Life - It Just Keeps on Going
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Life - It Just Keeps on Going
Journey of the Empath: An Interview with Kim Kane
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In a second interview, Jim and facilitator Kim Kane discuss Jim’s “journey of the empath,” focusing on clarifying goals before the session, setting a high-vibration intention (“holding the highest vibration in a way that serves me and others”), and using spacious, minimal guidance rather than hypnosis-style patter.
Kim emphasizes releasing preconceived notions, embracing the unknown, and shifting identity from body and mind to pure consciousness,. Pure consciousness is described as a remembered, divine, connected state.
Jim recounts moving beyond time and space, entering a portal, and being invited to a time before his birth, experiencing himself in the womb and strong emotion.
The key insight is discerning “what’s mine and what isn’t,” allowing empathy without absorbing others’ problems and recognizing each person’s separate life path.
Kim shares that sessions begin with a free fit conversation via whisperoftrees.com.
00:00 Empath Journey Intro
02:27 Setting Goals Together
04:53 Protecting Empath Energy
05:37 Intention As Rocket Fuel
07:47 Silence Not Hypnosis
11:13 Drop Expectations Embrace Unknown
15:23 Becoming Pure Consciousness
19:26 Beyond Time Space Portal
22:40 Womb Perspective Breakthrough
27:45 Whats Mine And Not Mine
31:57 Integration Staying Connected
34:10 How To Work With Kim
35:24 Closing Thanks And Farewell
This is our second interview with Kim Kane, and I'm really excited about this. I had an experience where Kim took me on a journey of the empath, it was incredible, and we're gonna talk about it right now. Welcome. Welcome, Kim
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Thank you, Jen
james_2_05-08-2026_130126I wanna just kinda get, keep moving 'cause there's so much to, to talk about, so I'm gonna dive right into it. Before we actually did the journeying part of it on the day that we were gonna do the journey, we had a very nice talk about where did we wanna go with this, and what was my goal on that? What did I want to achieve? And can you talk about that a little bit? That's certainly a wide open question. People must have all different statements about that.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135They sure do. And of course, even the journey we select would be different depending on what the person wanted to encounter. But in this
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Oh
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135particular case it felt like in our discussion that the journey of the empath was really the way to go. And one of the things in this work that's really important is that we start the process as soon as we say hello. It's not
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135just the journey itself, but it's all of that conversation leading up to it and what's important to you, what are you experiencing? And then really the big question is, what would you like to experience instead? How would life be different if... And start embracing that new energy even in the conversation.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. And one of the things I wanna bring up is that it's not that you say, "Okay this... You've got 45 minutes and we gotta get this in." It's really an open-ended timeframe, which is so generous of you and wonderful for the person experiencing it. Because even from the beginning, when you're about what do you wanna do or what's, what are you gonna get out of this, it allowed me to really think about it and to formulate it. I didn't have that idea of all set in my mind and I had it all written down or anything. You just... We talked about it, and I felt very comfortable in thinking about it and really making it genuine of what I wanted to. And it took a little while for me to figure it out and I really appreciate that, Kim.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah. And normally we do spend some time having those kind of conversations because that's the fuel that helps us launch in that journey portion when we get to that place where we're talking about now we're in a session. But everything leading up to that is, is helping us arrive there, and being clear about where you wanna go is important. Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Definitely. For me, I told you that I wanted to be able to talk about problems with other people give them caring and concern, but not let that person's problems, negatively affect me. and that I'm having some problem, some struggle with that that having a genuine deep conversation with somebody about what their issues are was hard for me because I would just absorb, I would just take that in and I would be walking around with it, and that wasn't, very healthy or good. So what I wanted to end up doing was to even if I really care about the person who's talking to me about their issues, I wanna be able to just protect myself. And that was what I wanted to do. And one of the important parts of the actual voyage part of it is setting your intention and having a clear intention set out. Could you talk about that a little bit, please?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Absolutely. I think of the intention as the rocket fuel. So
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135we spoke about last time, the-- one of the main tenets of this is to move, to expand beyond the body, mind, and personality. And We're doing some facilitation to help the person get there, to help you get there in this case. But the kind of rocket fuel that helps that launch is setting that intention, that it's high vibrational, that it's beneficial, it's aspirational. Where do we wanna go to? So we usually are able to fairly easily state the problem. I know what's what's the conflict, what the challenge is, but what would I like instead? And so that's the rocket fuel that allows us to be already elevated, already in a different resonance. And at that higher realm, then we didn't start with where we were at the beginning of the conversation. We've already moved up so that as the journey begins, it really has already started, and that's very important. Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. And in my case helped me to formulate the... i'm gonna read it from my notes here. That my intention was holding the highest vibration in a way that serves me and others. And that is a perfect synopsis of it. I want to be high vibration. I want to really be there for the person, but I wanted it to serve both them and me. And so how we're gonna do that and is something that I was gonna learn about. And once we got that rocket fuel going, then we just started into the process. And it starts off with the facilitator, the-- which would be you, Kim, just talking by themselves for a period of time. One aspect of it that we talked about just briefly before getting ready to, for the interview is the amount of space that is given in between the, what the facilitator talks about. That because this isn't hypnotism. It's relaxing and realizing these different states. And could you talk about that a little bit, please?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Sure. In hypnosis sometimes we'll refer to something as patter. It's the continuation of the voice and saying little things along the way to help guide the individual. And
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135in, in this it's very different. As you spoke about, if you were to look at a transcript of everything, it's oh it's very short of what-- if you condense all of the words. But when it's happening, it really is happening in real time for the client. So as we begin to speak slower, more space between words, more space between thoughts, between sentences, then the client is free to begin to expand really into their own natural state. If you think of someone who's able to meditate very deeply and move out beyond this very human self there's a tremendous freedom in that. And so the less said, the better on the part of the facilitator, and that can be difficult for people to embrace as facilitators. It's a skill set of its own to allow the silence and allow the experience. Your experience, what you are having going on is real and happening, and the voice can interrupt that experience. So stepping back is crucial and challenging maybe in the beginning for facilitators.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Oh I would think so. And as a, producer of a podcast, the amount of time in between and is very important, and I pay close attention to that. Sometimes there needs to be a lot of time in between. I was just was editing pi- an episode with Benjamin Carro where he was thinking about things, and I had edited that out it just wouldn't have been as effective. And no sound sometimes is the most powerful. And in this case, w- working with you, I needed to not be pushed. needed to l- to be able to do it myself. If I felt I was being pushed, I wouldn't-- I would've just turned it off. I wouldn't have been able to do it. And so the pauses in between... the pace of your talking and the pauses, l- quite long pauses, great. They were so important to me. It's kinda like you were... I was moving forward at my pace, and you were just just nudging me a little bit
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126A little bit one way, to go over one way or another. And I think that was very effective. A- and it really was great for me because I could settle in, I could relax, and I could just let it happen. And that... you say in the, in your work that, that we're going to move, to another state. And one of the things that you say is that, which I think is so important, is to give up any preconceived notions what the experience may be. And I just ask you to speak about that a little bit because I'm sure i'll back up on that. I think that's really important because the pre- the people that are coming to you, that are having the experience, they're not professional voyagers or whatever. They're gonna come in with their everyday world thoughts, which are kinda clinging on to what we know. And so I thought that was a big thing, to give up your preconceived notions. Could you talk about that a little bit?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Sure. I that's something I developed over time. It's not necessarily part of the the protocol. But
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135found was that people were coming in and saying what, you know-- Tell me what the experience is gonna be like so that I'll have that experience." And that is reductive in this case, because when we talk about expanding, we're talking about taking things off, not putting more things on, right? And how we've ended up however we are in our current state is that we've been conditioned in so many ways, you're this, you're not that, and just layer upon layer of people telling us who we are and how we are to behave. And so we're deconstructing that model and as those things move out, w- we're free to experience our authentic self. So it's very important to set aside anything that experience may be. Even if it's a second session with a client the previous experience doesn't apply here because we wanna be open to whatever these guides, the, In that connected state, gosh, so much is available to us, and we don't wanna limit it in any way.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126No and w-- the, a next step that's associated with that giving up preconceived notions is to embrace the unknown, is the next nudge that you give. And I thought that was so meaningful to me that is it's different than n- up preconceived notions. M- then you're thinking of nothing and then to embrace the unknown, it just allows the person to be like, "Yeah I like that idea. I like the I'm gonna be probably coming across some of the unknown and I want to embrace it." And that gives the person the opportunity to just really, embrace the situation and say, "Yeah, bring it on. Bring on the unknown, please."
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yes.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126It's great.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135And isn't it the almost the opposite of what we experience in this life? The idea is, the only way we can be safe is with absolute certainty. And
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135certainty precludes any spiritual intervention because we're guiding it then, which we've been taught is the best way forward. Get 'er done, guide that ship, take it where it's going, and we give up all sense of wonderment, all sense of what greater things could be. So yeah, I-- that-- I think that's very important to acknowledge.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yeah. It's not a natural thing that we do every day is to embrace the unknown.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135It's not
james_2_05-08-2026_130126We definitely don't. Definitely don't do that. And I think that important that you don't do that at the very beginning. as a facilitator and a we've moved into the experience quite quite a bit then at that point when I'm not ex- not looking at a preconceived notion and then I'm, next step, embrace the unknown. I think that's so great because then now you set the stage for what is the unknown? And and so the next thing that you brought on was to start to think of yourself as consciousness because... And let me just stop here for a second, is because if there's someone listening that doesn't get into this kind of area very much, the, the-- my understanding is that there, there's a body including a brain, and then separately is consciousness. That's that consciousness continues over into the next life and continues on. It's a whole different thing. And in this instruction or in this nudge as I'm calling it, is that you start to think y-you're about to embrace the unknown, and then you're gonna start to think of yourself you don't say it this way, but not as the body, not as the mind, but as consciousness. And that's an area that everyday life people don't really get into much, right?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135They don't. And yet you are able to experience how natural that felt, how easy that was. And what that speaks to is we're not going somewhere new. We're going to a remembered state. We've been there before. We've all been that before we came here. We'll be there again. And so I think the reason it's so ea- is people are often amazed at how easily they flow into that state, and it's because it is a, it's a remembered state. Maybe long buried under all kinds of notions and conditioning, but very accessible, very available. Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. Yes. And there, there are three different nudges in that particular part of the experience of the journey. And that is to think of yourself as consciousness, the body and consciousness, and then once you've done that, now you just have the consciousness by itself, the consciousness. And then, oh, in the next one too, move the consciousness away from the body, and the human self just falls away. And now it's just consciousness and the nudge is to gently embrace your divine state of being. I can say that from my experience in this is that natural progression that I just went through those steps is very effective, and it feels so good. It's great to feel like consciousness. Consciousness is not taken up with the day-to-day issues and problems in this experience. It just sits by itself there. And y- and I think embracing your divine state of being, could you talk about that a little bit, Kim?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135The idea is that when we are connected, I-- the only word I can really think of how that feels is divine.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135so much time in our human life of, experiencing isolation or separateness i-internal, if not, physically, but internally. And as we are in this pure conscious form, We're able to just be. And the opportunities to just be in this life sometimes are limited. Maybe when we're in nature with a new baby, all, different states. But t-to, to your point, it feels so good to be, just exist in that formless state. Yeah. And connected
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. Yes. You're floating free, but you're connected. And I'm gonna jump over a few of the steps because we're, if we're having so much fun it-- I wanna leave a little bit of time to talk about some topics. And and this process continues until a point in time where the nudge is that you are moving beyond time and space, and I remember myself at this point in time, we're you and I were starting to have a dialogue and, you asked what are experiencing this moving beyond time and space?" And I experienced being in a very vast open area where there's nothing else in there. It just, there's no Earth, there's no anything. It's just a, just beyond time and space. It's just wide, wide open. And that was m-my f-feeling coming from inside me, that I was feeling. 'Cause that's the beauty of these, this dialogue section of it, is that am allowing what's happening within me to be stated out loud. And and so that was my first statement that I made, is that I'm in a really vast open area. And I know I'm moving quickly through this, but then the next nudge is to talk about a portal, that I'm, seeing a portal and I'm drawn to the portal. And then what did I feel then? And I can say that I recall what I said was, is that I feel like I'm moving. And I had even a vision of a little boy running effortlessly, and that, it's movement, easy movement. And so I was moving in, into this portal and through this portal. And it wasn't-- I didn't know a portal was involved in this whole thing. I didn't... When-- I wasn't looking for it. I didn't expect it. I had no surprise of it. I was open to the unknown portal unknown. Where am I going through the portal? Unknown. And I was able to embrace it and just move through it. And and then, the the q-questions continued about what are you seeing in there? What's there? And now we're getting into some of the big, moments for me in this. And, I'm gonna just talk a little bit about what our dialogue was and what I said is that I said that the field is dark and it's darker than the rest, but then there's a pulsating movement swaying back and forth. And your question was, Kim, to me was, "What's the purpose of being shown this?" My response was, "So I can see that there are other places other than what consciousness shows me every day." And that, that was-- I didn't know. As I'm looking back on it, I think that's pretty big statement to make. And I, I-- it's looking like it was a pretty, in a way, profound statement that I didn't plan or I didn't know, it just came out of me.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126I thought that was really neat,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135and you were there,
james_2_05-08-2026_130126and
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135you, in that
james_2_05-08-2026_130126I was
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135experiencing that? And that's the part, it's not just the words being said, but the words are an attempt to express the actual experience that you're having
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. Yes. Yes. And and then you you said, I'm gonna read from my notes that, "From this space, this timeless space, invited back to a time before the birth of Jim." And again, we're in the unknown. Didn't know this was coming. Didn't think about it. I can tell you that, I already was there in, in this experience big time. then when that question came I felt this incredible surge of emotion that I just wanted to cry. so I think that is such a huge thing that I'm having this emotion. Can you talk about that at all, Kim?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135When we're having a real experience, then we're going to have the emotions that go with it. And so often I find there's a need to let go. And sometimes those emotions are that way of expressing that out, that it can be a beautiful, loving space, and yet there's an awareness that we're not in that beautiful, loving space all the time. And so there's a happiness, sadness all combined together, if that's not misspeaking for you. But-- And of course,
james_2_05-08-2026_130126no,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135it's different for everyone, but talking about your experience, yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126No, that's exactly it, that this isn't gonna last forever, but I'm in it right now, and boy, does it feel
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126And intense. And the, And I right away experienced that I was kind-- I'm gonna read again from my notes, an unformed human in a human-like shape, but I haven't been formed yet.
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james_2_05-08-2026_130126And I think that you may have known I was going there, Kim, before I did
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah, the idea is to with this particular journey, is to be able to return to the womb so that we can experience observing but not absorbing those energies. Quite often they start that early at the before birth. And so that's a great place to go to re-experience, which then changes the reality of today by having a new experience.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126It was a very intense thing, and I did some crying about it because it was just so intense that I'm sitting there realizing that am in the womb I am- I'm genuinely there, that there's no doubt about it.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126But the weird thing is that I can also talk like myself not in this experience or journey. I can kinda make editorial comments about it, but not go out of the journey. And so I think
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yes.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126is... it's like I'm not lo- I'm not beyond my control. I'm in my control, but I am in this experience big time. And the fact that I was in the womb just by myself and I hadn't hit the real world yet was a big thing. It, it was a vantage point I could look at things that I've never had that vantage point that I recall. I was in my mother's womb, but I don't remember what my thoughts were at that time. But this opportunity to go there and be in that special time and place, and to what I saw and being there without any problems, without any burdens it it was really a unique spot to be and very valuable for me
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah. And I think one of the things with doing the work in this way as the facilitator, as you're guided out, I'm no longer talking to Jim anyway. You're this expanded, conscious, luminous energy. And so We refer to Jim in the third person so that gives you that opportunity to see what's happening with Jim, with this eternal you, so that you can help. Because the purpose of this i- as wonderful as it is to be in those states, also there's the very practical need to assist Jim with what's going on in his daily life. So it's both being expanded, but you, the wise you self, can then communicate that to, to Jim to bring back so that he is changed by the experience. Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. Yes. And that was the, I kinda alluded to before, it's like I was at the same time real world Jim and in the womb Jim without any going back and
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126really significant to me. And I didn't have any worldly problems. And that, And I knew that life was gonna happen and ahead of me. I knew I was gonna be born, and I didn't know what was going to happen in there and that, One, a huge point that came up in this experience was that I have my own life path and others have their own life path. And that was perhaps the biggest realization that I had while I was there, was that I can love people and I can to them, and I can care about them and care about their problems, but that their life path is theirs. I have no control over it. I don't control what happens out in the world. I only have my experience. I'm on the receiving end of
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yes
james_2_05-08-2026_130126things. I'm receiving it, and I can't control them. and that was so big. C- can you comment on that,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah, that, that's part of the journey we would call knowing what's mine and what isn't. And
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135certainly we're taught at a very early age in most families that we're responsible for the feelings of our parents, our siblings, our aunts, our uncles, our teachers, the police officers, everyone around us, and if we perform correctly, then they'll be happy. And, boy, a- at a foundational level, that is just so unhealthy, and we each have our own responsibility to pursue our own path. And then it gets so convoluted, doesn't it? Because I'm performing for you, and you're performing for me, and no one's being authentically who they are. And if we're not clear about that, we can even try interfering with someone else's growth with all the best of intentions, but saying,
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Oh,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135"Oh gosh, you can't bear to experience pain. Let me go in there and..." And if I always think of, for myself to stop short of that I always think about that sweet little chicken and how, sometimes little kids are given chickens to raise, and they ha- they have that little egg, and if you go over there and take that shell away, sometimes the, that sweet little chicken doesn't survive. It needs to peck its own way out. And so in this-- so this is right, this is mine, and that's not mine. And most everything isn't ours, is it? It's someone else's.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126No.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135And so if we've observed and not absorbed, then it's easier to say, "Oh, this is mine, and that's not mine." And boy, talk about relieving the responsibility. It's huge, and I think that's what you were experiencing. It was a big relief not to be responsible for basically everyone you meet. You were taking on Lot of that
james_2_05-08-2026_130126A lot of-- I had a lot of emotion upon realizing that. and it was really only being in this perspective of being there in, in the womb by myself before life started, m- right? And being able... That, that's a unique spot to look from. I know that d- while I was in there, I said, "Looking at it from this vantage point, it's so clear
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126That I've got my path and they've got theirs." But boy, it does-- It gets a lot more complicated out in life. But that's my goal, right? Is to use that energy in a way that benefits me and others. In this way, if I can be genuine and be honest and be loving, that's all I can do. I can't control their life.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135And that's
james_2_05-08-2026_130126and I don't...
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135so beautiful
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yeah, I don't have that obligation or that burden. I don't have the burden of doing that. They have their own burdens
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135And what I think of that too is that's the kind of culmination. So we're observing, not absorbing what's mine and what isn't. And then we need the energetic discernment to, to suss that out as we go along in our daily lives. And so that allows us to continue to be vulnerable, to be empathetic, to engage deeply and meaningfully, and then say, "Have a nice day," and we move on without carrying their grief, their sadness, their anger, whatever it may be with us, and vice versa, and not trying to foist our whatever it is onto someone. "You take care of me." No, I get to be here because I we continue to be connected. One of the things that, that we-- I usually ask in a journey is how can we stay connected? Because you wanna continue that growth and evolution. Yeah
james_2_05-08-2026_130126It was a fantastic experience. I remember saying to you after we finished the journey that I, I think everyone in the world should have that experience. It's so It's so applicable to everyone, every single person's life. We all have people that we love. W- we don't want them to be hurt. We don't want those burdens of life to, to weigh them down. And, but that is their life. The-- what a thing to learn and to keep in mind as I go forward. It, Kim it just, it's been so wonderful, and I hope that we have had a chance here today to people know what the opportunity is in having such an experience, and the fact that it is... you can have it. It's there. It's not difficult to have the experience. You just have to show up and be open to it. And it's really great. H- how would someone get a chance to work with you, Kim?
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135My website is whisperoftrees.com, and
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Okay
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135can go there and and schedule a meeting so we can talk about it and see if this is right for them and and go from there. Yeah, that would be wonderful
james_2_05-08-2026_130126So it doesn't cost a dime to, to talk about it with you
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135And not a dime. And it's good-- it's important that it be a good fit for,
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yeah. Oh,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135For the, client. And so we meet to, to get to know one another, and that they feel comfortable with me. Everyone has a different energy and resonance and
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135we wanna be a good fit so that what I'm doing is supportive, helpful, and eventually illuminating. Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. They have to feel that they can trust you,
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Yes.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126and and either they're going to or they're not. And
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Absolutely
james_2_05-08-2026_130126yeah, that's great. And you don't charge for that. You don't want to go through this process unless it's gonna be meaningful for everybody
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Ac- yeah, that that's a very important part. And I, I do require that initial meetup so that we can make that determination. Yeah.
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Yes. Yes. Kim Kane, thank you so much.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135You, Jill. Whisperoftrees.com
james_2_05-08-2026_130126whisperoftrees.com. Please check it out. And and I, again, I thank you so much, Kim. This has really been wonderful.
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Oh,
james_2_05-08-2026_130126Thank you
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135thank you, Jim, for your vulnerability and showing up and normalizing the anomalous. That's beautiful
james_2_05-08-2026_130126It was a wonderful, wonderful interview. Thank you
kim-kane_2_05-08-2026_100135Thanks