means like doing a bit of a Tom Cruise or jump from the helicopter stuff, but then you will see you can do it. Yeah, that's right. And and the message, and the message I got for you is like click Christy that you are ready. You are definitely ready. You know, but that's and also it's um it's the good thing about divine timing is again you have this arrangement of synchronicities and so again, like why is Odd giving a message to Christie today for Christy to be to be uh validated and start doing it, you know? So it's not like you wasted your time. So again, it's it's like teachings that brought you here. So that's right, because a lot a lot of people are afraid of losing time or uh be like, oh, I should have started when I was 18.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

Yes, that's me for sure. Even taking this like time out right now to like be with me and my baby, like you should have seen the anxiety I had about it, and now I'm like, really? What's what is like months or even maybe a year to slow things down out of like 80 years? Like, really, I'm gonna stress about this small, and like time is so relevant, anyways. It's yeah, it's so crazy. But I really stressed things really shifted though once the baby came out, and it was just like my priorities, everything were just like, yeah, no, and like yeah, that's weird. I'm really really time. I used to be now.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

It's easy, it's how we control things, how we try to control things, but it's um we I mean it's just an illusion. I'm I'm the first one being a control freak as well with time, but now I'm like, you know, again, um it really helped me like uh again, if it's a situation or a person or whatever comes through an account post on social media, I'm like, okay, it must be for a reason. It must be for a reason. I don't understand yet, but often then I understand it later, and it was like a protection, or you know, like someone asked me to send, for example, my book sample to an agent, and then my mom who is very sick, it was like, be careful, and like ah, that's that's why that's why it didn't happen this weekend because I needed to hear this message, so it's just starting to have some trust that if things don't align the way you want, it might be for a reason, and often it's really good for you, and it's just a matter of time for you to understand why. So having more and more trust. And for you, Amanda, uh, the psychic message for you, baby, is uh to to let go of control, to let go of control and to ask for more help as well. To ask for being more supported in your life, so that's also like the the spiritual teaching of this.

SPEAKER_04 57:05

Yeah, that lands for sure, and I yeah, even asking for help spiritually, but even like with you know, resources around me, like physical help too, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Yeah, and you're a good mom, you're a really good mom, you know, as a message that comes through.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

Oh, that's good. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

I love that.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Yes. Uh, do we have time for just one more quick question? Yeah, yeah, go fight, go ahead. Okay. Um, what would you tell people who like they kind of want to raise their prices? And I I think I know you're probably gonna tie this back to maybe self-worth. But like, um, what if people are when do they know it's time and how can they make sure when they do raise their price, they feel confident about it so they're still attracting those people because if they don't believe they're worth that price, those clients aren't gonna come.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:58

Yeah. So, like, what would you what would you tell somebody?

SPEAKER_00 58:01

Very good. So I um uh to to think about first the amount. Um, so it depends whether in the um let's say the business journey, I was about to say psychic journey. But let's say they create a business and they want, I give an example, they want to put the price at 50, but they know that I don't know, in six months' time they want to put it out at 150. It's like girl, just challenge yourself and just put it at 150 now, because the pain, the pain of increasing, increasing as you may feel it, is uh is uh worse, it's worth you know, having the bigger pain first or like the bigger fear to to face first. So like matching it at 150, like your higher self. But um I will say it it's a it's going back to energy. When we let's say we have a Reiki session or a psychic session and we start feeling some resentment. So let's say your your psychic, your Reiki session uh again, dummy number is at 50, being like, oh my god, so so little. Then you have the message that your boundaries are not uh not crossed because you set the price, but it's not aligned with you anymore. And you're like kind of thinking about, thinking about, thinking about. Again, it's not to bug you, it is your intuition is telling you this is not aligned with me anymore. And also, so yes, self-worth, of course, uh money reflects self-worth, but what I've seen as well, and it's not to say we shouldn't have affordable business for people, but the level of transformation a reiki session or a psychic session or a coaching session have on people is very dependent on prices. So I have um my prices are middle-high prices compared to the UK or international market, I'll say. Um, and I I help also to allow me to help people with lower budgets and stuff like that. But unfortunately, what I see with human beings is it's not necessarily because I put a low price, because I have less money that there will be more transformation. So, in some ways, asking someone to stretch themselves a bit more financially helps them to see that they can go to the next stage if it makes sense, or they they can have this transformation. So, of course, it's a it's a touchy topic, but it really depends on the intention, the energy, the values you put behind it. But um what I want to remind uh us is you know, when you go to your dentist and you pay $300, it is a transaction, you know. So it's not uh because it's spiritual and it was initially with monks or whatever, that it's less noble. And unfortunately, if someone pay $15 a coffee instead of five dollars, they would be much more appreciative with a $15 coffee, even if it's the same crap than the $5 coffee. So people put value and transformation in the price. We can't undifferentiate that. And actually putting a price that is a bit higher reflects uh the quality of your work, you know, with ethics, and um and help them to invest in themselves energetically and shift them. That's what I've I've noticed. But yes, it will uh it will uh it will scare you. Um and the last thing is the only way to go through to go to face a fear and to to let go of a fear is to go through it, you know. So let's say you want to put your your session at 300, the only way to see if it will work is to do it, and then to have a night of like oh, and then you have a client, and then and then you keep going, and then you'll be at 400, like oh, and it's just a number. It's just a number, it's just a number and a value and a fear, or like oh, it's low or high, but let's say it's 300 can be very low for someone or very high for someone. So it's just a a question of perspective and the value you give yourself, if it makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

Yeah, it's really true about paying like you pay attention when you when you're paying for something, you take it way more seriously than if you were to take a free course, or if you're investing your money into something, you're like, all right, this I gotta make this worth it for myself, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Yeah, yeah, and and you know, it's interesting, it's five five five. Let me just check this because it's um it's a message like talking in angel numbers. So five five five, uh yeah, major life changes are coming. Embrace transformation, release limiting belief, and step out of your comfort zone. So that's the message for you girls for the for the prices. Yep. Yeah, so wow. So yeah, it's it's it's also seeing that it is serving them. Again, we've been conditioned by religion, da-da-da. Don't give, don't take, blah, blah, blah, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Uh, again, respect religion, but not this limited belief system. It doesn't serve us. And if it if if it helps people at the end of the day, you know, that's good. And you can't, you know, let's say Amanda is charging low prices, then she's not going to be very happy, then she won't put the right energy in the business. So you need to fuel the car in order to make it work. So it's really understanding what is my good amount of financial freedom, so I can be happy to do this business. And this doesn't become like a just a job, like the worst thing, you know. We didn't create this business for them to become like a job.

unknown 1:03:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:52

Yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:56

It has to be worth my time, and I want to feel good, like, oh yeah, that felt right. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

And that's the thing, felt right. If it doesn't feel right, then there is a something that needs to change. That it is like the prices, uh, is it in person, online, whatever. Is it the right climate client match? Because saying yes to every client um might not be also the right thing. So now I'm I'm selective because also I can now, but uh, but even before, I wouldn't take someone who doesn't respect me. Yeah, because it's not good for them. The transformation won't happen anyway. Yeah, so it's like, okay, we're not a match, it's dating, so go find someone else. And it takes a lot of power because then the universe is going to send you more people. It's been like, oh, she passed the test.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:47

Yeah, yeah, I've had that happen before. That's so true.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

Yeah. Money, money, um, yeah, you you can earn money in uh in the right frequency, or you can just have lots of money, and then it's like kind of uh not darky money, but it's it doesn't bring you necessarily anything good. So it's like which frequency do you want to attach to it? And which belief system is but it is a journey. We all have this. I'm not better than you, I just uh and I'm still learning, you can trust me.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:20

It's a really good, it's a sometimes we get um so caught up in trying to just get as many clients as we can. Like you don't want those clients that don't resonate and don't vibe with you. You don't. I know I don't it yeah, it really does make a difference. It's a really good point to really absorb in.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:38

Yeah, and and what is the energetic cost? Because yes, yes, you have clients and money, but what is the energetic cost to this? Because everything has a cost. So if you're feeling super tired, grumpy, uh so it's all about alignment and energy. It's like, is it does it work, or does do I feel tired and grumpy after? And then thank you, I release you. I've you will find someone more. line with you.

unknown 1:06:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:03

That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:05

Well that's that's probably a good place to end it actually on that note because I know we we're kind of at the end of our time here. Oh yeah that went quick wow I know it was good really quick it was really good thank you so much 30 minutes for sure but that's this is great.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:23

Yes thank you so much for being on here and we really appreciated you where can people find you we want to book a session and get to yes yes so I I'm based in London but 80 80 85% of my clients are abroad uh in beautiful us and everywhere else and I'm on social media uh yeah and otherwise my website uh wwodfirm.com so yeah and I have like free 30 minute consultation so they can start experiencing the shift and yeah we'll love to to have you there because it's you'll see it's beautiful but thank you so much I love the the energy shared together and and keep in touch yeah yeah thanks so much thanks for the messages today and yeah I appreciate you and we'll link all that below so thank you so much girls yes thank you take care bye bye bye bye bye okay and uh Christy is going to leave us all with a card pulled today yeah all right so you know if you've been following my journey I haven't um been resonating with the Oracle decks as much as I have before and I haven't actually picked them up probably since our well it's been a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

But I pulled some cards and we're gonna see what happens here. I opened up my channel to my um my spirit guides and that they can channel through me a course at the highest greatest good of all and let's just see let's roll with it and just see what happens here it's so funny it's like like I see them push the cards away and they're like you already have the message to share and this message came through um when I was sitting outside this morning and yeah sorry I'm just collecting my thoughts here what was all coming through. Okay yeah so it was the word spirituality spiritual journey all of that has been recycled reused regurgitated so many times on in the spiritual community that it's losing its I want to say essence and this is something that resonates with me if it doesn't resonate with you of course leave it but what I've been learning through this journey is it's I'm not calling it a spiritual journey anymore. I'm calling it a journey back to self because that's essentially what all of this is is you know when we go out and we buy the crystal we buy the book we buy the oracle deck what we are truly doing is we're trying to find that essence within ourselves we are going back home to ourselves to who we were at seven years old before that intuition before life told you who you are and who you need to be we're taking those layers down paper by paper layer by layer we're taking it all out so even though you know these things are called spiritual tools in a spiritual community it's not necessarily that we need to use those words you can use whatever word that you want I'm not saying that it's wrong to say spirituality or spiritual journey or anything like that. It's just as things change and as our beliefs shift and when we're on this journey it's important to reflect back to what is true to yourself. What are you doing? Why are you on this journey? You know when we can get caught up in the um spiritual materialism you know I need this I need that I need this to learn I need that course before I can step out and share my voice and do what I need to do it's like release that is what I'm hearing. And it's like yes of course it's important to invest in yourself and invest in other practitioners and things like that but it's also important to invest in yourself. And as I'm saying that they're like the investment is your time with yourself. The investment is for you to sit outside and meditate and be quiet. That's your investment that is you putting money in your own bank account like money quote unquote right if you look at it that way that is your debit um or credit sorry I always get those two mixed up going back to accounting class but um yes so I'm just gonna see if there's any final thoughts here it's just yeah coming back home to yourself what does that mean to you and you know I was thinking like where does this fit in astrology or anything like that what season are we in but it's like we're even taking that piece out of it and it's like you need to go with the flow and go with what is in your heart. It doesn't matter like well hold on they're correcting me it does matter what is happening in the outside world but you need to tune in and listen to the inside world first. If you want to help people you got to help yourself first it's so so important we've said that many times that you can only take your clients as far as you've taken yourself. So listen to your heart tune into your heart find that space even though it's two minutes five minutes a day but tune into your own heart and you will be surprised by what you hear when you can hear your own voice and you know sometimes your guides come through and you know you're like well how do my guides communicate with me and you know it's not going to be this big booming voice it's like hey you need to do this it's like you need to learn your own language so what they're showing me is like you know if somebody wants to learn sign language it's like we start with like learning hello goodbye yes no with our hands that's how it is with the communication with our own soul so if you go in guns a blazing it's like you need to be patient with yourself when you meditate maybe you only get maybe you get a rose or maybe you get a tree or s or a feeling like the wind brushing on your face listen to that and what does that mean to you so it's not always these big grand journeys like you know like Amanda and I we share a lot of our highlight reel of our journey but we're not sharing those moments in between and the time that we have spent with our own selves and our own journeys and being quiet and listening to our heart.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:46

Yeah okay that's funny I see uh I see my guides like you know uh the stage where they have like um the hook and they're yanking someone off the stage it's like okay I'll get off my soapbox here and end it there but because I I feel like I could go on about that message but I feel like I got what was meant to say across so all right well I guess that answers my card poll so that's not that is funny about the about the cane coming out yeah like the cartoon it's like yep no we're done here like okay okay so I kid you not Christy this morning I was like should I invest into this course for myself you said that and I was like oh this is like really hitting me home so I was like you know what and I like I sat with it I was in the shower right now I'm like does this is this a good idea like you're on maternity leave right and then I was like no it's always a good thing when I invest in myself I always get a good return so I'm like you know so it's funny and I did it so that's really reaffirmed today that I made the right choice but yeah so funny I know it's good to invest in yourself like you will get a good return on your money especially if you have to actually spend money what I did. But yes that's really funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

That is funny just yeah you just never know and you know even when you pull cards and you say things it's like oh I needed to hear that today yep that was also meant for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

It's so funny how messages can be so universal and the timing too like you the person listening to this it could be in December but this message might still hit home for them at that time right yeah exactly finds you when it needs it yep totally does all right hey yes thanks everyone for listening and make sure you give us a follow on Instagram rate the podcast if you can uh okay oh people who leave comments on um the uh like Spotify or Apple I don't know how to respond to them I'm sorry I don't I love reading them but uh just DM us on Instagram if if you want to try to get a hold of us if you have a question about the episode that's that's a better way but thank you for leaving them and leaving us a review that's awesome and make sure you follow our personal handles mine is Reiki with Manda and mine is at the Birch Soul right well we'll see you guys next month and thanks for tuning in