{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":8.717,"endTime":9.426,"body":"Welcome to what we do."},{"startTime":9.426,"endTime":12.22,"body":"What happened? I'm Laura Kightlinger."},{"startTime":12.22,"endTime":12.679,"body":"And we're."},{"startTime":12.679,"endTime":18.143,"body":"Here with the lovely and talented"},{"startTime":12.679,"endTime":18.143,"body":"Beth Lepidus. Yay!"},{"startTime":18.226,"endTime":19.394,"body":"The Creator."},{"startTime":19.394,"endTime":21.855,"body":"The Creator of Uncap"},{"startTime":19.394,"endTime":21.855,"body":"and many other things."},{"startTime":21.855,"endTime":24.149,"body":"On camera. And cabaret."},{"startTime":24.149,"endTime":25.483,"body":"You're right. You're right."},{"startTime":25.483,"endTime":27.152,"body":"I know it's really hard to connect myself."},{"startTime":27.152,"endTime":30.155,"body":"All I can uncover a."},{"startTime":30.321,"endTime":33.116,"body":"35 or 30 years. Now it's about 30,"},{"startTime":30.321,"endTime":33.116,"body":"I think."},{"startTime":33.116,"endTime":36.411,"body":"I think actually an was probably more"},{"startTime":33.116,"endTime":36.411,"body":"than 30 or 25th anniversary"},{"startTime":36.411,"endTime":39.789,"body":"show at the Ace was five years ago."},{"startTime":39.873,"endTime":42.292,"body":"Oh, I love that show was probably not."},{"startTime":42.292,"endTime":44.169,"body":"Or it's hard to know where to count from."},{"startTime":44.169,"endTime":47.172,"body":"That's one of the things"},{"startTime":44.169,"endTime":47.172,"body":"that I at a certain point I'm like"},{"startTime":47.213,"endTime":50.759,"body":"more than 25 just sounds too long,"},{"startTime":47.213,"endTime":50.759,"body":"so let's just keep it at 25."},{"startTime":50.759,"endTime":54.012,"body":"Yeah, just be 25 forever."},{"startTime":54.095,"endTime":56.097,"body":"because of the beginning of uncap show."},{"startTime":56.097,"endTime":57.098,"body":"Yes, please."},{"startTime":57.098,"endTime":61.102,"body":"The beginning of Uncap is always hard"},{"startTime":57.098,"endTime":61.102,"body":"for me to sort of exactly lock down."},{"startTime":61.186,"endTime":63.229,"body":"It's on cabaret but. Right now."},{"startTime":63.229,"endTime":66.691,"body":"Say okay hi."},{"startTime":66.775,"endTime":68.818,"body":"You people are probably listening"},{"startTime":66.775,"endTime":68.818,"body":"from the beginning."},{"startTime":68.818,"endTime":70.487,"body":"And Oh yeah I know."},{"startTime":70.487,"endTime":74.449,"body":"Yeah So it started at the women's"},{"startTime":70.487,"endTime":74.449,"body":"building, downtown L.A.,"},{"startTime":74.449,"endTime":78.286,"body":"which was the home of Judy Chicago's"},{"startTime":74.449,"endTime":78.286,"body":"Dinner party."},{"startTime":78.369,"endTime":81.998,"body":"And it was this super cool"},{"startTime":78.369,"endTime":81.998,"body":"little art space."},{"startTime":81.998,"endTime":85.126,"body":"And I was getting a show ready to tour."},{"startTime":85.126,"endTime":87.337,"body":"And I, you know,"},{"startTime":85.126,"endTime":87.337,"body":"I had done the show before."},{"startTime":87.337,"endTime":88.671,"body":"It's called Global Mania."},{"startTime":88.671,"endTime":92.258,"body":"And it was just like one of those great,"},{"startTime":88.671,"endTime":92.258,"body":"great audiences."},{"startTime":92.258,"endTime":95.512,"body":"And then the meet and greet afterwards,"},{"startTime":92.258,"endTime":95.512,"body":"I said to them,"},{"startTime":95.553,"endTime":98.556,"body":"I time you guys laugh because it wasn't"},{"startTime":95.553,"endTime":98.556,"body":"quite as funny as you thought it was."},{"startTime":98.556,"endTime":100.266,"body":"I mean, you know, yeah."},{"startTime":100.266,"endTime":102.894,"body":"Those are like you go,"},{"startTime":100.266,"endTime":102.894,"body":"Oh, and they're like, That's hilarious."},{"startTime":102.894,"endTime":107.607,"body":"Yeah. Like, no, it's actually not."},{"startTime":107.69,"endTime":109.567,"body":"Oh, we're women and we're lesbians"},{"startTime":107.69,"endTime":109.567,"body":"and we're artists."},{"startTime":109.567,"endTime":112.237,"body":"And if we go to tiny clubs,"},{"startTime":109.567,"endTime":112.237,"body":"they just make fun of us."},{"startTime":112.237,"endTime":113.78,"body":"So. Oh."},{"startTime":113.78,"endTime":117.033,"body":"Oh, I'll make you a show"},{"startTime":113.78,"endTime":117.033,"body":"to be on homophobic and xenophobic"},{"startTime":117.033,"endTime":119.202,"body":"on misogyny as it will be on Cabaret."},{"startTime":119.202,"endTime":121.246,"body":"That was literally how it happened."},{"startTime":121.246,"endTime":122.33,"body":"I don't know where the were."},{"startTime":122.33,"endTime":124.958,"body":"I mean, it wasn't like"},{"startTime":122.33,"endTime":124.958,"body":"I was a cabaret girl."},{"startTime":124.958,"endTime":126.709,"body":"Yeah, I don't know the word."},{"startTime":126.709,"endTime":128.169,"body":"It just popped into my head."},{"startTime":128.169,"endTime":131.172,"body":"So I always have felt like, Oh,"},{"startTime":128.169,"endTime":131.172,"body":"it was an assignment."},{"startTime":131.297,"endTime":136.094,"body":"And then I did make a show for them there,"},{"startTime":131.297,"endTime":136.094,"body":"and I didn't really know what it was."},{"startTime":136.136,"endTime":138.096,"body":"I just was like,"},{"startTime":136.136,"endTime":138.096,"body":"Oh, it's nothing different."},{"startTime":138.096,"endTime":140.39,"body":"I was so frustrated."},{"startTime":138.096,"endTime":140.39,"body":"So they were ready for it."},{"startTime":140.39,"endTime":142.433,"body":"And I also had been looking"},{"startTime":140.39,"endTime":142.433,"body":"for a different way."},{"startTime":142.433,"endTime":144.31,"body":"I'd been going around the comedy clubs"},{"startTime":142.433,"endTime":144.31,"body":"in L.A."},{"startTime":144.31,"endTime":145.311,"body":"going like,"},{"startTime":145.311,"endTime":148.731,"body":"There's got to be a better way,"},{"startTime":145.311,"endTime":148.731,"body":"there's got to be a better way, you know?"},{"startTime":148.815,"endTime":150.525,"body":"Glad the comedy, There's got to be."},{"startTime":150.525,"endTime":150.817,"body":"A better."},{"startTime":150.817,"endTime":153.027,"body":"Oh, yeah, have. Yeah, right."},{"startTime":153.027,"endTime":154.32,"body":"And I kind of figured out what it was."},{"startTime":154.32,"endTime":157.657,"body":"And then here was this audience"},{"startTime":154.32,"endTime":157.657,"body":"that was like, ready to go."},{"startTime":157.782,"endTime":159.534,"body":"They were like, we can't go there."},{"startTime":159.534,"endTime":162.162,"body":"We want comedy. I was like, Well,"},{"startTime":159.534,"endTime":162.162,"body":"maybe this is part of it."},{"startTime":162.162,"endTime":163.329,"body":"So I brought in a bunch of people."},{"startTime":163.329,"endTime":165.206,"body":"Judy told some one of."},{"startTime":165.206,"endTime":168.334,"body":"Them, notably,"},{"startTime":165.206,"endTime":168.334,"body":"I can't remember a lot of other people"},{"startTime":168.334,"endTime":170.336,"body":"that were in that first thing,"},{"startTime":168.334,"endTime":170.336,"body":"which was just like,"},{"startTime":170.336,"endTime":172.63,"body":"Do something that you can't do"},{"startTime":170.336,"endTime":172.63,"body":"in the clubs."},{"startTime":172.63,"endTime":174.716,"body":"I think Judy was still even doing"},{"startTime":172.63,"endTime":174.716,"body":"Andrea Dice."},{"startTime":174.716,"endTime":176.134,"body":"Clay Honestly."},{"startTime":176.134,"endTime":177.719,"body":"Then we did a few there."},{"startTime":177.719,"endTime":179.345,"body":"They lost their it was very successful,"},{"startTime":179.345,"endTime":184.434,"body":"but then they lost their funding,"},{"startTime":179.345,"endTime":184.434,"body":"you know, sarcasm or gee,"},{"startTime":184.517,"endTime":185.935,"body":"I knew there was something, though."},{"startTime":185.935,"endTime":188.73,"body":"I mean, I knew we"},{"startTime":185.935,"endTime":188.73,"body":"I hadn't quite found what it was."},{"startTime":188.73,"endTime":190.356,"body":"So I think of that as like even though"},{"startTime":190.356,"endTime":192.817,"body":"was the women's building,"},{"startTime":190.356,"endTime":192.817,"body":"I think of it as like the insemination."},{"startTime":192.817,"endTime":194.277,"body":"And I was like, Hmm."},{"startTime":194.277,"endTime":196.696,"body":"And then I was like,"},{"startTime":194.277,"endTime":196.696,"body":"There's something here."},{"startTime":196.696,"endTime":198.573,"body":"And I think we've exactly found it."},{"startTime":198.573,"endTime":200.116,"body":"But I feel a lot of energy."},{"startTime":200.116,"endTime":200.742,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":200.742,"endTime":203.62,"body":"I moved as a highways"},{"startTime":200.742,"endTime":203.62,"body":"performance space in Santa monica,"},{"startTime":203.62,"endTime":208.374,"body":"and we moved it to a summer or late night"},{"startTime":203.62,"endTime":208.374,"body":"summer Saturday night run."},{"startTime":208.416,"endTime":213.838,"body":"That was me, Taylor, Negron and Judy. Oh."},{"startTime":213.922,"endTime":216.507,"body":"Fantastic. Few months. Oh, my God."},{"startTime":216.507,"endTime":220.762,"body":"And, yeah,"},{"startTime":216.507,"endTime":220.762,"body":"that's where I feel like was the gestation"},{"startTime":220.845,"endTime":224.182,"body":"because a lot of what it was going to be"},{"startTime":220.845,"endTime":224.182,"body":"was formed."},{"startTime":224.39,"endTime":227.393,"body":"The storytelling, the intimacy,"},{"startTime":227.393,"endTime":231.814,"body":"the personal nature, the fact that, like,"},{"startTime":227.393,"endTime":231.814,"body":"it's three things that make you know."},{"startTime":231.814,"endTime":233.524,"body":"That it's, hmm."},{"startTime":233.524,"endTime":236.486,"body":"Somehow cohesive"},{"startTime":233.524,"endTime":236.486,"body":"even though it's not like planned out."},{"startTime":236.486,"endTime":239.197,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":236.486,"endTime":239.197,"body":"there were some big political ideas."},{"startTime":239.197,"endTime":243.868,"body":"Big ideas, was all these different"},{"startTime":239.197,"endTime":243.868,"body":"elements of what would make on Cabaret."},{"startTime":243.868,"endTime":247.872,"body":"And Cabaret were established in this,"},{"startTime":243.868,"endTime":247.872,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":247.872,"endTime":251.584,"body":"few months of summer and highways"},{"startTime":247.872,"endTime":251.584,"body":"was music a component of those."},{"startTime":251.584,"endTime":252.919,"body":"Shows? No, not at all."},{"startTime":252.919,"endTime":255.922,"body":"Okay. that comes later. Hmm. Yeah."},{"startTime":256.089,"endTime":258.883,"body":"and then I took a break"},{"startTime":256.089,"endTime":258.883,"body":"to do the First Lady campaign,"},{"startTime":258.883,"endTime":261.261,"body":"to make first Lady an elected position."},{"startTime":258.883,"endTime":261.261,"body":"She's so important."},{"startTime":261.261,"endTime":262.47,"body":"We should get to the latter."},{"startTime":262.47,"endTime":263.429,"body":"But if we're going to elect her,"},{"startTime":263.429,"endTime":267.392,"body":"we should get paid her"},{"startTime":263.429,"endTime":267.392,"body":"because she's working so hard that"},{"startTime":267.475,"endTime":268.351,"body":"we're so hard."},{"startTime":268.351,"endTime":269.06,"body":"Who's your payer?"},{"startTime":269.06,"endTime":269.811,"body":"But if we're going to pay her,"},{"startTime":269.811,"endTime":273.314,"body":"we should get to pick our lowest picker,"},{"startTime":269.811,"endTime":273.314,"body":"those payer this whole campaign."},{"startTime":273.314,"endTime":277.235,"body":"And it was like, you know, maybe"},{"startTime":273.314,"endTime":277.235,"body":"the campaign I was, as you know, news."},{"startTime":277.318,"endTime":282.198,"body":"It was a legitimate effort"},{"startTime":277.318,"endTime":282.198,"body":"to make the first lady and it like it."},{"startTime":282.198,"endTime":285.66,"body":"Was this intimate effort"},{"startTime":282.198,"endTime":285.66,"body":"to bring the idea to life."},{"startTime":285.785,"endTime":286.869,"body":"I mean, I knew I wasn't"},{"startTime":286.869,"endTime":291.082,"body":"I wasn't going to actually happen,"},{"startTime":286.869,"endTime":291.082,"body":"but it was the Clinton election was right."},{"startTime":291.082,"endTime":295.253,"body":"But also a lot of the first ladies"},{"startTime":291.082,"endTime":295.253,"body":"are the ones that bring appeal to it."},{"startTime":295.295,"endTime":300.216,"body":"I mean, even when Robert Kennedy Jr said"},{"startTime":295.295,"endTime":300.216,"body":"his wife the personality of the campaign."},{"startTime":300.216,"endTime":300.8,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":300.8,"endTime":301.342,"body":"people forget"},{"startTime":301.342,"endTime":305.305,"body":"just really fast that Hillary Clinton was"},{"startTime":301.342,"endTime":305.305,"body":"so when they were in that whole time,"},{"startTime":305.388,"endTime":308.933,"body":"I think more than anyone else had"},{"startTime":305.388,"endTime":308.933,"body":"been was such an object."},{"startTime":308.933,"endTime":311.811,"body":"Right. She was a punching bag."},{"startTime":308.933,"endTime":311.811,"body":"She was a joke."},{"startTime":311.811,"endTime":314.981,"body":"You know, just as a before she even tried"},{"startTime":311.811,"endTime":314.981,"body":"to get health care for people."},{"startTime":314.981,"endTime":315.648,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":315.648,"endTime":318.985,"body":"So that's interesting that it was like"},{"startTime":315.648,"endTime":318.985,"body":"coinciding because she was first lady."},{"startTime":318.985,"endTime":321.321,"body":"Anybody was like this weird beacon,"},{"startTime":318.985,"endTime":321.321,"body":"right? Yeah."},{"startTime":321.321,"endTime":323.281,"body":"It was also Hillary and Barbara Bush."},{"startTime":323.281,"endTime":325.658,"body":"I mean, which was such a compare"},{"startTime":323.281,"endTime":325.658,"body":"and contrast."},{"startTime":325.658,"endTime":326.659,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":326.659,"endTime":329.829,"body":"Barbara wrote that book"},{"startTime":326.659,"endTime":329.829,"body":"from the perspective of their dog."},{"startTime":329.871,"endTime":332.332,"body":"Do you remember that? You know."},{"startTime":332.332,"endTime":335.918,"body":"I don't really like military. Oh."},{"startTime":336.002,"endTime":337.295,"body":"Oh, she's."},{"startTime":337.295,"endTime":341.674,"body":"Invading"},{"startTime":337.295,"endTime":341.674,"body":"Kuwait and Iraq and shit going. On."},{"startTime":341.758,"endTime":343.426,"body":"And the dog doesn't care, right?"},{"startTime":343.426,"endTime":346.304,"body":"I'm guessing"},{"startTime":343.426,"endTime":346.304,"body":"he just wants to treat like breakfast."},{"startTime":346.304,"endTime":348.431,"body":"Yeah. Oh, God almighty."},{"startTime":348.431,"endTime":348.931,"body":"So, yeah."},{"startTime":348.931,"endTime":351.267,"body":"So it's a little bit"},{"startTime":348.931,"endTime":351.267,"body":"like you should get to pick that person is"},{"startTime":351.267,"endTime":355.897,"body":"I also thought if we elected first lady,"},{"startTime":351.267,"endTime":355.897,"body":"we have so much broader"},{"startTime":355.897,"endTime":359.817,"body":"and more interesting choices of president"},{"startTime":355.897,"endTime":359.817,"body":"because single people could run."},{"startTime":359.901,"endTime":360.485,"body":"Yeah, women."},{"startTime":360.485,"endTime":361.277,"body":"Can be president"},{"startTime":361.277,"endTime":365.114,"body":"because, you know, a man wouldn't"},{"startTime":361.277,"endTime":365.114,"body":"want to be a first lady necessarily."},{"startTime":365.114,"endTime":366.574,"body":"Uh huh. Yeah."},{"startTime":366.574,"endTime":369.577,"body":"And so we can have another person"},{"startTime":366.574,"endTime":369.577,"body":"in not sure."},{"startTime":369.786,"endTime":372.163,"body":"Anyway, a lot of sense"},{"startTime":369.786,"endTime":372.163,"body":"and I worked it all out, but it was still"},{"startTime":372.163,"endTime":375.541,"body":"I had a lot of jokes and punch lines"},{"startTime":372.163,"endTime":375.541,"body":"and so it was just to bring it to light."},{"startTime":375.541,"endTime":378.044,"body":"I did go to the Democratic"},{"startTime":375.541,"endTime":378.044,"body":"National Convention."},{"startTime":378.044,"endTime":380.38,"body":"Oh, Clinton. One."},{"startTime":380.38,"endTime":382.59,"body":"Yeah. Yeah, Actually, that was it."},{"startTime":382.59,"endTime":383.716,"body":"Yeah, the DNC."},{"startTime":383.716,"endTime":387.178,"body":"I think so. I have to say"},{"startTime":383.716,"endTime":387.178,"body":"I left early because it was so"},{"startTime":387.261,"endTime":388.137,"body":"alien meeting."},{"startTime":388.137,"endTime":391.891,"body":"I was like, honestly, I don't feel Oh."},{"startTime":391.974,"endTime":394.268,"body":"He smells like hot. Dogs, bro."},{"startTime":394.268,"endTime":398.439,"body":"If you never see that on TV like it's hot,"},{"startTime":394.268,"endTime":398.439,"body":"so. Oh."},{"startTime":398.523,"endTime":401.275,"body":"Cause I went as a journalist."},{"startTime":398.523,"endTime":401.275,"body":"Okay, gotcha."},{"startTime":401.275,"endTime":404.278,"body":"But I was talking to people there"},{"startTime":401.275,"endTime":404.278,"body":"about it."},{"startTime":404.278,"endTime":407.49,"body":"I'm doing a story for a network"},{"startTime":404.278,"endTime":407.49,"body":"that was very first person,"},{"startTime":407.573,"endTime":410.785,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":407.573,"endTime":410.785,"body":"It was like first person stories and."},{"startTime":410.868,"endTime":413.246,"body":"That was George Bush. CLINTON Yeah."},{"startTime":413.246,"endTime":415.289,"body":"Perot Right. Right, right."},{"startTime":415.289,"endTime":416.541,"body":"Oh, Perot."},{"startTime":416.541,"endTime":419.919,"body":"Say, I got as many electoral votes"},{"startTime":416.541,"endTime":419.919,"body":"as Perot."},{"startTime":420.002,"endTime":421.879,"body":"Ha. Millions less."},{"startTime":421.879,"endTime":423.631,"body":"Ha, ha."},{"startTime":423.631,"endTime":425.174,"body":"Incredible. All right."},{"startTime":425.174,"endTime":427.718,"body":"So, Beth, were you on a ballot or not?"},{"startTime":427.718,"endTime":429.554,"body":"No, because it wasn't that thing."},{"startTime":429.554,"endTime":434.058,"body":"No, it was a joke campaign"},{"startTime":429.554,"endTime":434.058,"body":"I mean, it was a feminist piece."},{"startTime":434.058,"endTime":437.937,"body":"I mean, more than a political piece"},{"startTime":434.058,"endTime":437.937,"body":"was by saying we just take this"},{"startTime":437.937,"endTime":441.732,"body":"for granted that this person"},{"startTime":437.937,"endTime":441.732,"body":"is going to give up their whole life."},{"startTime":441.858,"endTime":442.567,"body":"Right?"},{"startTime":442.567,"endTime":445.027,"body":"We expect her to. Hmm."},{"startTime":445.027,"endTime":446.612,"body":"And it's a real job."},{"startTime":446.612,"endTime":448.531,"body":"We need this person right."},{"startTime":448.531,"endTime":451.492,"body":"Half of the presidency"},{"startTime":448.531,"endTime":451.492,"body":"is this other person."},{"startTime":451.492,"endTime":454.62,"body":"And if the president isn't married,"},{"startTime":451.492,"endTime":454.62,"body":"you know, it's always been like,"},{"startTime":454.62,"endTime":455.455,"body":"well, there's a need."},{"startTime":455.455,"endTime":458.249,"body":"You need somebody that can turn"},{"startTime":455.455,"endTime":458.249,"body":"turn the other way When there"},{"startTime":458.249,"endTime":461.169,"body":"The husband is fucking an intern. Exactly."},{"startTime":461.169,"endTime":463.463,"body":"Someone has to turn a blind eye. Yes."},{"startTime":463.463,"endTime":466.257,"body":"And that should be"},{"startTime":463.463,"endTime":466.257,"body":"you should be paid for that for sure."},{"startTime":466.257,"endTime":467.842,"body":"Did you ever read Molly Ivins?"},{"startTime":467.842,"endTime":468.801,"body":"I've read her a little bit."},{"startTime":468.801,"endTime":471.179,"body":"I'm not to quote,"},{"startTime":468.801,"endTime":471.179,"body":"but of course, enjoyed her like everyone."},{"startTime":471.179,"endTime":474.015,"body":"Yeah, She to me is like,"},{"startTime":471.179,"endTime":474.015,"body":"shined in that era."},{"startTime":474.015,"endTime":475.308,"body":"I know her her career"},{"startTime":475.308,"endTime":479.479,"body":"last decades, but her like nineties"},{"startTime":475.308,"endTime":479.479,"body":"like Bush into Clinton era."},{"startTime":479.479,"endTime":482.315,"body":"Yeah. She's like stellar. Oh, strong."},{"startTime":479.479,"endTime":482.315,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":482.315,"endTime":483.149,"body":"She was important."},{"startTime":483.149,"endTime":485.818,"body":"Mary, were you kind of in that?"},{"startTime":485.818,"endTime":486.861,"body":"Were you writing that"},{"startTime":486.861,"endTime":490.49,"body":"same wave was that yours also, like"},{"startTime":486.861,"endTime":490.49,"body":"with the dose of performance behind it."},{"startTime":490.698,"endTime":493.451,"body":"It was all performance."},{"startTime":490.698,"endTime":493.451,"body":"It was barely written."},{"startTime":493.451,"endTime":494.494,"body":"it was a lot of media."},{"startTime":494.494,"endTime":496.829,"body":"There's full page spread"},{"startTime":494.494,"endTime":496.829,"body":"and People magazine."},{"startTime":496.829,"endTime":501.626,"body":"Oh, there"},{"startTime":496.829,"endTime":501.626,"body":"was, Interview magazine did a big thing."},{"startTime":501.626,"endTime":503.628,"body":"They brought a baby to the photo shoot."},{"startTime":503.628,"endTime":505.087,"body":"And that's adorable."},{"startTime":505.087,"endTime":508.674,"body":"Baby, baby, I don't know that baby. Wow."},{"startTime":508.758,"endTime":510.927,"body":"A live baby."},{"startTime":510.927,"endTime":513.262,"body":"Oh, wow. It's amazing."},{"startTime":513.262,"endTime":515.681,"body":"You know, you're a joke about,"},{"startTime":513.262,"endTime":515.681,"body":"you know, Hold my baby."},{"startTime":515.681,"endTime":516.682,"body":"Yeah. Oh, yeah."},{"startTime":516.682,"endTime":517.475,"body":"It was almost like that."},{"startTime":517.475,"endTime":521.646,"body":"That was somebody like, having the ability"},{"startTime":517.475,"endTime":521.646,"body":"was on these great photoshoots and style"},{"startTime":521.646,"endTime":522.73,"body":"to this one where we had"},{"startTime":522.73,"endTime":526.609,"body":"this giant flag that we painted room,"},{"startTime":522.73,"endTime":526.609,"body":"you know, Fluorescent rainbow."},{"startTime":526.609,"endTime":529.445,"body":"And I was nude"},{"startTime":526.609,"endTime":529.445,"body":"and wrapped in this flag and."},{"startTime":529.445,"endTime":530.488,"body":"Oh, cool."},{"startTime":530.488,"endTime":532.865,"body":"And then I did a lot of TV. I did CNN."},{"startTime":532.865,"endTime":539.205,"body":"I did I okay, so I was invited to Oprah,"},{"startTime":532.865,"endTime":539.205,"body":"who wasn't exactly what she is now."},{"startTime":539.288,"endTime":544.502,"body":"Huh? And I had was doing"},{"startTime":539.288,"endTime":544.502,"body":"a one person show about this,"},{"startTime":544.585,"endTime":548.673,"body":"which is probably the single worst review"},{"startTime":544.585,"endTime":548.673,"body":"I've ever gotten was about this show."},{"startTime":548.714,"endTime":552.385,"body":"But I had to say no to Oprah to do this"},{"startTime":548.714,"endTime":552.385,"body":"show."},{"startTime":552.426,"endTime":557.056,"body":"Oh, in my mind, I was so naive"},{"startTime":552.426,"endTime":557.056,"body":"as a young girl in my mind as like,"},{"startTime":557.139,"endTime":560.851,"body":"I've got a live show"},{"startTime":557.139,"endTime":560.851,"body":"booked. How can I do Oprah?"},{"startTime":560.935,"endTime":562.353,"body":"Your show, the 1990"},{"startTime":562.353,"endTime":565.314,"body":"Theater in Los Angeles,"},{"startTime":562.353,"endTime":565.314,"body":"they can't possibly like do Oprah."},{"startTime":565.356,"endTime":567.692,"body":"And I think they have Me"},{"startTime":565.356,"endTime":567.692,"body":"was another political comedian."},{"startTime":567.692,"endTime":569.402,"body":"And I was like, I don't know."},{"startTime":569.402,"endTime":570.903,"body":"It's you know, you live and you learn."},{"startTime":570.903,"endTime":573.03,"body":"Yeah, I did say, oh, and oh,"},{"startTime":570.903,"endTime":573.03,"body":"there was another factor."},{"startTime":573.03,"endTime":577.91,"body":"Joan Rivers also wanted me"},{"startTime":573.03,"endTime":577.91,"body":"and Joan Rivers was"},{"startTime":577.994,"endTime":580.454,"body":"wouldn't do it unless it was exclusive."},{"startTime":580.454,"endTime":581.622,"body":"Wait, I. Didn't like about. That."},{"startTime":581.622,"endTime":584.166,"body":"What do you mean? Well,"},{"startTime":581.622,"endTime":584.166,"body":"it was like she you can't talk over and."},{"startTime":584.166,"endTime":585.418,"body":"Oh, gotcha."},{"startTime":585.418,"endTime":586.752,"body":"And I was just sorry to back up."},{"startTime":586.752,"endTime":587.295,"body":"I was like,"},{"startTime":587.295,"endTime":591.215,"body":"was this for Joan Rivers like, talk"},{"startTime":587.295,"endTime":591.215,"body":"to talk show, the daytime or nighttime?"},{"startTime":591.382,"endTime":592.8,"body":"daytime camp going, Sorry."},{"startTime":592.8,"endTime":595.219,"body":"I'm pretty sure. Yeah,"},{"startTime":592.8,"endTime":595.219,"body":"I don't know. Because I didn't do it."},{"startTime":595.219,"endTime":595.845,"body":"Okay. Yeah."},{"startTime":595.845,"endTime":596.637,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":596.637,"endTime":597.43,"body":"I got bombed."},{"startTime":597.43,"endTime":599.724,"body":"From that and I said no to Oprah, too, to."},{"startTime":599.724,"endTime":602.143,"body":"Shut the fuck up."},{"startTime":602.143,"endTime":604.729,"body":"Yeah, that's not a Oh."},{"startTime":604.729,"endTime":605.521,"body":"Wait. So."},{"startTime":605.521,"endTime":608.524,"body":"So you didn't do. okay."},{"startTime":608.524,"endTime":611.611,"body":"But I wasn't like, So what I'm telling you"},{"startTime":608.524,"endTime":611.611,"body":"is it was a media campaign."},{"startTime":611.611,"endTime":614.322,"body":"It was like that."},{"startTime":611.611,"endTime":614.322,"body":"But also it was a big learning lesson."},{"startTime":614.322,"endTime":619.118,"body":"Navigate, publicity and press and but"},{"startTime":614.322,"endTime":619.118,"body":"it still I've you know, CNN is on a radio."},{"startTime":619.16,"endTime":620.911,"body":"Montel Williams. You know what?"},{"startTime":620.911,"endTime":621.954,"body":"That's even more sad"},{"startTime":621.954,"endTime":625.416,"body":"because seeing Montel Williams"},{"startTime":621.954,"endTime":625.416,"body":"never graduated into Oprah League."},{"startTime":625.499,"endTime":625.958,"body":"You know what I mean?"},{"startTime":625.958,"endTime":628.961,"body":"So that's what"},{"startTime":625.958,"endTime":628.961,"body":"that's what Oprah looked like at the time."},{"startTime":629.045,"endTime":631.422,"body":"Oh, Sally Jessy."},{"startTime":631.422,"endTime":632.59,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":632.59,"endTime":634.508,"body":"So it was a lot. So I did do some writing."},{"startTime":634.508,"endTime":639.055,"body":"I wrote a piece for The Realist, if you"},{"startTime":634.508,"endTime":639.055,"body":"remember Paul Krasner's an amazing paper."},{"startTime":639.055,"endTime":640.181,"body":"He's so important."},{"startTime":640.181,"endTime":640.89,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":640.89,"endTime":644.769,"body":"I like to say his name because he"},{"startTime":640.89,"endTime":644.769,"body":"he really paved the way for a lot of"},{"startTime":644.769,"endTime":646.02,"body":"what is modern comedy."},{"startTime":646.02,"endTime":648.606,"body":"And also, I want to back up"},{"startTime":646.02,"endTime":648.606,"body":"really fast on the Oprah thing"},{"startTime":648.606,"endTime":652.36,"body":"because I feel like her"},{"startTime":648.606,"endTime":652.36,"body":"guests were not a lot of"},{"startTime":652.568,"endTime":656.489,"body":"and celebrated until she got to a certain"},{"startTime":652.568,"endTime":656.489,"body":"like enlightened point."},{"startTime":656.614,"endTime":660.117,"body":"Uh huh It was still very tabloid"},{"startTime":656.614,"endTime":660.117,"body":"and those are you know what I mean?"},{"startTime":660.117,"endTime":661.619,"body":"Like, you know, you're making."},{"startTime":661.619,"endTime":663.454,"body":"Me feel so good about this. Decision."},{"startTime":663.454,"endTime":665.247,"body":"I'm telling you,"},{"startTime":663.454,"endTime":665.247,"body":"because there would have been like"},{"startTime":665.247,"endTime":668.876,"body":"it was more of a look at this person"},{"startTime":665.247,"endTime":668.876,"body":"as opposed to, like, tell us your story."},{"startTime":668.959,"endTime":670.211,"body":"Yes. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":670.211,"endTime":673.464,"body":"Yes. And so I feel like as opposed to like"},{"startTime":670.211,"endTime":673.464,"body":"Joan Rivers would have been, like."},{"startTime":673.589,"endTime":675.216,"body":"Amazing as a comedian."},{"startTime":675.216,"endTime":675.883,"body":"Right. Right."},{"startTime":675.883,"endTime":677.218,"body":"Like that in my brain."},{"startTime":677.218,"endTime":679.637,"body":"That's the choice. Yeah. Thank you."},{"startTime":679.637,"endTime":681.722,"body":"You know what? You've"},{"startTime":679.637,"endTime":681.722,"body":"just really helped me."},{"startTime":681.722,"endTime":683.808,"body":"I mean, I really."},{"startTime":683.808,"endTime":685.101,"body":"I mean it, too. She."},{"startTime":685.101,"endTime":686.936,"body":"Yeah, she was more sensational."},{"startTime":686.936,"endTime":689.355,"body":"Like the guy Jerry Springer."},{"startTime":689.355,"endTime":690.314,"body":"Yeah, Jerry Springer."},{"startTime":690.314,"endTime":695.361,"body":"I did just go down a wormhole of watching"},{"startTime":690.314,"endTime":695.361,"body":"like Sally Jessy full episodes."},{"startTime":695.444,"endTime":696.07,"body":"She's funny."},{"startTime":696.07,"endTime":701.45,"body":"I like Sally, but they're all like"},{"startTime":696.07,"endTime":701.45,"body":"my kid dresses like a freak. Oh."},{"startTime":701.492,"endTime":703.077,"body":"Which is so."},{"startTime":703.077,"endTime":705.579,"body":"Yeah, yeah, but there's so. Much I know."},{"startTime":705.579,"endTime":709.291,"body":"Everything that seems so crazy"},{"startTime":705.579,"endTime":709.291,"body":"now You're just like, Yeah, sure."},{"startTime":709.417,"endTime":710.626,"body":"There's a certain look"},{"startTime":710.626,"endTime":714.588,"body":"and you hear how old people used to look,"},{"startTime":710.626,"endTime":714.588,"body":"you know, like how like grandmothers and"},{"startTime":714.672,"endTime":715.84,"body":"like that there was an era"},{"startTime":715.84,"endTime":719.385,"body":"where your mom looks like would be young,"},{"startTime":715.84,"endTime":719.385,"body":"but it still looks like that."},{"startTime":719.385,"endTime":722.388,"body":"So it's all of those kind of. Mom,"},{"startTime":719.385,"endTime":722.388,"body":"you know."},{"startTime":722.513,"endTime":725.182,"body":"Pink hair and like that."},{"startTime":722.513,"endTime":725.182,"body":"So you're 30. Five."},{"startTime":725.182,"endTime":725.474,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":725.474,"endTime":730.229,"body":"Ha ha ha."},{"startTime":730.312,"endTime":733.858,"body":"Oh, and the nineties"},{"startTime":730.312,"endTime":733.858,"body":"were a real crash of that, you know."},{"startTime":733.858,"endTime":734.275,"body":"And yeah,"},{"startTime":734.275,"endTime":734.692,"body":"I love"},{"startTime":734.692,"endTime":738.571,"body":"seeing like the Oscars of the eighties"},{"startTime":734.692,"endTime":738.571,"body":"or there's like glamorous old movie stars."},{"startTime":738.571,"endTime":738.988,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":738.988,"endTime":742.825,"body":"Like young Charlie Sheen."},{"startTime":742.908,"endTime":744.285,"body":"Weird clash of."},{"startTime":744.285,"endTime":748.038,"body":"Well, the nineties it was so"},{"startTime":744.285,"endTime":748.038,"body":"but I mean to be kind of"},{"startTime":748.122,"endTime":752.084,"body":"you know look back"},{"startTime":748.122,"endTime":752.084,"body":"because Cam started at that time."},{"startTime":752.084,"endTime":752.835,"body":"Mm Mm hmm."},{"startTime":752.835,"endTime":755.838,"body":"And then yeah after the first Lady"},{"startTime":752.835,"endTime":755.838,"body":"campaign, we went to Luna Park."},{"startTime":755.838,"endTime":758.299,"body":"Yeah, I called and was like,"},{"startTime":755.838,"endTime":758.299,"body":"I'm opening a new club."},{"startTime":758.299,"endTime":758.799,"body":"Do you want to do it?"},{"startTime":758.799,"endTime":761.051,"body":"And I said, I have to show whatever. I'm"},{"startTime":758.799,"endTime":761.051,"body":"looking for a place to do it."},{"startTime":761.051,"endTime":763.888,"body":"And he's like,"},{"startTime":761.051,"endTime":763.888,"body":"I don't know, is that going to be funny?"},{"startTime":763.971,"endTime":764.472,"body":"Money?"},{"startTime":764.472,"endTime":765.514,"body":"No, no. Yeah."},{"startTime":765.514,"endTime":770.603,"body":"It's like, you know, So we booked it"},{"startTime":765.514,"endTime":770.603,"body":"for three Sunday nights at this new."},{"startTime":770.644,"endTime":772.021,"body":"I loved Luna Park."},{"startTime":772.021,"endTime":773.022,"body":"It used to be on."},{"startTime":773.022,"endTime":774.607,"body":"I used to be on Robertson. Yeah, right."},{"startTime":774.607,"endTime":777.067,"body":"in that incredible room downstairs."},{"startTime":777.067,"endTime":779.82,"body":"And then we ran every Sunday night"},{"startTime":777.067,"endTime":779.82,"body":"for seven years."},{"startTime":779.82,"endTime":781.572,"body":"I mean, from the opening week of that."},{"startTime":781.572,"endTime":782.656,"body":"Club to the closing days."},{"startTime":782.656,"endTime":786.285,"body":"Oh. And, you know,"},{"startTime":782.656,"endTime":786.285,"body":"you were there for a lot of it."},{"startTime":786.368,"endTime":787.328,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":787.328,"endTime":788.204,"body":"That group."},{"startTime":788.204,"endTime":790.498,"body":"I mean, it was really there."},{"startTime":788.204,"endTime":790.498,"body":"So that's where I think."},{"startTime":790.498,"endTime":793.876,"body":"Want to get back to your original question"},{"startTime":790.498,"endTime":793.876,"body":"of like when in the years"},{"startTime":793.876,"endTime":798.506,"body":"and how many years usually start"},{"startTime":793.876,"endTime":798.506,"body":"counting from Luna Park."},{"startTime":798.506,"endTime":799.548,"body":"But in truth,"},{"startTime":799.548,"endTime":802.927,"body":"it did start at the women's building,"},{"startTime":799.548,"endTime":802.927,"body":"but it didn't fully become itself."},{"startTime":803.01,"endTime":804.011,"body":"It had a birth period."},{"startTime":804.011,"endTime":807.306,"body":"You know, I see it as like maybe that's"},{"startTime":804.011,"endTime":807.306,"body":"like a feminine way of looking at it."},{"startTime":807.306,"endTime":811.227,"body":"But, you know, it's a longer thing,"},{"startTime":807.306,"endTime":811.227,"body":"the beginning of something."},{"startTime":811.352,"endTime":812.645,"body":"Right? Right."},{"startTime":812.645,"endTime":813.437,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":813.437,"endTime":818.526,"body":"So group that we had, so"},{"startTime":813.437,"endTime":818.526,"body":"once in a lifetime, that kind of moment."},{"startTime":818.609,"endTime":821.487,"body":"You know, Laura, Margaret and obviously."},{"startTime":821.487,"endTime":822.154,"body":"Julia."},{"startTime":822.154,"endTime":825.032,"body":"Julia, Judy Tolton and yeah."},{"startTime":825.032,"endTime":827.159,"body":"Patton Oswald Oh, sure."},{"startTime":827.159,"endTime":828.035,"body":"David Cross."},{"startTime":828.035,"endTime":830.996,"body":"Andy Dick before you know Before he was."},{"startTime":830.996,"endTime":833.624,"body":"Uncaged."},{"startTime":833.707,"endTime":835.459,"body":"Oh, I know."},{"startTime":835.459,"endTime":836.585,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":836.585,"endTime":839.38,"body":"Rick Overton just on."},{"startTime":839.38,"endTime":842.383,"body":"And on and. On, right? Taylor Story."},{"startTime":842.591,"endTime":843.509,"body":"Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":843.509,"endTime":849.223,"body":"I worked for, you know, Judy Tall and I"},{"startTime":843.509,"endTime":849.223,"body":"exchanged vows on the Luna Park stage."},{"startTime":849.306,"endTime":851.976,"body":"Yeah, I miss her. Yeah, I know."},{"startTime":851.976,"endTime":854.895,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. What's a good Taylor?"},{"startTime":854.895,"endTime":856.605,"body":"Well, you know, anybody listening?"},{"startTime":856.605,"endTime":860.442,"body":"There's a lot of Taylor Negron material"},{"startTime":856.605,"endTime":860.442,"body":"up on our Spotify channel."},{"startTime":860.651,"endTime":863.487,"body":"Um, when we did"},{"startTime":860.651,"endTime":863.487,"body":"after right after he passed,"},{"startTime":863.487,"endTime":867.366,"body":"we did a Taylor Negron album,"},{"startTime":863.487,"endTime":867.366,"body":"and we didn't overly clean it up."},{"startTime":867.366,"endTime":867.867,"body":"It was."},{"startTime":867.867,"endTime":868.659,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":868.659,"endTime":871.328,"body":"It was like, he's so raw, all of it. What?"},{"startTime":871.328,"endTime":873.956,"body":"I mean, he was so funny"},{"startTime":871.328,"endTime":873.956,"body":"because he'd be raw, but that."},{"startTime":873.956,"endTime":877.418,"body":"Okay, so it was great"},{"startTime":873.956,"endTime":877.418,"body":"example telling I run and I love this."},{"startTime":877.459,"endTime":880.838,"body":"Oh, So did you ever hear him"},{"startTime":877.459,"endTime":880.838,"body":"tell the, um, the monkey story? Hmm."},{"startTime":880.921,"endTime":886.01,"body":"So he had this story That was monkey story"},{"startTime":880.921,"endTime":886.01,"body":"until the thing about cab. Hmm."},{"startTime":886.093,"endTime":888.888,"body":"Who have, you know, get to experience it."},{"startTime":888.888,"endTime":890.389,"body":"Please come so we can close it."},{"startTime":890.389,"endTime":892.766,"body":"We were waiting for you now. Ha ha ha."},{"startTime":892.766,"endTime":894.476,"body":"Ha ha ha."},{"startTime":894.476,"endTime":894.81,"body":"you know."},{"startTime":894.81,"endTime":895.185,"body":"The one."},{"startTime":895.185,"endTime":899.523,"body":"Rule, people talk about the rule and I did"},{"startTime":895.185,"endTime":899.523,"body":"an interview with Bob ODENKIRK recently"},{"startTime":899.523,"endTime":903.402,"body":"and he was like, you know, I don't think"},{"startTime":899.523,"endTime":903.402,"body":"the rule was ever actually told to me."},{"startTime":903.485,"endTime":907.573,"body":"I understood it to be was people"},{"startTime":903.485,"endTime":907.573,"body":"would repeat is you can't repeat material."},{"startTime":907.656,"endTime":909.783,"body":"Mm hmm. But that wasn't 100% the case."},{"startTime":909.783,"endTime":913.621,"body":"The idea was to be in the now"},{"startTime":909.783,"endTime":913.621,"body":"and not do your take."},{"startTime":913.704,"endTime":914.33,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":914.33,"endTime":920.252,"body":"And be storytelling and be personal"},{"startTime":914.33,"endTime":920.252,"body":"and just be in the now."},{"startTime":920.294,"endTime":922.588,"body":"Mm hmm. In your current story."},{"startTime":922.588,"endTime":925.841,"body":"And if you had to say something"},{"startTime":922.588,"endTime":925.841,"body":"that you had said before."},{"startTime":925.925,"endTime":926.508,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":926.508,"endTime":929.303,"body":"and the way the back Mike ended up"},{"startTime":926.508,"endTime":929.303,"body":"evolving was"},{"startTime":929.303,"endTime":930.93,"body":"people would be in new material."},{"startTime":930.93,"endTime":932.723,"body":"I always think of this example."},{"startTime":932.723,"endTime":934.224,"body":"Julia was telling a story"},{"startTime":934.224,"endTime":936.56,"body":"about when she was something,"},{"startTime":934.224,"endTime":936.56,"body":"she was getting to something else."},{"startTime":936.56,"endTime":937.937,"body":"And she happened to mention"},{"startTime":937.937,"endTime":940.898,"body":"when she was 14 and her house burned down"},{"startTime":937.937,"endTime":940.898,"body":"and I was like, What?"},{"startTime":940.898,"endTime":943.609,"body":"When you were 14"},{"startTime":940.898,"endTime":943.609,"body":"and your house burned down? Yeah."},{"startTime":943.609,"endTime":944.86,"body":"And that became her set."},{"startTime":944.86,"endTime":948.113,"body":"But always that that my right to die."},{"startTime":948.113,"endTime":952.034,"body":"Then Beth has saved"},{"startTime":948.113,"endTime":952.034,"body":"many asset from me and camp"},{"startTime":952.034,"endTime":953.619,"body":"like I'll just start going off and on."},{"startTime":953.619,"endTime":956.956,"body":"She'll ask a funny question"},{"startTime":953.619,"endTime":956.956,"body":"that leads to something really good."},{"startTime":956.956,"endTime":960.209,"body":"And it's like, Well, yeah, well, you know,"},{"startTime":956.956,"endTime":960.209,"body":"I think too, if you're on stage"},{"startTime":960.209,"endTime":963.087,"body":"and it's new stuff, you're not thinking,"},{"startTime":960.209,"endTime":963.087,"body":"Oh, this might not make sense."},{"startTime":963.087,"endTime":964.672,"body":"You know, like there are questions."},{"startTime":964.672,"endTime":967.508,"body":"You always never"},{"startTime":964.672,"endTime":967.508,"body":"you never hear your own questions of why"},{"startTime":967.508,"endTime":969.927,"body":"you need to talk to people. Right? Right."},{"startTime":969.927,"endTime":973.597,"body":"that being said, Taylor had this story"},{"startTime":969.927,"endTime":973.597,"body":"that was like this crazy"},{"startTime":973.806,"endTime":978.435,"body":"Marx brother type story"},{"startTime":973.806,"endTime":978.435,"body":"where his parents bought him a monkey."},{"startTime":978.519,"endTime":981.397,"body":"It was his uncle from the circus."},{"startTime":981.397,"endTime":984.984,"body":"Vargas Oh, oh."},{"startTime":985.067,"endTime":988.904,"body":"And the monkey came in the house,"},{"startTime":985.067,"endTime":988.904,"body":"and it was his cousin."},{"startTime":988.988,"endTime":992.282,"body":"Negras Oh, the monkey was jerking"},{"startTime":992.282,"endTime":995.285,"body":"off in the fur coats in the parents"},{"startTime":992.282,"endTime":995.285,"body":"bedroom."},{"startTime":995.327,"endTime":999.331,"body":"Well, running up a telephone pole"},{"startTime":995.327,"endTime":999.331,"body":"at one point and chasing the monkey."},{"startTime":999.331,"endTime":1001.291,"body":"It was really like Three Stooges."},{"startTime":1001.291,"endTime":1003.794,"body":"Yeah. Then maybe at, like, Luna Park."},{"startTime":1003.794,"endTime":1005.629,"body":"He tells a story over the course of"},{"startTime":1005.629,"endTime":1009.425,"body":"the years and I'll have, you"},{"startTime":1005.629,"endTime":1009.425,"body":"know, has had numerous residences,"},{"startTime":1009.425,"endTime":1014.555,"body":"about ten residences"},{"startTime":1009.425,"endTime":1014.555,"body":"of 7 to 1 years around Los Angeles."},{"startTime":1014.555,"endTime":1018.559,"body":"when we were at the block downtown"},{"startTime":1014.555,"endTime":1018.559,"body":"and the beautiful speakeasy room,"},{"startTime":1018.642,"endTime":1020.853,"body":"it was near the end of Taylor's life."},{"startTime":1020.853,"endTime":1023.856,"body":"Oh, he revisited the story many times,"},{"startTime":1023.939,"endTime":1027.776,"body":"both with us,"},{"startTime":1023.939,"endTime":1027.776,"body":"and he'd written it out and done it in"},{"startTime":1027.776,"endTime":1030.946,"body":"storytelling shows and put one into"},{"startTime":1027.776,"endTime":1030.946,"body":"He was really wanted."},{"startTime":1030.946,"endTime":1033.365,"body":"This monkey and monkey, that's something."},{"startTime":1033.365,"endTime":1039.079,"body":"And of course, in comedy, you know, a"},{"startTime":1033.365,"endTime":1039.079,"body":"monkey story is almost archetypal"},{"startTime":1039.163,"endTime":1039.872,"body":"about the monkey."},{"startTime":1039.872,"endTime":1041.165,"body":"You are talking about yourself."},{"startTime":1041.165,"endTime":1043.834,"body":"You know, I just think of Dana going,"},{"startTime":1041.165,"endTime":1043.834,"body":"I'm just. A dancer, right?"},{"startTime":1043.834,"endTime":1044.543,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":1044.543,"endTime":1047.921,"body":"there's a moment in a story, the last time"},{"startTime":1044.543,"endTime":1047.921,"body":"I heard him tell it, where he says,"},{"startTime":1048.005,"endTime":1050.674,"body":"and then I held the monkey in my arm."},{"startTime":1050.674,"endTime":1052.885,"body":"And I look deep into the monkeys."},{"startTime":1052.885,"endTime":1053.886,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1053.886,"endTime":1056.889,"body":"And I knew unconditional love"},{"startTime":1053.886,"endTime":1056.889,"body":"for the first time."},{"startTime":1056.972,"endTime":1058.932,"body":"Oh, I say."},{"startTime":1058.932,"endTime":1065.064,"body":"Oh, how that story changed"},{"startTime":1058.932,"endTime":1065.064,"body":"from this three Stooges."},{"startTime":1065.147,"endTime":1066.482,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":1066.482,"endTime":1071.653,"body":"To a transcendent religious experience."},{"startTime":1071.653,"endTime":1075.282,"body":"And that monkey was. Whom you."},{"startTime":1075.365,"endTime":1079.62,"body":"Know, we also, you know, Big Chuck"},{"startTime":1075.365,"endTime":1079.62,"body":"Negron was in three Dog Night, right?"},{"startTime":1079.62,"endTime":1080.579,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1080.579,"endTime":1081.455,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":1081.455,"endTime":1083.665,"body":"You know why they call three Dog Night."},{"startTime":1081.455,"endTime":1083.665,"body":"And they go."},{"startTime":1083.665,"endTime":1086.502,"body":"Because that's how cold you could tell it"},{"startTime":1086.502,"endTime":1089.713,"body":"was was by how many dogs"},{"startTime":1086.502,"endTime":1089.713,"body":"you kept in the bed. So."},{"startTime":1089.755,"endTime":1093.801,"body":"Oh, really cold night. That kind of"},{"startTime":1093.884,"endTime":1094.551,"body":"was great."},{"startTime":1094.551,"endTime":1097.596,"body":"But. So wait, so did he did the monkey,"},{"startTime":1094.551,"endTime":1097.596,"body":"did he live"},{"startTime":1097.638,"endTime":1099.848,"body":"I mean, did he get to keep the monkey?"},{"startTime":1099.848,"endTime":1101.308,"body":"I don't give a shit about any of it."},{"startTime":1101.308,"endTime":1103.602,"body":"I just want to know if the monkeys are"},{"startTime":1101.308,"endTime":1103.602,"body":"okay."},{"startTime":1103.602,"endTime":1104.52,"body":"Can I take."},{"startTime":1104.52,"endTime":1107.022,"body":"Can I take him home? Where is he?"},{"startTime":1107.022,"endTime":1109.149,"body":"Is he in an old monkey's home."},{"startTime":1109.149,"endTime":1112.152,"body":"Of the animal? Knickerbocker."},{"startTime":1112.194,"endTime":1114.154,"body":"I'm going to have to go. Okay."},{"startTime":1114.154,"endTime":1115.656,"body":"I'm going to take care of the monkey."},{"startTime":1115.656,"endTime":1118.033,"body":"I'm taking him out of the animal"},{"startTime":1115.656,"endTime":1118.033,"body":"shelter. Amazing."},{"startTime":1118.033,"endTime":1120.702,"body":"He does have that ark, though."},{"startTime":1118.033,"endTime":1120.702,"body":"And the pieces are wide."},{"startTime":1120.702,"endTime":1124.414,"body":"Yeah, Yeah, but he does do that"},{"startTime":1120.702,"endTime":1124.414,"body":"where he has some, like,"},{"startTime":1124.498,"endTime":1126.458,"body":"not every time, but he does have that."},{"startTime":1126.458,"endTime":1130.17,"body":"Well, as you would have known him later"},{"startTime":1126.458,"endTime":1130.17,"body":"in his career."},{"startTime":1130.17,"endTime":1130.712,"body":"He's not."},{"startTime":1130.712,"endTime":1134.216,"body":"I guess I'm saying the way"},{"startTime":1130.712,"endTime":1134.216,"body":"an artist can change that."},{"startTime":1134.341,"endTime":1137.136,"body":"You know, he didn't have that tenderness"},{"startTime":1134.341,"endTime":1137.136,"body":"when he told that story."},{"startTime":1137.136,"endTime":1137.636,"body":"Luna Park."},{"startTime":1137.636,"endTime":1139.263,"body":"It's just like, Yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":1139.263,"endTime":1142.141,"body":"Gone to that moment. Oh."},{"startTime":1142.141,"endTime":1145.185,"body":"That is a teaching story"},{"startTime":1142.141,"endTime":1145.185,"body":"that I use with clients"},{"startTime":1145.185,"endTime":1150.357,"body":"because I say, you know, you change"},{"startTime":1145.185,"endTime":1150.357,"body":"and the same story evolves."},{"startTime":1150.399,"endTime":1151.733,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1151.733,"endTime":1155.779,"body":"It's a different sequence of events,"},{"startTime":1151.733,"endTime":1155.779,"body":"but it is a different story."},{"startTime":1155.863,"endTime":1157.239,"body":"A song changes meaning."},{"startTime":1157.239,"endTime":1158.615,"body":"Yeah. 20 years later."},{"startTime":1158.615,"endTime":1161.702,"body":"When you see a performer"},{"startTime":1158.615,"endTime":1161.702,"body":"sing that one and something"},{"startTime":1161.702,"endTime":1165.038,"body":"that they've been singing a million times"},{"startTime":1161.702,"endTime":1165.038,"body":"and how it feels like it's"},{"startTime":1165.122,"endTime":1168.709,"body":"just completely different"},{"startTime":1165.122,"endTime":1168.709,"body":"to hear Joni Mitchell sing both sides."},{"startTime":1168.792,"endTime":1171.795,"body":"Oh, that. As an 80 year old. Yeah."},{"startTime":1171.795,"endTime":1174.631,"body":"I've joining Mitch. Or have you seen okay."},{"startTime":1174.715,"endTime":1176.175,"body":"I've been to her house a few times."},{"startTime":1176.175,"endTime":1180.262,"body":"Was my own a cigaret that she left in."},{"startTime":1180.47,"endTime":1183.432,"body":"Oh. Oh. Okay."},{"startTime":1183.432,"endTime":1183.724,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1183.724,"endTime":1186.727,"body":"In the nineties with Henry Rollins"},{"startTime":1183.724,"endTime":1186.727,"body":"and like a poetry tour"},{"startTime":1186.727,"endTime":1189.188,"body":"my friend's of his bottle cap"},{"startTime":1186.727,"endTime":1189.188,"body":"and she carried it in her purse."},{"startTime":1189.188,"endTime":1190.606,"body":"I'm all about what kind of cigaret."},{"startTime":1190.606,"endTime":1193.483,"body":"Okay well Oh. Brand."},{"startTime":1193.483,"endTime":1195.11,"body":"It's an American spirit."},{"startTime":1195.11,"endTime":1195.903,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1195.903,"endTime":1198.906,"body":"And first we were right into one dinner,"},{"startTime":1195.903,"endTime":1198.906,"body":"Mitch and I,"},{"startTime":1198.906,"endTime":1203.493,"body":"and it was up at Sunset Plaza, in fact,"},{"startTime":1198.906,"endTime":1203.493,"body":"this is tender."},{"startTime":1203.702,"endTime":1207.164,"body":"I had plans with Taylor that night,"},{"startTime":1203.702,"endTime":1207.164,"body":"and we were invited"},{"startTime":1207.164,"endTime":1210.167,"body":"last minute"},{"startTime":1207.164,"endTime":1210.167,"body":"to have dinner with Joni Mitchell."},{"startTime":1210.209,"endTime":1210.792,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1210.792,"endTime":1212.127,"body":"I was like, I mean, there's two."},{"startTime":1212.127,"endTime":1212.878,"body":"I'm sorry."},{"startTime":1212.878,"endTime":1213.837,"body":"I have to."},{"startTime":1213.837,"endTime":1217.841,"body":"And he was like,"},{"startTime":1213.837,"endTime":1217.841,"body":"Well, can I come? I was like. You can."},{"startTime":1217.925,"endTime":1220.01,"body":"I'm near the end of his life."},{"startTime":1220.01,"endTime":1223.388,"body":"So no. Wow."},{"startTime":1223.472,"endTime":1226.225,"body":"That's a touchy"},{"startTime":1223.472,"endTime":1226.225,"body":"that's a really touchy thing."},{"startTime":1226.225,"endTime":1228.56,"body":"Like, who's going to die first?"},{"startTime":1228.56,"endTime":1231.563,"body":"I think it's going to be Joni Mitchell"},{"startTime":1231.813,"endTime":1233.941,"body":"that it's that that question."},{"startTime":1233.941,"endTime":1235.4,"body":"Oprah or Joan Haim, right?"},{"startTime":1235.4,"endTime":1238.403,"body":"Yeah. Choice."},{"startTime":1238.445,"endTime":1240.322,"body":"So you need to decide that."},{"startTime":1240.322,"endTime":1242.658,"body":"But there goes so."},{"startTime":1242.658,"endTime":1245.285,"body":"But you really can't do a plus one"},{"startTime":1242.658,"endTime":1245.285,"body":"their plus one is."},{"startTime":1245.285,"endTime":1248.038,"body":"I. Was already. Exactly right."},{"startTime":1248.038,"endTime":1252.209,"body":"Oh because Mitch knew"},{"startTime":1248.038,"endTime":1252.209,"body":"her he'd worked with her before. Oh."},{"startTime":1252.292,"endTime":1253.21,"body":"Oh, okay."},{"startTime":1253.21,"endTime":1255.17,"body":"Invited Mitch and me. Awesome. Yeah."},{"startTime":1255.17,"endTime":1257.881,"body":"It's your second cousin twice removed."},{"startTime":1255.17,"endTime":1257.881,"body":"Yeah. Oh, okay."},{"startTime":1257.881,"endTime":1259.258,"body":"I was invited."},{"startTime":1259.258,"endTime":1260.467,"body":"I wasn't invited."},{"startTime":1260.467,"endTime":1262.261,"body":"was too far out in the invitation."},{"startTime":1262.261,"endTime":1266.682,"body":"Yeah, So, I mean, it was, you know,"},{"startTime":1262.261,"endTime":1266.682,"body":"you can bring Beth or not."},{"startTime":1266.682,"endTime":1269.393,"body":"You can bring. Something,"},{"startTime":1266.682,"endTime":1269.393,"body":"but he had to ask. You."},{"startTime":1269.393,"endTime":1271.77,"body":"Course it, you know."},{"startTime":1271.77,"endTime":1272.98,"body":"And I wish I could of. Sure."},{"startTime":1272.98,"endTime":1276.024,"body":"So we get there"},{"startTime":1272.98,"endTime":1276.024,"body":"and it's one of those outdoor"},{"startTime":1276.024,"endTime":1277.192,"body":"I can't remember"},{"startTime":1276.024,"endTime":1277.192,"body":"the name of the restaurant"},{"startTime":1277.192,"endTime":1279.903,"body":"but I've been since that was"},{"startTime":1277.192,"endTime":1279.903,"body":"and it's outside so she can smoke."},{"startTime":1279.903,"endTime":1281.697,"body":"And I'm like. Wow."},{"startTime":1281.697,"endTime":1285.45,"body":"So I'm going to say ten, maybe 12."},{"startTime":1285.45,"endTime":1288.036,"body":"And she sits in the middle"},{"startTime":1285.45,"endTime":1288.036,"body":"and I end up being seated."},{"startTime":1288.036,"endTime":1292.457,"body":"Exactly across, Oh, now, you know,"},{"startTime":1292.541,"endTime":1296.253,"body":"I said to me is when we got out of the car"},{"startTime":1292.541,"endTime":1296.253,"body":"was like, I'm not gonna say anything."},{"startTime":1296.295,"endTime":1298.213,"body":"Like all I'm going to do"},{"startTime":1296.295,"endTime":1298.213,"body":"is not say anything."},{"startTime":1298.213,"endTime":1302.342,"body":"That's my entire goal tonight. Mm"},{"startTime":1302.384,"endTime":1304.97,"body":"Ha. Where do you begin?"},{"startTime":1304.97,"endTime":1307.222,"body":"Where do you begin? Yeah. Right."},{"startTime":1307.222,"endTime":1311.268,"body":"You know, Phoebe Bridgers album, second"},{"startTime":1307.222,"endTime":1311.268,"body":"album was called Punisher,"},{"startTime":1311.268,"endTime":1313.27,"body":"and I didn't actually know the word for it"},{"startTime":1311.268,"endTime":1313.27,"body":"before. She's."},{"startTime":1313.27,"endTime":1315.772,"body":"Anyway, you don't want to be that."},{"startTime":1313.27,"endTime":1315.772,"body":"Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":1315.772,"endTime":1318.692,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1315.772,"endTime":1318.692,"body":"So anyway, Johnny. So dinner chitchat."},{"startTime":1318.692,"endTime":1322.821,"body":"Then Joni starts telling stories,"},{"startTime":1318.692,"endTime":1322.821,"body":"ask her out."},{"startTime":1322.863,"endTime":1325.49,"body":"You know, all her songs would indicate,"},{"startTime":1325.49,"endTime":1328.66,"body":"like, an amazing story teller,"},{"startTime":1325.49,"endTime":1328.66,"body":"and she's worked on these stories."},{"startTime":1328.66,"endTime":1330.62,"body":"I mean, hello? Yeah."},{"startTime":1330.62,"endTime":1334.249,"body":"She's told this story, so she's telling,"},{"startTime":1330.62,"endTime":1334.249,"body":"and then she's like, Oh, it's too much."},{"startTime":1334.249,"endTime":1338.879,"body":"And then everybody goes, Oh, ha,"},{"startTime":1334.249,"endTime":1338.879,"body":"yeah, you're so good."},{"startTime":1338.879,"endTime":1340.339,"body":"Of course, you know. Yeah."},{"startTime":1340.339,"endTime":1343.8,"body":"quiet and smart, you know, So"},{"startTime":1340.339,"endTime":1343.8,"body":"and at one point in the second story,"},{"startTime":1343.8,"endTime":1346.803,"body":"there's somebody who reaches out his arm"},{"startTime":1343.8,"endTime":1346.803,"body":"to her."},{"startTime":1346.97,"endTime":1351.808,"body":"And in that point of the story,"},{"startTime":1346.97,"endTime":1351.808,"body":"she reaches out her hand to me"},{"startTime":1351.892,"endTime":1353.268,"body":"and holds my hand."},{"startTime":1353.268,"endTime":1354.061,"body":"Oh, wow."},{"startTime":1354.061,"endTime":1358.106,"body":"Looking at me now"},{"startTime":1354.061,"endTime":1358.106,"body":"because of Uncap the Listener. Mm."},{"startTime":1358.19,"endTime":1359.191,"body":"Professional."},{"startTime":1359.191,"endTime":1360.859,"body":"Mm hmm. Laughing."},{"startTime":1360.859,"endTime":1363.612,"body":"And so she's, like, loving it because"},{"startTime":1360.859,"endTime":1363.612,"body":"I'm, like, a professional listener."},{"startTime":1363.612,"endTime":1364.821,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1364.821,"endTime":1365.489,"body":"And and."},{"startTime":1365.489,"endTime":1367.699,"body":"And she's telling you the story"},{"startTime":1365.489,"endTime":1367.699,"body":"and the thing, and, ah."},{"startTime":1367.699,"endTime":1371.286,"body":"And as she gets up to smoke cigarets,"},{"startTime":1367.699,"endTime":1371.286,"body":"she pats me on the back,"},{"startTime":1371.453,"endTime":1373.372,"body":"and she's like, patting me on the head."},{"startTime":1373.372,"endTime":1375.29,"body":"I'm like, I can't literally stand up."},{"startTime":1375.29,"endTime":1378.543,"body":"And this is happening"},{"startTime":1375.29,"endTime":1378.543,"body":"at one of the lowest points of my life."},{"startTime":1378.627,"endTime":1380.504,"body":"Happening in my life."},{"startTime":1380.504,"endTime":1382.881,"body":"You know, I'm divorcing"},{"startTime":1382.881,"endTime":1385.884,"body":"bankruptcy"},{"startTime":1382.881,"endTime":1385.884,"body":"in literally the whole thing is happening."},{"startTime":1385.884,"endTime":1387.719,"body":"Mm hmm. Joni Mitchell is patting the hand."},{"startTime":1387.719,"endTime":1391.014,"body":"I am like, God is telling me"},{"startTime":1391.139,"endTime":1394.142,"body":"that everything is going to work out"},{"startTime":1391.139,"endTime":1394.142,"body":"through Joni Mitchell."},{"startTime":1394.142,"endTime":1394.684,"body":"She is."},{"startTime":1394.684,"endTime":1397.437,"body":"She is God right now. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1397.437,"endTime":1398.897,"body":"And this great night."},{"startTime":1398.897,"endTime":1401.733,"body":"And there is a part of it. We're like,"},{"startTime":1398.897,"endTime":1401.733,"body":"her friends are like."},{"startTime":1401.733,"endTime":1403.86,"body":"But you could be on on a cab"},{"startTime":1401.733,"endTime":1403.86,"body":"and tell stories."},{"startTime":1403.86,"endTime":1406.154,"body":"Yeah. Huh."},{"startTime":1403.86,"endTime":1406.154,"body":"That could help you with your book."},{"startTime":1406.154,"endTime":1407.114,"body":"You know, there's"},{"startTime":1407.114,"endTime":1411.201,"body":"a part of that happening, and I'm trying"},{"startTime":1407.114,"endTime":1411.201,"body":"to not be too pushy about it. Huh?"},{"startTime":1411.284,"endTime":1411.952,"body":"So knowing, like,"},{"startTime":1411.952,"endTime":1415.122,"body":"I could really help her, she keeps saying"},{"startTime":1411.952,"endTime":1415.122,"body":"I can't get my voice in the book."},{"startTime":1415.122,"endTime":1417.833,"body":"I can't get it right. Well,"},{"startTime":1415.122,"endTime":1417.833,"body":"it could really, really help."},{"startTime":1417.833,"endTime":1419.793,"body":"And I love her so much"},{"startTime":1417.833,"endTime":1419.793,"body":"and I really could help."},{"startTime":1419.793,"endTime":1421.628,"body":"And, you know, whatever didn't happen,"},{"startTime":1421.628,"endTime":1425.34,"body":"she was had one night was supposed to come"},{"startTime":1421.628,"endTime":1425.34,"body":"to my cabin, had a stomach ache or."},{"startTime":1425.424,"endTime":1426.55,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1426.55,"endTime":1430.011,"body":"Anyway, I guess we were okay"},{"startTime":1426.55,"endTime":1430.011,"body":"because we got invited again"},{"startTime":1430.053,"endTime":1432.889,"body":"to and, you know, this time"},{"startTime":1430.053,"endTime":1432.889,"body":"to the little door to the thing."},{"startTime":1432.889,"endTime":1434.766,"body":"And there was,"},{"startTime":1432.889,"endTime":1434.766,"body":"you know, celebrities and things."},{"startTime":1434.766,"endTime":1439.521,"body":"And I wasn't sitting there or whatever,"},{"startTime":1434.766,"endTime":1439.521,"body":"and then we got invited again."},{"startTime":1439.604,"endTime":1442.983,"body":"Oh, another restaurant in Beverly Hills"},{"startTime":1439.604,"endTime":1442.983,"body":"And this one we're"},{"startTime":1442.983,"endTime":1444.526,"body":"all going to go to our house afterwards."},{"startTime":1444.526,"endTime":1447.404,"body":"Oh, wow. Forehand. No. Okay."},{"startTime":1447.404,"endTime":1449.906,"body":"but she wants to smoke in the car"},{"startTime":1447.404,"endTime":1449.906,"body":"and she can't smoke in that car"},{"startTime":1449.906,"endTime":1450.532,"body":"that she came in."},{"startTime":1450.532,"endTime":1453.493,"body":"So she's going to drive with Mitch,"},{"startTime":1450.532,"endTime":1453.493,"body":"huh? Oh."},{"startTime":1453.493,"endTime":1454.035,"body":"Oh, of course."},{"startTime":1454.035,"endTime":1456.371,"body":"You know, open the door."},{"startTime":1454.035,"endTime":1456.371,"body":"She gets in the front seat."},{"startTime":1456.371,"endTime":1457.873,"body":"She's smoking."},{"startTime":1457.873,"endTime":1459.749,"body":"Okay. Are you a smoker?"},{"startTime":1457.873,"endTime":1459.749,"body":"Did you ever. Smoke?"},{"startTime":1459.749,"endTime":1462.419,"body":"I did. Ever smoked."},{"startTime":1459.749,"endTime":1462.419,"body":"But I'm. Okay. I'm guessing."},{"startTime":1462.419,"endTime":1463.211,"body":"But I love. It."},{"startTime":1463.211,"endTime":1464.629,"body":"But I'm fine. Yeah. Yeah, We're."},{"startTime":1464.629,"endTime":1467.257,"body":"Not. Whatever. Who cares?"},{"startTime":1464.629,"endTime":1467.257,"body":"She could do anything. Exactly. Yeah."},{"startTime":1467.257,"endTime":1470.343,"body":"Yeah, right. Naked. Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":1470.385,"endTime":1472.053,"body":"Okay. Yeah."},{"startTime":1472.053,"endTime":1474.306,"body":"That's so. Yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":1474.306,"endTime":1475.849,"body":"What do I have to cancel, right?"},{"startTime":1475.849,"endTime":1476.057,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1476.057,"endTime":1480.77,"body":"She's not like Sylvester"},{"startTime":1476.057,"endTime":1480.77,"body":"Stallone who shits in tubs at hotel rooms."},{"startTime":1480.77,"endTime":1484.149,"body":"Yeah, Yeah, we found that out, by the way."},{"startTime":1484.191,"endTime":1485.859,"body":"Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was at."},{"startTime":1485.859,"endTime":1488.153,"body":"He was asked"},{"startTime":1485.859,"endTime":1488.153,"body":"not to come back to this hotel"},{"startTime":1488.153,"endTime":1492.699,"body":"because he going to the same, like,"},{"startTime":1488.153,"endTime":1492.699,"body":"five star hotel and shitting in the tub."},{"startTime":1492.908,"endTime":1495.702,"body":"Okay. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah."},{"startTime":1495.702,"endTime":1499.498,"body":"But you're what you're saying,"},{"startTime":1495.702,"endTime":1499.498,"body":"Beth, is it would be all right with you"},{"startTime":1499.498,"endTime":1502.626,"body":"if Joni Mitchell said"},{"startTime":1499.498,"endTime":1502.626,"body":"I'm going to have to crap in your car."},{"startTime":1502.626,"endTime":1503.668,"body":"Yeah, go ahead."},{"startTime":1503.668,"endTime":1506.588,"body":"It would be okay, cause,"},{"startTime":1503.668,"endTime":1506.588,"body":"you know, she'd never say yeah."},{"startTime":1506.588,"endTime":1507.589,"body":"To go back just really fast."},{"startTime":1507.589,"endTime":1510.55,"body":"You get invited like the second time"},{"startTime":1507.589,"endTime":1510.55,"body":"and the third time is"},{"startTime":1510.55,"endTime":1513.261,"body":"that even you're like,"},{"startTime":1510.55,"endTime":1513.261,"body":"Now would we say no?"},{"startTime":1513.261,"endTime":1515.972,"body":"Now I'm just like, there's always going"},{"startTime":1513.261,"endTime":1515.972,"body":"to be 20 people there."},{"startTime":1515.972,"endTime":1516.848,"body":"Yeah, right."},{"startTime":1516.848,"endTime":1522.27,"body":"So you've been somehow included in"},{"startTime":1516.848,"endTime":1522.27,"body":"in the Fun Posse for a minute."},{"startTime":1522.354,"endTime":1523.897,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. Laughs."},{"startTime":1523.897,"endTime":1526.316,"body":"You know, it's not going to be like you're"},{"startTime":1523.897,"endTime":1526.316,"body":"you're never going to."},{"startTime":1526.316,"endTime":1527.442,"body":"Be coming out in the will."},{"startTime":1527.442,"endTime":1530.07,"body":"You're not,"},{"startTime":1527.442,"endTime":1530.07,"body":"you know, you're never going to come close"},{"startTime":1530.07,"endTime":1534.074,"body":"but it's like an opportunity"},{"startTime":1530.07,"endTime":1534.074,"body":"to be around something."},{"startTime":1534.157,"endTime":1536.785,"body":"Yeah, it's a gift."},{"startTime":1534.157,"endTime":1536.785,"body":"Yeah. You're just going to enjoy this."},{"startTime":1536.785,"endTime":1539.704,"body":"Right? People live in orbits. Yeah."},{"startTime":1539.704,"endTime":1541.957,"body":"And you're going to be in the orbit"},{"startTime":1539.704,"endTime":1541.957,"body":"for a while, and you're just."},{"startTime":1541.957,"endTime":1543.667,"body":"Do you just appreciate it?"},{"startTime":1543.667,"endTime":1544.626,"body":"I did. And so."},{"startTime":1544.626,"endTime":1548.463,"body":"But she did smoke and ash"},{"startTime":1544.626,"endTime":1548.463,"body":"fell on the seat."},{"startTime":1548.63,"endTime":1551.466,"body":"I mean fell on the,"},{"startTime":1548.63,"endTime":1551.466,"body":"you know, the carpet. Yeah."},{"startTime":1551.466,"endTime":1553.301,"body":"And we got back into the car."},{"startTime":1553.301,"endTime":1557.013,"body":"I didn't know that, but we got back into"},{"startTime":1553.301,"endTime":1557.013,"body":"the car to go home and I saw this ass."},{"startTime":1557.055,"endTime":1558.265,"body":"We did a touching."},{"startTime":1558.265,"endTime":1559.599,"body":"Ha ha ha ha."},{"startTime":1559.599,"endTime":1561.518,"body":"That actually lasted about nine months."},{"startTime":1561.518,"endTime":1562.519,"body":"Ha ha ha ha."},{"startTime":1562.519,"endTime":1565.188,"body":"Finally, just like, you know, blew away."},{"startTime":1565.188,"endTime":1569.693,"body":"But she also left an American spirit pack"},{"startTime":1565.188,"endTime":1569.693,"body":"with one cigaret in it."},{"startTime":1569.776,"endTime":1571.82,"body":"And I have left on my bureau."},{"startTime":1571.82,"endTime":1574.781,"body":"Oh, so cigaret and it's a touchdown."},{"startTime":1574.781,"endTime":1577.45,"body":"But I should have refrained. Really?"},{"startTime":1574.781,"endTime":1577.45,"body":"Yes. Hmm."},{"startTime":1577.45,"endTime":1582.497,"body":"It's just this like memory,"},{"startTime":1577.45,"endTime":1582.497,"body":"but then it's a yellow act"},{"startTime":1582.581,"endTime":1585.292,"body":"and there is one final"},{"startTime":1582.581,"endTime":1585.292,"body":"and then came New Year's"},{"startTime":1585.292,"endTime":1589.045,"body":"and Mitch was in New York"},{"startTime":1585.292,"endTime":1589.045,"body":"doing his Sandra Bernhard shows"},{"startTime":1589.045,"endTime":1594.301,"body":"and I was had a cold and I was in"},{"startTime":1589.045,"endTime":1594.301,"body":"my place was so cold, freezing cold."},{"startTime":1594.384,"endTime":1599.18,"body":"And I was like, I'm really feeling"},{"startTime":1594.384,"endTime":1599.18,"body":"I was in a little bit of a pity pool"},{"startTime":1599.264,"endTime":1602.726,"body":"and the phone rang and it was her friend"},{"startTime":1599.264,"endTime":1602.726,"body":"who invited us, Charles"},{"startTime":1602.726,"endTime":1604.644,"body":"and he said,"},{"startTime":1602.726,"endTime":1604.644,"body":"Oh, what are you doing tonight?"},{"startTime":1604.644,"endTime":1609.149,"body":"You want to spend"},{"startTime":1604.644,"endTime":1609.149,"body":"New Year's Eve with me? And Joni was"},{"startTime":1609.232,"endTime":1612.193,"body":"and it"},{"startTime":1609.232,"endTime":1612.193,"body":"was like we went to this beautiful dinner"},{"startTime":1612.193,"endTime":1616.281,"body":"in Beverly Hills, and she literally"},{"startTime":1612.193,"endTime":1616.281,"body":"it was just the three of us. Wow."},{"startTime":1616.406,"endTime":1618.074,"body":"Literally told me, like, everything."},{"startTime":1618.074,"endTime":1622.579,"body":"The problem is that I am in the now"},{"startTime":1618.074,"endTime":1622.579,"body":"person doesn't remember, like,"},{"startTime":1622.621,"endTime":1623.955,"body":"historical detail."},{"startTime":1623.955,"endTime":1628.168,"body":"And I'm like, I'm"},{"startTime":1623.955,"endTime":1628.168,"body":"sitting there literally going like."},{"startTime":1628.251,"endTime":1630.17,"body":"Ha ha, something she's."},{"startTime":1630.17,"endTime":1633.798,"body":"Telling her, like,"},{"startTime":1630.17,"endTime":1633.798,"body":"And all I could do is experience it,"},{"startTime":1634.007,"endTime":1637.844,"body":"barely remembering any of it,"},{"startTime":1634.007,"endTime":1637.844,"body":"but having the experience And then"},{"startTime":1637.844,"endTime":1641.681,"body":"we went back to her house and we sang"},{"startTime":1637.844,"endTime":1641.681,"body":"and I made her laugh with singing."},{"startTime":1641.681,"endTime":1644.351,"body":"And I have to say"},{"startTime":1641.681,"endTime":1644.351,"body":"it really was transformative."},{"startTime":1644.351,"endTime":1647.062,"body":"And I'm so grateful"},{"startTime":1644.351,"endTime":1647.062,"body":"if Joni maybe were listening."},{"startTime":1647.062,"endTime":1648.98,"body":"Ha ha."},{"startTime":1648.98,"endTime":1651.107,"body":"Does she play the piano at home?"},{"startTime":1648.98,"endTime":1651.107,"body":"Or she may."},{"startTime":1651.107,"endTime":1652.734,"body":"She did it for us. Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":1652.734,"endTime":1655.695,"body":"You did get to play the piano,"},{"startTime":1652.734,"endTime":1655.695,"body":"which, you know, it was beautiful to me."},{"startTime":1655.695,"endTime":1656.446,"body":"Oh, yeah."},{"startTime":1656.446,"endTime":1657.364,"body":"Yeah. Okay. Yeah."},{"startTime":1657.364,"endTime":1658.698,"body":"Not that night, but other."},{"startTime":1658.698,"endTime":1660.325,"body":"We had gone other nights to her house."},{"startTime":1660.325,"endTime":1662.869,"body":"Mitch is, by the way,"},{"startTime":1660.325,"endTime":1662.869,"body":"a legendary piano player."},{"startTime":1662.869,"endTime":1666.373,"body":"And also he's a composer."},{"startTime":1662.869,"endTime":1666.373,"body":"Correct? Is Mitch."},{"startTime":1666.456,"endTime":1668.291,"body":"That would be Mitch"},{"startTime":1668.375,"endTime":1669.292,"body":"Kaplan."},{"startTime":1669.292,"endTime":1669.876,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1669.876,"endTime":1676.216,"body":"he has had such a multi"},{"startTime":1669.876,"endTime":1676.216,"body":"what's the word, multi tracks here?"},{"startTime":1676.257,"endTime":1677.133,"body":"I don't know. Music."},{"startTime":1677.133,"endTime":1679.427,"body":"All the other areas of music."},{"startTime":1679.427,"endTime":1680.428,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":1680.428,"endTime":1682.138,"body":"Multi-Hyphenate Uh huh."},{"startTime":1682.138,"endTime":1684.808,"body":"Because he's a songwriter."},{"startTime":1684.808,"endTime":1685.684,"body":"You're gold requisite."},{"startTime":1685.684,"endTime":1688.645,"body":"Oh. Beth Everyone has gold records"},{"startTime":1685.684,"endTime":1688.645,"body":"and uh huh."},{"startTime":1688.645,"endTime":1692.148,"body":"Oh yeah."},{"startTime":1692.232,"endTime":1692.899,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":1692.899,"endTime":1697.07,"body":"so his songwriter"},{"startTime":1692.899,"endTime":1697.07,"body":"and for years and the publishing deals"},{"startTime":1697.07,"endTime":1701.074,"body":"and you know all that"},{"startTime":1697.07,"endTime":1701.074,"body":"then he has toured with Sandra around Mm."},{"startTime":1701.157,"endTime":1704.16,"body":"Broadway with her and at TV etc.."},{"startTime":1704.244,"endTime":1707.038,"body":"We're talking about Sandra Bullock"},{"startTime":1704.244,"endTime":1707.038,"body":"by the way."},{"startTime":1707.038,"endTime":1709.833,"body":"I know, I know."},{"startTime":1709.833,"endTime":1713.503,"body":"You like the curator."},{"startTime":1713.545,"endTime":1715.296,"body":"Do you recognize yourself in that word."},{"startTime":1715.296,"endTime":1715.755,"body":"Yeah, I."},{"startTime":1715.755,"endTime":1719.3,"body":"Love that word for on camera to be"},{"startTime":1715.755,"endTime":1719.3,"body":"you know, I do consider myself"},{"startTime":1719.3,"endTime":1721.636,"body":"a producer"},{"startTime":1719.3,"endTime":1721.636,"body":"though. I didn't at the beginning."},{"startTime":1721.636,"endTime":1724.514,"body":"I do consider a curation what I do."},{"startTime":1724.514,"endTime":1725.223,"body":"Uh, there's"},{"startTime":1725.223,"endTime":1726.349,"body":"also I mean, you were talking about"},{"startTime":1726.349,"endTime":1729.185,"body":"you have clients now"},{"startTime":1726.349,"endTime":1729.185,"body":"because you're doing coaching."},{"startTime":1729.185,"endTime":1729.978,"body":"You really work."},{"startTime":1729.978,"endTime":1732.897,"body":"You don't just book people in on cabaret"},{"startTime":1729.978,"endTime":1732.897,"body":"like you shape your show."},{"startTime":1732.897,"endTime":1733.857,"body":"Thank you."},{"startTime":1733.857,"endTime":1735.775,"body":"Mm. That's true. It's true."},{"startTime":1735.775,"endTime":1736.735,"body":"I really work on it."},{"startTime":1736.735,"endTime":1740.029,"body":"And I have, you know, from the beginning,"},{"startTime":1736.735,"endTime":1740.029,"body":"developed systems"},{"startTime":1740.029,"endTime":1744.576,"body":"of who would go with who and what kind of,"},{"startTime":1740.029,"endTime":1744.576,"body":"you know, what's too much of something."},{"startTime":1744.576,"endTime":1748.204,"body":"And I really think about the right"},{"startTime":1744.576,"endTime":1748.204,"body":"and what would be great for a performer,"},{"startTime":1748.288,"endTime":1751.207,"body":"because as a performer,"},{"startTime":1748.288,"endTime":1751.207,"body":"you don't want to perform with the Oh,"},{"startTime":1751.207,"endTime":1755.336,"body":"there have been very few"},{"startTime":1751.207,"endTime":1755.336,"body":"but occasionally on weaknesses like that."},{"startTime":1755.42,"endTime":1756.671,"body":"Yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":1756.671,"endTime":1761.468,"body":"You always want everyone to shine"},{"startTime":1756.671,"endTime":1761.468,"body":"as you know exactly themselves."},{"startTime":1761.468,"endTime":1767.098,"body":"And most times that would be hard to"},{"startTime":1761.468,"endTime":1767.098,"body":"not have because most of the people that,"},{"startTime":1767.14,"endTime":1772.061,"body":"including both of you who we work with,"},{"startTime":1767.14,"endTime":1772.061,"body":"there is no one really like them."},{"startTime":1772.061,"endTime":1772.812,"body":"I mean, they're"},{"startTime":1772.812,"endTime":1776.316,"body":"so that's what I'm always looking for"},{"startTime":1772.812,"endTime":1776.316,"body":"is the idea of some graphic performer,"},{"startTime":1776.524,"endTime":1779.444,"body":"the person who can't be replicated,"},{"startTime":1776.524,"endTime":1779.444,"body":"the person who nobody's like them."},{"startTime":1779.444,"endTime":1785.074,"body":"And partly it's"},{"startTime":1779.444,"endTime":1785.074,"body":"so simple is the rhythm of their voice."},{"startTime":1785.158,"endTime":1787.911,"body":"It's funny, when we were editing audio,"},{"startTime":1787.911,"endTime":1789.954,"body":"there's a lot of audio of on cap,"},{"startTime":1787.911,"endTime":1789.954,"body":"obviously."},{"startTime":1789.954,"endTime":1793.333,"body":"I'm sure there's"},{"startTime":1789.954,"endTime":1793.333,"body":"been a lot of audio editing."},{"startTime":1793.374,"endTime":1797.754,"body":"I would be in one room like far away"},{"startTime":1793.374,"endTime":1797.754,"body":"and the audio would be going"},{"startTime":1797.837,"endTime":1800.089,"body":"I could tell who it was just by the vague"},{"startTime":1797.837,"endTime":1800.089,"body":"sound of it."},{"startTime":1800.089,"endTime":1801.591,"body":"Uh huh, right."},{"startTime":1801.591,"endTime":1803.051,"body":"The rhythm, right."},{"startTime":1803.051,"endTime":1804.969,"body":"Just the tonality and the rhythm."},{"startTime":1804.969,"endTime":1808.973,"body":"And that is so true of stand up,"},{"startTime":1804.969,"endTime":1808.973,"body":"you know, the rhythm is so much the same."},{"startTime":1808.973,"endTime":1810.517,"body":"And so when people say"},{"startTime":1808.973,"endTime":1810.517,"body":"what's different about it"},{"startTime":1810.517,"endTime":1817.607,"body":"and how they sometimes I say,"},{"startTime":1810.517,"endTime":1817.607,"body":"everybody's in the room rhythm."},{"startTime":1817.69,"endTime":1819.234,"body":"when did you first Wow."},{"startTime":1819.234,"endTime":1821.402,"body":"That's a really good. Who introduced us?"},{"startTime":1821.402,"endTime":1823.029,"body":"I think. Henriette."},{"startTime":1823.029,"endTime":1824.656,"body":"Oh, probably."},{"startTime":1824.656,"endTime":1827.951,"body":"Or did you introduce me to her? No,"},{"startTime":1828.034,"endTime":1829.035,"body":"it had to be Henriette."},{"startTime":1829.035,"endTime":1831.287,"body":"Yeah, and I think it was Luna Park, right?"},{"startTime":1831.287,"endTime":1833.54,"body":"Yeah. Pretty early on, right."},{"startTime":1833.54,"endTime":1837.502,"body":"Julia Sweeney was just here, and"},{"startTime":1833.54,"endTime":1837.502,"body":"it was also a waxing super for Luna Park."},{"startTime":1837.502,"endTime":1839.379,"body":"Oh, it was a magical room."},{"startTime":1839.379,"endTime":1841.798,"body":"Partly because, I mean, a few things."},{"startTime":1841.798,"endTime":1842.632,"body":"There are a few reasons."},{"startTime":1842.632,"endTime":1846.01,"body":"Well, number one, in the nineties,"},{"startTime":1842.632,"endTime":1846.01,"body":"we didn't have cell phones"},{"startTime":1846.094,"endTime":1848.805,"body":"and everybody could say everything."},{"startTime":1848.805,"endTime":1850.64,"body":"Oh, yeah, right?"},{"startTime":1850.64,"endTime":1852.725,"body":"Yeah, everything. We name names."},{"startTime":1852.725,"endTime":1855.895,"body":"You talked about your family"},{"startTime":1852.725,"endTime":1855.895,"body":"in ways that you knew"},{"startTime":1855.895,"endTime":1859.691,"body":"they would never hear of you."},{"startTime":1859.774,"endTime":1861.025,"body":"I mean, dish the dish."},{"startTime":1861.025,"endTime":1862.318,"body":"The people who were in the show"},{"startTime":1862.318,"endTime":1865.321,"body":"would talk about other people in the show"},{"startTime":1862.318,"endTime":1865.321,"body":"that they'd broken up and Greg."},{"startTime":1865.321,"endTime":1867.74,"body":"Oh, God, Yeah. That whole break up."},{"startTime":1867.74,"endTime":1870.577,"body":"David Cross and Greg"},{"startTime":1867.74,"endTime":1870.577,"body":"Barrett were roommates, too."},{"startTime":1870.577,"endTime":1873.58,"body":"I mean, it was very like, chatty that way."},{"startTime":1873.746,"endTime":1877.041,"body":"People would have meetings"},{"startTime":1873.746,"endTime":1877.041,"body":"with executives and name the executive."},{"startTime":1877.25,"endTime":1879.502,"body":"Do you remember"},{"startTime":1877.25,"endTime":1879.502,"body":"when I put my hand on the ceiling"},{"startTime":1879.502,"endTime":1884.007,"body":"and I cut my hand and it went all the way"},{"startTime":1879.502,"endTime":1884.007,"body":"down my arm, The blood."},{"startTime":1884.007,"endTime":1885.341,"body":"Oh, okay."},{"startTime":1885.341,"endTime":1886.217,"body":"But that was fun."},{"startTime":1886.217,"endTime":1887.176,"body":"Oh, totally."},{"startTime":1887.176,"endTime":1890.763,"body":"That I just it was"},{"startTime":1887.176,"endTime":1890.763,"body":"it was actually really funny."},{"startTime":1890.763,"endTime":1893.016,"body":"I mean, I think scary and funny."},{"startTime":1893.016,"endTime":1895.435,"body":"It was those low ceilings, right?"},{"startTime":1895.435,"endTime":1898.354,"body":"You know, perfect comedy room,"},{"startTime":1895.435,"endTime":1898.354,"body":"the lowest possible."},{"startTime":1898.354,"endTime":1898.855,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1898.855,"endTime":1904.027,"body":"And then also, I always talk about this,"},{"startTime":1898.855,"endTime":1904.027,"body":"the architecture of that venue"},{"startTime":1904.11,"endTime":1907.53,"body":"was that, you know, you went upstairs"},{"startTime":1904.11,"endTime":1907.53,"body":"to get into the dining room"},{"startTime":1907.53,"endTime":1909.449,"body":"and then you would go through the door."},{"startTime":1909.449,"endTime":1914.621,"body":"So you really were like closed off"},{"startTime":1909.449,"endTime":1914.621,"body":"and you would go down a flight of stairs."},{"startTime":1914.704,"endTime":1918.833,"body":"We were in like descending"},{"startTime":1914.704,"endTime":1918.833,"body":"into the subconscious"},{"startTime":1918.917,"endTime":1920.251,"body":"of mirror, like your face."},{"startTime":1920.251,"endTime":1923.671,"body":"Your ego says. Oh,"},{"startTime":1923.755,"endTime":1925.965,"body":"then you."},{"startTime":1925.965,"endTime":1927.675,"body":"Giant crystal chandelier"},{"startTime":1927.675,"endTime":1930.678,"body":"above your head"},{"startTime":1927.675,"endTime":1930.678,"body":"as if it was heavenly and magical."},{"startTime":1930.845,"endTime":1934.724,"body":"And then you turned the corner"},{"startTime":1930.845,"endTime":1934.724,"body":"and went down."},{"startTime":1934.807,"endTime":1935.975,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1935.975,"endTime":1938.978,"body":"And then you remember"},{"startTime":1935.975,"endTime":1938.978,"body":"that people would sit on the stairs like."},{"startTime":1939.062,"endTime":1940.563,"body":"Oh, sure, yeah."},{"startTime":1940.563,"endTime":1944.067,"body":"The room would be packed and,"},{"startTime":1940.563,"endTime":1944.067,"body":"you know, people would sit on the stairs"},{"startTime":1944.15,"endTime":1948.655,"body":"you would descend into this, privacy. Mm."},{"startTime":1948.738,"endTime":1951.991,"body":"This very safe, like basement room."},{"startTime":1951.991,"endTime":1955.828,"body":"Mom and dad were somewhere else,"},{"startTime":1951.991,"endTime":1955.828,"body":"you know, It was very, very like that."},{"startTime":1955.828,"endTime":1958.623,"body":"I think cabaret shows are always packed"},{"startTime":1955.828,"endTime":1958.623,"body":"though."},{"startTime":1958.623,"endTime":1960.124,"body":"I mean I feel like."},{"startTime":1960.124,"endTime":1961.918,"body":"This is not always really. Well."},{"startTime":1961.918,"endTime":1964.921,"body":"El CID. Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":1964.921,"endTime":1966.965,"body":"You know, when I see"},{"startTime":1964.921,"endTime":1966.965,"body":"that rooms are going to be filled,"},{"startTime":1966.965,"endTime":1969.175,"body":"I start inviting people"},{"startTime":1966.965,"endTime":1969.175,"body":"because I'd rather have that."},{"startTime":1969.175,"endTime":1970.426,"body":"But it's nice."},{"startTime":1970.426,"endTime":1971.803,"body":"And this is funny."},{"startTime":1971.803,"endTime":1973.68,"body":"Judy told a story which I know you love."},{"startTime":1973.68,"endTime":1974.639,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":1974.639,"endTime":1979.852,"body":"So Judy would come in, and most"},{"startTime":1974.639,"endTime":1979.852,"body":"of the time we were really Luna Park was"},{"startTime":1979.936,"endTime":1980.853,"body":"often turned away."},{"startTime":1980.853,"endTime":1982.855,"body":"But We ran for seven years. Yeah."},{"startTime":1982.855,"endTime":1987.026,"body":"And there was a little lull"},{"startTime":1982.855,"endTime":1987.026,"body":"right after Comedy Central did"},{"startTime":1987.151,"endTime":1989.821,"body":"their alternative comedy show,"},{"startTime":1987.151,"endTime":1989.821,"body":"which wasn't on Cabaret,"},{"startTime":1989.821,"endTime":1992.657,"body":"like they wanted to do on Cabaret,"},{"startTime":1989.821,"endTime":1992.657,"body":"but they didn't want me to host."},{"startTime":1992.657,"endTime":1994.2,"body":"Which was terrible."},{"startTime":1994.2,"endTime":1995.034,"body":"So I said no."},{"startTime":1995.034,"endTime":1999.163,"body":"And also maybe instead"},{"startTime":1995.034,"endTime":1999.163,"body":"we're talking about all my decisions"},{"startTime":1999.247,"endTime":2002.667,"body":"and wasn't ever see wasn't"},{"startTime":1999.247,"endTime":2002.667,"body":"right back and forth anyway."},{"startTime":2002.667,"endTime":2003.584,"body":"But it's okay."},{"startTime":2003.584,"endTime":2005.878,"body":"I can we talk about that"},{"startTime":2003.584,"endTime":2005.878,"body":"just for one second and."},{"startTime":2005.878,"endTime":2007.422,"body":"And then."},{"startTime":2005.878,"endTime":2007.422,"body":"I want to go back to the details."},{"startTime":2007.422,"endTime":2007.63,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2007.63,"endTime":2011.509,"body":"Yeah, or I don't know if people understand"},{"startTime":2007.63,"endTime":2011.509,"body":"that there are all these crazy decisions"},{"startTime":2011.509,"endTime":2014.178,"body":"that you have to make"},{"startTime":2011.509,"endTime":2014.178,"body":"and some of Your life is a hang on it,"},{"startTime":2014.178,"endTime":2017.89,"body":"but you go back to it all the time."},{"startTime":2017.974,"endTime":2019.559,"body":"30 points there are turning points."},{"startTime":2019.559,"endTime":2021.31,"body":"Yeah, right, Right."},{"startTime":2021.31,"endTime":2024.897,"body":"It's like 13 years ago"},{"startTime":2021.31,"endTime":2024.897,"body":"when I revisited that decision"},{"startTime":2024.897,"endTime":2028.317,"body":"and I thought, why didn't anyone tell me"},{"startTime":2024.897,"endTime":2028.317,"body":"that I could have solved it?"},{"startTime":2028.317,"endTime":2032.155,"body":"I could have made so much money,"},{"startTime":2028.317,"endTime":2032.155,"body":"I could've just got it done"},{"startTime":2032.155,"endTime":2034.198,"body":"a different show. Mm. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2034.198,"endTime":2035.533,"body":"Executive producer."},{"startTime":2035.533,"endTime":2036.617,"body":"I really was agents."},{"startTime":2036.617,"endTime":2038.953,"body":"They never. Said that. Uh."},{"startTime":2038.953,"endTime":2039.871,"body":"That's your ticket."},{"startTime":2039.871,"endTime":2042.206,"body":"That concept of, like,"},{"startTime":2039.871,"endTime":2042.206,"body":"this is the thing, right?"},{"startTime":2042.206,"endTime":2044.5,"body":"As opposed to it"},{"startTime":2042.206,"endTime":2044.5,"body":"being like a tapestry or something."},{"startTime":2044.5,"endTime":2047.086,"body":"And you don't think that someone else"},{"startTime":2044.5,"endTime":2047.086,"body":"is just going to go do it."},{"startTime":2047.086,"endTime":2049.756,"body":"It's your thing. You did it."},{"startTime":2049.756,"endTime":2050.882,"body":"Yeah, right."},{"startTime":2050.882,"endTime":2053.718,"body":"But that's comedy"},{"startTime":2050.882,"endTime":2053.718,"body":"Central, too. They're pretty."},{"startTime":2053.801,"endTime":2054.719,"body":"Bad. And"},{"startTime":2054.719,"endTime":2058.014,"body":"so people were like, Oh,"},{"startTime":2054.719,"endTime":2058.014,"body":"I don't even like alternative comedy."},{"startTime":2058.181,"endTime":2061.35,"body":"Yeah. We suffered from that right shows."},{"startTime":2061.434,"endTime":2065.021,"body":"But also then 13 years later,"},{"startTime":2061.434,"endTime":2065.021,"body":"from thinking that I think, Oh,"},{"startTime":2065.063,"endTime":2066.773,"body":"what if I had flaws that it wouldn't"},{"startTime":2065.063,"endTime":2066.773,"body":"still be on"},{"startTime":2066.773,"endTime":2070.443,"body":"CAB and I wouldn't be all the good"},{"startTime":2066.773,"endTime":2070.443,"body":"that it's done since then and all the"},{"startTime":2070.526,"endTime":2073.112,"body":"it wouldn't have the life"},{"startTime":2070.526,"endTime":2073.112,"body":"it had now because it would have become"},{"startTime":2073.112,"endTime":2076.24,"body":"this other thing on TV"},{"startTime":2073.112,"endTime":2076.24,"body":"and I would have gone to something else."},{"startTime":2076.24,"endTime":2077.784,"body":"And maybe it wasn't a mistake."},{"startTime":2077.784,"endTime":2081.079,"body":"So, you know, and also,"},{"startTime":2077.784,"endTime":2081.079,"body":"mistakes aren't the worst thing in life."},{"startTime":2081.162,"endTime":2082.038,"body":"Right?"},{"startTime":2082.038,"endTime":2084.29,"body":"Because a. Mistake,"},{"startTime":2082.038,"endTime":2084.29,"body":"the choice you have to. Make."},{"startTime":2084.29,"endTime":2085.124,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":2085.124,"endTime":2088.002,"body":"I don't know if other industries"},{"startTime":2085.124,"endTime":2088.002,"body":"have so many tangents."},{"startTime":2088.002,"endTime":2089.796,"body":"With so many choices."},{"startTime":2089.796,"endTime":2090.922,"body":"Oh, right."},{"startTime":2090.922,"endTime":2094.175,"body":"If you don't do one thing"},{"startTime":2090.922,"endTime":2094.175,"body":"and maybe you know what I mean."},{"startTime":2094.258,"endTime":2096.594,"body":"I feel like we make so many decisions."},{"startTime":2096.594,"endTime":2100.431,"body":"I wanted to make it exactly"},{"startTime":2096.594,"endTime":2100.431,"body":"Just because this whole story is so small,"},{"startTime":2100.64,"endTime":2103.476,"body":"you would walk into the room."},{"startTime":2103.559,"endTime":2104.769,"body":"I want to leave listeners hanging."},{"startTime":2104.769,"endTime":2106.813,"body":"What was the whole story? They knew."},{"startTime":2106.813,"endTime":2108.064,"body":"Ha ha. Ha."},{"startTime":2108.064,"endTime":2111.067,"body":"Walk into the room"},{"startTime":2108.064,"endTime":2111.067,"body":"as you go house to house tonight."},{"startTime":2111.067,"endTime":2114.028,"body":"Oh, I don't know what you did"},{"startTime":2111.067,"endTime":2114.028,"body":"was a little light."},{"startTime":2114.028,"endTime":2117.615,"body":"And she goes, Oh, good"},{"startTime":2117.698,"endTime":2119.867,"body":"TV and great show."},{"startTime":2119.867,"endTime":2123.538,"body":"I always"},{"startTime":2119.867,"endTime":2123.538,"body":"I mean, I always think of that, how"},{"startTime":2123.538,"endTime":2126.541,"body":"we we automatically think, oh, it's better"},{"startTime":2123.538,"endTime":2126.541,"body":"if it's full."},{"startTime":2126.541,"endTime":2128.876,"body":"But you know,"},{"startTime":2126.541,"endTime":2128.876,"body":"she was right in a lot of. Mm."},{"startTime":2128.876,"endTime":2132.713,"body":"Smallness can really bring"},{"startTime":2128.876,"endTime":2132.713,"body":"that kind of intimacy"},{"startTime":2132.713,"endTime":2134.465,"body":"as long as you don't put something"},{"startTime":2132.713,"endTime":2134.465,"body":"on the audience,"},{"startTime":2134.465,"endTime":2137.468,"body":"like you've got to carry the weight"},{"startTime":2134.465,"endTime":2137.468,"body":"of the big audience with your smallness."},{"startTime":2137.593,"endTime":2140.429,"body":"You don't need to pretend to be big."},{"startTime":2137.593,"endTime":2140.429,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2140.429,"endTime":2142.223,"body":"You know, you are who you are. You."},{"startTime":2142.223,"endTime":2142.723,"body":"This is who."},{"startTime":2142.723,"endTime":2145.059,"body":"Shut up. Tonight, just in acceptance and."},{"startTime":2145.059,"endTime":2148.312,"body":"In more things might come out"},{"startTime":2145.059,"endTime":2148.312,"body":"if you feel like it's very intimate"},{"startTime":2148.312,"endTime":2150.148,"body":"and just a few people,"},{"startTime":2148.312,"endTime":2150.148,"body":"I'm going to go ahead and say,"},{"startTime":2150.148,"endTime":2152.9,"body":"you know, wherever I went, there were."},{"startTime":2150.148,"endTime":2152.9,"body":"I mean, she was right about that."},{"startTime":2152.9,"endTime":2154.193,"body":"Yeah, go back to."},{"startTime":2154.193,"endTime":2156.279,"body":"I just love that"},{"startTime":2154.193,"endTime":2156.279,"body":"you needed some more men that,"},{"startTime":2156.279,"endTime":2158.156,"body":"like small things don't need to be big."},{"startTime":2158.156,"endTime":2160.533,"body":"Ha ha. Ha."},{"startTime":2160.533,"endTime":2162.118,"body":"Just come as you are."},{"startTime":2162.118,"endTime":2165.454,"body":"You need a voice anyway, for."},{"startTime":2165.538,"endTime":2167.456,"body":"Yeah, but you."},{"startTime":2167.456,"endTime":2168.416,"body":"So go."},{"startTime":2168.416,"endTime":2169.458,"body":"Oh, I."},{"startTime":2169.458,"endTime":2171.419,"body":"Can I have to add on one thing about Judy."},{"startTime":2171.419,"endTime":2171.878,"body":"This is a"},{"startTime":2171.878,"endTime":2176.34,"body":"something I think of all the time she said"},{"startTime":2171.878,"endTime":2176.34,"body":"that we're always looking for work."},{"startTime":2176.424,"endTime":2180.052,"body":"And in her case, she said, when"},{"startTime":2176.424,"endTime":2180.052,"body":"I actually get an audition or get a job,"},{"startTime":2180.052,"endTime":2183.472,"body":"you know, doing stand up, I think, okay,"},{"startTime":2180.052,"endTime":2183.472,"body":"I can't wait till this is over."},{"startTime":2183.556,"endTime":2185.474,"body":"What will I do when this is over?"},{"startTime":2185.474,"endTime":2187.81,"body":"How will I reward myself"},{"startTime":2185.474,"endTime":2187.81,"body":"when this is over?"},{"startTime":2187.81,"endTime":2188.936,"body":"Yeah, you know what?"},{"startTime":2188.936,"endTime":2192.565,"body":"On our we did do Comedy Central special"},{"startTime":2192.648,"endTime":2195.61,"body":"and Andy Dick in one of his great moments"},{"startTime":2192.648,"endTime":2195.61,"body":"in performance."},{"startTime":2195.61,"endTime":2197.195,"body":"I mean, he did do it."},{"startTime":2197.195,"endTime":2198.863,"body":"He's an incredible performer."},{"startTime":2198.863,"endTime":2199.447,"body":"Andy Dick."},{"startTime":2199.447,"endTime":2203.075,"body":"Yeah, I. Saw him live in or something."},{"startTime":2203.075,"endTime":2205.703,"body":"He was on a two hour saw Mitzi,"},{"startTime":2203.075,"endTime":2205.703,"body":"which is hysterical."},{"startTime":2205.703,"endTime":2207.705,"body":"I'm a Texas Christian. Wow."},{"startTime":2207.705,"endTime":2210.541,"body":"What, 100%. And it was his life, too."},{"startTime":2210.541,"endTime":2212.501,"body":"Or it was. Wild and wild."},{"startTime":2212.501,"endTime":2215.796,"body":"he did this one thing on that special"},{"startTime":2212.501,"endTime":2215.796,"body":"that I do think of all the time,"},{"startTime":2215.922,"endTime":2218.09,"body":"which was the idea"},{"startTime":2215.922,"endTime":2218.09,"body":"of getting things behind you."},{"startTime":2218.09,"endTime":2219.8,"body":"You know, I want to, you know,"},{"startTime":2219.8,"endTime":2223.512,"body":"I have to do my taxes so I get behind me"},{"startTime":2219.8,"endTime":2223.512,"body":"so I can dugong and dyer."},{"startTime":2223.596,"endTime":2224.931,"body":"Ha ha ha."},{"startTime":2224.931,"endTime":2227.433,"body":"First grade"},{"startTime":2224.931,"endTime":2227.433,"body":"so I can get it behind me so I can go on."},{"startTime":2227.433,"endTime":2228.392,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":2228.392,"endTime":2232.146,"body":"We did the same idea,"},{"startTime":2228.392,"endTime":2232.146,"body":"which is yeah, You know, it's funny,"},{"startTime":2232.146,"endTime":2235.983,"body":"I was thinking about,"},{"startTime":2232.146,"endTime":2235.983,"body":"my father was married to someone else."},{"startTime":2235.983,"endTime":2238.611,"body":"you know, my mom was his mistress"},{"startTime":2235.983,"endTime":2238.611,"body":"and I was their kid."},{"startTime":2238.611,"endTime":2241.614,"body":"And when I did see my dad,"},{"startTime":2238.611,"endTime":2241.614,"body":"which wasn't very often,"},{"startTime":2241.697,"endTime":2243.658,"body":"well, first of all,"},{"startTime":2241.697,"endTime":2243.658,"body":"I always ask about my half sisters"},{"startTime":2243.658,"endTime":2245.785,"body":"and brothers,"},{"startTime":2243.658,"endTime":2245.785,"body":"which he didn't want to anything about."},{"startTime":2245.785,"endTime":2250.039,"body":"And so he'd say, Why can't we just enjoy"},{"startTime":2245.785,"endTime":2250.039,"body":"the time that we have together right now?"},{"startTime":2250.039,"endTime":2254.794,"body":"And I said, okay, when should we start?"},{"startTime":2254.877,"endTime":2255.628,"body":"Well, you know, that's."},{"startTime":2255.628,"endTime":2257.38,"body":"Interesting, Laura,"},{"startTime":2255.628,"endTime":2257.38,"body":"because in a way, that's"},{"startTime":2257.38,"endTime":2261.3,"body":"almost like gaslighting you"},{"startTime":2257.38,"endTime":2261.3,"body":"with the present, right?"},{"startTime":2261.384,"endTime":2265.471,"body":"It's like, you have every right"},{"startTime":2261.384,"endTime":2265.471,"body":"to want to know your context, right?"},{"startTime":2265.554,"endTime":2266.681,"body":"For context."},{"startTime":2266.681,"endTime":2267.306,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":2267.306,"endTime":2270.101,"body":"And he's saying, Why do you need context?"},{"startTime":2270.101,"endTime":2271.018,"body":"I just need to be here now."},{"startTime":2271.018,"endTime":2274.355,"body":"And I think there's so many means"},{"startTime":2271.018,"endTime":2274.355,"body":"or tropes of like"},{"startTime":2274.397,"endTime":2278.067,"body":"new ageism that can be used"},{"startTime":2274.397,"endTime":2278.067,"body":"against our mental health."},{"startTime":2278.109,"endTime":2279.026,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2279.026,"endTime":2280.152,"body":"That's one of them. right."},{"startTime":2280.152,"endTime":2283.281,"body":"And I think too, it was like, be here"},{"startTime":2280.152,"endTime":2283.281,"body":"now is somebody I don't really know"},{"startTime":2283.281,"endTime":2286.575,"body":"and haven't gotten to know"},{"startTime":2283.281,"endTime":2286.575,"body":"after my whole life, like 17 years."},{"startTime":2286.617,"endTime":2287.66,"body":"Well, I don't know anything about you."},{"startTime":2287.66,"endTime":2289.537,"body":"I don't know anything about your,"},{"startTime":2287.66,"endTime":2289.537,"body":"you know, your kids."},{"startTime":2289.537,"endTime":2290.371,"body":"I don't know anything."},{"startTime":2290.371,"endTime":2291.205,"body":"I'm just like,"},{"startTime":2291.205,"endTime":2296.919,"body":"okay, I'm just going to try and enjoy"},{"startTime":2291.205,"endTime":2296.919,"body":"whoever you are right now with me."},{"startTime":2297.003,"endTime":2299.797,"body":"You have time."},{"startTime":2299.797,"endTime":2301.173,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2301.173,"endTime":2301.966,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2301.966,"endTime":2305.761,"body":"will be a thing like I recently saw like,"},{"startTime":2301.966,"endTime":2305.761,"body":"oh, walking on your tiptoes"},{"startTime":2305.761,"endTime":2306.971,"body":"is like an ADHD."},{"startTime":2306.971,"endTime":2308.18,"body":"Thing is."},{"startTime":2308.18,"endTime":2313.269,"body":"Oh. And I was like,"},{"startTime":2308.18,"endTime":2313.269,"body":"my nickname as a child."},{"startTime":2313.269,"endTime":2314.52,"body":"Used to be tippy toes."},{"startTime":2314.52,"endTime":2317.857,"body":"One. Day because I was constantly"},{"startTime":2314.52,"endTime":2317.857,"body":"walking around on my tiptoes,"},{"startTime":2318.065,"endTime":2320.109,"body":"which is actually,"},{"startTime":2318.065,"endTime":2320.109,"body":"you know, people always make fun of you're"},{"startTime":2320.109,"endTime":2322.028,"body":"always in high heels"},{"startTime":2320.109,"endTime":2322.028,"body":"when he was wearing heavy."},{"startTime":2322.028,"endTime":2327.033,"body":"But I got used to that feeling,"},{"startTime":2322.028,"endTime":2327.033,"body":"Oh, which is like an ADHD I having."},{"startTime":2327.199,"endTime":2328.367,"body":"Oh, I had no idea."},{"startTime":2328.367,"endTime":2329.41,"body":"I have a great memory, number one."},{"startTime":2329.41,"endTime":2333.289,"body":"But like, I'm very at the old house,"},{"startTime":2329.41,"endTime":2333.289,"body":"which we moved out of in like 80"},{"startTime":2333.289,"endTime":2333.831,"body":"whatever five."},{"startTime":2333.831,"endTime":2337.043,"body":"I go with my great grandmother"},{"startTime":2333.831,"endTime":2337.043,"body":"who was born 1895, that old bitch."},{"startTime":2337.126,"endTime":2340.129,"body":"But she was so concerned"},{"startTime":2337.126,"endTime":2340.129,"body":"with how much I was going on my time."},{"startTime":2340.129,"endTime":2341.672,"body":"Oh, yes."},{"startTime":2341.672,"endTime":2344.258,"body":"And I remember"},{"startTime":2341.672,"endTime":2344.258,"body":"there's an orange chairs in the corner."},{"startTime":2344.258,"endTime":2347.762,"body":"I remember I'm just fucking like two years"},{"startTime":2344.258,"endTime":2347.762,"body":"old, right in the shade."},{"startTime":2347.762,"endTime":2349.18,"body":"I remember playing with the curtain"},{"startTime":2349.18,"endTime":2352.35,"body":"and tiptoeing around"},{"startTime":2349.18,"endTime":2352.35,"body":"and that was a back of what I wore."},{"startTime":2352.35,"endTime":2354.143,"body":"And that was the things you were. Going"},{"startTime":2352.35,"endTime":2354.143,"body":"to be told."},{"startTime":2354.143,"endTime":2356.479,"body":"Oh, is. That the name of this episode?"},{"startTime":2354.143,"endTime":2356.479,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2356.479,"endTime":2358.189,"body":"That should be back though."},{"startTime":2358.189,"endTime":2360.983,"body":"Is Producer Thinking Ahead? It absolutely."},{"startTime":2360.983,"endTime":2365.112,"body":"Did and self-medicate"},{"startTime":2360.983,"endTime":2365.112,"body":"but she. Said that in"},{"startTime":2365.196,"endTime":2366.155,"body":"actually that's probably"},{"startTime":2366.155,"endTime":2370.701,"body":"what became the term light in the loafers."},{"startTime":2370.785,"endTime":2372.87,"body":"I want his hills on the ground."},{"startTime":2372.87,"endTime":2374.622,"body":"If not, he's probably going to be gay."},{"startTime":2374.622,"endTime":2378.751,"body":"I jumped out of a tree"},{"startTime":2378.834,"endTime":2379.293,"body":"with a laugh."},{"startTime":2379.293,"endTime":2382.63,"body":"It was backwards on my wrist"},{"startTime":2379.293,"endTime":2382.63,"body":"and that did leave me limp."},{"startTime":2382.713,"endTime":2385.716,"body":"I Oh."},{"startTime":2385.758,"endTime":2386.675,"body":"My God."},{"startTime":2386.675,"endTime":2393.766,"body":"Was that meant to be a"},{"startTime":2393.849,"endTime":2396.644,"body":"read me?"},{"startTime":2396.644,"endTime":2405.236,"body":"Oh, I'm super obsessed with Marilyn"},{"startTime":2396.644,"endTime":2405.236,"body":"Monroe's"},{"startTime":2405.236,"endTime":2406.946,"body":"relationship with her acting coach."},{"startTime":2406.946,"endTime":2411.2,"body":"Oh, it's historically,"},{"startTime":2406.946,"endTime":2411.2,"body":"her legend tells me that she would do take"},{"startTime":2411.2,"endTime":2413.077,"body":"and just turn to a coach"},{"startTime":2411.2,"endTime":2413.077,"body":"instead of the director."},{"startTime":2413.077,"endTime":2414.62,"body":"Right. Oh."},{"startTime":2414.62,"endTime":2415.287,"body":"Sort of a thing."},{"startTime":2415.287,"endTime":2418.874,"body":"But it's like There's"},{"startTime":2415.287,"endTime":2418.874,"body":"a lot of mental situations."},{"startTime":2418.874,"endTime":2422.086,"body":"I don't know how to attack it,"},{"startTime":2418.874,"endTime":2422.086,"body":"but yeah, that you have to work through"},{"startTime":2422.086,"endTime":2423.671,"body":"when you're working with someone"},{"startTime":2422.086,"endTime":2423.671,"body":"as a coach"},{"startTime":2423.671,"endTime":2428.342,"body":"to see what's interference, what's yeah,"},{"startTime":2423.671,"endTime":2428.342,"body":"part of the mental collaboration of yeah."},{"startTime":2428.426,"endTime":2430.761,"body":"am not an actor's coach. Just. Right."},{"startTime":2430.761,"endTime":2431.178,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2431.178,"endTime":2434.181,"body":"I mean, I have had people who act as,"},{"startTime":2431.178,"endTime":2434.181,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":2434.181,"endTime":2437.893,"body":"part of their, you know, big palate,"},{"startTime":2434.181,"endTime":2437.893,"body":"but nobody is."},{"startTime":2438.06,"endTime":2441.355,"body":"Once or twice, people have mistakenly"},{"startTime":2438.06,"endTime":2441.355,"body":"called me in as an acting coach."},{"startTime":2441.355,"endTime":2442.898,"body":"And, I mean, it's not my forte, really."},{"startTime":2442.898,"endTime":2446.527,"body":"Writing, you know, I have"},{"startTime":2442.898,"endTime":2446.527,"body":"I think that I used to do called"},{"startTime":2446.527,"endTime":2450.406,"body":"Uber Funny or which was kind of very"},{"startTime":2446.527,"endTime":2450.406,"body":"on Cabaret, how to do that kind of comedy."},{"startTime":2450.406,"endTime":2453.159,"body":"but a lot of it was going to say,"},{"startTime":2450.406,"endTime":2453.159,"body":"is decision making,"},{"startTime":2453.159,"endTime":2456.745,"body":"I did an audio book last year"},{"startTime":2453.159,"endTime":2456.745,"body":"that's called so you need to decide."},{"startTime":2456.745,"endTime":2459.999,"body":"you like listening to podcasts"},{"startTime":2456.745,"endTime":2459.999,"body":"that you might enjoy."},{"startTime":2459.999,"endTime":2461.333,"body":"So you need to decide."},{"startTime":2461.333,"endTime":2463.961,"body":"It was not one of Vulture's best comedy."},{"startTime":2463.961,"endTime":2466.297,"body":"Amazing. That's great."},{"startTime":2466.297,"endTime":2471.051,"body":"Said and great storytelling"},{"startTime":2466.297,"endTime":2471.051,"body":"a potentially life changing treasure."},{"startTime":2471.135,"endTime":2472.511,"body":"Wow, that's amazing."},{"startTime":2472.511,"endTime":2475.264,"body":"And Beth,"},{"startTime":2472.511,"endTime":2475.264,"body":"These were your tips to other people."},{"startTime":2475.264,"endTime":2479.143,"body":"No, I had the opportunity to do an"},{"startTime":2475.264,"endTime":2479.143,"body":"original audiobook and what would it be?"},{"startTime":2479.143,"endTime":2481.562,"body":"And then I thought, Well,"},{"startTime":2479.143,"endTime":2481.562,"body":"we're heading into an election season"},{"startTime":2481.562,"endTime":2482.48,"body":"that was like two years ago."},{"startTime":2482.48,"endTime":2485.9,"body":"And the word decision was. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2485.983,"endTime":2489.32,"body":"On the eyes of decision making,"},{"startTime":2485.983,"endTime":2489.32,"body":"that's like, all of life."},{"startTime":2489.57,"endTime":2490.196,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2490.196,"endTime":2492.49,"body":"These eight habits of highly creative"},{"startTime":2490.196,"endTime":2492.49,"body":"people."},{"startTime":2492.49,"endTime":2495.367,"body":"Decisions, number one. Number one. Right."},{"startTime":2495.367,"endTime":2499.246,"body":"so the idea of the book was"},{"startTime":2495.367,"endTime":2499.246,"body":"I would talk about my own decisions,"},{"startTime":2499.246,"endTime":2500.748,"body":"tell the stories of my own decisions."},{"startTime":2500.748,"endTime":2503.125,"body":"But then I interviewed, like 20 people"},{"startTime":2503.125,"endTime":2506.879,"body":"and we talked about their decisions"},{"startTime":2503.125,"endTime":2506.879,"body":"in family."},{"startTime":2506.879,"endTime":2508.547,"body":"They were."},{"startTime":2508.547,"endTime":2511.634,"body":"Is it were they excuse me, comics"},{"startTime":2508.547,"endTime":2511.634,"body":"or just just everyday."},{"startTime":2511.8,"endTime":2512.635,"body":"Comedians?"},{"startTime":2512.635,"endTime":2514.011,"body":"Bob ODENKIRK is in it."},{"startTime":2514.011,"endTime":2516.805,"body":"Yulia,"},{"startTime":2514.011,"endTime":2516.805,"body":"I don't know why we never connected on it."},{"startTime":2516.805,"endTime":2519.808,"body":"Um, I'm sorry. I couldn't decide."},{"startTime":2519.808,"endTime":2521.894,"body":"I know."},{"startTime":2521.894,"endTime":2523.312,"body":"Margaret is in it. You."},{"startTime":2523.312,"endTime":2527.9,"body":"Know, but also, like Phoebe Bridgers"},{"startTime":2523.312,"endTime":2527.9,"body":"is in it, and Scott Frank, who wrote"},{"startTime":2527.9,"endTime":2532.655,"body":"Queen's Gambit is in it, and Isaac"},{"startTime":2527.9,"endTime":2532.655,"body":"Mizrahi and Sandra Bernhard and, you know."},{"startTime":2532.655,"endTime":2535.95,"body":"Yeah, like so like,"},{"startTime":2532.655,"endTime":2535.95,"body":"there's chapter on work"},{"startTime":2535.95,"endTime":2539.62,"body":"and a chapter on love and a chapter"},{"startTime":2535.95,"endTime":2539.62,"body":"on spirituality, moving and family."},{"startTime":2539.62,"endTime":2540.287,"body":"Amazing."},{"startTime":2540.287,"endTime":2541.872,"body":"And you know, it's my story."},{"startTime":2541.872,"endTime":2544.416,"body":"Quilted in with their stories."},{"startTime":2544.416,"endTime":2546.001,"body":"So it's like the thing I'm closest to."},{"startTime":2546.001,"endTime":2548.754,"body":"Maybe this American Life kind of,"},{"startTime":2546.001,"endTime":2548.754,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":2548.754,"endTime":2550.339,"body":"the way he quotes those stories together."},{"startTime":2550.339,"endTime":2552.049,"body":"I love that. It's a little bit like."},{"startTime":2552.049,"endTime":2554.593,"body":"Oh, come. And I do talk a lot about the,"},{"startTime":2552.049,"endTime":2554.593,"body":"um, cabaret story."},{"startTime":2554.593,"endTime":2556.845,"body":"I it was the first time like I drove in."},{"startTime":2556.845,"endTime":2558.764,"body":"I was like,"},{"startTime":2556.845,"endTime":2558.764,"body":"how when Cabaret was really my family"},{"startTime":2558.764,"endTime":2562.768,"body":"and the decision not to have children"},{"startTime":2558.764,"endTime":2562.768,"body":"and how that sort of dovetailed"},{"startTime":2562.768,"endTime":2566.105,"body":"into the decision"},{"startTime":2562.768,"endTime":2566.105,"body":"to do on Cabaret like that."},{"startTime":2566.188,"endTime":2571.151,"body":"Anyway, it really got me thinking about"},{"startTime":2566.188,"endTime":2571.151,"body":"decisions as what is decision making?"},{"startTime":2571.193,"endTime":2574.53,"body":"You know, the word decision"},{"startTime":2571.193,"endTime":2574.53,"body":"comes from a word that means to cut off."},{"startTime":2574.53,"endTime":2578.909,"body":"And it's a similar word"},{"startTime":2574.53,"endTime":2578.909,"body":"to, like, suicide and homicide."},{"startTime":2578.909,"endTime":2580.953,"body":"That side part of decide."},{"startTime":2580.953,"endTime":2582.121,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2582.121,"endTime":2584.957,"body":"Like violence to decision making. Yes."},{"startTime":2584.957,"endTime":2586.208,"body":"That finality."},{"startTime":2586.208,"endTime":2589.253,"body":"Yes, and especially in this age"},{"startTime":2586.208,"endTime":2589.253,"body":"where we have to decide"},{"startTime":2589.253,"endTime":2591.839,"body":"so much is part of why"},{"startTime":2589.253,"endTime":2591.839,"body":"we have decision exhaustion,"},{"startTime":2591.839,"endTime":2595.092,"body":"because you're like literally"},{"startTime":2591.839,"endTime":2595.092,"body":"cutting off a possibility."},{"startTime":2595.092,"endTime":2596.51,"body":"is that a Latin thing?"},{"startTime":2596.51,"endTime":2596.885,"body":"That's a lot."},{"startTime":2596.885,"endTime":2600.806,"body":"I you know, I'm such a like, etymology or"},{"startTime":2596.885,"endTime":2600.806,"body":"I mean, if I'm thinking about something,"},{"startTime":2600.806,"endTime":2604.143,"body":"I'm just going to etymology"},{"startTime":2600.806,"endTime":2604.143,"body":"icon like morning, noon and night."},{"startTime":2604.226,"endTime":2605.769,"body":"I love that certain."},{"startTime":2605.769,"endTime":2606.52,"body":"Look in your heart."},{"startTime":2606.52,"endTime":2609.481,"body":"That's why you have to look at etymology."},{"startTime":2609.565,"endTime":2611.567,"body":"The root word goes to the thought."},{"startTime":2611.567,"endTime":2612.776,"body":"You get."},{"startTime":2612.776,"endTime":2615.154,"body":"Yeah, it's in. It's woven."},{"startTime":2615.154,"endTime":2616.614,"body":"In. Yeah."},{"startTime":2616.614,"endTime":2621.076,"body":"I now I think the word should be"},{"startTime":2616.614,"endTime":2621.076,"body":"discovering that right?"},{"startTime":2621.16,"endTime":2624.121,"body":"This ever."},{"startTime":2624.371,"endTime":2625.706,"body":"Love that, to summarize."},{"startTime":2625.706,"endTime":2627.666,"body":"Yeah. Anyway, so that's."},{"startTime":2627.666,"endTime":2628.751,"body":"Fascinating because, like,"},{"startTime":2628.751,"endTime":2632.463,"body":"what choices did you have to make"},{"startTime":2628.751,"endTime":2632.463,"body":"that weren't like the sleep?"},{"startTime":2632.546,"endTime":2634.173,"body":"Right. Right."},{"startTime":2634.173,"endTime":2637.801,"body":"I mean, that's also Yeah, that's something"},{"startTime":2634.173,"endTime":2637.801,"body":"that with what we thought would happen."},{"startTime":2637.801,"endTime":2640.638,"body":"the show's title is isn't"},{"startTime":2637.801,"endTime":2640.638,"body":"necessarily decisions,"},{"startTime":2640.638,"endTime":2643.766,"body":"but it's like, okay, you go into something"},{"startTime":2640.638,"endTime":2643.766,"body":"especially like being a performer"},{"startTime":2643.766,"endTime":2645.684,"body":"and you think Well,"},{"startTime":2643.766,"endTime":2645.684,"body":"this is going to be great."},{"startTime":2645.684,"endTime":2648.187,"body":"I'll be famous, I'll be rich,"},{"startTime":2645.684,"endTime":2648.187,"body":"I'll be this or that."},{"startTime":2648.187,"endTime":2651.19,"body":"You know, that's what you think"},{"startTime":2648.187,"endTime":2651.19,"body":"will happen and that's why you go into it."},{"startTime":2651.231,"endTime":2654.193,"body":"You don't think, Oh,"},{"startTime":2651.231,"endTime":2654.193,"body":"maybe I'll slide along for 40 years"},{"startTime":2654.193,"endTime":2657.404,"body":"and just just be able to pay my rent."},{"startTime":2657.488,"endTime":2658.28,"body":"You know what I mean?"},{"startTime":2658.28,"endTime":2661.116,"body":"It's not that you don't think that or."},{"startTime":2661.116,"endTime":2664.828,"body":"Another way that happen, which I,"},{"startTime":2664.912,"endTime":2666.288,"body":"I think for me I"},{"startTime":2666.288,"endTime":2670.042,"body":"thought, you know, we're so driven"},{"startTime":2666.288,"endTime":2670.042,"body":"by the creativity, you know."},{"startTime":2670.125,"endTime":2671.669,"body":"The need to express myself."},{"startTime":2671.669,"endTime":2674.38,"body":"Sure. Yeah. That. That would carry it."},{"startTime":2674.38,"endTime":2674.963,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2674.963,"endTime":2675.923,"body":"I think saying, like,"},{"startTime":2675.923,"endTime":2680.094,"body":"I mean, necessarily ever think about,"},{"startTime":2675.923,"endTime":2680.094,"body":"like, success in terms of finances?"},{"startTime":2680.094,"endTime":2683.305,"body":"When I was a younger person,"},{"startTime":2680.094,"endTime":2683.305,"body":"I never made money decisions."},{"startTime":2683.305,"endTime":2685.516,"body":"I always was just like, well,"},{"startTime":2683.305,"endTime":2685.516,"body":"you know, just."},{"startTime":2685.516,"endTime":2686.558,"body":"You just follow."},{"startTime":2686.558,"endTime":2687.643,"body":"Follow the art."},{"startTime":2687.643,"endTime":2688.394,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":2688.394,"endTime":2690.896,"body":"And it's not I."},{"startTime":2690.896,"endTime":2692.69,"body":"I've never made money decisions either."},{"startTime":2692.69,"endTime":2696.068,"body":"And and not until I think"},{"startTime":2692.69,"endTime":2696.068,"body":"I was in a studio apartment"},{"startTime":2696.11,"endTime":2699.113,"body":"eating peanut butter on my 26th"},{"startTime":2696.11,"endTime":2699.113,"body":"birthday today."},{"startTime":2699.154,"endTime":2701.24,"body":"I think I really need a job."},{"startTime":2701.24,"endTime":2703.534,"body":"I have. I can't pay."},{"startTime":2703.534,"endTime":2708.038,"body":"You know, my rent was like I had a rent"},{"startTime":2703.534,"endTime":2708.038,"body":"control place that was, like, $800."},{"startTime":2708.038,"endTime":2710.999,"body":"And, I mean, I'm sorry, 400"},{"startTime":2708.038,"endTime":2710.999,"body":"and I couldn't afford that."},{"startTime":2710.999,"endTime":2711.5,"body":"But anyway, but."},{"startTime":2711.5,"endTime":2714.712,"body":"Then it was interesting and uncanny for me"},{"startTime":2711.5,"endTime":2714.712,"body":"watching,"},{"startTime":2714.795,"endTime":2718.215,"body":"you know, there were so many people"},{"startTime":2714.795,"endTime":2718.215,"body":"becoming wildly successful. Hmm."},{"startTime":2718.34,"endTime":2723.053,"body":"I mean, to watch Kathy Griffin launch"},{"startTime":2718.34,"endTime":2723.053,"body":"out of in and Bob and David and this,"},{"startTime":2723.053,"endTime":2724.68,"body":"I mean, yeah, so successful."},{"startTime":2724.68,"endTime":2727.391,"body":"I mean, a lot of people were successful"},{"startTime":2724.68,"endTime":2727.391,"body":"coming in. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2727.391,"endTime":2731.103,"body":"Bob talks in the book about the decision"},{"startTime":2727.391,"endTime":2731.103,"body":"to leave Saturday"},{"startTime":2731.103,"endTime":2733.23,"body":"Night Live and come to L.A. with nothing."},{"startTime":2733.23,"endTime":2736.191,"body":"Oh, it is a great story."},{"startTime":2736.233,"endTime":2739.236,"body":"And how he made that decision"},{"startTime":2736.233,"endTime":2739.236,"body":"super compelling"},{"startTime":2739.278,"endTime":2742.03,"body":"it was really hard for me"},{"startTime":2739.278,"endTime":2742.03,"body":"as host of this thing"},{"startTime":2742.03,"endTime":2746.869,"body":"I never really thought, like,"},{"startTime":2742.03,"endTime":2746.869,"body":"Oh, what is the financial model of that?"},{"startTime":2746.994,"endTime":2750.497,"body":"I mean, even now, like, every is like, I'm"},{"startTime":2746.994,"endTime":2750.497,"body":"very grateful it's in the black."},{"startTime":2750.581,"endTime":2751.749,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2751.749,"endTime":2755.169,"body":"But it's not like a financially"},{"startTime":2751.749,"endTime":2755.169,"body":"great decision for me."},{"startTime":2755.252,"endTime":2756.086,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2756.086,"endTime":2758.422,"body":"And I need everybody"},{"startTime":2756.086,"endTime":2758.422,"body":"I love. You know, it's."},{"startTime":2758.422,"endTime":2760.924,"body":"It's nurturing. And You're great."},{"startTime":2760.924,"endTime":2764.762,"body":"You are a very spiritual person"},{"startTime":2760.924,"endTime":2764.762,"body":"because, like, not a grudge holder,"},{"startTime":2764.762,"endTime":2768.974,"body":"because you could have been angry"},{"startTime":2764.762,"endTime":2768.974,"body":"about Janine doing the unkempt thing."},{"startTime":2769.016,"endTime":2769.767,"body":"The show."},{"startTime":2769.767,"endTime":2771.393,"body":"I wasn't angry, but I was."},{"startTime":2771.393,"endTime":2772.686,"body":"upset. Yeah."},{"startTime":2772.686,"endTime":2775.355,"body":"I wasn't like, oh, yeah, sure. Whatever."},{"startTime":2775.355,"endTime":2775.898,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2775.898,"endTime":2780.486,"body":"I, I, I was so naive though,"},{"startTime":2775.898,"endTime":2780.486,"body":"that I literally picked up"},{"startTime":2780.486,"endTime":2784.156,"body":"the phone and, you know,"},{"startTime":2780.486,"endTime":2784.156,"body":"it was like sobbing and calling her."},{"startTime":2784.156,"endTime":2785.157,"body":"I'm like, How did you."},{"startTime":2785.157,"endTime":2787.868,"body":"She was like, It's not an account."},{"startTime":2785.157,"endTime":2787.868,"body":"It's like the A-list."},{"startTime":2787.868,"endTime":2788.827,"body":"She believed, you know?"},{"startTime":2788.827,"endTime":2789.578,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2789.578,"endTime":2792.831,"body":"at this point, you know, Jenny"},{"startTime":2789.578,"endTime":2792.831,"body":"and I have talked, and it's all fine."},{"startTime":2793.04,"endTime":2796.168,"body":"Mm hmm. Everything"},{"startTime":2793.04,"endTime":2796.168,"body":"unfolds and perfect. And if."},{"startTime":2796.251,"endTime":2797.085,"body":"Her. And"},{"startTime":2797.085,"endTime":2801.34,"body":"I am there now, and I do believe that,"},{"startTime":2797.085,"endTime":2801.34,"body":"but It wasn't that I was mad at her."},{"startTime":2801.423,"endTime":2803.091,"body":"Mm hmm. Even then, I don't."},{"startTime":2803.091,"endTime":2805.219,"body":"I really talk about this,"},{"startTime":2803.091,"endTime":2805.219,"body":"and you guys are getting the."},{"startTime":2805.219,"endTime":2807.137,"body":"You know, I was raw."},{"startTime":2807.137,"endTime":2810.057,"body":"I was, confused. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2810.057,"endTime":2811.725,"body":"I did feel betrayed. Not."},{"startTime":2811.725,"endTime":2813.602,"body":"I just felt betrayed"},{"startTime":2811.725,"endTime":2813.602,"body":"that people were doing."},{"startTime":2813.602,"endTime":2816.563,"body":"Mm hmm. And everybody."},{"startTime":2813.602,"endTime":2816.563,"body":"It was like I didn't."},{"startTime":2816.647,"endTime":2818.565,"body":"I did not do it."},{"startTime":2818.565,"endTime":2819.274,"body":"Laura."},{"startTime":2819.274,"endTime":2822.027,"body":"I'd stick with the originals."},{"startTime":2822.027,"endTime":2823.445,"body":"You know? And it was her."},{"startTime":2823.445,"endTime":2824.571,"body":"It was hurtful."},{"startTime":2824.571,"endTime":2828.45,"body":"But then also, I think more"},{"startTime":2824.571,"endTime":2828.45,"body":"it was to myself."},{"startTime":2828.534,"endTime":2829.034,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2829.034,"endTime":2832.704,"body":"Most of the feeling was like,"},{"startTime":2829.034,"endTime":2832.704,"body":"Why can't I figure out a way to."},{"startTime":2832.871,"endTime":2835.29,"body":"And not just that show,"},{"startTime":2832.871,"endTime":2835.29,"body":"like, the whole thing?"},{"startTime":2835.29,"endTime":2836.041,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2836.041,"endTime":2837.793,"body":"Like, found ways to, like,"},{"startTime":2837.793,"endTime":2841.338,"body":"become a successful comedian"},{"startTime":2837.793,"endTime":2841.338,"body":"or have a TV show or a beer."},{"startTime":2841.588,"endTime":2842.005,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2842.005,"endTime":2844.716,"body":"All the ways"},{"startTime":2842.005,"endTime":2844.716,"body":"the people were watching out of it."},{"startTime":2844.716,"endTime":2846.635,"body":"And I was still just doing it."},{"startTime":2846.635,"endTime":2849.471,"body":"I did finally have that radio show,"},{"startTime":2846.635,"endTime":2849.471,"body":"which was an amazing job."},{"startTime":2849.471,"endTime":2851.849,"body":"Right. And lasted only for a year."},{"startTime":2851.849,"endTime":2856.186,"body":"And then I was talking and then no"},{"startTime":2851.849,"endTime":2856.186,"body":"momentum had so much for one year."},{"startTime":2856.186,"endTime":2857.437,"body":"And then it was like, you know what?"},{"startTime":2857.437,"endTime":2860.774,"body":"But there is a real in moments like that,"},{"startTime":2857.437,"endTime":2860.774,"body":"especially"},{"startTime":2860.774,"endTime":2862.359,"body":"when like project oriented, right?"},{"startTime":2862.359,"endTime":2864.736,"body":"Because you can be super"},{"startTime":2862.359,"endTime":2864.736,"body":"involved in something"},{"startTime":2864.736,"endTime":2867.406,"body":"and then the whole thing can move on"},{"startTime":2864.736,"endTime":2867.406,"body":"without you."},{"startTime":2867.406,"endTime":2871.118,"body":"And you're like there's this weird guilt,"},{"startTime":2867.406,"endTime":2871.118,"body":"there's betrayal,"},{"startTime":2871.368,"endTime":2873.036,"body":"there's what did I do wrong?"},{"startTime":2873.036,"endTime":2876.039,"body":"And they're all these weird things,"},{"startTime":2873.036,"endTime":2876.039,"body":"and none of those are really the answer."},{"startTime":2876.123,"endTime":2876.582,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2876.582,"endTime":2878.667,"body":"So through this fucking head game."},{"startTime":2878.667,"endTime":2882.671,"body":"I mean, you keep given the same problem"},{"startTime":2878.667,"endTime":2882.671,"body":"until you understand"},{"startTime":2882.671,"endTime":2885.007,"body":"what you need to learn. Yeah. Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2885.007,"endTime":2890.345,"body":"You know, if you come to any experience"},{"startTime":2885.007,"endTime":2890.345,"body":"with which I didn't when I was that age."},{"startTime":2890.47,"endTime":2894.474,"body":"Mm hmm. You know, not always. Immediately"},{"startTime":2894.558,"endTime":2896.476,"body":"come to every experience with"},{"startTime":2896.476,"endTime":2900.188,"body":"some being done to me,"},{"startTime":2896.476,"endTime":2900.188,"body":"but being done for me. Oh."},{"startTime":2900.272,"endTime":2902.608,"body":"Then everything's"},{"startTime":2900.272,"endTime":2902.608,"body":"everything is unfolding in divine"},{"startTime":2902.608,"endTime":2904.568,"body":"in perfect order,"},{"startTime":2902.608,"endTime":2904.568,"body":"because everything is there."},{"startTime":2904.568,"endTime":2906.403,"body":"I mean, I am such a, like, good girl."},{"startTime":2906.403,"endTime":2909.531,"body":"Like you are like to be."},{"startTime":2909.531,"endTime":2911.867,"body":"I mean, you know,"},{"startTime":2909.531,"endTime":2911.867,"body":"I went from bad girl years and,"},{"startTime":2911.867,"endTime":2914.87,"body":"you know, all my years,"},{"startTime":2911.867,"endTime":2914.87,"body":"but in the end, I do like an assignment."},{"startTime":2914.87,"endTime":2917.581,"body":"Mm hmm. Were you? You must."},{"startTime":2917.581,"endTime":2919.541,"body":"You're Beth Miller."},{"startTime":2919.541,"endTime":2920.751,"body":"And Cav is very."},{"startTime":2920.751,"endTime":2923.086,"body":"There's no assignment."},{"startTime":2920.751,"endTime":2923.086,"body":"But there is an assignment."},{"startTime":2923.086,"endTime":2924.171,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2924.171,"endTime":2925.213,"body":"There's order to it."},{"startTime":2925.213,"endTime":2928.216,"body":"Yeah. Yeah, but. I've, like, read Yeah."},{"startTime":2928.258,"endTime":2931.178,"body":"And I ask everyone"},{"startTime":2928.258,"endTime":2931.178,"body":"what they were like in high school"},{"startTime":2931.178,"endTime":2935.265,"body":"Were you the president"},{"startTime":2931.178,"endTime":2935.265,"body":"of of of groups and stuff in high school."},{"startTime":2935.265,"endTime":2939.436,"body":"I mean were you kind of like a leader"},{"startTime":2935.265,"endTime":2939.436,"body":"in high school or unpopular or popular?"},{"startTime":2939.519,"endTime":2940.771,"body":"Okay. High school."},{"startTime":2940.771,"endTime":2942.731,"body":"Um, I went to a real small school."},{"startTime":2942.731,"endTime":2945.192,"body":"Mm hmm. Was the."},{"startTime":2945.192,"endTime":2946.193,"body":"I don't know what we called it."},{"startTime":2946.193,"endTime":2949.905,"body":"President had in charge"},{"startTime":2946.193,"endTime":2949.905,"body":"of the only person who cared."},{"startTime":2950.155,"endTime":2952.032,"body":"Mm hmm. Of the film club."},{"startTime":2952.032,"endTime":2957.329,"body":"Oh, I made, like, silkscreened"},{"startTime":2952.032,"endTime":2957.329,"body":"little film club, membership card."},{"startTime":2957.371,"endTime":2960.624,"body":"And I was, like, in New Haven,"},{"startTime":2957.371,"endTime":2960.624,"body":"Connecticut."},{"startTime":2960.624,"endTime":2964.086,"body":"Well, the school was having,"},{"startTime":2960.624,"endTime":2964.086,"body":"but New Haven. Wow."},{"startTime":2964.169,"endTime":2968.09,"body":"And I got really close to my film teacher"},{"startTime":2964.169,"endTime":2968.09,"body":"who also turned out"},{"startTime":2968.09,"endTime":2969.8,"body":"to be the first person I knew"},{"startTime":2968.09,"endTime":2969.8,"body":"who died of AIDS."},{"startTime":2969.8,"endTime":2973.261,"body":"So sad. Richard Newman's, uh, gift."},{"startTime":2973.345,"endTime":2975.347,"body":"And I won the writing prize."},{"startTime":2975.347,"endTime":2978.767,"body":"Oh, or it was a small school."},{"startTime":2978.976,"endTime":2981.603,"body":"Mm hmm. Was. Look,"},{"startTime":2978.976,"endTime":2981.603,"body":"you were at home just sat."},{"startTime":2981.603,"endTime":2984.272,"body":"You were at home."},{"startTime":2981.603,"endTime":2984.272,"body":"You were homeschooled. And."},{"startTime":2984.272,"endTime":2987.901,"body":"And I read this thing where this kid"},{"startTime":2984.272,"endTime":2987.901,"body":"didn't graduate from home school,"},{"startTime":2987.901,"endTime":2990.07,"body":"and it's like, why did you not make it"},{"startTime":2987.901,"endTime":2990.07,"body":"to the living room? Yeah."},{"startTime":2990.07,"endTime":2991.53,"body":"Julia, how did you get."},{"startTime":2991.53,"endTime":2993.991,"body":"Did you sleep through graduation?"},{"startTime":2991.53,"endTime":2993.991,"body":"Yeah. No, I'm sorry."},{"startTime":2993.991,"endTime":2997.285,"body":"No, it. Was. I think I was a rebel."},{"startTime":2997.369,"endTime":2998.078,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":2998.078,"endTime":2998.662,"body":"There was a prom."},{"startTime":2998.662,"endTime":3000.58,"body":"I didn't go. There was."},{"startTime":3000.58,"endTime":3002.416,"body":"I don't know already."},{"startTime":3002.416,"endTime":3006.003,"body":"Yeah, was a small enough school"},{"startTime":3002.416,"endTime":3006.003,"body":"that being that person didn't"},{"startTime":3006.003,"endTime":3007.462,"body":"turn you into an outsider."},{"startTime":3007.462,"endTime":3009.381,"body":"So that's what I was."},{"startTime":3009.381,"endTime":3011.8,"body":"What was your film interest"},{"startTime":3009.381,"endTime":3011.8,"body":"at such a young age?"},{"startTime":3011.8,"endTime":3013.176,"body":"We didn't have it."},{"startTime":3013.176,"endTime":3015.887,"body":"Now everything's available, right?"},{"startTime":3013.176,"endTime":3015.887,"body":"Yeah, right, right. Right."},{"startTime":3015.887,"endTime":3018.974,"body":"But in those days,"},{"startTime":3015.887,"endTime":3018.974,"body":"there was like, a film catalog."},{"startTime":3019.141,"endTime":3020.475,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":3020.475,"endTime":3020.809,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3020.809,"endTime":3023.645,"body":"And you look through it"},{"startTime":3020.809,"endTime":3023.645,"body":"and you decide what movie to order."},{"startTime":3023.645,"endTime":3024.73,"body":"Oh, and you?"},{"startTime":3024.73,"endTime":3025.188,"body":"The movie."},{"startTime":3025.188,"endTime":3028.191,"body":"Like, literally,"},{"startTime":3025.188,"endTime":3028.191,"body":"they'd send you the canister."},{"startTime":3028.233,"endTime":3029.901,"body":"Oh, that's awesome."},{"startTime":3029.901,"endTime":3033.655,"body":"The little, you know, in the little room"},{"startTime":3029.901,"endTime":3033.655,"body":"for the 20 people in your school."},{"startTime":3033.655,"endTime":3034.448,"body":"Who cares?"},{"startTime":3034.448,"endTime":3035.115,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3035.115,"endTime":3037.993,"body":"On the projector and you screen the movie."},{"startTime":3037.993,"endTime":3042.372,"body":"And also, my English teacher, Jane Cowan,"},{"startTime":3037.993,"endTime":3042.372,"body":"was teaching us incredible books."},{"startTime":3042.372,"endTime":3044.791,"body":"I mean, we were reading Joan Didion."},{"startTime":3044.791,"endTime":3047.461,"body":"I mean, we were reading all sorts of books"},{"startTime":3044.791,"endTime":3047.461,"body":"that were like,"},{"startTime":3047.461,"endTime":3049.796,"body":"I remember"},{"startTime":3047.461,"endTime":3049.796,"body":"reading Gertrude Stein in high school."},{"startTime":3049.796,"endTime":3050.38,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3050.38,"endTime":3054.384,"body":"And it was three lines,"},{"startTime":3050.38,"endTime":3054.384,"body":"and it was like a weekend assignment."},{"startTime":3054.468,"endTime":3054.801,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3054.801,"endTime":3057.596,"body":"And I remember reading Gertrude"},{"startTime":3054.801,"endTime":3057.596,"body":"Stein and going like, Oh, my God."},{"startTime":3057.596,"endTime":3060.515,"body":"Finally, somebody who writes the way"},{"startTime":3057.596,"endTime":3060.515,"body":"I think. Oh."},{"startTime":3060.515,"endTime":3061.349,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3061.349,"endTime":3062.017,"body":"Oh, this is."},{"startTime":3062.017,"endTime":3064.978,"body":"She's, like,"},{"startTime":3062.017,"endTime":3064.978,"body":"the best writer in the whole world."},{"startTime":3064.978,"endTime":3065.937,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":3065.937,"endTime":3068.482,"body":"The easiest thing for me"},{"startTime":3065.937,"endTime":3068.482,"body":"to read, I'm, like, whipping through it."},{"startTime":3068.482,"endTime":3070.108,"body":"Like it's a bitch."},{"startTime":3070.108,"endTime":3073.82,"body":"Yeah, I go"},{"startTime":3070.108,"endTime":3073.82,"body":"and I didn't talk to anybody that weekend."},{"startTime":3073.82,"endTime":3076.74,"body":"I don't know why, and it just didn't"},{"startTime":3073.82,"endTime":3076.74,"body":"end up talking to anybody about it."},{"startTime":3076.74,"endTime":3081.661,"body":"And I go, and I'm. I get like. So I'm"},{"startTime":3076.74,"endTime":3081.661,"body":"saying, like, can you believe like. Yeah,"},{"startTime":3081.745,"endTime":3083.83,"body":"I. Have"},{"startTime":3083.83,"endTime":3085.04,"body":"like."},{"startTime":3085.04,"endTime":3087.0,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3087.0,"endTime":3089.503,"body":"You know, And I'm like,"},{"startTime":3087.0,"endTime":3089.503,"body":"I been one of my first moments"},{"startTime":3089.503,"endTime":3092.714,"body":"of realizing like,"},{"startTime":3089.503,"endTime":3092.714,"body":"oh, you're different even amongst this."},{"startTime":3092.714,"endTime":3098.929,"body":"Like it's, you know, chosen group via"},{"startTime":3092.714,"endTime":3098.929,"body":"my really, you know Yeah."},{"startTime":3099.012,"endTime":3100.931,"body":"These people of learned ness."},{"startTime":3100.931,"endTime":3103.266,"body":"Uh huh. Or you know."},{"startTime":3103.266,"endTime":3106.061,"body":"I think the road is the only thing"},{"startTime":3103.266,"endTime":3106.061,"body":"I've ever read in a day."},{"startTime":3106.061,"endTime":3110.649,"body":"And because of so depressing,"},{"startTime":3106.061,"endTime":3110.649,"body":"I couldn't put it down."},{"startTime":3110.732,"endTime":3112.567,"body":"Cormac McCarthy was very small."},{"startTime":3112.567,"endTime":3113.193,"body":"Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":3113.193,"endTime":3114.694,"body":"What brought you to L.A."},{"startTime":3114.694,"endTime":3117.572,"body":"Well, Connecticut to Brown."},{"startTime":3117.572,"endTime":3120.575,"body":"Okay. Brown. Back to then. To New York."},{"startTime":3120.575,"endTime":3122.244,"body":"I always knew"},{"startTime":3120.575,"endTime":3122.244,"body":"I was going to go to New York."},{"startTime":3122.244,"endTime":3123.036,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3123.036,"endTime":3126.039,"body":"From the time I was told my dad"},{"startTime":3123.036,"endTime":3126.039,"body":"worked in New York, he commuted some."},{"startTime":3126.039,"endTime":3129.668,"body":"And, you know, I spent time in New York"},{"startTime":3126.039,"endTime":3129.668,"body":"as a child, and I was always, like,"},{"startTime":3129.709,"endTime":3131.461,"body":"obviously swerved along."},{"startTime":3131.461,"endTime":3135.215,"body":"I mean, what I was like in high"},{"startTime":3131.461,"endTime":3135.215,"body":"school was really counting the days."},{"startTime":3135.298,"endTime":3137.509,"body":"Oh, I was just like, like, can I go?"},{"startTime":3137.509,"endTime":3138.718,"body":"Can I go now? Kind of going now."},{"startTime":3138.718,"endTime":3141.263,"body":"You're not going. To get to watch."},{"startTime":3141.263,"endTime":3142.305,"body":"Anything. Just everything."},{"startTime":3142.305,"endTime":3144.474,"body":"I felt that way, too."},{"startTime":3142.305,"endTime":3144.474,"body":"I want to get out of here."},{"startTime":3144.474,"endTime":3146.226,"body":"I want to get out of here."},{"startTime":3146.226,"endTime":3149.271,"body":"I was just Texas. Oh."},{"startTime":3149.354,"endTime":3150.772,"body":"Oh, yeah."},{"startTime":3150.772,"endTime":3154.776,"body":"Well, I knew I wanted to get out to"},{"startTime":3150.772,"endTime":3154.776,"body":"New York, but it wasn't definitely a big."},{"startTime":3154.86,"endTime":3155.569,"body":"Like."},{"startTime":3155.569,"endTime":3157.445,"body":"Where did you live in New York?"},{"startTime":3157.445,"endTime":3159.447,"body":"Well, first I lived in Williamsburg."},{"startTime":3159.447,"endTime":3159.865,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":3159.865,"endTime":3162.868,"body":"I was one of the pioneers"},{"startTime":3159.865,"endTime":3162.868,"body":"of that neighborhood."},{"startTime":3162.868,"endTime":3164.494,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":3164.494,"endTime":3168.331,"body":"I lived across the street from the diner"},{"startTime":3164.494,"endTime":3168.331,"body":"that then was the diner in 94."},{"startTime":3168.331,"endTime":3169.624,"body":"Girls."},{"startTime":3169.624,"endTime":3172.919,"body":"I'm sorry."},{"startTime":3173.003,"endTime":3173.545,"body":"I know."},{"startTime":3173.545,"endTime":3176.923,"body":"So it was like,"},{"startTime":3173.545,"endTime":3176.923,"body":"a very early loft experience, but I was."},{"startTime":3177.007,"endTime":3180.886,"body":"You know, one of the stories in my life"},{"startTime":3177.007,"endTime":3180.886,"body":"is, like you had little to fear."},{"startTime":3180.969,"endTime":3183.305,"body":"Oh, yeah. My time now. Right, Right."},{"startTime":3183.305,"endTime":3185.39,"body":"There was, like,"},{"startTime":3183.305,"endTime":3185.39,"body":"Williamsburg was, like, literally."},{"startTime":3185.39,"endTime":3187.35,"body":"I moved to New York the day of the loft."},{"startTime":3187.35,"endTime":3190.77,"body":"Loft in downtown Manhattan was"},{"startTime":3190.854,"endTime":3192.856,"body":"like, Oh, I'm sorry."},{"startTime":3192.856,"endTime":3195.859,"body":"I rented the last one out."},{"startTime":3196.067,"endTime":3196.818,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3196.818,"endTime":3201.072,"body":"So, you know, you start looking in"},{"startTime":3196.818,"endTime":3201.072,"body":"Williamsburg, just across the bridge."},{"startTime":3201.072,"endTime":3204.784,"body":"It's just oppressive, just with one"},{"startTime":3201.072,"endTime":3204.784,"body":"stop across, and you're like, I guess."},{"startTime":3204.826,"endTime":3205.493,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3205.493,"endTime":3209.247,"body":"And we got this loft"},{"startTime":3205.493,"endTime":3209.247,"body":"as somebody I had gone to school with, and"},{"startTime":3209.331,"endTime":3214.961,"body":"it was in the medical offices of,"},{"startTime":3209.331,"endTime":3214.961,"body":"Oh, I forget the company anyway."},{"startTime":3215.045,"endTime":3216.88,"body":"Anyway, we did the loft."},{"startTime":3216.88,"endTime":3218.048,"body":"I didn't know how to build a thing."},{"startTime":3218.048,"endTime":3219.633,"body":"We learned how to build walls, and."},{"startTime":3219.633,"endTime":3223.511,"body":"Wow. I mean, I know how to go well, but,"},{"startTime":3219.633,"endTime":3223.511,"body":"I mean, I did learn."},{"startTime":3223.511,"endTime":3226.056,"body":"It was a"},{"startTime":3223.511,"endTime":3226.056,"body":"it was a thing. It was kind of amazing."},{"startTime":3226.056,"endTime":3228.183,"body":"And Robert Hall,"},{"startTime":3226.056,"endTime":3228.183,"body":"that was the name of the company."},{"startTime":3228.183,"endTime":3231.269,"body":"And the jingle on the radio"},{"startTime":3228.183,"endTime":3231.269,"body":"was when the prices go up,"},{"startTime":3231.394,"endTime":3234.397,"body":"up, up,"},{"startTime":3231.394,"endTime":3234.397,"body":"and the value goes down, down, down."},{"startTime":3234.522,"endTime":3235.982,"body":"Robert Hall Well, I saw."},{"startTime":3235.982,"endTime":3237.442,"body":"What it was a clothing store."},{"startTime":3237.442,"endTime":3239.653,"body":"Was, it was a factory. It was."},{"startTime":3239.653,"endTime":3244.616,"body":"Because that was the upscale small"},{"startTime":3239.653,"endTime":3244.616,"body":"store in my hometown was called Robert."},{"startTime":3244.616,"endTime":3244.991,"body":"Hall."},{"startTime":3244.991,"endTime":3247.16,"body":"Oh yeah. Well, this was the factory"},{"startTime":3244.991,"endTime":3247.16,"body":"that made those clothes."},{"startTime":3247.16,"endTime":3249.871,"body":"Wow. Wow."},{"startTime":3249.871,"endTime":3251.081,"body":"How close?"},{"startTime":3251.081,"endTime":3254.584,"body":"It was close. And it's amazing."},{"startTime":3254.668,"endTime":3255.502,"body":"It was like,"},{"startTime":3255.502,"endTime":3258.672,"body":"you know, six floors of empty,"},{"startTime":3255.502,"endTime":3258.672,"body":"like, loft space."},{"startTime":3258.713,"endTime":3259.506,"body":"Amazing."},{"startTime":3259.506,"endTime":3263.551,"body":"Next to it, attached to it Oh, geez."},{"startTime":3263.635,"endTime":3266.596,"body":"There was a bank on the front floor,"},{"startTime":3263.635,"endTime":3266.596,"body":"and then there were three floors up"},{"startTime":3266.596,"endTime":3268.056,"body":"and we lived on the floor."},{"startTime":3268.056,"endTime":3271.393,"body":"That was the medical offices"},{"startTime":3268.056,"endTime":3271.393,"body":"to Robert Hall."},{"startTime":3271.434,"endTime":3273.436,"body":"So it was kind of nice already."},{"startTime":3273.436,"endTime":3276.064,"body":"It was a loft,"},{"startTime":3273.436,"endTime":3276.064,"body":"but it wasn't, like, completely raw."},{"startTime":3276.064,"endTime":3276.69,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"startTime":3276.69,"endTime":3277.691,"body":"There was a bathroom ready"},{"startTime":3277.691,"endTime":3282.07,"body":"and then, you know,"},{"startTime":3277.691,"endTime":3282.07,"body":"but we got to go into the empty warehouse."},{"startTime":3282.153,"endTime":3282.696,"body":"Oh, wow."},{"startTime":3282.696,"endTime":3286.616,"body":"To scavenge material. Oh."},{"startTime":3286.7,"endTime":3291.246,"body":"Drunk guys who were the leg"},{"startTime":3286.7,"endTime":3291.246,"body":"maintenance guys for the building?"},{"startTime":3291.329,"endTime":3292.998,"body":"I wish I remember their names, Willy."},{"startTime":3292.998,"endTime":3294.708,"body":"And something. Hmm."},{"startTime":3294.708,"endTime":3298.044,"body":"And they had an office in the basement,"},{"startTime":3294.708,"endTime":3298.044,"body":"and they were always drunk,"},{"startTime":3298.128,"endTime":3301.464,"body":"and they would, you know, get well,"},{"startTime":3298.128,"endTime":3301.464,"body":"We would go down and they loved us."},{"startTime":3301.464,"endTime":3302.299,"body":"And then we know."},{"startTime":3302.299,"endTime":3304.926,"body":"Can we go look at someone like. Oh, sure."},{"startTime":3304.926,"endTime":3306.636,"body":"And they take us up to the third floor."},{"startTime":3306.636,"endTime":3307.762,"body":"We get mirrors."},{"startTime":3307.762,"endTime":3311.891,"body":"And would We take tables"},{"startTime":3307.762,"endTime":3311.891,"body":"that were like their production tables"},{"startTime":3311.891,"endTime":3313.226,"body":"and take hammers and like,"},{"startTime":3313.226,"endTime":3317.022,"body":"take them apart and then go into the loft"},{"startTime":3313.226,"endTime":3317.022,"body":"and use that would wow."},{"startTime":3317.272,"endTime":3318.106,"body":"Loft beds."},{"startTime":3318.106,"endTime":3321.109,"body":"And so how So it was really fun."},{"startTime":3321.276,"endTime":3324.487,"body":"But then all of a sudden I was like,"},{"startTime":3321.276,"endTime":3324.487,"body":"I hate living in Williamsburg."},{"startTime":3324.487,"endTime":3327.115,"body":"I want to live here. Oh,"},{"startTime":3324.487,"endTime":3327.115,"body":"I want to get on the subway."},{"startTime":3327.115,"endTime":3330.702,"body":"I want to get into you know, I just"},{"startTime":3327.115,"endTime":3330.702,"body":"I need to be in Manhattan, right?"},{"startTime":3330.702,"endTime":3332.62,"body":"So I just got this thing."},{"startTime":3330.702,"endTime":3332.62,"body":"I want to get out."},{"startTime":3332.62,"endTime":3333.83,"body":"I want to get out. Yeah."},{"startTime":3333.83,"endTime":3334.164,"body":"You know,"},{"startTime":3334.164,"endTime":3336.207,"body":"I have to say, if you want to talk about,"},{"startTime":3334.164,"endTime":3336.207,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":3336.207,"endTime":3338.293,"body":"one of the things of being an addict,"},{"startTime":3336.207,"endTime":3338.293,"body":"you got to get out."},{"startTime":3338.293,"endTime":3340.503,"body":"I got to get out of my comfortable."},{"startTime":3338.293,"endTime":3340.503,"body":"I got to get out. Yeah."},{"startTime":3340.503,"endTime":3343.798,"body":"So it has its good part"},{"startTime":3340.503,"endTime":3343.798,"body":"and also the part that I've had to look at"},{"startTime":3343.798,"endTime":3346.009,"body":"and get comfortable"},{"startTime":3343.798,"endTime":3346.009,"body":"with being uncomfortable."},{"startTime":3346.009,"endTime":3350.764,"body":"But in this case I had to get out and"},{"startTime":3346.009,"endTime":3350.764,"body":"I just walked to Manhattan and I walked in"},{"startTime":3350.764,"endTime":3356.144,"body":"and finally I found this apartment"},{"startTime":3350.764,"endTime":3356.144,"body":"that was a little bigger than this room."},{"startTime":3356.227,"endTime":3357.937,"body":"but it was in LA, literally."},{"startTime":3357.937,"endTime":3359.272,"body":"It was on Mulberry."},{"startTime":3359.272,"endTime":3361.483,"body":"Oh, incredible."},{"startTime":3361.483,"endTime":3363.818,"body":"And Prince Amazing."},{"startTime":3363.818,"endTime":3364.569,"body":"I know that area."},{"startTime":3364.569,"endTime":3366.279,"body":"Some beautiful. One."},{"startTime":3366.279,"endTime":3368.323,"body":"Right angle in the hold, right? Yeah."},{"startTime":3368.323,"endTime":3368.865,"body":"Uh huh."},{"startTime":3368.865,"endTime":3371.618,"body":"No water came off in the white strategy."},{"startTime":3371.618,"endTime":3373.62,"body":"I mean, it was like, well,"},{"startTime":3371.618,"endTime":3373.62,"body":"my parents came to see it."},{"startTime":3373.62,"endTime":3375.872,"body":"They were like, well,"},{"startTime":3373.62,"endTime":3375.872,"body":"there's only one sink."},{"startTime":3375.872,"endTime":3378.875,"body":"And I was like, well,"},{"startTime":3375.872,"endTime":3378.875,"body":"only one person ha, right there."},{"startTime":3378.875,"endTime":3380.001,"body":"And I'm an 86."},{"startTime":3380.001,"endTime":3383.797,"body":"so it was in a building"},{"startTime":3380.001,"endTime":3383.797,"body":"that had a candy store."},{"startTime":3383.88,"endTime":3386.341,"body":"There was three candy bars in the"},{"startTime":3386.341,"endTime":3391.054,"body":"oh candy store, and it was called Lucy's"},{"startTime":3386.341,"endTime":3391.054,"body":"candy store and there was a Lucy"},{"startTime":3391.054,"endTime":3396.559,"body":"and she was this large classic"},{"startTime":3391.054,"endTime":3396.559,"body":"telling room in my memory she's knitting."},{"startTime":3396.559,"endTime":3398.853,"body":"Maybe she was sewing, maybe shoes."},{"startTime":3398.853,"endTime":3403.066,"body":"Anyway, my parents came to visit"},{"startTime":3398.853,"endTime":3403.066,"body":"and I introduced her."},{"startTime":3403.233,"endTime":3405.235,"body":"It was like that,"},{"startTime":3403.233,"endTime":3405.235,"body":"you know, you had to know everybody."},{"startTime":3405.235,"endTime":3408.279,"body":"And I got in, jumped"},{"startTime":3405.235,"endTime":3408.279,"body":"in, and, Lucy said to my friends,"},{"startTime":3408.279,"endTime":3411.616,"body":"Don't you worry, we're keeping our."},{"startTime":3411.616,"endTime":3415.161,"body":"Eye on her. Oh, ha ha,"},{"startTime":3415.245,"endTime":3417.08,"body":"That's great."},{"startTime":3417.08,"endTime":3417.831,"body":"So many great stories."},{"startTime":3417.831,"endTime":3419.749,"body":"And we really wanted to live in"},{"startTime":3417.831,"endTime":3419.749,"body":"Little Italy."},{"startTime":3419.749,"endTime":3425.255,"body":"I remember walking into the social club"},{"startTime":3419.749,"endTime":3425.255,"body":"and, you know, it's all these old guys"},{"startTime":3425.255,"endTime":3429.175,"body":"and I don't think you're supposed to walk"},{"startTime":3425.255,"endTime":3429.175,"body":"in as a woman at all."},{"startTime":3429.259,"endTime":3432.846,"body":"And I wanted and there's a drinking"},{"startTime":3429.259,"endTime":3432.846,"body":"espresso, the vessels person in the world."},{"startTime":3432.929,"endTime":3435.223,"body":"And I walk in, I'm like, Hey, guys,"},{"startTime":3435.223,"endTime":3436.808,"body":"do you know how any apartments"},{"startTime":3435.223,"endTime":3436.808,"body":"And they all put"},{"startTime":3436.808,"endTime":3439.144,"body":"their hand in their pockets, like,"},{"startTime":3436.808,"endTime":3439.144,"body":"who is this?"},{"startTime":3439.144,"endTime":3441.521,"body":"Oh, wow."},{"startTime":3441.521,"endTime":3442.856,"body":"So a funny."},{"startTime":3442.856,"endTime":3445.358,"body":"Little hazy"},{"startTime":3442.856,"endTime":3445.358,"body":"glow around this time in my life"},{"startTime":3445.358,"endTime":3449.362,"body":"because it was early downtown New York"},{"startTime":3449.362,"endTime":3453.575,"body":"performance"},{"startTime":3449.362,"endTime":3453.575,"body":"art world, the kitchen and, uh,"},{"startTime":3453.658,"endTime":3456.828,"body":"this and Club 57 and,"},{"startTime":3457.036,"endTime":3459.914,"body":"you know, just it was the years."},{"startTime":3459.914,"endTime":3463.751,"body":"Before the gods were really well known."},{"startTime":3463.835,"endTime":3464.419,"body":"You know."},{"startTime":3464.419,"endTime":3465.336,"body":"On the street."},{"startTime":3465.336,"endTime":3469.09,"body":"Was that any time of the night I had,"},{"startTime":3465.336,"endTime":3469.09,"body":"you know,"},{"startTime":3469.174,"endTime":3472.886,"body":"I could go up on my roof"},{"startTime":3469.174,"endTime":3472.886,"body":"and spy on hook up boyfriend men."},{"startTime":3473.011,"endTime":3477.807,"body":"I mean, it was all like it was there was"},{"startTime":3473.011,"endTime":3477.807,"body":"a corner bar for the Spring Street Lounge."},{"startTime":3477.807,"endTime":3480.852,"body":"Oh. Like all our"},{"startTime":3477.807,"endTime":3480.852,"body":"it was mafia during the day."},{"startTime":3480.852,"endTime":3485.565,"body":"And then artists that night"},{"startTime":3480.852,"endTime":3485.565,"body":"it was the coolest bar and."},{"startTime":3485.648,"endTime":3487.066,"body":"I'm very East Coast."},{"startTime":3487.066,"endTime":3488.818,"body":"I know, I know."},{"startTime":3488.818,"endTime":3490.737,"body":"But now I do feel like I'm in New York."},{"startTime":3490.737,"endTime":3492.155,"body":"Very L.A.. Yeah, I."},{"startTime":3492.155,"endTime":3494.073,"body":"Do, too. Well, because East Coast."},{"startTime":3494.073,"endTime":3496.242,"body":"I mean, New York isn't New York anymore."},{"startTime":3496.242,"endTime":3497.785,"body":"Not like it was then."},{"startTime":3497.785,"endTime":3499.621,"body":"LA is always awful,"},{"startTime":3497.785,"endTime":3499.621,"body":"So it's always going to be, you know,"},{"startTime":3499.621,"endTime":3501.372,"body":"I mean, like, it never changes."},{"startTime":3501.372,"endTime":3503.124,"body":"It must feel like water."},{"startTime":3503.124,"endTime":3506.503,"body":"Like I could go anywhere."},{"startTime":3503.124,"endTime":3506.503,"body":"Mm hmm. Glass. Mm."},{"startTime":3506.586,"endTime":3514.552,"body":"Though it's not true. Know,"},{"startTime":3514.636,"endTime":3515.428,"body":"Beth."},{"startTime":3515.428,"endTime":3517.096,"body":"Thank you so much."},{"startTime":3517.096,"endTime":3520.517,"body":"And tell us where to get the book"},{"startTime":3517.096,"endTime":3520.517,"body":"that you just the things."},{"startTime":3520.558,"endTime":3520.934,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3520.934,"endTime":3522.435,"body":"well, first of all,"},{"startTime":3520.934,"endTime":3522.435,"body":"everything can be found"},{"startTime":3522.435,"endTime":3527.315,"body":"I'll get that"},{"startTime":3522.435,"endTime":3527.315,"body":"will be just like on the AP I.D.s."},{"startTime":3527.398,"endTime":3529.359,"body":"Some of the audio book is available"},{"startTime":3527.398,"endTime":3529.359,"body":"everywhere."},{"startTime":3529.359,"endTime":3533.071,"body":"That audio books are Amazon, audible"},{"startTime":3529.359,"endTime":3533.071,"body":"there's places where you independent"},{"startTime":3533.071,"endTime":3537.116,"body":"bookstores you can get audio books do even"},{"startTime":3533.071,"endTime":3537.116,"body":"your library has it."},{"startTime":3537.2,"endTime":3538.576,"body":"So it's everywhere, which is great."},{"startTime":3538.576,"endTime":3541.579,"body":"And the, um, cabaret. Hmm."},{"startTime":3541.788,"endTime":3544.499,"body":"If you're in Los Angeles,"},{"startTime":3541.788,"endTime":3544.499,"body":"we're running currently"},{"startTime":3544.499,"endTime":3548.086,"body":"out of"},{"startTime":3544.499,"endTime":3548.086,"body":"You may be listening to this in 2009."},{"startTime":3548.169,"endTime":3549.754,"body":"One 2023."},{"startTime":3549.754,"endTime":3551.089,"body":"Ha ha ha."},{"startTime":3551.089,"endTime":3555.176,"body":"We're running at El CID in Silver Lake,"},{"startTime":3551.089,"endTime":3555.176,"body":"and in December we're going to start doing"},{"startTime":3555.176,"endTime":3559.639,"body":"shows at the Nimoy,"},{"startTime":3555.176,"endTime":3559.639,"body":"which is Cap UCLA new venue."},{"startTime":3559.639,"endTime":3560.557,"body":"And it's so."},{"startTime":3560.557,"endTime":3564.018,"body":"Wow. the new move or like a one off."},{"startTime":3564.06,"endTime":3567.23,"body":"No, we're going to do a series"},{"startTime":3564.06,"endTime":3567.23,"body":"one in December."},{"startTime":3567.438,"endTime":3570.024,"body":"Maybe it'll do January through January."},{"startTime":3570.024,"endTime":3572.86,"body":"December 16th is an on holiday show."},{"startTime":3572.86,"endTime":3574.654,"body":"In January, we're going to do my birthday."},{"startTime":3574.654,"endTime":3576.489,"body":"Yay, February."},{"startTime":3576.489,"endTime":3578.866,"body":"We're going to be LCD again."},{"startTime":3578.866,"endTime":3579.242,"body":"March."},{"startTime":3579.242,"endTime":3583.162,"body":"We're going to do both El CID"},{"startTime":3579.242,"endTime":3583.162,"body":"and we'll see where people are coming"},{"startTime":3583.162,"endTime":3584.372,"body":"and where the energy is going."},{"startTime":3584.372,"endTime":3586.332,"body":"Now, we put a pause in the Zoom"},{"startTime":3584.372,"endTime":3586.332,"body":"shows, though."},{"startTime":3586.332,"endTime":3590.503,"body":"There are some up on our YouTube channel"},{"startTime":3586.332,"endTime":3590.503,"body":"because it's just a little too much."},{"startTime":3590.712,"endTime":3595.383,"body":"Yeah, but we will probably do seasonal"},{"startTime":3590.712,"endTime":3595.383,"body":"zoom shows again and those are super fun."},{"startTime":3595.466,"endTime":3597.218,"body":"They're just chat, They're more like this."},{"startTime":3597.218,"endTime":3599.846,"body":"I'm on stage, it's back and forth talk."},{"startTime":3599.846,"endTime":3601.973,"body":"You can also find"},{"startTime":3599.846,"endTime":3601.973,"body":"a bunch of recorded stuff."},{"startTime":3601.973,"endTime":3603.099,"body":"I mean, our Comedy Central show,"},{"startTime":3603.099,"endTime":3605.685,"body":"if somebody put a, the Comedy Central"},{"startTime":3603.099,"endTime":3605.685,"body":"show up on YouTube."},{"startTime":3605.685,"endTime":3606.436,"body":"I don't know."},{"startTime":3606.436,"endTime":3611.107,"body":"I think the guy goes, Oh,"},{"startTime":3606.436,"endTime":3611.107,"body":"And then my coaching"},{"startTime":3611.149,"endTime":3615.57,"body":"is a company called The Infinite Creator,"},{"startTime":3611.149,"endTime":3615.57,"body":"it's a place where you basically"},{"startTime":3615.57,"endTime":3618.906,"body":"we take your piles of papers,"},{"startTime":3615.57,"endTime":3618.906,"body":"turn them into projects and get projects"},{"startTime":3618.906,"endTime":3619.657,"body":"out into the world."},{"startTime":3619.657,"endTime":3623.87,"body":"It's very much 100% process, 100% product."},{"startTime":3623.995,"endTime":3625.204,"body":"MM Possible."},{"startTime":3625.204,"endTime":3628.583,"body":"But that is"},{"startTime":3625.204,"endTime":3628.583,"body":"and I just love working with creatives"},{"startTime":3628.583,"endTime":3631.294,"body":"and you can find all that information"},{"startTime":3628.583,"endTime":3631.294,"body":"also on my website."},{"startTime":3631.294,"endTime":3634.005,"body":"It's a very,"},{"startTime":3631.294,"endTime":3634.005,"body":"well if you're looking for somebody,"},{"startTime":3634.005,"endTime":3636.466,"body":"if you don't want to do it alone anymore"},{"startTime":3634.005,"endTime":3636.466,"body":"Fantastic."},{"startTime":3636.466,"endTime":3637.133,"body":"I love that."},{"startTime":3637.133,"endTime":3637.925,"body":"That's so good."},{"startTime":3637.925,"endTime":3640.928,"body":"Thank you, Beth. Thanks for being with us."},{"startTime":3640.97,"endTime":3643.348,"body":"I Yeah."},{"startTime":3643.431,"endTime":3644.182,"body":"Bye bye."}]}