The Cubby_S3-E3_Juneteenth & Kyrie

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An episode for Juneteeth, done on Juneteenth, honering Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth 2020! To those that require a meaning, look to those that require praise. Join The Cubby Cast as we take part in a monumental conversation...as brothers. Where are we today? What does it take to prevail in these trying times and how do we enlighten, stay united and enrich our listeners. 

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@jaydub_deuces

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:06

The cubby podcast. Hi, Ron Lewis,

Speaker 2 0:35

Man. I think, I think it's safe. I think everybody iron man. Why not? I think everybody y'all ain't think about it. Just think about it. There's been hundreds of hundreds of people marching, and they have said that the uptick in COVID reactions have spiked, but I think, I think we good. I think, I think we're not.

Speaker 3 0:55

Wait, why does that make you feel like, I just don't think that s tarted h anging o ut w ell. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 1:01

I don't think it's as, I don't think it says detrimental as they've been saying, if large crowds would assemble, I thought like, as soon as you got in a large crowd, everybody's going to die on site. It ain't that it's just, you know, you may cough a little bit.

Speaker 3 1:17

Oh, so you're just saying the who w eren't dying,

Speaker 2 1:23

I'm thinking COVID is like polio. You know what I'm saying? Like polio a real disease. This is on some, I honestly think this is the new age. I think they just trying to bring arms. Yeah, man. I'll be honest, man. I just want everything to go back

Speaker 3 1:38

To the new age, Brandon,

Speaker 2 1:40

As the new age, think about it. It's only affecting a certain demographic old people, right. It's really targeting them. Just like, Hey, he's talking to the black people and gay. The only i t's t alking t o black people, old people. Y eah.

Speaker 3 1:58

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:59

That's the only new addition. Everything else, every new disease always attacked me

Speaker 3 2:07

Age rebranded. That's what it is.[inaudible] If he come on,

Speaker 2 2:22

I should've been dead. Just I'm itching to get outside. Like most of y'all got interactions. You know what I'm saying? Now that you, by yourself, you see what I'm saying? You gonna really realize this is a little, a little different.

Speaker 3 2:35

She'd been asked to be born.

Speaker 2 2:47

You see that couch that you got in your living room, sitting on that. That's it all day, all day sitting on that do work t here. Get up from there and w ork o ut. I've been going to CrossFit gym. Actually. I've been going every day. A m I going to the do g? You ain't see my, my big, I l ittle smaller. You ain't see that th is w h ole g y m w o rk, man. Ain't no haircut.

Speaker 3 3:08

As

Speaker 2 3:10

You add to that was getting out of control for you.

Speaker 3 3:14

I don't know. Uh, you know, you can't grow a mad man style. I was definitely tied to these one or two. Never third. I say I never lost. He sa id I ain't never lose either.

Speaker 2 3:47

Yeah. I have two that never lose that. That's not how I w ork.

Speaker 3 3:51

It's more than one.

Speaker 2 3:54

You know that phrase that you always use. Two things can be true. I mean, I heard who said it, S hannon s hock kept saying t his. He was just like, yo two things can be true. And I was like, yo, can it be saying, th is c a n b e true. And I'm like,

Speaker 3 4:13

You know what I'm saying? So black and white, sometimes a little gray

Speaker 2 4:21

Machine shop started saying it. I was like, all right. So Shannon shopping cannon in the same pool, same boat. They must be right. If Shannon Sharpe standing, it must be right. I disagree. If you say to must be right.

Speaker 3 4:38

I'm saying no, that's some real time. But yeah man,

Speaker 2 4:52

I believe

Speaker 3 4:53

So.

Speaker 2 4:55

What are you talking about? You can't put that out there. Black women about to cancel you.

Speaker 3 5:02

You can't be saying that. You know me. I mean, I love black women. You don't

Speaker 2 5:08

Think Kyrie love black women.

Speaker 3 5:11

I seen a picture of him on a boat with nothing but white. Come on dog. Don't do that. Don't put that on him. Never see me on a boat.

Speaker 2 5:18

I see you in a club with a whole bunch of white women.

Speaker 3 5:21

No, I see. Now it's changing venues. I haven't seen you in a club. I'm the one that took you.

Speaker 2 5:37

No, no. We was in a club together. Remember I forgot what it was.

Speaker 3 5:41

We were just like, yo, this is whole was a lot of clubs. I feel uncomfortable. I was just like, yeah,

Speaker 2 5:53

Let's just say outside. And you know, just talk.

Speaker 3 5:54

I'm like, Hey, you don't want none of this. Listen, we went to, uh, not even Mason. We went to some other joint. Remember that,

Speaker 2 6:08

You know what I'm talking about? What was the call sandals?

Speaker 3 6:16

And that wasn't a good spot. It was country club.

Speaker 2 6:20

Yeah. That's what it was called. It was called country club. We should have known it from the name.

Speaker 3 6:26

Who's the one that said to go there w ith f lourish.

Speaker 2 6:31

Well, carry a basketball player, carry flourish. Anyway. It don't matter. If you played basketball, you get in women. That's a fact I don't get it right by me. You get Asian, you get black women. You get everything. If you play basketball, you, you probably on the top of the other charts. That's probably it. It's probably basketball players.

Speaker 3 6:56

NBA players. Is that like our politics? I can just say they are leaders. They social change.

Speaker 2 7:13

Isn't that funny? Isn't that ironic? How our basketball players, I became more social conscious and American facts.

Speaker 3 7:20

That's how it is bro. Why? They say he's a rapper go to the league. Cause that's how you make it. That's how you make it community. But we changed in that. But you can't act like that. Ain't a lot of truth. J Cole on a pedestal.

Speaker 2 7:37

J Cole. What, what was that about? I didn't get that. Well, J Cole don't like black women either. Now. Why is it that m ake i t? We always say they don't like black women. What's up with t hat.

Speaker 3 7:49

I said about Jake. Who said that? Jamie said that he might, that was like six years ago. He might've came around.

Speaker 2 8:10

You do. You have to, you cannot, you can't take our black women, bro.

Speaker 3 8:16

I don't know how you would ever. I don't know, man. Maybe it's just me, but I would rather have black women's yacht party than a white woman. But that's just me. I guess.

Speaker 2 8:27

It's all good, man.

Speaker 3 8:33

You know what I'm saying? He does eat and learn. You can learn that you just can't be talking about women's tone and nah,

Speaker 2 8:45

Let's stop this. What do you mean he can't talk about why can't we talk about whatever you want to talk about?

Speaker 3 8:51

You can, but you better be bullying prepared for the consequences. When the last time, the last woman you said some of the last time you told that I can't even fix my mouth to say that, that, that was my mom's b ro. I can't do that. I c an't. I feel like, you know what I'm saying? U h, yeah, but what was the context?, we ain't do that. What do you mean a conscious? I think it'd be basically w here's you. Ca use I w ent to school and I know more than the average or maybe I am just the average that I'm just this genius. Martin Luther King is, wh at' s his n ame? All these philosophers and these freedom fighters. I'm not there. I'm just the ne gat i ve. But th e t h ing about the c l ima te,

Speaker 4 10:12

You just said it rappers and ballplayers are the two most idolized po sitions t hat we have in th e c ommunity. Let's just say that, right? So if yo u c ome out on a platform and say XY Z, and it's a thought or substance, who are people going to listen to? They're going to listen to you. Now. He may be growing. He may not have all the answers. He's definitely not an MLK or Malcolm X, but in these times who wi ll b e l istening to, we li stened t o somebody that spoke. In fa ct, now I s aid it, Oh Jay Z said it. You're trying to kick knowledge. Yeah. If you're trying to kick knowledge, you got to come with the ba cklash. You got to come with things. That's either going to be.

Speaker 3 10:46

It's kind of like, I'm not a role model. Uh, we should not be a role model. But, but the fact is that he was, he was a ball p layer. Y ou're a b all p l ayer. We elevate you there just because he w a s s o good at something, we think you should be a leader. We think you should be the person we follow when it's not necessarily how it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 11:15

It goes into the topic is if people can separate the art from the person,

Speaker 3 11:20

You see what I'm saying? Do you listen to Michael Jackson music?

Speaker 4 11:28

You like jokes

Speaker 3 11:30

Bill, but they don't believe you, man. You. Tanya

Speaker 4 11:45

Kanye. Let's think about a Kanye. Can you appreciate his artwork versus his political views or who he stands with? I think at this day. And I think we attach the person

Speaker 2 11:54

To the art and a little bit too much.

Speaker 3 11:56

Yeah. I think the reason that is, is because if I market in bro, you got to think about when we Mark these artists, you want them to seem relatable. You want people to want to be like them. Want to follow them this whole time. That's why these, these low level artists who are not mainstream all over the globe, they don't get that same f or because no o ne's pushing them d own. Be like, LeBron b e like Rick Ross be like J Cole b e like D rake. That's just not happening.

Speaker 2 12:28

But you're saying people don't push that initiative.

Speaker 3 12:32

What I'm saying, when initiative is pushed, you get held to a lesser standard. Somebody like young s tuff a nd come out and say that about a woman having a tone an d n ot going to tr i p on him the same way as they did J c o d e. I t' s ju s t th a t.

Speaker 2 12:51

But it's that platform that J Cole based on his previous work and what he said, that was true. That people related to that puts that allows us to put J Cole on that platform. Remember we don't put people places without them actually making an effort and making a stance that resonates with us. We don't do that. Like Uzi could say some, but we were like, Oh, that's just oozy, oozy. Just saying some. J Cole say some. That going to s park a little loud. It's g oing t o make a little, u h, I'm sorry. A bigger impact than say a noon. T hey're g oing t o s cene.

Speaker 3 13:25

I agree with that. But it's also still the fact that as people, we got recognized that we made that choice and then you get denied. Then force us to, there's a lot of other g oing way more w ork and we didn't put them there. And so

Speaker 2 13:41

We just got to make those, those people be more visible. It's only, and that's the problem in our community. We only put a couple of people in the limelight and that's because as black people, our, I would make, I don't want to get too much in the episode, but our major currency bro, a hundred percent is culture. That's why our value really lies like you a lawyer. Now there's doctors out here and you could do great work. That's been great lawyers. That's done great work, but you ain't on MTV. You ain't going to bet. And guess what? We watching

Speaker 3 14:12

People hold him to a higher standard than me.

Speaker 2 14:14

And why is that? Not me bro. Not me bro. You know what I mean? Me. I, you know what I mean? I with you bro. I listened to you. I l istened to J ay Cole too. He just got better beats around when h e saying, but

Speaker 3 14:27

Yeah,

Speaker 2 14:27

You just got to get a flow. B B, B the lawyer with the flow. I bet you, you get views.

Speaker 3 14:33

Yeah.

Speaker 2 14:36

You gotta look. You gotta look like the little bit.

Speaker 3 14:42

I didn't even on character.

Speaker 2 14:43

Yo. I told, I told Jay, I told her a joke the other day I was like, yo, J Cole grew dreads a little bit too fast. So I think those extensions and he was like, yo, I was like, yo, I think he got extensions in his head

Speaker 3 14:54

One month. He

Speaker 2 14:55

Was, he got a skinny fade next month he had dreads.

Speaker 3 15:01

Nah,. We started thinking broke through that t hree o f u s.

Speaker 2 15:09

Yeah, I remember that. That, uh,, you got to go through that ugly phase. That's you don't want to come outside.

Speaker 3 15:15

Yeah. Yeah. He went through it, but he never left. Never left. You know what I'm saying? 2014 forest Hills drive. He just had a big bro bro. locked up.

Speaker 2 15:33

Oh, you know what should have happened? I'm gonna tell you on some real. What should have happened was Kyrie should have got with J Cole and they should've made a stance like this Kyrie be in the front facing

Speaker 3 15:43

Voice on this. I think they got two different messages going on right now. Y eah. But I'm saying if they w ould've got together

Speaker 2 15:49

And said like, yo J Cole is backing this that's the problem. I think with us as C, we get in too much in the episode. But I think the unifications versus the decentralization.

Speaker 3 15:59

I don't

Speaker 2 15:59

Know what this thing, this said 10 minutes, you know, you know,

Speaker 3 16:02

20 minutes. I know. I love taking a walk dog. Literally. That's a family man, man, you can't go.

Speaker 2 16:25

That's the family, man. You can't, you cannot judge a family. Man's time.

Speaker 3 16:36

My time is not my own. My brother. Not my own. I'm good, man. I miss y'all man is always

Speaker 2 16:45

Laker Jersey on England. You're not, you didn't make that trip.

Speaker 3 16:56

Oh no. I was cooking most improved player. R aptors last after the a ll s tar game.

Speaker 2 17:19

What's good though. Jay, everything go. We've just been chopping it up. It was naked.

Speaker 3 17:26

PGP. Canadians. That audio[inaudible]

Speaker 2 17:39

[inaudible]

Speaker 3 17:42

I had a visual, no audio audio video. We got a full corner.

Speaker 2 17:52

Can't can't can't ain't got that. So upside profile. This just, I just shaped h im.

Speaker 3 18:02

You do what he does credit.

Speaker 2 18:03

No, but that's good. Yeah. What's up G so man, you like, you, you be hopping in G we can't see you. We on one hand from you an d t h en h e got in h is crib. I just sent you a photo with will Smith and his dog. He was petting his dog. I was like, yo, I think th at's J e an.

Speaker 3 18:26

Oh, I am London. And the bubble

Speaker 2 18:35

Kenny Canon was just telling me like, yo being by yourself is different because Canon just moved into his car.

Speaker 3 18:41

And I was just like

Speaker 2 18:55

G to type the, have visited us late at night that we don't even know about. Yeah. G the type of go pick them up from the airport. Drop them off. You're gonna stay with me for that

Speaker 3 19:16

Two weeks.

Speaker 2 19:22

Nah, man. But y'all did y'all get the, um, the script type.

Speaker 3 19:28

Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 19:30

Uh, call it June teeth and Kyrie. I thought those were great. Uh, great opposing relevant sort of thoughts. So I thought that y'all would really have it right here, but just to start it off, man, I'm just like Jay said, you know, I'm, I'm happy to see y'all man. We don't really do this as often as we used to do it. So we always recording now. Hey Mike, the mic, the mic cut. Don't be like Jesse Jackson out here and say some wild about Obama while the mic is u p. I don't know if y'all remember. U h, yeah, we r ecorded everything. I got it recorded on zoom and I got a recording for the, for the people right here. I just want to make sure I hear everybody c an, can y'all hear me good.

Speaker 3 20:14

Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 20:16

Welcome to the coffee guys. Welcome to the cubby. Another edition. This is a, another edition that we're coming back for during this pandemic. During these marching times, during these protest times, this your host T Lou T Lou dude, what to do as you know, we have our cast members here trying to get through the quarantine times, getting through the pandemic times as best as possible. And what way to do that better than just to speak to the people that you're close with. So we got our people right here. I'm going to go with we on zoom and we recorded. We on zoom and we recorded. So I'm going to go for my I'm going to go from my right to left and just have them introduce themselves. Once again, you're listening to the cubby. What is the cubby? The cubby is four to five, five to four black men coming together in this society. Try to get you from point a to point B, just relating to you on a lot of these different topics, whatever that you're going through. Doesn't matter what color or creed that you come from. But it's important to understand each and every one of our points a nd places, we all come from different areas of the country. W e got three of us in California and we got one man that wrote that. He's about to introduce himself. He's from Detroit. So go ahead, my man to my right.

Speaker 3 21:25

All right. All right, man. Well, good. What up though? Boy. See Thomas on the ground. I'm alive. They'll call it out here. Even though

Speaker 2 21:38

Know like a J Cole.

Speaker 3 21:41

You know what I'm saying? It's a lot going on, man, but I'm happy to be there.

Speaker 2 21:45

All right. So keep going around, man. I'm I'm really happy to see y'all man.

Speaker 3 21:48

All right. What's going on, man. Jay dub. Deuces. What's up? Well, mr. Guys, I'll be casting full of facts just out here, living my best life. Trying to stay sane sober week. Um, no, just kind of making the best of all the situations, man. Like

Speaker 2 22:07

Yo Jay, you just came back from walking blue, right?

Speaker 3 22:10

Yeah. Yeah. Especially with the family time, man

Speaker 2 22:13

Is blue like more aware of other people around them than normal. Does that make sense? I'm trying to say just because he's been quarantined, I don't know if he's going outside as much as he usually does, but I can probably assume that he's not as friendly towards others as he used to be. But I guess

Speaker 3 22:32

He's just blue man. You got a smell. You gone, he gonna run through you. You gonna get a phone that

Speaker 2 22:38

Big dog i s still running t he people. H i man. And our last cast member t here, he just came in a nd out from the video. I don't know what h e'd d one, but you got i t, man.

Speaker 3 22:52

GP, GP music, bro. I'm on the ground.

Speaker 2 22:59

I would say it for you, man. I miss that. But yeah man. So, so today is June 10th and I think it's important for us all to recognize that today's Juneteenth is a very important day for our community in general, but you guys know there's been a lot of stuff in the, in the news going back and forth terms in terms of what we're going to do and how we're celebrating today. So first of all, I want to say happy Juneteenth to all you guys are listening and happy, happy John team to everybody. We gotta keep saying that louder and louder for us to know and recognize what this day means to us. So I want to ask a straightforward question to our cast members before we get started. I would just want to know what is Juneteenth mean to you and how have you guys been celebrating June team all day today? I'm going to go ahead and start with, uh, J

Speaker 3 23:48

Wanted to me is, uh, is one of the last is k ind o f the end of us not being out the loop, b ut r epresent t he don't know Trump made a lot of people educated t hrough it in his own words. U m, the last official d ay o f the form of slavery. So it's like everybody kind of being educated in that one little area of Texas people, not knowing about it two and a half years later. Um, so to me, I think the official day of black independence independence in this country,

Speaker 4 24:28

Man. Yeah.

Speaker 3 24:29

I mean, they hit it right on the head man. Just the true, the true independence for our people. Um, we all know emancipation proclamation that the motivation behind that wasn't even necessarily the freedom, you know, was really just to help them in the war and some soldiers who was fighting for the fight for the union. So he said, well, I'll come over here. You're fine with me. And so that's kind of the motivation behind it. And so I look at June, see, there's definitely that first time a week, we got that through independence from slavery. Um, and just kind of the beginning of working, where are we at right now? You know what I'm saying? It's transformed in a sense, but that was a very big moment for our people. So got some ways to go as we see what's going on today,

Speaker 4 25:23

You do anything. You do anything crazy for today to celebrate Juneteenth,

Speaker 3 25:27

Man. And I started working with a little bit later, you know, a little bit later, I was happy. I was happy about that because not that I worked with a certain point where I can afford to do that. So, um, that's kind of mean to me, man, freedom. Right? I got freedom in a lot of senses. I'm my own boss right now. So that's what I always wanted. That's a lot of freedom right there. Hey man, I leave it alone All the time, but I leave when I want. That's all I just want to work. So that's a good thing. Independent and dependent on different forms.

Speaker 4 26:18

What about UGI? You do anything special for today or what is Juneteenth mean to you?

Speaker 3 26:24

No, I didn't do anything special, but um, yeah, just a moniker for a day to be remembered a day. That means something to us, but not necessarily to the society as a whole, you know what I mean? And we need people to be awakened or woken to that concept. You know, this was only just done a couple of years ago, really in the grips with time, you know what I mean? So in the era and the climate that we have right now, people need to feel welcome to that fact that this is something that's always been allowed, but something that always near and dear special to our hearts has been, like you said, one of the last days we had t o ever h ave to really deal with slavery in that sense. But, u m, you know, we l ive t hat we move on, we push and we keep fighting for a n ew d ate. And I just l ook at it mainly, like I said, i t's that d ata. D o you remember? But also a m aster patient a s a race.

Speaker 2 27:19

I think that thank you G that this actually as well said in terms of how other people are viewing this day as well. And I think the masses should view it as that. Right. It's it's a day for us and it's a day for unity. Um, so my quick question to y'all and I know I'm going to get into the cubby rules. I know Canon just reminded me like, bro, what's up with the cubby rules. I'm sitting there like, yeah, we need to do those cubby rules. But before we do that, I think the bigger question is when did you actually become aware of or know what Juneteenth was? I really, I think that's a huge question for us today, but also what are we doing to highlight the importance of Juneteenth and how is that going to be nationally recognized if not already as compared to something as important as independence day in this society. Uh, but before we do move forward, I got to say the rules, man. I know I'm a little rusty i n t here. There's been some times where I got off, but the first rule of the c ubby is if this is your first time listening, that there are no rules that h ave copies of s peaking. Second, o ne l i ttle c u p o f y ears, whatever you bring, you go t t o f inish today. I d one gr own u p. I got a little Starbucks with me.

Speaker 3 28:33

[inaudible]

Speaker 2 28:33

Well, I'm not gonna lie to you. I can't keep track of how much time with be c anceling.

Speaker 3 28:40

You gotta read the message.

Speaker 2 28:42

Listen, I've been in quarantine. I can't watch everything. I, I can't watch and all that, but whatever you bring, you gotta finish. Of course I bought this. I'm gonna finish that reluctantly. Now, uh, the third rule is to be yourself. Cause ain't nobody worried about you in the cubby. The fourth rule is to stay on your P's and Q's because you never know what happened to the Covey. I love that. Pause. That pause really hit for rule. The most important rule is that you only have three times in a cubby. I know you guys have listened to us for quite some time, but if you are ever going to join us here in the cubby, you only get three times in Covey. So the topic for today, man, just because Juneteenth is so important. I wanted to know. And I guess the people wanted to know as mentioned before, what does it take for Juneteenth to be recognized on the same scale as independence day? And is that realistic? You think us as a, as a community, being a minority in this country that we could take Juneteenth and populize it or commercialize it as much as independence then? Cause in my opinion, I don't think that's possible, but I really wanted to get you guys' opinion on that. I think it's possible,

Speaker 3 29:42

Man. Black people that do so much more than anybody., we need it. If anybody needed a date, the whole country needs a day off. That's another point we get, we getting days off. But on the scale of independence day though, you, you think that's realistic? Cause I'm saying like independence day. Okay. So the country got liberated. Okay. Boom. Okay. Everybody get the day off. But the people who helped build the countries and they get liberated, we all need the day off. Y'all want people exactly like y'all was doing t o u s. That's what I understand. The same reason we got rid of b read, right? This was happening o n our home soil. So we a re n eeded o ff. Y ou k now what I'm saying? Why not? We get Christmas off. We get T hanksgiving, all kinds of that it really ain't got nothing to do with black people. Well the only wireless brother, that's the only let's let's let's I think for sure, it's going to be a holiday, maybe not the next like five, 10 years, but definitely in our lifetime, there's going to be a recognized holiday. Cause I'll be honest. I just learned about Juneteenth like three or four years ago. Yeah. I don't think that made, I don't know if it was just like New York, East coast, Bronx, anything, but I know a lot of the people in my inner circle, we didn't learn about that within like the last five years, Jay I'm with you, man. I'm with you, the holiday, the history, the term, nothing was just a regular day. I had a small Italian man. I learned about that. And definitely you can see on that one right there because I learned these out here.[i naudible] f i reworks s omebody banging on a d o pe. I learned in h igh school too. I learned about the word and just kind of wa s t h e h oliday. So I got to college an d l e arn t he history, but I ju st t alked it up to D etroit as being a black city an d a whole bunch of black people. But I' m a J on this one.

Speaker 4 32:40

I didn't know what Juneteenth was. I'm gonna keep an eye on it. I didn't know what Juneteenth was until I moved. Yeah, but it's just not, maybe it was the area I was from. It just wasn't like a thing like June 19th would come up and it was just the day after the 18th and the day before the 20th, you see what I'm saying? Like we didn't really have, you know, father's day is the big thing in June.

Speaker 3 33:06

The biggest, the biggest thing,

Speaker 4 33:10

My father, they real is just an extended lunch. Like really don't do for father's day.

Speaker 3 33:15

Like real

Speaker 4 33:19

Was grilling. You know that ain't going on grill. But that's the huge thing. I think that's an important part about just the, the awareness of it. And I really learned the history when I was in Texas and now it came back. So for GE to say that he learned that in high school, I think it, it gives breath to us as a society, but it also shows just how we aren't unified in our history enough for everybody to know the impact in which it has. That's why I'm asking how straight out the gate, how y'all feel about Juneteenth. And if you did anything fun about it.

Speaker 3 33:48

So I guess that would be more of a regional this year is definitely the highlighted. And that's what I was. That's what I was saying about, about it being a holiday. Like now we got the internet and information is unavoidable. Like you can't, there's no longer the excuse. I didn't know. Like now it's like was social media and just the access to information where the information is. There's no way people won't know about Juneteenth anymore. know a bout all these other random holidays, like hot d og h olidays.

Speaker 4 34:44

And can the banks close too? Cause I'll be honest with you. It's not a holiday to me unless the banks are closed.

Speaker 3 34:49

They'll national holiday. That's how I know. It's l ike earth day holiday. We got what's the last new holiday. Like what's the last, like w hat d o you mean? Like what was the last r ecent holiday? Whether it's like p resident's d ay,

Speaker 4 35:17

They got rid of, uh, Abraham Lincoln, Dane and George Washington name. And then they just made t he p resident's. N ow I just know that because of the audio.

Speaker 3 35:25

Yeah, it was, you get a good mattress on that day. We getting for June team,

Speaker 4 35:38

What do we do?

Speaker 3 35:43

Like what are we getting stimulus from ancestry. And you find out if your parents was a slave and then you get like, you know what I'm saying? Like, are you fill out the little unemployment, filling your ancestry? So you're talking about reparations and if they can't find your record by$65,

Speaker 4 36:41

1800 hours. And I, and I think that bleeds into the next topic, like really just what is the community willing to sacrifice for radical independence? What are you willing to give up? And this, this bleeds into the, uh, the Kyrie conversation. I know you guys are big sports fans and you understand where Kyrie is positioned. So before we kind of move forward, I want to know where, where do you lie? Are you with Kyrie and or are you not retiree? And if you don't know the topic at hand, K yrie, doesn't want to start the basketball season just to show protests and align ourselves with the fact that we can be independent and show others the power that we have in terms of our society. So where are you standing on that topic? Are you on one side of the fence that says we should continue basketball and go back to everything that's normal? Are you stating the fact of s aying, Hey, let's put focus on these initiatives of our society and make sure that others understand that we n ot playing no games out here. So where do y'all stand on that incident? I'm gonna start with G really quickly because I know you played ball in college and just the different aspects of it. Where do you stand on that line?

Speaker 3 37:52

I feel like that coin two sides t o that coin, but also more sides to the story. Y ou k now w hat I m ean? O n one side there's, there's the business side of it all. Uh, t here needed to be money, an i nflux of money in the economy. Sports is one of those vehicles for that. It's also a way for people's att entions to be placed in one direction. And the sort of inject that euphoria that we miss fro m soc iety. The other side of that is the personal side, you know, and tho se people that actually work in that labor force, you know what I'm saying? You got sports athletes that actually need that money. You know, they may have, it may be gett ing lik e, you know, 200 cash che c ks, bu t ther e are cos t s of living ther e. Co st of everything has went up since they've gotten that new money. So it's like they got to k ee p up with their own living arrangements, you know, Dubai game by game tech, yo u know, and some of those people really need that money. So I see why some players are saying, Hey, that. Like we really need to play becau se we'r e younger in the league. We're not necessarily a super superstar getting all this bread, but look, man, I'm a second year player. My contract is only 300 K for t he y ear. Like that' s noth i ng, you know what I mean? Or whoever the three meal, I'm just saying for t hem.

Speaker 2 39:18

[inaudible]

Speaker 3 39:20

And then there's the third side and there's the third side. That's the social side, the side that we're, we're, we're enlightened where right now, you know, the political climate that's going on right now in the social atmosphere. So it's like, do you want sports to serve as a distraction? Or do you want the players that are, that occupied 90 to 95% of these leads and are just as much as important as a voice in the community as a black diaspora is to give them an opportunity to stand up and say, what's right for themselves, or to shut up, shut up and play. Can you do both at the same time? That's the way we are with it. That's why we're discussing Tyree. Right? I, I, I, I grew up with GSA, but I think it's actually, you can really do both at the same time. And at first I was upset about the whole not upset, irritated, cause it's Kyrie, you know, that's his, that's how I view him.

Speaker 2 40:26

What you talking about, man, speaking his mind and you going to tell him that he's, man, come on.

Speaker 3 40:32

It's not just a fake word. He's not a, contrarion just call him a country areas

Speaker 2 40:41

Saying the man, bro, for speaking to me,

Speaker 3 40:49

Not my movement at all, but every rally leader versus Kyrie doesn't strike me as a leader. He's in a very different place where he's not playing and it's only came up when he realized he wasn't going. And he's super breaded compared to the other players and making his own league. It's just like

Speaker 2 41:13

Wrong with that, bro. Come on. Let's talk about it, us empowering ourselves in order to organize off of the talent that we have as a community. Why can't we just get up and say, yeah,

Speaker 3 41:23

I can't even say those plans while you're a current employee of the NBA. Like I'm sure that's a direct violation, but I thought it was not about not entertaining the white people. If you make a new league, how are you not entertaining? The whites?

Speaker 4 41:38

Yeah. They're not, they're not benefiting off of it as much as they would prior to it's within the community.

Speaker 3 41:45

I'll put money in a pocket. But I do agree though, if black people stop cleaning, cause we always talked about it. Like man, the black people are like the sports entertainment, everything. We run, the music we run, we run the dances. You talk about the culture. That's our current culture. Like these basketball players. They say how people cut their hair, how they dress, like how they wag and then going back and forth. And so if the rappers aren't having concerts and the basketball players aren't, you know, given, putting on shows in arenas where the white people don't have no more to be entertained by i t just like back in the day when h e was going to M anny, it was still getting entertained by these s eats. N ow i t'd be kind of hard and then t hey'd go in and pick it u p right after they get off work. It's kind of like that. You just can't do hand-in-hand now yet we appropriated the basketball football and we dominate that position. Right. We dominate that, but we're still the players. The players are not. So what are they, what are they doing then that plans, how do they spend the rest of the year? I don't know what they do. I don't know. But I'm biased. I would love to see them play, but I get it if you don't wanna entertain, because the thing about black people are the biggest entertainers, but yet the poorest group is so backwards.

Speaker 4 43:18

That's because they're benefiting off the labor and that's how it's always been. You benefit off those that do the work as a society or as a group. So if you're going to either stand and I guess that goes back to what Canon was saying, Amegy was saying, so you, so the fact is that you have to pick sides. You can't do both. Is that the back you either.

Speaker 3 43:42

Yeah, but it's only one L eBron. Yeah. I think, I think that the degrees, right? You c an't be a f ull b lown p icket i n every day. I'm going to city halls every day and playing basketball full time. Right. But I do think there's a middle ground where you can be playing, use your position to be an activist. Right? Like they, when they w ant, I can't breathe. T-shirts, that's one of the first things that came up. I can't breathe th ese s h irts. And I think if they host that press conference, if they do their donations th at t hey're like, yo, this is in the honor of Rihanna Taylor, you know what I'm saying? I think if they continue to se t l ight on these injustices that we're going through, that's th e w ay to like, yo, all these white people are watching us. Let's use our platform. Yeah. But we did

Speaker 4 44:32

That already. Jay we've been doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 44:38

[inaudible] I think it should be an ongoing thing. Like it shouldn't be like, yo, we going to do this all February. I think this should be like, yo, if we're going to play this season, every single game, every single, every single, if we going to move and be showing up to work, what we work in, but working with these, we're constantly reminded like, yo, this XYZ, all of the money that we have, this have to be some kind of contribution to like police or to police, uh, black people who are being killed by police. Or if we're going to do it, if they're going to do it, I think they have to continue, continue to fight. Because if not, what are they doing? I want to respond to that day. I have a long term goal. Like my own selfish reasons. I would love that because then we get to talk about the NBA, but I just think people will get desensitized exactly. And over and over, it'd be like another NBA cares commercial board game. Do we have a solution or is it just what I'm saying is for Kyrie and Avery Bradley that message of we're no longer entertaining. I think that'd be more powerful than anything. Any of them individually on the streets, you heard their hockey.

Speaker 4 46:14

No, you go fat. If I don't eat or not. I'm sorry. Not, not, not if I don't eat, if my people are not respected to the fact in which

Speaker 3 46:22

I apologize

Speaker 4 46:25

And I, and I think, and honestly, that's the Malcolm good approach. Isn't it? Isn't that the Malcolm approach both by any means necessary. We're not going to put ourselves in this light for you to be entertained and smile and forget about the tragedies. And this is what cap was kneeling. Full cap cap was ahead of this.

Speaker 3 46:43

Not that bad to get a job, that's the problem. And that's not genuine. Now you're gonna get a job.

Speaker 4 46:54

So I guess, I guess, I guess the question is, and, and I, and I know we've all been a part of this community, all our lives, right? Right. You've been a part of this community, all our lives, you know, power, power to the people, especially black people stay beautiful, but it's one of the ideal factors or one of the problems that we considered within this community is the difference between being unified on th e f ront end and things always being opposing for us to not get things done because we have so many different voices, so many different views. What if we really unified on a strong front to say, this is what we're doing. Do you guys feel that we can make significant change in this or ganization, in this society, whether it Juneteenth being respected as much as in dependence d a y o r us b ecoming economically free, are these th ings, are these things that you see in our community as a pain point, us being unified versus us always having, u m, v aried opinions or co ntradictory

Speaker 3 47:45

Hell yeah, bro. I feel like this is a great time, A great time for change, a great time for people to stand together. We're already getting more people involved in this fight this time than there has ever been. Like the revolution is being televised. You know, it's everywhere for anyone to see it. You know, without last atrocity that we saw with the guy, you know, having this neck, being kneeled upon, like it doesn't get any more degrading than that. You know what I'm saying? For people to have to witness and even as a, uh, as a human race to have to see that happen. And I think because of that, that's been the biggest role up until this point, you know, white people have actually got on the test to see their own doing some despicable on camera. It a in't t here ain't no g uess what happened. It ain't no, if you don't feel something you just s aid, yeah, something's not right with you. If you don't feel something in a, in a pit of your stomach, watching that man s cream for his life, t hen he cannot b reathe. M ama calling out for the most rent a nd t he, and the g uy t elling him, well, if you get in the car, y ou k now, y ou w ill be all right. He's asking, let me up. And they're not letting them up

Speaker 4 49:10

Minutes.. I don't even e ight m inutes straight like that. I a in't, I'm g onna keep it honest with you. Eight minutes and 20 seconds, 46, 48 minutes and 46 seconds. Someone o n y our n eck a nd his hands in his pocket,

Speaker 3 49:26

Three them

Speaker 4 49:32

It's, it's literally disgusting. It is disgusting. And I think, and I think that goes back to what, uh, GE was just saying about the allies now that we have, because of the blatant disrespect that we saw with, you know, rip George, Florida, uh, how are we treating our allies though? And I, and I bring this up because I think a lot of different communities are showing their support, but are they showing it in a genuine way for us to understand? Or are they just going with the moves and the motions, Jay, what do you think about that in terms of the allies that we have in our community, whether it's in the white community, the Asian community, or the Latino community are, is this genuine sort of support or are they just fixated on what's now?

Speaker 3 50:18

I can't speak for all allies, but I do know if we have actual allies, we need to embrace them. You know what I'm saying? Like if we have somebody who's willing to extend themselves to like, listen, I didn't realize she was that bad. Cause I think to your point, like the George Lloyd was just like a visual representation of what constantly happens in the black community. And I think a lot of white folks were taken off guard like, yo, this is crazy. Um, and I do think it opened up a lot of eyes, which is why we're starting to see such a diverse group of allies. So anybody that's willing to be an ally let's do it. But the, what I won't stand for is people who are performative allies. Like, listen, I'm going to do the black screen on who they are. I'm a write this post. I'm a retreat with this. Like I want actual action. Like if you're a person in power, like the dude from, um, Marina's husband or E's husband, the one that worked for, u h, Reddit. Y eah. A ctually t hat actually stepped down from a position, was like, listen, I'm stepping down from my C-level position, b ut I want a black person to take my place. T hat's actual a ction. I feel like if we have some people who are actual allies, I need action. Not just performance based t hings. Let's do actual a ction. So if you're willing to be an ally and you do have the ability and capability to be an ally, whether you're not in t he f irst m illion, n ot a C-suite person, but just stop the. If you see somebody m aking a n insensitive or bigoted joke, like, yo, that's not cool. That's not okay. That's not cool. Like speak up. I continue to be an ally and just actually be an ally, but I'm not g oing t o turn anybody away. Who's g oing t o h elp our f light. That's like an extra soldier on the battlefield. I'm all for that.

Speaker 2 52:00

Have either one of you guys had that experience with a n ally that you felt that wasn't being genuine GPO c annon,

Speaker 3 52:06

That wasn't being genuine, that wasn't

Speaker 2 52:08

Being genuine. Like they, like you felt as though it was something that we're doing, just because it's on national news because I have,

Speaker 3 52:16

I haven't, I haven't actually had a, actually had a coworker call me like maybe one week after j oining a nd n o w as like such a, she was so uncomfortable that it let me know that she was g enuine. She called was like, honestly, I wasn't g oing t o do it, but I couldn't just b e quiet anymore. And I didn't, it was just bothering me. And I don't know if this is inappropriate for the word situation, but I just feel like I have to speak up and she just k inda like poured her heart out. And I was just like, honestly, like just you calling and just letting me know how you feel was like a great start. But what I would like to see happen is like, if you are in situations, like speak up. And then we started speaking about her background family and law enforcement. And I was just like, o kay. I mean, like, this seems, t his i s a genuine as it is. And I'm somebody who I'm my New York mentality i s like, I don't really believe. Anybody says, I actually feel like she, her heart was in the right place. So I haven't, u nfortunately I haven't felt, I don't feel like I've been g lad anybody just kind of blowing smoke or g as

Speaker 2 53:19

GP. I know, I know you'll be in your house mostly, but any phone calls,

Speaker 3 53:26

But uh, randomly enough, um, my neighbor, my neighbor wrote a note and left it on my door. Um, she wrote a card and, uh, it was really touching, you know, it was touching and genuine. Um, she's a white female. She just moved in a couple months ago. And um, you know, there's, there's a really tight stairwell right there, staircase, you know what I mean? So when we see each other, it's kind of, you know, I, I know it's a little startling sometimes you just never know you'll run into your neighbor. You know how that is. Like at first, when we, our front doors are like two feet away from one another, so i t's l ike, Whoa, you know, see th em o ne day. But yeah, so she, she wrote a nice little card tha t sa i d ba sically, you know, just letting you know, you know, u m, I am cool, you know, basically, yeah. You have a friend in me, her e's my phone number. If you ever need anything, like yeah. If you wan t to co me over and have a drink, let's do that. And let's talk about som e th i ngs an d can I come over one day or whatever? So yeah. I invited her ove r like the next day and, uh, she turned out to be really cool. So yeah.

Speaker 2 54:34

So that's, so that moment got you guys together. You were unified in that moment through the tragedy that was going on. And I honestly think that's

Speaker 3 54:44

Yeah, because even in her notes, she said, you know, uh, there was like one day I spoke to her, I c alled her, y ou k now, walking, Hey, how you doing or whatever, I'm Gary, just going to introduce myself, I'm your neighbor. And s he's, I c ould tell h er that day you w ere kind of really trying to see how I was, y ou k now, or what my, you know, w hat I was thinking. And she was like, you know, that's not, you know, I'm not that kind of a person, you know, in case you do think that or whatever, j ust, you know, I'm being friendly, but it was good to know that, you know, she's a normal person. That's not being led by the color of someone's skin. So that was, that was awesome.

Speaker 2 55:17

I see it. I see it. Uh, I see it a little bit differently and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm on the fence about it because I've been, I've been going to work. I've been having these experiences, but a lot of these different experiences where I believe not necessarily forced, but it was enabled because of the positions that I, I kind of surround myself in with people. So I had a lot of people at work that would reach out and do certain things. And I know when it's genuine or not, but the matter of fact that some of these organizations is, uh, is allowing or forcing some employees to have conversations already has me on edge a little bit. Uh, those are the things that I feel

Speaker 3 55:56

By that

Speaker 2 56:01

In different organizations or even in my organizations, it was a, it was an attempt for management or others to speak to your black employees in order to let them know where they stand. Now, my whole thing is, if you don't do that off a general tip of how you feel about a situation and it gets pushed upon you as a work item, those are the things that I kind of take, take a step back from and say, okay, where we right

Speaker 4 56:24

Now is this genuine? Or is it not? Now when those conversations happen? I think we can always pick out if it's genuine or if it's something forced to do. But, but I think a lot of people in this society right now are those that are part of the white majority or those that are not in our community are looking to be a part of this movement only because it's national news. And I think most of those times it's going to come off as wrong. So if you are going to approach someone, I think the best conversation to have is something similar to what Jamie said, Hey, I'm not too much aware of this. I don't know what's going on, but if you need me, I'm here to listen. If you need me to come over and get a drink, I'm here. If it's things of the sort of, well, we're going to go the extra mile for you to feel satisfied, I'm going to give you a gift. I'm going to give you money. I'm going to give you this just because now I understand that black people are dying.. Black people have been down for you. And now because it's national news, you are enabled or you are told. And I think a lot of people are told what to do. They don't really feel a genuine interest in doing things. And I can spot that out a mile away. If you do that, I'm not saying everyone's done it. But I have certain experiences where I have been approached with that was a genuine thought and feeling of mine. Now, that's not saying it's right or wrong because I can't tell somebody's true intent. Like they may come off a certain way. But if you do have that intent in which you do not really know what's going on, or you do not feel that way, state that upfront, don't try to work around it and then give the political answer in order for it to move forward. That's that's been my experience.

Speaker 3 57:57

Do you feel like it's disingenuous when they actually broken?

Speaker 4 58:02

I feel like it's disingenuous. If I get the nature that it is being disingenuous, I could only go with how I feel about the situation and if I'm wrong, we can have a conversation about it. But if you step to me in a certain way, and it comes off a certain way, I'm going to say, you know me, I'm gonna say, Hey, it feels like a script. This feels like a script.

Speaker 3 58:21

I'll tell you this. I feel like this brought out, you know, both sides as, as it always does. You know, both sides of both players on both sides of the field. Um, because even in my, in my little complex here, like I would never even think that people would be worried about it so much, but yeah, like I can walk into my complex one t hen, and a few o ther white neighbors up in the front. You know, when you come in, they had a sign, t he p osters in their window, you know, black lives matter a nd all kinds of s tuff. And I'm like, wow, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, one time. But th e w h ole t e am, you know what I mean? Like, and then just this past weekend, you know, I see a pool and I have to call him a fool because he was, he's no t, he s topped in the turning lane, the far left turning lane to make a left turn somewhere. Right. He sees a black lives matter poster on the far right side of the road. This man hops out of his truck, puts it in mind. You he's in the turning lane, ran over three lanes of traffic to g o g o ing, rip the po ster d own off the po le t icket and go all crazy, ho p i n his car and then drive on t he light was turning green. This is bringing out both sides. Oh, how the hell was he anonymous? Everybody else is trying to be anonymous. Everybody saw you just throw a tantrum on a piece of paper, like so fast. I don't think every white person in the world ain't going to get, I was like,, did that really just happen? That's crazy. You gotta rip off a poster on a light.

Speaker 4 1:00:10

It's the same thing that happened in Huntington beach, bro. I was in Huntington beach and y'all the road was so divided on the left side was black lives matter. And people on the right side seemed like white supremacists. It was the most, everything I've ever seen in my life. Huntington beach is a central part.

Speaker 3 1:00:35

But the G's point though, like it's both sides and I'm kinda, I'm gonna go with Tyrese. Lot of something smells fish with the company. You know, like every company, it seems like every company has to make a steak. That's CR we know that people like all local bank of America said Ben, and Jerry's like, ministers, don't give a. If they look at that surface. And really think, you know, the people they live in,

Speaker 4 1:01:12

Dan let's have a real conversation. I hate that PR person.

Speaker 3 1:01:17

No, that. And so, you know what I'm saying? Like, people buying that, eating it up and it's, and it's creating this big storm of this is what I should be doing because everyone's doing it. And it just feels like a lot like lip service. So I'm with tea that I'm not necessarily fully embracing people right away. I'm a more so teaching. I'm not part of that generation, that camp that's like, yo, Hey, go learn on your own. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of information out there. Do the research. Then there's so much going on there. I don't know, but I'm not, I ain't got time to just sit there and research how to be better to black people. Right? Exactly. I'm looking at other stuff about the LGBT community or the mental illness community. But I do know there's certain words I'm not going to say. And I learned that. I'll be honest. I did say though, that's where friend that's messed up. I don't even care that much to be disrespectful to that class of people. So I'm not even, you know, better. You do better, man. Exactly. And so that's, that's really what I want from white people. I don't need you to go out there and spend a lot of bread unless you're in a position. But really what I need is just in your inner circle in your daily, but you carry your phone. I can't measure that, but you see some o n like i t,

Speaker 2 1:02:49

I'm gonna take it from New York. If you see something,

Speaker 3 1:02:52

Say something safer.

Speaker 2 1:02:55

That's my point. If you see something, say something, I think we're all in this together. And I think just to, just to close this segment up, it is about unity. I just mentioned the Huntington beach view or where I was in Huntington beach. And just the division that I saw does not help us. And I, and I do want to praise a lot of the people that's going on to the protest because it is multi. Uh, it is very diverse. It is very diverse. If you are out here in these streets, I know cannon, he meant to a couple of protests. I've been to a protest or two out here in Irvine. I'm not sure if, u h, Jamie or G abby has, and that's no slight on anything. It's a pandemic out here. That's number one. I want people to realize that, but number two, but number two, the support that we're getting from these allies are those that are willing to be down with back light. Ma dn ess has been huge. And I do just wan t to put that out there, like Jamie said, support your supp ort is m an. And that, an d tha t's always a huge thing that we do. I think I'm going to get into the fact s, ma n. I know you guys got a couple of facts that you deal with. You mentioned that one of the facts that I had w as b lac k economic independence will lead to another civil war.

Speaker 3 1:04:07

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:04:08

Imagine if the biggest demographic consumer demographic just says, it. This has happened before fellows it's happened before, when t here's b een the resources said, it. The world became divided fa cts. I want to know y' all o pinion on that.

Speaker 3 1:04:26

Nah, man, that's right on the money. I mean, you saw what happened with the black wall street. So they see black people getting some money, not a granddaughter from years ago, but they was making serious cheese and that blue up, do wn w i th i t k i lled t he whole to wn. Ca use e v erybody d o wnward. So if w e really became producers to where we were independent as a people, almost like people are, I d e al w ith people, yo u g o t t o t h ink b a ck a nd they go od. They're excellent at dealing within their own co mmunity. And they bu ilt s uch a ni ce b ridge and network that it c an't really get that, you know, to d i sturbed f rom the outside that this is over years and years and years to o t h ough. I mean, and they also Je wish. So J ewish Jewish, wh ile w e c a n d o, I don't know if you ever saw the fa mily, but if you pay attention to that video, he shows like his family years go ing f r om l i ke 2 0, 20, 2,400 to 3,200 fa milies. And one of the periods of the year though, it was like sil ver wa r between black people and wh i te an d 3, 200 or whatever the year was bla ck pe o ple. B ut I do think it' s go ing to have to take the ci vil war. I mean, that's the only whatever they ever had. They took it. Yea h. T hey bro ught it That we didn't have right hand. We h ave, we have a n h our,

Speaker 2 1:06:30

But now man, that's a fact, man. I know another fact that I always tell people is that yo, you need white friends. If you don't got white friends, white friends, if you don't have white friends in 2020, I don't think you understand the full picture. I don't, I don't think it's good to not have a diverse mindset or just to be able to sympathize with another group. So if you don't have white friends, get somebody

Speaker 3 1:06:52

Friends, give me friends like my friends,

Speaker 2 1:06:56

Honestly too. Come on now. Wait, hold on. Not one of y'all g ot t o wait for him., you ain't got one white person you can call on and be like, yo, this is some bro. Like, what's your,

Speaker 3 1:07:11

I don't know, man. I'm not as strong as the other one needs to be the other way around every white friend that every white person,

Speaker 2 1:07:28

If a black, if a black person has a white friend, white people don't have black

Speaker 3 1:07:32

Friends. So

Speaker 2 1:07:35

It's not mutually exclusive is what you're telling me.

Speaker 3 1:07:41

I agree with Jean on that one b ecause, because you g ot t o think about i t. Like in society, we always get the white perspective. Like more times than not, we get exposed to white people's perspective o n t hings. T he people in power. T hey're the ones that don't run this, hire these don't hire these. S o I think it's important for a white person to understand like, okay, this is a f lat and t his black p erson educating them to t hings because I may be so blind to what a black p erson i s going to put on a white person. I m ean, but a person we already exposed to white people t hroughout you can't avoid t his i mpossible k ind o f l ike t hat p hrase for lack of a better phrase. Like you need a woman's touch. Sometimes black woman's touch you. Seeing the life through one, one particular sk ill p erspective. Your whole time of existence al l o v er T V. You know what I'm saying? The white ma n c e ntral, what I'm saying like th is c ountry is representative of white men. Y'all got a question for y'all would y'all be upset if a white man told you that this is a white country.. If he, after it, let's talk about, I wo uldn't b e upset. Yes, I couldn't. I couldn't help bu t b e upset, but I h a I, I co uldn't, I fe ll a way and I wo uld b e de ad b ecause of the phone that is delivered automatically subservient to you. He's a white man and he's no t l ike, he's li ke, li terally l ike, yo, this is a white ma n's c o untry. You can't do nothing about it. No, no, no, no matter what. No. Why can't you just say this is a a n d A merica country[i naudible] s ound like a memo. Be to w as letting us know in c a se I forgot.

Speaker 2 1:10:18

I think, I think those two f acts w as w arranted. U m, yeah, I know. I know we discussed a lot of today about, u h, t he diversity of our country and just having the different effects that the recent activities has done. But let's show some love a little bit go into, I l ove hi s l ove statement, man. I wa nna, I wa nna s tart with, u h, m y love is love statement because I feel like everyone, especially during these times, comedy clubs need to open and they are be open. They will be opening up, but comedy is life man. And I know that's something that people don't want to hear ca use i t does inject a lot of different, u m, s tereotypes in being dismissive. But comedy is about truth. And if you speak truth, and if you hold everybody to the same standards, then we ca n a ll that for ourselves at some point in time. And it might not be the right moment now, but it will come back to a time where we're h onest and we do get to v oice our own op inion. So comedy is life. Life is comedy comedy li fe. Try to laugh during these times. If you can, with those that you're close with, whether you're with your white fr iend o r your black friend, it d oesn't matter. Just try to try to laugh as much as possible who got that Ca non G J you guys go t i t. Lo ves l ove statement.

Speaker 3 1:11:31

Um, I just, I just was thinking of one a s y ou w ere talking, man. U m, t hat's k inda like, yeah, just off the top, man. I think a good love i s love statement. Just kind of thinking, u h, in, u m, in the name of like Juneteenth simple love i s love. Statement is lift every voice I'm saying, like, I think i f everybody understands that they do have a voice and then we bring with t he, I mean, everybody do what they gotta do. U m, let us March on until victory is w on. I think t hat that's an important song. Actually.

Speaker 2 1:12:16

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Speaker 3 1:12:17

The harmony of Liberty, you know what I'm saying? A song, but it's but just thinking about what that song represents battle, man, and it takes all of us and we really have to all speak up and actually speak up. I mean, just think about that song. I'm gonna walk the family through video and I think that should be the team tradition. Family feud, man. Yeah, man. Nobody wins when the family feud. That's a, uh, that's straight off the video from Jay Z. Um, and just basically like an additional throw in J Cole, man, they call had a rough week. One o f my f avorite falls love y ours family too. But j ust i n a t ime l ike t his, we got so much crazy going on. You know what I'm saying? We've been talking about how cr azy i t's 2 0, 20 ye ars. And it seems like it keeps ju st t hrowing haymakers an d. And yo u're l ike,, I thought it was over with and keep getting bod y. A nd so it's times like this, when you really gotta be grateful for what you know, and just, you know, your family, your cou rse, o r yo ur community or en vironment nobody's gon na, w he n we ar e de a ling wi t h on e ano t her and we really got to s ti ck together right now and especially on family and inner circle, because like it or not, you can't love nobody. You can't let y our s elf. Yea h. My, I mean my ki nd of simple, I just sitting here thinking about, you know, everything that' s goin g on and I th ink mine is just simp l y pers evere too. And you add your, you, you add your blank, you know, persevere to happiness, you know, perse vere to f i na ncial freedom person, persevere to equality, persevere to, you k now, wha tever that thing that that is for you, you know, just be willing to persevere to get it. That's all I got. Go get it, man. Back seas on, season, love ag se as on,

Speaker 2 1:14:53

Man. I think, uh, I wanna, I wanna say thank you guys for, for providing your input and your thoughts on during these times. I think it's important for the people to understand that, but they're with them no matter what happens, no matter where you're at, you do have the cubby there with you in order for you to get through these times. It was important for us to just drop something, especially for June, June 10th, man. I just really want to let everybody know to celebrate Juneteenth as much as you can, you know, don't burn nothing. Don't go crazy, but make sure that, you know, our voices are heard as Jay said, and lift every voice and sing to earth[inaudible] so I'm just going to be signing out. Thank you guys for joining the cubby. Love is love fact. Let's talk about.