Sounds Fake But Okay
Sounds Fake But Okay
Ep 368: Same Podcast, One Year Apart (The Sixth Year)
Hey what's up hello! For our last episode of the year we're returning to our annual tradition of recording the same episode one year apart, a la the Billie Eilish Vanity Fair interviews.
Thank you for another fantastic year! We are so grateful for you all and will be back in your ears in 2026!
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SARAH: Hey, what's up? Hello! Welcome to Sounds Fake But Okay, a podcast where an aro-ace girl, (I'm Sarah, that's me.)
KAYLA: And a bi demisexual girl, (that's me, Kayla.)
SARAH: Talk about all things to do with love, relationships, sexuality, and pretty much anything else we just don't understand.
KAYLA: On today's episode, ‘Same Podcast, One Year Apart.’
SARAH: Year 6,000.
KAYLA: It could be.
BOTH: Sounds fake, but okay.
SARAH: Welcome back to the pod.
KAYLA: Hi!
SARAH: So, this is our last pod of the year…
KAYLA: It's a Friday night.
SARAH: It is, we're podcasting on a Friday night because things got silly.
KAYLA: Because we're freaking getting crazy.
SARAH: So crazy. So crazy silly. This is our last pod of the year, we didn't give you much warning on that.
KAYLA: We didn't. We did not.
SARAH: We didn't decide this until yesterday, so.
KAYLA: Sorry.
SARAH: So, this is our last pod of the year, which means it is ‘same pod, one year apart’ o'clock and we'll be off for three weeks and we'll be back on January 11th.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: Housekeeping.
KAYLA: Housekeeping.
SARAH: Keep this house like Santa Claus on a roof on a house mouse. Go.
KAYLA: Right. I mean, the first housekeeping is that we're gonna be gone for a couple of weeks, don't throw a party, don't be crazy.
SARAH: If you do, it has to be really low key.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: If the cops get called, you're grounded.
KAYLA: You're grounded.
SARAH: You're so grounded. If anyone has to go to the hospital, that's a problem.
KAYLA: You're dead.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: The string on my pants is like...
SARAH: Can I tell everyone what Kayla said before we started recording? She's wearing these pajama pants and they're man pants and so they have a…
KAYLA: They have a button
SARAH: A penis hole, is that what you were calling it?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And she was like, “this penis hole is really small.” She goes, “my dick won't fit.”
KAYLA: It wouldn't, my dick is really big and this hole is not big enough.
SARAH: And then she had to go ask Dean about the logistic… She was like gone for like a whole minute.
KAYLA: I had to ask. I had to ask. It just seems impractical, but apparently it is easier than like pulling down your whole pants but like, I just don't know about all that. I guess I'm used to having to pull down my whole pants no matter what's going on.
SARAH: Right, exactly
KAYLA: So, to me, it's like, just pull down your pants.
SARAH: Right. Don't be lazy.
KAYLA: Don't be fucking stupid, just pull down your pants.
SARAH: Anyway, what were you doing?
KAYLA: The string is… like, I can only… the other side of it is in the pants....
SARAH: Oh, that’s the worst
KAYLA: So, should I just rip out the whole thing?
SARAH: No.
KAYLA: There's no way to fix this.
SARAH: I've fixed pants like that before
KAYLA: How!?
SARAH: It takes so much sadness.
KAYLA: I know, and now it's really bothering me, I'll tuck it in.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: My dick is so big.
SARAH: Kayla's dick is just so big.
KAYLA: Okay. The other housekeeping I have is that we have a Discord if you didn't know.
SARAH: Tea.
KAYLA: And we have some absolutely amazing moderators in there who keep things so lovely and safe and fun and they recently did some fall cleaning because there are so many channels, it was just getting so disorganized, so many things just all around. So, they did a bunch of fall-cleaning, they made it so much more easy to use, so nice and organized.
SARAH: Hell yeah .
KAYLA: So, a big shout out to them.
SARAH: Thank you, mods. Can you fall-clean my life?
KAYLA: A big shout out especially to Tort because they were like leading the charge and were being slay.
SARAH: Slow and steady wins the race.
KAYLA: Exactly. And I gave them special extra mod privileges. So, if anything, if someone steals the Discord from us, it's them.
SARAH: Tort is going to fuck things up.
KAYLA: So just all know that is I gave them enough power to really fuck it up, so.
SARAH: The almighty Tort.
KAYLA: The almighty Tort. I gave them their role in Discord was called mod plus.
SARAH: Mod plus.
KAYLA: Mod plus. Anyway, I also got a request from the mods to mention Treeador, which is like a…
SARAH: Treeador. Me and Treeador used to have a very serious love affair.
KAYLA: You did. Treeador is like a plugin, I guess, for Discord.
SARAH: You feed… you water the tree.
KAYLA: There's a channel in the Discord where you can feed a tree and fruit comes off…
SARAH: Get bugs off of it
KAYLA: And you get bugs away, it's like a little game thing.
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: But there's a leaderboard for all of the trees and all of the Discords in the world and Treador is at the top 320 now.
SARAH: Hell yeah.
KAYLA: And there's a lot of trees, so that's very exciting.
SARAH: Yeah, I stopped watering Treeador because of my ADHD.
KAYLA: Right .
SARAH: Because when you first start, the time in between waterings is like a couple of seconds.
KAYLA: But now it's much longer.
SARAH: Now it's like, I don't know, six years. You water it and then we have to wait six years before I can water it and I don't have the patience for that.
KAYLA: No, that’s fair
SARAH: Also, I had to offload Discord off my phone because my phone is full.
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: I need to fix that. Do you think the mods can fix that?
KAYLA: Maybe.
SARAH: I will pay you in crisp high fives and… what else can I offer you? I don't know, I have little. Cat pics.
KAYLA: So yeah, I'd highly recommend joining our Discord. I forgot about this tradition until I was in there more recently. There’s a day, I think it might be Christmas Eve. There's a day around Christmas where in the Discord, Mariah Carey's Christmas song is played on loop for like all day.
SARAH: I didn't know this.
KAYLA: It's like a holiday, like people have it in their calendars.
SARAH: Wow.
KAYLA: It has been a thing for years.
SARAH: I'm such a horrible cult leader.
KAYLA: I remember this vaguely from a of couple years ago, I don't think I realized like how much of a thing it was.
SARAH: I'm an absentee father.
KAYLA: I am too, it's okay.
SARAH: I'm like more… like, I have Discord offloaded, dude.
KAYLA: That's okay. But I think the holiday is still happening this year, perhaps just in a new channel.
SARAH: Great.
KAYLA: But even if it's not, I know there's like Jackbox nights happening.
SARAH: That's so cute and fun.
KAYLA: There's so much to do, so you should go be in there.
SARAH: I love that for the class. Maybe if I can finally empty my phone more. I was considering getting a new phone or getting like a refurbished phone, but then I was like, “no, I'm committing to the phone that I have. I'm just going to fucking clear this motherfucker out.”
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So hopefully I will do that soon and then I can re-emerge in the Discord because I won't have to have the app offloaded.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Hee hee! I posted a photo on the Discord the other day because I got a cat toy that was a hat and it was the aro-ace flag colors and then it was a piece of cake. And I was like, “well, I have to get this for my cat.”
KAYLA: It’s perfect
SARAH: And so I did but I had to post it from my laptop.
KAYLA: That's really funny.
SARAH: Anyway. Okay, pod, what are we talking about this week?
KAYLA: This week, it is our annual podcast where, like Billie Eilish with… who?
SARAH: Elle?
KAYLA: Variety?
SARAH: Vogue?
KAYLA: Elle? Like, Billie Eilish with that one publication, they do a video every year, except they skipped a year or two and they ask her the same questions.
SARAH: That's what we're doing.
KAYLA: That's what we're here to do, for the…
SARAH: 600th time.
KAYLA: Maybe this is six?
SARAH: I don't know. We're old, we're 100,000 years old.
KAYLA: This is the sixth year.
SARAH: Mm
KAYLA: We did the first one in 2020.
SARAH: 2020.
KAYLA: 2020.
SARAH: You know, every time someone says Miami, I go, “Meeamee,” and that is your fault.
KAYLA: “Meeamee” I know, I know.
SARAH: I didn't even watch that fucking show.
KAYLA: It's a good show from what I remember from like 20 years ago.
SARAH: What is the name? Burn Notice? Burn Notice.
KAYLA: Burn Notice.
SARAH: Okay. Anyway, great. Let's start. One, what is your name?
KAYLA: My name is...
SARAH: Why? I'm so sorry. I went on my Instagram and the first...
KAYLA: Well, why would you do that?
SARAH: The first thing on my explore page looked like a butt plug and I said, “what?”
KAYLA: Oh
SARAH: It's a Christmas tree, but it's a butt plug.
KAYLA: That's a butt plug.
SARAH: Sorry. I was so shocked by that that I had to alert the masses. Okay.
KAYLA: To be fair, you've been watching a lot of gay sex content…
SARAH: I've been watching Heated Rivalry.
KAYLA: So, like if you got that advertised to you, I wouldn't be surprised.
SARAH: And I've been getting exclusively Prep ads, which…
KAYLA: Which we love.
SARAH: Like, safe sex is important. Okay? Prep is great.
KAYLA: But not for you.
SARAH: I'm not the right audience for it.
KAYLA: No. No.
SARAH: Anyway, what is your name?
KAYLA: My name is Kayla Marie Kaszyca. And this is the part where Sarah says, “and I'm Sarah Costello and you don't get to know my middle name.”
SARAH: Okay, sure. What's today's date?
KAYLA: Today's date is Friday, December 5th, 2025, 10:44 p.m. Eastern Time.
SARAH: 7:44 p.m. Pacific Time. How old are you? We're 28.
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KAYLA: Oh, I was going to say 27.
SARAH: Yeah, I answered that because I knew you wouldn't know.
KAYLA: It's like it's the same podcast every year.
SARAH: That's so weird how that works.
KAYLA: It's so weird how literally the whole thing happens the exact same every time. It's literally the exact same every time. If I went back to look at the transcripts, which I do every year, and then we play this game where we say, “oh, look what we said,” it’d be the same.
SARAH: And then you're like, “and then when I look at the transcript…” it's just like it goes forever, it's like a Russian nesting doll.
KAYLA: It like really is. It really is.
SARAH: Okay. How do you identify?
KAYLA: I am a biromantic, demisexual, cis whoman.
SARAH: Go off, queen. Whoman with an H?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Okay. That's cool. I'm an aro-ace, motherfucker.
KAYLA: Yeah?
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: I love that for you.
SARAH: Who knows? Do you want to know something really silly?
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Go on my Instagram.
KAYLA: Oh, no. I have a guess, I'm going to be really mad if I'm right. I knew it. I knew it.
SARAH: Do you know how long that has been there?
KAYLA: How long?
SARAH: Take a guess. Okay, tell the people.
KAYLA: Since this time last year!?
SARAH: Tell the people.
KAYLA: Sarah's pronouns on her Instagram are now she/they.
SARAH: Uh-huh, how long do you think that has been there?
KAYLA: The war is over. Since this time last year.
SARAH: How long do you think that has been there?
KAYLA: Three months?
SARAH: I wrote in my phone when I changed it.
KAYLA: No, were you waiting for me to find it?
SARAH: Yes.
KAYLA: I'm so sad. I'm so sad.
SARAH: Let me double check the date. I'm pretty sure I remember off the top of my head.
KAYLA: I've actually never been so sad in my life.
SARAH: I do need to check.
KAYLA: I'm actually… You guys. It was meant for me to find just like when she came out as aspec on Tumblr. I'm so disappointed in myself, I'm really slacking.
SARAH: Oh, it's really funny. And you know what was also funny? I think it was like the pod anniversary. We had a Q&A and you were doing questions from Instagram and I was doing questions from Discord and there was a question on Discord that said, “is Sarah non-binary yet?” It was like, “has Sarah changed her pronouns yet?” or something. And I skipped it on purpose because I was like, “no, it has only been a week.”
KAYLA: Ugh! I'm so upset with myself.
SARAH: It wouldn't be fun if I said it now.
KAYLA: I'm so upset with myself.
SARAH: So silly.
KAYLA: Because y'all know I've been waiting.
SARAH: I just gave up.
KAYLA: That's fair.
SARAH: I did the thing, you know when I just decided to change my Tumblr bio to say aro because I was like, “whatever, I'll just try it on.” I was like, “whatever, just whatever, I don't care. I don't fucking care.” So.
KAYLA: Yeah, I love that for you.
SARAH: Nothing else has really changed, but…
KAYLA: But there we are.
SARAH: I am so proud of myself for that little shindig I pulled.
KAYLA: I'm so mad. I'm so mad.
SARAH: I have a note in my phone that says, ‘she/they, 7/27. How long will it take Kayla to notice?’
KAYLA: I mean, like, because when am I going to your Instagram?
SARAH: I know, but it's just so silly.
KAYLA: Like, there's no reason for me to be there.
SARAH: I'm so silly.
KAYLA: I'm really sad. I'm feeling really sad.
SARAH: I'm so silly.
KAYLA: You have much more patience than I do because...
SARAH: Listen, I was not going to let the joke die after a week.
KAYLA: No, that's fair. I'm just thinking about today when I could not hold my patience on something for one day but you did for months.
SARAH: No, but that's different. Because, okay, this though, the longer it lasts, the funnier it is.
KAYLA: No, that's fair, that's fair.
SARAH: So. Okay, Kayla is just heartbroken, #Wasted.
KAYLA: Okay, is this usually the question where we talk about your gender or is there a different one?
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Okay, well, do you have anything else to say?
SARAH: No
KAYLA: This is usually like my big topic of the year, it is Sarah's gender.
SARAH: I don’t know, fuck it. Who cares?
KAYLA: Okay. Well, I'm happy for me because I've been waiting.
SARAH: Congratulations to you.
KAYLA: Yeah, I don't care about you at all. I’m happy for me.
SARAH: Good. But if you were like, “what is your gender?” I would be like, “I don't know. Bye. See you later.”
KAYLA: Do you think you would ever consider an agender?
SARAH: I don't know, I feel like probably not.
KAYLA: I don't see that for you.
SARAH: But if I have to fill out a thing and it's like, “what is your gender?” I'm still likely to just kind of just put woman because I'm like, “I don't want to fuck with this shit.”
KAYLA: Yeah, your gender is ‘I don't care.’
SARAH: My gender is silly.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: My gender is sillier than yours. Okay, how many social media followers does the pod have? No one cares.
KAYLA: Oh
SARAH: How many patrons…
KAYLA: I was like, “okay, I'll just go do some math.”
SARAH: All right. Do you want to actually answer that question?
KAYLA: Nah.
SARAH: Great. How many patrons does the pod have?
KAYLA: I can find that more easily. Maybe I can't. Well, we have 283, what they call ‘active members,’ but those aren't all like paying patrons, so.
SARAH: I thought we had more than that, because the Patreon changed it so that then you can be like a… you don't have to be paying but then you… it's… they made it confusing.
KAYLA: I know. Well, I'm going to say 283.
SARAH: 283 total, 106 paid.
KAYLA: Where did you find that?
SARAH: It says under overview.
KAYLA: I don't know.
SARAH: Sure. Thank you to all of those people, I don't know why you give us money.
KAYLA: I don't either, that's so silly.
SARAH: You're so brave.
KAYLA: But we appreciate it.
SARAH: Do you have a job? Well, what's your job?
KAYLA: I have a job, I work at the Harvard Law School.
SARAH: What? Like it’s hard?
KAYLA: I had a promotion, I got a promotion lately.
SARAH: Yeah. Okay, wait, we can tell people that that was the thing.
KAYLA: Okay, yeah. For the past several months when I've been like, “there has been a thing that's supposed to happen and it keeps… I'm waiting, it keeps on happening,” it was my promotion getting like going… like getting officialized or whatever.
SARAH: Yeah. And now it has happened and here we are.
KAYLA: It happened and it's like extremely anticlimactic because I waited like weeks and I knew it was going to happen and it just like was held up by like, you know, whatever.
SARAH: And then the union was like, “it'll be soon.”
KAYLA: Everyone kept being like, “soon TM.” And I was like, “when?” “When TM?”
SARAH: Incredible.
KAYLA: It happened. And now everyone is like, “oh my God, yay. Congratulations.” And I'm like, “whatever. I'm over it already. I'm already over it.” They ruined the fun.
SARAH: You manifested too close to the sun.
KAYLA: Noooo, just kidding, I'm very grateful of employment.
SARAH: Employment
KAYLA: No, I am excited, it's good and I'm excited. It's just like, you know, bureaucracy sucks the fun out of any promotion.
SARAH: Yeah. Yeah.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: My job is the same job I've had. I actually need to talk to my boss about what my job is because that's a great question. What is my job? What am I doing?
KAYLA: Yeah. What is it? That’s a good question.
SARAH: Well, because the company has gotten bigger so it's like some responsibilities have been taken away from me.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Which is great, I love having less responsibility.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: But I don't know…
KAYLA: But what is your responsibility?
SARAH: But what is my responsibility?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: But that's not a matter that you all need to worry about, just me. Where do you live?
KAYLA: I live in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
SARAH: Massachusetts.
KAYLA: Massivehugetits.
SARAH: Massivehugetits. And you live with your finance.
KAYLA: I live with my finance.
SARAH: I live in the same place I've lived the entire time we've done this.
KAYLA: I've moved so many times, I've been everywhere.
SARAH: Kayla has everything and I've just been in one place. What is your relationship status? You've changed.
KAYLA: I've changed, I have a finance now.
SARAH: Yeah, she's a financial advisor.
KAYLA: A fiancé, I have one of those now.
SARAH: I guess you'll have one next year too.
KAYLA: I will. I'm really excited next year... Well, I'm not going to tell you all my wedding date, I don't think, maybe at some point I will.
SARAH: She's getting married on a day in a year.
KAYLA: Right
SARAH: It's a weekend.
KAYLA: And a month as well.
SARAH: And a month as well.
KAYLA: But there is over a year until… we will pass our wedding date... We're going to have… our wedding date is going to happen…
SARAH: Oh, you have like a negative anniversary?
KAYLA: Yeah. So, we're trying to decide what we're going to do for our negative anniversary.
SARAH: That's good.
KAYLA: So, if anyone has any ideas.
SARAH: Or I guess it would be a zero anniversary because.
KAYLA: I guess, I don't know. But yeah, we're trying to… I was like, I kind of feel like we should do something that's like the opposite of a wedding.
SARAH: Divorce.
KAYLA: Right. We were thinking divorce, we were thinking orgy, we were thinking funeral, there was a lot of ideas thrown out.
SARAH: I mean, you can make a funeral happen.
KAYLA: Yeah, I guess I could, I guess I could.
SARAH: I mean, if you make a funeral happen, it might kind of disrupt your wedding plans.
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KAYLA: Well, it depends on whose funeral it is.
SARAH: And whether you get caught.
KAYLA: And whether I get caught, right.
SARAH: My relationship status is silly.
KAYLA: You're making it sound like…
SARAH: No, it's not, my relationship status is nothing.
KAYLA: Right. I was like, it makes it sound like you're hiding something.
SARAH: No, I'm not.
KAYLA: No.
SARAH: I'm a new mom.
KAYLA: That's true.
SARAH: To my furry child. She's evil.
KAYLA: And we're more in love than ever, so.
SARAH: Truly. Exaaaaactly.
KAYLA: Exactly. No, exaaaaaactly.
SARAH: Exaaaactly. What was the best part about this year pod-wise?
KAYLA: What did we do?
SARAH: I think we did it, we did the pod.
KAYLA: Did we do anything good this year?
SARAH: Our best.
KAYLA: Let's look at our episodes. Literally, what did we do this year?
SARAH: While we're thinking about that, let's also think about what the worst part about this year pod-wise was. The worst part about this year pod-wise is that I… It started taking me longer to edit.
KAYLA: No. We only had two guests this year!?
SARAH: We're so silly.
KAYLA: I remember at the beginning of this year, I was like, “we're going to be good at guesting this year.”
SARAH: No.
KAYLA: Oh, three if you count Dean.
SARAH: My mom is here right now. Do you want me to pull her in?
KAYLA: Yeah, let's get her. Let's get her.
SARAH: I forgot. So, don't worry about that. Oh, it doesn't take me longer to edit the podcast, it's just because I have gotten a better workout schedule, I start later in the night so I can't edit in one day. Like it usually takes me two or even sometimes three days to edit because I have less time for editing.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So, it takes up more of my week, that's the worst thing.
KAYLA: That's fair. I found another guest that I hadn't seen as I was scrolling through the list. So, we had four, including Dean.
SARAH: Okay. Once per quarter.
KAYLA: Once per quarter. Looking at it, I really liked reading, we had Debbie Urbana… Debbie Urbanski.
SARAH: Yes.
KAYLA: Oh my God. I did the same thing I did when we first had her on, I tried to call her Urbanansky, anyway. We had Debbie on to talk about Portalmania and I really loved that book. So that was slay.
SARAH: Good times were had by all.
KAYLA: I think the best part of this year pod-wise is that we're just like getting really good at just fucking chilling.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: I love to fucking chill.
SARAH: We love to fucking chill.
KAYLA: So, that's pretty cool.
SARAH: We say a whole lot of nothing and that's how it should be.
KAYLA: And that's great. And that's actually great.
SARAH: Yeah, as the good aspec lord intended. What was the best and worst part about this year personally? I got a cat.
KAYLA: And is that the best part or the worst part?
SARAH: That's the best, the worst part is I'm allergic to my cat.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And I keep getting covered in hives. I had skin prick tests this week, I had all sorts of things. I'm going to start getting allergy shots, but it's not… we still don't really know why... It's all very silly.
KAYLA: Yuck.
SARAH: Hee hee! Yes. So, my year juice is I got a cat. She is my child. She is a gremlin. She is the best. My beef is I keep getting so fucking itchy all the time. I'm so itchy. I'm finally back on my allergy medication because before the skin prick tests, I couldn't take my antihistamines.
KAYLA: Awful.
SARAH: So, I was off of my antihistamines for a week and then they gave me steroids so that it could help.
KAYLA: And then she was off the steroids and she was so sleepy.
SARAH: Right. We were supposed to podcast yesterday, but in addition to me not having gotten enough sleep, I also went cold turkey off the steroids and it made me so sleepy.
KAYLA: She was unwell, I fear.
SARAH: Hee hee!
KAYLA: Hee hee hee.
SARAH: Hee hee.
KAYLA: My best parts of the year, I got engaged, pretty cool.
SARAH: Yeah. On the same fucking day I got my cat.
KAYLA: On the same day that Sarah… Because I love to make things about me.
SARAH: Trying to steal my fucking thunder.
KAYLA: I love to do that. I also had a princess birthday party this year where I made all of my friends dress up as princesses and my parents came and they dressed up as princesses and we did like crafts and it was like a toddler birthday party and I was just so pleased.
SARAH: I love that for you.
KAYLA: I was so pleased.
SARAH: Next year Addie will wear her princess costume.
KAYLA: Oh my God, perfect.
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: The worst part of this year is that the world is bad.
SARAH: I just remembered my grandma died.
KAYLA: Oh no.
SARAH: I was like, “wait, that was pretty bad.”
KAYLA: Let's just think of all the bad… Let's just really ruminate on that.
SARAH: Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
KAYLA: No, it's okay. I can't think of like, I mean, I'm sure there are specific things that happened that I'm just blocking out now, but like I think just the general awfulness of the government and of other governments.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: It's bad.
SARAH: It's tough. Rate your mental health 1 to 10.
KAYLA: Okay. I don't mean to brag, but I graduated therapy this week.
SARAH: You graduated therapy?
KAYLA: So, I had been seeing my therapist for a while, just like every other week, and for a long time we would like get on the call and just like not have much to talk about. And then recently my therapist was like, “I'm changing some of my insurance stuff and I'm going back to in-person. So, my schedule is going to be weird.” So, she was like, in a couple of months, she's not going to take my insurance anymore. So, she was like, “let's figure out what we're going to do.” And I was like, I don't know, like I'm feeling like I'm chilling. Like I'm not getting like a whole ton out of this. So, we were talking about options and then later in the session we were talking about some other stuff that was going on with me and I said something about how I handled a certain situation and she was like, “that is the healthiest thing I've ever heard you say.” She was like, “if I could graduate you from therapy, I would do it right now.” Like you're good, like you're chilling. So, we were like, okay, let's just like not schedule anymore appointments for now. Like I'm still… she still takes my insurance for a couple of months so if I need her, I can go back, we can like go back to things, whatever. But for now…
SARAH: Aww, she's a graduate.
KAYLA: She's chilling. I was like, “I won therapy.” And she was like, “yeah, tell all your friends.” And I was like, “I will.”
SARAH: See, I finally started going to therapy again. Here's the thing though. She's always like, “I don't know, it seems like you have this pretty much under control, it's not that bad.”
KAYLA: Noooo.
SARAH: And I'm like, “when you say that you're kind of right, but why is my brain so mad about it still?” You know?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Like, why do I feel bad if I have it under control? What's that all about?
KAYLA: I fear… Do you like intellectualize everything?
SARAH: I don't know.
KAYLA: Because I've heard a lot of people have problems with that in therapy with like, because they know what's going on, it makes it seem like they have it all like fine and figured out, you know?
SARAH: I think I also have this problem where I just get used to whatever my baseline is and then I think that's normal and fine.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Like when I was at the allergist this week, my mom was with me because my mom is in town, and so I said, “mom, we're going on an adventure to the allergist twice.”
KAYLA: Twice!
SARAH: And the doctor was like, “oh, do you have like post-nasal drip?” And I was like, “uh,” he was like, “do you cough?” And I'm like, “yeah.” And he was like, “well, do you have post-nasal drip?” And I was like, “ah, maybe.” And I was like, “define post-nasal drip, because I've heard that term, but tell me what it is.” And he like said… and I was like, “yeah, maybe.” And my mom was like, “what are you talking about? You absolutely have that.”
KAYLA: You're like, “that's just life. Doesn't everyone do that?”
SARAH: And then he like looked in my throat and was like, “oh yeah, you have that.”
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And I was like, “oh, I didn't notice because I'm used to it always and that's just what it's always like.” So, I think that's part of my problem.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And then the doctor was like, oh, like, you know what? On a scale from like zero to 100%, like 100% being like, you're not experiencing any hives, anything at all, where are you at right now? And I was like, ah… with the medication I'm taking and stuff, I was like, “I don't know, like 85?” And my mom was like, “huh?” And I was like, “80?” And she was like, “huh?”
KAYLA: Listen… Okay, well it's a good thing that she went with you.
SARAH: It's also because of her that I got a referred to a rheumatologist, so.
KAYLA: That's good.
SARAH: This is why I need to bring my mom to all my appointments.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Anyway. But yeah, I think I just accept whatever my baseline is and I'm like, “oh, this is fine.” And I have a hard time gauging what is not fine. Also, this week I was talking to my therapist and she was like, “it sounds like a lot of the stuff that you're describing sounds like what people experience when they have trauma.” And I was like, “I don't have that though.”
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KAYLA: Mm… huh
SARAH: And I was like, “if I don't have trauma, why am I like this?”
KAYLA: “What does that mean, ma'am?” Huh.
SARAH: Like what?
KAYLA: “What an interesting thing to say.” Huh!
SARAH: Huh!
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: Mm. Anyway, my mental health, one to 10? Oh wait, so you graduated, but what? Are you going to give that a number?
KAYLA: I would say like an eight at this current time.
SARAH: Okay. I literally don't even know. I can't answer this question because I… what is my baseline? An acceptable baseline? I don't know.
KAYLA: I don't know. This is why I don't like rating things one to 10.
SARAH: My therapist thinks that I have my ADHD like more or less under control, but do I?
KAYLA: I don't know.
SARAH: I don't know either, that's my answer. How confident are you in your identity one to 10?
KAYLA: A nine. I say this every year, but I feel like a full 10 is never like…
SARAH: It's too much.
KAYLA: It's just not realistic, you know?
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: Because you never know.
SARAH: Yeah. Well, that's mine. I don't know. I've been quite certain about my aro-aceness for some time. Gender is silly.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: I don't know. Like, I am confident in the identity of me being like, yeah, that's what it is but if you asked me to use a word to describe that, I'm like, “I don't know.” I can't give you a word.
KAYLA: Just a vibe.
SARAH: Just a vibe. I bring the vibes.
KAYLA: Vibe out of 10.
SARAH: Vibe out of 10. How comfortable do you feel in your own body one to 10? It depends on the day.
KAYLA: Yeah. Maybe like a six and a half.
SARAH: That's not bad.
KAYLA: It's not bad. I was really good before we got engaged and I like knew it was coming, I was like in the gym. I was like, I'm going to look snatched in these pictures. So, I was really happy with what my body was looking like at that time because I was like fit looking.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: And then I kind of fell off and now it's like winter and I'm just like not. So now I'm like not... so, now I’m like, I miss what I looked like when I was being more healthy.
SARAH: I get fucked up around the holidays because I can't go to the gym because I have the cheap Planet Fitness membership where I can only go to my home gym. So, yeah, I don't know, sometimes like a four. At Thanksgiving, my uncle, my uncle, uncle, who is my great uncle technically
KAYLA: My uncle, uncle?
SARAH: Apparently asked my father if I had been bodybuilding.
KAYLA: Oh my God, work.
SARAH: And I was like, “okay.”
KAYLA: Really? Thank you.
SARAH: Okay. Arms.
KAYLA: That's so funny, what a specific thing to ask.
SARAH: So strange. I don't see him very often. So, I guess he would notice if I were… if I just looked… I don't know.
KAYLA: You just look swole.
SARAH: I'm just swole. I did see a picture of myself from a couple of years ago and I saw my arm and I was like, “ooh, I have more arm now.”
KAYLA: I mean, that makes sense.
SARAH: Congrats to my arm.
KAYLA: You've been working on your arm.
SARAH: Negative congrats to the rest of me, but whatever. Just tough. I am arm. How often do you should? Honestly, not that often.
KAYLA: I have been finding myself in a real battle with shoulds in wedding planning specifically.
SARAH: Mm
KAYLA: And it is something I'm very aware of, so that's helpful. I will say… I'm sure we'll talk more about wedding stuff like as time goes on. The amount of wedding content we have taken in on this podcast has impacted my wedding planning more than anything else so far.
SARAH: My sister sent me a Reddit post yesterday about a wedding…
KAYLA: I don't want to hear it from her, I don't want to hear from her and Reddit any longer.
SARAH: No, she specifically… she gave me… she said when she sent it, she was like, “it's safe.”
KAYLA: It's clean.
SARAH: I haven't read it in the whole, but I've saw the preview and it's wild. So, when we come back we will be hitting on that.
KAYLA: I can't wait. I can't wait. But I just… the stuff that we have read on Reddit… and like I knew this before, right? Weddings, like tensions are high, lots of emotions, whatever, I was aware of that. But just the amount that we have read, I am like extremely aware of the like social dynamics at play. And so, I'm like very aware of that, but also need to keep reminding myself that like it's my wedding and I can do whatever I want.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Which I have like people around me that are always reminding me of that, so that's helpful. Like anytime I talk to anyone, like my friends about it, they're like, “yeah, that sounds great. Do whatever the fuck you want.” And I'm like, “oh, slay.” But so that is where I've been finding myself shoulding the most is like while doing wedding stuff of like, oh, well, this is what you're supposed to do or what other people do or what this person would want me to do.
SARAH: Who cares?
KAYLA: Who cares? Girl.
SARAH: Don't listen to the almighty should. The way I was like, maybe my relationship with my body is a three, it doesn't fucking matter.
KAYLA: Uh-oh.
SARAH: It doesn't matter. Continue. I just was getting distracted. What do you want most for the aspec community in the next year? I will have cut out most of that silence, but please know that me and Kayla just sat in silence for so long. I believe last year I said peace.
KAYLA: We're like so much more disconnected now than we used to be that it's like, I don't really know what discourse is happening. Like, again, it would be easier for me to speak to what I want for aspecs in general rather than like the community capital T capital C, if that makes sense.
SARAH: Then hit me with that.
KAYLA: Because I don't really… like, the online community, I think it was specifically, I don't know what they're up to right now.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Like I don't know what's going on.
SARAH: Yeah. I don't either. If you don't know, I certainly don't know.
KAYLA: Yeah. For the broader, just like aspecs in general, I just… it sounds like so sad, because in the past, I feel like I've like reached really far of like, we could get more representation or like work things into like legislation and whatever and I feel like at this point we are like receded so far that I'm like just like some basic safety.
SARAH: Yeah, that'd be nice.
KAYLA: And security would feel good.
SARAH: Perhaps a bit of understanding.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Yeah, that would be nice.
KAYLA: Like I don't think I can reach so far as to be like, “mainstream media.” Like I don't think we're there anymore at the moment.
SARAH: Yeah. #backsliding. Am I right, ladies?
KAYLA: LOL.
SARAH: What gives you hope?
KAYLA: Ugh
SARAH: You know what does give me hope? As much as the AI bullshit is horrible and the worst.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: There are a lot of people who really fucking hate AI.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And who really like are very… like, you see like tweets that are like anti-AI and they'll have like 500,000 likes.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And I appreciate that. I hope that we can channel that anger into making the internet better and safer and only using AI in ways that is beneficial. I don't have… to be honest, I don't have a lot of faith that we'll be doing that anytime soon. But like I do appreciate that there are a lot of people who are like, “hey, this is fucked up and maybe we should stop putting profits before everything.”
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: But there are also a lot of rich people.
KAYLA: There are. I will say I do feel relatively hopeful about the AI situation, just being… like working and going, like taking classes at Harvard, I've like gotten to be around a lot of conversations about like AI and where it's going and like technology in AI law and like business practices is like something that's being heavily talked about and like it brings me hope that like the experts are like, “okay, we've figured stuff like this out before, like when computers came into the world,” like “we've figured this shit out before and it has been regulated and we did it and we'll do it again.” Like it's new and it's scary, but also in a lot of ways, it's the same as things that have happened before.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: So, I'm like, oh, okay, that makes it slightly less scary.
SARAH: Yeah. Hopefully we can get things regulated and then we won't go back on all those regulations.
KAYLA: LOL.
SARAH: And hopefully those regulations come like sooner than like 15 years from now.
KAYLA: Yeah, well, yeah. What brings me hope is joy. I think that just like seeing people still have very joyful moments is really great because I think it's easy just to be like, I'm just going to be like doom all the time. Like everything is awful, but no, like joy is also resistance and like being able to have those moments and like celebrate things and things like that is like, no, we can still do what we want, you know, and like push back in that way.
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SARAH: Yeah. Harnessing anger is important, but you can't be angry all the time.
KAYLA: No. And it's like, it's okay. Like I think sometimes it feels like guilty to be feeling that joy and like have a good time when other people are clearly like suffering, but it's like, no, you can't be sad all the time.
SARAH: Yeah. You have to have something to keep you going.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: What are you most worried about right now? I still have written down what I said last year and it hasn't changed.
KAYLA: What do you have?
SARAH: Genocide, fascism and the decline of global democracy. I would like to add to that AI. I know I said that people speaking truly of AI gives me hope, but I am also very worried about it.
KAYLA: Yeah, I would say that those are the same. Oh, another thing that gives me hope was the elections, the last election season that we had, that was pretty slay.
SARAH: Yeah. Inshallah the Democrats don't fuck it up.
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: I think the other thing I'm worried about is literacy. And I mean that in the sense of like being able to read, but also media literacy.
KAYLA: Yeah, media literacy is so bad.
SARAH: And I am concerned for some of the younger generations and it's not entirely their fault… like it's not their fault that it's so fucked up.
KAYLA: No
SARAH: COVID happened and schools are worse and you know, all these things.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: But I do hear things about like what teachers experience and they are scary.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Or that fucking girl recently who didn't answer the essay question and then got her trans professor fired for it.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Not a good fucking essay. Didn't answer the prompt, didn't cite anything and then she was like, “I was discriminated against for citing the Bible.” And it's like, actually, you didn't cite the Bible, you didn't cite anything.
KAYLA: No girl.
SARAH: Anyway. A year from now, where do you hope the pod will be? Having a long winter's nap.
KAYLA: Chillin'.
SARAH: Yeah. Just because a year from now it'll be right before next year's break. So, I hope it's having a nice nap.
KAYLA: I hope we're doing this exact same episode.
SARAH: Yeah. Will it be interesting?
KAYLA: Probably not.
SARAH: A great question. A year from now, where do you hope you'll be?
KAYLA: Chillin'.
SARAH: Chillin'. Last year I said writing and I think I have been doing better at that.
KAYLA: I feel like you have too.
SARAH: So that's good. I would also like to continue to be doing that next year. I would like to... No, that's too ambitious. You know, a couple of weeks ago my therapist was like... I'm like a really goal-oriented person. She was like, “are you...” And I was like, “no.”
KAYLA: No, noooo.
SARAH: “I don't set goals. What are you talking about?” So no, I won't be doing that because then if I don't reach it, I will say, “oh no, I'm a failure. I have to give up on everything.”
KAYLA: Yeah. No.
SARAH: I would like to have finished something long, writing it.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: A draft.
KAYLA: A draft perhaps.
SARAH: Yes. What's something you couldn't do this year that you hope to be able to do next year? How about something that I know for a fact I'm going to be able to do next year? Go to Ireland.
KAYLA: It's true.
SARAH: I'm going to Ireland next year, baby. I'm going to try and stop by our tract of land.
KAYLA: I'm so excited. Mine is also similarly travel-related, there were some long-distance friends that I was really hoping to visit this year and it just didn't work out, so that would be nice.
SARAH: She's too popular, all around the world.
KAYLA: It's not… No, it's more just like I didn't… It's not like I was busy seeing other people, it's just like…
SARAH: No, but you have friends all around the world who you could visit.
KAYLA: I suppose.
SARAH: What is one thing that you want out of next year? We turn 29 next year.
KAYLA: I want my body to feel better, but I think that that's going to get worse and worse every year.
SARAH: Yeah, it will. It will. I want to have better teeth, I won't though.
KAYLA: But you want it.
SARAH: I do want it, but I don't think it's possible, I don't think it's physically possible at this point.
KAYLA: I hope that a lot of my wedding gets planned.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: In a non-stressful manner.
SARAH: I hope that I have more clarity on the next steps of my career.
KAYLA: Me too.
SARAH: Hell yeah. What is one thing that made this year better? My gremlin idiot cat, she's evil.
KAYLA: Yeah. My friends, they're pretty cool. I like having a friend.
SARAH: Go girl. I also… I, this year, I have one more to do,14 concerts.
KAYLA: So insane. So insane.
SARAH: And that made it better. And I traveled a lot for concerts and I went…
KAYLA: You did.
SARAH: I didn't really see those places very much because I literally just went…
KAYLA: You were there
SARAH: I saw a little bit of Seattle. But I like going to concerts, I think it's nice, I went to a concert this past week and it was so good. If you could give the you from a year ago advice, what would it be?
KAYLA: Hmm.
SARAH: Mine for you is don't use FedEx.
KAYLA: Oh my God, I didn't have a choice, I didn't have a choice, that's good though. My advice would be that… oh, I just thought of like another bad thing that happened.
SARAH: What?
KAYLA: Well, it's like work-related, so I'm not going to like get into it.
SARAH: You're not going to go in the weeds.
KAYLA: I'm not going to. My advice to myself is especially with work, there are going to be some very stressful times and like a lot of uncertainty, but it will be better for it afterwards. So, it like just, it's okay. Just get through it.
SARAH: Yeah. Mine is just like, you just got to do shit. I think that's also just for future me. Just do, just do shit. Stop it. Stop, stop it. Just do shit.
KAYLA: Stop it. Yeah.
SARAH: Just do shit. Just go get a cat.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Just do it.
KAYLA: I think my advice is also for future me. This is like part of what I… it was like about a specific situation, but the thing I said to my therapist that was like… she was like, “you've done it,” was I was like, this thing is going to happen and it's going to be really stressful for a of couple hours, but like in the end, like I will be glad I did it and it'll make future me's life a lot easier. So, I feel like that's my advice to myself is just like, it's going to suck for a little bit and you can just like disassociate for a of couple hours or whatever, just like feel like shit for a little bit, but it won't be forever and then it'll be better that it happened in the end and you'll just get to move on and it'll be fine.
SARAH: Shia LaBeouf, just do it gif.
KAYLA: Just do it.
SARAH: Fuck Shia LaBeouf though.
KAYLA: Do it scared.
SARAH: What's something you're putting off doing right now? Emptying my phone.
KAYLA: I have a final paper to do.
SARAH: Cleaning my house.
KAYLA: I also need to clean my house. Make a dentist appointment.
SARAH: Asking my boss what my job is. I also need to make a dentist appointment because my dentist ghosted me and I might switch, I need to figure that out.
KAYLA: I have the opposite problem, I ghosted my dentist, one time I didn't go to an appointment like forever ago and now they were like, “if you want to do another appointment with us, you have to message us day of and we'll let you know if we have availability that day.”
SARAH: Oh my God.
KAYLA: Isn’t that insane!? Like, I get it, I shouldn't have no showed, but I was like… it was not a good day and I just did it, you know, whatever, shit happens. But I'm like, that's such a crazy policy, I'm never going to go to the dentist again, I’m never going to go.
SARAH: I need to go to the dentist because my teeth have problems but I have a grudge against the dentist that I went to last because they ghosted me.
KAYLA: No, that’s fair, they ghosted you, they acted wild.
SARAH: It’s so fucking weird.
KAYLA: What else am I putting off? I need to book a cat-sitter for the holidays. I need to Christmas shop. I need to make my own Christmas list.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Yeah. My mom vacuumed my house today.
KAYLA: That’s nice, can she vacuum my house?
SARAH: No, she's far away.
KAYLA: Oh, Julie!
SARAH: But I was like, “wow, thanks for vacuuming the house because I've been needing to vacuum…” And she was like, “your vacuum sucks.”
KAYLA: Oops. But like in a good way or?
SARAH: No
KAYLA: Get it? Ha ha ha ha.
SARAH: And I was like, “yes, mom, that's why I need a tiny, tiny shop vac.” I'm going to put a tiny, tiny shop vac on my Christmas list.
KAYLA: I love that.
SARAH: Anyway, why do you do the pod? Girl, I don't know.
KAYLA: Because it's a chill time to hang out with my friend.
SARAH: Because it's what I do. Yippee.
KAYLA: Yippee.
SARAH: Yippee.
KAYLA: It sounds so bad, it makes it sound like we're being held hostage.
SARAH: We are, by ourselves.
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KAYLA: By ourselves? Anyway.
SARAH: Sum the year up with one song.
KAYLA: I hate this question.
SARAH: I know you do. I actually… this year it wasn't as easy for me. Like, I didn't have like, oh, it's this one. I do think… this is going to sound depressing.
KAYLA: Great.
SARAH: I was going to say one song, but then I was like, “I don’t remember it,” and then in the car on the way home today, ‘Colorado’ by Renee Rapp came on.
KAYLA: Ew
SARAH: It sounds depressing, but I don't think it's depressing, I think it represents this year in terms of like thinking about your life and what you are wanting to be doing with it.
KAYLA: Okay. I see the vision.
SARAH: That's all. It's a banger.
KAYLA: It is a banger. It is a good song. I have a friend that lives, or she is from Colorado, and one of her big beefs is that everyone just moves there, and she's like, “no, you're not from…” like, “shut up, you're not from here.” It's just like, if I had to move there and so that song is very funny because she's like, “get the fuck out of here.”
SARAH: That's literally what the song is about.
KAYLA: Yeah, because that’s what the song is about. I think I'm going to say my song is going to… I think this was my top song of the year.
SARAH: Oh
KAYLA: It is ‘Coming Home Song’ by Sammy Rae & The Friends, who was one of my top artists this year because they slay. It's a song about, like I was just saying, of just freaking just do it.
SARAH: Just do it. Just do it.
KAYLA: The lyrics are like, “take some initiative, wish you'd start walking the walk. How do you talk to your inner child? Cut off your hair if it's too long. Write yourself a coming home song. Learn from the things you've done wrong. Leave a light on.”
SARAH: And did you do all of those things? Did you write yourself a song?
KAYLA: I didn't. I had a haircut recently. I guess.
SARAH: You've got 26 days.
KAYLA: I could write a song in 26 days.
SARAH: You can do it
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Here's the one that we always are like, we should have prepared for this and we didn't and we regret it. What's the most memorable thing the allos did this year?
KAYLA: Ugh, okay. I don't watch The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
SARAH: Mm
KAYLA: But from what I've seen online, it seems like…
SARAH: It seems wild
KAYLA: There are some allos doing some shit over there.
SARAH: Yep, absolutely.
KAYLA: So, I'd say that's a good one.
SARAH: Recency bias, I saw a tweet today about two of the contestants from Love Island, like they became official and they did so by those little things where you put the letters on it and it says something?
KAYLA: Sarah, come on now. No.
SARAH: Like the thing that goes on your wall and there's the little letters that you stick in to spell things.
KAYLA: Yes. Like what you'd have on the theater?
SARAH: Yeah, like a marquee thing, but like tiny.
KAYLA: Thank you, yep.
SARAH: And he was like asking her to officially be his girlfriend and it said, “be my bitch.”
KAYLA: No, come on.
SARAH: So that's recency bias because I saw it literally like two hours ago.
KAYLA: You know what was a big one this year is Jojo Siwa was alloing it up this year.
SARAH: Yeah, she was.
KAYLA: She was having some real allo moments.
SARAH: She was having a real allo summer
KAYLA: Whether you agree with them or not, she was alloing.
SARAH: Allos were alloing.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And then she probably used some Aloe too because she spent some time in the sun.
KAYLA: Mm. Sydney Sweeney is dating… What's his face now? That’s a real axe
SARAH: Ugh, Scooter Fucking Braun.
KAYLA: Yeah, that's an allo move, that relationship I feel.
SARAH: That makes me want to walk on hot coals in the tundra.
KAYLA: Yeah, that makes sense.
SARAH: Wearing…
KAYLA: Wearing?
SARAH: A really heavy camera.
KAYLA: You know what the allos were doing this year? Having AI girlfriends.
SARAH: Oh my God, yes. Yeah, they were
KAYLA: I saw a TikTok yesterday of a stripper and she was talking about like, yeah, this guy came in with his AI girlfriend and she was like, I took him to like have a private dance in one of the rooms and his phone was just like in his shirt pocket and she would just like talk.
SARAH: Like unprompted?
KAYLA: Maybe it was prompted, but she was like, it was the AI that picked for him to come to me.
SARAH: Oh
KAYLA: Like he told the AI like, here's all the girls working at the club tonight, like who should I get a dance from?
SARAH: Oh, wow.
KAYLA: Yep.
SARAH: Okay, well.
KAYLA: So.
SARAH: That's certainly a thing.
KAYLA: Yeah, so.
SARAH: Okay. Who is your most hated person this year? I would like to say, I continue to fucking hate Bibi Netanyahu, but that's like a baseline, you know?
KAYLA: Yeah. I was going to say Trump.
SARAH: I think Trump has really risen back up in the ranks this year just because he has had a little too much power.
KAYLA: He has been doing it.
SARAH: He has been wielding it.
KAYLA: He has been doing it. I don't like Elon Musk.
SARAH: I don't like that motherfucker. I don't like like Sam Altman, like any of the AI guys.
KAYLA: Yeah. Joe Rogan, I don't like him.
SARAH: I continue to not like Putin, obviously.
KAYLA: This is gonna… like, compared to all these people, this sounds crazy, but like I’m not a fan of Sidney Sweeney at this time.
SARAH: Yeah, me neither.
KAYLA: I’m really kind of sick of her shit.
SARAH: Yeah. I also, Joe Rogan, I don't like him, but…
KAYLA: I haven't been hearing much from him lately
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Is he okay?
SARAH: I feel like he has not been completely unredeemable. Like, I feel like he has occasionally…
KAYLA: I just like haven't heard from him lately.
SARAH: When I found out that he was the host of Fear Factor.
KAYLA: I know. Isn't it crazy?
SARAH: Because I used to watch Fear Factor.
KAYLA: They're doing a new Fear Factor, it's like Fear Factor house, they all like live together and like…
SARAH: Oh
KAYLA: I keep seeing commercials for it…
SARAH: Eat spiders?
KAYLA: I think it's just, they're trying to make it like a newer reality competition show.
SARAH: Like a Big Brother situation?
KAYLA: Yeah. Where they get like voted off throughout the weeks or whatever, but in the commercial, they keep showing them they're like laying in this like box and they're getting… like concrete is being poured on top of them.
SARAH: No.
KAYLA: How are they going to get out of there?
SARAH: How many fucking waivers did they have to sign? How many legal documents do they have to say? “If I die, it's not your fault, it's my fault for daring to apply to this.”
KAYLA: A trillion. I don't know.
SARAH: I don't know why we watched Fear Factor.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Because like it was either really gross, like eating tarantulas or something
KAYLA: Or bugs, yeah
SARAH: Or like trying to swim to the surface with a bunch of weights strapped to you.
KAYLA: I've seen Fear Factor live a couple of… like at the Universal or wherever.
SARAH: Oh yeah, yeah.
KAYLA: Have you ever been there?
SARAH: I believe so
KAYLA: I've seen that a couple of times.
SARAH: It's just… like, what are we doing? What are we doing?
KAYLA: I don't know.
SARAH: Last question, what's one thing you'd like to say to our listeners?
KAYLA: Hi.
SARAH: I hope you're well. Thank you for being here still, I don't know why you're here or some of you who are new…
KAYLA: Yeah. I would say I'm very grateful that people are like still here and sticking around even though we have had… like, our content has been like very different over the years and like, I think there was a while where we were probably a much higher quality product.
SARAH: Oh yeah.
KAYLA: And that's just not the case anymore because that's not what we're getting out of it.
SARAH: The quality of the product is poor, but the vibes are impeccable.
KAYLA: Exactly. I think, you know, like we've just prioritized like what we want and what makes us like happy to get out of it and the fact that people are still sticking around for that is very lovely.
SARAH: Yeah. I concur. That's it.
KAYLA: It's over.
SARAH: Kayla, what is our poll for this week?
KAYLA: What?
SARAH: What's our poll for this year?
KAYLA: What good happened to you this year?
SARAH: Yeah. Tell us about the good things that happened to you. We want to hear about all of the good and the best things. If they can be very big, like you got married or you had a child or you got diversed, divorced
KAYLA: Diversed, mm-hmm
SARAH: Or you got a PhD or it can be like, I got a very small tattoo on my butt cheek.
KAYLA: I ate a really good sandwich.
SARAH: I learned how to hula hoop.
KAYLA: Mm. The other day I saw Dean hula hoop.
SARAH: Why?
KAYLA: We were at like a little, like… it was like a farm type, they had like a pumpkin patch, but also a bunch of like fall activities and stuff and there was just like a hula hoop lying there. And he was like really good.
SARAH: Wow.
KAYLA: Why?
SARAH: What does hip do? That's crazy.
KAYLA: They don't lie.
SARAH: Hmm. You're always going places, I should go places.
KAYLA: It's really… it's almost never my idea. I just… people say, “we're going,” and I'm like, “okay, well, I'm not driving. So, I'll just get in and you can all be there, I guess.”
SARAH: I recently played Wii Sports Resort 100-Pin Bowling.
KAYLA: Wii Sports Resort, my beloved.
SARAH: Remarkable.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Okay. Kayla, what is your beef and your juice for this year? Week?
KAYLA: My beef is that my body hurt.
SARAH: Mm, yeah.
KAYLA: But I'm getting a massage tomorrow, so hopefully that will fix it.
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SARAH: Mm-hmm. Fix me.
KAYLA: My juice is that I have consumed some excellent media recently.
SARAH: Yes.
KAYLA: I saw…
SARAH: And it hasn't even been the gay porn.
KAYLA: And it hasn't even been the gay porn. So, think of where I'll be once I see the gay porn.
SARAH: Exactly.
KAYLA: I saw… this was like several weeks ago now, but Now You See Me 3, or Now You Three Me.
SARAH: Now You Three Me.
KAYLA: That was excellent. The first part of the new Stranger Things season, I saw that, great stuff. New Knives Out, I saw that in theaters, amazing.
SARAH: Ooh, I really want to see that.
KAYLA: It made me, I'll tell you what, I went to see it and I went with our friend Perry, who is also someone who was raised Catholic and after the movie, I turned to them and we were both like, “should we go to church?” We were both like, “that made me want to go to church really bad.” Like I'm itching to be in there. It was really good.
SARAH: All right. Did you see that picture of Pope Leo on an airplane holding a baseball bat?
KAYLA: No. No, I didn't.
SARAH: It just came on my feed because they were like, “this is definitely the first pope to ever stand on an airplane holding a baseball bat.”
KAYLA: Yes. I did not see that. I feel like there was something else I saw recently that was really good. If anyone else has seen both the new Knives Out and Now You Three Me, I want to talk because there is a very specific… and I can't tell you because it's like a huge spoiler, especially for Knives Out, but there is like a link that… like, a weird thing that is like common to both movies that I just like, it's so funny. Like it's so stupid, but it's just so funny to me that it's like in both of them and I'm like, “who do I talk to about this?”
SARAH: Okay, well, someday the world will know.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: That was your beef and your juice, right? I don't know. My juice is I went to see a Key concert this week. So Key is a member of SHINee and he did a solo concert and it was so good. He's my SHINee bias, so slay. He's a very silly man. He perceived my mother and me and I have video evidence of it. And I was like, damn so like I go to all these K-pop concerts and like I only get my pick me Y/N moment because of my mom.
KAYLA: The fuck, Julie!?
SARAH: Anyway, but he was like, oh, like who… he asked…he was asking people who had come from out of state and so my mom obviously does not live in LA. But the show was so fucking good and it was the best.
KAYLA: I love that for you.
SARAH: More 34-year-old idols.
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: He was talking about how the babies conceived to/around their debut song are now 18.
KAYLA: Ew.
SARAH: Are adults.
KAYLA: I don't like that. I saw someone say that they were in eighth grade when the first season of Stranger Things came out and they are now an eighth-grade teacher.
SARAH: Oh my God.
KAYLA: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SARAH: Oh, no. Yeah, that's not… yeah, ooh, mm, mm
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Yeah. My beef is I have to edit this whole podcast tonight.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: You can tell us about your beef, your juice…
KAYLA: You can tell us.
SARAH: You can jive and you can have the time of your life.
KAYLA: That's true.
SARAH: On our social media @soundsfakepod or in our Discord.
KAYLA: Get in there.
SARAH: We also have a Patreon, patreon.com/soundsfakepod, if you want to join the 106 people who pay us money for some reason. Our $5 patrons who we are promoting this week are Iris Tolosa, Jolly Lizbert, that's so festive. Katharina, Kelly and Kevin. Jolly Lizbert, it's jolly time.
KAYLA: It’s jolly time.
SARAH: This’s the season to be Jolly Lizbert. Our $10 patrons who are promoting something this week are Johanna who would like to promote being kind to one another, Kayla's dad who likes to promote JandiCreations.com, KELLER bradley who would like to promote, I never found out. Keller, I'm really sorry, I should have messaged you and I never did. Maff who would like to promote the Don't Should Sweatshirt and Martin Chiesl who would like to promote his podcast Everyone’s Special and No One Is. Our other $10 patrons are Purple Hayes, Quartertone, Barefoot Backpacker, SongOStorm, Val, Alastor, Ani, Arcnes, Benjamin Ybarra, Clare Olsen, Danielle Hutchinson, Derick & Carissa, Elle Bitter, Eric, and my aunt Jeannie. Our $15 patrons are Ace who would like to promote the writer Crystal Scherer, Nathaniel White who would like to promote NathanielJWhiteDesigns.com, Kayla’s aunt Nina who would like to promote katemaggartart.com and Schnell who would like to promote accepting that everyone is different and that's awesome. Our $20 patrons are Changeling & Alex, who would like to promote their company Control Alt Access, Dr. Jacki, Dragonfly, my mom, and River who would like to promote... Hey mom! Mom!
KAYLA: Julie!
SARAH: What do you want to promote this week? My mom… these people would all like to promote spending time with family.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Thanks for listening, tune in not next Sunday, but in like four Sundays, in 2026 we will be back, for more of us in your ears. Enjoy your holidays, if you don't celebrate holidays, enjoy these random days. I hope you have a tolerable time if you hate your family.
KAYLA: Jesus.
SARAH: I hope you get to spend time with people you like.
KAYLA: What a terrible sign off. And until then, take good care of your cows.
SARAH: Jolly cows.
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