#28 - We Built A 2000 Card Cube!!

In this episode we talk about the 2000 card, mystery booster at home cube we've built, and how you can build one too to have unlimited chaos drafts!

Blank Mystery Booster At Home List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/136f9wHqjxWJxIaQ2Y-TwPuk0QS5GgG9Qr5KUDQcU26U/edit?usp=drivesdk
Set Skeleton Overview: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/nuts-and-bolts-15-structural-support
Set Skeleton List: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/nuts-bolts-13-design-skeleton-revisited-2021-03-22
Mystery Booster Overview: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Mystery_Booster
My Cube: https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/sweet
James Cube: https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/ba642a54-a6c7-4587-b97e-1d95429c59b5
MTGO Vintage Cube: https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/modovintage

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Transcript

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Unknown
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Powerful Nothing and Magic, the Gathering podcast for We Talk Cube, another magical goodness. I'm your host, Dan Burton. Only insight as to Sweet mtg. As always, I'm joined by my co-host James. How's it going, dude? Yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. Nice. I'm glad to say that we're back to a regularly scheduled episode.

00:00:20:02 - 00:00:43:23
Unknown
There's no set review for us to do this week. I'm kind of excited to talk about cool things in magic that we've been up to rather than having having new cards thrown at us at quite an aggressive rate. Yeah, we in very small window between sets not we aren't in for middle of spoiler season slash league season but be that as it may we'll deal with modern horizons.

00:00:43:23 - 00:01:03:21
Unknown
I'm full spoilers out right now we have a magical business to discuss. Yep exactly. So today for our main topic, we're going to be talking about a little project that I've been working on over the last couple of months. I've got multiple ways of describing it. I, by the end of the episode, will have worked out what the best one is because that will be what the title is.

00:01:04:00 - 00:01:27:19
Unknown
But it's kind of it's kind of a mystery booster at home or like unlimited chaos draft. Basically, I've built a 2000 plus card set and that is actually balanced and plays well today. We're going to be going over that process and talking about it a bit more in a bit more detail. But and as always, there will be time goes down below if you want to jump around.

00:01:27:23 - 00:01:53:22
Unknown
But first up, it's the news. So it's been a while since we've had a proper catch up. And James, want to give us a quick update on how the most recent pro tool went? Yeah, for sure. So most of be total. It was standard and the draft pretty healthy. Top eight. First of all, massive congratulations to Yoshihiko Aikawa for taking it down with the main revamp.

00:01:53:24 - 00:02:26:07
Unknown
Phenomenal performance. I think he dropped one match across both days, which was in Limited. He went undefeated in Swiss and Top eight was the main event, but a very, very top eight. We've got you Takahashi in second place with a serious control. Got both convoke camp as legends fall color legends. It's really sweet that actually chilling to talk about and timer analyst as well by Shawn Goddard.

00:02:26:09 - 00:02:58:09
Unknown
Yeah I think the first thing to say really nice to see an actual healthy looking standard format. I think it has been like decent for a while, but this is kind of the first time I've been on a big stage, I guess in a while, but it seems like pretty balanced, like a very big variety of archetypes. You've got aggro, you've got combo, you've got control, you've got vamp all in this off a and it kind of seemed like looking of the field going in.

00:02:58:11 - 00:03:23:03
Unknown
It was a lot of pivot mid range registered I was certainly the most played back by a decent amount and and it did fine to put two players into the top eight but certainly not a dominant performance kind of seemed like the people who did well were just the people who had a lot of that sort of that deck and played really tight and knew how to pilot that that fairly well.

00:03:23:05 - 00:04:05:05
Unknown
Most of the decks, I'd say, were like had new cards from the new set but weren't necessarily new archetypes purely for the full color legends. Like maybe had some of the most transformational cards from the new soft to really cool look in combo decks. She actually played constructed on Arena for first time in a very long time. The fact, you know, if I was about this stack tough one to pick up with with not much knowledge I'll say about that there's there's some very cool line basically where you're trying to get man's game you're trying to get to as if relic of legends which essentially lets all of your Legends Cup manner even when there's

00:04:05:05 - 00:04:27:18
Unknown
something sick that she's like tap from as the cost of the relic. that's cool. And then you've got VO now, which taps whenever you play a legendary spell. So that's netting you a lot of money. You can tap that many times from an overt fan, and then you get to a stage where you're using slogan to be a reward legend.

00:04:27:20 - 00:04:59:00
Unknown
So yes, not necessarily a staple that makes for elaborate slogan. The over slime is a SIM card from Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Been blue for a legendary creature ooze. It's a free free trample whenever Lancasters punch graveyard so many web accounts on it the move free counters from it to ascend It's to your hands And whenever slogan leaves the battlefield or set up to free target land cards in your graveyards to your hands.

00:04:59:02 - 00:05:30:13
Unknown
The way you abuse this valley is that the because all your creatures a legend legendary me channel land some time ago a very very cheap a mistake almost always just one to channel and then you come the keeper having fun with slow go like especially tack a new mobile on that they said it's the creature Yeah there's some really interesting lines of attack It's it's a very fun one but yeah very cool to see it see a nice a nice, healthy, balanced standard format and I enjoyed watching that as well.

00:05:30:13 - 00:05:52:03
Unknown
The, the format seems pretty good. I wasn't watching much of it live. I sort of caught up on some B some videos, B draft coverage. So I always find a little bits A can be a little clunky. It's not a it's not a format to build to the coverage. So it's it's tricky. Yeah. And it's you have like eight cameras or that kind of that, that kind of stuff.

00:05:52:03 - 00:06:10:21
Unknown
Yeah, a little bit tricky, but you could go much down the second. But this is the first time I've seen this in a note before. This is actually what James wrote on our show, Dog Stand. It actually seems cool. Those are words like I've seen or heard whispered for quite a while. So yeah, that's good to know. Yeah, there's some stuff going on.

00:06:10:22 - 00:06:30:10
Unknown
I kind of suspect I think it has been decent for a while, actually. I just haven't been paying attention that. Yeah, I might actually play a bit both as well. Sober. I mean, I guess what we're about a year after they extended the ban the rotation by an extra year to just having more cards to play with means.

00:06:30:12 - 00:06:52:23
Unknown
It means you can do cooler and more fun things. So yeah, that's awesome. Nice. And there was something else you want you want to touch on James So it wasn't all positive. That's a few things. Kind of like with the qualification system for the Pro tour. Is that it? It looks like it's caused some issues with some pro players like John to give us a bit more information on that one.

00:06:53:00 - 00:07:41:07
Unknown
Yes. So basically, when they say pieces back, that is a big part of redesign of the whole qualification system. That's who qualifies for what and what. I think one of the upshot of that is that it's very, very hard for players to consistently keep getting Pro 12 invites, even if they have some great results. Not that long ago, I believe a best best example of this is probably Nathan Steuer, who I've now fallen off the face of, which is kind of insane and like he wasn't approached for actually a year ago, March for Machines one he came first, top hated four one before that and a few months before that one.

00:07:41:07 - 00:08:12:14
Unknown
Well, I was literally world champion. And then he had asked me if I'd like to offer more positive records, which is not an easy feat. And an operator and then had about four sort of SBC and is now off the train. Basically, the system only looks at your last three results and it just feels to me like if you have been so far above that bar that you need to be out to qualify for like a very sustained period that should be a mechanism to give you a bit of grace.

00:08:12:14 - 00:08:33:20
Unknown
You know, I think if you literally win a very tough world, see shit, you should have a decent number of qualifications in the bank as it works. I think you want to see those like the carrying storylines, like you want to see the best players playing as often as you can and especially now. But not that it's not inducting new people to the Hall of Fame.

00:08:33:21 - 00:08:57:24
Unknown
So if you're someone like Nathan Stoya, who's in an on new magic play, of course, that he's, you know, has had most of his success in fairly recent times. So after they just cut the cut off for Hall of Fame, that's kind of not really an avenue for him to do someone like that, even if they're incredibly successful, to sort of lock up a decent period of sustained invites.

00:08:57:24 - 00:09:19:05
Unknown
You're always like a couple of bad results away from being off the photo. It feels kind of tough because correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Hall of Fame used to come with like, not unlimited? Andrew The prototype? It can't be like a bonus. What was that? So it did used to be unlimited photo invites. You can then buy that free one on the whole fame.

00:09:19:08 - 00:09:40:16
Unknown
Now Hall of Fame members get one free one a year, and then I'm sure someone will correct me if this is long. I think they get invites to all vases. Right? Okay. That makes sense. Is it is part of the issue with this is that kind of when they revamp the system kind of like previous previously, I mean, like five years ago, there was like GP's as well.

00:09:40:16 - 00:09:58:13
Unknown
There were other big tournaments that you could. Yes, yes, you're aiming for the proton, but there's other big there's other more variety of big tournaments you could play in and kind of get your points that way to qualify for you is one of the issues that kind of we don't like, like GP's haven't come back like, yes, we have magic comms but they don't.

00:09:58:14 - 00:10:18:22
Unknown
There's like four year of those and the prize is normally just cash. It's not really like it's not really for that. I'm going to say like grinders, but kind of like, like people invested who are trying to play competitively. That's not really the system for them that they want. It's kind of like there hasn't been a comparable replacement to GP's as of yet.

00:10:18:22 - 00:10:45:21
Unknown
It is a big issue, do you think? Yeah, for sure. I think like there's I mean this and in some parts of the world there are some like big and big cash based ornaments, right? But they're not everywhere and they don't necessarily feed into the competitive system and help you qualify for other things. And on top of that, yeah, in a lot of parts of welfare, there aren't these opportunities available really.

00:10:45:21 - 00:11:14:01
Unknown
And yeah, even when there are, you know, they're not GP's, they don't get the GP top rate used to qualify you for fatal. You don't have that sort of common event. Now we have a system of queues when you get to a regional championship, if you do well there you can get to the fatal. But it's, it is more steps to get there and you don't have phase vascular events that are kind of worth going to anyway.

00:11:14:01 - 00:11:43:14
Unknown
And I'm like, people would just going to GP's to qualify for fatality against GP because the prices were great. GP is always a very good fit. Everyone enjoy GP and now it's kind of lined of like, Yeah, especially if you're starting from no qualifications. It's like it's kind of going through a bunch of queues at your local game stores in your area, which is, I mean I'm not knocking on that at all, but it's, it's not for that.

00:11:43:14 - 00:12:06:16
Unknown
People on whether there's a trip to a GP and you know, we used to get plenty of tips and like funds initially in places and it was always good time and it was like, and on top of that we can potentially qualify for a cool thing that I think a lot of players miss. Mystery Yes, we have major cons, but GP's are free to just go through the door.

00:12:06:18 - 00:12:25:02
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, I think that was wonderful. I miss that, but I miss that. Yeah. No that's about Yeah, yeah. It's, I mean I think I think most players would agree that the system right now isn't perfect magic cons have just been wildly successful, so we could just see more of them and then they could move back into the GP's, that kind of stuff.

00:12:25:03 - 00:12:42:15
Unknown
But time will tell. Basically. I think we're kind of have to wait and see what happens with that. I'm assuming the next protocol is actually magical, not to them, which me and James will be there for a little bit of. So that should be fun. I get to watch a bit. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be a good one. Hopefully.

00:12:42:15 - 00:13:06:03
Unknown
See some listeners then. Yes, if you can, if you can work out what we look like comes out. Hello. Nice. But yeah, I think Let's move on to our next bit of news now. This one is definitely more recent. We and by yesterday at time of recording had a bad and restricted update from just a card pool point of view.

00:13:06:03 - 00:13:26:07
Unknown
This could be the biggest one in quite a while. But in terms of actually cause that affect things is actually quite small. So we'll run through it quickly and then we'll kind of chat about them each individually. So in legacy vintage and Pauper, all cards that bring a sticker or attraction into the game are banned. So that was from the Infinity.

00:13:26:07 - 00:13:55:14
Unknown
What was the last unsigned AC Unfinished? Yeah, you had the sticker mechanic which required you putting stickers on cars or on cards and attractions, which was a whole subject there. They're gone from legacy vintage and pauper. I what what worth any other format that uses the vintage bandolier. So like Canadian Highlander they're also banned they're in just pauper All that glitters is banned and that's the card that gives a picture plus one plus one for each artifact and enchantment I think you control.

00:13:55:16 - 00:14:17:05
Unknown
We will come back to all of that is important. I think the main one we want to touch on is the stickers and attractions, because kind of but we're talking with other players and also my wife, who is a big legacy player. I think part of the main reason for this banning, I kind of like this isn't this is kind of a ban, not as much based on raw power level of the cards.

00:14:17:07 - 00:14:41:13
Unknown
It's more just the accessibility of it because basically some of these basically these ticket cards weren't able to be coded as they would be in paper on magic online. There's a big difference. And like the main culprit is stick a goblin underscore undesired, such as a slash goblin. It's basically it's two in a red for a two to create.

00:14:41:13 - 00:15:02:11
Unknown
Creature goblin creature. Goblin guest actually, yes. Which is definitely a card. And when this creature entered the battlefield, you may put a sticker on it. Add red for each unique vowel on that stick. That is how it works in paper. You also had a sticker deck online, same amount of value to in a red for two to when this creature entered the battlefield from anywhere other than a graveyard or exile.

00:15:02:11 - 00:15:32:01
Unknown
It was on the battlefield and you control nine or fewer creatures. Names stick a goblin, roll a 20 sided die. If it were a 1 to 6, you had four mana. If you roll 7 to 14 at five, if you roll 15 to 20 at six minor, that is a completely different card. And the deck online was you cast goblet, you cast this goblin on as soon as you can and then you land the six Manor Muxes and just dump the goblins into play.

00:15:32:01 - 00:15:50:01
Unknown
And then you went to half a goblin deck off a combo deck. Now that is very different to how the deck functions in paper, because you actually have to use stickers. You actually have to have used the cars as intended. And I'm kind of not surprised that deck. Like, I would not be surprised if part of this ban was just day breaks got going, like we're never going to code this card.

00:15:50:03 - 00:16:24:13
Unknown
This is miserable. Yeah, I mean, it's and all of these problems seem so foreseeable of avoidance. They decided to put these cards into legacy and vintage was of the old firm that hadn't been on those formats. Yeah I'm not online the place fine is actually in the current modo vintage. Q Banks are very nice additions. Q But I was actually considering off and printing off a paper version of fee, a paper copy of the online versions, but into my pay for queue because I kind of want save and cubed.

00:16:24:13 - 00:16:56:16
Unknown
I'm certainly not like having stickers and stuff, but yeah, it kind of wild. But they chose to put these cards in the internet actual like competitive one on one magic formats and it seems like a pretty good thing that that come close. Also the discussion about just the practicalities of having these stickers cards entitlement it's like so you actually my understanding is if you're playing in a tournament and you put a stick card note that you have to like register it that called stickers.

00:16:56:18 - 00:17:18:07
Unknown
Yeah, I think that's the same with attractions. Like, don't you need like a deck of ten or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's also this thing of like cracks in Metamorph. It's quite a widely played cards and legacy. And if you are registering cracks in Metamorph, you kind of also need to to register a deck and stickers in case you needed to copy a name sticker off of that you know.

00:17:18:12 - 00:17:42:19
Unknown
Right. Like it was neat you know it's competitive event people one of the edges so you kind of have to do that. Yeah. Personally what my life had been, I think the justification for putting them in piece formats was, well, we want them to be legal and commander, they need to have a view to have cards, be legal and commander and not be legal and legacy and vintage and proper.

00:17:42:20 - 00:18:07:10
Unknown
Like this is kind of a nice silly instance of this we've seen. But I think to say a lot of the same things about initiative and monarchy cards like no, I think all those cards are necessarily bad for vice formats, but these are cards that are not designed with one on one magic in mind. Like multiplayer. Magic is a fundamentally very different game.

00:18:07:12 - 00:18:30:21
Unknown
Like, I understand that. It's not like that designing all the other cards with legacy and vintage in mind, but they are deciding it with like to play a competitive magic in mind cards for me to design for that probably so. So these cards are from infinity. Infinity was was one on one. It wasn't a sure. Yeah. No I think of it.

00:18:30:21 - 00:18:56:20
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Infinity was one one but not designed to be competitive. Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That I like. These are all but silver costs. These are legacy legal silver cards. It's kind of the way a lot of people think about them. And it is just like it's just the fact that these cards are so it's not like the Warhammer cards were just like a year because of licensing issues to bring them on like these cards, like the sticker cards especially, are just so wildly different.

00:18:56:24 - 00:19:14:08
Unknown
Even like, like, okay, the end result is you make some red matter, but the whole method to get there is completely different. And I know there are other cards that have been banned because of this. Like, like, like, like the whole like all of these deck of cards and all these ration cards have been banned kind of because of effectively this goblin really.

00:19:14:10 - 00:19:44:05
Unknown
But just like this one, like that problem of just it being such a wild like a wildly different card really sums up, I think the issue with this. Yeah. And it's it's kind of a latest thing and a kind of recurring theme, I think, about them not thinking about the these formats which are now played, you know, the vast majority of plays, of games, of legacy that are played, are played online.

00:19:44:05 - 00:20:18:15
Unknown
But I see that to be true of I don't think it's that I'm pretty confident in saying that that's true. And same with vintage. And those formats need to be the same with it would be really disastrous for the total formats. If we get to the point where you can't play quote unquote proper, like the proper vintage online, which we have between, we don't have licenses of these cards online or we put cards in these formats that are impossible to reasonably code online, etc..

00:20:18:17 - 00:20:52:13
Unknown
And it's quite a worrying trend for a title format, which I understand was his priority. But maybe they just need to figure out a way to it. If the cards aren't going to be reasonable and usable in that format, then they don't go into that format. Yeah, yeah. And that was think it's not so much the thing I've just let Dave just saying it's not, it's not like a arena where they can just say we're not printing these cards into this game system because these cards are legal in this game system in paper and people and yet people want to replicate that online.

00:20:52:13 - 00:21:20:07
Unknown
So yeah, it's a decision earlier in the release, basically before these cards are released, you they need to say these cards are not legal and you need to look like this card but these cards can still be come out. They are still come on the legal that is not vintage legacy properly like they could have been that from the start and I think most people would have been fine with that no issue if I'm in commander because commanders you know if you want to play a sticker stacking commander that sounds great.

00:21:20:07 - 00:21:39:07
Unknown
And I'll say, Commander, I don't feel the need to try and get an edge by being like, I've got some clones in my deck, so I'm going to print off a deck of stickers, too, you know, That's fine. Yeah, I like personally, I think these cards, like from a casual point of view, I have no issue with these guys at all.

00:21:39:09 - 00:22:03:17
Unknown
I have no issue with stickers. But yeah, just from a completely competitive point, you fight like when like judges have to, like, check for sleeves and stuff, like how the stickers work. Like, like really come on. But like, because also so you can move them around as well. And that just seems like a massive so yes, I think you know that one last thing I do kind of want to touch on so specifically with the stickers and the attractions are I think I didn't really touch on attractions, but I don't think that really matters, if I'm honest with you.

00:22:03:22 - 00:22:28:09
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, I think Night Vale Live a big impactful one from this list Was that that name Second Goblin I'm saying named second Goblin because I can't pronounce seven underscores he's was just Goblin Yeah One thing that I think could be quite interesting is the modern Horizon's story comes out in a month. Do you think they just print the online version into modern?

00:22:28:11 - 00:22:46:20
Unknown
Because Max's isn't legal in modern, it's legal in legacy. Do you think they just okay with be bandit here is here is the actual here is the card that we just banned but this the online version just roll the dice do the thing that's kind of a not a bad solution honestly. Yeah. There's nothing won't be online version of the cards.

00:22:46:21 - 00:23:03:18
Unknown
Good for competitive play. It works well yeah yeah it's I think it's going to as it so sets out from what I've heard and what I've seen it's it's a very strong card or the deck is very strong. It's like top five decks but it's not like warping the format, it's not like it's a menace. It has to be gotten rid of.

00:23:03:18 - 00:23:35:22
Unknown
It is purely a gameplay matching paper online issue, basically. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it must feel very bad if you fall into that deck and then it's banned for this reason. Like it wasn't banned because the deck was too good. It was banned because we realized we shouldn't have put these cards into this world. That savage It wasn't banned because you were because you got to spend like six months farming, like farming cards and gems and gold and whatever, and like, chess and stuff online.

00:23:35:24 - 00:23:59:13
Unknown
No, it was it was a good it was broken. Yeah, it was. It was banned because it was a good card that they couldn't work out a way to make work on both. Yeah. That's, that's not great. Let's, let's, let's, let's quickly touch on Pauper because all that glitters was banned That's one white for a enchantment aura and try to create your as well as one for each artifact and or enchantment you control.

00:23:59:15 - 00:24:16:11
Unknown
I think the gist I hope with this one was that it was just a bit too snowballing. It was just kind of like you play this in a deck. Like like so many things make artifacts. It counts itself, accounts multiples of these. It just kind of just takes over. And when games is just a bit too good, it's kind of wild enchantment.

00:24:16:11 - 00:24:43:11
Unknown
Aura is too good. But yeah, I'm like boggles exists. I'm assuming there's there's many good creatures you can stick onto in Pauper. I think it's actually mostly affinity. God, yeah. I don't think we're worrying a affinity groups. I think we're just checking this on and on and going It's always, it's always bloody affinity things that get everybody involved.

00:24:43:16 - 00:25:04:22
Unknown
It's Yeah. Although I mean I will press this by saying I don't know very much about Potter but yeah, as I had this idea, it's basically like putting this on the we should all default so that it's it's above a lot of broke them out. Yeah so I'm looking at a deck frogmen or a man force because I don't none of the artifact lands abandoned port but that seems like a mistake.

00:25:04:23 - 00:25:31:22
Unknown
Okay no I mean weird format like this is a format where dark ritual is legal. Yeah. So they just have to ban every stop. So it's like you could just. That's a ritual. But, you know, when I'm at. You think thinking of playing some pauper in the next couple, in the next month or so, a game so near us has started putting it on on Mondays and apparently burning inquiry and faith is looting our legal in this format.

00:25:31:22 - 00:25:56:22
Unknown
So I'm I'm game out and and read return and dredge cos that's that's the more important part I should have thought of. Yes. But yeah, it's like great troll path legal now. Grave trouble is definitely some of that. Yeah. So I think freedom's a common and I think redemption, common thug, thug is for some reason not uncommon but yeah, it's dread return and lots of giant other problems.

00:25:56:24 - 00:26:17:19
Unknown
But yeah, treasures and lot left Giant Sounds good. Exactly. Yeah. So maybe in the next couple of months expect some pauper content. If that's your jam, we'll try and give it to you. Right. Awesome. So with the news out the way, let's jump into our main topic. So today we're going to be talking about the mystery booster at Home Cube.

00:26:17:21 - 00:26:39:00
Unknown
It's kind of yeah, it's it's it's unlimited chaos. Drive. It's mystery booster. It's a 2000 card cube. One of those. There's a cool name in there and we might get it by the end of the episode, but so yeah. So today we're going to be talking about the process that I went through, putting it together and kind of basically so anyone out there who wants to follow it and build their own can do it themselves.

00:26:39:06 - 00:27:05:01
Unknown
Resources will be down in the show notes for this. Like there will be a blank version of the set that I put together if someone wants to copy this and build their own. But yeah, we can kind of jump in and talk about it a bit today. So Daniel, building your own mystery piece, at fact, I assume this is not just main guessing versions of cards from the event that they play at Magic Clubs.

00:27:05:03 - 00:27:25:08
Unknown
This is something a bit more. Well, at first I believe. yeah, a little bit more yet more elaborate and also cheaper because. Yeah, so Mr. Booster, for those who don't know, was a set that came out I think in like 2019 and originally something that was going to going to be sold at all that you could do at conventions basically to replace Chaos Draft.

00:27:25:08 - 00:27:46:14
Unknown
The idea of it was it was a sealed product that you could buy, you could draft, and it would replicate the feel of the chaos. Draft Chaos draft is for those who don't know, is basically you just draft with a bunch of old packs and you don't really know what you're going to open and it's that specifically for me, like my favorite form of magic is going to be it's like limited at its most pure.

00:27:46:14 - 00:28:00:20
Unknown
You're kind of like, yes, you might have seen most of the cards before, but you will never have seen them together in this thing. So like, you can't really go into it with like a like, the blue black deck in this format is the best because the format is random. You don't know what you're going to be opening.

00:28:00:22 - 00:28:21:17
Unknown
It's kind of like you're you're very much you are using all of your drafting skills to the fullest to kind of find your lane, see what's open, try and get some synergies because yeah, you're playing with cards that were never meant to be played together. So and finding those skills energy just kind of like is like the most Timmy thing that you can really do.

00:28:21:19 - 00:28:42:22
Unknown
Yeah for sure And the games tend to play out. It's like the very nuts and bolts message right Like not limited to like the last two years limited of like Yeah. A course set in 2018 sort of fights with like all the two four ones really really matter you've got to get every last little bit of value you can out of all of your cards.

00:28:42:24 - 00:29:08:13
Unknown
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I remember the last like, like we did a chaos draft as friends, right? But like two or three months ago and just like. Yeah, like, like when you are playing with older packs, there is definitely an element of like, a lot of creatures used to be very bad. Like, like, like, like it's been a long time since I've been excited to open three manor vanilla, three, three James And like, premium premium takes, like, exact amount of money.

00:29:08:19 - 00:29:28:17
Unknown
Yeah, it's these kind of like, feelings and combinations that you've got. It's kind of that there was definitely an element of like nostalgia with this because like part of the point of me doing this project was playing with all the cool guys that I wanted to play with again. And yeah, kind of like. AB But that's something that, that you get from chaos just because like, yeah, because you see old packs.

00:29:28:17 - 00:29:47:07
Unknown
Like if you've been playing a while, you will see cards you played with when you were younger. There's certainly an element of nostalgia, but I also wanted to kind of try and capture with this project as well. But I think one of the differences I very much noticed between the Mystery Beast draft environment that you built versus doing a chaos draft is chaos.

00:29:47:07 - 00:30:09:07
Unknown
Draft is full of awful cards that you should never put in your deck if that's how all the magic set were designed. And the mischievous environment I think has very few bad cards. So so that's very much by design and also akin to the mystery product that they released, basically both Mystery booster and the one I put together.

00:30:09:07 - 00:30:38:22
Unknown
It's effectively it's a code, it's a collated chaos draft. It's unlike an actual chaos, right where you are running like where you are finding like four mana, two ones with drawbacks. This kind of stuff like, like, like every card in it is designed to be playable and good, but you still have the variety of a really large set, like from a power level wise, it's kind of somewhere between I was like, actually I'm like a pauper or peasant cubes will be a decent way to describe it.

00:30:38:22 - 00:30:57:00
Unknown
And I mean, I'm like, like a modern pauper and peasant cube, but like, this still has grass and it like, has. But a lot of the reds are kind of older and cooler and I like that kind of thing. Yeah. I think that elements of you can it feels like you put a lot of your own personality. that certainly.

00:30:57:00 - 00:31:25:22
Unknown
I get that from your mischievous environment and like if a different person we knew built in this environment, it would be very different. And I think that's a feature, not a bug, right? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can really you are very much kind of like you're, you're picking around 2000 cars and Yeah, you can really tailor it to what one you're going to tailor to some of the cars that you own because 2000 cars like, like we'll get to going to cost at the end.

00:31:25:22 - 00:31:47:12
Unknown
But this wasn't super expensive to actually put together because Yeah, because, because like that. So when I say it's 2000 cards, like about 16 1700, those are commons and commons from various draft sets. I think when I put I think I end up buying probably like 600 cars and they were all about between five and ten each, that kind of stuff.

00:31:47:12 - 00:32:12:06
Unknown
And they would and that a lot of that would have been cheaper if I kind of thrown away a load of my draft. Jack when I moved house a couple of years ago. So like this is technically something that kind of like if you're sitting there at home with a, I'm going to say, a long box like, like a stack, a pile of draft cards from the last, like however long you've been playing, you can definitely put something like this together if not for free, very, very cheaply.

00:32:12:06 - 00:32:42:00
Unknown
Kind of like I'll kind of go into bits where I spent money a bit later on, but kind of like, yeah, kind of like this is definitely it, but it's definitely a cool project for people to do. If, if they like drafting, they want to draft a lot and they have. And yeah, it's a good use for those old cards that kind of you just have lying around are kind of like, like a game stall isn't going to take a stack of draft comments from the last 1020 years and such like that but but this is a good use for them and I generally think people out there will really enjoy this.

00:32:42:02 - 00:33:01:21
Unknown
Yeah, for sure. It will also be very nice that every time you do a prerelease something, you're just like, look, I got a few cards for my miscue. This stuff. Yeah, yeah. There's definitely a large amount of tinkering you can do to this. As much as your heart's desire to be able to kind of go through how we put it together and kind of how you can change to it as well.

00:33:01:23 - 00:33:41:10
Unknown
Yes, I'm moving on to the practicalities of this. When I've drafted fish, you evolved to have nicely curated packs of magic cards and we drafted them and that was very easy and straightforward for the rest of us. I'm guessing there's quite a lot more going on behind the scenes though, so think so. But basically what I have at home is I have a double long box of 2000 cards with sections split into the different colors, the five different colors, Cutlass lands, multicolored wrappers, and then I buy it as little bonus cards that I kind of get onto.

00:33:41:16 - 00:34:06:06
Unknown
And then basically I can use those to make packs kind of like. So the starting point was the booster pack, and that's kind of where the mystery booster, the the packs were seeded and that's basically what I replicated with this. So with the mystery booster packs that I was kind of taking inspiration from, slots like 1 to 10 were two cards of each color.

00:34:06:06 - 00:34:27:02
Unknown
So like 1 to 2 was a white card, 3 to 4 was a blue card, that kind of thing. Then you had like a multicolored card, you had artifact or land, you had arithmetic with the 15 card frame and one with the preemptive thing like, like an old border frame. And then you also had a bonus card at the end.

00:34:27:02 - 00:34:49:14
Unknown
So in the monster booster, it was like Playtex cards and a second print run. It was the foil sheet. I basically used that as a starting point and then worked my ratios backwards. I did change it slightly, kind of. I made it so that I had a dedicated slot, a dedicated artifact slot, and the multicolored slot just because having different borders and frames didn't really work for me for the bulk of it.

00:34:49:14 - 00:35:06:12
Unknown
So it's like, that's that. That's the pack. That's where I'm working back from. The second part of this that was important was something called the set skeleton. And this is something that kind of the design is going to like Mark Rosewater and Gavin, which is kind of like alluded to and mentioned in detail for a number of years now.

00:35:06:12 - 00:35:33:10
Unknown
But basically that was an article released at the start of this year where Mario just gave out the skeleton, just gave it out. And basically the set skeleton is basically what designers use to start designing a set. It basically tells you how many white one drops and what they should roughly do. There should be an asset, how many blue uncommon counter spells.

00:35:33:10 - 00:35:51:12
Unknown
This kind of stuff, especially like every card you can think of that appears in a magic set. They have broken it down and ratio to out correctly so that designers can just add their cards to it to build a set basically, and kind of look like it's weighted so that blue has more innocence and Sorcerer is green has more like five plus drop creatures.

00:35:51:12 - 00:36:13:11
Unknown
Everything's kind of like, like, but it's kind of put together like you would surprisingly like when you would build a cube, would take the things are weighted into their sections pretty well and basically with that set skeleton, like that's how they built Memory Booster in the first place, they basically took that skeleton and multiplied it by eight. But basically what I did with this, I took the set skeleton, put it into Google sheets.

00:36:13:11 - 00:36:37:14
Unknown
There will be a link to a copy of this if you want to download it yourselves and make your own in the in the show notes. And they multiplied that skeleton by eight and then they filled in the cards for memory books and basically that was what that was the process of working out the base of it. And then when I had that, I had a set skeleton for a memory boost, except I had my 600 or so cards for my comment and comments.

00:36:37:16 - 00:37:02:21
Unknown
And the thing with the sets as well is that the race so it is common and uncommon and the ratios of those are correct. So you have like two thirds common at that uncommon, which basically means when you shuffle it together and deal out and make your packs in a pack, you might end up with four uncommon over your colors but over the whole draft, it will average out to be the correct amount of common and uncommon in a draft, and that's kind of what you're aiming for.

00:37:02:21 - 00:37:24:13
Unknown
So by doing it this way, it really it gives you the variance, but it gives you the structure because, you know, in your draft set you're going to have the right amount of black removal, you're going to have the right amount of aggressive red creatures that might amount of big old like amount of like a child removal and what you like and all of your all of your bits, all of your pieces are taken care of you by the set skeleton.

00:37:24:15 - 00:37:50:20
Unknown
And we mentioned blue. So again, we're just multiplying it by eight. So that's basically that's the back end. Mucking around with Excel spreadsheet things I had to do for like a week to get this set together. And then kind of once you have that, you have the bare bones, you can then start filling in cards. Okay, so we've got our set skeleton, we've got a, a helpful Excel space based resource provided by excellent content creators on the Internet.

00:37:50:22 - 00:38:12:04
Unknown
Now we need some cards. Go at it. It sounds pretty overwhelming. Starting trying to find Tool 2000 cards to fill up your messed up stuff where do you start with that? Yeah. So I'm going to caveat all this by saying that I did this. I had like I was off for two weeks because I was having surgery and I was actually recovering from surgery.

00:38:12:04 - 00:38:30:09
Unknown
So like, I personally think I could have done this in like a day or two. Like, like in, like, and like, like in, like a couple of, like weekend evenings, that kind of thing. But like, there's something about, like a week to kind of come up with the list cause I was struggling to use a laptop because of it, because I was recovering from surgery, which was not super fun.

00:38:30:09 - 00:38:51:03
Unknown
But like the actual finding the cards, it was actually the most enjoyable part. Yeah, it was the best and most arduous part of the talks because like how I started doing this, it's kind of how I actually ended up doing like a lot of stuff with cubes or kind of like quarters that I'm doing. It's kind of I asked the people that I'm playing, I'm planning on playing it with this come does two things.

00:38:51:03 - 00:39:15:07
Unknown
Firstly, it gives you a bunch of good ideas that you wouldn't have thought of because generally if you're playing magic with people like, well, like, like, like, like if you have friends do you by magic with they all have their own different expressions. They all either own different pet cards and you get good ideas from that. But also it kind of gets people more excited about the project because it's like, I was slightly more involved with it and I kind of like, Yeah, it does.

00:39:15:09 - 00:39:31:06
Unknown
It does double duty like that. And like, like, yeah, just getting people involved I thought was really what was really helpful and gave me a bunch of ideas. But yeah, the first thing I did was just like messaged the desk that this would be just like, Hey, I'm making my own mystery boost to set. I need 1600 cards.

00:39:31:08 - 00:39:52:13
Unknown
What are your favorite to draft commons and uncomment? Yeah, this. I think this is one of those things where it sounds like you're asking your friends to help you out with a project. You're actually just giving them a great opportunity to talk about old magic cards. But we like sub for hours. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if they're in a pub that helps.

00:39:52:13 - 00:40:16:09
Unknown
I think. Yeah. Drinking some outsourcing in this part certainly sounds strong. I definitely, definitely at the start because like. Like, like, like because yeah, there is parts of me I could have just sat down and gone through Skyfall and filled it in, but like, yeah, like, like playgroups have these experiences. They have like, like, like the first, the first card I was, I was also put in was Burning Vengeance.

00:40:16:11 - 00:40:43:14
Unknown
I was like, yes, that is a banger of a magic card. Like, like, like, will there be support for it? Maybe. But that's 1600 cards. You have enough slots. And also specifically in like, like in this skeleton, there are slots that are for just like that. There are flex slots built into it like, like, like, like, like sets build around commons and commons that like, like burning benches was probably that in in, in original in a straddle or whatever it was from back then.

00:40:43:14 - 00:41:09:12
Unknown
Like, like it was probably one of those cards. So you can definitely have these like seeded cards as well. But yeah, kind of like just, just reading through some is that so many bangers on here? Like, like flames on coffee for action Ranger web, wrecking ball, skull skulls, spider spawning mayhem, Devil recruit with a worthy slice of skill, Young Pyromancer, abs and Falconer.

00:41:09:12 - 00:41:40:08
Unknown
That one takes me back. I love a bit of Obsidian Falconer kiln thing, Good spirits. I like it because so many bangers and like yeah that's that was really wonderful about just, just getting like, like pages and pages of just cool cards because you have so many slots. You can basically if someone, someone gives me flames on coffee for drop creature uncommon, you just, you go to the slot, you go to the sheet, you go down to red, you find your four drop uncommon creatures and you add in flames on top and then it's there.

00:41:40:08 - 00:42:01:12
Unknown
And that's one zone that is one entry. You, you are trying to do this with the with or. Yeah. You're trying to fill in the whole thing which again does take time. But yeah, that was definitely Yeah. Getting people involved the first place I started. Nice. So I'm interested with the inclusion of Burning Vengeance for example. I'm guessing you have to be.

00:42:01:14 - 00:42:25:04
Unknown
That's obviously like a build around card, but it's a build around card. But there's a wide variety of ways to trigger that about the history of magic. But you just have to cast a card from your graveyard that you can flash it back, you can gargoyle, you can add NFC quills and totally not probably shouldn't be and but whatever it might be, as I said, there's a lot of ways that magic spells out by.

00:42:25:07 - 00:42:44:07
Unknown
I'm guessing you need to be a little bit careful, but I'll build around have a broad enough theme by you wouldn't I assume want to include like an Energy Matters card because you're just not going to have enough added up? No, I think that's fair. So so so so that is something that you you actually it was a conversation.

00:42:44:09 - 00:43:21:14
Unknown
So when old packs were more readily available, not chaos drafting with packs with parasitic mechanics was something people spoke about. So like, it was kind of like a tip when you could just go into a game store and buy a bunch of packs. Now you can do that, but it's quite expensive. So like previously did you it you'd be like, don't do out don't have calories in there because because there's no support for energy in other packs don't do it Original meridian that had in fact again this this was before toxic and before stuff like that came back we're kind like but yeah like those were kind of the classic sets are kind of

00:43:21:14 - 00:43:43:08
Unknown
like don't put those in your mystery books because they won't synergize with, with anything that's gonna look like those are something you kind of have to consider. And to extend that is something to consider. Yeah, you are correct and kind of that is something to consider with this. But, but, but even just might not be the best example of this but could go because like Burning Avengers was just a card was kind of like there's so many cards in here like like look like you cannot support like a single deck in this.

00:43:43:14 - 00:44:06:14
Unknown
You cannot support a specific deck in this 2000 type format. But you can support kind of rough archetypes. So like you can say so in mine, but like, like, I just like this is something that kind of like most of the most sets will genuinely do anyway. Kind of like is it will be slightly spells based, go gory will be slightly graveyard based, that kind of thing.

00:44:06:15 - 00:44:26:01
Unknown
Like, like, like as Aureus might have some fliers as it tends to do this kind of because like that's something that set designers do from the outset as a plan. It's something that kind of like I kept in mind with this kind of like especially when I got the gold cause I did trying to keep them roughly in those kind of similar vein.

00:44:26:01 - 00:44:59:01
Unknown
So the decks had some kind of cohesion while also being randomized. But with just going back to the build around, it's kind of like, like in a catastrophic there are cards that don't get played and that don't get played because they are bad or don't work. And like in limited drafts, like, like in and in set drafts, that used to be more of a thing, kind of like going away with playbooks is there's less room for just bad cards because there's way more common, although there's way more powerful and commons now than is less common.

00:44:59:01 - 00:45:15:22
Unknown
So it's really less bad cards in the set, but in old magic. But like yeah, if any of it is in the pack and you see it and you take back and pick one, you might not get fair with it, but you might have it in mind and you and, but the thing is that because of the, because there's so many cards, you might get that with it.

00:45:15:24 - 00:45:31:06
Unknown
And that's kind of the payoff is like it's something you can take and it's something you can have an eye about building around. And it might not get that. But if it does, and then it's really cool when it's something that you have done that no one else will probably ever do because of the variance of the whole thing.

00:45:31:08 - 00:45:58:00
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of them seem like some. That seems like tough, but like you had out, you know, like actually maybe an even better looks like Drake Haven. I think I saw in one of the packs, which is the whenever you cycle or discard the card, you can pay one to make two flier And I think Mustafa like normal cycling payoffs like Xena flair plan for example fate deals damage equal number a cyclist near graveyard.

00:45:58:00 - 00:46:22:02
Unknown
I don't think that would ever realistically get that right. You just don't get enough cyclists because Drake Haven also works off just discarding a lot of ways to discus. You can work that out, it seems like. Yeah, all the cards, but like you wouldn't get that every time. But sometimes would. Definitely. I kind of like after I got like mates, some friends to kind of give me some cards.

00:46:22:07 - 00:46:39:17
Unknown
And the second part was going through cards I like. It's kind of like going through like cards, like part cause I owned was definitely a part of that because I didn't want to spend too much like, like this was a product I was trying to do with the cards I had or a small investment. That's kind of one of the best things about it is that it's not super expensive.

00:46:39:19 - 00:46:56:14
Unknown
So part of it was was it was used by cards I had and cards I like and kind of like the next part of that was going through sets I thought were cool and picking cards out from them. And that's kind of how you get a little bit of synergy, the kind of accidental synergy on top of the ones you're putting in.

00:46:56:14 - 00:47:11:18
Unknown
So kind of like, like that's what kind of like cause like flashback that would work with Burning Vengeance, that kind of thing, kind of that's kind of where they kind of came in because I like, went back to like, what's is it from Odyssey was flashback images almost from torment or something like that? I think I'm going to say torment.

00:47:11:18 - 00:47:36:11
Unknown
Correct me if I'm wrong in the comments or something like that, but like I like those sets. I like regular stuff. So kind of like you could definitely. Yeah, I think you mentioned earlier you could kind of tell parts of it were made by me and I definitely started off with some of the choices that I liked because like, yeah, like, like I started playing them like Onslaught BLOCK and there's a fair bit of Onslaught BLOCK esque things in there.

00:47:36:12 - 00:48:08:08
Unknown
Kind of like there's more because more are cool and have appeared in multiple sets and just go really well when drops, there's like there's a little bit of tribal stuff or little bit of table matters in here kind of, but it is not in any way like I am not forces at all, but in the but it's stuff you do see and like I have done in mystery books and I've done in chaos, just like I drafted an elf deck and a memory booster before I think the last the last time we drafted this, I had a pretty good Minecraft goblins deck.

00:48:08:10 - 00:48:32:03
Unknown
And I guess that's the sort of fight you need to go for, right? Because you can put some goblins payoffs in and without trying very hard, you'll have a decent number of goblins in your that slot because magic design is like goblins and you don't have to put a ton of work into making your goblin pay off. What if you have to making your goblin pay off potentially be good?

00:48:32:05 - 00:48:54:18
Unknown
I'm guessing you don't want to be going all in on like problem. It's tribal. man, I would say no. No, exactly. Yeah. So like, like the kind of the roughly seeded creature types are kind of like white, I think is soldiers. Blue is wizards, black is zombies, red is goblins. And green is elves. Like, like those are all pretty stark.

00:48:54:18 - 00:49:08:07
Unknown
Like, like you could definitely make, like, white, like humans maybe, or something on that, but I might be a bit too that. But I thought that was a bit too generic. I kind of thought soldiers were cool and also. Yeah, but we, we were going back to Onslaught with that one a little bit because I was making people play some bad soldier cards.

00:49:08:08 - 00:49:34:00
Unknown
I think soldiers, this one, the first tried swear like there's not a ton of sets that have a bunch of soldier payoffs that are just like a million soldiers soldiers. And that's like so many of the white cards, whatever they are. Yeah, it's a human soldier or it's a dwarf soldier. So whatever soldier, you know, that seems like they could get out.

00:49:34:02 - 00:49:50:12
Unknown
No, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm asking because you have so many cars that you can start puts like, I'm not going to say packages, but kind of like put in cards that kind of rough, like kind of do interesting things with each other. Like, like type, like type. All matters is definitely like because is a way of doing that.

00:49:50:14 - 00:50:14:23
Unknown
But there was one I put in that was like six cards I posted and I never thought would come up. I put in like the six mares, the six horses from like one of the core sets or something like that. And then just in multicolor, I put in Shadow effects, which cares about horses. In the first one in the first half we did, I got, I had three horses and shadow effects.

00:50:14:23 - 00:50:41:14
Unknown
Well I had, yeah, I had, I had horse tribal thing, I was like phenomenal. I can't believe this came together and worked Amazing. Just getting Nighthorse tribal, I guess, But that was fun. But yeah, kind of. I guess I'm just rounding off. Kind of like. Like some of the ways I put this together. Kind of like towards the end when I kind of, like, felt like when I kind of coming to the end of getting the list completed.

00:50:41:16 - 00:51:03:15
Unknown
One thing I did was take inspiration from like pauper and peasant cubes because those are those are kind of like the the power level I'm roughly aiming for, if that makes sense. Cause like, like in this, like, like I didn't want just like, mystics and rats to be, like, the best thing I would have. Like, like, I think I said, going into this, I want the best card in it to be Siege Rhino.

00:51:03:17 - 00:51:23:07
Unknown
And I don't there are there are more powerful class in Siege Rhino in here. I will be honest about that. But like that was kind of like what I was aiming for. And if I kind of went slightly above it, that was fine. If I'm slightly below it, that was fine. But that kind of like Khan's pre-fight level of magic, kind of like we'll get into the red in the minute because I haven't tried that so far as a comments in on comments.

00:51:23:07 - 00:51:45:08
Unknown
But like power level wise, I wanted it to feel more akin to like all the nuts and bolts magic. And I think that's kind of definitely a plus point of doing it this way. A plus point. I thought it worked out quite well. Yeah, for sure. I think that is something you could like. You could go in a different if someone else would fail to go one, they could certainly go in a different direction.

00:51:45:08 - 00:52:10:09
Unknown
I think you could shoot TYO or shoot lower with that power level. So we talked a lot about finding the good commons and commons, which for vars so know to see if we aiming for best card is CGI. Now we're staring away from like the A-plus bombs and limited bombs and recent sets. How did you go about selecting the vase?

00:52:10:11 - 00:52:51:06
Unknown
So for the rest I basically took I read for each color at each manor value. So there's like five white fight, there's five white, one drops, five white, two drops, and that's the same with everything up to six. And then six plus is kind of everything up to five, and then six is six and an above that. And basically I kind of, if I want to at one was cards I owned or cause I thought were cool and kind of like that part is definitely way I kind of like you need to do a bit of judgment like there's very few what you would call standard or like bomb in that.

00:52:51:08 - 00:53:16:08
Unknown
And the ones that are but the more powerful ones are like generally a cup of five mana, Like there's some big angels and there are some big dragons, that kind of thing, because those are cool and you do need to end games and that kind of stuff and you do want someone to open something like, that is a cool and powerful card, but kind of like just by not having that, but by basically by having like your raw power be at a higher mana value, it definitely makes it easier.

00:53:16:14 - 00:53:41:01
Unknown
Yeah. And even be expensive. Felt like they were the thought of. There's that. Yeah. If you play them and it survives then it'll probably win. You've a game that you can also just point of removal spell at it and it will go away and that will be fine. It's not the you know a Bonnie pile from this set till like a plains walk or something.

00:53:41:03 - 00:54:14:11
Unknown
So much. Yeah definitely. I think I've pulled up here. I think this is the best example of like a low drop rare and this is like, do you know what skin shift that just does James outside to it is one the green for a11 creature human shaman it has green has a green ability of choose one to activate only once each turn until end of turn it becomes a four for rhino with trample or until anytime it becomes one of the two two bird with flying or it becomes a plant.

00:54:14:13 - 00:54:46:23
Unknown
Like it's kind of it's a cool like vibes was important with this. It's a cool card like that in theory. Could be a three man, a44 with trampled, or you could make it a bird to get around things like like like a cue cards is kind of where I was going with that. I'm going to one the other things that I did which which I quite liked and I know I said I wanted to make this be about like all the nostalgic magic, but like I did also pull quite a little bit from like onsets with this and also universes beyond cards, because some of those I do really like, like, like I really enjoyed

00:54:46:23 - 00:55:10:21
Unknown
The Lord of the Rings draft. I thought that the Warhammer 40 K decks were awesome and like stuff like looks like the Warhammer and the doctor who won those and, and even I think there's a couple of fallout cards in that Basically with those ones I generally kept it to commons and on commons because there's a lot of cool cards in there which will not see play in any format.

00:55:11:01 - 00:55:26:14
Unknown
But they are awesome. Like, like, like a card, like noise Marine That was a card that when we did the set review, I was like, Could this be a storm buy off? And you were like, No. Daniel No, it kind of. But Noise Marine is really cool. It's a five, a32 with Cascade when it enters the battlefield, does damage equal amount of spells.

00:55:26:14 - 00:55:41:07
Unknown
You cast this term to any target. It is an uncommon and not going to see play in so many formats. But it's a really cool card and there's so many actually like that in the in those, you know, it's beyond sets and it's definitely a place where you can play them and they're not going to be broken like that.

00:55:41:10 - 00:56:25:08
Unknown
They are on common power level. They're not 2024 broken regs, they are cool cards basically. And yeah, that was something I really enjoyed with it as well. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so right now we've got 13 Commons and on commons the top 14 is a viable metric there. But because these aren't played this system, we're not shortchanging you, you do get a 15th slot while guys in the 15th slot so the 15 slot like I, I said to be a all art slot so this is so in a load of bunch of packs recently certainly you've had like the mystical archives which is like a card that could be anything that's like roughly themed with

00:56:25:08 - 00:56:46:01
Unknown
the set. But so with this I generally, this is the one slot where I don't actually I wasn't sure what's in it. I have taken a collection of, but I think it's mainly commons and on commons there are some things in there as well, but kind of like all top cards from all of like the mystery boosters, this is like from all the mystical archive slots they've done.

00:56:46:03 - 00:57:07:02
Unknown
So like Strix Haven sets other than Strix Haven to go by brothers war with the artifact ones like like an anything cool with all art. But like, I think there's even some secret layer cards I have as yet. The smokestack is a secret layer one that was kind of like this that the point of also 15 is that it's random.

00:57:07:02 - 00:57:34:12
Unknown
I don't know what it is. So that yeah, it could be anything. And it's kind of like a it's a way of cool variance in variety without really having to try that hard. All I did was just get a load of commons and commons with different artwork and put it at the back and shuffle it together. And you have variants, you have variety like some of these cards because like strategic planning or like OP or like a rampant growth, but I'm pretty sure there's an all out sneak attack in there, if I'm honest with you.

00:57:34:14 - 00:57:59:24
Unknown
And that's cool. That's like, like, like, like again, most of time it'll be because like, because it's roughly more commons and commons than rare. And methinks it will it will play up most of time. Fine. But every now and then someone's got someone's going to have to pick one to sneak attack. And that's cool. Yeah. Sounds like my classes are high, so once we've held them in the spreadsheet, we've got a less roughly and hopefully we own most of the list.

00:58:00:01 - 00:58:21:09
Unknown
And, and I think you could certainly just do this entirely from cards you own. If you have a decent sized collection and haven't found a way chess. Right. But I'm guessing when you've set yourself or doing a decent number of cards. Yeah. Yeah. So I think out of the 1600, I think I bought about 600 cards or something like that.

00:58:21:09 - 00:58:43:10
Unknown
I think the order the order works out to about 80 quid and most of that was shipping. And there were some custom issues with the order coming from Greece. That's just because, like in the UK, it's oddly like you can't no store sells cards for less than 25 PPI anymore. Like they definitely used to be like a lot of card stores that would sell you like a draft common from the last five years for 510 PPI.

00:58:43:12 - 00:59:08:09
Unknown
But I get it things growing up someone actually has to go and pick the card. I get that like everything is going to. So yes, this is just my point of view. I, I used card market. I fully maximize the card. The card was anything on website to try and try and find someone who had as many cards as possible and bulk what was money from them was in one go.

00:59:08:11 - 00:59:24:08
Unknown
Yeah I think I think I owned about. Yeah I think it's like a thousand commons and on commons I owned and then I bought the other 600 from, from one seller. There will not be an easy way for me to tell someone how to this, like everyone at every country, will have different shops and that kind of stuff.

00:59:24:10 - 00:59:43:04
Unknown
Yeah. The other way is also ask your play group like that that could be part of the process when you're kind of putting together in the first place. And if I was, yeah, if I kind of thrown away my collection or if I hadn't thrown away a lot of my draft commons or just like my chat box when we moved house, like this would have been a lot easier.

00:59:43:04 - 01:00:05:16
Unknown
Like, like, I think like the example I get you just like, I never thought I'd have to buy a bacon to a party, but the format of removal, the format removal style from L train is like, I never thought that I would need this again. But yeah, yeah. If you have these cards, if you have a shoebox or like a date, I know people who've had like, not, like, like just containers full of old magic cards.

01:00:05:16 - 01:00:25:17
Unknown
You could definitely put this together really, really cheaply. Yeah. Because you don't need to, like, come up with a list and then see which ones I own my daughter For that straight. You can look through your shoe box, see what I own, and that is a lot of list. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. So everything with me is like this was like a project I was doing while I was off sick.

01:00:25:21 - 01:00:57:05
Unknown
You could easily, like, just, like, put this together slowly over like a month or two, kind of just like if you just been to, like, pre releases over like the last couple of years, you probably have most, you have enough stuff to do this anyway. And then over time you can kind of pick up cause you think are cool and at the end because because one thing that I, I initially started this to fit in a 2000 card long box are 1600 commenting on comments and then 400 like Razz and mythic and all talk cards but kind of like you can definitely say like my my one is eight times you could have more you

01:00:57:05 - 01:01:13:12
Unknown
could in theory have less as well. But I'm like, like, like when I add cards to this in the future, I'm not going to add like one or two cards. I'm going to add another like 250. I'm going to add a whole other set of cards. And I'm like, That's how I'm going to do it. Everyone is going to definitely like if you want to add like, but I'm trying to keep that correlation there.

01:01:13:14 - 01:01:32:03
Unknown
Once you have it together, you can do it, do with it what you want, basically. And I'm guessing when you're adding new cards, you're not like taking all those cards out. It's just getting bigger. Yes. Yes. So the way I'm going to do it is I'm going to I'm not going to add anything until like I had a whole set of cards, one to the to the comments and on comments to the resin, to the old on cards.

01:01:32:03 - 01:01:49:23
Unknown
I'm just jamming more into the box as I find them and think they are cool. But the balance doesn't really need to be like, screw it. I think it's of cool. We can go in the box, but I get that for commenting on comment because I want to keep the correlation or yeah, I want to keep the guys in there so that when I shuffled them together to make it pack the is roughly correct.

01:01:49:24 - 01:02:17:11
Unknown
Basically it's as quickly as possible if you start jamming in like 20 more white comments that will change the variety and enemies are kind of you don't get as good a combination and as good a gameplay in my expense or I'm going to drop it when you're playing it with your friends. Yeah, for sure. I'm. And then once we've put this together, so if you're building a queue, once you put it together, it's it's pretty low effort from there, right.

01:02:17:12 - 01:02:47:16
Unknown
You just show up with a queue, shuffle it together, deal out some packs fast. With this it's a little bit different because each pack has this many commons, this many commons, this one there and you always show up with just nicely pre-made packs. How, how much of an effort is that? How, how, how long are you spending before each draft making this tax smart enough?

01:02:47:18 - 01:03:09:05
Unknown
So I'll be honest, it probably is about as much time as it takes me to do my regular cube. When I when I when I prepare for a 540 cube draft, like like my regular full cube, I am like pile shuffling that for like half an hour to make sure it's four, right? It's right to because I kind of the sanctity of the cube like we take it out quite seriously.

01:03:09:05 - 01:03:25:06
Unknown
There's like steaks, there's like a belt, there's a name on the box. There's there's stakes for that. This, this is the opposite. Like this mischievous thing. Like this is like the best. Like the best. What I've described is like pub magic, it sounds like is the best is just like, chill out and play on like a week night or something like that.

01:03:25:06 - 01:03:49:23
Unknown
It's not like you're going to play some games that are cool and interesting. That's what's it for. So how about the way I prepare? It is basically in my long books I have each section, each kind of card slots is its own section, so I firstly take the weight. I will give him a bit of a shuffle. I will then basically start making packs carbonated and you would have to do something similar to this if you were doing a set cube anyway.

01:03:49:23 - 01:04:09:07
Unknown
So saying like it's so you had your ordering set cube or you had your common set cube, that kind of thing. Like you still have some code like packs this way anyway, kind of like with this you do have to do. So I would take two from the white pile, put it in a, put it down, make it back, take two from the blue, two from the black, two from the red, two from the green.

01:04:09:09 - 01:04:31:03
Unknown
One artifact, one cut, one land, one multicolored spell one grab, one mythic. You would do that for your whole 36 packs. All that all for your whole 24 packs rate draft is. And then you have a pack. Kind of like the way I do is I will I will make nine packs at a time. I will do eight packs face down and one pack face up.

01:04:31:05 - 01:04:53:21
Unknown
So I know I haven't buggered it up so I don't want to get I don't want to know what's in the packs, but I want them to be correct. So I'll do like eight piles of the first two white of like the white cards. Then on top of them, I'll add the blue cards and that kind of thing and kind of like, Yeah, just like just by having my eight packs, I'm going to put into containers and then one pack face up that I'm not going to put in.

01:04:53:21 - 01:05:16:06
Unknown
The container just lets me know that. Okay, this is roughly correct. So this is good. Basically, we're not going to show up in this pack. Has 15 green cards in it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense for sure, because you get the things I actually show up with is the not sponsored, but that good is the Dragon Shield Cube shells.

01:05:16:08 - 01:05:36:06
Unknown
I think the initial ones had a bit of issues, but these are the improved design. It says it on the box. They're just really good like that. They're kind of like the equivalent like tube images or something like that, but they're just cheaper and more easily available. They are just plastic booster packs. It's a small, so small plastic box that seals itself and fits and holds some amount of cards.

01:05:36:06 - 01:05:56:13
Unknown
I think it will hold 15 eight cards. And one thing I haven't mentioned, which are probably important to keep the cost down on this, this is not sleeved. No part of this 2000 card cube is sleeve because the average cost of the card is like 5 to 10 be sleeping. This would have been hundreds of pounds, which I am not spending on this.

01:05:56:17 - 01:06:14:04
Unknown
And you should know either. Like the whole point of what this is doing is cheap, enjoyable, replayable magic. And there is something about and I like if people want to play with sleeves like like I do, I'll be able to play with sleeves like. But during bringing sleeves to a draft, 12th Night isn't the end of the world.

01:06:14:04 - 01:06:41:18
Unknown
But yeah, just dropping them properly in cardboard, as Richard Glover intended is quite nice. Yeah, for sure. So when you normally open a blister pack of magic cards from a regular set, they tend to give you conveniently the tokens included in that set. If you're drafting 2000 cards across the history of magic, I'm guessing that's quite a wide variety of tokens.

01:06:41:18 - 01:06:59:15
Unknown
How do you deal with that? We don't faff around with tokens. So. So. So yeah. So in my actual cube, I actually it's kind of pedantic, but I make sure I have in my, my full cube, I make sure I have every when I add a card in, I will make an effort to get the token for it or at least create the token for it.

01:06:59:15 - 01:07:18:18
Unknown
I'll do a little doodle, but put it in a sleeve and. It's there again for this. We are trying to we're already making packs. We're putting together 2000 cards for tokens. I just make sure to bring a pack of like the infinite tokens or whatever they call it or other brands will have basically the white board tokens and a marker.

01:07:18:20 - 01:07:35:16
Unknown
There is one that lives next to the box. I bring that with me and people can draw and make their own tokens. And that's been perfectly fine. Like I if I was starting my cue from scratch, I would probably do that for my cube just because it does work and is cheap and it's relatively affordable and is very rich.

01:07:35:22 - 01:07:59:13
Unknown
And yes, it just works and it's cheap and you don't have to buy like buying tokens can be quite expensive and just annoying. Like it's just another thing you have to track down. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm really on board to have be the little white body type tokens I actually use, but my main keep as well because I'm lazy and then I find I use the site commander as well.

01:07:59:13 - 01:08:18:24
Unknown
Like any, any casual sort of magic I think is the end up just being a lot easier than chatting to the members, Find all the tokens you need. And I do think for my main cube, I do think I built it before it was more widely a right, like it was white. I'm sure. I'm sure a version of those have been around because it's just a bit of white board.

01:08:19:01 - 01:08:41:14
Unknown
Yeah, right. Yeah. And not a new invention. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I thought it was not something that was in the magic play a zeitgeisty get me out of this. Now. Basically. So cool. Yeah. So should we covered the, the sort of practical elements of putting all this together and filing a draft. How have you found feedback and the gameplay?

01:08:41:16 - 01:09:03:13
Unknown
So I've really liked it. It's probably been some of my favorites, just like ways of ways I've played magic and a fair bit of time. Like, Yeah, so as I've mentioned this, I kind of like Chaos Draft is my favorite form of magic, and I don't get to do it anywhere near as often because just there was a time when, when, yes, you could buy packs and they were cheap and you could do it.

01:09:03:13 - 01:09:21:22
Unknown
Then there was a time where, yes, you could do it at like GP's. Now I don't they do, I don't even think they do mystery booster drops at magic columns or anything like that anymore. I'm kind of like so this kind of this part of the game has really not been available to me for like, for like a few years now.

01:09:22:01 - 01:09:47:05
Unknown
So just having access to it has been phenomenal. Like it I actually think it is the magic I am best at. Of all of the magic I am good at, I think I am best at draft formats. When no one knows what doing. I think I have very good fundamentals but little patience to learn the format. And this is perfect for that because the format changes every time.

01:09:47:05 - 01:10:05:13
Unknown
Like you have so much variety, kind of like you will never draft the same deck twice and that is really cool and gameplay wise as well. So because the packs are correlated or I because the set is great because you have the right amount of bits at every function. Yeah, just the variety. Yeah. You're never going to have the same deck twice.

01:10:05:13 - 01:10:39:23
Unknown
You're never going to have the same play experience twice. That part is really exciting to me and it's been really fun and kind of like, yeah, just having that variety and just the decks that people have just been fairly good bread and butter draft decks like they like if you like, if you like turning creature sideways or doing like cool and interesting things, we kind of like evenly power and like, I don't know does not sound like a boomer here is leaning to like just like it played it plays like how you think you remember magic playing when you were younger.

01:10:40:00 - 01:11:05:13
Unknown
It plays better because by God, we have done chaos drafts and the decks are awful. This, this, the decks are good, but it plays like how you think Magic used to play. I think that's probably the best way of describing it. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah I've, I've, I've loved for drafts I see. I've found for them to always be my voice to magic is the thing that like I very rarely maybe get magic.

01:11:05:15 - 01:11:33:00
Unknown
I mean Cuba's amazing very success, but I love limited and limited now, and that isn't a bad thing. I still play a lot of them, so I really like it. But limited now varies. The format is it's not soul, but it's so much is known about every format so quickly, especially with we've been mentioned of 17 LANs, the data tracker on.

01:11:33:02 - 01:11:53:23
Unknown
We now know that this format is like, you know, two days in an F1. So that De la Celeste is amazing and it's, you know, yeah, that would have taken not that long ago even without that, you know, that took a couple of weeks. And this is like a really nice refreshing antidote to that because no one knows what's going on.

01:11:54:01 - 01:12:20:16
Unknown
That's Great. And adjusting a new thing every time for gameplay feels like a lot more. It feels like your decisions really matter. So that will solve. Yeah, like nuts and bolts limits. That's gameplay, which I think is can be lost in memory since that's just because the are so powerful. The aggression is so like this. Like modern limits is just very, very quick.

01:12:20:17 - 01:12:40:05
Unknown
Like, like the you compare one top ten limit sets now to at a fingerprints at five years ago covered that it's night and day they all have like 15 abilities It's bizarre yeah I think the last vanilla creature was like three or four years ago. Am I meant to say even or something like that? You are familiar creature.

01:12:40:07 - 01:13:11:08
Unknown
Yeah, but where's this? Feels like you. You're going to play some of the game some ridiculously long, but you can play a game decent. Like you're going to have a lot of decisions make. And if you make the right decisions, you're really going to get more wanted for that. Like this phone where some at this time be correct not to kill that creature when you can kill it because you want to save the other and be a little spell for something more impactful later on, like judging.

01:13:11:08 - 01:13:30:10
Unknown
Do I have time to do that? I afford to be slow. And whereas it feels like an embodiment of sense as like, well, all the creatures are very powerful and will probably kill me. So I kind of just need to kill from when I can, you know, a lot of steps and stop that. I think that's a prevailing theme of recent limited format.

01:13:30:10 - 01:13:53:11
Unknown
So yeah, I've really liked it and the decks, you know, the decks feel a lot more like I it is definitely catastrophic vibes, but the decks feel more coherent and chaos. Jeff decks by a lot like, yeah, I kind of maneuvered Coughlin's deck for was like very much doing it thing like it wasn't like a million goblin payoffs, it was like two goblin pay offs.

01:13:53:13 - 01:14:16:22
Unknown
And some chief goblins are like an played against a like not very nice to have them do like sides deck which is, is kind of the exact sort of archetype, but it does work well because it's every level since all that basically has a blue light five stack. So when you put together lots of good Cummins non Cummins you'll be able to build up like five stack.

01:14:17:00 - 01:14:39:18
Unknown
I think there's a similar space thing available maybe was like that black sacrifice. I think it could certainly make work as there's just support for that over because I like great sets. Yeah yeah No I've I've really enjoyed the gameplay enough. A draft slot. Yeah yeah, yeah. Then I'll just like curve out aggro deck swinging at each other.

01:14:39:18 - 01:14:57:00
Unknown
Kind of like people can build cool and interesting things and also because the because you are using the set skeleton that is there for you, it means that kind of you naturally have built into it like you have control decks you have. Yes you have. I would x, but you have like midrange, kind of like if you wanted to see some combos in there, you can find like, like, like Mystery Booster.

01:14:57:06 - 01:15:28:24
Unknown
The product had kicky combos in there, like, like junkie and a bunch of like, not like to see for kind of the flash ones, but kind of like just creatures that when they came in on tap creatures and that does go infinite with stuff like kick like Cookie Jiggy, like kind of like you can seed combos in that because like these things do come up in chaos drafts and kind of like that is something that is quite cool and kind of one of the things that I'm looking at next is more like the more is more build arounds and oddly more multiples of cards.

01:15:29:01 - 01:15:47:10
Unknown
Is this because we did a chaos like the last couple of we did that was like three of one random ogre open. Is it just been printed so many times? Like we had like a battle one packed, a conspiracy packed and like a sterile stack. And there's just one for on a33 ogre that was open, three that we saw three of.

01:15:47:12 - 01:16:08:07
Unknown
And there were conspiracies in that set which care about having multiples of the same God. I'm like, I'm not saying these in a jam. Eight squadron walks into it and go to town. But like, like I think like, well, I like three Colossal dread Modes is kind of thematic, if I'm honest with you. Yeah, but it is, I think, very important that you get four versions from different sets.

01:16:08:09 - 01:16:31:17
Unknown
I think from each time colossal treadmill has been invented. Yeah, like I think, I think my version accidentally has two seven angels in it because I must have put two in a somewhat I think I might put in one at one an uncommon and one at rare. So in theory there are two sour angels in it. But that's something that does happen with chaos drops in.

01:16:31:17 - 01:16:54:00
Unknown
That's kind of one of the things that I'm trying to replicate is kind of maybe leaning into that a little bit and doing some stuff with conspiracies. I do. I do like the sound of the future because also I love Conspiracy Draft as well. I'm kind of just having like a little sprinkling, like I'm like not not in any way making a conspiracy group, anything like that, but having a little sprinkling so it can come up I do think is quite cool.

01:16:54:02 - 01:17:20:19
Unknown
Yeah, that's, that's we were just going to wrap up this section of the podcast. I will I would I will make sure that there is a link to both my version. The thing I actually know, I'm not gonna put the my version in because I don't want my play. Good to know what it is. I want it to be a surprise and I will make sure that there is a link to the blank spreadsheet that you can copy and make your own version of this down and that in the show notes below that there will also be a copy of the blank set scales.

01:17:20:19 - 01:17:38:22
Unknown
And if you just want to build a regular set with this, that's also Turbo. I will also put a link down to the Mark Rosewater article where he goes over the as if you're if you like, magic design. It's it's a good read like like like I would recommend it kind of really lets you kind of learn how the nuts and bolts of it set work.

01:17:38:22 - 01:18:00:15
Unknown
I'll put that down in below as well as any other resources that I've used to make. This level will be down below so you can have access to them, right? Yeah, I think that's going to do it for our main topic. We have a last section to touch on today, which is what have we been playing? So we've really kind of spoken about some things with the memory boost around, but we've been playing some of the magic.

01:18:00:15 - 01:18:26:02
Unknown
James new Cube season is up and running on it. GO How have you been finding that? How have you been doing? Yeah, it's been fun. I've not been winning many trophies yet, but that's okay. A few times I just gave it to a Finn of interesting some some nonsense artifact X That's been a lot of fun and some cool new inclusions from from recent.

01:18:26:02 - 01:18:51:21
Unknown
So that's one that's fairly overperformed actually that I was surprised by is I don't know if we can talk about a soft slide desk memory. Maybe we did. And it's like a two minor enchantment. The concepts that I'm getting have come back in head. Do you count on something for each extra card you throw on the sun? Turns out it's just really easy to draw lots of extra cards and cube in you.

01:18:51:21 - 01:19:10:21
Unknown
Yeah, like you just wheel and get seven power. Or are you even just like that? With Sylvan, Life is like three counts as a ten, you know? Pretty good. Okay. Yeah, I think we there's a chance we might have spoken about it. It was two set to go, James. So there's no way of me remembering. Yeah, no, this time it's, it is a messy.

01:19:10:21 - 01:19:35:01
Unknown
We'll never know. But yeah, no changes have been cool. No, like, I'd say vaguely like radical new archetypes or anything, but some cool standards. It's been fun to play with. And then we went to the cube in person a couple of weeks ago, or like a week and a half ago, and you took that one down. James, congrats.

01:19:35:01 - 01:20:01:21
Unknown
You're back on the box again and you are the reigning defending undisputed champion. That's eight for you now, still the highest well done. And how was your deck and what did you draft? Q Thank you. Yeah, it was it was good. So I drafted I would say aggressively fast, salty with lots of spot removal from good value creatures just getting over myself for the baleful streaks.

01:20:01:23 - 01:20:28:14
Unknown
And then no, it was good. I'd say 7/10 Q Is powered down a little bit like the moving the initiative creatures for failing. Guess a lot of that stuff that the very powerful part of stuff that just felt like it ended the game very quickly and I sat made quite a conscious adjustment that I can play reactive magic again.

01:20:28:14 - 01:20:51:18
Unknown
I'm going to take some of the movable spells and some fixing and draft a bunch of good cards and that went pretty well. I think I had like four fetch runs up to five packs or something that I thought was great. And then I just just drafted gift cards across a variety of colors. So I was so actually splashing a couple of fetch cards as well as physical Moloch cards.

01:20:51:18 - 01:21:09:18
Unknown
Make it more like sweet. Yeah, yeah, you were on my left and I. So my cube does have double features. They were packs with like two or three fetch lines and then was like, we'll one, this is fine, my debate is easy. And then yeah, it comes around and was like, I see. I've made a mistake, my deck.

01:21:09:18 - 01:21:33:03
Unknown
And that was one I think I went, I went to one. In the end I was kind of a cheated, let's say Re-Animator, but Four Spells was kind of like trying to cheat and cause big spells. So standouts in my deck were like things like, General Kehoe can like Magma Troopers, some blood for the blood clot, which is a very big, very big and some penitent.

01:21:33:05 - 01:21:56:14
Unknown
And I also had some infinite turn stuff with all kinds of on Bush's new one I brought in, which might actually be a bit too powerful for mine, a conspiracy card that basically lets you it gives the creature has an ATB of a card you've drafted so the thing with that is I put an extra turnstile under it and then if you have a way of flicking a creature every turn, you take infinite turns or you just cast a spell a bunch of times.

01:21:56:16 - 01:22:31:02
Unknown
So that was pretty strong. I did that, only one with that once. But the best play of the day. First time I play with Palantir of all. Thank very you. Yeah. So I told my opponent over two turns with that the first he Yeah, I flipped like £10 worth of stuff off it because because I get my, my like my deck is was very cheap stuff but trying to cheat very expensive stuff and he had it to be fair he hadn't seen the very expensive stuff he seen like days, swords and that kind of stuff.

01:22:31:04 - 01:22:54:03
Unknown
So I balance it and then I slept like a plains walker and a sex like. Like, yeah, like I forge up in a stage. I he's like, that's, that's quite a lot. But what's the chance of happening again? And then immediately flips blood for the blood card, which is 11 mana. Yeah, that'll do it. And I was very much losing that game, but I was kind of old.

01:22:54:05 - 01:23:16:22
Unknown
Now you're that really cool. Actually, yeah. That was funny. I, I came to what might be like. I don't think it's ever been in the vintage cube just because of, like, it's a conspiracy card, but it is a cool one. Yeah. I don't know, but it's like, definitely too powerful, I think. Definitely. Like, give it some time to hang out and see how it plays.

01:23:16:24 - 01:23:42:12
Unknown
It's a really cool card. I never I never read it before I came into hockey. Honestly. Yeah, it's of a conscious decision with mine, like with the like I don't think anything other than an aggro or a mid-range beat down. Jack had won my cube in quite a while, I think in like eight or something like that. So it was definitely consider there's, you know, kind of like power down, power down, aggro power down.

01:23:42:12 - 01:24:00:01
Unknown
Just have like the basically the the pack on pick one Minsk and boo deck how with that down a bit so that maybe yeah like a mid-range deck or control deck or a combo that could pull ahead and yeah kind of like that but it's cube that ice cube that there's always tinkering to do. But yeah, I think it's in a decent place.

01:24:00:03 - 01:24:25:09
Unknown
Yeah. Now I think it looks really good like the because like your deck for example, I feel it's really good but like I'd have been drafting that in the previous iteration. We all the super powerful advanced stuff that would be like, This is cool, I'm going to die before I do any of that stuff. Yeah, exactly And then last weekend we filmed some Commander Content.

01:24:25:15 - 01:24:47:23
Unknown
We did a game of Commander with I guess of the show I would with friend of the show Josh better known as fire truck Modo online and on YouTube and also with wife you can find at the legacy gambit. It's a content household over here. This is our second attempt at doing come on the gameplay. It was really fun.

01:24:47:23 - 01:25:09:10
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Was really good to do. We won't go too much into details because we kind of want you to watch it, but we will put down links to the video integration below. Check it out. Yeah, we really liked doing and hopefully there should be some more coming to the YouTube channel soon. Yeah, no is a ton of fun, so I definitely encourage people to take a look at that to MTG.

01:25:09:12 - 01:25:23:11
Unknown
Yeah, with that I think that's going to do it for today. James, Pleasure as always madam. Thank you very much. Looks good. Nice one. This leads me to thank you all very much out there for listening. If you made it this far, please consider giving the podcast a five star review a thumbs up. Tell a friend all that good stuff.

01:25:23:16 - 01:25:35:22
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Until next time it's good bye from me. It's good bye from James. And we'll see you soon. Goodbye.