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Welcome Back to The Cubby!

Breathe, Stretch, Shake...LET'S GET BACK AT IT! Join the Cubby Cast as we reunite with one another. Good times and better conversation. 

Have you ever had a chance to look back on a necessary break and realize it was exactly what you needed? We have... and now we are excited to bring our experiences back to the culture. Stay tuned in and join us in this episode - Hiddy, Hiddy Hoe [Mandatory Hiatus].

If you didn't know why The Cubby was founded before, you do now. Enjoy!

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Speaker 1

Man. Why? Why are we doing this now? Yo bro. What's

Speaker 2

Up with everybody nowadays bro?

Speaker 1

. is just going on, man.

Speaker 3

I ain't do nothing, man.

Speaker 2

What I do, I don't ever do nothing. You know that

Speaker 3

What I do, just give me an example. Wow.

Speaker 2

What did I say? Right after that? I said, yo, I could be wrong. I'm not sure. Like got to do. Li ke I can't be up on everybody's business.

Speaker 3

Come on, stop that. Stop that don't do that.

Speaker 2

Don't do that. Don't fall into that game. Don't do that bro. Not cheat. I expected of others.

Speaker 3

All right, come on.

Speaker 2

Do not do that, sir.

Speaker 3

All right. He could have just let him say he probably would been it.

Speaker 2

I said, what did I say? I said, yo, because you know what I mean? People got to do. So I'm like, yo, I don't think, I think I'm pretty sure w hat G said. He wasn't coming. C ause he got to do. He's been really busy, but I could be wrong. So I don't know. How was that? A defensive

Speaker 3

Stance.

Speaker 2

Come on, man. You're not going to tell me what not to say. I don't work. I don't know how to do that. you talking about the door lo ck.

Speaker 3

. I didn't expect that.

Speaker 2

I don't expect nothing from nobody bro. That's that's my problem. That is my mother. problem.

Speaker 3

That's it. Isn't it.

Speaker 2

I need to expect more people. Yo Jay, hold up. You got me caught in. Uh, you got me. You caught me J ay.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I thought it was six 30 until I looked up.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 2

And these are going to be testing out.

Speaker 3

Let me know if it's a little cold in here. Cause you know, I dunno how temperature works.

Speaker 1

Can I say he tired? He won't do it tomorrow. That's what he said. Give another 20. You got a warm

Speaker 4

Asking them.

Speaker 5

Hold on. He can't hear you. He don't got them. He ain't got the. I don't got the on.

Speaker 6

Great.

Speaker 5

Oh this always, he always do the wrong. Look, look, look at him. Look at h is t hing.

Speaker 6

Look at the snake.

Speaker 4

It ain't cold out there.

Speaker 5

You never know. Now he could hear himself, right?

Speaker 4

Yo. I was saying, um, man,

Speaker 5

Oh man, stop it. I honestly, I jumped in a little late. Come on bro. Y'all doing this right now. I jumped on a little late. I heard I'm about to mute this. Canon bro. There's no way he's saying this right now. What happened?

Speaker 4

I feel like Tyrone got to tell us exactly what's going on because I think he knows more. He's been telling you, I forgot what happened though.

Speaker 5

, you sleepy. What'd you tell him? I said he's sleeping delirious.

Speaker 4

Okay. I just woke up man. t alking r ight down.

Speaker 5

I saw yo it's Friday. You know? You know what happened?

Speaker 6

Nothing. Whole lot of nothing more. Nothing. What the? I don't ever do nothing.

Speaker 5

I don't know what happened. You know what you going to send out blessings for G sound? Isn't this? What? Y'all. Isn't it. So isn't this why we bought the equipment wrong a nd r ight. And that's the reason I s aid, isn't that? Why we bought the equipment?

Speaker 4

Yeah. I thought I was falling in, you know, I didn't, I was going stop anybody, you know? But

Speaker 5

Gannon don't listen, man. Don't come in. Don't come in here. Be insensitive for nothing. All right, don't do that to me. Not to me. It's me. Okay. You'll get it. I know you was in the room. Y'all what'd you think of the Gucci? Gucci Jeezy joint bro.

Speaker 4

And that's always lit dog for black history.

Speaker 5

Break out.

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying? We saw something legendary, something that we could tell our grandchildren, Gucci, Gucci. They did. They brought up the old beef. Shout it out. Detroit. I know you heard that part.

Speaker 5

I might've missed that bar, but I mean, I know Gucci was calling Jeezy and a bunch of times I was like, yo, how much more yo u g oing to be ta ken? crab. Jesus. You got to chat wit h the person. Always chee r for the man.

Speaker 4

Yeah. So I mean, you know, goosey. He worked with the South, he had the bang, bang Jeezy. He had a couple of scratches. You know what I'm saying? To a couple in there that was his personal savory. Not really worth it.

Speaker 5

I was never really big on Gucci. And then after the first open and this is where I was, I was like, Oh this trying to ether, take off, eat the takeover. And I was like, h e's trying to bring it back. Yeah. But why, why, why was Gucci so aggressive is the question. B ecause t he particular reason why Gucci was aggressive,

Speaker 4

Then they get always aggressive weight.

Speaker 5

That's a grown man, bro. I say Southern ar e s ensitive. That's what I say. That's my stance. Sensitive Ti Vo. Yeah man. I understand what happened. Th at w as 15 years ago th ough. Bro. I understand like tried to

Speaker 4

Kill you, bro.

Speaker 5

If you go, if you're going to have the beef, then you shouldn't have done it and be like, yo, if it's either beef or not beef, he did like a real half-step and we in the room, but I'm gonna call you. I was like, yo, if you re, if we really got beef, I'm shooting you on site. If we, if that's the case, if that's the, if that's how I get down. Cause it sounds like that's what Gigi, Gucci wanted. It sound like what you was trying to push Jeezy. Like come on, cr ab. Huh? Se nd t hem to come get me. Tha t mu st've bee n hot though. Y'all seen that alpha fit. That cost 10 b ands. I got 10 out, 10 grand on my outfit. A million dollars worth of jewelry. He killed it that afternoon.

Speaker 2

The, that.

Speaker 5

I'm just saying yo, it sound like he got a lot. He needed therapy. It sounded like Jeezy went to a lot of therapy. Jeezy's Jeezy's I'm working on being healed, but Gucci got a long way to go. Y'all

Speaker 4

You got a long road road, man.

Speaker 5

Gucci married, bro. Jeezy engage and Jeezy on half of Atlanta, his words, he said half of Atlanta. He was like, you talking about jewelry and James, he was like, I don't even wear that. I don't half of Atlanta, my guy,

Speaker 2

I don't believe he said that he was on leave. He sat

Speaker 5

Down and all. So Canon the question is you trying to record

Speaker 2

It now? You're not trying to record on it.

Speaker 4

I'm, bro. I gotta get in the whip at uh, 20 minutes.

Speaker 5

Jay, do you hear him consistently? Yeah, he sounds

Speaker 4

Great to me.

Speaker 5

I'm going to Catalina. He's

Speaker 4

Out at like eight. We already got, we already got the headphones on.

Speaker 2

I already got the headphones on you. Right? You right you right.[inaudible]

Speaker 5

Can it be going to need a mix for the intro? Borrow some more.

Speaker 4

She listens to these days.

Speaker 5

Reasons I'm bumping reasons stuff for Greece,

Speaker 4

Huh?

Speaker 5

With TDE. Um, joined the Lucas. I saw from what? Sophomore album. He got some heat.

Speaker 4

I heard though that

Speaker 5

His son on the cover of it. I like this first joint better. I like ADHD. I was mad when I had some heat on it.

Speaker 4

You didn't really hear about the second

Speaker 5

Kind of Sophomore slump kind of feel to it. Can I can ask you a question. Can I start the episode? I thought we started

Speaker 4

The

Speaker 5

Podcast.

Speaker 7

What's y'all talking about man.

Speaker 5

We talking about the new, the latest and greatest talking about the latest and greatest hip hop basketball. What does that even mean? Who's high rain now. Who here? you ain't who ain't. So you saw that, man. Actually, it was funny. You liked it. Yo u g o t t o c heck it out, bro. You know that, you know the title Ca non, you know what it's called?

Speaker 4

Now?

Speaker 5

It should have been what it's called zero. Given it sounded like a title that, uh, I really resonate with. I'm be

Speaker 4

Honest with you. You can see that

Speaker 5

Sound like a shot, bro. I sound like a mean old mom shot. And

Speaker 4

I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 5

But anyway man, welcome to the cubby guys. Thank y'all for coming out. It's a pleasure to be with you guys. Once again, we've had a lot of time separate, but now we're almost all together. This man's fumbling with the microphone, You know, lost how to behave. Sound better. That way sound traveled up. Thank you all for coming out to the Covey

Speaker 4

In the boot.

Speaker 5

don't even want me to do t he[ inaudible] don't know how to act. No m a y our intro sla sh. I think that's a p e rfect segue into what is a m a ndatory hiatus and what is no t. And why is it important to take a break? But then when you do come back, don't know how to a ct.

Speaker 4

That's true.

Speaker 5

It's that first day of school you ain't getting no work done without yo what you're wearing be in the hallway all day, all day. Yo, my m an's L ang is that a Mitchell and ness or just a n ess b ro? Y o m ind school w as crazy. Anyway. Yo, this i s your host. Yo T L ou T ila. D o w hat t o d o. H e got t he c up o f gas in the building. Yes sir. JWC is out here b right a nd early. Nice and late. Always h ere. Always. Great. You got another c ast m ember, m an. He's always so far away, but he's always so cool.

Speaker 4

Now, you know, back in Detroit, cold out here. It's so cold, cold. That's how I person, you know,

Speaker 5

Anyway, he got a call of got a call coming in breast cancer. That's your mom, bro. I ain't pressing cancer. Can't ain't going to be the one on breast cancer, bro. You got to do it. There's a lot of beeps.

Speaker 4

I respect.

Speaker 5

I respect ms. Ms. Marlene too much. Y'all bro. Breast cancer, man, respect. I'm in the middle of my intro bro. Respect the elders. That was cold into Dean cannon.

Speaker 4

Oh man. That's cold this week though. That's the weather, but

Speaker 5

I haven't seen the number four on the weather report.

Speaker 4

It was about 36. Oh you gotta have the heating steering wheels out here. That makes sense. Is that, is that new and that come up. Do they make it in the Midwest? You gotta have heated STAM. Y'all got heated car heated on it. You ain't doing it right. You behind

Speaker 5

Car warm up and all that set out 29.

Speaker 4

They grow up that way.

Speaker 5

I heard you rocking, uh, a truck now, Ron, I heard you out here for Whelan. Ooh. What you on now?

Speaker 4

[inaudible]

Speaker 5

I think I remember when you wasn't driving now you got a truck

Speaker 4

Shout out to you

Speaker 5

Survive. So Cal without a whip, man, I respect that salute

Speaker 4

100%. I don't know how you

Speaker 5

Did it, man. Got up and got a law degree with no wheels. Like that's respect. No discreet, no excuses. Yo

Speaker 4

No. I looked up not recommended, not for the faint of heart. Only real from D etroit a ll.

Speaker 5

And dude, do you, can I say the rules? We ain't even get to the rules here. Can I do that for the listeners? No, I know. I know you guys like to

Speaker 2

Connect with us cause it's real conversation. And it's like you're sitting in our living room, heavy, an epi episode that you pay attention to. It's like you're sitting in our living room, but for all of you guys that don't know what the cubby is. The cubby is a platform for not only millennials, but those in the professional space just to come together and it's talk our, understanding what it takes to get you from point a to point B and just kind of living in art, our experiences. I'm sorry, experiences. We got men from all over the country. Obviously. Uh, we have somebody in the legal field and we have somebody in the marketing field. We have somebody in the financial field. Let me have somebody in the sales fam. So please pay attention to us. But if you are here for the cubby, this is probably not your first time. So I'm gonna say the rules, the copy book. First of all, little cubby is the dark. No roasted coffee. Second, one little cubby in whatever you bring. You got to finish third. Wait Jay, you brought anything. I brought a lot. You gotta get a two K game. Anyway. Third ruler. Covey. Is anybody worried about you in the coving? Fourth little cubby is stay on your P's and Q's because you never know having in the cover. I had to do that for them because Fairfield little cubby is the most important rule. You only get three times in the cup. So once those three times is up no C times

Speaker 6

[inaudible]

Speaker 2

Let me ask you a question, man. How do y'all like these sound effects going on right now? I like the sound effects

Speaker 4

May, might need to expand a little bit. You know, we got to start somewhere.

Speaker 2

I think that's good. I think that's good. But the topic of today is you guys know what the topic of today is talking about holes or something like that.[inaudible], bro, like going to the zoo.[ inaudible] P olk high school.

Speaker 4

Crazy.

Speaker 2

I want to know about Jose what'd you want to know ma NA that's what we came here for. Ain't nobody say that saying that every single time you went here saying how the holes ain't that? What are we doing? No, it's Teddy. Eddie owes. No man. The

Speaker 4

Topic of the day

Speaker 2

Today is hi. It's Heidi. Ho man,

Speaker 5

Here we go.

Speaker 4

You know,

Speaker 5

I heard it before it was in a cartoon. It wasn't a constant cold always want to say something extra. Y ou e ver try to stay warm. That's a c ool re mark.

Speaker 4

No,

Speaker 5

Uh, it's called Heidi. Heidi. Hope the importance of taking a mandatory hiatus. And what is that? What is the stigma associated with taking a break? Can we realistically say that a braking action is supported in our society is going ghost on life necessary. So I'm gonna ask my man cannon. I'm curious. Cause he done took a plane and left. So if that ain't no mandatory break. I dunno. How do you feel about taking a step back away from not only the pressures that we deal with as not only black men in our society, but men in general. And is there a stigma associated with that break when or if you decide to come back?

Speaker 4

Well, I mean, I feel like there's different levels for the breaks, right? And in general, everybody thinks brake, whether you in school, you take a break, you know, you get the break on the weekend, you know, get professional athletes or whoever people do entertainer. They take a break from touring off season. It's always these breaks even when you're working out and take a break. So your muscles can recharge and get stronger. So basically you always got to take a break, but as you can come back in and be back better where it says reevaluate, see the work areas would pick up. And so I feel like in that, in that sense, the break is cool. However, some of my really ever wants to go sit in on them when they need you. That's going to really come down to it's like if somebody needs you now, you can't, I'm taking a break right now. You got to take a break when a job is done for the most part.

Speaker 5

Yeah. But Canon sometimes when you're taking that break and I'm going to interrupt a little bit, sometimes taking that break is for you to unplug. So if you do make it and say, if you communicate that break to others and then they do respond to you, what is your feedback to those that are unwilling to accept your boundary?

Speaker 4

You don't say you got to do the best to use the end of the day. If you're not a, do you want me to take a break? You can be at your best and be at your feet and you may need to do that. Now everyone has different levels where they're able to work and perform. But especially as a black man or minority or whatever, that I mentioned, the mental impact that you'd be able to perform and do what you got to do at the end of the day.

Speaker 5

That's so true. Yeah. I totally agree with you. I feel like it's, it's like with anything, like nobody works out for an hour straight. You gotta take breaks. You gotta take breaks in between 24 hours straight. Do you know what I mean? At the end of the day, if you do it, you'll break down. Nobody drives a car for X amount of time, without at least stopping to get gas. Like that's just, that's actually the that's actually the recipe for success. You got to take little intermittent breaks where necessary. Cause there's no way you can go to distance without breaking down. I think breaks absolutely necessary. But to the point, I think more times than not, especially among men, it's kind of like a either it's like ego or what? Just so competitive. It's like sometimes breaks are frowned upon.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Matt[inaudible]

Speaker 5

Team, no sleep.

Speaker 4

I was asleep. I'm not sleeping. I'm working on her dreams, sleeping on the bed and you got to take naps.

Speaker 5

Unsolicited naps. No, but honestly man, I'm one of those guys that just stay up. I don't even be doing, but sleep to me. I've always felt like it was a waste of time. And I don't know why I don't.

Speaker 4

That's a great use of time.

Speaker 5

I don't know who put this in my head, but I think throughout my life and my experiences and I know a couple of our listeners could probably really empathize with this set, this, uh, stigma. We think that rest is allowing us not to move forward. But in the contrary, especially because us, we took a little break. Let's be honest. Yeah. We took a little break, you know, left, you see what I'm saying? They had to go take care of their business. And as brothers, we all know whatever business you need to take care of. You take care of that. And then we'll always be here to support whatever dream that you have, man. But the image that it presents, let's just say to the world internally, externally, it says though you're off the mat off the grid. Like have y'all ever took a break from Instagram?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that'll do that. You gotta do that. Is that like mandatory

Speaker 5

Instagram given

Speaker 4

Us that sometimes we can get into that rabbit hole.

Speaker 5

You shake rabbit hole where you press one and just scroll up

Speaker 4

On a page full of people. You don't even know. You know what I'm saying? You just, you just deep in it now, but you got to take a break. Like I gotta readjust. And I'm wondering all the time are people always on their phones, always popping it open. The first thing you do when you wake up, first thing you're doing. When you go to the bathroom shower, get it gets worse before you go to sleep. You know what I'm saying? Situations like that. Lot of people say they take a step back because this is taking a lot of time. And so that I actually want to do so let me take a break on stuff. I mean, today's point you always taking a break and an area of your life sacrificing something so that you can do something else. Right? Take that break from work or take that break from a task so that you can get back to working on your mental health. And self-care, that's a great day.

Speaker 5

It's a great point. Especially with mental health. That's a great poor, my mental health.

Speaker 4

Take a break on the day, take a break on the day. So you can get some rest right after you done with that. You know, you gonna be back the next night, but you got to do all this stuff in before. So it's always a continuous cycle for a lot of different activities.

Speaker 5

Jay, how do you feel about when you do take a break and others come back up to you and they ask you, Hey man, where you been at, bro? You've been off the map. Does that bother you as an individual? Or is this something that you praise as saying, okay, I was missed, Oh, you took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna say, I don't actually have to be finishing my sandwich, but what's the saying like, uh, like absence makes the heart grow fonder. So at the end of the day, if we'll put facts on that, bro, God, there we go, baby. Um, at the end of the day, like if you do have that separation, it does create a little curiosity. Like yo, what have they been? What have they been up to? What has changed in their lives? You know what I mean? And then it's just like, Oh, well this happened, this happened X got a car, X got engaged, X got this X, got a bike. You know what I'm saying? It's like a lot of people I got engaged. Maybe, you know what I mean? Like a month ago, what the happened? S ee, keep up first of all, congratulations. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Let me just say that as a real n ickel comment. Thank you. Thank you, man.

Speaker 4

So I appreciate that. I

Speaker 5

Can appreciate that. So back to these hoes, so Heidi, that's the first one. I know what I'm saying, but in all of that, if that that little space of like absence or even just like a little breathe, even like you talk about getting on the stage, he was like just like a little pregnant pause and sometimes just what you need to get that message across. Nah, nah, not at this stage bro. Nope, bro. Can agree with that. You don't mean you don't take pauses on stage. You can't stop going.

Speaker 4

Boom.

Speaker 5

Pregnant, pause. Not, not going on stage. I don't agree. I don't agree. What don't you agree with? What's going on on stage. I understand every other aspect that you're talking about, but taking a break so that you're missed and or that pregnant pause where you can reset. I get that. What we're talking about stage now the stage is such an outlet. If you do take a break, life creeps up on you because now there is no outlet. The part of going up on stage is for you to express that out. Then once you stop expressing that outlet, fear creeps into your mind. You start to become a little bit more self aware into terms of what you need to do. A lot of happens, man. H mm. S o I cannot agree with the whole aspect of the stage aspect, but everything else, I get you bro. A hundred percent I was talking about on stage.

Speaker 4

What does a pregnant pause is like planning, you know, intentional,

Speaker 5

But the stage

Speaker 4

To speak in breath.

Speaker 5

That's definitely a pause and timing is everything.

Speaker 4

So like a pause from the stage or you pause and just start reflecting on life and why you're in the middle of something else.

Speaker 2

Yeah. You can't, you can't, if you really want to be good and you really want to be places where, uh, you have great perspective taking a break from the stage for an extended period of time. So for instance, this whole quarantine thing, I can tell how it really up comedians, but in the same vein, I can see how creative comedians are because now you get a lot of the online sort of experience. Like you go on zoom and there could be one comedian t here like 30 people and he'll entertain those 30 people for X amount of time. And it's a new skill that has been developed, but nothing is going to take place of sitting in front of a person, having them interact with what you're saying. But I digress. I don't mean take it away. T here's no substitution for that. N o, there's no substitution for going r oll b acks. P erfect.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 2

You're not, you're not going to expand on that. I mean, I came to talk about the host, first of all right, Heidi, Heidi, right up my. So, okay. Let me ask you this question just in the, the professional space cause we are in the United States of America and I want to shout out just the election, not necessarily the results because we can get into that, but just the mirror aspect of how democracy really showed its face in the 2020 election. So I just really want to make sure I put some, some kudos up on everyone that did vote. And if you didn't vote,

Speaker 4

Okay,

Speaker 2

Hopefully you like, but as polar, as we were in 2016 and as divided that we weren't 2016 and 2020, it was just a representation of how divided this place is. But once again, I digress. That's another episode, episode, episode, more or less, but Canada, let me ask you this question in terms of, cause we always go on three different marks, especially here in the cubby. We know the rules, but we really try to talk about the full aspect of what a man is and the full aspect of what a woman is and just a professional in general, but just professionally speaking in other countries, work is second to a personal family foundation. When did America change that narrative? Or was that always the narrative of it?

Speaker 4

I mean, I don't know if that maybe it's always been in there, you know? Cause a lot of things haven't really changed. I mean, you look at other countries where they take a lot of breaks. They uh, so they, they take nap during the day or certain days of the week. They don't have to go to work. America does kind of a grinded out kind of place you work are the harder you work, the better off you are. And so if you've taken a break, sometimes it's looked at as well. You're not looking forward to though because there's the grind and you get it type of conflict.

Speaker 5

Capitalism. Capitalism is

Speaker 4

Only the strong survive and you know, that'd be somebody at the bottom, but it'd be,

Speaker 5

You want it? You wanna put facts on that, but say it, say that one more time. Somebody's gotta be aware.

Speaker 4

That'd be smile on the bottom for the smile on top.

Speaker 5

Seriously.

Speaker 4

The only way it works, that's the only way near the top.

Speaker 5

All right. I just wanted to make sure I heard you correctly. Jay, what do you think about that in terms of this country and their viewpoint on a break? Uh, things that take away from the bottom dollar. So whenever I think about America, I think about how young we are as a country, right? 17, 1776. Doesn't look like now. So I'm always like yo at the end of the day, I think of America like a young teenager with a lot of energy. It just like, yo, I gotta prove a point where the best country I'm America, America, America. So America masturbates probably I wouldn't. You saw Donald Trump.[inaudible]. Do we just go? I say and you say something about Donald Trump, you missed it. You missed the meme. Y ou k now, he'd be jerking off ghost P eter macho, man. I digress. I'm g onna send y'all. I'm gonna send you out to me. I g ot t o get a n Instagram.

Speaker 4

No, I was thinking about this the other day about this got different realities t hat w as going on Instagram based on your t imeline.

Speaker 5

Talk about it.

Speaker 4

Timeline is all personal to you. I mean, you know that you talking about that w ould h ave never came up o n m y t imeline.

Speaker 5

You definitely saw it. I, I have not seen Donald Trump. That's a fact for me listening. Go ahead bro. Go ahead. Anyway. I just want to make a point anyway. I didn't see my Donald Trump massive and you brought up jerking off. So like I was saying, it's just a young country that feels like it has so much to prove. So that's why it feels like brakes are so taboo because it's like, yo, if you taking breaks, are you really going for yours? You know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's just like an American stigma where it's just, you feel compelled to compete and constantly have to push toward competing with other people in your circle. And at the end of the day, nobody don't really, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2

Everyone gives zero. Nobody cares all for show, big entertainment game. Everybody is entertaining. I said this the other day, I think I was speaking to the woman that I asked you to hang up on. I said, yo, like, how would you describe Donald Trump on the television to a child? She said, I don't know. I would say, first of all, he's an actor and he's acting and he's entertaining us. That's what politics is. It's entertainment, professional wrestling.

Speaker 4

There. We'll talk about that. Politics as usual, you just got to make them feel good. You know, it's all about making somebody feel, you know, you don't they'll buy it and it looks if you squint not a one I need just says, it's going to be all right. We just got a whole hand. And then you feel better than Donald Trump was basically like, it. Get in line, stand down, all that. So

Speaker 2

I'm not going to lie to you. I honestly feel as though Donald Trump was a covert blessing to this country and put facts on it. And the reason why I say that is because you have to tear down before you rebuild. And what Donald Trump has showed us is that our country is still the same country that we had back in 1770 somebody factors check for me, 1772,

Speaker 4

[inaudible]

Speaker 2

The 1770s, right? He showed us that we didn't grow as far as we do. Now. There's some things that we have the advantage of one technology too. We have things that we're able to do that do not suppress our thoughts, fields needs and how we contribute to our families. But at the end of the day, the viewpoint of this country has always been those on the bottom,

Speaker 4

Held

Speaker 2

Up those on the top. Who's one facts on that.

Speaker 4

So what do you think, do you think that white people just found out more about it because black people didn't learn none. Say that, say that one more time. You think white people just learn because black people didn't learn anything about during this Trump campaign?

Speaker 2

I think actually, yeah. I would say that I think more of

Speaker 4

Why people still think the same way or what

Speaker 2

I think our country in total still thinks the same way. I still think black people still think the same way. I still think my people still think the way I still think, uh, Spanish people still say, think the way, same way. I'm not supposed to say Spanish things. Don't say Latino, Latino, or Hispanic, Latino, Hispanic. I think we all think the same way. And that is the issue. So when other countries I know we are speaking about other countries and taking a break. So when other countries look at us, they're like,, y'all ain't even C anon. You went to South Africa and I'm, I'm assuming that was a great experience. And just the vibe, the vibe was,

Speaker 3

Uh, it was everything was there, but I mean, just being in a place, surrounded by everybody being black leadership lead teachers grew up brochures like everybody top to bottom white minority. It was crazy in a big city.

Speaker 2

Yeah. That just sounds like you for you, to me. You know what I mean? But that's because I'm biased because of my,

Speaker 3

The actors or the commercials,

Speaker 2

Black excellence. What is that? What is black excellence? Excellence. Why isn't it just excellence? I'm sorry guys. I had, I had to do it. Nah,

Speaker 3

Because it's separate

Speaker 2

Black is better, but separate doesn't eat separate. Doesn't equate to equal. I'm not supposed to use it equate an equal, but you get the. I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no it does.

Speaker 2

I think that's an opinion. All right. So another quick question for you guys, Jay, I'm going to toss this out to you. Cause I know we did speak about just the difference in terms of how the world views taking a break and how society views taking a break. We also talked about the difference of us just as men sitting here and saying, I'm going to take a break, not only from Instagram, but things that we need to do to rejuvenate. He said that. Correct. So my major question to you guys as just more on a social level, you guys know what it's a battle is, right? Yes. Coming from the neighborhoods that you guys came from, did you always have the opinion that a sabbatical was more of a rich man's luxury? Did you ever feel that you can just take a break from work to we group or take care of your mental health? Jamie, I'm going to kick it to you. Um, um, great question. I've never, I've only heard about a sabbatical in passing. I didn't really know what it was. Cause I've always one time I heard about it. I thought it was, Oh, go to Europe and do research or write a paper about your experience. So I was like, Oh, you just go somewhere and write an essay. Cool. Um, I just never really thought about that as something that, uh, that black people or people of color did. I just felt like that was more of a privileged, which is probably the accurate word. It's more of a, you could do that from a place of privilege because while you're on a sabbatical, how a bills getting paid Howard's things getting done. I feel like nobody's paying to do a sabbatical. Yeah. So I work. Oh, you paid from your job to take off. I didn't know. That's how it worked. Oh, you know, that's why we're here.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 2

You know, any people that have done sabbaticals? Yes. I know a few people actually black. No, not a single black person. No. Wow.

Speaker 3

What about you, Ken? How do you feel about sabbaticals? Uh, like I said earlier, man articles is just sometimes like it's mine, right? All about a mile. Right? You sacrifice one thing so that you can get to the other.

Speaker 5

Uh, that's a, that's a great point for all our listeners that don't know Ken is on the move OTM. He's on, he's on the move. So it's not you, uh, it's not your car. It's not anything in your house. It's just that Canon is on the moon. But it was very important for us to get Canon on him because this is a very important topic for him to talk about being that he is a law student, graduate passes bar. He is certified lawyer. I would probably say out of all of us, I think he knows how to manage his time. More than most of us. Because the, the uphill climb that

Speaker 3

You had to endure,

Speaker 5

You had to have some sort of break or put yourself in a place where you can sit back and go back into, is that something of an accurate statement, Kenny?

Speaker 3

I mean, I would say it's accurate and you gotta be able to just juggle a lot of things, different, different mindsets, the different places, different times. Um, and you always on the move, man, you gotta have a calendar. You know about that though, man, we talked about the calendar calendar, our calendar.

Speaker 5

If you even talk to me and you make any sort of inference to us doing something, tell me Tyrone, put it on the calendar. Because if you don't tell me that, I'll be honest with you probably won't happen. I'm going to ask you, for instance, if you say, are we going to meet at a certain time to do something? Let's just say on a Friday. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know you showing up. And then you say, I don't know if it's not on the calendar. We both don't know. That's just how I figured it out in mine, personal opinion. But thank you Canada for that, man. That's huge. I think when we're talking about sabbaticals, it's important for everybody to know that it's there for us to utilize when we have it in Jamie, please look up sabbaticals, bro. Ah, I'm actually, I feel like I'm on a sabbatical now. What do you mean expand on that bro? Since, so I wasn't, I wasn't, I'm not working at this current point in time and I feel like it's a very healthy therapeutic break being, this is the first break I've had since like five, six, seven years ago. So I think I'm going to say like, like everybody I've been talking to take the rest of the year off, nice sabbatical minus the paper and a paycheck and just kinda reset recharge Heidi, ho Heidi, Heidi.

Speaker 3

Sometimes that's good to see. Okay. Well, do I want to go next? I want to, how do I want to read re attack and reapproach? You know, professors do it all the time, but they generally come back with some more information. You know, if there's a bad, they gain knowledge about something and now they bringing it back to where they can leave, you know, do they stop it?

Speaker 5

Yeah. And as I mentioned, man, it's something for, this is some knowledge for those that's out there that feel as though your job on support. That's about uncle closed mouths. Don't get fed. I'm gonna put facts on that. A closed mouth just does not get fed wrong. Just it's not a thing that's like literally impossible. Like unless you got a straw,

Speaker 3

But your mouth is closed though. Got to open

Speaker 5

That. Still got to open that up. It's just a fact, man. I'm just, I'm just letting you guys know that, but the transition not so quickly, but to be a little bit more conscious, we did speak on or we tapped on a few things, but we're basically talking about our mental health and how we are as men a nd our mental health and the stigma behind explaining well how our mental health impacts us. So Ken, let me ask you this question, man. First of all, how i s your mental health,

Speaker 3

The mental health. Isn't a great place. You know, our mental health is active though. You know what I'm saying? It's vigilant, vigilant, always trying to save guard and make sure that in itself, in a position to stay healthy because you know, things can happen and you get knocked off, knocked off the square. So I say mental health is in a great place.

Speaker 5

So how does that positive mental health impact your relationships? Not only with your girl, your family, how was that impacting you? And Jay, I'm gonna ask you because you're in a new endeavor. So with this new Headspace that you're in, can you honestly say it's been better for your relationship and if it has not won, it's been very, very, very good. And one of the main reasons is because transitioning, essentially we went from swapping out roles. It was like, you know, at the point, at one point I was working, she wasn't working and now we essentially freaky Friday. Now I'm working. She's not. And to me, that's exactly what we, we just needed a change in position just to switch it up because now we can appreciate things from each other's perspective. So now I understand what it's like to be in her shoes. And now she understands what it feels like to be in my shoes. And I think to me, the ultimate purpose of the ultimate way to achieve enlightenment is to experience things. So now that she went from, um, so now that we're kind of switch up these roles, I think for me, I've learned so many things and now I actually get a chance to reset recharge rebuild. So that this way, when I do come back, I'm coming back even more stronger, kind of to the point you were saying Canon about a sabbatical, like you come back more informed, more learned, understanding things from a different perspective. Like there's the only way to do that is to actually go out and be open to the, to the messages out there. You know what I'm saying? So I think that that's yes, and my mental health is great shape.

Speaker 2

Happy for your brother. Me too. It's been a long time coming, bro. I'm happy for your brother. I can see the difference in just approach and behavior. You know what I'm saying? Like I've seen the difference in how you communicate. I've seen the difference in how you approach different things. So I think this little sabbatical is doing praise for you. I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I appreciate that. Heavenly, heavenly, a. Just smile from ear lobe to Nipsey. No. Nice smile, bro. It looked like you had 240, 70 who the got 247 since y ou're the host. I need t hat. I f eel like it's imperative. We ask y ou h ow's your mental health? My brother, my mental health has increased in the last four months. I can honestly say i t to be perfectly honest with you. I think at certain points in time, I was pushing myself through a brick wall and I told this to everybody that I've come in contact with. I just needed a break, man. I needed to reset. I needed to recharge. I needed to take a step away and work on the little things, the routine getting up in the morning, t he making breakfast, the meditating, the relaxing to washing my. You see what I'm saying? Like I needed those things in order for me to take on other things on my plate. So for so long, I had so much other things on my plate. I came last who, and I'm a person that can do all things, but what is doing all things, preparing yourself to do it because you could be in a room and you can get the work done. But then when everybody leaves, they go to sleep well and you were chilling, not even chilling, sweating, because now you have to maintain that level of excellence, right? That you put out there. So my mental health, I would say has quadrupled in the last four months I went, got a little doctor's note, told him like, Hey man, I'm suffering from anxiety. And I believe I have symptoms of depression. Very simple process. I'll be honest with you. I just sat down and I was honest with them. I was just like, y'all just need a break. Just give me like four weeks, bro. Let me set my time back a little bit like with daylight savings and let me come back a little stronger. He said, all right, go ahead and fill out this paperwork. Make sure you do this. I was like, it's that easy? That's crazy. I was like, yeah man, I did this last week. I was like, the s ystem set up like t his as a grown man, as a black man, I feel like I always had to put a lot of stuff on my s houlders. I had to put the world on my shoulders. I had to put not only the world, but the entire universe can. And K ate, can you empathize with

Speaker 8

Absolutely. I mean, you know, y'all y'all know the struggle I had that, you know, going to school. No, no real transportation at all. And you know, being away from home, man, everything that's coming the world right in everyday life. And I feel like when I got that awareness, I need to be healthy. Your body, you know, the same way that we think about our physical health. It's the way that I think about my mental health. It's not two separate places. It's all within the same body and you just gotta work on it the same way. It's not like you don't

Speaker 2

Um, I'm a, I'm a put facts on that for you, Kenny.

Speaker 8

Yeah. You just pray it up like a muster, right? What's the physical health. Why? Okay. Why did you work out wanting to run? I need eat better. I need to feed my body retrained better. Same thing for your brain. Really your mind, you know, mitzvah and the mind will, do you know what you think? Thinking on a daily basis, taking things in and processing because believe it or not, man, that has more of a effect. I mean, that's, that's definitely where I'm at. Man. I'm reading this book right now. It's uh, uh, uh, breaking the habit of being yourself. I'm breaking the habit of being yourself, but just talking about the way that your mind controls everything from your body, it's the beginning and end of what you can accomplish and what you can find it. So

Speaker 2

What was that about

Speaker 8

Doctor dr. Joe Manasseh?

Speaker 2

I told you, I thought I was going to say dr. Joe buttons. Is that good?

Speaker 8

I haven't heard it pronounced. I just didn't read.

Speaker 2

Gotcha. First of all, man, I'm like a hundred percent happy for you. I'm 130% happy for you. I couldn't be more happy for you, but what I'm more happy about is that you have to understand and have that right. And we've grown into certain places and going backwards. Isn't the thing I heard somewhere. Somebody told me a long, long, long time ago. No, no, no, no, no, no. Time ago they told me onward and upward. And if you embody that, I think you will be okay. So I think at this point in time, man, I think I th I think it's

Speaker 5

Important for us to, to transition into facts. Man, got a chance to listen into facts because facts as part of our daily life.

Speaker 8

[inaudible],

Speaker 5

I'm sorry. I'm just, I just liked it. I just liked the song. Sorry. One fact I really have on this and excuse cannon, man. Um, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna let you know the facts before we get in. I know you move it around, but I'm gonna let you know the facts as we get in, when you're building a personal brand. The worst thing you could do is take an extended break. Momentum is everything

Speaker 8

You gotta keep going.

Speaker 5

That's it? That's it. That's a hundred percent of fat. Don't be complacent, man. Complacency is death, man. Big facts. You can acknowledge, you know what I mean? You could celebrate, but don't you ever, ever become complacent ever. So Jay, what what'd you what'd you think about that? I totally agree. I mean, when it comes to building a brand, it's like, like we always talk about like the train train got to keep moving the train, got to keep on going, because always say that. Yeah. Cause at the end of the day, people are watching the train. They waiting for the train. They like, Oh the train just left, but it will be back. You know what I'm saying? Cause they, they rely on that train. And I think that's a totally true statement. I mean, we from New York. So you know, when that training running, when that training running and he called it in the mother, if you go cold, you'd be upset. Sometimes you underground. Sometimes you outside in the cold and you late and you late might get fired. Now, now you're just in a whole world of trouble. So I mean, if you building up a brand, it's like, especially in the early stages you had, you gotta, you gotta know like, yo, this is going to be for the long haul, like at least another two year stint of like, yo go no brakes. So let me ask you this question though, your personal brand and the reason why I said personal brand, because we all are a brand, right? And when you represent something towards somebody else and you give that, um, capability to others, that breaking momentum can have people judge you. It really can because now they're not getting what they expect. They expect. So Canon has that ever happened to you where you need to take a break from your personal brand, but it has hindered you from certain relationships in your life.

Speaker 8

Yeah. I mean being somebody who can do so many things for so much energy into something that you can't, it's kind of hard to be everywhere or be everyone be everything to everyone. So that's kind of where you got to take a break and the volleyball, keeping that balance back, you got to balance work, play family, because there's only one of you.

Speaker 2

I would, I would, I would, I would definitely agree with that man. Like I had, uh, I had a, I had a huge thing about taking a break from things. And that's only because I feel as though the momentum stops and then people want to with you. That was a fear of mine. And that led to a lot of anxious moments a nd anxious nuts. If I stopped doing this, if I s topped posting or if I stop being all things to all people, how is everyone going to look at me now T failed o r n ot T don't fail 1 0, never f ail a day in his life. you talk back T fail. Don't fail T out here in these streets, you know what they call me? Don't you T Lou do what to do. I can't call myself that and his ain't get done. That makes sense to you. Not at all. It don't make sense, but I had to realize y ou g ot a nd take a break. The break is going to have you set up from what CT was saying, w here C anon was saying, i ts break is going to set you up for success. I t's t he fact on that? Can I put i t b ack? Yes, s ir. F at, hold on, hold on, Kenny. We can't hear you, bro. We can't hear you bro. Say, say that one more time by t hem.

Speaker 8

You got to pour back into yourself and the break is as long as you haven't sent it, right?

Speaker 2

What do you mean by intention?

Speaker 8

Well, like as long as you know how long your break is going to be, right? It's not an indefinite break necessarily. You get back to it or, you know, it's like you, I'm taking a break and fill out X, but not having an end date because you know, you got to get back to it. Especially if you work in for right, you can have intermittent breaks. There's something that's going to be forever. Right? People get married forever. But a break in that instance would be something like, you know, I just need some time with the fellows. I need to sign with the ladies or I just need some time to do my board or something like that. It doesn't have to be because you know, you got to come back, you don't come back stronger and better. Don't gotta be forever.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I do that all the time. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm gonna put facts on that.

Speaker 8

I know that.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Breaking me in anything and then people. But I think that's the part that that's the perception. If you take a break, people like, Oh man, it's like, they don't expect

Speaker 5

This person or they don't expect you to come back. Um, and that's kind of like the fear, like, Aw, that's why people don't like other people taking breaks. But I think

Speaker 8

That's probably what it was. Yeah.

Speaker 5

Words matter, bro.

Speaker 8

Lives matter. Black lives matter. Black lives matter

Speaker 5

And words matter. Two things can be the same. Two things can be true. Two things.

Speaker 6

Two

Speaker 5

Things can be the same. Right? Cannon

Speaker 8

Two things can be the same. Right?

Speaker 5

That's a fact we can put facts on. That's a big fact, Another fact that I had, and I wanted to bring to the table for you guys, just speaking about breaks and other people coming to you for certain things, I had this big people. I have the big problem with people. If I had all the answers you wanted, ask me everything that you may not. The reason why you're asking me this question is because you may or may not think that I have the answers.

Speaker 8

Right, right.

Speaker 5

Or they want to know the answer, but you want to ask me unless you thought I either had the answer or I didn't have the answer for you to go look for the. A whole nother topic. Cause I feel like it's 20, 20. What does you mean? Don't be asking questions. Don't ask questions. I feel, Oh, here's my thoughts, Ken. And hear me on this. I feel like Canada's going to grow[inaudible] because at the end of the, with the exception of like feelings and thoughts, like I can't, I don't know what you think. I don't know what you feel. I have to ask you that when it comes to just like facts and information, I think you should be able to at least access the information to have the ability, to know which questions to ask. Because I feel like sometimes people just come with a blank slate layout. How you, how you turn on the PlayStation. I hate that.

Speaker 8

Did you read? I hate that. Did you,

Speaker 5

Did you, how do you make them a Hito did you try Google? How do you get to the post office? You Google it. What time? The post office calls you ain't Google it. It's 20, 20, the noise in the world, b ro. But at the end of the day, if you thought about it, i f, if every time somebody asks you something and you like, did you Google it? Like Google, Google the b ulletins. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, how you feeling today? That's not G oogle-able you know what I m ean? But if there's things that are G oogle, b ro, d on't b e asking me Google a bout d ance.

Speaker 8

That's when you start asking questions

Speaker 5

To the, to a degree most until I'm proven wrong. I can't think of it. You Google bro feelings and thoughts. Like I can't, I can't Google what you thought when or how I'd said something made you feel. So I'm supposed to only ask questions that relate to a feeling or a thought. That's my thoughts. That's my thoughts. That's my feelings. Facts. Cause at the end of the day,

Speaker 2

Bro, we in the information age, yo, we are the first like where'd the first set of people will be able to have like the information in our hands at a speed. That's unfathomable. Like the bro. Think about it. Like dang, I could build a whole car easily. I know how to change my oil and change a tire off of Google. So you YouTube, Google couple is Google-able YouTube. You know what I'm saying? Like information's out there. All you gotta do is know what to ask.

Speaker 3

Just take the temporary.

Speaker 2

Take the time it's out there. Reading is fundamental. I want to say it's fundamental. And I hate when people ask me questions w here I'm like, yo bro, it's in the description. I ain't r eading. Oh my God. L ike the podcast is up. O h the p odcasts up. Where's it at? It says Apple p odcast. Google p odcast. Oh, we're on Pandora. By the way. We're on iHeart radio. U h, all you have to do is say, Hey, Google play the c ubby podcast. And it's g oing t o play the cup. H old, hold on. Hopefully. Okay, good. You know what I mean, technology, man. You g ot t o love it. Technology. Y ou always l istening bro.

Speaker 3

This man.

Speaker 2

Oh dog sign. You can't

Speaker 3

[inaudible]

Speaker 2

I'm like that. Right before we finished sprout treads and Davis, dreads, Davidson, Bron. They got size three Pete, they got three Pete bro. I was about to say it is LA, but he was already in LA VP Crib three peat bro. Three peat. And they got shorter.

Speaker 3

Three-peat two years.

Speaker 2

Two years at what?$7.

Speaker 3

19 million. That's the deal right now. That's crazy bro. Bro,

Speaker 2

Hold up. There was no break. Like you said, you had to take a little LA break.

Speaker 3

We all know that. Take a little break though.

Speaker 2

Hi man. I think this is a perfect transition to go to my favorite section of the p od. C an you know what I call t his section? Love i s

Speaker 3

[inaudible].

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think we get pretty good with these transitions are amazing by the way, bro. Y ou've been practicing. I've been practicing. First of all, thank you for noticing.

Speaker 5

Uh, second of all, you're a godsend. Third of all. I appreciate you, man. I'm gonna have my I'm gonna have my man that's on the move go first. Uh, for those that don't know what the love is. Love section is about because we were on a little hiatus, Heidi, Heidi, the love and love section is basically we get together and we leave off the podcast. But just as love as love statement, man, what is love to you? You know, something positive to give to the people. You know, we've been talking about today and that's what we supposed to do as five black professional men in this society, we're pulled in all different, different directions. So if we could just come together, drink a little bit, smoke a little bit, get a c up of W's i n two K it ain't nothing. You see what I'm saying? But we have to give a love as love statement for the people. It's for the culture like, l ike J esus, h e said on stage the other day, w e doing this f or t he c oach

Speaker 3

For the culture.

Speaker 5

So I'm a, I'm a kick it to cannon. Man. You say you love his love statement as you want to move.

Speaker 3

Yeah, man, I was just saying, get this money, rinse and repeat.

Speaker 5

That's cold it in Detroit.

Speaker 1

I'm practicing,

Speaker 5

Practicing. I mean this first of all[inaudible]

Speaker 1

I did, I did.

Speaker 3

Must've been a mistake.

Speaker 1

[inaudible]

Speaker 5

J was your love is loves David bro. Yo, my love is love statements. And since we told them about rinses and repeats, um, mine is something I said before, but I think it's very fitting to I'm taking breaks. Yo um, you gotta breathe, stretch, shake. Let it go. Let that saying go. And the reason why that's so important is because when you do take that break, sometimes it's all you gotta do is just take a nice deep breath. Like earliest day was working out. We just have our breathing routines. It was just like, all right, get back on the horse and you breathe, stretch. Do what? When stretch means whatever it is to get loose. Let that go get right back to it. So I think a b reathe, stretch shake. Let it go. Shout out to Pinto a nd o ut. A nd Alex slash Pinto, my people down in Atlanta. Shout it out. I posted t hat on t he Instagram a few months ago. So follow through. Y'all not everything.

Speaker 1

[inaudible]

Speaker 5

What's the CST. Mine is always the same and never change it. Comedy is life. Life is comedy is comedy. Like just use those three words. You'll be all right, man. You got to decide to got to decide.

Speaker 2

It's a choice. Just like any relationship you choose to be in this. You got to choose that because you're gonna cry. You're gonna get mad. You're going to have all those other emotions, but you choose to laugh. And if I can be a vessel for you to laugh, I'm cool with it. I ain't, I ain't with you. It's just T T l ittle dude w ith a d ude. So t hat that's that's my love is love statement and I think this i s a great c omeback guys. I think it was something that we did. We had some new items you feel good about? L ove it. Feel good. If u h, if you guys haven't heard, we have a few more episodes that's out right now. U h, we have a t hree-part series. Go check it out, go check it out. It's called. I always have something to do with one of our, our good friends to the podcast. You guys know who was on it? Yes ma'am yes, sir. Ma'am I don't even know where I'm starting to kick t hat Can and driving and I'm over here just doing work. Uh, yeah, go check it out. Act at rock rock, and Robin, I may have screwed that up, but check it out on all platforms. She did a great job. She did a great job. He was speaking about everything, everything, everything I found out a lot about me and how our relationship started. You found out a lot about how she views men, um, and how I view women in that space and just her just being loose and being alive. So if you haven't checked it out already, please go check it out. But I'm going to go ahead and close out the show as always love is love facts. Let's talk about it. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1

[inaudible].