Shaun Squad Society
The Shaun Squad Society Podcast is a podcast written, produced and hosted by three women who want to keep the Magic of a Midnight Sky alive!
Cindy, Dorese and Dame became friends at a Shaun Cassidy concert and immediately decided to form "The Shaun Squad." Soon after, the Shaun Squad Society Podcast was conceived to discuss and reminisce about all-things Shaun Cassidy, from his first years as a teen idol to his current career as a writer and producer.
This podcast brings together a community of Shaun's devoted fans, the ones who played his albums non-stop, and who tuned into The Hardy Boys Mysteries every Sunday evening. And now, 46 years later, Shaun's story-telling tour has delighted fans again. So, join us for the stories, fun-facts, and fascinating interviews as we take you down memory lane with our Teen Dream, Shaun Cassidy.
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Deep Dive into Shaun Cassidy's album Under Wraps
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What if an album could transport you back to the summer of 1978? Join us as we uncover the hidden gems of Shaun Cassidy's third studio album, "Under Wraps," and revisit the nostalgia that surrounds this iconic release. From its chart performance to the excitement of unwrapping the mysterious blue cover, we explore the personal memories and cultural impact of this pop sensation.
Dive deep into the heart of "Under Wraps" as we analyze unforgettable tracks. Ever wondered about the story behind the song "Taxi Dancer?" We break down its historical context and emotional depth, before moving on to the slower, more introspective "Lie to Me." Hear our candid thoughts on these tracks and their emotional impact, as well as our reflections on "It's Like Heaven" and "She's Right." Join us as we weave personal experiences with our analysis, bringing to life the rich tapestry of Cassidy's music.
Finally, we decode the intricate lyrics and themes of this album, from the escapism depicted in "Right Before Your Skies" to the evolution in Cassidy's musical journey. Discover the contributions of renowned songwriters like Carol Bayer Sager and the influence of drummer Carlos Vega. Stay connected with the Shaun Squad Society through our new Buzzsprout feature, and share your thoughts on social media. Let's celebrate the lasting impact of Shaun Cassidy on pop culture, and remember to always believe in magic!
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Discussing Shaun Cassidy's Under Wraps Album
Speaker 1I think it would be a great song today. It has such a great intro to it. But you know, the best, really best part of it is when he says no one can change that but you. And then he pauses and then it goes into the whole chorus. It's just.
Speaker 3Like this girl knew what was going on and she just had to make him see it.
Speaker 1Yeah, welcome to the Shawn Squad Society podcast with your hosts myself, cindy, doris and Madonna, where we invite you to share in our enthusiasm and reminisce about all things Sean Cassidy, from his teen idol days to his recent adventures. Back on the road again.
Speaker 2Please join us for the stories and memories that connected us to those happy days that helped create the Sean's Quad Society podcast. This album is called Under Wraps and this is the one we're going to talk about. I think the album was released July of 1978, and it was a pop record and Michael Lloyd produced it. It was Sean's third album. It peaked at number 33 on the top 40 of the US Billboard charts and it was the song Our Night that peaked number 80 on the United States Hot 100 or US Hot 100.
Speaker 1So Our Night was the single from the album. I don't remember that. I have it at home. Really, I remember how the record sleeve looked and everything.
Speaker 3Oh, the single.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Okay, yeah, I don't know if I had that single.
Speaker 1Well, you and a whole lot of people, because it only went to number 80-something on the top 100.
Speaker 3I don't even remember being on the radio.
Speaker 1They didn't play it.
Speaker 2Maybe that's why, if they played it more on the radio, it would have been even higher they didn't play it much at all. That's why we're blaming on radio no although all of these songs are so sappy, it's, it's cute and funny and I I just have to leave it at. Cute, I guess?
Speaker 1yes, I think under wraps is my favorite album. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's my favorite album. Yeah, okay, yeah. And that might explain some of the lack of sales. And you know we were getting older by record three, right? So by under wraps I was already a senior in high school.
Speaker 3But isn't this funny Because this is only a year later. Yeah, how time goes by. We get old in one year.
Speaker 2Yeah, did you notice that most of these songs are all romance and to have just one love, which I love? I mean that's pretty cool that he started that young, wanting to sing songs like this I know, and, and so many of them were about just, you know, getting a second chance and then his show. You know, magic of the midnight sky. Well, so many of these songs are about midnight and the lights.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about the album cover. Yeah, oh, okay. What do you think about the album?
Speaker 1cover. I love it.
Speaker 3I've always loved it I did like it when I bought it. I was like this looks pretty cool.
Speaker 1I love the color. I love how it's just like real mysterious. I love the blue. I remember a long time ago reading in Tiger Beater somewhere you see that Asian writing.
Speaker 2Yeah, what is that I read?
Speaker 1a long time ago on the tie, what that meant.
Speaker 2What does it mean?
Speaker 1Well, now, I don't remember.
Speaker 2Well, look, it's at the top, but it's also at the bottom of it too. Yes, and I think they're two different sayings or something. What did Sean say about this cover?
Speaker 3Because he wrote something. Yeah, Sean always has a meaning behind his covers and he did talk about this album cover that it was his idea and they all tell a story he says, so this one is basically about how he was sheltered and how plastic pop culture was viewed so he was in essence making fun of himself. For the record and the whole pop experience, he says yeah, so this was his view on pop culture at the time.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3Which reflected in his album Under Some Plastic.
Speaker 1Yeah, he was just being sheltered. He's in a bubble. Yeah, he's under wraps.
Speaker 2Under wraps. He's wrapped up. He can't get out.
Speaker 3He's wrapped up. He can't get out Plastic pop yeah.
Speaker 1He's been from under the wraps for a real long time, yeah we unwrapped him pretty good, didn't we?
Speaker 3That's the first thing we did. We got the album, we unwrapped it.
Speaker 1I remember the day I got the album, I went to the record store. I couldn't wait. You know, you always knew when the next album was coming out. Tiger Beat made sure we knew that. And wasn't there a commercial about it? And wasn't there a commercial about it? I remember the Born Late commercial, the Under Wraps commercial. I just don't remember that much. I don't either, but ran out, as we all did, ran to the record store let's Boogie, my favorite store, and got Under Wraps. And did you, girls, do this? Did you run home with the record it up right away? First of all, look inside to see if there's any kind of surprise in there, like a poster or poster, something there was. Yeah, what was it?
Speaker 2well, I looked inside. I just saw all the words to the songs I didn't see.
Speaker 3Oh yeah I thought there was a poster, the blue one maybe, maybe not, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1The only thing blue I got was the words I remember the album sleeve had the lyrics and I was very excited about that.
Speaker 2Yes, that's what I'm talking about. In the blue Looks like the magic of a midnight sky with the little and then the words that are popping out with the names of the songs. Looks like the stars.
Speaker 1Yes, you get it Actually they do.
Speaker 3Actually they do it does.
Speaker 1And I was so thrilled. And the other thing I do after I look for the surprise. I usually will play the record only like the intro and then the middle, skip the needle up a little for for each song, just to get a taste of what each song sounds like yeah, because I couldn't wait, and it was so great to hear the new songs and you always heard one and you were like, oh, that would be my reaction.
Speaker 3But we're going to talk about these songs, so we'll go through them and see what we like, what we didn't like well, what? Was what was the deal with it? What you thought it was maybe the deal with it. You know your interpretation of it well, yeah, as a teenager, all we had were like magazines and records, that's what I live to.
Speaker 1That's. That was my life.
Speaker 2I went to school I read my magazines and I listened to my records.
Speaker 1Exactly that was the Well I lived. That was my life. That's my first song. I went to school, I read my magazines and I listened to my records.
Speaker 3Exactly that was the media back then, and if he was, on TV so you didn't make it through.
Speaker 2Yeah, the first song, even TV, because you wanted to move that needle.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Dame, In the beginning I would play the album, the side A and B, just moving the needle. Then I would sit down and listen to each song all the way through.
Speaker 3Oh, you did. So you did like audio test, I'm just not.
Speaker 1I do that today with books. I can't wait. So I skim to the middle, read a paragraph or two, a chapter, and then I skim to the end and read and I just can't wait. I don't know what it is about me.
Speaker 2I have to know the ending. You got to get to the good stuff.
Speaker 1Yes, so I did that with the raps in all of his albums.
Speaker 3Yeah. So the first song, the first song came on pretty, pretty powerful. I thought Hard Love, it was upbeat, it was upbeat.
Speaker 1It is upbeat.
Speaker 4When you started it was like okay, yeah, there's something that I can't control. Never know where, where this sudden type of motion get a crazy notion, stop me hurting again.
Speaker 1And I need a heart. It had more of an adult beat rock and roll sound. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't bubblegum.
Speaker 3He was advancing in his sound. Yes, yeah, I'm like oh okay. I'll go along with this one.
Speaker 1Yeah, I loved Heart Love and you know the lyrics are pretty racy.
Speaker 3Yeah, what do you think about it?
Speaker 1For a teenage girl who was maybe 12 when they first started listening and now he's like he's singing about. He met her on a Monday and then he moved up to.
Speaker 2I need a hard love to get me inside, something deep down turning me around, burning in my heart boy, yeah, he's burning now I think he's saying that he just doesn't want a one night stand, and that sounds like Sean, so I think he was okay with this song. You know, it's just. It sounds like he's almost scared, though, and he needs someone, just that he can hide with Right.
Speaker 3He wants a true love, not a one-night stand.
Speaker 2He wants her in the bubble.
Speaker 3Yeah, wrapped up in the plastic with him. Yeah, it was pretty good.
Speaker 1I was very happy. I'm like okay, and maybe that just showed a little bit of my maturity. I was like okay, and maybe that just showed a little bit of my maturity.
Speaker 3You know, I was like this is such a great song, maybe like he was growing up with us. He was going along with us as we aged and advanced. He did too.
Speaker 1What if he wrote some of these songs years ago and he was just waiting to get them out? Like, I wrote this song when I was 16 and I'm ready to release it.
Speaker 3now he's burning in his heart at 16.
Speaker 2Well, it sounded like in the song he sounds like he's just saying he's so lonely at night and that he just needs somebody to take away his loneliness, which is ironic because we know he wasn't lonely. Maybe, maybe, who knows, but well, I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
Speaker 3He was still a teenager back then.
Speaker 1I'm sure we were all saying pick me, I'll be it, don't worry, I'm here you need a hard love. I got my backpack where can I meet you?
Speaker 3He wrote the song in 1978, because it says it's from Sean Songs.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 3It must have been his publishing name Okay, yeah, he didn't need a hard love, it must have been his publishing name.
Speaker 2Okay yeah, he didn't need a hard love, it was easy to find a love for him.
Speaker 3Easy to find, yep, Okay. Now second one Taxi Dancer. Taxi Dancer Looking on another show. But Donald, didn't? You know? That's your favorite, Sandy, that's my favorite one. Yeah, that's my favorite. The first thing I notice in this song. The first thing I notice is that it's named Taxi Dancer, but that's not pronounced that way throughout the song.
Speaker 1Or maybe it is, but you know how songs you can't always hear the enunciation.
Speaker 3Well, the wording here says Taxi Dance. All right, In the words of the song it does not say taxi dancer. So maybe it just didn't go right in the song, but he wanted to name it taxi dancer because that's what they were. I know, Dores, you had a story about taxi dancers.
Speaker 1Well, this is one of those things. You know how? I remember Crazy Crab from a million years ago, Yep, and I read in Tiger Beat. They would tell you a lot and they said what is a taxi dancer? And a taxi dancer was like back in the real old days when you had ballroom dancing and it kind of went past that a little bit into the 50s and 60s. But they will have dance cards, Ladies will have dance cards and you pay however much to be on their dance card and they called them taxi dancers and they would go around and dance with the gentleman. You don't hear it so much anymore, but you used to hear you got room on your dance card for me, or you know things like that.
Analyzing Shaun Cassidy's Songs
Speaker 3But this is just dancing, right? Yeah, we're not talking about a dessert.
Speaker 2Well, it says dance all night and hold me tight Almost. Sounds like a date that his parents had True their first date.
Speaker 1That's true. So yeah, that's what a taxi dancer was, but the song is so cool because I love the way he said and I'm going from memory, I haven't looked at the lyrics in years but taxi dance putting on another show.
Speaker 3But, darling, didn't you know we were in love with you, we were in love with you, and we all cried the same tears too.
Speaker 1See, she was just out there dancing with these guys.
Speaker 3Playing with the schoolboy's hearts.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, and Sheila was the name in there which could be anybody.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it was cute he used the name.
Speaker 1Maybe he knew somebody named Sheila back then, maybe, well, it just went with it but knew somebody named Sheila back then Maybe. Well, it just went with it. But yeah, I just really that was a good song. I was like I didn't really get it. You know we were young, but I'm like I really liked the melody of it and the way he would say putting on another show. I really like that.
Speaker 2Cindy, what was your favorite part of it? Part of it I like all of it.
Speaker 3I really like that. Cindy, what was your favorite part of it? Part of it I like all of it. I mean. I was impressed even how he wrote this, Like he didn't know back then that he was going to be a writer yet yes, but he was so good at writing songs, so it kind of just ties in with this writing.
Speaker 1Yeah, he wrote it For a 19, 20-year-old man to be writing about a taxi dancer.
Speaker 3that's before his time and he so. He's smart, he knows history, he studies history.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3He knows what came before him and he's obviously writing about it.
Speaker 2He was already brilliant at a young age, right.
Speaker 3Well, we got Lie to Me. That's the next one Lie to me. That's the next one Lie to me. I heard it from a friend.
Speaker 4And I knew that it couldn't be true. Now I'm hearing it again. This time, girl. I'm hearing it from you. You told me the truth and I bought it. You lied to me and I bought it. So lie to me, girl, cause I believe in everything you say. Lie to me, I didn't really like that one too much.
Speaker 1That was a slow. Do you know how you get the one you?
Speaker 3go. Yeah, I know it's like when's it gonna be over? I know that was so slow.
Speaker 4Do you know how you get to when you go? Ugh yeah.
Speaker 3I know it's like when's it going to be over? I know that was one of them.
Speaker 2He's singing about a girl that he wants to lie to him because he doesn't want to know that she really doesn't want to be with him. He doesn't want to be hurt.
Speaker 3Yeah. But it says I know you're trying not to hurt me, promise that you won't desert me and lie to me girl. So he doesn't want her to go away.
Speaker 2Right, well, the person that wrote it, his name was Bill Labonte, and I listened and did Sean help with it. I mean, he helped it to get out there better. We'll put it that way.
Speaker 3Well, yeah, Bill Labonte and Jay Center were the writers and they sang it in 1975.
Speaker 2Did they? I think so.
Speaker 1If this could be a cover, who knows? I didn't really pay much attention, I don't know Because it wasn't my favorite on the album. No, you know how you skip the needle up. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2Let's give it a two out of five. I think Sean did help with the song because, if what I read was correct, in 1975, the writers when they did it, it didn't come out as sounding as well. I think I even listened to it from the other singers, the ones that wrote it. But Sean did a better job with it, but it still didn't go up the way it should have.
Speaker 3Maybe if it was a better arrangement or something it would have been better. I just didn't like how it sounded. It didn't I don't know. It wasn't pop enough for me to like Right yeah. Well, the next one is One More Night of your Love. I know that I've been nervous, as many nights we've shared and I know I've often treated you like you just weren't there.
Speaker 4All I can say is please don't turn away. Hold me in your arms until the light of day. Hey, hey, give me one more night of your love. Let me show you how I know love can be.
Speaker 3Oh, okay, okay, what do you think about that one? It's good. I was iffy on that one too.
Speaker 1I liked it. I mean, it wasn't. I didn't put the needle forward, I listened to it, did you? I would sing along with it.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was. I think I was in deep thought about that one, trying to really figure out what he was saying. Give me a lyric. Well, I know that I've been nervous these many nights we've shared and I know I've often treated you like you just weren't there. But all I can say is, please don't turn away. Hold me in your arms until the light of day. Give me one more night of your love.
Heavenly Conversations
Speaker 2That's another song that's similar. It just sounds like the other songs as far as what it's saying. He just was ignoring her.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3He was ignoring her. Is that what it her? Yes, I know, I've often treated you like you, just weren't there.
Speaker 1So, in today's terms, he was ghosting the chick, poor girl.
Speaker 4Yes, Ghosting her yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3That's what it's all about. So, but at the end it says the ghosts are getting even now, see.
Speaker 1So he put the ghost in there.
Speaker 2He knew the term long before you knew, long before you knew the saying, what that meant. And it meant that even back then, I guess, at least to Sean, yeah but now he's got to put himself back together.
Speaker 3somehow, baby, somehow, baby, somehow.
Speaker 1I can't even say, maybe somehow.
Speaker 3He said baby somehow.
Speaker 1And you know what, in life too. I'm sorry men out there listening, but you do us wrong. You ghost us, you treat us bad, we move on, and guess who's coming back now asking for one more night. I'm sorry, ain't happening. And now he's trying to put it back together.
Speaker 3That's right. So give me one more chance, baby. Somehow Maybe that was a short lyric song too.
Speaker 1I had a whole lot to say. When you go to somebody and she ditches you and now you want her back.
Speaker 3Yeah, so he got to the point and then he was done.
Speaker 1Yeah, All right the next one, the point, and then he was done, yeah.
Speaker 3All right, the next one.
Speaker 1Dame, it's like heaven.
Speaker 4I love it when you talk to me. I love it when you talk to me, but you're afraid to walk with me Through the storm. It's like heaven. Through the storm, it's like heaven. When will it ever end?
Speaker 1When will it ever end? You go, Dave.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, this is what I was excited about. I didn't want to wait. No, I'm just kidding. So this one was written by the founding Beach Boys, brian Wilson, and I thought that was really cool, but I didn't even know that until I started. You know, studying a little bit and just as a reminder, but when I think of this song I think of heaven, because I didn't get to see him as you like. When you guys said when he was, you know, younger, you were younger and I remember hearing this song at that first concert when I was there with you girls in Nashville.
Speaker 2Yes, he sang it there I was in heaven. Yes, I melted, but anyway, when I was sitting there and I heard him sing that the first time, I just felt. I felt the words like heaven in your eyes and I was just like oh, yes.
Speaker 3And then you know what this song, you know what got me that first line you know how you had me at hello talk to me. I love it when you talk to me.
Speaker 1He had me at hello and talk to me oh. I was hooked at that, loved this song.
Speaker 3I was hooked.
Speaker 2yes, that one. I loved this song. I was hooked. Yes, it's my favorite.
Speaker 1Just recently on our social media, I used this song in a bunch of posts. I used it to promote us for our episode that was just before this one. You can find it on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube and I love this song so much. I just love the way. I love it when you talk to me yes, Because a lot of people don't listen. So Brian Wilson was actually saying you can talk to me. I love that, I listen.
Speaker 3Yeah, so finally he has a person that he loves and everything's going good and it's just like heaven being with her, and he's so happy now. So this relationship is not a scorned. You know, you left me.
Speaker 2I left you, I did you wrong.
Speaker 3This one is they're together they're happy and just listening to her talk. He's just in heaven.
Speaker 1And when Sean sings it today, or when he was touring he sang it, he ended it so well. He said it will never, ever end, Because he says when will it ever end? When? Will it ever end and Sean said it will never, ever end.
Speaker 2And in the song he says as he sings it, it's still so beautiful and it says for so long we had waited for this feeling of being with him, and like in the show too, so it kind of went along with that, you know, and I was just like all these years I've waited. And here I am and he's singing my favorite song and I just almost wanted to cry, which is weird, but so it almost sounds like OK, it almost sounds like it's a phone conversation.
Speaker 3Okay, because listen, because in the beginning I love it when you talk to me. So for so long I've held onto this feeling and if all my dreams come true tonight, I'll be with you tonight and to kiss you tonight. So he's obviously talking to her on the phone, loves the conversations, but is waiting for that time where they get together and they get to kiss each other and maybe he hasn't met her yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1They've been on the phone. This is long before social media. And what is that? Those dating apps where you talk for a minute or two and that's probably it. They were friends, they talked, and for so long I held on to this feeling. And now, with all my dreams come true, I'll be with you tonight.
Reflecting on Shaun Cassidy's Songs
Speaker 3But in the first paragraph of the song it says but you're afraid to walk with me through the storm. So maybe she didn't want to get into a relationship.
Speaker 2Yeah, a hard life.
Speaker 3Maybe she didn't want a relationship, but she liked talking to him and that was like like he was happy with that.
Speaker 1She was probably very comfortable with. He wanted to move it up a little bit.
Speaker 3Let's stop getting on this phone and get over here so I can kiss you.
Speaker 1It's such a great song, though it resonates so well today.
Speaker 3It's such a great song. And did you know? Brian Wilson's daughter was also a Sean Cassidy fan, carney, carney, yeah. So Carney was excited when, I think, sean went over to their house one time there was a story about that. She was excited to meet him. So it's nice that they have that connection. That's awesome, yep, all right. Next song, side 2.
Speaker 3Oh, we're flipping the album over Turn it over and the first song is Our Night. I liked it. It was upbeat and it started right away and I got along with it. Cindy got along with it, I got along with it?
Speaker 1How did you feel about it, dame Our Night.
Speaker 2Well, he said in the song to his girl no matter what she wanted, he wanted it too. And I kind of thought that was funny, Because once you're together a long time, it's not always like that. But what man that's been married for a long time is going to say well, whatever you like, I like. And so, like when I'm looking at the words or listening to it, I go well, he may be a romantic, but this was something any girl wants to hear. But maybe not after so many years they've been together. I can't see a man still saying that. But who knows, Sean may be that man.
Speaker 1You know what I think? That's what I thought was funny. I think it's going to be our night. This is the first time this is going to be our night.
Speaker 3I think it's that one. Hold on, let me see if I can get this one on. Is that the one that says that I don't know.
Speaker 2There was one that says until we get it right.
Speaker 3Or a plane our night. I can't, oh, you can't hear that song.
Speaker 2No, it's okay. I was listening to it yesterday and in the song he just said to the girl no matter what she wanted, he to it yesterday. And in the song he just said to the girl no matter what she wanted, he wanted it too.
Speaker 3Yes, exactly right, I mean, I liked it, I didn't have any complaints about it. I don't hate it. I don't hate it, it's a good song. Okay, yeah, I think so too, dirties. I don't hate it, it's a good song.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, I think so too. So the next song was she's Right.
Speaker 1Okay, let's get the feeling going. First riff Right here, right now I'm hooked Because it's got this jazz R&B soulful intro. Oh my God, is this your favorite? I cannot tell you how much I love she's.
Speaker 1Right, okay, that must be your favorite, you've been living a lie so you can't hear it, but it's something about the way, the arrangement of this song, it's the lyrics of this song. There's this girl that's been telling him you don't know what you're talking about and you got to get this stuff right and until you do, you're going to be a mess Right, this girl that he met.
Speaker 3It's not a girlfriend or anything, it was just a lady who was kind of telling him hey, this is how I guess life is, yeah.
Speaker 4The advice.
Speaker 3The advice that she gave him. The advice, it was the advice.
Speaker 1She had no idea what she was giving him. It's a sultry song. I love the horns. I think it would be a great song today. It has such a great intro to it. But you know, the best, really best part of it is when he says no one can change that but you. And then he pauses and then it goes into the whole chorus.
Speaker 3It's just Like this girl knew what was going on, and she just had to make him see it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. In the end no one can change it. But you and he wrote a song about it, yeah, about her. How special it was. Oh my God, I love she's Right. Anybody who knows me has heard me screaming every time he would play she's Right.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1But I love the Sean Cassidy live album version the best.
Speaker 3Yeah, that was good. That was good. I like that one Something, some other dimension it brings to it when it's live.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And I think that's when you saw him at Navy Pier in Chicago right, I saw him at Navy.
Speaker 1Pier in Chicago. When she's Right came on, I thought I was going to lose it, Because you know, you don't know what someone's going to do. Yes, and I didn't expect him to do. She's Right. And you hear that very beginning. I'm like oh God, just take me out now.
Speaker 3I think I remember, because I saw him too at Navy Pier. Yeah, that was Doreen's in the scream crowd. Yeah but the song's got a good beat to it and it's upbeat.
Speaker 1You know, it's an upbeat song. I just like it because it's not like any of his other songs with the way that the guitar, the horns, they all go together, it does sound good together.
Speaker 3Yeah, that was a good arrangement, all right, next one.
Speaker 1Midnight Sun.
Speaker 3A little bit slower. Yeah, it was written by Peter McCann. Peter.
Speaker 2McCann yeah.
Speaker 3And it says that, yeah, yeah. Once I had a lady love with eyes so black and cold. We spun our life in times into gold. She was the only one.
Speaker 4She was my midnight sun, she could come and take the night away.
Speaker 2But that's cute, that's sweet. He's he again. He's saying you're the only one.
Speaker 3Yeah, which I mean it's positive, and yeah, I'm with you, cindy.
Speaker 1I wasn't the biggest fan of Midnight Sun, so kind of listen to it a lot.
Speaker 3He's trying to talk about this girl he was with before but she was really into material things. You know, I saw Black and Cold. We spun our life into gold, but she moved on to harder things money, love and diamond rings. So she was a materialistic girl, yeah, and she left him far behind and she left him in the dust.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3She went on and found her sugar daddy, but he said she was the only one. Well, she was his midnight son, so apparently she had a good impression on him yeah, good impression. Yeah, not really. He grew up, oh. But now he finds himself in love again with nobody else. But you see what life can do with a smile. So sometimes if I think of her, don't you blame it all on me.
Speaker 3She's in my memory for just a little while oh, it's like an x x, so he did move on to somebody else, but he she's always in his mind, huh, because that I don't know what to think of that.
Speaker 1Well it's true, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, it happens even.
Speaker 3Okay, there's someone, okay, I will never forget right during your memory, but it doesn't mean you were meant to be with them exactly, but they just came into your life and then they were gone and they had a reason right.
Speaker 2But every chapter in life, too, makes us who we are. Right, it builds your. Even the bad chapters, even the bad.
Speaker 3X's Right. The chapters build your life like these songs do, and we all have a midnight song.
Speaker 1I think I know I do. I'll never forget him.
Speaker 3He was there for a reason and he's gone and it was on to something else. So last song Right Before your Skies. Right Before your Skies.
Speaker 4Places, please. The lights go down A brand new town and we all know it's Falling. Where, hiding on the stairs Holding on to all we know, surrounded by the protocol? I hear the place was packed. Last night, the last night's good play Basketball.
Speaker 3I'm glad it was at the end because I stopped playing the record at that point.
Speaker 1I really like the end, the way the song ended.
Speaker 3I love the way it ended, but I think it's a good song to be at the end, because it kind of fades it out.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2He wrote it. Well, yeah, he wrote it. And in the song the word protocol in here. Well, that of course we know, because that's the way things are supposed to be, yeah it says places, please the lights go down a brand new town and we all look no worse for wear, hiding on the stairs holding on to all we know.
Speaker 1You know what he's singing about. You know what he's singing about places. Please, the lights go down a show a brand new town. It's a show. Yeah, you're okay. They call places. The lights go down. You're holding on to that stair. People are looking at you. I really like this song. Yeah, it was about just being.
Speaker 3It's another show well, because he says yeah, uh, suddenly we're so far away from yesterday and tomorrow we'll be far from here, we just disappear. So when you watch a show, if you take, you get taken away for a while yeah, an escape An escape, it's an escape, right. So it says living in disguise. Remember how it used to be right before your skies. I don't understand that part. Right before your skies.
Speaker 1I remember listening to the song. I'm like he's singing the experience either from the stage or from the audience, but it's the experience of a show.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm, how you feel when you go see a show. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1All right. Well, I used to love that song a lot and, like you said, it's a good bookend. It really wraps up the album.
Speaker 3It is, and if I'm done listening to the rest of them, I'll just turn it off by that point.
Speaker 1It's short, it's very short.
Speaker 3It's not a long song at all. I don't like how it ended. It had a weird piano yeah Fade out thing. I don't know, maybe he was. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1It was a weird sounding ending.
Speaker 3It did have a very weird ending, and it's really the first time that one of his records hasn't brought an immediate shower of attention to it. Oh, hasn't brought an immediate shower of attention to it. But I'm sad about that because I really liked it and I thought it was going to be going full speed ahead.
Speaker 1Well, this album everybody. I'll say it again everybody grew up by the time Under Wraps came out. Yeah, but that's only a year later. Yeah, but it's no. You Think about when you're 10 to 12. Man, do you grow, that's true. You just age, not age you mature, you get different, things change. So he's writing all these slower, more romantic, more adult songs with no teeny bop or bubblegum sound to them at all.
Speaker 2Oh, that's a good point. Drees and most of these songs are about second chances. And what 12-year-old is going to need a second chance?
Speaker 1Yeah, His first two. He didn't need competition. They were just, you know, going out there making money. And then this one is like well, people weren't just flocking to it. You got to compete and they did, and the sales weren't there.
Speaker 3No, I know, and I also heard some sad news too His drummer, Carlos Vega, on the record he died.
Speaker 1Carlos Vega was a very popular drummer.
Speaker 3Oh, really Back in his day.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, he passed away Sad.
Speaker 2I wish that they would have used Eric again for one of these songs, or if he had one of those songs, that'd be good. That would really be you on this album. Yes.
Speaker 3Yeah, and you know, I noticed too. Jackie Ward, Ron Hicklin, I think they're in the Partridge Family Records.
Speaker 1Well, you know they use a lot of studio people, so if they needed them, those are familiar names. Well, we know that Sean definitely grew up, but from the debut album, Sean Cassidy to Under Wraps, those songs are a lot different.
Speaker 3And I'm glad back then that they let him have his creative like his ideas. Yes, like this was his idea for the album cover. Sometimes the artists don't have, you know, any input.
Speaker 2Yeah, Right, no, he's very creative. Sean is, if you think about it, as a writer, as a producer.
Speaker 3Well, I'm just glad. Yeah, every artist wants to put their input, but the people making the record will they let him or not, is the question.
Speaker 1Yeah, sometimes you don't get a lot Right For him being that young as he was.
Speaker 2Yes, and they're like hey, sean, we'll use your idea. That's great, very good point. Cindy, you're right, but he's so mature for his age.
Speaker 1I wanted to just throw out there we're talking about the lyricists and one of the songs Carol Bayer Sager wrote or co-wrote on this album, and she was a big songwriter back then.
Speaker 3She was yeah.
Speaker 1Didn't she do songs?
Speaker 3with Burt Bacharach. Yeah, yeah, yes, she do songs with Burt Bacharach, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, yes, and they wrote a lot of Dionne Warwick songs yes, that's how you know that sound. And for him to get a Carol Bear Sager song was pretty huge. Which one did she co-write Our Night?
Speaker 3Ah, see Our Night, the one that I really like Back in 76.
Speaker 1Yeah, our night, the one that I really like Back in 76. Yeah, and I think the only reason Underwraps edges out Born Late for me is because, well, she's right, it's on Underwraps, right.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different style songs on this one, so Born Late. Yeah, I have my favorites there, but I also have my favorites on this one Remember it's always like heaven.
Speaker 2It is Mm favorites there, but I also have my favorites on this one. Remember, it's always like heaven, it is he is a great songwriter.
Speaker 1He could come out and put some more songs on, or I would love to hear other people sing his songs. If he doesn't want to sing them, write them and let other people well.
Speaker 3Lisa Hartman sang one of his songs. Yes, she did, she did walk away.
Speaker 2Cindy and I discussed this about our night. We'll do it until we get it right. That's funny and I just thought that was hilarious, just that. That was in the song even.
Speaker 3And even for a teenager right.
Speaker 2Like do it all night till we get it all right.
Speaker 3I don't think we were there yet.
Speaker 2And then she said she wasn't. He said she wasn't going to do that to him. But can you imagine you girls at your age and then my age trying to sing that we didn't know what we're singing?
Speaker 1I didn't have a clue what I was singing, and that's true to a lot of top 40 songs back in the 70s.
Speaker 3I think we like to tune more than the words, like we didn't really concentrate on the words.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2Yeah, this sounds like something my mother would do. There were a couple times she made me put soap in my mouth because I said a word that I shouldn't be saying and I didn't think it was a bad word. So it's the same idea. If I would have gone around the house and said this, I probably would have had Irish spring soap in my mouth.
Speaker 1Well, dame, I'm going to tell you, in our innocence, I ran around the house singing all kinds of songs that I had no idea.
Speaker 3I've been around the house singing all kinds of songs that I had no idea.
Speaker 4Yeah, tonight's the night.
Speaker 1Rod Stewart, come on now you start singing that song today. How about? Do you Think I'm Sexy, do you Think?
Speaker 3I'm.
Speaker 1Sexy.
Speaker 3How's that? Even on the radio?
Speaker 1Just any and almost every song oh yeah. Because the 70s you got free man. It's great that we did get to relive these lyrics as adults. Now we can sing them and know them and understand them and have a whole new appreciation.
Speaker 3And it also says that Sean on this album is vocals, guitar and keyboards. So he was.
Speaker 2I saw that.
Speaker 1And a lot of the music too.
Speaker 2There's so many that could be recognized it was great.
Speaker 1I have a whole new appreciation for underwraps. Next episode, when we dive into another album, we'll learn some new things about that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I always love the backstories Me too how it came to be and what was the idea behind it. So that's great to learn in the current day that we are in, because we didn't really pay attention to that back in the day. So I'm glad we were able to talk about this album and what we thought, because I don't know, back then we really didn't decipher things like this, but it was good to kind of talk about what was preferred.
Speaker 1And what wasn't? We just called it Good or Icky, that was our review.
Speaker 3If you didn't like it, you didn't buy it right?
Speaker 2No, and we would love to hear from the fans if they want to write us and tell us what they thought of some of these songs.
Speaker 3Exactly, yeah. Did you like it? Did you not like it? What's your review? Or?
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Speaker 3Right before your skies. Skies keep on crushing.
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