Do you ever feel bombarded and overwhelmed by the constant influx of information and notifications in our fast-paced, digital world? Is it challenging to keep your focus, manage your creative pursuits, and run your entrepreneurial ventures? Well, this episode features Sarah DeGrave, who expertly navigates us through the mazes of trauma, ADHD, and creativity. We delve deep into understanding ADHD, its prevalence in today's society, and how trauma can stimulate ADHD-like characteristics.
Together, we explore effective strategies to manage this overload, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, mental training, and setting boundaries. Sarah shares her insights on cultivating self-awareness, fostering discipline, and establishing support systems for creatives and entrepreneurs living with ADHD. We also discuss the benefits of medication, not as a 'fix' for ADHD, but as a supportive tool. This episode is a compelling exploration into ADHD, its impact on our daily lives, and how it shapes our creative endeavors. Tune in to discover how to strike a delicate balance between managing ADHD and embracing it as a unique aspect of your identity and creativity.
SLAP the Power is written and produced by Rick Barrio Dill (@rickbarriodill) and Maiya Sykes (@maiyasykes). Associate Producer Bri Coorey (@bri_beats), with assistance from Larissa Donahue. Audio and Video engineering and studio facilities provided by SLAP Studios LA (@SLAPStudiosLA) with distribution through our collective home for social progress in art and media, SLAP the Network (@SLAPtheNetwork).
If you have ideas for a show you want to hear or see, or you would like to be a guest artist on our show, please email us at info@slapthepower.com
Do you ever feel bombarded and overwhelmed by the constant influx of information and notifications in our fast-paced, digital world? Is it challenging to keep your focus, manage your creative pursuits, and run your entrepreneurial ventures? Well, this episode features Sarah DeGrave, who expertly navigates us through the mazes of trauma, ADHD, and creativity. We delve deep into understanding ADHD, its prevalence in today's society, and how trauma can stimulate ADHD-like characteristics.
Together, we explore effective strategies to manage this overload, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, mental training, and setting boundaries. Sarah shares her insights on cultivating self-awareness, fostering discipline, and establishing support systems for creatives and entrepreneurs living with ADHD. We also discuss the benefits of medication, not as a 'fix' for ADHD, but as a supportive tool. This episode is a compelling exploration into ADHD, its impact on our daily lives, and how it shapes our creative endeavors. Tune in to discover how to strike a delicate balance between managing ADHD and embracing it as a unique aspect of your identity and creativity.
SLAP the Power is written and produced by Rick Barrio Dill (@rickbarriodill) and Maiya Sykes (@maiyasykes). Associate Producer Bri Coorey (@bri_beats), with assistance from Larissa Donahue. Audio and Video engineering and studio facilities provided by SLAP Studios LA (@SLAPStudiosLA) with distribution through our collective home for social progress in art and media, SLAP the Network (@SLAPtheNetwork).
If you have ideas for a show you want to hear or see, or you would like to be a guest artist on our show, please email us at info@slapthepower.com
Can we talk about how trauma can specifically spark ADHD?
Speaker 2:I don't know that. I would say that it sparks ADHD, okay, but there I think a lot of people now that ADHD is becoming more commonly talked about and like really common on social media for people to be sharing their stories and then people see those videos and they're like, oh, I resonate with that. Does that mean I have ADHD? And just recognizing that it's complicated, like there's a lot of things going on in our lives that could be causing us to exhibit the same traits or behaviors, have the same types of challenges that someone with diagnosable ADHD? So diagnosable ADHD meaning you hit all of the diagnostic markers.
Speaker 3:All right, all right, all right. Welcome to the show, Hi y'all, hey, hey, hey. The world may not need another podcast baby.
Speaker 1:But it definitely needs a slap, a slap in its huge face.
Speaker 3:That's right. Welcome to slap the power. How you doing, Maya.
Speaker 1:I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 3:I'm fantastic. I like your scarf choice. Thank you, thank you, I it's gotten cool and I'm I'm excited about it's got a cool-ish Right, right, right. But it cool enough to where I was like. I was like, can I wear a scarf today?
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 3:has it? Has it officially crossed the line? And in the morning I would say that it's a firm yes, it's a strong yes. Middle afternoon, definitely, I felt. I felt I walked into Whole Foods and I was like, I felt a little like, am I a little bit too early for this look?
Speaker 1:Okay, let's back up, my mans in a scarf said. I walked into Whole Foods and felt like this was too much.
Speaker 3:It was a little too early. I'm like. I'm like, did I need a couple more weeks? Right, I need a couple more weeks.
Speaker 1:Hi, my name is Privilege. How are you?
Speaker 3:I didn't no, I'm saying, oh, are we at the point now where Whole Foods is Privilege? Is that it? I absolutely. Okay, okay. So if, for the record, the reason I was in there was I was returning an Amazon purchase, I wasn't actually buying any of their overpriced food, I was returning an Amazon thing. So, no, it's all good.
Speaker 1:But I had to just tease you.
Speaker 3:It was fun I love it, I love it, I. But I was, I was trying to figure out. It was like am I a couple of weeks too early before the scarf?
Speaker 1:No, there's okay, LA has trader weather at this time. Right, so you almost have to dress in layers, like you need a T-shirt and then a tank top and then a cardigan and then a shacket and then a scarf.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's layered, that's all.
Speaker 1:And then a jacket, slash coat.
Speaker 3:I do love the scarf though, cause you can kind of be you're going to still have the thin shirt and still I like the.
Speaker 1:Lanny Kravitz big ass scarf.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, it's a blanket I want I mean also Lanny Kravitz. Lanny Kravitz, let's be real. On the show today I'm. This is something that's really near and dear to my heart. We talk about it a lot. Most of the things we do on the show are kind of near and dear to our heart, but this one is, I feel, like the internet has broken our brains, right, we talk about this and to me, notifications on a cell phone.
Speaker 3:There's actual data that this has reprogrammed our brains as human beings. Neurologically. It's reprogrammed our brains, and so on the show today we actually have her name Sarah DeGrave. We're going to be interviewing her in a little bit and her main focus is on ADHD and creatives and entrepreneurs basically trying to trying to live a world where it's not a bad thing. Adhd isn't bad. As a matter of fact, it's amplified and you figure a way to compartmentalize that and make that work for a lot of people that have ADHD, and I can probably say inside our house there's we definitely pop back and forth. You've met my girl. We pop back and forth from things very quickly, and so I'm interested to see what Sarah's got to say.
Speaker 1:Well, I also think that in this day and age, how could I feel like everybody has ADHD to some effect, because we're just processing so much more information than we ever have been, and I don't think I have ADHD, but I definitely have to put limits on my phone. Yeah and limit certain noises or whatever, because I've just noticed that I am so easily distracted. I mean, all it takes for me to be just like my puppy is squirrel and I'm just out like squirrel.
Speaker 3:Squirrel. No, that's what I'm saying, and it's hard because I've had to really work and I know, like a lot of people, especially post pandemic, it's like, you know, meditation it's not a joke, because you're basically training your brain to, you know, kind of stay focused rather than getting pulled off all the time. Pulled off, point all the time, like looking at our watches or like our notifications on our phones that just pop up all the time.
Speaker 1:I mean this thing alerts me and it's helpful, you know, because you can kind of subtly look at things, but at the same time I'm like I don't need to.
Speaker 3:so know it's another.
Speaker 1:It's another. It's a huge squirrel Because I don't need to know that such and such liked my photo.
Speaker 3:Like who is such and such.
Speaker 1:But I also feel that we are always going to have to put in new ways to be more efficient, especially because information is constantly and consistently so, not only readily available but readily in our face. So you have no filter and there's no way to disseminate information. Plus, I also feel like there's been a trend in the last, like I would say, 15 to 20 years, in an education stand, from an education standpoint of not really training people to be critical thinkers, so not teaching people how to disseminate and digest these ideas. People just hop on bandwagons and believe whatever these people say but, never read into it and go hey, hang on a tick.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What they talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, totally. And you know it's almost gotten to the point where real life experience sort of trumps so many things, People that are actually out there on the field. It's like, you know, if you can't do something, you can go to YouTube and kind of figure it out.
Speaker 3:For me, like I feel like and I know we share this like I feel healthcare should be a human right. It's kind of one of the focuses of our show and as part of those rights, you know, I feel like artists we have a unique position because oftentimes we don't have healthcare and I know, especially as musicians, there's no real way for us to get healthcare in America. It's so expensive and everything. And so the last thing that kind of gets even thought about is mental health, with artists that don't have any kind of healthcare and things like that. And so I'm interested in how, you know, we can sort of help ourselves. And you know, I'm very fortunate. My girls got great healthcare, which means I got good healthcare, but if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have healthcare, I wouldn't be in a healthcare. Yeah, exactly, I'd be screwed.
Speaker 1:So, looking forward, I also am interested to hear how I think that there's a trend, rather, in developing techniques to assist ADHD with medication and therapeutic practices that I'm happy to see. I'm happy to see that shift because I feel like a lot of people with ADD as kids or ADHD are just medicated without being told how to understand, how to use this piece of information like a key rather than as an impediment.
Speaker 3:Yeah amen, because in many ways it can be a gift. Right, I think it is a gift, I think it is a gift.
Speaker 1:I think that ADHD affects so many creative people because we have to process so many pieces of information to present a creative entity, so it doesn't seem like it would be that far off for a creative brain to have ADD of some kind or ADHD. But not being given any idea of how to utilize that and to quiet it down when you don't need to utilize it Must be very debilitating, and I'm glad to see that it's being looked at as just having blue eyes as opposed to having the mark of the devil.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like for a while, that's what it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right. So, coming up after the break, our interview with Sarah DeGrave stick around, okay, all right. All right, joining us for the interview today. This one again. We talked about it ADHD, creatives. It's something that's near and dear to my heart, your heart and everything. So joining us for the interview today, sarah DeGrave. She's a theater artist, a creative life coach and specialized in sort of I guess you'll say it the best way, but specialized in ADHD and creatives. Thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3:Now, how did you specifically focus on this? Because it is definitely a hypernich area, right, this is a hypernich lane, of which it's incredibly interesting because, again, we talked about this in the earlier segment it's the notifications on cell phones have changed our neurochemistry and I know the internet has broken my brain. So I'm looking forward to hearing what you got to say of how, creatives, we can sort of build some space back into our life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely an intersection of a few different areas of my life and passions of mine and pain points of mine throughout my life. I'm just like that's kind of you know what led me into this little corner of the world and I do like I work with people outside of creatives and even outside of ADHD folks, but definitely the people I really love working with. And a lot of what I focus on is working with creatives and also what falls under that is like freelancers, people starting their own businesses, people who are trying to create something, oftentimes in isolation or like independently, and it's really passion-fueled but there's not necessarily a lot of external structure or support and that can start to devolve really quickly when you have a creatively wired brain.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and I imagine that COVID exacerbated a lot of this, because I know for me I'm a type of person where I regularly schedule to be out of my house to create things, because I know if I'm in my house, the propensity for me to go on YouTube 12 minutes into my task is real high.
Speaker 1:And I also know that I would say a disproportionate number of creatives definitely have ADHD issues, because more creatives than not are like squirrel. Every time you talk to them about like you can't, it's almost hard to keep them on topic. So I imagine that COVID made that exponentially harder. So can you talk about some of the techniques that you have utilized to help people, especially creating something out of the ether? When there was no place to go and you had to be home, you needed different coping mechanisms. So what were some of those coping mechanisms? Do you know or could you speak?
Speaker 2:to that. Yeah, I think, well, you mentioned a really great point, which is you knew something about yourself, like you knew about yourself that certain environments don't work so well for you, and I think that's where it really begins is building the self-awareness.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I like to talk a lot in my coaching and in my work about like developing radical honesty with yourself and really looking at what's working and what's not working and accepting that on a level that maybe you haven't allowed yourself to accept it before and I think a lot of people when they get an official diagnosis or self-diagnosis, that kind of there's a sense of relief and that they suddenly like give themselves permission to say you know what actually like this way of doing things does not work for me and instead of continuing to try to push myself to fit into this system.
Speaker 2:I'm going to allow myself to design a system that better suits what I know to be true about myself, which is that, like I will get distracted or I need a certain level of accountability. That's something that comes up a lot in ADHD coaching is what level of accountability do you need? Or like external support and structure do you need? Is it just you need someone to check in with, or is it you need a body double, like some physically in the room or virtually working alongside? Do you need to leave your house?
Speaker 2:Yeah it starts with that. It starts with, like learning how to actually identify your needs.
Speaker 1:And knowing yourself. I feel like there's a huge push to know oneself, to help yourself with something like this, but I love that there are new techniques that talk about ways that you can help yourself with the assistance of medication and therapeutic tools, because I feel like we either told people just suck it up or we just heavily medicated them, and I feel like even people that we heavily medicated, we didn't tell them how to utilize this medication in a way that was productive or advantageous. Even so, what are? Do you feel like people are still turning to medication as a way of coping or do you feel like people have decided? Let me look at some of these behavioral traits in myself.
Speaker 2:I think it's definitely becoming a lot more of the conversation to say medication is a yes and type of treatment it's not gonna fix something. I mean also like the kind of shifting the paradigm on is ADHD something that needs to be fixed or is it just like you know? Part of the natural spectrum of human diversity.
Speaker 3:We were talking about that earlier. Yeah, whereas I think it's like my wife plays a superhero in a video game and it was the first with autism a female character. So it would be like as if I likened it to, like if Han Solo. You found out that Han Solo was on the spectrum, right, you know, you fall in love with the characters and then it gives somebody kind of like it's like a superpower all of a sudden. And I feel like ADHD, especially even with my wife, is a superpower and I know, for me it is too, because we create all this kind of stuff. But when nowadays, ever since the pandemic, we wound up having to be as artists, we also had to be, you know, had to be what do you call it?
Speaker 1:video texts, we had to learn how to be your writer, you had to be your accountant. Advertising.
Speaker 3:Your advertiser, your social media person, your marketer and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:And if you're a girl, you had to be your own stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist.
Speaker 3:Everything and to me that's jumping parts in my brain that don't. They don't function the same way, but yet I'm still getting pulled all over the place because the things need to get done, especially as we're all our own entrepreneurs. How do you find situations like that as best handled? You know, because we have the discipline. You just maybe don't have the structure or the system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and sometimes it's. I like to kind of especially if I'm working with someone and they have a specific, let's say, project that they're trying to complete creative project, and we kind of like go through the process and it's kind of like designing experiments for yourself and seeing what works for you and what can I learn about what didn't work and like where did it? Where did the train go off the tracks?
Speaker 4:That's kind of the metaphor I use.
Speaker 2:It's like, as I'm going toward my destination, like at what point do I just stop and what's happening? Like, what am I feeling physically, what am I feeling mentally and emotionally, and kind of how can I use those cues to help me then identify the strategy? So, instead of just like randomly throwing here's the top 10 ADHD hacks for a second search Right that somebody else did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a medium article and you're like, yeah, that doesn't work for everybody, like that it's not one size fits all, but it also sounds like structure is at the helm of this program and finding not just structure in and of itself, not in an esoteric term, but really tailoring structure to you, tailoring how you see structure and how you best respond to it. So what are key elements that you ask people to look at when you're asking them to reevaluate how they structure things?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and when I think of structure, it's really part of a broader like support systems. So I like to talk about building support systems. Oh, I like that. So those might be things like technology that can assist us, like apps and organizational tools, but it might also be relationships. So what relationships do you have that could be supporting you, Whether it's accountability?
Speaker 2:accountability, buddy, or yeah, hindering you negativity, and that's a thing with ADHD is also sometimes trouble setting boundaries is a common topic of discussion. So like, where do we need to set boundaries? Where are we people pleasing or being a perfectionist? That's the thing that comes up a lot. So it's like where is like sneaky perfectionism coming in? But it's really like looking at, is it, is it overwhelm? That is the issue. Is it prioritization, is it decision making? There are all these really kind of common ADHD challenges and so looking at it through that lens, it can kind of help us determine what type of a challenge is this and then what type of a strategy is gonna work for that. So for our listeners, out there.
Speaker 1:Let's just say I see this on the interwebs because, I am the squirrel like brain that I have and I scroll all the time. It seems like just from listening to you, I've noticed that you're looking at identifiers, structural support systems and how they affect you. So how do we help people identify? What are their helpful markers? Do you have any tips or suggestions.
Speaker 2:I think it starts with kind of like looking at what's happening in your life, like it's an assessment.
Speaker 1:Like a come to Jesus, Okay.
Speaker 3:I like that the accountability part especially is kind of interesting, especially for guys Like I see how that plays out where we're just dumb and you know. But I think that's playing out for everybody.
Speaker 1:I feel like our society has moved us away from A having normalized structure because of who that alienates, and it's also made us not really critical thinkers, so we don't digest information in the same way or know how to digest information, and we have to mitigate so much information being thrown at us. Where do you start? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:How does that now make everyone basically ADHD? My?
Speaker 1:mom was saying that the other day. My mom is like in her 70s and she was like I swear I have ADHD. And I said, well, I don't know who wouldn't. In these days and times I just think that some people have a harder time using that in their lives. But I was watching once a TED Talk and I wish I still can't find this TED Talk this day, but I'm gonna find it. But this guy had a really interesting point and he said you know, a lot of times we look at our character traits as flaws. So if you're a procrastinator, you look at that as a flaw, or if you're constantly broke, you look at that as a flaw. And he said well, maybe what if, instead, we looked at that as a character trait or a key? You know that this is a thing about you and now that you know that this is the likely reaction you're gonna have in this scenario, what if you did other things to preempt?
Speaker 1:a negative reaction. Knowing that this is who you are as a person, I feel like I wish that we applied that more to ADHD, because I think people just need to understand a little bit more about who they are as people and it would help them figure out. Okay, I know I don't need to eat sugar when I need to do this kind of project, because me and sugar don't align for this kind of project.
Speaker 2:So it's that same, it's that building of the self-awareness and really it's looking at. I say like look at the impact, and that's kind of where it can inform. What are you gonna do with the information? So it's like pausing, noticing like where are these ADHD type traits, which may or may not be from like a diagnosable ADHD, because there are like trauma, whether physical or emotional, like that can show up in a very similar traits. Or there are other. You know, just like you were saying, living in our modern world with all the stress and all of like the pandemic changes and I feel like you get a free ADHD diagnosis with the purchase of a cell phone, right?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's kind of-.
Speaker 1:Kind of.
Speaker 3:Kind of.
Speaker 1:Well now, can you Can we explore that a little bit more, because I was looking just at your bio and you do talk about the effects of trauma.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I feel like that's something that needs to be illustrated a little bit more. So can we talk about how trauma can specifically spark ADHD?
Speaker 2:I don't know that. I would say that it sparks ADHD, okay, but there I think it's just it's kind of I think a lot of people now that ADHD is becoming more commonly talked about and like really common on social media for people to be sharing their stories and then people see those videos and they're like oh, I resonate with that. Does that mean I have ADHD? And just recognizing that it's complicated, like there's a lot of things going on in our lives that could be causing us to exhibit the same traits or behaviors, have the same types of challenges that someone with diagnosable ADHD. So diagnosable ADHD meaning you hit all of the diagnostic, you know markers and the DSM five or whatever they're on now is gonna be there are a lot of overlapping traits, with depression, with anxiety, with trauma.
Speaker 3:So I think it can be really confusing right now to be like wait, do I have ADHD or am I just like or is it just really convenient to say that's why I was late, that's why I missed the meeting, sorry, it's my ADHD, like I know people be throwing that around nowadays. It's like, sorry, it's my ADHD. It's like, well, that doesn't justify the fact that you just ran into the back of my car.
Speaker 1:No, but there's also, like I saw this meme, that my single girlfriends and I we send memes to each other because, like at this point, we're just like, we're fine to die alone. Like at this point, it's great Like it's cool.
Speaker 1:But we sent my friend sent me this other one, being like I sit there and I look at God and go God, why haven't you sent me the man you know, my life partner or whatever? And God's response is girl, I did send him to you, but he didn't. You didn't like his eyebrows and that's so mean.
Speaker 1:Like I can find one small thing. Being like his left dimple is weird, and then I can't focus the whole rest of the night, Like because all I'm looking at is like his one tooth looks semi-dead. I don't know that I can talk. That is a dead tooth.
Speaker 2:I know what you mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That one tooth is a little dead. That is funny.
Speaker 1:It just looks a little gray and just not here.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, so I can just focus it can be one small little thing that distracts my focus from the totality of this gentleman that would have been and I guess you know, in this day and age of looking up everything on WebMD, it's very easy to self-diagnose in a way that makes you think you're bad. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:What I find really interesting around kind of the conversation around ADHD and getting it. I find it interesting that we feel like we need to have a diagnosis in order to justify having challenges in our life Interesting.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:Or in order to justify asking for an accommodation or just help, and I think it's very strange that, like it's not just okay for everyone to just say here's something I struggle with and I need help. I'd like help please.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then for other people to say I believe you and I will allow you to have help here's some help Sure. Instead, we're like. You have to like. Prove to me that you have a reason why you are struggling.
Speaker 1:But I like. Life is enough of a reason. And not only do you have to prove it, it's like you have to prove it in triplicate and then go to this specialist who-.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Officially diagnoses it and then sends you to the first person you went to, that you that signed the first form.
Speaker 3:And you're like Doc.
Speaker 1:Before we can talk about any of this, and it just seems like we're making it more difficult for people to help themselves.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Than ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is ironic, because ADHD, those traits make it difficult for you to jump through all the hoops. So it's like Because you're like okay, I'm just like.
Speaker 1:That's funny. Okay, I'm just going to go back to watching YouTube because-.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's the latest video that says I want to see your dick, and that seems more entertaining than staying on the phone with HealthNet for 45 minutes. It is Because I've done that and it's terrible, it's pretty entertaining, though, I mean jeez. So where can people find you and access to your services?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my website is alignmentandalchemycom, and that's also where I'm at on Instagram which is probably the best place to find me in the inter-worlds is at Alignment, underscore and underscore alchemy, okay, and we'll have this in our in our show notes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're looking, if this is something that you struggle with too, we'd love to hear from our listeners about this. Tell us some of your discoveries with this whether it was self diagnosed or officially diagnosed, and we will continue to tell you our own struggles on the path of the squirrel. And I really want to thank you, sarah, for Opening my eyes to looking at this from multiple angles, because I think I was willing to look at it from a couple of different angles, but I didn't realize how vast.
Speaker 3:The spectrum is. Look at this exactly, yeah, and even for the, the normalization of it in a way that makes the conversation something that is, you know, a discourse like this, because I know a lot of people, myself included, you know, struggled through and struggled through different parts of you know, mental health and everything. It wasn't this just that I was trying to get the Adderall prescription from no, but I but it is something that is I'm I appreciate Talking about it and I appreciate the fact that it's like like even on your website, when, when I went, there's the cool workbook that you actually give away, which I thought was really neat because you can kind of sort of it's, it's a way to Ask yourself some questions and maybe you haven't even thought about, and so, yeah, we'll make sure to, like I said, put it in the show notes and thank you for coming on and giving us yeah, giving us a little light on this. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me. Sure you're so great I'll take care.
Speaker 3:Oh, alright, alright before. That was great, though.
Speaker 1:I was really informative.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like I learned a ton, which was the objective there. But before we let everybody go, we can't, we can't leave without giving another episode of Tour stories. So this week I'm gonna, I'll lead off this week and this is a particularly great tour story. So some of this is a really close to the no-one vintage trouble might be aware of.
Speaker 3:This one there's when we very, very first started off as, right after, right after the Jules Holland show and everything, we're all of a sudden playing all over London and things. And it's that first time where, after the show, you you get to, uh, did you're at the booth and everything. This girl, she comes up to us and she's like, will you sign my boobs? And this is like the dumbest thing ever, right, so we're in swirled and ever. But you're doing it and you're like, of course you know you're gonna. You know when you find it, to quote kanya, when you find yourself up at the food court, you might have to try a sample, right. So we, so we, we, you go, and you see, I remember we, it was the band, it was around, I and, and you can't find, you know, not on the, you know not, not on area, area, or is another way. You sign it and then we're all done and she's, she's like, hammered, you can tell, and she goes, she's like and I'm sorry, what's the name of your band?
Speaker 1:again, yeah, you're like okay, that man, I'd like the rolling stone, the rolling stone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's one of my I always feel like I would never ask anybody to sign my boobs because it is a very unreliable space, like I have to be wearing the right bra for them to cooperate sure like what kind of lotion did I use that day?
Speaker 1:that's a huge factor, you don't want to be actually no, well, no, but like I feel like you'd have to be ashie boob for the marker to work, like if you were to sweaty you know, I'm saying grease stuff like you know if you had the shea cocoa butter lotion right sure you know that sharpie might be like slits and you ruin the side, and then you ruin the sharpie and then things is like eight dollars they're not, they're not cheap, they're not cheap yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good one you like it next time I'll be like what's your? I'm gonna come to all your shows, what's your band's name again, what's your band's name?
Speaker 3:again, thank you for signing me that's what I call the left one. That's the left one. Well, thank you guys for tuning in again. Do you have a tour story this week?
Speaker 1:oh no. But I wanted to say to our listeners if you heard any strategies in today's episode that you think help you deal with whatever adhd tendencies you might have, let us know.
Speaker 3:We'd love to know which ones are effective yeah, absolutely, absolutely some thank you guys for listening. We wouldn't be here without you guys, so thank you and we'll see you next week.
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