Understanding Life Between Lives: A Talk With Beth Beyer

In this episode, we talk with Beth Beyer, a recent graduate of the Michael Newton Institute's Life Between Lives program. We discuss Beth's extensive journey in hypnotherapy, her studies under acclaimed coach DeAnna Torres, and the significant milestones she achieved. 

Beth shares her insights on the evolution of consciousness, the process of life between lives regressions, and her experiences guiding individuals through their spiritual journeys. 

Additionally, they delve into Dr. Michael Newton's pioneering work, personal anecdotes about past life and inter-dimensional regressions, and the profound impact these experiences have on clients. 

Transcript

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I am excited about today and I get to talk to a really neat person. Beth Byer. Welcome, Beth. Thank you, Jim. I'm so glad to be here. Oh my gosh. it's really fun to hang out with you, even though I'm on the East Coast and you are in Reno, Nevada, and how nice that we have the technology to help us Exactly this. Yeah. Really, really great. I know that I have been wanting to have you back to talk about things and and there's so many things we can talk about, but the thing I wanted to pin you down to today is to talk about the the fact that you have completed your work at the school of the Michael Newton Institute for your life between lives and I mean, it wasn't that long ago that you finished, right? Yes, exactly that. It's amazing and I'm so relieved. The program was a tough program and mm-hmm. Very happy to have completed it. Most good things are hard you finished up your Michael New, it was hard work how long did it take you? The, the program officially started? Yes. In June of last year, and then it was up to us to complete a final session, have it reviewed by a reviewer in addition to our coach, and have that all submitted to the institute itself. So that was the, the final step. were you pretty confident when you submitted that session that you hit the home run or what? You know, I had the most amazing coach in the world. She was like, fabulous. And so I figured if she said okay, it was definitely gonna sail through. Now, your coach is, a pretty significant person in, in her own right? Absolutely. Deanna Torres, she's out of Fair Oaks, California, and she's been doing this kind of work since maybe over 15 years. And Oh, wow. She's also worked specifically as a reviewer. For the Michael Newton Institute for either 10 or 11 years, so she knows exactly which t's to cross an i's to.to make sure mm-hmm. That whatever is submitted is the best and most correct. The, the program has shifted a little bit this year because of the changes. In consciousness of the planet. Wow. Which is kind of interesting. Wow, that is very interesting, isn't it? And so this year they're, they're calling it life between lives and beyond. So our coaches were lab coaches, life and beyond. LAB. Oh yeah. That isn't that neat. Wow. I mean, you hear about it in the literature and people talking, but the concept that this group actually changed their program mm-hmm. Based on consciousness changing, is that Exactly, yes. And much due to the influence of Peter Smith from Australia, who currently runs the. Quantum Consciousness Institute and also is still involved with the Michael Newton Institute, where he was director for, I don't know, 10 or 11 years. And he was very active in our educational program as well, as well as the world conference that was held in November of 2024 in Barcelona. What a thrill. And you were there in person? Yes. Yes. Oh, and we had a masquerade party. Oh, Jim, you should have been there. And it was it, the theme was come as you were. Oh, that is so funny. Oh my gosh. Right? Yeah. one of those metaphysical jokes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Nope. we're talking about the Michael Newton Institute, and I wanna just tell a little bit, I, I took some notes on Dr. Michael Newton and I just wanna read from them a little bit.'cause if someone doesn't know who Dr. Michael Newton is, then it doesn't really, I. Do much for them As to what, what's this all about? Dr. Newton he passed away now, but he had a doctorate in counseling psychology. He was a certified master hypnotherapist, a practicing psychologist, and he also was on the faculty of higher education institutions. And so. He was a guy that, was absolutely very well credentialed, very smart man, and skeptical about metaphysics. he really wasn't biting on what was kind of the flavor of the day there in the fifties and sixties. There was a lot of trendy stuff going on about looking at past lives. And he wasn't, biting on it. And so then. According to his, the literature here that in the late sixties he was treating a client for psychosomatic pain of the shoulder. And and he was using traditional hypnotherapy. And in a deep trance state Dr. Newton says, well go back to the source of your pain. And the, the person then reported that they. Were injured in World War I when they were bayonetted in a trench. And during a certain battle. So Dr. Newton helped the person get healed from this, and they walked out of the session with without this pain. So now for me, I. I don't know. I think I would say hallelujah. I, I did something that I didn't think I could do. I cured this person, whatever, but Dr. Newton wasn't like that. He checked things out and tell us what, what, what did he do next? You know, skeptic, agnostic would have been his flavors of his day and right when he went to. Research this because he was definitely a researcher. He decided that he was going to go back and confirm the details. What color is your uniform? What's your name? What's your rank? What's your serial number? What, what? All of the details. And he took all of that information, all of those details. Contacted the war office in London, found the exact person that died. In the trench of a bayonet wound. So who knew? But apparently he proved it up to himself and of course, the world. Yes. So, yeah, it's kind of amazing. He, he stepped back and went, huh. How amazing is that? Right. And as a researcher type person and a scientist, that, that wasn't the end of the inquiry. Right. Right. I mean, he, he, he's now saying. Hmm. Well if that's true then, and then he ended up getting a further bit by that bug when he was doing a regression. And the person, when he said, go back to the source of the pain, they went back to in between their lives like that. The first example was a person went to their past life where they were injured in the war. This person went in between their lives and talked to their soul group and was reassured by them and came away from this session being very reassured and and now lost their depression that they were suffering from. And so. If he was slightly bitten before, I would imagine that now he was fully, absolutely, fully in, with both feet. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. And so then you know, as a, as a researcher person, you don't just go and say. To the world, I think I might have found something that might be important. That's not the way they work. Mm-hmm. Right. they nail it down every which way and before they're gonna mention a word to anybody. Exactly. And, and I, and that's what he did. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, he, he did quite a bit of research. Are you familiar with how, how much he, he, he worked on it well, with specifics. He didn't wanna let any of his psychology buddies know until he was sure. And then when he came out with it, they were like, well, why didn't you tell us this earlier? But yes, he did. He saw 7,000 patients over the course of his lifetime, and essentially he could be credited with mapping the spirit world. Okay, let me just step back there for a second. 7,000 patients. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I, I mean, 7,700 is a ton. Right. You know, but 7,000. Yeah. And, and I can see where. He could be able to then after listening to 7,000 people tell about their life in between lives, from all the combination of all those people he could take. What happens to the minute, did I what? What happens then? Right. And that's what he did. Right? When you say he mapped it. Right, right. Exactly that, yes. And it's amazing. Mm-hmm. he developed his own technique, I think. Mm-hmm. For age regression techniques. And is that what you learned in the institute? Yes. That as well as some, I guess you would sort of call it because of. Consciousness moving forward from where it had been in his earlier practice. There are some new techniques that were additionally added to our student group, our cohort, when we went through the program to make us more flexible and versatile in our approach. Okay. Now to, let's talk about you a little bit. The, when did you first get interested in past life regressions? Take it back to that. One of the big areas for me was just perhaps always being curious about. What happens after we die? Yep. I can remember my grandmother died when I was 11 and it was like, wow. That's interesting. I mean, I know that sounds like an odd response, but it was. Mm-hmm. It was interesting. Right, so one of the big pushes came when I read Dolores Cannons Between. Death and life. Right. And that was an amazing book because Dolores, similar timeframe to Dr. Newton created somewhat of a similar protocol for having clients reach that state of, in her language, her label, the subconscious. So, okay. Yeah. to me, it's just a fascinating area because the other thing that is fascinating as a learning as a psychiatric nurse. You and I are talking and we think our thoughts are everything, but they're about 5% of the a hundred percent. So 95% is our subconscious, unconscious, collective conscious. All of those other pieces of consciousness that are part of each of us that we don't always credit or don't always recognize, notice, feel, become aware of until we really are setting ourselves on a. Spiritual journey, and once you're there, it's like, oh man, I, I, can I run faster? What else could I learn? Right. Yeah. It's so interesting. Right, there's a podcast about people with autism mm-hmm. And the fact that they can telepathy It's telepathy. Yes. Yes. The telepathy tapes. Mm-hmm. That they can, yeah. They can know, know what other people are thinking. Yes. And, and well, so that, that made me think about when you said, we're only using, you know, a certain percentage. It's like that's in there. Mm-hmm. Right, right. These, these aren't, these aren't weird people. The autistic people, they're, they're just people that have a different condition and that allows them to take advantage of that. Intensely focus on whatever they're focused on the neurodivergent group are fascinating. And yes, that is part of quote, the new group that are coming into the planet. As consciousness is raised, things like telepathy, which, we consider it mind reading, but it's more like we become on the same frequency and as a result, share the same knowledge. I. Okay. Yeah. Oh, Fascinating. And then I had a interview with a fellow who did the remote viewing. Mm. And that's another aspect of the subconscious, right. As what he, he referred to subconscious. Mm-hmm. And the abilities that, that has un unbelievable. So yeah, really, really interesting. And so you read a book about it. Right. Yeah. Right. And then, and then jumped in right then. Jumped in. Yeah. But you are a person that you had just casually mentioned psychiatric nurse. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's, that's a lot of study and learning and education to get there. And you did work in that, that field for a period of time, I think. Yeah, absolutely. Did you? Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. So you have firsthand experience of that. Sure. And so you then. Kind of piggybacked on that, I guess, to did you study hypnotherapy? Yes. In back in the day. Which, oh, that day. In that day. Psychiatric nursing in, in the time when I went through the program at University of Maryland Graduate school. Hospice was novel. It was a new thing, so, right. Okay. It's been a few decades. Right. And yes, having patients get out of pain by guided imagery, which is essentially, taking folks into alpha brainwaves and having them sort of be very conscious of a beautiful place or space that is very much central to hypnotherapy. Okay. So lots of overlap there. Yeah. Okay. And so then you learned about hypnotherapy and then you started taking people on past life regressions. I think we, we did. Yes. The Quantum healing Hypnosis Technique, Doris Cannon's technique was yes. One of the first that I learned. I also did trauma relief and that kind of thing, hypnotherapy through a medical credentialing. Kind of entity. Okay. So for continuing education units for nursing. Okay. And Dolores's work has got a hundred thousand practitioners over the world that do QHHT. Michael Newton Institute has arousing 200. Oh my goodness. Right? Oh, what a difference in numbers. But yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. to me, when I think about you as a person, you have. Gotten this credentials. You've got the QHHT, I think certification. Mm-hmm. Right. And, and you are very well versed in doing this work. Mm-hmm. And then you as a person again, decided I'm going to learn more. I. That seems to be your nature. You know, it's hard to get it all done in one lifetime, but I'm working on it, Jim. Yeah, you are. You are not quitting it's like I got you learning more and more. And so, so then you decided to go into the, the studies and, and now are you able to ballpark how many past life regressions you have done with your patients? I mean, just estimate. I, you know, I would say hundreds, but I, I don't have an actual number. Okay. No. That, that, that, that's what I was looking for. Yeah. Yeah. Hundreds, I mean. Mm-hmm. And that's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot. Mm-hmm. Tell me, what was the process for your studies in Michael Newton Institute? Because I think people that are involved with this world are very interested to know what's it like to go through that program? The program itself is depending upon how you want to talk about it, but six to nine months. So you get six months of actual, didactic learning, sort of academic overview of hypnosis, hypnotherapy, the practicality of dealing with people with trauma. Mm-hmm. For example, in the insti instance that you spoke about with Dr. Newton. Having healing come about because of going back to a past life, right. Is a fairly regular occurrence. Okay? So our souls tend to carry forward. At times, either themes that we're working on emotional and sometimes even physical kinds of issues from life to life. Okay. So sometimes those things need to be addressed. So part of the education dealt with that. In particular, probably the biggest piece is the coaching that is done with the institute. Under the auspices of the institute. So my coach, Deanna Torres, is a mm-hmm. Magnificent hypnotherapist, working out of Fair Oaks, California, and, okay. She is phenomenal. She's, she's worked in this area for over 15 years and specifically been a reviewer for Michael Newton Institute. Cases that come in for certification, so, oh, okay. That's how she knows exactly, yes. What I needed to do to make sure that my work was up to snuff. So crossing the T's and dotting the i's and there's, there's a number of things. Clients may or may not notice certain things, but as hypnotherapist, we know what. Exactly needs to be done and where a client is and what is the next step. So not every session is the A plus. Sometimes there are B minus, you know, from, from like, you know, you do your best. You can some people who are very. Self-conscious or left brain conscious or just don't trust themselves, have more difficulty relaxing, and there's a number of different toolkits that are available to me to go, okay, well that didn't exactly work. Let's try this. Plan B. Okay. So a lot of those pieces come into play when you wanna be able to appeal as a hypnotherapist to a wide variety of clients to be able Absolutely. Whether a person is incredibly spiritual and, meditates every day and talks to their guides and their angels, or, well, I'm not really sure about this. Is this okay? I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna do it right and la la la. Right. So those are the two ends of the spectrum, perhaps of, of folks who come into my office, but generally, mm-hmm. Most of'em have some kind of spiritual background and an interest in learning more about themselves and consciousness. Often asking questions like, what's my next chapter? Okay. That kind of thing is, is very, so, yeah, very frequent. So let me ask this. So yeah, when, when people come in to work with you, they're not all coming in because of they want to get rid of a trauma then Not necessarily. No. Often it's more seeking more information, more learning about themselves. Right. Yeah. Right, right. And but in the people with trauma, I just, just to take a second for that I, I think it's so interesting that. You are able to use a variety of techniques. Because I know when I had my first past life regression that I was very nervous about it because I'm like, can I do it? Can I do it right? And I had heard before the question of, look at your feet, you know, and to see what shoes you're wearing and things like that. And I'm like, oh, that's just not, this is not working for me. But luckily the person I was working with had a few different approaches and we got there Uhhuh and, and what a wonderful thing for me to be actually have these knowings. Come into my mind and not a couple of visual pictures, but some knowings and this is from somebody that never had, I had never had that experience before. Sure. And, and I. Wanted to experience it. So if I'm on the podcast and I'm talking about it, it's not like, oh, so and so said this is true. I wanted to say, well, is it or isn't it? Right? And And it is. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it is. And now since then, I've had several more past life regressions and. Different people's techniques are more effective or less effective for me. Sure. And, and I think that's just the way it goes. Right. it's not one size fits all. Right. Exactly that. Yeah. Every client comes with their own unique issues, their own questions. Right. That's normally what I ask is to. Develop five to seven questions that you wanna know about yourself. Okay. My role is just to ask open-ended questions. Is it this, is it this? What do you think about that? Or how can you what are you experiencing? Tell me more. All of those open-ended questions essentially are the path to have the client have the best experience possible. I think that's so neat. Now tell me about you're guiding people to their life between lives. Mm-hmm. Is, is there, is there something that most stands out in your mind as to what people find very stunning and that they take away from it? Well, in listening to my clients. After their sessions. Right? Right. And sometimes a week later, or three or a month later going, that was so amazing. I had no idea, blah, blah, blah. Right? I'm like, yeah, isn't that cool? Yeah. Some people leave my office like deer in the headlights. Like, what just happened? Right. cause they, they thought, oh, I've read about it, but I didn't think I. Had that issue or I could do that, whatever that means, right? So, many people come away just amazed at. The past lives that come up for the most part, I, I, I would have to say that the past lives are just a bridge. It's great and it's important. And the, the way that we get to the spirit world is by going to a past life. So those are typically thematically related to the person's current life, for example? Yes. I, I had a client the other day who was has had a, a lot of issues with self-isolation, feeling very different, never feeling like she fit in with her family, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Mm-hmm. And for those folks, once they go to quote a past life, I'm never shocked when it turns out to be on a different planet, so, oh. Okay. That's, you're not from around here, honey. Okay. Anyway. Right. Right. But one of the cases that I had recently was also very interesting because she was on planet Earth, but knew that she wasn't human and was interacting with humans, but couldn't be seen by humans. And I'm like, oh, we have other species on the planet. Yes, we do. That are not necessarily within our normal range of vision. So however you wanna call those stories too. Woowoo too far out. Okay, fine. Delightful yet. For certain clients, those are so important to give them a feeling of comfort, understanding, and knowing about themselves. You don't have to believe in past lives. It's not required. You don't have to believe in alien lives. Okay, fine. Whatever yet. Isn't it amazing? And it isn't a miracle that our guides, our higher self or whoever's telling the story the client is, is providing exactly the kind of information that brings solace, that brings truly a sense of peace. So for me, that's the fundamental bottom line. If the client walks out and they feel quote better as a result of what they have learned about themselves, great. You know, job done Awesome. Nicely. Yes. You know? Yes. And my role is just being a, a cheerleader for my clients. I'm like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's find out about you. What, what, what should we find out? It's gonna be amazing and interesting so that, well, I think that the attitude that you have and this, and the energy that you bring to it, Beth, is something that not everybody has and, and not every practitioner has. And how nice for those people to feel like. If Beth says, I can do it, if Beth says, just let's just go have fun. Yeah, well then I'll do that. Yeah. I don't think there are that many people that are gonna just say, well, I'll just go into a different world and it's no worry or concern to me. We're all gonna be a little bit like, ah, what's this? Right? What's gonna happen? Nobody ever comes to my office to lie. To tell themselves any fabrication they come in because they wanna know. And my role isn't to tell them, it's to ask, so where are you now? What, what do you notice? What do you notice about the other beings who are near you? What are their facial features? Their facial structure? Like what kind of clothing are they wearing? Or if any, clothing, I mean, you know, because right, different cultures are very different space suits or, or tech suits or whatever they are, it's like, Ooh, that's very cool. Let's do that. I don't know. I mean, I, I really find it so interesting and so helpful in the long run for folks. That's why I do it. I mean, really, it, it's my sort of give back my role to, to help in my small little way help humanity grow. I. I don't think it's a small little way at all because the message that I keep getting from my studies on this spiritual path is that if I meditate today, I'm helping the collective consciousness. Very true. And so if someone comes to you and has a, a release of. Concern or problems or that sort of thing. What a great benefit to collective consciousness that is. Exactly. And once we get a client into theta, you know, when they're in that quantum realm, anything is possible, all bets are off. Whatever that is right, is they have infinite possibility because as Peter Smith would say. We are magnificent beings and we often do not know our extent of our magnificence and I think a lot of people walk around and, and they are a little downtrodden and don't feel worthy or don't feel that they merit. Goodness, and it's just not true. People do. Yeah. I mean everyone does, whether we believe from the biblical standpoint created in the image of God Okay, fine. Or created in the image of consciousness itself. Yep, that's true. So here we are and we really should be kinder to each other, a little more compassionate. Right? Yeah. I don't think our American society anyway is one that promotes. Individual confidence in themselves. Hmm. I, I think it's, it's just the nature of today's society that we see thin. Beautiful people doing things, you know? And it's like, well, that ain't me. And yeah. So, but, but it's like to feel good about yourself, whoever you are. I mean, what a, what a beautiful thing that is. And how nice for you Now, I, I would just get, I just keeps going through my mind about. About when you're talking to someone who maybe is recognizing that they're not from this planet. Mm-hmm. I mean, when the first time that happened when you're dealing with someone. I mean between you and me.'cause no one else is gonna listen to this. I mean, was it, did it freak me out actually, Jim? Yeah. Did it freak you out? Are you kidding me? I have like lived and grew up with Spock and Kirk as my uncles. Sci-Fi was my middle name. See? Right. I can, I can do that. Like, you know, Vulcan hand sign with the best of'em. Absolutely. So you're the perfect person then to not be freaked out by that. Exactly. And, well,'cause I know an awful lot of people that would be like, what the heck was that? I didn't look like anything I know. Or whatever. And I had a chance to interview some people that saw UFOs and a fellow who was abducted by, up to the, studied in the UFO and certainly freaked out by it. Which, you know, you, you're a human being and you're. Recognizing that something happened that is beyond, anyone's normal experience. Yeah, I hear you. And the flip side of that coin is we normally, I don't know how you, in new age language, we would say we're on the same vibe. You and I are both human generally speaking, or at least from what we know of each other at this. Okay. You're on the East coast, well. Okay. Sorry. West Coast here? Yeah. Alright. We could joke about that. Or I'll, I'll just say that if you have someone who is not of the same frequency Yeah. That's going to like shake you to your boots. It's really very disconcerting because we have such fear of things that are beyond our own knowledge base understanding. And when you allow those edges or those gates to sort of open up a bit. You can feel more comfortable with how people move through the world or how others who may not be of this planet move through the world. Right? Often my clients who are not or they, they determine or figure out that they're not from around here, so to speak. It gives them great relief because they're like, oh, yes, I knew it. Yeah, I knew it. You know, I'm like, okay, I'm so glad you knew it. That's awesome. Right. You know? Right. Have you ever felt at home here? Never felt at home. Always felt That's right. As an outsider. Exactly. And it gives them really a, a better understanding of their backstory and why they have such deep seated feelings of. Not understanding why people are not nice to each other, because the other alien cultures that I've dealt with are truly much more loving and kind, compassionate, and live in a completely different understanding of how to treat each other, so that mm-hmm. I have heard of people. Lording that they were perhaps sent to earth from another planet to try to spread that love and understanding. I wouldn't say sent, I would say they heard the call and then they chose, okay. Yeah. Right. It's, it's free will, free choice. They chose to show up and trust me. They're like, why the frick did I pick this planet? But they did. It's all up to each person and they showed up. Okay. That's right. That's right. Scent is really not the right word. It's because all of these beings were in a life between lives and they chose whether they're from another planet or planet, another dimension, planet Earth or whatever, another dimension, there's, they're selecting where they're going next. Although technically, if you really wanna look at the quantum of it, right, it's all nail time. So we could get into that, but honestly it's kind of mind bending, so, yeah. it is mind bending. And so I've tried to stay away from it here because it it it's a little much for most all. Yeah. So yeah, I hear you. Well, Beth, I, I am really enjoying this talk about. But it's so, so fascinating to me. And, and we could keep talking about this for some time, but I'm out of time on this particular episode and I wanted to take the fact that you finished up this life between lives study and, and go into that because you have so many different. Things that you could talk about. So let's go into that aspect of things in our next episode. Is that okay with you? Sounds perfect, Jim. Thank you so much. Okay, let's do it. All right. Great. Let's do it. Okay. Alright. Talk to you later. Yeah. Okay. Bye.