Astrology & Consciousness-Navigating New Realms in 2026 with Charlotte and Melissa Abell

The conversation revolves around the dynamic astrological changes anticipated in 2026, marked by a rare alignment of Saturn and Neptune, which last occurred 9,000 years ago. 

The speakers, seasoned astrologers Charlotte and Melissa, discuss their lifelong journeys with astrology and the novel concept of 'Awakened Wayfinders Evolving (AWE) Astrology'. They explain how this alignment signals a transformative shift from a 3D consciousness to a more compassionate, interconnected 5D consciousness. 

The duo underscores the importance of breaking routine and embracing new experiences to harness the positive energy of this astrological phase. 

The discussion also touches on practical ways to navigate this change, emphasizing the need to expand love, empathy, and joy in everyday life.

Transcript

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 2:05

It's so good to be here. So good to be here.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 2:08

It's no mystery to anybody who's watched any of these interviews or listened to them that I'm very fond of. You two. As we were discussing before we got started on the recording, we have met each other only in the last couple of years. And we have a connection that we. All believe is that we are in our soul group together and that this was meant to be. And we're just so happy that we're able to be together and to present this information to you. And I got my, my gang together. My my tribe is here. I was looking over the podcasts that we've done before.'cause this is not our. First, by far our first interview together I found out that we really, since May of 2024, we have done nine interviews together. I'm gonna read what they were healing with energy from Angels Master Alignment, soul Awakening, next Grand Adventure. Two episodes on astrology and three on Law of Attraction. And it's just so exciting and I recommend to anyone to listen to anyone or all of those because they're all really good episodes. Today is going to be talking about astrology. And not exactly astrology, but we'll let the, let Melissa and Charlotte talk about, how it differs a little bit. And but before we get going, I wanted to look at the credentials of the two of you.'cause if anyone's going to listen to this and listen to what you guys are talking about we should know. Why should we listen to what you have to say? And Charlotte, I would ask you to get started. You're not a newcomer to astrology.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 3:54

No, not at all. I was thinking this morning, I started way back in actually 1970. I began and studied with various astrology teachers and have kept on going, adding to that, the mast alignment, the different healing modalities and just. Like all along, learning more and checking with other, I call master astrologers, to get insight and information and then. Mixing it my own way and sending it out there. So I just figured that in my life, if I can understand something, I will help you understand it. From my perspective rather than a whole bunch of astrological jargon,'cause who cares? All that kind of stuff. I've listened to different astrologers and when they start getting into the different aspects, I just think, oh, help me, Lord. Help me,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 4:49

Yes.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 4:50

Just tell me what it means thing.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 4:53

And so today is not gonna be one of those jargon filled, esoteric discussions. It's gonna be let's understand this.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 5:02

It's something new that Melissa will take over now because like we have this thing called awe astrology, which is different. A WE stands for awakened wayfinders evolving, and then we just put the astrology on the end of it. It's different

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 5:20

Okay let me say that again. Awakened,

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 5:23

awakened finders evolving.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 5:29

Great. Great. And now Melissa, you also have been involved with astrology for some time.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 5:36

Growing up with, in a house with a professional astrologer mother, it was really like the second language and I was already fascinated by it when I was, I remember being as young as six years old and every year I would look forward to those. Aquarius outlook for the new year. I was always really into it. I think I, I came in with an interest in it, so being exposed to it for so long and we've had some amazing professional astrologer teachers in our beloved Buzz Meyers was unlike any other teachers, a master. He passed away in 2000, but it's just been a ride, Have it always be in the background, since I was really young. It I just, I love it. I love it.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 6:20

We are going to get the benefit of the, your, both of yours, tremendous experience and and just thorough knowledge and comfort. Comfort with the topic does any of this work that you do with astrology, does it have anything to do with guides or is it more or anything or not so much.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 6:40

I feel like definitely it does because our guides we were teaching the all class awakened wayfinders evolving classes, and then all of a sudden the guide said, Hey, by the way, old astrological of paradigm is outdated for it's really for the third dimensional. Consciousness and we're moving into 5G. So they said, we're, we want you to, if you're, if you say yes, we're gonna introduce this new way of looking at astrology called astrology with you. And that was it. So definitely it came from the guides, so hundred percent I,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 7:19

Oh, okay. Oh I didn't realize that, that this really was something that you guys didn't come up with on your own necessarily.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 7:29

It was really guided. Yeah.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 7:31

Really guided and it's it simplifies so many things and as we step into this next time ahead of us, it's like new things and astrology too is gonna need to change. And it has changed because there's all these. and things and all these different names, and I just thought, I can't handle that. So just that's that simple, and that's what the guides really have helped us do. So this came in actually in 2024. We spent all of 24 with the classes. Of a shift, and then this year, 2025, we've expanded on a lot of that, that it's so exciting for us because it's new for us too. wonderful.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 8:18

oh, that is so neat. You've both been evolved for so long. And to have something new come into the phase has gotta be really neat. Would you tell us about why is it new? What's coming up? What's happening?

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 8:32

One of the things that we'd like to bring today is like the newness. We're almost ready all already into 2026, so 2026. an astrological level has so many changes and shifts, just like this year did. Who knew what the heck was gonna be going on? Nobody. So 2026 has even more astrological. happening, starting a whole new paradigm. It's not just a new anything, it's like big time stuff. Because of the way that the planets are aligning, it's not happened what for? 9,000 years or something like that to have this kind of astrological stuff. And all the astrologers are all excited and we all have our little things about what we're thinking and knows because it's something new, means that it's never happened before. each day is new. You don't really know what's gonna happen during your day. You get up and you have plans, and then they change and you deal with it and you flow with it. So one of the things coming up with an actual date, February 20, all that means is that just like a new year, okay, we have January one. You start new. For the year. This is just saying new, but it's a cycle that's gonna take 164 years to find itself out.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 10:00

Oh my goodness.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 10:01

you just figure that the newness is where you really set, I guess the emotional quality to set a vision about what you really want with this. These, this aspect, we'll call it an aspect, it's two planets are coming together at one degree of Aries. The new start, that's where our calendar starts.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 10:23

Let me interrupt you for a minute and let's just, pause and I wanna just cut up. Backtrack a little bit and to talk about that, that as we're coming out of. 2025 and we're going into 2026. And I have heard, in the talking to spiritual people that, that people keep saying I'm so lucky to be alive in this time of great change that it's happening. Is that the great change that people are talking about that does that involve the, what's gonna happen in 2026?

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 10:58

Yes it's just like the beginning. It's like the new baby, you come into the world and now. It'd be our job to set foundation for what is to come. And it's moving more into fifth dimension, if you wanna look at it that way. It's higher frequency energy because actually more and more people really are waking up. Believe it or not, it's always don't listen to the news. You're good. And you find all these wonderful people that are waking up and doing, acts of compassion and kindness and bringing their light and their love into the world, they're caring. so one of the things that I find is the foundation for all of this is basically understanding as a human being. We are actually divine beings, just like trees and the nature and everything else. It's all divine. And when we talk, we say, oh, that was a divine evening, because everything flowed and everything was wonderful. And then when you look at being human now, oh my gosh, we get to have a body that can smell and can taste, and can feel and can sing, and can hear all of these things that take for granted. And I think the time here is to really value and understand the magnificence of who we are. You have all these different things coming in and life is speeding along and yet really grounded. To go out and smell the wonderful smell of like dampness and leaves and the trees, and it's just heavy. It's divine. It's divine. I think we're in a space where we're going to value we are and then see everyone is who they are. So the guides are bringing in even more different information. That is, is helping me to understand maybe a little bit more about this time. So we were talking with some friends the other day and Melissa brought up something. The guides were bringing in about a silhouette, which. Maybe Melissa can explain it more.'Cause something I read this morning is we're in a field of consciousness. You think that you're the consciousness and putting it out there, but actually you're bringing it in and expressing as this being, so the consciousness creates this. It is. It was just heady to really think of these things in a different fashion, how powerful we truly are. Once we get over thinking that we're little nothing, it's. And we're all saying that just be who you are. Just love you,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 13:48

I think that's such a wonderful way to, to look to moving into the new year 2026. May we all. Take time and take our effort to remember that we are living just now. This is, we've gotta make the most of it. We're gonna pass on outta this human life and we're not gonna have these experiences then and we should really. Look at everything that we've got now and all these things in our senses and just really make the most of them and.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 14:23

It's just I keep thinking that this Christmas to just, try not to get into all that, her scurry and all of that, but just to just send your love and be peaceful and enjoy everything. When I'm doing that, I get up in the morning, I have a lot of energy and I do a lot of stuff, and I'm just like, calm and everything's happening. And then later when I get tired and I get cranky and I think, oh, everything. So it's like learning to really recognize when I'm getting out of that frequency and just taking it easy. It, it's just like being calm and just. Sitting quietly and sending out love and joy and peace into the world because it does count. It counts. It truly does. I'm sure that it's helpful to other people,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 15:11

yes. Now, Melissa Charlotte mentioned something that you could probably help us understand a little bit.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 15:18

It's interesting. The other day the guides brought. Through something about, it's the silhouette it's that in Lewis Carroll writing about Alice and Wonderland it's like, what it isn't. And I thought, why don't you just speak plainly, guys, like what does that mean? And it's so interesting because it's like, what if we think of ourselves as individuated form?

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 15:40

Right.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 15:40

That's how we have gone through life up until. Exciting shift. What if we see ourselves as consciousness? What if we're that thing outside of what we think is us and we're connected to all of that, we are consciousness. And I, there was something that said something about, I, I read something where it was like, if you are a sandcastle, you see a sandcastle and let's say the sandcastle is you and you're doing all the right things, you're eating right and you're exercising and working out. And you're a sandcastle, but really what is a sandcastle made out of it? It's made out of sand. We are made of consciousness. So guides keep saying, you're missing out on all of this bounty and abundance by seeing yourself as like cutouts in consciousness. See yourself as consciousness and the cutout is it's not, the thing and it reminds me of Dr. Joe Dispenza's work, where he's always talking about going into the field of all potentials and how does he get you there? He says, can you imagine this space between your nose and the wall? Can imagine, it's all about the space around you. And so this is really going to be a big theme for this new exciting time. And, one thing the guys keep saying, like wanting to keep it in layman's terms because life is

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 17:08

Yeah.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 17:08

let's face it. And like people that don't give a fig about astrology are gonna be like, oh, brother, eye roll. Eye roll. But the guys are like, look, you don't have to know a thing about astrology. You don't have to know a thing about anything. But we can tell you. Let's just say you were told that around between February and May of 26, if you're a betting person, chances are amazingly high that you're gonna win the lottery or win the farm. You would wanna go out and do something, or if you're a fisherman are gonna go fishing those days. Like they're saying, don't miss this opportunity when. Everything's just primed and it's like, what's the biggest thing to do is don't keep doing what you've always done. They're saying, if you do nothing, at least do something different. And it's like you don't even have to do anything proactively, but don't do what you've been doing because you'll just recreate. the same and that's not what we want. And if you think about the last time it was 9,000 years ago before, we have a history of what happened when this actual conjunction occurred before, but the last time we had a Neptune Saturn conjunction of any kind was 1989, when in four days the Berlin Wall fell after 28 years. Of being there, like it happened so fast, something that nobody could believe. And so it's really exciting and just the guys are like, just don't do what you've been doing. Do something else and that'll help usher in this new this new flow for you.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 18:54

Now

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 18:54

I.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 18:55

when you say do something else, in, in what way are you talking about, are you talking about invol involving relationships or hobbies or what? What do you mean do something different?

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:05

I love that question. It's basically anything like in your normal routine, if you typically get up and you have your coffee and you do this, you take a shower, it's just do something else. Surprise yourself,

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 19:16

And.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:16

outside.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:16

We all have routines and many of us take great comfort in those routines

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:21

and so they're

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:22

right?

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:22

this is about neuroplasticity and creating a different potentials, different possibilities.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:28

What is neuroplasticity? What's that all about?

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 19:32

From what we've heard from the guides, you, in layman's terms it's really like your brain is constantly wanting to put you in a comfort zone and make these connections, and this relates to that. And this feels good, so we're gonna keep doing it. And yet, what I love about this whole thing is 11 million bits of information come at us every minute. Guess how many? We let in 40 bits we're conditioned

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 20:03

much? How much? Say that again.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 20:05

40

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 20:06

broke

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 20:06

out of 11 million, 40.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 20:09

gosh.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 20:10

So imagine there's this whole reality, but because our mind wants to, this is how it is, this is what life is, this is our comfort zone, this is who we are. like we're only taking in a mill of fraction of what's available. So the guys are like, just do anything different. Use a different toothpaste. Go out and romp around if you typically one kind of cool thing is if you typically only watch this thing on television. Just tune into something you would never watch. If you never watch the news. It doesn't have to be vetted or something. It just do something different. Shake up, like you're in a snow globe. Shake up your, what you think your identity is and then it's like the brain can't latch onto that one path that's keeping you limited it. It can say, wow. It seems like there's change afoot. Let's go for it. Let's see what this is about,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 21:06

and that's what I think neuroplasticity is that we can create new pathways in our brain. And have thoughts go different ways than they traditionally do. And we can, so we can learn new habits, we can learn new things. We can change how we conduct our life, our lives. And that's the big, a big message then coming up is do that change something.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 21:31

It's big.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 21:31

yes. Yeah. Yesterday Melissa and I were talking I hurt my knee and then I went on this trip and did a lot of walking, little cobblestones and everything. By the time I got home, I could hardly walk a lot of pain and go to the doctor, and the standard is ibuprofen. heat. And then the ice and raise your leg. And then the next step is PT to keep it going. All that. And then, I was telling Melissa that might well be my focus for next year to get this thing healed. And she said, let's do something different. What would an animal get into your animal self? What would an animal do? They would rest. And so I spent a whole day resting, and I cannot tell you how much better. It's just like my body heard this I can rest, I can stop. My, my life is so active. I do aerobic dancing, I do line dancing, I do yoga. I run here, I run there. And so it said so just like my horse, if it hurt its leg, you wouldn't keep riding it.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 22:38

It what seems to be common sense to, for some other being maybe hasn't felt that way to ourselves?

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 22:45

We're the go, go kind of thing.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 22:47

yes. Yes.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 22:49

rest.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 22:50

Yeah. So that even that would be a change, right? If you're used to running around like crazy. Take time to, yeah,

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 22:59

It was, it's a big change for an active person to do no thing,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 23:04

i, why? Why do you think the guides want us to make this change?

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 23:10

It's interesting because this big Saturn, Neptune transit in February next year, there was this, there's this amazing French astrologer. His name is Andre Barbo, and he's passed away I think in 2019. But back in 2012, he actually had predicted the pandemic. He said that the low point of our culture of our world would be 2021. then at the same time when in his writings and predictions he said that. The optimal, like the new John, he's, he called it a splendid relaunch of civilization coming, starting with this transit in February of 26 for the next many years, say the next five years would be the absolute height. So he even predicted, this amazing high point. So again, why would we, even if we didn't care a thing about astrology, why would we want to ignore this energy of okay, all I'm supposed to do is just do something that I don't normally do. If I do nothing or I can really sow my seeds of my dreams, my wishes, Saturn represents 3D real. This is what it is, and Neptune represents 5G consciousness. And so they're coming together at the very point that the astrological Zodiac begins where time actually begins, which is again, 9,000 years. It's since it happened. And so it's really a whole new is. It is a reset and the guides say it's like the container that we came in with wherever we are in our walk of life. We came in with a certain expression of our identity and like they said, let's call that a line that your identity up till now has been like a line. And you love that you know yourself. This is how you are. You might wanna tweak it a little bit but they said, in February of 26 you're going to be pulled into being a square. Your line is going to be pulled in this square that has lots of expansion of lines, and you might go kicking and screaming and say, I have no interest in that. I'm a line A line. Then when you become part of the square, they say, you would wonder how did you ever function as a line? Because this is everything. This is, elevated consciousness. This is humanitarianism, this is what. The stuff of what dreams are made of, this is what we've been desiring. Not only personally, but trans personally. Why wouldn't we want to just do something? They're just saying, please do something. Just the only thing we would say not to do is the same old,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 25:54

I have a couple questions if I could.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 25:56

please.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 25:57

one, one is what is five D? What I'm. And what's the difference between 3D and five D?

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 26:04

That's a great question. So 3G is we think of the world as 3G. There's a table, there's my body, there's my skin. This is real. And five D consciousness they say is it's love it's. The energy that creates worlds. It's where you think of thought and it's made manifest. It's elevated, it's beautiful. It's a higher frequency is a higher consciousness where you're looking at not just yourself and your individuality, but what's best for me and for the whole. And seeing yourself as I am consciousness. So if I hurt some something outside of me. I'm hurt. There's no us them, it's all, it's oneness, it's connection. It's, you get to take your line into the square. To me it's it is the energy that creates worlds, and it's what we came in with, the promise of perhaps humanity would wake up to this higher consciousness. And so we have this perfect opportunity for this relaunch. In February and it is darned exciting. Jim, it's

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 27:07

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah so let me just paraphrase. I think what you said if, see if I understand it, that's that, we're not gonna lose what we have, that's gonna continue. Everything's gonna continue. But that, the added dimension of more loving other people and more feeling, part of a whole, everything is one and that we're part of it. That feeling of. We're all in this together and I'm gonna give out love, and I'm gonna care about people and I'm going to give empathy and other people are gonna do that for me, and that's going to become much more prevalent. Is that accurate? That part.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 27:55

Definitely. And if you think about it as it, we think of ourselves as transmitters. Of consciousness, like this is me and this is how, but it's like we're really receivers of is energy, everything is consciousness, and so we can make that switch. The guides brought a beautiful of summary of what this energy is. It's the beauty of this transit is Saturn gives Neptune's dreams, the dreams of us, a spine, a container, and Neptune gives Saturn's rules, compassion and imagination and meaning. And together they invite us to craft lives that are not just stable, but soulful. So we get to keep our stability and our individuation, and yet we realize that we are part of everything and we also get to receive the bounty, the blessings, the abundance of all the good, the, all of everything. And it's just so beautiful. So

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 28:57

yeah,

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 28:58

to answer your question yes and yes.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 29:01

I I, I keep, my mind keeps flashing on that figure of nine, 9,000 years. This is the,

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 29:09

it's 11 million that come at us and we only take 40 bits

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 29:16

Okay. And, but yeah I can't imagine it. But this the alignment of these two planets hasn't occurred like this in 9,000 years. Yeah. Yeah. What was happening 9,000 years ago, 2000 years ago, approximately, it was the birth of Christ and,

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 29:34

think 9,000 or 10,000 was supposedly the fall of Atlantis and big time. Changes, big time changes, but who knows? Because we don't really have a history of that. But, astrologers go way back with figuring different things. So it's like you can do with the stars in the astronomy. And they came up with that figure 9,000 years per this particular one because it's. first degree of Aries, which is new, it's like the new time, and to me, that's the marker. It's the new year, the new time. For this next piece of what. Humanity is going to be opening to the consciousness expanding. So there's a lot of shifting of course, and a lot of changes. But I think right now, we're in the kind of the juice of everything moving and shifting so that, as. Step into this new time. It doesn't mean the next day you're there and everything's honky dory. It means that this is the beginning of this new time. And so our dreams and our vision we have this planetary energy that's gonna say I will help you form it. And that's our job is to lay the foundation for what is next. So it's just a beautiful system,

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 30:54

so if I want to. Expand my love and empathy and my feelings of joy as I go through life. And I just do like with law of attraction, right? I just need to step up my feelings in that regard, right? And now with this change I'm gonna have more capability to do that. Is that right?

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 31:17

That's how I look at it already. I'm starting to be much, much more aware of what I think and how I put that energy out and aware when I, instead of filling the dog's water bowl first in the morning, I'll put water in for coffee. It's a change. It's just a little thing. It's like change, change up. just to to prove, to my body that we can exist with change, we can flow with it. Even the little things like that, it's your awareness of what you're doing. I think that's the answer to a lot of things, the awareness, and then you're aware when you're in the store and you. Kind of put your energy up there. Oh, I'm gonna this love out there, and see what happens. And it's just little things like that will help with this change. Because looking at the next time, it's like thinking about. What would you wanna do with this wonderful energy? What did you always wanna do? What are your dreams? And this planet Saturn is realistic and says, I will help you do it. I'll give you a form for it. And the Neptune is boundaryless. It dissolves. It's

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 32:29

Okay.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 32:30

the Berlin wall. It just dissolved. What the heck?

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 32:34

Yes. Yes.

squadcaster-1f3a_1_12-09-2025_101604 32:36

So it's interesting.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 32:37

Oh my gosh. It is. And we have used up all of our time plus for this particular episode, so we're gonna need to finish up and then go on and hopefully continue this discussion and do other discussions as in association with it. I just thank the two of you so much and, I just invite anyone who's been enjoying this to, to stay tuned.'cause we're gonna keep talking about this in another episode, so thanks. Thanks.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 33:03

you, Jim.

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 33:04

Yep.

melissa_1_12-09-2025_101606 33:05

it's a

james_1_12-09-2025_101606 33:05

All right. Thank.