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News from June and July 2024

• GenXGeekery • Season 1 • Episode 51

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This episode we go over some news stories from the last couple months. NFL lawsuits, Eels up asses, and Hugh Jackman looking Jacked, Man.
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Shaun:

news stories that have happened recently. As usual, we at the end of the month, or slash begin the month we try to bring you that new stories that we found interesting, and today we have a few of them for you. Nate, do you want to start?

Nate:

yeah, well, I bet it's like yes and no, because you know from the beginning. Um, I would just kind of say you know, scratch that, take two. I do want to start, however. I don't actually have any news stories as of yet. I've been crazy busy. I wanted to kind of talk about, like when I was looking through articles. I want to be as fair as possible, you know, because I realize certain news agencies have certain slants.

Shaun:

But I'd be damned if I were using Fox News, you know, or Sunplay, because that's just look.

Nate:

So you've got to be careful with Fox News too, because there's a difference between fox news and, like local fox affiliates too, so you know you might want to put like a fox 23, and usually those stations are, you know, slightly less, uh, polarizing, slightly, true, very true, but there there are still like leanings because, um, I was watching a john oliver a while back and they, a lot of those news across the country, a lot of the news stations are actually owned by the same conservative like media and so they'll, they took, they released this, um, like this thing they wanted all the news reporters to read and talk about, like, oh, you know, we are really concerned about this thing happening in our country.

Nate:

And it was verbatim across the nation. They kept on taking glimpses. It's one thing to say, hey, we have this we want to say, but they were trying to pass it off as my personal belief in this situation. This is where I stand, but it was just across the nation. All the radio, all the news stations were saying the same thing, all of them playing it off as if it was their words.

Shaun:

They were saying not their core.

Nate:

They're basically reading somebody else's opinion. Yeah, it's like I don't know.

Shaun:

This is close enough to my opinion. I might as well just read it verbatim and they were.

Nate:

They were told it was clear. They were told to read it verbatim because there was no deviation. You know, I would have a lot more respect. They're like, hey, here's the general vibe. We want to go with um, go out there and you know you need to pitch this, but pitch it your own way. They didn't do that. They're like you must read it this way.

Shaun:

I know what you're talking about too, because I've seen it not only where they read it verbatim, but they even have like the same inflection in their voice in certain areas. I mean it with those finding articles. So I have some news stories. If you'd like me to start, good, all right. First of all, this doesn't have much to do with your interest, but it's kind of interesting in my own way.

Shaun:

So remember how the NFL has been doing that fun thing where it's like hey, if you want to watch games, you've got to have local TV, you've also got to have Amazon Prime or even the Paramount Network, and they just kept like adding on streaming options and you know different ways.

Shaun:

You have to watch it by paying and this, and that Basically, it's no longer just. You know you can throw on Channel 13 and watch your football, you also have to have the NFL Network, you have to have all these different things. Well, they got sued by the government saying, yeah, that's actually not really that cool to be doing that to people anymore. So not only did they get zinged with $4.7 billion in damages that they got to pay out, but also this might come into the era usher forth, the era where you can literally just pay to watch just your team. Like if I wanted to watch the Seahawks, I could literally just pay like $5 a month to get just Seahawks games, which that would be kind of a neat thing to do, because, as is now, I believe people figured out that if you want to watch every nfl game through all the streaming things, you're paying something like 300 a season to watch it all ridiculous I mean I get, I get the reason why they owe me obviously money but it's all money, that's.

Nate:

All the nfl wants is money they realize, look um, they're not gonna. You know, not as many people are gonna pay for. I don't know um the michigan pixies.

Nate:

I'm sure they don't exist, yeah, it works for me, you know, versus like fucking the seattle seahawks. You know, yes, it's they, there's no question. And so obviously, you know, on one hand, that means the seahawks are gonna get a lot better coverage than the pixies you know they're like. But at the same time, it's like they probably weren't gonna do that anyway, you, even if they were paying $300 for all of it Because they weren't breaking that money. Equally, where?

Nate:

they're like okay, everyone, from the Seahawks to the Cowboys, to the Pixies, to the Gnomes, they're all getting their own. We're going to dedicate just as much money to reporting each one of these teams.

Shaun:

With team names like that, you made your own fantasy league. Haha, exactly boom pixies and gnomes versus cowboys and seahawks and also with all this money, the people that actually really hurt. You know man boohoo, the bar owners. But borrowers, uh, you know they want to show every game possible and if they gotta start paying out the ass for subscription fees, kind of sucks for them. For the local bar that you know can't really afford the extra 300 bucks or a couple hundred bucks a month to watch all the games.

Nate:

No, fair. But they could also just, you know, pick and choose. You know like yeah, hey, you're a bar, you could make it a theme. Hey, this bar, we support this team on, then come here so that's cutting off a good portion of your uh, clientele fair. No, you could make it, you're definitely. Yeah, well then, don't be a sports bar.

Shaun:

No, I'm not talking sports bars, just any bar, I mean that's what you're gonna have on the tv. If there's an nfl game on, do you really want something else on the tv? I guess I never really everybody literally gonna come up to the bar and be like why is the nfl game not on? Well, we can't afford it, sir. And then they're just like f you bye, we're going over to ted's across the street I guess I've never really considered like because I don't care, you know.

Nate:

So I've never really paid attention to sports when, when it's on, I I might, I naturally goes to tv. So I've watched sports I don't give a shit about because yeah, it was just there I was in the mexican restaurant.

Nate:

I was eating chips and I saw argentina um versus germany on a soccer game. Um, I don't care about either team. I'm not a huge fan of soccer, although I will say I'm not a huge fan of soccer. But on the hierarchy of sports I don't give a shit about. I actually care more about soccer than others.

Shaun:

But it's good that you started over soccer Wars and riots, oh yeah absolutely.

Nate:

That's not even a joke, totally.

Shaun:

Did you see what happened to that soccer game down in florida? No world champion, it was, uh, argentina and oh, I don't know, let's just say brazil, but I guess so. Uh, you know, it's pretty common in those things for people to like break in and sneak in to try to watch games for free. Well, this time, I guess, apparently a lot of fans like literally got blueprints to mi Dolphins stadium and people were breaking.

Shaun:

You can look up photos of it. People were like literally crawling into ventilation ducts and like spooning through the ventilation ducts and popping out various places in the stadium, cause I guess they literally had like little blueprints of where all those ducts went and were like, hey man, if we just scoot down this duct 30 feet and hang a right, we can pop out by the locker rooms. Yeah, pop out by the locker rooms. Yeah, there's just footage of people just in mass, like dozens of them, just pouring into various holes in the stadium. It's an impressive sight. They're in the vents, yeah, and you can see like the five security guards chase around and be like, what do we do?

Nate:

There's so many of them and they're just kind of like yeah, at one point you just gotta sit back and go alright. Whatever this is happening, we can't stop this. We're not paid enough to stop this.

Shaun:

Me and my taser and my billy club are going to get immediately overwhelmed and killed.

Nate:

Yeah, Like I'm standing at this door. I was paid to stand at this door. If they get around me, then they win. Yeah, this is Florida, I'm probably making $13 an hour to do this. It's not worth me getting crippled. Yeah, an hour to do this. It's not worth me getting crippled. Yeah, according to my contract, I was supposed to watch this door. I have continued to watch this door. I have successfully watched this door. No one has gotten past me.

Shaun:

Right, this one door has been blocked. What about?

Nate:

all those other doors around you.

Shaun:

You did not tell me to watch those doors.

Nate:

That was not on my contract. Yep, the ventilation was definitely not on my contract.

Shaun:

You've got to call Yep. The ventilations was definitely not my contract. Nah, nope, you gotta call the HVAC union for that. They're the only ones able to do that. I'm not allowed to go up a ladder, you see, I'm forbidden in my contract. Um, anyways, moving away from sports, I got another kind of an interesting story. So apparently, um Deadpool and Wolverine is set to top Passion of the Christ as the highest grossing R movie ever in the United States. Good, that means Deadpool is more popular than Jesus.

Nate:

Marvel Jesus beat the regular Jesus.

Shaun:

Yes, he did, and that's. Brilliant.

Nate:

It really is. Yeah, speaking of the Marvel Jesus bullshit, like I saw some TikToks, these people are all mad. They're like we left after a few minutes. Blah, blah, blah, it's Deadpool. Mm-hmm it Deadpool, it's Rated R and it's Deadpool.

Shaun:

Have you not seen the other ones? People are like. I read Little Lotta comics back in the day and this is nothing like Little Lotta or Richie Rich comics. I shouldn't have taken my two-year-old to this.

Nate:

Well, people even have said specifically the Marvel Jesus comic. I'm like that was in the trailers. Was there a Marvel Jesus comic?

Shaun:

I didn't even know that actually. Oh, oh you, obviously. I've watched so much of the trailers but like no, actually I kind of just avoid it all because I'm like I'm gonna watch the movie regardless.

Nate:

I don't need to see it, okay, well, yeah there's a comment basically saying like hey, you know, uh, and this isn't actually true. But like he gets the idea that he has been chosen to save like the marvel franchise, and so he's like I am marvel jesus and guys like, uh, no, and, but he rolled, he rolls with it and he continues going to the movie believing he's marvel jesus and people are like getting offended by that. I'm like it was an in the trailer. Yeah, that scene was in the trailer. They. That was a part that was like a full-on star star trek, um, cutting to commercials, full stop on face comment. He's like I am marvel. He looks dead in the dead of the camera and the audience goes I am marvel jesus.

Shaun:

He said the trailer that moved past it you know, it'd be awesome if he took off his mask for one scene there and just looked just like jesus.

Nate:

That would be funny uh and I mean it's actually kind of funny too, like, uh, yeah, I just recently was hired at the post office and I went through a little post office academy and the guy who was one of the trainers there, he's like he talked about how he's a big geek and how he likes Star Wars and Marvel and he was like I'm gonna go see the Deadpool movie. I'm like cool, he's actually out in the middle of nowhere, like he's normally stationed, like just it kind of like from what he described is very similar to like around your area.

Shaun:

Um, just a whole lot of you know very rural. Yeah, my route covers 12 houses, over 60 miles of turf, kind of yeah and so yeah, but he was like he came in the next day.

Nate:

He's like. I saw deadpool, what'd you guys think I'm like? I loved it. You know it was a perfect movie. No, but I I've thoroughly enjoyed it. He's like a little too crude for me. I'm'm like, ah, well then you, he's like then you obviously don't watch too much Deadpool. He goes, if I brought my wife with me, I'd be really embarrassed. I'm like, well, I guess it's a good thing you bring your wife, but also, just come on, man, lighten up.

Shaun:

Because, I mean they definitely, they were definitely try to top it, okay, I mean so I guess, if you weren't expecting it, if you thought like deadpool 2 was the top of the uh crudeness charts then.

Nate:

Oh yeah, no 100, they. They went for. They went for it and was actually it was fine. You know it didn't feel out of place, you know it didn't feel like it was too far. I mean, they definitely they pushed the boundaries as far as they could and, um, it's still. The way I was thinking about it was, if you're trying to go into this movie thinking about how this is going to be a serious movie, even like a serious movie with some comedy that's gonna bring it all together, it don't, no, don't do that, yeah it was this was a um profanity filled love store, love note or, like you've not even love note like a lust note for marvel properties across the board.

Nate:

You know, and that's basically what it was you're gonna get it.

Nate:

Yeah, the cameos you know there are a lot of cameos. All of them felt like they, they belonged, it was, it did. No cameo there really felt like oh well, they do that. You know, every, every, they all felt nice. It didn't feel cheap. You know, if you want to, if you were wanting to feel cheap, then you can feel that way. That's fine. But it seriously, like all the cameos they brought out didn't feel like quick cash grabs. You know they were, but they didn't feel that way and yeah it. Even they were, they they weren't on the very long. Most of the cameos were like barely a couple of minutes long.

Shaun:

And they like what they do, those dumb cameos where it's like oh hey, that's so-and-so from alpha flight, let's discuss his origin story for 30 seconds. 45 seconds derailed the entire story yep, there was none of that.

Nate:

They actually was kind of funny because puck is a small canadian from blah blah blah. You're like oh, shut up yeah, well, one thing about it was I really I appreciate was they're like you either get it or you don't. You know, that was a lot of a lot of the cameos or a lot of the kind of throwaway gags. They put this in there and if you didn't get it, well then this wasn't for you yeah, you know that's that's.

Shaun:

That's on you, not on us.

Nate:

This cameo is perfect so I mean I really wish you had seen it, because I would love to go over certain cameos.

Shaun:

But oh yeah, it's fine. I'll probably see in the next couple of days.

Nate:

Maybe that's good I mean, one of the nice, one of the nicer cameos was also there are a bunch of cameos of so he goes looking for this is a big spoiler, it's he's they part of trailers as well. Um, he goes to look for a wolverine and so he goes through. Um, basically a lot of of comic book versions of wolverine that you'll be very familiar with and you just got a chance to see a live action version of them and it was just and I'm sorry, multiverse popping, I'm guessing yeah, oh, yeah, oh.

Nate:

But just touch on a spoil one, you'll live with it. It's it's like a, literally it's 20 seconds of the movie, you're it's not at one point he visits up. So I've mentioned before in this podcast when the big comic book runs. That brought me back comic book was the age of apocalypse. I loved age apocalypse, um. You know I'd fallen out comic books in the 90s. I rediscovered it through the x-men series, age of apocalypse. In that series there was a wolverine, um, and he looked pretty cool in the comics. When you see him in real life, or you quote real life, but when you see him in live action, I think he was probably the gayest looking one of all the time. I mean just he popped in and the way maybe it was just a picture of his leather daddy.

Shaun:

Uh, wolverine, yeah, oh, is it the one with the eye?

Nate:

patch. No, that's not that one, that's okay. Age apocalypse. He's like full black, like skin, tight black leather, no sleeves, with a big kind of red v on his chest. His hair is insane, like it is way more everywhere than the others. I mean it looks like he's wearing um, fucking uh, cinderella 80s az music band cinderella wig, black wig, and he's leaning up against the wall. The way he's leaning against the wall. He's very straight backed. He's got like with his lip, just it. It looked like he was making this, that he. They threw him from abercrombie and finch like cover and you know. Then he proceeded to, like, you know, beat the shit out of wade, but it was again. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was hilarious. It was really nice to see that version of him on there because I had like a just a nostalgia boner for that version of wolverine. But man, that I'm glad they didn't roll with that in the movie because he looks super stupid in live action.

Shaun:

It did not work if you remember or not, but uh, did wolverine have sleeves throughout most of the movie on his uh yellow outfit? No, didn't, because here's the thing, I learned this on one of my special effects, uh, youtube channels, apparently the early previews. Wolverine has yellow sleeves in that. But I guess the fan feedback was backlash on it was pretty substantial, so they actually went in and cgi'd the sleeves off of them and, like, put cgi arms in a lot of scenes. They did a really good job and so you really can't tell. But I guess, yeah, if you see a sleeveless wolverine, odds are they uh, did that in post-production oh yeah, sure enough.

Nate:

I do see sleeves on him. I didn't know he was I guess in the yeah.

Shaun:

But if you go to the very first trailers that popped out, he's got sleeves in all of those. And then the fans are like we don't like the sleeves. So they're like, hey, we'll take them out.

Nate:

Yeah, I've seen some still shots of him with sleeves and he does not have sleeves. Well, did he Now that I didn't really even notice? Did he have sleeves, like in the early? Okay, he was Okay, he did have them in the original. Okay, he was okay, he did have them in the original, like when he went and grabbed them and he had the sleeves on. And when he first shows the yellow suit he had sleeves. But I guess they he lost them in, like during the movie. Yeah, I didn't even pay they lost them.

Shaun:

Yeah, I need to go back. They just fell off at one point. They were vestigial sleeves. I really do. Once Wolverine matures, they just fall off of them that vestigial sleeves. Once I really do, I'm sure they just fall off of them. Uh, that's gonna be bugging you the rest of the day. You're gonna be like it is like did he have sleeves? Did my god? Because your brain is telling you one thing and the pictures are telling you something else.

Nate:

You're just like I know I remember him having sleeves, like are not having sleeves. But now I'm looking at these pictures I'm like, wait, did he have sleeves? I don't know, but most, how about this? Most of the movie he did not have sleeves. I don't know how about this Most of the movie he did not have sleeves. If he had sleeves earlier in the movie, then you know, but I don't remember having sleeves. But yeah, I'm seeing these images that are making me question it.

Shaun:

Just so you know, if you saw him without sleeves, those were not Hugh Jackman's real arms. Oh, there you go. Yep, for what that works, I mean. Yeah, anyway, fun also. The main thing is, uh, other than a few areas where you can really looking, you can tell they did a really good job of, like you know, blending in the fake arms yeah, I mean, and I don't know also like I'll look at the cordial crew where they talked about it, his mask looks good sometimes and not so good other times and there was a couple times, um, in the movie where he it looked good and again I'm reiterating, I love movie.

Nate:

But there was several times during some of the fight scenes, and especially with Logan, I mean I was like okay, am I watching a big-budget movie or am I watching a cut scene on a PS4 game?

Shaun:

It's just, there were a couple times where I know what you're talking about, where it really takes you out, and all of a sudden you're just like wait a minute, what? What happened? It's like the budget gets cut in half or you transport back to like the early 2000s for like two seconds with that quality of cgi and you're like, huh, yeah, it was.

Nate:

It was a couple times it was a bummer where it's like, oh man, it just doesn't look as good. But you know, still it. For what the movie was, it was really good. And I liked this version of wolverine because this wolverine isn't, like you know, the one that we got to know and love through all the x-men movies. They, um, they established in the first few seconds he is truly dead, he's gone, like that wolverine does not exist. So the wolverine they do get, they really they establish like, okay, this wolverine is like they. Again they say in the trailers he's the worst Wolverine, he's a piece of shit.

Nate:

So a lot of the stuff that Deadpool kind of gets away with, wolverine's like yeah, but at the same time he lets it happen Because he just sits back for one particular character I'm not going to mention For one particular character, actually a couple of particular characters. Deadpool, while isn't the killer straight up, gets a couple of characters brutally murdered and it's entirely Deadpool's fault, even though Deadpool wasn't the one who killed him. He absolutely is at fault. And Wolverine just kind of stands by, lets it happen. Then kind of comments later that was shitty.

Shaun:

And then Deadpool looks at the camera and does the Home Alone face and be like ooh End scene, I don't know scene.

Nate:

That's how I picture it going for cussing at least this Wolverine's cussing from the jump. So yeah, it's just kind of nice. They're both foul mouth pieces of shit at times. The second time, when it happens near the end, when this particular Deadpool makes choices that directly lead to this character's brutal demise, it's funny obviously. And then when you find out why he did that, it's a nice bow tied to an earlier.

Shaun:

It's just a nice cherry on top.

Nate:

It's like a Chekhov's gun, you know where it's like. They bring it up early in the movie and they heavily implied during that initial thing Like I think we all know where this is going. And then the rest of the movie goes on and you forget about it. It just kind of slips your mind, you know. And then when it comes up again you're like, oh right, he did say, he did heavily imply that he was going to do that.

Shaun:

And then I just picture you in the theaters, like adjusting your monocle, and be like oh, very clever indeed. Oh yes, yes, yes, very good.

Nate:

So I will. I'll enjoy the movie better the second time whenever I watch it. Either be at home or go to the movie theater. I doubt I'll go to the theater again, but when it does come home, cause I really did enjoy it. But there it is, that initial like you're in the movie theater, it's all happening, you're seeing it for the first time, you just kind of miss things. So I'm looking forward to watching it again.

Shaun:

Yeah, and movies like that usually have just a lot of stuff crammed in that you're going to miss.

Nate:

Yeah, and you know I do. Um, it is a bummer that some of the things weren't surprises. Ryan Reynolds was initially not going to show Wolverine's yellow suit until just before. I think his dream was to hold off on the yellow suit until the movie actually came out, but people were taking pictures from production.

Shaun:

Yeah, stuff leaked out instantly.

Nate:

Yeah, nowadays keeping things under wraps for even some of the cameos, like I was pleasantly surprised that, um, I had I had avoided the spoilers because there were a few people who showed up like, oh shit, I can't believe this person's there so what a surprise.

Shaun:

As you again gesture monocle go. Oh, very good, very good, yes, yes, yeah and unfortunately.

Nate:

at this point, though, like I'm glad I'd seen it, because at this point there's I mean, it sounds like you've mostly avoided it, but if you're paying attention at all, most of the cameos should be spoiled to you by now. So if you're avoiding it, then good on you.

Shaun:

Yeah, I literally know nothing about the movie other than what you told me today. Awesome. Well then hurry up and go, because I'm dying to talk about stuff. Yeah, I can tell, because you talked about it for the last like 10 minutes. I know, see, right, we'll put in a spoiler warning before this.

Nate:

Yeah, I mean I didn't spoil much, but I did mention a couple of things. So yeah, I'm going to put a spoiler.

Shaun:

Yeah, and I'll just be like, hey, just fast forward. I don't know until point, point time, but I'm glad to hear it's a good movie because man the uprising would have been real bad.

Nate:

But yeah, it is not a perfect movie. It is very enjoyable. It doesn't look like at least for now, it looks like this may be the last Deadpool movie, which would be fine, honestly, if they end on this one. They absolutely left it open for future Wolverine Deadpool adventures. I doubt they're going to do that, because they really. I love Hugh Jackman. He's amazing. He's one of those rare creatures. He actually looks better now than he did the first time he played wolverine. You know like I don't know how that, how he got, how he did that, but he did so uh looks a little more grizzled in his old age looks more grizzled and just more cut like dude, like when you first see.

Nate:

I actually have a picture of him in his first showing of wolverine. Right now his hair doesn't isn't quite right. It looks, you know it's close. It's close, you know, when it came out it was close enough, but it, you know it wasn't the wolverine hair, we know you know he would. Did he have muscles? Yeah, sure he had muscles, but he's still like he didn't do that thing where you know you see all the muscles likeging out of there with all the veins and stuff. He just looked kind of normal. Yeah, he's a regular dude with muscles, but as he's gotten along, particularly when the Wolverine movie came out and then he really started beefing up what's up, I'm doing my powder casting Faster, faster. Anyway, main point is he looks better now than he did then and Eve is still dude's like old now and hey how old is he Question?

Shaun:

Another fun special effects thing One of the very early pictures of Hugh Jackman doing Wolverine, it was kind of like he had an undershirt on and his claws out and he's kind of like flexing his muscles and he was just totally jacked. Yeah, the way they actually accomplished that is in the original photo to get his muscles to bulge that way they actually have him holding giant concrete bags and they had him hold it there until his muscles started to pop. Then they took the picture and they edited out the concrete bags. That's why his muscles look like there's so much strain, because he's actually holding like sacks of concrete at the time, which picture I'll see if I can dig it up. It's like one of the very first uh, wolverine photos.

Nate:

Hold on, okay like from the from the first x-men yeah, okay, okay, I thought you're talking about like some of the later ones, like I don't know. That's pretty fucking jack. He's 55 years old now, so again, he's not super old. But probably should go ahead and hand the reins off to somebody else.

Shaun:

Play wolverine he's over halfway to being legally dead, from what I hear. Yeah, did you ever hear that? Oh, yeah, some people like if you reach 100, you're legally dead.

Nate:

That's true, I don't, that is yeah, I took uh for a brief, brief second. I actually considered going to insurance, um, and I'm really glad I didn't. But I actually went to like a class and a court of interest not legally like you know, they're not you, it's not like the courts go okay, you're gone now, but per health insurance they need to put a number. It is you know, for all their algorithm stuff. They need a number when someone will be dead and so, as default, insurance lists a 100-year-old as dead. So if you're 100 years old, you can actually cash in your life insurance policy as if you died.

Shaun:

So that is, uh, 2004 and previous thing. Apparently they've changed it since 2004. Oh really, there you go. Yep, there you go. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, I guess just due to the fact that, um, there's so many people turning 100 recently, which actually kind of leads us into our next story, if you would like.

Shaun:

Uh, a senior citizen home in Italy has been doing this thing where they like bring in 100 year olds, you know, just as like a giant meeting kind of thing. Well, apparently they recently set the record with having 70 100 year old people under the same roof. That's a lot of remember back when we were kids and it was like a huge deal that somebody reached 100 years old, and nowadays it feels like there's just 100 year olds everywhere. But, yeah, an Italian retirement chain's annual gathering of centenarians broke a Guinness World Record when 70 people who are at least 100 years old attended this year's event. So apparently it's a retirement home chain and I guess they just take all their oldest people and just wheel them under one roof for a day and then they kill them all.

Nate:

Which?

Shaun:

could actually be seen as old people abuse, depending on how into it the old people are. Very true, yeah, I'm like looking at the picture now and it's a lot of people in wheelchairs who kind of just look there. They were probably wheeled into a room and just like sit here for a photo opportunity. In fact, I can actually link if you'd like.

Nate:

Oh, going back one. I just sent you a picture of uh hugh jackman as a hugh jackman as young, and then now text or on discord.

Shaun:

Oh, there it, there it is. I had to actually type something. There it is, it showed up. Yeah, that's what Trin will do for you. To be honest, trin, yeah, it's basically oral steroids. You don't have to inject yourself anymore and they're pretty common. You want to know what the sad fact is? It's pretty much all the Marvel stars are on steroids. They do?

Nate:

I mean you can't look. I mean I guess you can Like, oh, but we have. You know, we have it's a lifetime of weightlifting.

Shaun:

Not, hey, I got in shape one year before my movie shoot, shooting, kind of thing, Right, I actually watched a nutritionist guy that I watch on YouTube. He kind of broke down evidence on why they're all on steroids. And every Marvel actor. When they get asked in interviews like how'd you get in such great shape, Every one of them says the exact same thing oh, it's boiled chicken breast, brown rice and broccoli. That's all you eat around the clock, that's it. But apparently, if you like, punch that into a nutrition calculator. You'll wind up anemic if you just eat just that.

Nate:

Oh yeah.

Shaun:

Yeah.

Nate:

You won't build any muscles. I know Henry Cavill, but then again he's. I believe him more because he's always jacked. So I see, I think he actually does work out. But he was talking about whenever, on the Witcher, like he was going to do a shirtless scene. They actually made him not drink water for like a week. He could only take small sips, so he was starving for water to make the skin thin so the muscles bulge out more.

Shaun:

That is exactly how all bodybuilders do it. The day like three days or a few days, before they uh go in for their bodybuilding shoots, they literally stop drinking water, they stop eating and they basically uh dehydrate and starve themselves to the point, almost to the point, of kidney failure. Sometimes they will actually have renal failure because they dehydrate themselves so much. Oh good man, I guess on the days of their shooting they look their best but they feel awful, and it can take them like a week of like basically feeling like crap before they even feel normal again, just because they literally bring themselves to the brink of starvation, their kidneys shutting down, just like you said, to get that skin, like skin, tied around your muscles and look good there was a time, like when I was, uh, in the 20s, I was like wanting to get all jacked and I actually thought, oh, I'm going to go.

Nate:

We went to GMC or whatever and we were going to get those pills to make our muscles. And the guy's like, don't do that, because it did exactly that. It just dehydrates you, it doesn't help your muscles at all and if you get a glass of water you kind of spoil the effectsus immediately. So I'm like, oh well, okay, I guess I won't do that.

Shaun:

Here's another story I learned. So back in the 80s there was a bodybuilder named Dorian Yates. I guess if you look up pictures of him it's impressive. But I guess he got down to like one of the lowest body fat percentages ever, of like 2%, and he had such little body fat that it was basically just organ fat. And also he had no subcutaneous fat, the fat right underneath your skin. So his skin literally sat straight on top of muscles, uh, and he had the. His skin had the texture and feel of sandpaper, because there wasn't like any of that padding underneath it.

Shaun:

Yeah, and on top of that he had so little fat that we he had no fat on the bottom of his feet. So he's basically walking straight on bone and and apparently when he was doing his like bodybuilding stuff he was in constant pain because he's just basically walking on feet, bones. So there you go. If you lose enough weight, it hurts to walk around, yeah, clearly. And also he's got one of those physiques you're like well, that's impressive. I don't know if I'd want that physique myself Impressive, most impressive most impressive.

Nate:

Yes, yeah, again, it was a dude doing steroids. So, speaking of dudes, and you know, not really steroids, but like you, you hear about that. So, okay, let me go back a little bit. So I was in my class for the uh, you know, for the whole post office thing, like hey, here, do this, and so, oh, I heard the thing go.

Nate:

I was like oh no, we got cut off. Um, so we were talking about. What do you not talk about in, you know, at work? And one thing you don't talk about is religion. Another thing you don't talk about is politics. And the third thing you don't talk about is sports, because people around here can get really shitty about the sports.

Shaun:

Christ that dude? Oh, the Dorian Yates picture.

Nate:

Yeah.

Shaun:

Actually there's even bigger pictures of him being even like slimmer. It's very unnatural looking, to be honest.

Nate:

Like limber, it's. It's very unnatural, looking to be honest, like dude, what are you doing? Uh, some, some fat is necessary. It's like talking my daughter like the oldest, she's all concerned about her weight. She's like I would lose weight if you lost any more weight. You'd be a fucking skeleton. But like it's same same thing with him, like dude, there's such a thing as good fat, you know, and oh, you need you.

Shaun:

You need it to function everyone look up pictures of a strange-looking dude, dorian Yates. I shouldn't say strange, because I mean he worked very hard on that body.

Nate:

Well, he could be still strange. Just because you put work into it doesn't mean he's not as strange-looking. It's like that dude who did all the surgery to make himself look like a cat. It's like just because he did all that work to make himself look like a cat doesn't mean you still don't look like a fucking freak. And I told myself I wouldn't cuss as much.

Shaun:

But I guess I'm doing okay a little bit, but still I'm not doing great uh, the news that came out just today apparently, um aerosmith was doing their farewell tour and steven tyler blew out his voice, so they're ending their tour early.

Nate:

Yeah, yay, ha you're like fuck aerosmith I it's funny like I don't necessarily hate them for any reason. My biggest animosity towards them is because of the Armageddon soundtrack, and I was working at a movie theater at the time, and so when I think Aerosmith, I always think, yeah, I think of like.

Shaun:

Yeah, that song was annoying because it was everywhere, non-stop.

Nate:

And then there was that Aerosmith video game I saw. I mean, that's not. I think, think of that too. But my first thing I think of is me being stuck in the lobby of a movie theater listening to the song for a thousandth time that day yeah, oh god, yep.

Shaun:

Once the song gets overplayed, it's just like poison, to my mind and just like um, I have a similar thing with spider-man 3.

Nate:

I can't really watch it, first of all because it's a god-awful movie and I hated it. Um, but like when I was working at gamestop, the spy and they had um the ps3 out, the movie they used to demonstrate blu-rays was spider-man 3 and they played the spider-man 3 trailer every five minutes for my entire shift and, my god, it's like I hate spider-man 3 and again I hate spider-man 3. Anyway, it's a terrible movie. Um, it makes me angry when I watch it, but now it's like that I get stuck to watch the trailer over and over again.

Shaun:

Uh, no bueno yeah, that it's against the Geneva Convention, I believe.

Nate:

I've only walked out of a few movies, but a lot of them still stick through. I didn't walk out of that one for the main reason I had gone to the midnight launch of that movie and I was stuck smack in the middle of the row and I drugged Jenny out to see this thing. So I was like not only am I going to have to get up and get out of here, like trying to navigate through all these people's legs and have to drag jenny behind me, who didn't want to come in the first place. So then I'll have to deal with like I told you. So I guess I guess I'll watch. Uh, fucking goth.

Shaun:

Uh, peter parker, do dance moves, I guess uh, yeah, I never actually watched the third one. I think, much like x-men, I watched the first two spider-man, then the third one came out. I was just like huh you should.

Nate:

But okay, I say all that actually you should watch it, we should watch it together, we should watch like this get. We should get inebriated and watch it and like make fun of it because it's not so bad?

Nate:

it's not so bad, it's unenjoyable. I'll tell you that a lot of my anger from that comes from what they do with the characters, and I have particular love for some of his characters, particularly venom, but it's also so. It's bad from that point of view. It's also bad from a writing and acting and you know how it's shot, so it's, it's also like that. But again, it's not so bad you can't enjoy it. It's. It's if there, knowing oh okay, we're in for a bad movie, let's enjoy ourselves. It's great.

Shaun:

Gotcha. Yeah, you can enjoy the eye-rolling moments. It's not like you're propping yourself for being like Citizen Kane. I'm going to go see. Oh my God.

Nate:

Like, I have a character. Okay, this character is bad in the beginning, oh look, oh now he's good like god. If the whole movie was just about this guy, even that would be a lot. But this is like a side character. We don't need all this stuff for a side character. Oh, hey, look, this is the most one of those beloved villains of all, spider-man. Let's introduce him on the sly, then let him fall off the screen. For a long time we focused on another villain no one gives a shit about, except for the director you can tell he's.

Shaun:

You can tell the only reason he's there is because he's the director liked him as a kid. Be like. That's my villain.

Nate:

I'm gonna make him in this movie he openly said he didn't want venom in the movie. He's like I did not want venom, I want a sandman and I wanted, wanted Green Goblin. He really just wanted Sandman. No, he wanted Sandman and the Vulture but they made him drop the Vulture so they kept Sandman and then the Green Goblin was in there for whatever reason, and then Marvel forced him to get Venom, so they totally did him dirty, barely paid attention to it. He was, like I said, a side story at best, like what one of the things about venom is. He's a big, hulking figure and venom and this one's like basically a he's the same size as spider-man and which is totally against the uh origins of venom which is, which, again, is part of.

Nate:

But yes, even if you want to forgive the fact he doesn't look like he does in the comics, I can, I can live with that. That's fine, because the idea of having a dark version of Spider-Man look the same way, except he's black, that's another interesting thing. That's not Venom, but that's Venom basically is originally was hey.

Shaun:

Spider-Man is what happens when a cowardly nerd gets superpowers? What happens when the school bully gets the same superpowers?

Nate:

Yeah Is essentially what.

Shaun:

Venom was yeah. It's like, well, we're going to flip it on his head. Now, the big bad bully you picked on everybody has superpowers. How is you going to react? Pretty much how you'd expect, but now Venom's kind of like a good guy in some origins.

Nate:

So which is fine. I mean again, he's actually still, he's like the dark.

Shaun:

He's kind of like a gray area now. It's like I'm carnage and I could. I can live with that. That's fine, I can live yeah, I'm actually okay with that, I don't really have a problem with it, this dude.

Nate:

But this guy, this eddie brock, was the dude from the 70s show.

Shaun:

Yeah, so eric foreman's running around as the evil, but it just man red foreman with the venom powers would have been pretty fucking awesome, that character and everything well, especially if he was that, especially the character red foreman, in the same kind of vein of a villain as he was in Robocop. Oh god he was. That's what I remember Red Foreman for Was that awesome performance in Robocop. He was such a good bad guy in that movie.

Nate:

To the point where, even when I see Red Foreman, I still don't see him as Red Foreman. I still see him as the bad guy from Robocop. Yes, I do too.

Shaun:

I kind of like thinking of the Red Foreman as being like the bad guy from Rotocop who like disappeared from the crime world and settled down in Wisconsin, and be like nobody knows my past.

Nate:

He's like I'll break my foot off your ass. Like no, seriously, I will kill you, then plant my foot in there.

Shaun:

I have killed more people than you have met in your life. Oh, by the way, to go back real quick, life insurance now expires at uh 121 years old. It looks like that makes more sense yeah, they actually they basically just take that table you're talking about and just slid everything up like a few years.

Nate:

That makes more sense I mean because that table I was talking about, that was. It was like 1998 maybe. Yeah, you know 99. Yeah, that it's been a minute since. Yep, yeah 2004.

Shaun:

They're like oh, there's gonna be a lot of hundred year olds coming up. Let's slide everything up to 121 and also go back to something we were just talking about. Um, the treehouse of horror. This year is going to have a uh episode where one of the little skits is going to be homer basically turns into venom, but it's because of his denim jeans that he loves so much and it's going to be called denim. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, that should be good. They even have a poster up. That's kind of cool looking of it. Yeah, I still need to see a second Venom. They made a second Venom. Yeah, I never even saw the first one. Oh, you've seen it.

Nate:

The first one's actually pretty good. It's not great. A lot of people really griped about it because it's come out recently uh, let's see, they're actually coming out with a third venom. So there's a, there's a. 2021 was let there be carnage, and which they introduced. Carnage, uh, and then venom. Another one's coming out called venom, the last dance that's coming out uh, this year venom the last dance.

Shaun:

I swear to god, they have last dance with mary jane as part of their uh ad thing.

Nate:

I'm just going to well, and you one of the big things that stopped me from watching the second Venom movie is I watched the um oh man pitch meeting about it. I'm like, ah, it sounds so bad.

Nate:

Ah pitch meeting and get the cliff notes of it. That's actually how I like I started watching um the star wars, um acolyte, and I'm watching it about halfway through and I'm like I'm not really, I'm not into this, you know. And that's the thing, like, when I say I'm not into this, I always have the preference like, look, I understand, there's a lot of people out there like ew, ew, lesbians. I don't give a shit about that. Yeah, I don't care about the most.

Shaun:

You had the best things to say about that show from anybody I've known that watched it, and even you didn't sound that. The way you phrased it was like. I'm enjoying it. I'm just waiting for something to happen, which that's like the most glowing thing. I've heard a lot of things too. They gave you no reason to care about any of the main characters, and that they're just all. Oh they died whatever, oh that person's obviously the bad guy.

Nate:

They all end up getting killed. And finally, I'm like I hate it when they're like oh look, here's this character who doesn't have all their powers, like that's. So Just give them the powers. Why are you dumbing them down? And then they Did?

Shaun:

they bring out a spoilers alert. Didn't they bring out a uh jedi wookiee and just kill it immediately too?

Nate:

immediately like there was no. I was expecting to spend on a battle. And they go and she's like. She's like oh, you have to kill this giant master without a weapon. Which again, why they? I didn't I never got an explanation why it has to be without a weapon.

Shaun:

But just to make it cool.

Nate:

And that way when they make the video game adaptation, it'll be a cool mission in the video game and I will say, maybe they explain it later on, like the episodes I didn't watch because I did stop watching it. I watched pitch meeting and just got the gist of it. Um, and I'm just I don't know.

Shaun:

Her stone house burns down. Her stone house burns down. I'm right does that happen in the show apparently.

Nate:

I have a big Star Wars fan. I'm totally fine with, you know, women having, you know, being main actors. I have no problem with that.

Shaun:

I just want them to be good, you know, and I don't if anybody described Acolyte by using the term woke. I usually disregard what they say pretty quick about it.

Nate:

I want. If they're supposed to be identical twins, then I want them to be identical twins for both the child version and the adult version. Don't give me one actor playing two parts of identical twins and then flashback to their childhood and have two different people playing. Yeah, they look similar, I guess, but they're very clearly not identical twins, so why? I don't know that that child labor laws.

Shaun:

We can't have identical twins on set for too long, oh my god well yeah there actually is some weird things with child labor laws no, I'm sure there is but if they can make, probably not in that situation I mean, that's the whole premise behind like was it parent trap?

Nate:

like sorry, we can't shoot Parent Trap now.

Shaun:

Because, god forbid, we have the same kid like play both roles. Back in the 60s, when they'd do that, they'd just give the kid some coke or meth and be like Ah work a 16-hour shift kid.

Nate:

All right, quick pause. I need to blow my nose. I'm starting to affect my voice. Okie, dokie off my lap, oh yep, okay, so I can't hold it anymore.

Shaun:

I can't breathe yeah, I know how that goes. All right, you want to learn something new? Apparently, um july 31st is national orgasm day, which is an offshoot of female orgasm day, which is august 8th now you know there's an international female orgasm day and a national orgasm day there you go anyways, you're welcome.

Nate:

Just things you learn when you're surfing the internet things you learn yeah, one thing about my surfing is I need to start like expanding out, because it's like my google keeps on going. Oh, here's these articles. I'm like I know I, I know I'm a nerd, but I don't want all like I do. I would like some news outside, just star wars and like casting and there's the algorithm.

Shaun:

When the algorithm decides you like something, it thinks you really like something.

Nate:

That's all you want they'll be like I got. I actually kind of had to start going don't stop showing these to me, because they're like oh, look at this cosplay of this character. You like, I'm like, I don't, I don't care yes I don't need to see that like.

Shaun:

Unless you actually show me what someone might be looking like in an upcoming anything, then sure but I always hate the headlines you get nowadays, too, where it's like experts are freaking out about this or you know people are having an uproar over this and it's literally just a link to like a Twitter feed of like three people arguing. You're like yeah this is the news story.

Nate:

Yeah, it's really hard to tell nowadays when an uproar is actually happening versus just someone you know being a karen yep, I try to spread it out more. Oh, my favorite is like uh, this person destroys this other person on this clip.

Nate:

I'm like okay, let me watch this it's uh, watch the clip and you know what I want to see is, you know, the person who's on my side says I'm so devastating. The person who's not on my side goes oh my god, you blew me away. Or like they have an embarrassed moment like, oh, I can't believe I haven't come back for something you know. Or like it's they, they say something so powerful that, like the other person, kills himself on screen. You know, just like they can't think of something to say. Everyone's looking at them, they feel stupid, they reach in their, they reach into their pocket, they pull out revolver and they blow their fucking brains out. That is being destroyed on screen, where you're like you can't imagine taking another breath because you are so humiliated by the power of whatever the other person said or did.

Shaun:

Politics would be far more interesting if you had to off yourself, if you lost a debate that bad.

Nate:

Absolutely would. There's a gauge. You could lose a debate and your life isn't at risk. But if you like, if they catch you repeatedly in a lie, there's like a ongoing, like live lie detector there and they like literally box you up, like courting you to be like I'm sorry, it's the person your debate gets who actually gets to put you down maybe, so that makes he knows like trump out back with Biden after that one debate, mr Smith, tell me about the rabbits, joe.

Nate:

Unfortunately, this is your 10th lie in a row that you've been caught on, Because it's not that you can't lie, you can't be caught in a lie. So you got caught, and this is your 10th lie in a row you've been caught with. You don't really seem to know how to dig yourself out of this. Unfortunately, you're now an old yeller status and we are gonna have to take you outside and shoot you the fucking head and uh, usually the your opponent can choose whether they want to pull the trigger or not.

Nate:

And I'm being told this that your opponent really, really wants to pull the trigger, like real bad, like to the point we actually a little concerned that this is actually her way of murdering you and also you should be concerned because this person has parkinson's and they might not have a steady shot so it might take them a few goes.

Shaun:

Uh, just letting you know. So an interesting world of news. Did you hear about that uh giant uh spy prisoner swap? Swap between Russia and a bunch of countries and this and that Was it spies? I mean? I know there's a prisoner swap.

Shaun:

Yeah, some of them were spies, some of them were this and that, anyways the one that I'm actually referencing to. There's an Argentina couple in Slovenia. They were convicted of spying and they're part of this giant exchange. Well, apparently it came out that the spy's kids had no idea they were russian or anything like that, just randomly, like hey, we're going to russia, they're like why you're russian? And the kids like what?

Shaun:

they were so deep yeah, they thought they were just like argentinian or whatever. They're just like hey, we're argentinian kids, blah, blah, blah. We come from argentina. And all of a sudden their whole world just got changed like oh no, your parents are spies, we're going to russia, you can go meet with putin.

Nate:

Oh that was so sad I mean hell yeah no, no, I was like what did the premise of that? Um, scarlet, scarlet, scarlet letter, black widow, no, black widow, um, but then I remembered to actually like shoot, they were in on it. Um, but yeah, like, oh, that was so bad. Hey, surprise, you know that country that you love.

Shaun:

Um, we're not part of that country, I thought that was kind of interesting, but yeah, that would be a total kick in the nuts. I think it says how old the kids are, but they look like they're like 12, 13 maybe I wouldn't. So apparently, like eight Russian spies were sent to Russia in exchange for 16 people who were held in Russian detention, including like former Marines and Wall Street Journal reporters. I mean, I know that they were pretty.

Nate:

They're pretty stoked to get that taken care of. Yeah, trump was all like I could have done that and they're like I know you know, say what you will about Biden, but he did have a good zinger. He's like well then, why didn't you?

Shaun:

Right, I mean people in person do that. It's like I could have done that. It Like well, you remember it is a good way to like completely like disarm them.

Shaun:

But yeah, I guess the two Russian spies were, uh, they were living undercover in Slovenia posing as IT businessmen and then they got caught, uh I don't know, doing spy stuff and sent to prison for a year and a half. Kids were disappointed and then all of a sudden they're like hey, kids, you're going to Russia. You know never. Oh yeah, and they don't speak russian either. Just so you know, they speak spanish. Oh that, oh wow, yeah, so they're. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Apparently, uh, putin said, bueno, snow chase to him is the first thing he said to him and gave him a hug. He probably then later shoved them out of a 12-story building right full of bullets, like I'm sorry.

Nate:

I felt that their death failed bullets somehow well, if you did like, okay, now go off, don't worry, we got you a nice apartment where don't worry about it. Got you a nice apartment when, don't worry about it, we got you a nice apartment, do you watch your really bizarre story coming out of Vietnam.

Shaun:

Of course, all right. So apparently an Indian national man was visiting Vietnam and he decided that I mean, did you ever get the urge to want to just have something giant and squirming up your butt? Of course you have, nathan, just like this man did. So apparently he took a two foot long live eel, jammed it up his butt and then plugged it in with a lime for sexual pleasure, but then the eel apparently ate its way through his intestines and into his chest cavity, where surgeons had to remove it from his body, along with the lime that was plugging him up. I will send you a link to the article right now, because it's I don't know what to make about it. There's pictures of the leech too, or the eel and various other things. So, yeah, they attempted to remove the eel through the man's anus without cutting him open, but it turns out, yeah, the lime was in the way, but, yep, the eel had bitten through the patient's rectum and colon to escape into the abdominal cavity. Look at stuff.

Nate:

Yeah, yeah, it looks like a giant tapeworm, almost kind of thing, but jesus, that that would be awful, yeah, yeah imagine and imagine. Like he doesn't like, like if he was in america, they probably wouldn't have the funds to get that surgery.

Shaun:

It's like well right, well, I guess I die yeah, I guess I'm gonna die here a little bit.

Shaun:

And then you're just on the bus next to a dude who's like not looking well, and this eel just eats its way out of his stomach. Dude, you'd have to go to therapy for years to get that out of your mind. Oh my God, that'd be so awful. Oh, I guess. Back in March a 12-inch eel slid up a 43-year-old man's anus and he had to be rushed to the hospital. So I guess, don't swim naked in Vietnam, because eels will slide up your anus.

Shaun:

The doctors say I'm just staring at it going, oh my god, yeah, I know, I know exactly what you're doing because you're doing the same thing I did when I came across the mic. Oh, they even have a picture of the eel stretched out next to the lime and, as the doctors say, eels can survive in anaerobic conditions for a long time and have the ability to bite through the gastrointestinal tract. They warn, therefore, people should never insert live animals through the anus to seek intense sensations due due to the unforeseeable consequences. Ugh, yeah, and you gotta wonder about the poor eel man. You're just like swimming around in a pond doing eel stuff and some giant, ape-look, hairless ape just grabs you and just starts feeding you up its anus. I mean, come on, it's not cool. It kind of also reminds me of Mr Slave from South Park.

Nate:

With the lemmy wings? Yeah, I was thinking about that. Of course, living Wings never became a giant fucking like hentai tentacle, yeah it does look like some sort of weird hentai tentacle.

Shaun:

Yep, four inches in diameter too. It was a decent-sized eel, so I'll let you stare at that and process for a moment.

Nate:

Oh, actually I was going to bring up something that I just thought of. So when we were at, as I mentioned earlier, we were in a class like never mentioned politics, religion or sport, and the next day this guy I was there with I don't know, I couldn't get a beat on this guy man, because one day he was saying how he went to a pride parade. The next day he was talking about how he loved shooting his guns and shot a boar in the head. I'm like, okay, I'm having trouble reconciling. Anyway, he busts out the middle class, like, oh, I'm so mad and reconciling. Anyway that he busts out the middle class. Like, oh, I'm so mad. And like, okay, what is he's like? Apparently there was a. Have you heard about this boxing controversy, the female boxing controversy? Yeah, so he was at the time. He's like this woman just uh, got hit and she like went down like crazy and apparently it was a transgender man. And so he's like I'm so mad about that and like, and the whole class shut up because no one want to talk about that. And then like I don't want to talk about that either because it's a very it's complicated.

Nate:

First of all, there's very few. That's the thing there's almost there. Statistically, there's almost no trans people out there. There's like one percent or whatever. And I don't know.

Nate:

I don't know the answer to this because you know, my daughter and I actually talk about this because it's something that it's on her mind. She's an athlete and she actually has several trans friends. None of them are on the in terms of like the sports part that there's. No, she didn't buy our team. She has no value doing that, but like it is, it's sticky. I have no answer for it because you know, I am, I'm a, very, I'm a I don't say closeted, I'm open.

Nate:

I'm open if people ask by. I'm not getting on a footstool saying, hey, everyone, I'm a progressive democrat, atheist. You know, like that's, you know, especially around here. You know, if people that's one of those things like people find out you're gay, they treat you differently. They find you're atheist, they, they treat you almost worse. And sometimes you know, I mean um, particularly like in the bible belt, which is where I am um, I don't, I don't say like, I don't want to go too far into it because it's so fucking sticky, but come to find out like it wasn't even a man, like she was a regular ass woman, transgender, nothing. Yep, yeah, she was a born a woman. She like had elevated testosterone. Like well, the females make testosterone, you know? And you, you're gonna really tell me that you're a boxer, a boxer to the point when you can get to the Olympics. You never Touch testosterone.

Shaun:

You know. So that country that she comes from it's illegal to be trans. They like put them to death or something like that.

Nate:

Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of countries like that, even Russia's like that, I think Also.

Shaun:

A fun thing too, if people really want to argue it. I mean, she was born with a uterus and she can give birth to a kid, and that's like every right wing dude's things like well, if you can't give birth to a kid, you're not a woman. And then, if they argue that, then be like so. Is there more than two genders?

Nate:

And she, like she gave him like 46 seconds and I'm looking at this picture like she just got full punch dead in the face. That's your, that's on you. You let yourself get you allowed as a professional olympic boxer, got in the ring with someone who's way taller than you and you got punched dead in the face. That sounds like a you problem. That you went in there knowing full well who you're facing, full well where you were, and you got rocked.

Shaun:

And then you're gonna turn around last year too, I think, or last olympics even, and I she apologized she apologized.

Nate:

She now says like oh, my bad, she's not really trans. I, I, oh, I apologize, but it's like yeah, if you're getting your ass kicked the first, you should immediately jump, like when my daughter runs for cross country and she comes in not great, she doesn't look around go.

Shaun:

Every girl who beat me are all men we're saying too apparently it's going back to just a giant big old russian misinformation campaign to piss off americans.

Nate:

Yeah, it's working around here, literally everybody in this town of facebook is fighting over it and of course it's like I'm sure, oh yeah, I'm sure, around there, and it's like you think it back off once you realize, oh wait, no, it's not, but it's just nope they just double down and then they find something else.

Shaun:

Be like. Well, here's another example of something I don't like. What about that? And it's like good job moving the goalpost.

Nate:

Yeah, look over there. I'm losing this. Look over there.

Shaun:

Yeah, or they'll come up with like some weird article from some news source that you know like an Eastern Russia outlet, and they'll this is true because it matches my thinking, my assumptions.

Nate:

This matches it, so it's true.

Shaun:

Yeah, people do like to have confirmation bias thrust upon them.

Nate:

And I mean I'm not alone in that. I'm not the only one who's like. Let me start over. Many people follow confirmation bias. I also am one of those people. I've definitely looked at things and saw something that matched my perception of the world and I immediately grabbed it and said look at this this is the perfect example of what I believe in and then that's exactly what I think.

Nate:

Yes, like this is exactly what I think. This is why everything is wrong with the world. If everyone would just look at this example. See, look at it. Look, oh oh, don't look at this example. Yes, this is a bad example.

Shaun:

I was, I did look closely enough ignore everything I said just a minute ago. I have learned, especially recently with news stories before you jump on a bandwagon, it's usually good to wait like two or three days for the other side of the story to come out, even if you agree with the side that came out first.

Nate:

Still always good to wait a couple of days, it turns out I, I have I have eaten crow enough to know that, like I start going through, like Googling, you know, like if I see something and I'm like, oh awesome, this, let's look around, I'll go. I'll actually go to, like Fox News, I'll talk like that, Go, okay, msn says this.

Nate:

I like MSN because they lean more. I don't think there's less of people accusing them of being because they're definitely things that I don't agree with what they say. But like, well, we can go ahead and say msn versus fox, they're definitely, they're not on the same spectrum, but I still go to fox because I'm like, okay, if msn is saying this, obviously fox isn't going to share their same political leaning and whatever they say is probably, if I take the two and mesh them together, at least I'm getting somewhat what to what really happened.

Shaun:

You know, I mean, I will say I do trust the msn facts more than fox facts, but I'm not so learned to look for inflammatory language inside of an article that can kind of tell you that they're setting up for something, because some articles are nothing but just like inflammatory rhetoric. It's not even news, it's just, you know, repeatedly just saying hate-filled stuff, sort of thing.

Nate:

I do try to lean towards the ap, because ap does tend to be a little more like in the middle of the road. Um, although they didn't really crack me up when the ap released, the last article I saw from ap was like no, jd vance did not have sex with the couch. And I'm like, wait, where people say that jd vance slept on the couch, like that, like I don't know, like that, that denial seems pretty um so nowhere from what I heard, I I from what I saw.

Shaun:

I guess he wrote a book a long time ago and made a joke about having sex with a rubber glove and between couch cushions yeah, people are just like must be true, but I think it is more of a joke than anything. Well, also, it could have been one of those. It's only a joke if people don't laugh at this point, it doesn't even fucking matter, it's one of those.

Nate:

It's one of those things where it's like oh, someone said something, whether it's true or not, and everyone heard it. It doesn't matter that you didn't fuck a goat. Everyone heard you fuck a goat and now, like you can't prove, you can't prove, you've never fucked a goat you can't prove it no yo. So what are you gonna do? No one can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that jd vance never fucked that couch.

Shaun:

So until his dying day or beyond, when he's dead, someone's going to come by with a Sharpie and write on his tombstone this motherfucker.

Nate:

Yeah, couch fucker. That's better than what I was going to wrote. Couch fucker is shorter and concise and to the point. Thank you, sean. I'll make sure when I visit his grave later on I'm going to write couch fucker.

Shaun:

Keep it short and sweet. Don't write like this big long thing.

Nate:

Just be like couch fucker, and I'm on no tape To where I got it from. I was going to say something a lot. I'm going to write this whole thing on there. I was going to say something a lot longer.

Shaun:

Here lies a man who one day found the term love seat to be very literal. Nope, just shorted out couch fucker. Yeah, like that much better. Here lies couch fucker vance yeah, they.

Nate:

He's never. Never getting out of that, just just like, uh, even not to this day. Oh man, I see I'm just about to say something. I'm playing on his name. What was his name? Uh, he ran for president. He was republican. They changed his name to like a dirty meaning um oh, santorum, thank you see, I thought I needed it, even to this day, when I hear said like santorum, like I know what your name means. It didn't. It didn't mean, like it didn't mean that when you first came out and run for office, but it means that now yep, we can thank dan savage for that one.

Shaun:

I guess the radio personality oh, really, that's a bit.

Nate:

Yeah. Yep, you gotta love when people like make you know changes to the the zeitgeist.

Shaun:

Oh, here's kind of a weird this. I'll break this up because it really reminds me of like spy versus spy. Remember that old mad magazine thing love it, yep. So miami real estate titan, who decided it'd be uh easier just to murder his wife than to get divorced, literally, has spent the last five years trying to murder her constantly and failing, but since there's no evidence, he couldn't really do anything and finally he just died of old age. So she gets everything. See, here it is Sergio Pino. He was they started investigating in July of 2022 for multiple contracts to kill his wife, dating all the way back to 2019 and continuing through, uh, his death. Apparently he just kept hiring hitman over and over again and somehow she would not get dead. Oh, he also would tamper with her prescription and stuff and uh taint her, uh, opioids and this and that you want to change uh actually quick time out.

Nate:

Yep, time click, click. Um, how much longer do you think we're going? Jenny's asking oh, we can be done now if you want.

Shaun:

Well, I would do one more, at least. Okay, game Informer is being shut down by GameStop.

Nate:

Well, I was going to bring it. No, go ahead and talk about that. Then I have one I want to talk about. Okay, no, go ahead and do your my page open and I saw something and I was like oh my, what is this? And I clicked on it and I'm like, okay, are you ready? Yes, this affects everybody. This is nonpolitical, this affects everybody and I quote this is from fortune to the magazine. Tech CEO says people will enjoy paying a monthly fee to use a mouse. Yes, quote, you're really going to love that. Unquote. Let that sink in. Paying a monthly fee to use a mouse, a computer mouse? Yeah, well, the idea is it's Logitech and they're saying like they want to make a quote forever mouse. So when you never have to replace but you pay for every month and you can only use it like there's going to be certain clicks and movements, you can use for a monthly fee.

Shaun:

So it's kind of like some stupid AI driven mouse that gives you like weird mouse shortcuts or something.

Nate:

Well, I guess the idea is from what I'm seeing on here. The idea is off the HP subscription service for a printer, which I have, by the way, and it's awesome.

Shaun:

All right, I was explained that real quick Cause I don't know about that. Okay.

Nate:

Is it like a service that just sends you more exactly? It's exactly what it is. So what they're doing is the idea is um, you're paying a subscription for. I pay a subscription for 100 pages a month, so I'm they're allowing me to print 100 page, a colored, full color, black and black, and whatever inks. Um, for a month, 100 pages for. So for $7, I'm paying for 100 colored pages. Now, with that, they basically just send you giant ink cartridges for my HP. It checks in, so whenever my ink starts getting low, they send me another box of ink. Now, if you actually take that and do the math for how fucking expensive ink is nowadays, it's a bargain. I mean like legitimately it.

Shaun:

Yeah, because it's even black and white stuff. I remember back when I used to have like an inkjet printer back in the early 2000s. That thing was so expensive to keep. Yeah, we holy crap, even just printing black and white stuff. It was, like you know, 30, 40 cents a page kind of stupid shit, especially when your ink card just crapped out halfway through and didn't use. All my god.

Nate:

Like cause we went to, we were using another printer and we will go to the, to Walmart Now by the cheap version. So they um a bigger version, a cheaper version. Even the cheaper version was like 25 bucks for the ink, for colored ink, at $25 for the black. So it's $50 just to get the. The lower end. The cheaper, like you'll run out faster version.

Nate:

I'm like this is seven and it's actually happened already multiple times where my girls are like, oh, the ink's running out. I'm like, oh, look at that, I have a box right here. Like I didn't even realize you came in and I just boop and there you go, like I right now I actually have a box sitting right next to me that came in the other day and I didn't realize it because they don't wait till you're out, they wait till you're low and so like I'm not even out yet but I already have my inks ready. So I really do like the HP subscription service for inks. So if I want to be a shill for that, if you print, that's the thing If you actually print. If you don't, then yeah, don't do it.

Nate:

But if you do print stuff, like I've been, I kind of fell off the wagon. I'm trying to get things up and running it. But when I was printing my stickers, often, yeah, I mean it was great and my kids use it for school, my wife uses it for her stuff and even like yeah, it's just, it really is nice to have ink ready to go. I don't know how goes through, uh, mice, mouse, mouses who goes through them that fast? You know, it's not like people have an issue of ink running out. People don't have issues of their mice running out. You know, yeah, it happens because it's technology.

Shaun:

Things break, but it's not to the point where I need to buy a mouse every so often I'd like my last mouse, going for about six years now I think, and I think the mouse I had before that probably lasted 15.

Nate:

So yeah, I mean the most recent mouse I got is the one you, uh, graciously sent me where it's like it's not. You can't hear why I'm clicking on it, but I have. I have several other mice like I actually let my kids borrow not borrow have because I just bought. We just bought them like laptops, so they needed mice, um, but they were all like 20 bucks, you know, and they still work.

Shaun:

I bought them years ago so, oh well, if you do this subscription thing, it'll pay for mouse updates.

Shaun:

It's like I can't remember last time my mouse got updated, like the only time I can think of like, yeah, the only time I can think of that is like people who have those like 200 gaming mice that have you know like 3 000 buttons on them and stuff, because some of those you can like download like new uh macros you can set up on them and stuff, and yeah, I mean like I know the, but like the mmo ones, like warcraft they had.

Nate:

Oh, we do this, but like just get used. I mean that would seem like it would be an unnecessary thing where, if you're, I'm sure you're used to hotkeys on your keyboard. Now you gotta retrain yourself.

Shaun:

Use hotkeys on your mouse yeah, some of those mice have so many buttons on them nowadays, good lord. I remember I think I saw one that had like 16 buttons on a total. Like eight of them were like where your thumb kind of goes. I couldn't use that I mean obviously it's it's for gaming, it's not for normal people like that would be.

Nate:

Yeah, I mean, I do think that one button, like the old apple mouse, which is like it's one giant button, that's too female, that's not enough anymore. Like I need the rollerball, so the rollerball, I need that um.

Shaun:

Apple had its one button mouse.

Nate:

That was stupid I need the, the rollerball and the right and left, click I. After that I'm good, anything more that you're just making it complicated.

Shaun:

Yeah, I will say I did have a thumb button on one of my mouses way back when. That was really cool because you could just use that as like a back button, real easy for like surfing Just click that and go back a page. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out about this whole forever mouse thing, but all I'm seeing like the head of Logitech brought it up being like we're going to have a subscription-based mouse and people are just like what does that mean? We don't know.

Nate:

Yeah, I've read this more. It's like it looks like they're like they really grabbed onto some CEO. Just go on. They're sitting back in the chair at the boardroom table. Someone goes, I don't know.

Shaun:

Like, what if we do subscription models for, oh, everything from you know software to a mouse and they're just like, oh, they're doing a mouse thing.

Nate:

Yeah, like everyone. Quick Keyboards, like he said this or she said this, like oh okay, oh no.

Shaun:

What so let's see. Faber mentioned that she had recently been shown an example of a forever mouse. The idea, she said, was that you would buy a well-made mouse with great software and services that you would constantly update and never throw away. Yeah, that just sounds like board meeting babbling. Yeah, I mean it doesn't mean they're going to try it, because I mean, was it Mercedes or BMW made it? So you have to pay to enable your seat heaters? Yeah, you got to pay like 15 bucks a month if you want your seat heaters turned on in certain cars. Oh wow, that's dumb. Yeah, and the dumb thing is is that your car literally comes with the seat heaters in it. It's a software thing that they just got to click over, so it's not like they're saving money somehow I mean, that's just like the remember the uproar, the dlc, what I mean.

Nate:

I can't remember what game it was, but like they charged for the dlc that was in the disc already, like it was in the release disc, yeah, but then they were charging. But what game was that? Remember? It was a huge fucking deal too. Like people were really mad. Was it the Star Wars Battlefront? Maybe it was a while ago, I don't know. It was so long ago.

Nate:

I don't want to sit here and like waste. It was Arkham. Return to Arkham. They had a bunch of special suits and it was a DLC on there. I think A minute.

Shaun:

HP still has the uh, that um printer subscription. According to this article on Marie on the Mouse, they're like. What really baffles me, however, is that we've already gone down this road. Hp tried out a subscription printer, then gave up on the idea after consumers revolted Huh, the idea. After consumers revolted huh, consumers revolted nate.

Nate:

They probably threw printers off the uh boss, like the boston tea party off of boats anyways, oh okay, I I found the article. It was.

Shaun:

It was a street fighter, x attack and it was a street fighter game oh like all the characters that they were going to try to make you unlock. Yeah, and we're already there people are you know how?

Nate:

yeah, gamers. It was happened in 2012, so I think this is it. Like gamers are already contentious and shitty, but street fighter, street fighter people I mean, I don't know. I don't really have too much of a feeling towards second, but just based on my um, my experience with the street fighter players specifically, they can be real shitty.

Shaun:

Yeah, they can I feel like almost any game that has like a professional circuit about them tends to like get some of the shittier players because there's like I can make money off this, yeah, being a dick. Yep, yeah, which I had real quick, oh yeah. So maryland retiree won the lottery ticket matching all five numbers and they bought the same ticket with the same numbers 25 times and won 25 separate times why would you do that?

Nate:

I?

Shaun:

I mean, yeah, it worked out the way they're making this sound like is like, if you get all the numbers right, you get like an extra bonus on top of it. So if you like so she was trying to like get the extra like ten thousand dollar bonus per ticket, sort of thing, but I don't know it makes sense. She buys anywhere between 20 and 25 ticks at a time, but with all the same numbers on it.

Nate:

It makes sense when you win, but if you don't win, it's stupid.

Shaun:

Yeah, over the years she has won smaller prizes by using the same approach. The number, of tickets she buys for each drawing varies, often reaching 24, but this time it was 25.

Nate:

We occasionally do lottery and Jenny's actually started playing lottery on like little mini lottery games on her tablet, which is whatever, whatever you know. If it makes her happy, that's fine. So she's better. It's not like she's gaming hundreds of dollars, um, but like my oldest daughter, she's like. You know, the chances of you hitting, winning the lottery are like getting hit by a lightning, like three times in a row. I'm like, okay, august, but what are the chances if you don't play the lottery at all?

Shaun:

it's about.

Nate:

If you don't play it at all, you don't yeah, yep, and I'm like it's 100 of shots you don't take and also like that that's for the jackpot, like I'd be happy like there's.

Shaun:

There are other tears. You can win 200 bucks kind of thing out of some of those.

Nate:

Yeah, I'm like or there's a couple hundred thousand dollars. So, like I go, obviously you tell me like, oh well, we didn't get the billion dollar jackpot, so we can't use a hundred thousand dollars. Like, if we want a hundred thousand dollars, that's game changing. Like we would be able to pay off all our almost all our debt, because jenny's school um education loan is insane.

Shaun:

Um, I think she still owes like 75 grand on her um yeah, school because the interest is more than the payment.

Nate:

Minimum payments on some of those well, we haven't even been making payments because we can't. We can't afford it. So it's just like it's not even getting paid off, just steadily getting bigger.

Shaun:

Yeah, fortunately my my can't get blood out of a stone kind of thing.

Nate:

Yeah, my school's all paid off, so it's. But then again I also only have an associate um, but yeah, I mean, just I, I play because I, I would love to hit jackpot, but I'm not aiming for the jackpot, I'm aiming, yeah, I'm aiming, for one of the other tiers. I, we could really use a few tens of thousands of dollars. That would you know. Again, that would that alone would get us back in black and we can actually start like making real moves. But until that time, yeah, you know it's like so, yeah, no, if I were the jackpot, believe me, like I would be over the moon, but that's not what I'm looking for and I would definitely not write several. You know, I'm gonna make a bunch of tickets, all the same number. I mean, the whole point is get several tickets with different numbers. That it makes you.

Nate:

But it worked out for that lady. You know, I say all this and like I'm shitting all over it, but at the same time it worked. That's jealousy, nate, it absolutely is, because in the end, like I here I am going fuck this bitch, can't believe she did it, but it worked it. So, like everything I said, I guess I can just shove it. My own ass just showed up there like an eel. Yeah it exactly I think. Yeah, I need to have that opinion removed from surgery or with surgery, because yeah it, 100% it worked out and news that we're probably better off not knowing.

Shaun:

Two more women have come forth about sexual abuse and assault by Neil Gaiman back in the 80s. So, that means for the last 40 years he's been sexually harassing and abusing women.

Nate:

Which I believe.

Shaun:

Oh, I believe it too. It's just a bummer, because he's such a talented motherfucker and I like his work, and now it's just like well, I like his work, but not him. You gotta like preface it with that Nowadays, Like ah, son of a bitch.

Nate:

And that's actually like that's. That's a big question, Like where? Where does the art separate? Yeah, I don't know, I just cause with certain people, I don't know. I guess it depends on how I feel about them, and it's not, it's not necessarily fair, it's not necessarily standard.

Shaun:

I just I don't know it can. It can taint the work too, cause all of a sudden, if you go back and start reading Neil Gaiman's early stuff and you're like, hey, this is all about an abusive they kind of your brain just associated like so I don't know, times on that, yeah, sad times for the women.

Nate:

I mean fuck neil gaiman, and because, right, right, it's been sad time for the women.

Nate:

But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to stand up for neil gaiman, because I mean here, here I am a white man saying this was you know, take with a great whatever salt you want to put on there, but like, still, like I can still consider us part of the victim, you know, because we really, I really enjoyed a lot of the stuff he's done. And then to come to find out, oh, by the way, this person you've I won't go so far, as I lied, I've never idolized neil game. I do, I, I do want to be an author.

Shaun:

I would love to be like yeah, you aspire to be as good as an aspire, aspire to be as good of a writer as he is. That's yes, there we go. Yes, thank you.

Nate:

That's exactly what I was trying to get. I couldn't find the words. I appreciate you finding them for me.

Nate:

You're welcome uh, I aspire to be him, but they just like him to find out. Oh yeah, by the way, he's a total, total piece of shit. It's like, oh yeah, I mean it's. You know. The first time I really felt this way is with uh cosby. Yeah, I really like his. His early comedy, like it was very clean and relatable even as a kid, like it was really, I felt, relatable even as a kid, even though here I was a little white kid.

Shaun:

Um, like actually he did. He was a good stand-up comedian.

Nate:

He was a really good stand-up comedian. He made you genuinely laugh without being vulgar. You know, obviously I don't have a problem being vulgar, but he was able to do without being vulgar and because that non-vulgar approach is why he was like america's dad.

Shaun:

Yeah, he, you know he was.

Nate:

I would think he was a pretty good, um, he was a pretty good, uh role model for him. Again, coming from my point of view. You know he was like his character. He seemed like a really clean comedian. You know he didn't really cuss, he didn't have a bad reputation yeah did shit on people.

Shaun:

Um, and he, uh, he played a character on tv. He had a bad reputation, not that we knew of.

Nate:

Yeah, he did shit on people and he played a character on TV.

Shaun:

He was in Leonard Part 6, the greatest movie ever made. I barely remember that movie Apparently it's like one of the worst movies ever made.

Nate:

Oh yeah, I do remember when someone got killed because a bunch of frogs went underneath their car and, like frog, jumped the car into a lake. Um, that's what that's like. Neck breakingly, change the subject, but still, neck breakingly, change the subject. But I'm glad you broke up because I was rambling. Ultimately, you know the deal. He had a huge reputation. I was. I was a fan as much as you can be, without, like, being obsessed with him, um, and then come to find out he's a rapist. It's like man.

Nate:

And so now you can't like sure, you can still watch the Cosby show, but it's kind of hard to now knowing what you know. And it's just we're all kind of like victims. Obviously we weren't victims as the women he raped. I mean, I'm not going that far, but it's still like we all have kind of a sense of loss.

Nate:

you know, particularly now with neil gaiman, because I did want aspire to be he was like the nerd version of bill cosby in a way not not at all, but I mean right, I mean he, um, he wrote a comic book that won like a, a huge award that made them stop taking comic books as submissions. I can't remember what it was with some sci-fi award that he won, like the Nebula Award or something like that, Something like that yeah, and they changed the rules so comic books wouldn't be taken anymore. Like he is such a prolific good writer and just really sucks to find out. He's a piece of shit.

Shaun:

Yeah, he kind of brought forth the quote-unquote adult comic books to the forefront again, again. Yeah, I mean Sandman With Vertigo and stuff yeah, sandman was great.

Nate:

Sandman TV show is also great. If you haven't seen it, I don't think you've seen it no. I do need to see that, though it's so good, I really need to wrap this up.

Shaun:

I think we're good. There's going to be a new Jay and Silent Bob movie coming out. If that makes you tingle your dingle at all Jay and Silent Bob's Store Wars where they're running a dispensary Sure, I'll watch it. Running a weed dispensary, I should say Awesome, yep, yeah, good times, all right. So that is the news, for recently we talked about a lot of stuff and it was fun. It was fun Also. We learned don't stick eels up your butt because they will eat the way out of you or do it. You can do whatever you want. If that is your thing, get full grown dead ones or dying. They gotta be wiggling around, otherwise where's the pleasure?

Nate:

Ask your vet.

Shaun:

Don't go to a doctor, they'll try to talk you out of it.

Nate:

A vet, on the other hand, they don't have morals Before sticking an eel Into your anal cavity, go to your vet first and look for the best available ones. Before sticking an eel into your anal cavity, go to your vet first and look for the best available ones.

Shaun:

Okay, go to the vet and have the teeth removed from that eel before you stick it up your rectum. Why would we remove the teeth of the eel? Don't worry about it. Why do you have an eel in a jar next to your bed? I call him Gummy Joe.

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