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Longevity Without Limits: Hormones, Muscle, Mind, And Meaning

Mike Sedita

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Ready to trade guesswork for a plan that actually fits your body, your goals, and your life? We sit down with Dr. Al Rabaina of Age X Clinics to map a practical path to real longevity—more energy now, stronger cognition, and fewer sick years later. No magic bullets here. Instead, think precision: full-lab workups, epigenetic clues, wearables, and VO2 max testing that reveal how you fuel, recover, and age. With the right data, care stops being generic and turns into a living blueprint you can adjust week by week.

We break down a simple but powerful framework—move well, think well, look well. Strength takes center stage for metabolism and insulin sensitivity, while cardio supports endurance and heart health. Hormones become a backbone, especially for clarity, motivation, and libido. If brain fog, low drive, or weight creep have been your normal, you’ll hear how balanced hormones, better sleep, and glucose stability can flip the script, particularly through menopause and andropause. We also tackle obesity medicine with nuance: where GLP-1s fit, why a comprehensive plan matters, and how exit strategies prevent rebound.

Dr. Rabaina’s story—from ICU childhood asthma to primary care burnout to longevity-focused practice—grounds the science in lived experience. You’ll learn why visceral fat is so dangerous, how indirect calorimetry and VO2 max guide training, and what community and purpose add to the healthspan equation. Most of all, you’ll leave with a mindset shift: aging is universal, decline is modifiable. Your health is your commitment, and the earlier you start, the more freedom you earn later.

If you’re ready to personalize your path, call 813-751-3570 or visit AgexClinics.com to get started. If this conversation helped you rethink aging, share it with a friend, subscribe for more, and leave a review to tell us what you’ll change first.

SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the Branding Highway Podcast, where local businesses meet the community and share their unique stories. Let's hit the road with your host and voice of the podcast, Mike Sedita.

SPEAKER_02:

Welcome to the Branding Highway. I'm your host, Mike Sedita, and today we have the pleasure of being joined by Dr. Al Rabana. He is the owner, doctor, occupier, practitioner at Agex Clinics. They have two locations, one in Apollo Beach and one in Bradenton. And uh Al, how are you doing today? I'm doing well.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you for inviting me.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, we're so glad to have you on. I know you and I have have kind of worked together in the community here in Apollo Beach already. I know some of the great things you guys do, but we're gonna we're gonna kind of bring it full circle and let the audience hear what you have going on and and try to bring some new folks into the clinic and so you guys can help them with their needs. So with that being said, start off by just telling us, give us kind of a summary of what is Ajax Clinics. What do you guys do?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, Ajax Clinics is actually a new brand name we uh given to our division of longevity and regenerative care. Um, it's mainly focused on prevention and treatment, implementation, and optimization of health for people who want to make a difference in their own life. So essentially, we help people to empower their own health journey and taking care of themselves with you know multiple approaches and from uh diagnostics to uh implementation treatments and follow-up, uh, club memberships, all types of uh different approaches to improve overall health and focus on living longer and living healthier.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so Ajax Clinics is like the fountain of youth. Like you're a modern-day Ponce de Leon here, we're trying to keep people healthy and have a longer, um, you know, more vivacious life as they go longer into their retirement or old age, if you will. Um if I come in there, okay, so first thing we're gonna do, like give me, walk me through. I'm 53, I'm a man most of the time. Uh I you're gonna walk me through the door and you're gonna do some diagnostic on me. You're gonna do like blood work and kind of check like how I'm feeling. Am I feeling the karate? Am I sleepy? You're gonna get like that diagnostic, di uh diagnostic on me. And then from what I'm understanding, what you guys will do is there's no one cookie cutter approach to having a cycle a particular patient. It's all very customized.

SPEAKER_00:

Very, very customized, very personalized. I do believe in in customization or personalization of health, and most of our uh health uh system is based on general population data, which is okay um for you know, maybe um some of the uh diseases that we are trying to prevent and treat, but it do not um make extra benefits for most of the people. And so we like to uh take a person and use their own health data from AIDS to uh with background and family history, and then we use uh multiple um laboratory evaluation, including um things like epigenetics, and um um we use uh uh enzymes uh um um quantification, we use a track health track system with wearables, and then we integrate all that. We sometimes we use a so-called CGM, which is a uh continuous glucose monitoring, and then with all that, we integrate a data and to the person, and we can predict and at the same time we can improve the the treatment protocol based on their own information.

SPEAKER_02:

So let me ask let me ask you this someone coming through the door, garden variety. I know what we talk about general data. Is it and I'm just gonna be kind of blunt here, is are most of the people coming because they want to have additional sex drive? Is it more like aches and pains? Is it like, I mean, there's a huge market for health and wellness clinics that do uh, you know, like really like the fountain of youth, like give you your for men, give us our vitality back. And because you know, 50 is the new 25 at this point, the way we the with the advances in modern medicine. Are people generating is it or is it more like skin and aesthetic type stuff, or you guys want to really handle that?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, um, you know, uh we have adopted a philosophy that learn from other uh uh you know people in the in the field, and essentially we are looking at three main things. We said if you really want to live longer or look younger, you have to have three good things. You have to move well, so you know, improving your mobility and physical activity and fitness is very essential. You have to think good. I mean, you you need to improve your cognitive and um sharpness, and at the same time, hopefully prevent cognitive decline. Okay, and then ultimately, but not um less important, you have to look well. So, yes, you know, the aesthetic regenerative part is probably one of the last phases of the protocol, but it's as important as the other ones because at the end, if you don't look younger, you don't look good, you're probably gonna feel good, you're gonna look better. So, yeah, you see, we integrate the three aspects of that uh philosophy, and some people do more ones than the other ones. Not everybody's the same, no everybody has the same um goals, and at the same time, no having nobody, no everybody has the same beginning. Some people are healthier from beginning and of the treatment, so they require less intervention. Some people require more work, more intervention, and more protocols to take it to the next level. That's our approach. Once again, it's very personalized, it's on the and the different situations uh that each person has, but we have people actually in the in the late 20s that you know the young generations start to feel more proactive, and so they realize I don't want to wait until 40s or 50 to start this journey. I think that the sooner that we start, the better. And of course, in these people, mainly the intervention is more like a prevention thinking, you know, health, uh, healthy diet, exercising, and good sleeping and meditation, that type of thing. Right. And then later on, then we probably add some what we call jetoprotectors or cellulytics, which are just more like supplements and medications that we use to help our protocols to improve these outcomes.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's really like get the body moving, get the brain active, and then the aesthetic part is like the third branch of it. So I'll tell you for me, you know. I mean, I uh I came from my story's a little backwards. Like you said, people start from different spaces. Like I see guys in the gym that you could tell their body frame, they have like that mesomorph body style, like where they were smaller, they put on muscle and they built up. I'm the opposite. So I was really heavy and I lost a lot of weight and then built muscle. So my body composition is different than a lot of other people I see in the gym. That stuff, I think, you know, if you put in the effort, you can work on that stuff. The stuff that scares me the most is the cognitive stuff because the effects of brain deteriorate, you know, deterioration, like I like read all these things about like what's reversible, what's not reversible, what type of supplementation can be included, things like NAD and things like that that are supposed to help with your not only the the body feeling better, but helping with your cognitive state, your emotion, and all those different things. And then I've even seen like perimenopausal women get like that brain fog where hormone replacement therapy really stimulates them, not just the physical side of it, but the the mental side of it too, where they clear that brain fog.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, so the the whole thing is that the brain side of it's the scariest part. I mean, when I I sometimes talk to my patients to explain to them, and I mentioned them, do you want to feel it the same that you used to feel when you were 20 or 30? Uh, most of them say, Yes, of course, of course. But let me tell you, the big, big difference between you now that you are 50 or or 60, and you before when you were 20 or 30 is hormones. You know, if we can't bring your hormones back to the youth level, you're gonna feel better, you're gonna feel probably like you used to do. They are just, oh my god, I want that, I want that. So, hormones is is a very uh essential part of all our treatments, and I think most of the people who practice um, you know, some type of wellness uh and health optimization, uh, hormones is usually you know the main thing that we can act, um, because we know that based on scientific data, that hormones uh have a most of the regulations of our functions, uh cell functions, including you know um the capacity to stay younger and to feel better over the years. The latest on longevity medicine is not just about putting more years to your life, but it's really to put more life to your years. Um so what we uh want to do and is not just extend the your life span, but what we call your health span, which is probably more important. We want to be able to compress that time of chronic diseases that we're all gonna have at some point. Some people have one, two, some people unfortunately have more than that, but we want to compress it to maybe the last few years of your life, hopefully, less than five years of your life, that you're gonna suffer from those chronic diseases. And the rest of the time, you're gonna enjoy a very healthy, productive life that you still can go around and do whatever you like to enjoy. Um, part of that is of course uh sexuality. We we we have a very deep questionnaire about sexuality, and we want people to understand how important is intimacy and sexuality part of this journey too, make you feel better and a complete um you know person. We also um uh you know use about community, um community living is very important. Uh, we know by you know starting the so-called blue zones that a community living is one of the most important aspects that distinguish those places from the rest of the world where people easily live up to 90s and 100 years old uh in those areas. So we want people to understand that it's not just about diet and exercising, there are many aspects that you actually can do to improve your life, and and at the end, also we're talking about improved humanity life because at the end, if everybody is able to do a little bit for themselves, it's actually improving humanity life.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean, like improving your life, but improving it through like an active lifestyle. I mean, that's why people retire to Florida from Minnesota and New York because it's cold and miserable up there and they're trapped.

SPEAKER_00:

We don't do that, so people stay on the couch watching TV the whole day, you know, right? It's it's um it's about getting active, getting, I mean, as you say, we are in a state that we're blessed. We can't fish 20, you know, every year around, we can go around and walk and run in the parks. We have a lot of open spaces that we can enjoy. So, yeah, it's it's about that, it's about improving you know your quality of life and and and extending and and giving you um a good healthy life, mobility, good joints, and good uh mental health, and you can improve your overall health. Uh, for people who like exercising and gym, we actually do a test called indirect calorimetry, which is the best test to really measure your basic metabolic rate, your uh VO2 max, which is the the capacity of your body to extract the maximum oxygen and use it in your muscles, because at the end, muscles is the main uh metabolic regulator of your body. So if you put muscle mass, like you did, you said, then you change your your body, and now your body is able to use a lot of fats, not just carbohydrates. Use a lot of fats and and you know, trim your body and and make you, I mean, and we know that people who put muscle mass, they're actually putting putting edges in your in their life, they live longer. We know that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so you know, you bring up a great point. I am gonna definitely replay this podcast for my wife because this is the conversation her and I have regularly. She's always been a runner, she's got a very lean body, she's thin, she's you know, and I keep saying to her, look, putting on muscle mass will go much go much further. Now your cardiovascular health is important. We get all that part of it, but putting that muscle mass on will combat the burning of the fat. It'll do it more, it'll give you better muscle tone. And every time I always say, unless you're trying to drastically lose weight, doing fasted cardio, you lose as much muscle, not as much muscle mass. I'm not scientific like that, but you're losing muscle mass within the fat burning that you're doing when you just do straight, like fasted cardio. So explaining to her, when you are five foot nine, 117 pounds, you don't need to do fasted cardio. You're not trying to lose weight. So I finally got her over right across the street, you know, up the street from you guys at Crunch, to where she is now working with a trainer who is guiding her in the proper protein intake. I mean, she was always good at the nutrition part of it, but trying to add muscle mass on top of it because you know, this is the joke I always loved because I used to be a big fat guy. So it was always like you know, working out and getting involved in it. Right. So people would say to me, they'd say, five pounds of muscle weighs more than five pounds of fat. And I would say, no, five pounds is five pounds. It's the composition of the muscle versus the fat. There, it's just dense muscle versus sloppy, sloppy fat tissue, but it's still five pounds. So you can put on that muscle mass, it's just how your body composition is. I love I this stuff I could dive into all day long, and now I've got ammo from a doctor to to win my argument with my wife. It's a bonus on this podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

No, listen, there is no question about in the last I will say 10-15 years, the the changes in mind that yes, aerobic and cardio is very good. We recommended about 150 to 200 minutes a week of any type of aerobic or cardio exercise for losing and maintain weight. Okay, but when you achieve your weight, yes, you do need to build up muscles. And muscles, if you build up muscles, you are actually improving your metabolism, you are reducing insulin resistance, and you are carrying something called the fat toxic uh syndrome. That's people like me that still building up a little of tummy, that's the problem because that visceral fat visceral fat that we not it make you sick, it creates any other problems with your metabolism like a like a fatty liver, pre-diabetes, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and heart disease ultimately. So yes, the putting is the best.

SPEAKER_02:

That visceral fat, right? If I understand it correctly, is it's almost sitting, it's not just like subcutaneous fat that sits on your body, it's actually surrounding your organs. So if you don't eliminate by creating that muscle mass, you're eliminating that visceral fat, and it's almost freeing up your organs to function more fluidly, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's it's um it's actually around your organs, around you all your visceral organs and in your abdominal area, and uh it produces uh something called cytokines or adipokines, which most of them are not good. They have pro-inflammatory effects, and and they are directly responsible for all the changes that uh obesity produces besides the fat itself. So uh we used to think of obesity as a mainly a problem with intake and and and expenditure of energy. Now we understand that obesity is a multifactorial disease, many, many factors. Some of them we can change it, some of them we might not, but um, we learned that we can contribute with different treatments to help people who are dealing with obesity. By the way, I am an uh what we call an uh diplomated of the American Board of Obesity Medicine. Um, so that's one of my specialties that was on the my actually, I would say my favorite uh uh topics, and um and uh we are able to help people from from my personal experience from you know dealing with overweight of obesity for years and trying different Jojo diets that at the end doesn't work, to realize that it's a mindset, you have to put your mindset to it. Once you do it, then you start changing your body, you start feeling better.

SPEAKER_02:

But you're also talking about like there's different brand names, but if you're really talking about semaglutide and terzepatide, like Manjaro is the brand name for terzepatite, like you all have their brand names, or like Ozempic is like semi-glutide, but you're a proponent of those drugs to help people.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, we do realize that we do support the use of those drugs and other medications that are also proof for obesity, either by itself or in combination, as a support, because in reality, the the science said that even when diet and exercises are the main pillars of any weight and loss program, there is not enough in 80% of the people. So 80% of the person will not be able to lose significant weight by diet and exercising alone. So, in those cases, we do support the use of anti-oves medications to help them during that journey, either short term or long term. But at the same time, we do use what we call a comprehensive management program, not just you know right, not just the not just a shot. You're you're putting the whole program together, exactly, and the program contains what we call an exit plan. But say, you know, when you cannot continue using the medication for any reason, because you develop side effects, because you lose too much weight, and you don't want to keep losing weight, because you think that you're losing hair, or because it's just financially difficult, then we have a plan B to exit and try to prevent you from going back to your flying weight.

SPEAKER_02:

So you're transitioning, you're having like almost like a step down if you need to step down on something.

SPEAKER_00:

We have a transition and plan, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

So, all right, we talked for 20 minutes on the different things you offer. I I could go into I could do that all the whole time. I'm gonna talk to you about VO2, Max, in a second, but tell me a little bit about your personal journey. I mean, where are you originally from? How did you get into this? I mean, you said you were a big guy too. Um, did you always want to be a doctor? I mean, did you want to be a fireman? And we're like, uh, this makes more money. Like, what was the

SPEAKER_00:

What was the real that's um you know I am originally from Cuba. I was a very sick kid with very bad asthma. Actually, I was intubated three times in ICU when I was a kid, and um so uh back then in the 70s, when I was a kid, the main treatment for asthma was uh prenosome steroids. Yeah, so I used a lot of steroids and antibiotics uh when I was a kid, and they blew me off. I was really a chubby kid. Um I was not good at baseball or any sports, so but then I spent so many days in the hospital that I started to know in medicine since I was a little kid, and I always see doctors as a big figure in my life, right? And you know, and then my my older uh sister, she she's a five years older than me. She went to med school before me, so it was another inspiration for me to follow her. And then um, when I graduated in of medical school uh in Cuba, um unfortunately I had some political issues with the government there, so I didn't want. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I decided to run away, so I did. I went to Mexico, stayed in Mexico for a year, and then come here to America after that, and then I came in 1992. I, you know, I was lucky to find a group of people that immediately helped me to start studying um for my boards. Also, I I was not completely uh oblivious to English. I I knew some English from from my medical career where I learned, and then I was able to use it. And uh by 1994, I already had passed my my board exams. And then I stayed five years doing the what I call general practitioner back in Miami, and after that, I went to Puerto Rico to complete a three year residency program in telemedicine and board certified in telemedicine, and I have been practicing medicine since then, here in the in the area, eventually at Lakeland, then in Brandon area and South City area. But, anyways, after years doing telemedicine, primary care physician in this uh region, um I realized that something is going on. You know, you keep doing the same. It's like the the everybody says about the concept of insanity that you expect a different outcome, but you keep doing the same. And then myself, I was burning out, I was gaining a weight, gaining weight again. Um, and then I was not exercising, you know, I have no time, I have no energy, I get excited, you know, looking for a downside justification, not just excuses, yeah. Yeah, excuses. And then I went to a conference for doctors like me, and I thought there was gonna be more about some type of um uh psychological, you know, brainwashing, but no, it was very engaging, and um, and they just essentially told me this is what we have to do to make you change, and at the same time, you will be able to change your patients with this approach, and that's how I get in touch initially what we call functional medicine and um and natural uh medicine, you know, things, and then I I like to integrate it both. I like to integrate the conventional medicine, which use medications, and I still believer of medications and and antibiotics when you need it and even statins when you need it. I do believe that they have a role on medical care, and then I like to integrate the functional medicine part. So I I like to practice the best of both worlds, yeah. Um and I think that being successful doing it and patients appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'll tell you, you know, I doing these interviews and talking to a lot of people that are professionals, in especially in the medical side of it, really the medical industry, especially here in the U.S., for most of the people I speak to is because of the insurance system, not so much the medical system, but because of the insurance system, what I find is a lot of guys like you, you know, that have all this knowledge that are that realize it's not one size fits all. There could be someone who needs you know medications for certain stuff versus this. This, for lack of a better term, concierge medical approach works really well for a lot of people. Because, like to give you an example, someone self-employed who owns a business, who makes money, pays so much money to have health insurance in the current system that a lot of people start to transition and say, you know what? I'm not gonna have health insurance, I'm just gonna have some catastrophe insurance if God forbid I have a heart attack and I have to be hospitalized or I have a bad act. That's a good way to do it. Right. And then for all the stuff I want or need, I am gonna see a doctor and customize my health and wellness around those programs. So let me ask you a question. So, you know, you have this very diverse background, this experience of traveling and going through all this stuff. I could do a whole other episode on just being in Cuba and understanding that. Because the one thing you said and all that that really blows my mind is I think of like a show like it's gonna sound stupid, but like a show like Gray's Anatomy or ER, where they have all these medical terms. And you now have to, you know, all these medical terms in Spanish, but now speaking broken English coming here, you have to now learn all these ridiculous terms in the English version of them to be able to, I'm assuming, to be able to pass your boys. That out of all the stuff you said blows my mind more than anything else. But I digress to say that if if I asked you, pinpoint for me, one of the biggest misconceptions you get, like people that come into the office, whether they think it, you know, Ozempic is a miracle drug or hormone replacement therapy cures all, or what what's the biggest thing where you're really educating a patient when they come in the door and really have to kind of have like a little call to Jesus, like, no, this isn't what you think it is, this is what it really does, type of deal.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think there is two things that we uh face it more often uh during consultations, and yesterday I have a one case, by the way, that actually um bothers me because I say it shouldn't be like that. Number one is you know, aging is natural and there's nothing that we can do about it. Um, so that's one of the things that I always say, well, uh, you know, the getting age and chronological age is natural, we're all gonna have it, hopefully. Uh you know, the the the the longer that we live, the better for us. But the changes that come with aging are not mandatory. Um we don't have to accept all of them. Um and not just now, but for years, we've been, I think, fighting the changes that come with aging, and um, because if not, um then uh women will never dye their hair, um, and they do, and I support it. You don't like to have gray hair, go and do, yeah, yeah. And and then at the same time, I do support you know people who decide to have some type of facelift or bottle. Plastic surgery. That's their prerogative. I think it helped you, it helps you physically, but it helps you also spiritually. You feel better with yourself. Um, and then we are uh on longevity medicine, we have come a long way and studying scientifically how can we slow down the aging process at the cerebral level, right? And then translate that into clinical um outcomes, into clinical benefits, and we can do that a lot, and I gotta tell you, people can improve their lifestyle up to a 50% sometimes and feel much better. The other aspect that sometimes uh bothers me, and I see a lot, is when you see, as you said, a woman in her perimidopausal age, and then she went to her gynecologist, and that's what really bothers me that it was a gynecologist, and usually another woman, another woman, which say, What? And then just say, Oh, yeah, I talked to my doctor and just say, No, that's normal, um, that it will pass, that I have to use weight and be patient. I said, What to be patient for three, five years suffering those symptoms? Why we have choices now, you know. So, those are the two big myths that I found in the clinical practice that I always try to explain to patients, you know, that it's not true and that there is a lot that we can do about it.

SPEAKER_02:

So, one more, one more patient-related question, and I want to move on. But it is if I said to you, like garden variety patient, are you mostly seeing women? Are you mostly seeing men? What kind of age range? Is it that female 40 to 55? Is that your main main patient?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I would say three to one, you know, pretty much that's our ratio. Okay, but you know, males uh we are a little bit more, and I would say, and unpreoccupied for that. Um, most of the males they believe it's not important and they don't care.

SPEAKER_02:

And as far as pride, it's a little bit of pride, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

Some day football and with beer, they are happy. Um, but so women are a little bit more proactive, they try to be more more healthy, more looking younger, and so they are more engaged in this type of of practice. And um, but at the same time, it usually happens that we start with the women, and then they are able to convince the husband and bring it over, and then they enroll too in the program. So that the age group, yeah, most it's 50s. I will say 50s is the most common age when we start to worry about aging, about honesty about dying.

SPEAKER_02:

Our own mortality, yeah, our mortality kicks in.

SPEAKER_00:

Before that, we think that we are invincible and nothing gonna happen to us. But as I say, I'm seeing already, you know, some young people in their late 20s already bringing the the topic because they see you know some advertising that we have in the lobby or area, and they ask, Hey, I want to know about this that you said about, and then you say you say, Yeah, we we can start as early as possible. Honestly, I'm trying to convince my kids to start some kind of programs for now to wait until they are 40s or 50s because it's not it might not be late, it's never late, but the sooner the better.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, it's funny is it's amazing how like the stigmatism changes off of certain stuff. Because I remember it it's vaguely remembered, so I'm gonna probably box the story a little bit, but probably about 25 years ago, I remember Sylvester Stallone, because Sylvester Stallone, you look at him, he's in his late 70s now, but even back then he was in his 40s, you know, like he was still older and he was just shredded, like you know, like Rocky III, Rocky IV, like that time frame. And I remember him at one point, I think, getting caught in an airport with like human growth hormone. And he was interviewed after this whole thing had gone down, and he basically said to the person, like, Look, we as a medical society have found the fountain of youth. It's it's in this form, this is what it is. It'll help us live longer, healthier, happier lives, long into old age than we ever did before. And, you know, and then he was like shunned. It was like, oh my God, this is terrible, you know, all this stuff. But now it's 2025, and every other commercial on TV is a weight loss drug or some hormone replacement therapy, and we've embraced it. And you see people like my I'm a I'm Gen X, I'm in that set like early 70s, I'm 53, I'm in that window, and my whole generation of adults are like child adults. We're all kind of older, but still have that youthful mentality. Like, I I look at pictures of my dad when he was my age, and he looked like he was a hundred. Like, you know, it's a different thing now. Um, so one of the things I always like to do, especially with professionals, you got a bunch of degrees, you're obviously a really smart guy, and you do all this work. When you're not in the clinic or in one of your two clinics, which we'll get into in a second, what do you like to do for fun? Do you do family time? Do you like to go out on the boat? Do you like to fly a car for fun?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, um for me, the most important thing is doing things that I can do with my family, especially with my wife. And um, many years ago, a bunch of guys uh invited me to golf, and and they told me about all the good things about golfing, and nothing against it, but say, uh, I want to take time away from my family, my kids. I don't want I want to find something that I can do with them. So we start bowling, and I love bowling. Okay, bowling is the more family-oriented things, and you can really learn and and get better and better. So I pretty much you know think that it's about the same with golf that people want to get better and better with bowling. You can do the same, you can get better and better and enjoy it more. And um, what's your average?

SPEAKER_02:

What's your bowling average?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I would say 200, 20, 200, 230. That's good. I have a couple of two eighties. That's really good. Where do you bowl? Do you do you bowl over in Riverview? I know I used to bowl in that one. Uh it's been kind of not new, but been there for maybe 10-15 years. I used to go to the Brandon one uh on, I think it's Oakville or yeah, Oakville on Oakville. Okay, and then also we went to the one in in Brandon, but close to to to 60 to stay row 60. But you know, I used to be on a leak on Wednesdays, but since I opened the second office, it's been really heavy for me. You know, have an office by yourself is tough. I have no time. So now on weekends, what I like to do is either fishing from my community that we live. We have a little uh duck and we like to fish it from there, and sometimes boring. I just started to get into a pickleball. I think it's a great way to to make friends and to stay active.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, pickleball is like a cult. Like you see it like over on Mira Bay, they got those pickleball courts over there. I mean, everybody's playing pickleball. Um, all right, so as we start to wrap this up, let's I I want to take the one takeaway. Like, I know what I'm taking away from our conversation here, but what's the one thing you want listeners and and viewers to see and hear that they they just need to come to Ajax Clinics?

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Well, I would say most of anything, that everybody should be worried about their own health. And when I started my practice right here in Mirabey Plaza, that was my first office there, a small office that we installed. Our first uh motto that we choose it was like this your health, my commitment. Now, after I learned everything that I do now, I will say and I tap to patients say, Your health, your commitment. Yeah, so I want people to understand that their health is in their own hands and they have to do a lot to keep it.

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I mean, that's a great point. I I talk about this all the time when I'm when I'm speaking with folks, um, like when I'm out speaking at like events and stuff. The one commodity on the planet Earth that we can never replenish is time. We could always figure out a way to dig for more oil or ion lithium batteries, or we'll keep you know going through the earth to get all these minerals and all the things we need. But time is not replenishable. And wouldn't you want to live whatever time you have left, whatever that is? I can walk out the door and get hit by a bus, or I could live another 50 years, whatever that is. I want to enjoy it. So why not take advantage of this? So the one thing I really got out of our conversation is the customization. So, like if I'm listening to this, if you're out there listening or watching this podcast, don't be afraid to take the first step to go into one of the clinics to meet. So, Ajax Clinics, there are two of them. There's one in Apollo Beach right on 41. There's another one down in Bradington. You can call 813-751-3570 is the number. Call that number and they'll get you to where what is most convenient for you on your schedule. And you can go to AjaxClinics.com. We're in the middle of like we're in this rebrand right out. So if you go there and you check it out, you might see something new every time you go, but we're in the process of making sure the community is aware of what you guys do. Um, your staple right here in Apollo Beach, right on 41. You can't miss it. It's right by Miller Mac there. Um right by the the the marijuana factory. I when I first moved here, I said to my wife, I'm like, why does it smell like weed? Always in this same spot. And I never even noticed it. I never even noticed it. So it's right across the street. So don't go there to get a boat, the contact eye. Go there to Ajax Clinics, get your age rejuvenation. Don't miss out on calling Dr. Al 813-751-3570. Al, thank you for taking a ride down the branding highway with us. We appreciate your time. You have an amazing holiday, and we'll catch up with you soon.

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Thank you very much, and thank you, everyone.

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