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A Journey with Archangels: Smita Garg's Transformation Story

James LaPann Season 4 Episode 8

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In this episode, the discussion centers on Smita Garg's profound spiritual experiences referred to as a Kundalini event. She shares her interactions with three archangels, Archangel Michael, Rafael, and Gabriel.  

Smita recounts how these experiences provided guidance on her life's purpose.  She also shares a transformative experience at the Santa Clara Chapel and a significant encounter with a mysterious man  during a silent meditation retreat that solidified her path towards hypnotherapy. 

The conversation sheds light on the unique energies and messages of the archangels and the personal revelations Smita received.  


james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

This is the start of the second in a series of episodes that have to do with connection with the divine and with I. How we can open up to, that guidance from, above. And in our last episode, we were talking about the year 2014, our guest, Smid Arg was having kind of an extended what I would call a Kundalini event. We'll have another episode on exactly what that is to explain that, but. In this case this Kundalini event was going on, and during that time Smitta connected up with three archangels. And I'll just ask you to take us back there

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Right,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

to, to that, that, to that time and place.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

right. As I had mentioned in the previous episode that, I had two consecutive nights where one night, the archangels, I was able to see them and see their distinct aspects and become familiar with them, but it just felt like I already knew them and I didn't know how. I didn't know how.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

And then the next night is when, this was always, these episodes were happening at what is called that auspicious time of the night when it's already about two 3:00 AM in the morning. So in a half asleep, half a awake state. So the second night is when I received really important guidance about my purpose. And

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

until that point, I had been sort of lost. I had been wondering what am I here to do? Life is passing by. I've got to do something, I'm here to do something important. I never doubted it, but what was it that I was supposed to do was a big question.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

And I'm sure that at that point in time, I think you said you were in your forties

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

And you were eager to get going. If I'm supposed to do something, well what is it? And let's get on with it.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Exactly. So they, they helped me see that I needed to help people with their grief, which is something I had been doing anyway as a friend. But now perhaps I needed to do as a professional, as a therapist.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

I.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

This was a whole new revolution. I mean, I had always considered the pathway of art therapy before I went into arts education because I was working with children with disabilities. I was helping them through and I had considered going into art therapy, but I didn't know at this point. When they literally threw in this idea that I could go into hypnotherapy, which I had been using for myself to help recover from my grief. And if, if folks can go back to our first two interviews, Jim where I talk quite a bit about the grief that I experienced.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

lifetime. So it just felt like it was that whatever techniques I had used to overcome my own grief, I was supposed to use those techniques to help others.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

And of course they didn't decide it for me. They left it up to me. And I think that is something people don't realize. That when the guidance comes through, what we feel inside is very important. And so I wasn't sure at that point, okay. I've spent,, over like 10, 15 years of my life becoming an arts educator, researcher, all of that, an academic. And so I. Should I go the art therapy way? Because that would be a more natural way for me, a more natural pathway since I already have a foundation in the arts.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

and, but then my more personal experience of recovery has been with hypnotherapy and, and what I've learned from Dr. Brian Wise and his tapes. So. I was torn. I was torn. And so they left this question up to me. So I spent the next one year mulling over what path to take because I knew that this decision would be off of very high importance. This would determine the rest of my life, literally.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

those paths are quite divergent.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Either gonna be on one or the

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Or the other. Exactly. that's how I felt at that point, that, I'm at this fork and I have to choose one or the other. I send a message out to the universe. And I said, okay, you've gotta help me. You've gotta help me. But before I go there, I do wanna mention that just a few days after these two meetings with the archangels happened, I was guided to go to the Santa Clara Chapel, and at this point I'm starting to listen to that inner voice a little bit more.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

I hear that you know, you need to go to the Santa Clara Chapel. And interestingly there was an opportunity that sort of opened up, which, someone was going in that direction. They said, I can give you a ride if you wanna go visit the chapel. I said, sure, I'm coming along. And so I ended up at the chapel. I was the only one that day in the chapel. And I started to meditate. It was beautiful to just be there. the beauty of that chapel is that it's actually dedicated to St. Clair who had done extensive work with St. Francis,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

who I had already felt connected to as. A young child. So in this chapel, I remember as I was meditating, I, I was feeling this deep restlessness again inside of me, and suddenly I felt this bright light fall on my face. Now my eyes were closed, but this voice said, you can open your eyes. And when I opened my eyes. Indeed, there was this huge orb of light right in front of me. Well, it wasn't up close, but it was at a distance, but it was there. And I said, wait, what is that? Is that the sun shining through the window? But I was feeling the sun back here, so I turned around to look through this other window and the sun was there. So obviously what I was seeing was not the sun. And again, I heard that. If you wanna be certain, if you still want, confirmation, you can take a picture of me, and I did So I realized that the Divine was really giving me validation. In this

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

world that the connection was there, it had been established. I was able to take a picture of that huge, beautiful orb and for years, even now when I want to ever, have even ta bit doubt, I go back and look at that picture.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Now let me just stop it and I'm, I'm just trying to imagine you're in this beautiful mission and it's quiet and there's no one there and you're having a peaceful moment and you're meditating and then. All of a sudden out of the blue comes this huge orb.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yeah.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

And I mean, I'm thinking the day after that. You're thinking to yourself, I was at the, the mission and this state

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yeah. Yeah,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

I mean, it just must have been you, trying to think of how you would process that

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

you are. Right,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

your mind.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

right?

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

You know, because we're humans and we have to process these things, we have thoughts and, you have to, that thing that happened that was so far of, the dorm. I mean, it's, it must have been incredible for you.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

It, it really was. And actually as these events were happening, meeting with the archangels and then physically.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Being able to see this orb. I started to also get downloads and that was the first time. It was the sense of, wow, this is a download coming through. Because I had had all these questions since I was a child about what is this universe? Why are we born on earth? What do we come here to do? What's the whole point of this exercise of coming here to earth and having these experiences and suddenly. There was such a flow of incredible responses to all my questions that I had to stop and start writing, and as I was writing, pretty much like what you described, Jim, you know when, when these days you have to do the intro and the outro, it just sort of flows through. The information started to flow through and it was literally like there was someone inside that was talking to me

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

yes,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

a flow and saying that this is what it is. I knew that there was a huge change happening

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

in me. And it was at a really deep level, and it was something I could not control.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

let me ask you, because I'm always intrigued about how you as a human being, you as a person. it must have been wonderful thought to be. I. Connecting with the eternal

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Mm-hmm.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

is what, what I think, the way I think of it, you're connecting with the eternal and you're having this close connection.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

right.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

I mean, the thought to me of how wonderful that must have been thinking I'm connecting with the eternal and right here and now.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

in, in a, in a body. It was wild.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

was, it was wild. I have to say that there was a little bit of like, am I, am I going crazy? Is this what madness looks like

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

or is

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

course. Of course.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

this really happening? So I was in that state, but the thing is, whatever was happening was not in my control. I had to just.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Flow with it. And that was the hard part. Because I had my regular life as a mother, as a community volunteer, I had all that going on. I was running an, a really important program for a school district. I had to make sure that I was present, fully present for that program.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

had all that going on, and then I had all this going on. It was just. A crazy time, but.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Well, I admire you so much, Smitta, that you did this and, you persevered and you went through it, and you, continue to move forward and it's really admirable and wonderful and it's so great to hear about it. Thank you for sharing that real life human feeling of having this wonderful connection. And then. that connection, took a pause to be you back into human life what, yeah. What it, what it meant

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes, that was my first, that was my first experience of having one foot on the earth and one foot off the earth

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

yes,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

sure.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

I just wanna jump in is that I interviewed somebody that had a near death experience, and they went to the other side

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Right,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

they came back. And when they came back it was, I have one foot there still

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

right.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

and I have one foot here on this earth. And a huge change in

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

their life.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

I'm sure that it must have been the same for you. Your life must have. Really, I mean, other than the fact you had all these obligations you had to do,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Right.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

mean, other than that, it must have been a huge moment and change for you,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

It really was because everything else that I had experienced, well, I had had a few experiences which were not in my control. Like when my daughter was fighting for her life, I really had to. Turn to the divine, I had to turn to God. I had to literally put my complete trust in the divine and accept whatever outcome. And that was very, very hard. But this was something else altogether. This was something inside of me that was unraveling and there was nothing I could do to control it. I just had to allow for it to show up fully to me so I could see what this was and where it was taking me. I didn't even know where it was taking me, but I was left with this idea that there's something happening here, which is really important and I need to pay attention to the messages coming through. I. I took the advice of the archangels very seriously and spent the next year exploring both paths, the art therapy path and the path of hypnotherapy. I realized, again, the guidance was so beautiful because now I was paying more attention to it and the guidance said. Check the excitement you feel in your body when you think art therapy, when you think past life regression therapy or hypnotherapy, what brings greater excitement? Because you are at that point in your life when your excitement is what's going to push you through and it's gonna push you forward. So. I focused on my excitement for both paths, and I'm going to say that both paths are incredible paths, I was personally guided to the path of hypnotherapy but I still needed more convincing because God, I'm so stubborn and, and that's when. That wonderful meeting with Krishna happened. You know, sequence is again something that helps a human mind understand things better. But yeah, I really wanted to share the context and the background of how all this happened

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

tell about Krishna, please.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

oh, that is just such a beautiful moment to reminisce and, go back to, so I was in the state where I. Had picked hypnotherapy, sort of, and I had started to help somebody, not with hypnotherapy, but with just sending reiki healing and, and just helping them with my own energetic healing that I discovered I could do that. So

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Mm-hmm.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

I decided that I was gonna do this four day silent. Meditation retreat, which, which required me to go into silence and meditate for like 12, 13 hours every day.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

That's a serious

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

it's a pretty serious endeavor. Now one of my really important teachers an Indian guru, he was going to visit. The Bay Area and he was going to lead the silence meditation retreat.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Oh

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yeah, so I had some guidance for the retreat, which is something I felt like I could use. Not realizing that 800 people would sign up for it. So I go to this retreat, I sign up for it, and I kind of sign up last minute. So I find a spot right at the back. I'm sitting in the back and this is the first day. We haven't quite gone into silence yet. We are doing some processes before we move into silence. one of the processes that we did was we had to find a partner and exchange. Some good qualities with them as in share with them some good qualities that we believe we have. And there's very few people who are gonna look at themselves and say, Hey, I'm good at this. Or good at that. It's something that's hard to do, but,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

but you know, the whole point is to overcome your ego and share what you really, really think is reflects your beauty. For some reason, I walked up front looking for a partner, and I couldn't find anybody. Not one person. Everybody already had a partner and everybody had already started the process. And I was thinking, wow, I'm losing time here. We are on limited time for this process, so let me quickly see if there's someone else. So I'm standing in this aisle and then suddenly I see another person also looking around for a partner. And then we look at each other and we are like, oh, let's just sit down here in the middle of the

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

and let's be partners for this activity. So. We sat down and I started to share things with him. Well, basically he told me to go first, so I started to share things and, and then I shared quite a bit about this personal journey that I've been on. And I said, I've been sending healing to this girl. And she's really shown some. Wonderful recovery from whatever she's suffering from. And it gives me a lot of sort of courage and, but then also satisfaction to see that I can help somebody like that. and then I said that, now I'm thinking about should I, should I go to Dr. Brian Weiss for this training And learn hypnotherapy as I've been guided to. But I'm still thinking, wow, is that really something I should do? After being an academic and there's something about this person, which is out of this world, he has the most charming smile. He has twinkling eyes and I can't help but think that he reminds me of the Indian God, Krishna, because Krishna is known for his twinkling, mischievous eyes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

known for his charm I've grown up knowing him as this, wonderful friend that you can have, who. Going to guide you and help you and support you. If you have a conversation, you'll get a good piece of advice from this. God. So there's something about this person that I can't, I can't figure out. He just seems out of this world. So I'm talking to him and then he starts talking to me and he, and then he looks at me and he says. I think you should really do what you've been thinking of doing. I said, you mean I should go to Dr. Brian Weiss's training? And he looked at me and said, I really think you should do that. and then I heard time is up and I said, I'm so sorry you, you never got a chance to share.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

He said, it's okay. No worries. Then we both got up because it was time to go back to where we were sitting. And then I started to walk to the back of the room where I was where my things were and my chair was,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yeah.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

and then I also started to see him walk towards the back of the room. But, you know, I found my chair, I sat down and I figured that, okay, he's, he's in this. Course and this program, and I'm sure I'll have other occasions to see him. And then we moved on to the activity, not knowing that that activity needed to be done with the same partner. And now I'm looking for him. I'm looking and I'm looking and I'm looking and he's not there. And I never found him ever. I went to the teachers, I went to the teachers of the program and I said, do you know a person that looks like this? And do you know he's in the program and no one knew anything about this person?

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Oh wow. Wow.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

So when I look back, I feel like

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

just disappeared.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

just disappeared.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

you were there, you had a good conversation

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

and then he just went faded away, kind

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Just faded away.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

in front of your eyes, but

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yeah. And you know, over the years, Jim I've had many occasions to hang out with folks in the Bay Area who do these retreats and, I have never seen him. I mean, it's been almost 10 years. I have never seen this person ever again.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

In a way, it's a small world. Right. I. That many of the same people that are interested in this seminar or retreat, are gonna be interested in another

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes, exactly.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

it would be natural to, to at least just see him

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

True. And I, I do remember that one of the things he told me when we were introducing ourselves to each other, he said, is I'm a teacher. and Krishna is one of the greatest teachers we know of.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay. Okay,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

His famous discourse in the bag with Gita was even read by Einstein. And

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

a lot of scientists read it because of how it helps you focus on what is your dharmic path. and so it was, I consider it very fortuitous to have met him. And he showed me, he showed me my Dharmic box. He told me to go in the direction I needed to go,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

I'm so grateful for the divine to have stepped into my life in so many different shapes and forms to guide me. But I realized that I needed to be open to that guidance. I could have said, you know, when he looked at me and said, okay, go, do this training with Dr. Weiss. I could have said, well, I'm not so sure. It's a lot of money. It's a big trip, going all the way to Omega Institute, upstate New York. I don't know. I could have had a hundred million questions and I did, but. That the way he looked at me, it was like he was sending a very clear message and I took it as a message I needed to follow, so

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Well, you weren't a kid. you had met a lot of people. You had done a lot of things. And I think all of us, all of us, when we're talking to people, we're evaluating who we're talking to, what's up with this person? Are they somebody that is gonna be listening to what I'm saying or is is going to be, giving me some honest feedback or not. And it sounds to me like you connected up with Krishna solidly

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

very short time.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes. If I look at this person as, because that's what he was, he was a virtual stranger, I. He only shared his first name with me. He never, I never really found out where he worked, where he lived. None of that happened,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Right,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

but somehow I was able to bear my heart to him and say, I've been wanting to, I've been feeling like this is what I'm meant to do, but I'm still unsure. And he just looked at me and said. This is what you need to do. And that was my intention when I had joined the retreat to find that answer in my silence. But I received the answer even before I went into silence. and then of course the next three days I was looking like crazy for him all over and he was not found.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

what an incredible experience and I really appreciate you sharing it. with us. We have a, couple of minutes left before we finish up this episode and I wanted to ask you something that came to my mind but I didn't wanna stop and talk about it at that time. And that is you,. Have had in your Kundalini event, you met with the three archangels

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Right.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

what, what three were they?

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

They were Archangel Michael, Rafael, and Gabriel.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay. And I think you had mentioned that you could tell that they were different because they

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

personalities. Did you say that? Is that

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes, yes, they did. And.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

about that for just a minute?

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes, of course. While I'm most familiar with Archangel Gabriel's personality and energetic presence because I work so much with him

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

but with Archangel Michael, there's a great sense of protection that comes with him.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Okay.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

energy is like almost like. If you can imagine, well, none of the archangels really had wings, but I realized that wings are symbolic of their being an angelic being.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

so it's almost like these large wings that just sort of hold you in protection. And so you can call on him and ask him for. That kind of support when you need it when

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Feeling was very

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

it was very strong.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

that right away.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes, I got that right away with Archangel Raphael, definitely this feeling of a beautiful heart-centered presence. Because as I studied more about archangels later on he is the healer, archangel. He's the one that works with healers. He's the one who heals broken hearts and people who are suffering from grief. And so, in a way, I do work with him too because, I help people with their grief. But his energy that way is very soft and very gentle

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Oh,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

sweet.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

It must have been a significant difference between a strong protective,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Yes,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

and a soft energy

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

don't go together. Yeah. So they're very distinctive.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

There is a sense of love in both energies.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Oh,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

In Archangel Michael's protectiveness, there's a sense of I'm here for you to protect you, and there's a love you feel there with Archangel Raphael, I'm here to heal you. To be that, that space where you can be healed. And there's a love there too.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Yes. Yes. let's hold off on Gabriel,'cause you know him a lot more. And let's, let's go. When we start the next episode, let's, let's talk about Archangel Gabriel,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

would love to,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

share with us some of what he's like, because that's, something that you spend a lot of time and get a lot of of help from,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

yes.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

So Well, I'm so glad that we're going to have a series of these interviews because I had made some notes. I. Before we started, and I think out of the six pages of notes, I think we're on like page two. So we have, we have a lot to talk about and I'm so excited about it. Thank you so much,

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

Thank you,

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Smidar and I really look forward to continuing.

squadcaster-2j3h_2_04-15-2025_112809:

thank you. Thank you for.

james_2_04-15-2025_142807:

Alright. Yeah. Bye-bye.