Profitable Painter Podcast

Reduce Marketing Costs by Improving Sales Process

Daniel Honan, CPA

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Unlock the secrets to revolutionizing your painting business's marketing strategy without the need for additional spending. Join me, Daniel, a seasoned CPA with a knack for transforming financial strategies, as we dissect how to enhance marketing efficiency through the lens of crucial sales metrics like set rate, show rate, and close rate. This episode promises to arm you with actionable insights that can shift your marketing paradigm, maintaining customer acquisition costs at an ideal one-third of your gross profit. Discover a compelling case study of a painting business owner who streamlined lead follow-up processes and elevated set rates, effectively slashing marketing costs as a percentage of revenue.

We'll also uncover the art of boosting show rates and slashing unnecessary marketing expenditures through strategic improvements in sales. Learn the importance of a robust reminder system and rapid response to new leads to ensure higher appointment adherence and fewer cancellations. By optimizing these key metrics, painting businesses can achieve superior financial efficiency, even when marketing expenses exceed 10% of revenue. This episode is your gateway to mastering your marketing strategy, optimizing sales outcomes, and nurturing a healthy balance between gross profit and customer acquisition costs.

Speaker 1:

This is Daniel. I'm a CPA who works exclusively with painting business owners, helping them know their numbers and save big in tax, and today we're going to talk about how you can lower the cost of marketing without actually spending less in marketing. You should look at in your sales process to actually dial in those key metrics so you can lower the cost of your marketing. So a lot on this podcast we talk about the ratio between your gross profit and your customer acquisition costs. We've had several episodes, but just to do a quick recap, gross profit is what's left over after you pay for direct labor and direct materials, so that's your gross profit margin. The average gross profit margin is around 40 to 45% for painting business owners. Now customer acquisition costs that is, all the costs associated with closing the deal. So this is your marketing costs plus your sales costs. So marketing costs are paying for door-to-door direct mail, facebook ads. Those are your marketing costs. And then your sales costs are paying your salesperson commission for closing deals. We're going to hone in on the marketing costs Now. Marketing costs are usually about half of what your customer acquisition costs, so it's a big component of your customer acquisition costs. And remember, we want to keep customer acquisition costs to about one third of gross profit. So if your gross profit's at 45%, you want to keep your customer acquisition costs at 15% or lower, and that's going to allow you to scale. Now customer acquisition costs half of that is made up of marketing. So we're going to dive into marketing metrics here and I'm sharing my screen for those who are listening, looking at a growth model, and you can see that marketing is around half of the overall customer acquisition cost. So customer acquisition costs typically run somewhere around 15% to 20% of revenue and marketing costs are usually about half of that. So about 7% to 8% or 7% to 9% or 10%. So how can we actually reduce marketing costs without lowering our spend, necessarily? So the way we do that is by improving our sales process. So our marketing dollars do more for us. So there's three metrics that we want to look at in our sales process the set rate, the show rate and the close rate those three metrics. If we dial those in, get those optimal, we can reduce the cost of our marketing because we're doing more with less. So if you improve your sales process, when you look at your profit and loss, your marketing costs as a percentage of revenue should go down.

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So I just met with someone earlier this week and we were taking a look at his profit and loss and his gross profit was great. He was doing about 45% gross profit. And then we looked at his customer acquisition costs and they were pushing over 20%, about 22%, and the thing that was way out of whack was his marketing costs, His sales compensation he's compensating his salesperson about right. It was about 7% or 8%, but his marketing costs were around 15% of revenue and so they were considerably higher, very high, and so the ratio of three to one wasn't working right now. The ratio of gross profit to customer acquisition costs was not there at all. He had more like a two to one ratio, and it was because his marketing costs were so high.

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So what we did? We dove into his sales process to see, okay, why is he spending so much on marketing? Because he was using Facebook ads and Google pay-per-click and a couple other smaller things, but those were the two main ones. And we took a look at his Facebook ads because that was the biggest acquisition channel, and the first thing we looked at was his close rates, like how much, what percentage of the clients he was actually giving an estimate to what percentage was he closing? And he was actually doing a pretty good job with his close rates. He was closing about 30 to 35%, so that's pretty decent.

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The next thing we walked through was his show rates Of the people that schedule an estimate. What percentage actually show up or don't cancel on you? And this was also very good. It was over 90%. So so far, so good.

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Then we looked at his set rates. So when a Facebook ad lead came in, what percentage was he actually scheduling estimate? It turns out his set rate was around 30%. So if 10 leads came in from Facebook, he was only scheduling about three on his estimate calendar. So this was the issue and one of the reasons why his marketing costs were so high Because his set rate was so low for his Facebook ads. He was having to spend a lot more money on Facebook ads to get closed work.

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So we dug a little bit deeper why are his set rates so low? And so I asked him are you doing speed delete? Are you, as soon as those Facebook ads ad leads come in, are you scheduling them or having somebody reach out to schedule that lead on the estimate calendar? And he said that he had someone dedicated to that, but they weren't getting to them right away. It was taking them a little bit of time and also they didn't really have a great script, it turns out, to do that. They weren't pushing hard enough. They would only call once. They wouldn't follow up if they didn't get ahold of them. So basically this was the issue. Their set rates were really bad, really low For Facebook ads, for Facebook ad leads, you should be getting shooting for at least 50% of the bare minimum, but hopefully a little bit higher than that, maybe 60 or 70%.

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So that was the big takeaway for this meeting was hey, really focus in on your set rates, get that person trained up or get a new person that can effectively set appointments, because this is where all your money is going. You're spending a bunch of money on Facebook ads and then those leads are coming in, but then you're not scheduling them on your appointment calendar. Your show rates have been fine. Your close rates are good. So those are. You don't need to change anything you're doing there, just need to focus on your set rates are good. So those are. You don't need to change anything you're doing there, just need to focus on your set rates. So that's kind of an example of how you can improve your marketing costs or lower your marketing costs as a percentage of revenue without actually spending less, because in this situation he keeps spending the same amount. It's just doing more with what he's getting.

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So let's go through some key metrics that you should be looking at your set rates. So if you're running Facebook ads, you should be setting it at a bare minimum 50%, but ideally 60% or higher in most cases. Now if you have website leads like someone fills out a form on your website for those leads you really should be scheduling like 90% or higher, because those are very, very hot leads. These are folks that are on your website trying to reach out to you to get an estimate. So you still need to treat those with speed to lead, getting getting them booked as quick as possible, because they will go to someone else's website if they don't hear from you. But those are very, very hot leads. Or Facebook, you're kind of interrupting their day to tell them about painting. They might not have that top of mind. They might be kind of interested, but not super interested. So those are going to have lower set rates, but not super interested, so those are going to have lower set rates. Then you have other things like a door to door. Again, those are not going to be as high set rates as, like someone going to your website because you're kind of interrupting their day knocking on their door, but you should have somewhere around 50% or maybe even a little bit higher. And then you then you have things like people responding to direct mail. You should either be scheduling them with the QR code that's on your flyer or doing some sort of speed delete so you're booking those people as quick as possible. So those are some just rough numbers to take a look at your set rates.

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Now let's move to show rates. Show rates do they cancel Once you schedule them on a calendar for estimate? Do they cancel with you or do you actually perform the estimate as scheduled? So your show rates should be super high. So your show rate should be super high. You should have some sort of reminder system texting the prospect a day before the morning, before an hour before, reminding them of the appointment, and maybe email and text message and also maybe even throwing in a qualifying call beforehand. But your show rate should be 90% plus. If it's below 90%, you need to take a look at that reminder system to make sure that you're qualifying them and reminding them about the appointment. So that's the show rate.

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Then the last one is close rate. Close rate is what percentage of the prospects that you're visiting and giving that estimate to what percentage of those are you actually closing and getting a deal signed? So close rates typically run somewhere between 25 and 40%. 40% is really great, really awesome. You have a really strong sales process or you're just not charging enough. If you're over 40%, you might not be charging enough because you do want to get a certain amount of nos. If you're getting all the yeses, it might be an indicator that you're not charging enough money. Now, if you're somewhere around 30, 35%, if you're somewhere around 30, 35%, you're you're probably okay with your close rates, not to say you can't improve them, but it's it's decent. Obviously, make sure you're charging enough too, because that's as we've talked about in previous episodes. Not charging enough money is like the number one issue for profitability issues in a painting business, but that's a whole other podcast. So those are some ballpark metrics looking at your set rate, your show rate and your close rate. Those are some targets that you can put into practice.

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Take a look at your numbers compared to those general benchmarks to see if you're on track and if you're significantly off track, maybe your close rate is 10%. Definitely. Look at your sales process there. What are you not doing? Maybe you're not actually presenting on the spot, maybe you're just sending an estimate in email and that's a very weak way to do that, a very weak sales process. So maybe make that process better Present on the spot, have a presentation that you're actually giving to the customer.

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If your show rates are super low, like they're below 90%, maybe, like I said, doing a reminder system, qualifying the person, making sure they're going to show up or not cancel on you, and then the set rates, like we talked about, making sure you're doing a speed to lead, getting those estimates booked as quick as possible as those leads come in, all right. So hopefully this was helpful. If you're looking at your marketing costs as a percentage of revenue and it's higher than what you were shooting for, maybe it's over 10%. Marketing is over 10% of revenue. Instead of just spending less on revenue, try looking at your sales metrics, your set rate, your show rate and your close rate and seeing where you can improve it to actually lower your marketing costs as a percentage of revenue. With that, I'll see you next week.

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