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Realistically, are you able to say my circle projects and enhances the fundamental nature of who I am? Nevertheless, what has it taken for you to cultivate those relationships and has it been worth it? The Fraternity and Sorority life can be different but where would we be, as a culture, without it. As a professional, a citizen, and a partner in society where can this mentality take us? Let's Talk About It!
Join the Cubby Cast as we roll out the red carpet for a few monumental guest
(@Zafir__, @Chad_fest, @Phreedom_reign) of the APHIA Fraternity. We discussed the methods of how we met, where we are today and how the organization has impacted us. Happy Founder's Day to the GOOD Brothers of APHIA.
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Those outside of an organization. Take a look into the inner workings of the life.
Alpha Phi Alpha, the first intercollegiate Greek-letter fraternity established for African American Men, was founded on December 4, 1906 at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York by seven college men who recognized the need for a strong bond of brotherhood among African descendants in this country.
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Girl. I got that. Hi girl, I ain't got that as high as, I don't know the rest of that. Welcome to the govern guys. Thank you all for coming out and listening to a special episode. First of all, happy founders day to the brothers of alpha Phi alpha fraternity incorporated. This is a special episode that you're coming in on at the Covey. We're here not only to celebrate founder's day servants of all, first of all, we shall transcend all, but we had to speak to the people and just let you know what it takes to get from point a to point B. That's what the cubby is all about. Connecting millennials and other professionals in a place where you can be free and you can be yourself. You guys know the Covey rules, and if you don't, you'll hear it in a couple of minutes, but I just want to say personally, thank you guys. And if you do want to get in contact with the cover, you can contact us on Instagram at the cubby cans. You can follow us on Facebook cubby, or you can just email us directly at the cubby. cas@gmail.com. Visit our website. Welcome to the covey.com and we'll be able to get in contact with him and talk to you and discuss a few things. So listen to the podcast. As I talk about what it means to be in a brotherhood with some fine gentlemen that I've known for over a decade, and they're going to give you their perspectives on what a fraternity is and the benefits that they've received. So without further ado, this is your host T Lou due to do and welcome. Welcome to the cup.
Speaker 2[inaudible]
Speaker 3Can you hear me? I can hear you
Speaker 1Clearer then clear eyes for your eyes.
Speaker 3Perfect. Tell me if you, um, if you hear me,
Speaker 1No, I don't hear nothing. I just hear you, bro.
Speaker 3ZAFA is in the building Thursday, Wednesday
Speaker 4Night weekend has just started. I might have to hang up and come back.
Speaker 5I don't know if you could have any upstage, you like that. You know how the freaky, you know how freaking easy
Speaker 4He's got everybody on everybody on the line.
Speaker 5Got we got, we got, uh, you had, and we waiting for who? Who, who we waiting for? I think we went in for Chad,
Speaker 4Jamie coming on through, I'm looking out the window right now.
Speaker 5I'm trying to get Jamie on. Jamie said he couldn't come in the studio, but I'm trying to get them to call in, but that man's a married man now. So I don't know. I don't, I don't question. No married. Man's time. Racial
Speaker 4Wait for the day. They, they, they, they married. He's not married. Just drop the news.
Speaker 5Actually. He's not married yet. That was a very married thing to say. And just, I just thought about that. No, he's not. He's engaged.
Speaker 4You said he's coming. He's coming.
Speaker 5Thanks. So yeah, I think he's trying to come to the studio. Yeah. Y'all should really look at the studio, man. I did this I ain't man.
Speaker 4Yeah. I was just going to say that's what Brock this'll be so much doper. Same room together
Speaker 5Because you know what I'm doing? Sipping on little yak, got a little, uh, got a little medicine and I'm just doing this right.
Speaker 4Shadwick Morgan
Speaker 5Jabber came more like a politician. Did any jagged game on like a politician? What? A chat.
Speaker 4Hey man, I've been, I've been through one. So many of these conference calls. So you know the muscle memory don't go away like that zoom call. We should have done like a zoom call.
Speaker 5No I couldn't. I could have did it. We could do that now, but the reason why I be b etter with the conference call, c ause I'm w ondering, u m, Rayshawn said he was in the car, so I didn't w ant t o make him fumble and like that because if I do zoom, then, u m, I would love to see y'all man, to be perfectly honest with ya. Um, f irst of all, let me say this. Welcome to the cu bby. Welcome to the Co vey g uys. I appreciate yo u c oming out. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4See man, barely appreciate the opportunity to be on your platform. Lowly old me to come from the good old streets of Queens to be here. Now my God, my God, my, there we go. Here. We, what you talking about a year, bro? I got in first. I should buy stock. Now
Speaker 5I'm a, I'm going to be honest with you, Chad. We got, we got a package, uh, out. If you want to buy some shocks and some stairs, some shares. I said stairs, we've got a package.
Speaker 4You
Speaker 5Can definitely hit me on the side. Uh,
Speaker 4So how was y'all day, man? How was y'all everybody's day was good, productive, productive. What, what, what about you child was you do today.. You mean man? You know w hat I'm s aying? That's about it. H old t he money, man. I'm trying to, I'm trying to learn your ways, bro. I'm trying to learn. First of all, I k now h ow t o g ame.
Speaker 5I just want to put one of these on it. I just want to put one down.
Speaker 4What else turned in the episode of fresh Prince? First of all,
Speaker 5I get genuine. Laughs. So let's not do that. The last time I told y'all a joke, your man Rayshawn tried to rip the joke in half. And just because he's in a different state,
Speaker 4First of all, who who's bumping music, who's bumping noses whose bumping music. I told you I was like, yo, I asked her, well, the music wasn't on at that point..
Speaker 5First of all, let me, let me go ahead and start the episode. I'm going to have to start the episode. Well, welcome to the cubby guys. Thank y'all for coming out. This is your host T little T Lou do what to do. If we've got a couple of special guests in the building and we got more than special guests to me, we got lifelong partners post. Uh, we got, we got people that have grown up with me for a long period of time to mature into the person that I am today. Um, I'm going to give them a chance to introduce themselves, but before we do that, you know what we gotta do. We gotta go ahead and do the things that we always do because you know, we gotta, we gotta go ahead and, and start the e pisode. So this is how we normally start the.
Speaker 4You are listening to the cubby.
Speaker 2Hi Ron Lewis.
Speaker 5Thank y'all anyway, man. And y'all got quiet real quick then engine
Speaker 4[inaudible]. So now I'm about to go buy me a mic right now where I can drop it and walk away. Episode of star is born
Speaker 5J ad on the phone and now h e g onna get b olt C had on the phone r ight n ow. H e w ant to get b olt.
Speaker 4You brought me to, you know what I mean? But you know, come on let's for the time being,
Speaker 5Let me let, let me do the intro chat. Let me do the intro. And then, and then
Speaker 4I'm in your world, bro. I'm being a world in your world. It's not so mad. Everybody's magic on a break, bro. First of all,
Speaker 5Welcome to the cubby. Thank you all for coming out. As mentioned, we had a couple of few special guests to me. I definitely said it before, before the intro happening, just to give you guys a great synopsis of who this is and what we are going to do. My name is T T Lou T Lou do what to do. And we got a special guest in the building. I'm just going to go ahead and let them introduce themselves. But before I do that, please let me say to Covey rules. Please let me say it. A couple of rules. So the first rule of the cubby is, is that there are no rules of the Covey. Second rule, let a couple of years, whatever you're doing, you got to finish. Third. A cubby is be yourself. Ain't nobody worried about you in the coming four through little couple of years, stay on your P's and Q's because you never know what happened in the Covey fifth rule, the most important rule. You only get three times in the Cub. And once those three times is out, those three times is up. So I'm going to ask my man, that's been a, the star of the show. Uh, the one that is, uh, a homeowner. Now please introduce yourself. Tell the people where they can find you and tell them a little bit about yourself before we keep going.
Speaker 4Uh, I'm certainly not the star, but um, my name is Charles Morgan for short. That'll just do, um, from native of Queensland, New York on a farm, myself living the DMV area that is Stanford, DC, Maryland, and Virginia, the good old capitalist country. Um, and uh, you know, I, I'm a public health professional by trade, um, into some of a life, my personal life. That's about it. That's all I could give them for the time being.
Speaker 5We're going to go ahead and uh, first of all, thank you Chad. First of all, Chad, I've been telling you this for years. You demand Chad, you the man J ack.
Speaker 4Yeah,
Speaker 5Me. o ut o f here. A ll r ight. Now w e're going to go to my man. Freaky Z. I met, I met, I met this man. I met this man on a quad on campus. We call it Indian. You may not know what it is, what I call i t. I ndian, go ahead and introduce yourself. Tell the people who you are and what you do.
Speaker 4And then quite as well renowned, what's going on world. It's your boys up there straight from Brooklyn, New York. Uh, what can I say about myself? This is my first time on the podcast. So, um, I'm an entrepreneur and, uh,. I'm happy to be here, man. Thank you for having me
Speaker 5That that was short and sweet, man. Thank you. Thank you for following up with that. After the, yeah,
Speaker 4I'm a man. I'm a man of few words. So there you go. There you go.
Speaker 5Now we're going to round it out with the, uh, the big man himself. Uh, the, the most prestigious man that I know, go ahead and introduce yourself to other people where they could find you tell the people a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 4Paul, have you already know boy now? You know, all that, all that. But um, you know, it's just me, me know who I am. So let's just get into it. If we really don't though, we don't know you besides the phone, positive racial, who is, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5Rayshawn is the man. So I told you that Chad, you, the man, but
Speaker 4Exactly. He said there, man, like, come on, man. You know, what do you think, bro? I just want you to get the worldwide acclaim that you deserved, but out the first of the whole, but it's all yours.[inaudible],
Speaker 5That's the only way to cut off Chad, man. Let's be honest. That's the only way to do it. The only way to cut off Jack man. But I don't know if the listeners are paying attention, but just the rapport that we have. Uh, we are frat brothers. Not only are we frat brothers, but we, uh, we spent some time together, not only in the organization, but uh, excelling into who we are within the organization. If that makes sense. Uh, these are people that's really close to me and I wanted to get you guys on the podcast right before December four, uh, to let people know the importance of the date. I don't need the importance of the date, but the importance of the relationship that takes place within a fraternity or a sorority. So what is this episode really called? The episode is called fraternal brotherhood, fraternal, brotherhood. H old on, hold on, hold on. I got something for you.
Speaker 3Yeah, you got to drop them right now. Was that it was that the job you mean? You mean probably not going to get the clearance for that? You mean something like this? You need something like that better. That's more fitting. That's definitely more of a bomb. Drop a bomb, Chad man. But now I'm in a critical mode today,
Speaker 5Vibing right now, but anybody that's out there that has any sort of, uh, frat brothers or any sorority sisters together, you guys know what that bond is. So this episode is for you and thank you guys for coming to the cubby. You guys already heard the rule, so you already know what's wrong. It's just conversation. But I wanted to input a quick question to the, to my frat brothers. That means so much to me. So let me, so let me ask you guys this question really quickly and we're waiting for my mans to come as you go, as you guys know that you got do listen a lot. JWC, he's also part of the frat. Um, and if you guys don't know what the frat is about now, just based on the conversation, I'm just gonna say this. I'm just going to say it
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 5That's all I really got to say, man, you know how we do it on an upward all day, every day, but we're waiting for my man, Jay dub deuces. But that man is probably, um, he's held up with the things that he needs to do, but he can come in and come out anytime that he wants to. But let me ask this question, just set the premise of the episode. What is a fraternal or so or sorority relationship and how does one understand the underlining meaning of its value? Are there levels to it? Can you thrive in this society with a relationship that stands separate from a traditional relationship or kin? So I'm going to ask my man freaky Z and the reason why we call him freaky Z, can't tell you that I can't really tell you that
Speaker 3Can't really tell you that. Well, let me ask speakeasy, man,
Speaker 5What's the importance of a bond that steps outside that natural relationship that you get from others?
Speaker 3You know, fraternal
Speaker 4Bond where we have is something that was hardened through a set of experiences that we've shared and that we went through together, that we learned from grew from. And, uh, you know, there's obviously blood, sweat, and tears that, uh, that strengthened a bond more so than it would outside of a, any type of process, really, you know, even when you go into an army and when you go into a fraternity, anything that sort of binds you together as one and teaches you values that at least in our case, our strong values as men, uh, in society, the, in the society that we live in is, uh, is I think the main thing that, uh, strengthened the bond of our brotherhood outside of a traditional friendship, you know, I think there are, there are levels to it. Uh, but at the end of the day, it is what you make it, but much of the time, just like anything else in life, you know, what you put in is what you get out, but the root of that bond and, you know, the, um, uh, the foundation of it is based on, um, you know, the, the fact that we went through, we, first thing we have similar values or the same values in many regards. And then we went through a set of experiences that, uh, you know, um, a lot of learn about each other, know about each other and, uh, also learn certain values that we identified with that we were able to transcend the actual process and the fraternity itself and, uh, carry, carry it over to our personal lives or professional buyers. And so that in itself, the idea that we take these things that we learned with each other, that we didn't learn prior to that point, um, that we were able to use in our personalized and are currently using as we speak, that's something that is invaluable. And I think that's really the foundation of the strength of a fraternal relationship, a proper fraternal relation. At least I can only speak to what we have, um, because I know that it really depends on the person and the vibe and the process and the people and everything else. But that's, that's my take on, on, on that.
Speaker 5Let me ask you this question. Do you think we would be as close without that experience that we had with the, uh, alpha Phi alpha fraternity incorporated?
Speaker 4I personally, no, I don't think so. Well, the beautiful thing about our situation, man, is we come from totally different walks of life, even in, even in school, you know, you tie, you was doing your videography thing, you as the man on campus, creating all these, you know what I mean, crane, all these episodes and being a creative on campus, Chad, you know, had his doctorate then going on his, uh, public health thing going on Rayshawn was doing everything[inaudible]
Speaker 3Ratio. And I still don't know what the.
Speaker 4Great. So I'm doing everything on canvas, you know, running organizations. And, uh, so, you know, I was the president of student government and, uh, you know, doing my own thing and just being, you know, being me. And so we were, some of us were, were closer. Uh, but I don't think that especially, you know, being, uh, cause like we're in similar organizations and we're involved with things together, obviously that's going to bring it together. But I think the beauty of this entire entire I keep calling it, I don't want to call it a process and CTV, but I want to call it a what's the better word for it.
Speaker 3Oh, uh, Oh, Oh,
Speaker 4I guess I'll go with that. The beauty of the process that we went through is the fact that we were brought together based on certain ideals that aren't tangible, you get what I'm saying, they're not tangible, but there's something we identified with. And there's something that we found a commonality with. Um, and we found a kinship in that bond, which is what makes it so beautiful because that fraternalism wasn't there at first. We didn't know each other from Adam. Uh, some of us, some of us knew each other, some of us didn't. And so that, that kinship formed with a certain foundation laid upon it before it, and that kinship and that fellowship and that comradery and that collegiate, uh, attitude and atmosphere was created around a certain set of ideal ideology, a certain, a certain belief and a certain, uh, respect we have for something larger than ourselves. And I think that in any situation where you have that type of a join, that if you will be bond will always be stronger because you're identified with something that's larger than yourself. It's not just a night out on the town. We're not used to grabbing drinks on every Friday. You know, we're not just doing happy hours or with our coworkers to try and send to that because it's based upon something that is larger than ourselves. So, you know, I, I don't think we would have been close, uh, closer, uh, without this. And that's simply because of the nature of how this, this, uh, this process is, which is in and of itself that, you know, everything happens for a reason. And so this is in and of itself, how it was supposed to be. Um, so the, the process brought us together, the ideology, the belief in what we believe in manly deeds, scholarship love for all mankind. And those are just a few of the names. You know, these are the things that bonded us together as a, as men and as what causes us to become brothers.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 5So let me ask them, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pitch the question to Rayshawn man. Cause I know just, just to let the listeners know, um, ratio on the fed and Chad, they're not even in California and this is how strong the bond really goes there on the East coast. And, um, um, I'm, I'm sitting here on the mouth West coast. U h, we had times together. Y eah. Y'all in coal country and like, I don't, I don't even know what snow l ook like. I'm g onna be honest with you. I don't even know w hat snow l ooked like no more. I'm acting like I ain't never been there before, but I don't even know w hat snow l ooks l ike, but I'm g onna pitch the question to Rayshawn. So t hat r atio, I want to ask, I want to ask me, I want to ask ratio, how does he feel about the understanding of what a fraternal bond is and what does he take away from it and the value within it?
Speaker 6What do I feel about what the understanding of a fraternal bond is?
Speaker 5How do you take it based on what, uh, the fair said, what is your take on how a fraternity or either benefits your livelihood or it enhances how you are as a person? What are some things that you can actually attribute to being a part of this fraternal bond with me? Of course.
Speaker 6Right, right. Well, I think, you know, there, you know, I think, I think, you know, the fear definitely said a lot, but the one thing that doesn't make the most, it's like, we're anything, you know, this is really what you make it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I had my personal interests and reasons, you know, upon joining this fraternity and just like, I had my personal reason coming to you all today, you know what I'm saying? Like, and you know, that goes back to, you know, furthermore, the question is just like, you know, we'll be been that or you have even been cool. And, you know, I think that like something, something of common interest is always what creates an energy amongst people, if people come together and things like that. Um, but personally, you know, I'll be honest. Like, I, I, I I've benefited from my relationships within the fraternity way, way further than I actually like anticipated. You know what I mean? Like, Like for example, you know, I'll be completely honest with you, you know, like I think, you know, when I was a young man, you know, for, you know, just reaching goals, you know what I'm saying? Like personally, you know, when I think of networking in an organization is just like, okay, you know, at first your, your mindset may be, you know, well, you know, what, how can I even join it to do something? You know what I mean? Either you want to make something better or you want to use it to your benefit or whatever the case is. Maybe you just want experience from out yourself about like-minded people. You know what I mean? Like, it, there's a lot of different things and reasons why people or people, you know, join, I would say for myself, the first reason why I joined my organization, like, that's the one thing that, especially in undergrad, when I think about my career as an undergraduate, like, you know, you know, how you always kind of like, know what your goals are, but then like you have that voice in the back of your head, you actually have a real voice telling you, like, you know what I'm saying? Or like, you know, I think that, that, that for me, you know, I think for me, you know, alpha was, was that boy, you don't think it was a guy not to say that I wouldn't do anything naturally, but it was always like, you know, okay, cool. Here's what I want to do. This is what I want to do. Because like, I think I'm good at it. And then it's just like, Whoa, you know, that wasn't enough. L ike, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? That we all are, but you know, it's like, it's like you only, you know, sometimes, especially. A nd t hat's w hy, that's why I always say like, you know, y ou only g oing t o think as far as your thought process, you know what I'm saying? But like those around you, y ou k now, w ill see things within you that you may not even have seen in yourself may see things that you're naturally doing. I t's, you're great at, y ou k now, s aid, but you haven't noticed
Speaker 5This person to do that for you. And I, and I'm sorry to cut you off, but I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I got a special guest.
Speaker 6I got a special
Speaker 5Guest that just came in here and he ain't gonna say until I say, a in't going on. F ellows i s going on, boy.[ inaudible] wasn't g onna come through man. But I heard y'all was getting here. I had to, I had to get on man. I was like, yo, I'm pulling myself away from
Speaker 6No doubt
Speaker 5The hood. Ain't said, man. I said, man, I miss y'all. It's good to hear your voice. Now I now back to the question.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 5Thank you. Thank you brother. Appreciate it, man. Appreciate it. A lot of girls are footsteps following the footsteps, but we got to get back to the question I want to know who was that person that saw something inside of you post that you did not see within yourself?
Speaker 6The first version, I'm going to be honest with you. And this is what I mean about surrounding yourself around those. Like before you even realize things like for me, I wasn't EOP student, you know what I'm saying? I came in EOP summer. Oh seven Anthony Hart, uh, before he was even in an alpha, you know, he was my ELP essay. And like, when I tell you, like, you know, had off like, and has showed me the way in so many different facets of life, you know what I'm saying? Like, even before I even knew
Speaker 4What alpha Phi alpha was, you know what I'm saying? I'll never forget being on the podium, you know, and hearing about an alpha probate and then seeing my EOP essay, I was like, Oh, you know, and like I had already, like, that changed a lot because I was just like, you're already, I had already, you know, I had already had those individuals that I looked up to, you know, not necessarily for paternal reasons, but just because like the media definitely. And then, you know, seeing him do his thing, like that necessarily didn't dictate what I wanted to do, but it was just, like I said, like, you know, like-minded individuals. Yeah. That opened a lot of doors for me. And um, yeah, kind of history, I guess
Speaker 5Anthony Mann, Anthony at the Hartford, Ramoni at the Hartford. He's doing big things, man. I think he's, I think he's with a CA uh, he got what, like a hundred million in the bank right now. Probably about a hundred million, I think. But honey, no,
Speaker 4No problem, sir.
Speaker 5Right. You probably got like a hunted hunted hunted 2 million, two to two to 3 million, something like that. Something like that's the freedom that freedom man, but Chad man, I want to, I want to come to you and then I'm going to kick it to JWC is really quickly, uh, thank J D deuces will coming out. But I really want to know from Chad's point of view, uh, Chad, how do you feel about this fraternal bond being that you are, who you are now? How did you being a part of this organization or just a part of this group sitting here today? How did it influence you and what did you walk away from width?
Speaker 4Um, give me a sense of, so I think like 18, 19, you're so impressionable and you know, I'm gonna, at least for me, I'll speak for myself. You know, didn't really have a sense of what it means to be a strong black man. Cause I didn't have those figures in my life. Right. So when I'm a freshman and I see the black party, I see these Susan is black and old gold and they given me a pamphlet that tells me, you know, where to get a hair cut, where to, you know, um, you know, where you get your groceries from, if you need to pick up a little bite or something and all these little s oup[ inaudible] I didn't even know h is levels. I didn't even know[ inaudible] I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 5Yeah. That chopper suit, bro. I ain't even gonna with you, bro. I ain't even gonna with you. You had th e j o b. I ain't gonna with it.
Speaker 4No, but I think at the end of the day, man, it just alpha grounded me in something. And
Speaker 6Most importantly, I think what alpha gave me was like a sense of, um, that sense of confidence in who I was and that what I offered to the world was more than good enough,
Speaker 4You know, like, you know,
Speaker 6I never really ever had an appreciation for like having a strong male role model in your home. Um, and what that meant. So, you know, to have these guys that, you know, at a certain point in time after information at the informational and getting to know run out of, run through a wall phone, you know what I mean? Um, and I think at the end of the day I look back on it and all the influence that all of these brothers had when my life, they never used it for you. Right. They never used it for bad. They never used it to help me compromise. Um, anything that I held there, but at the same time they pushed me to my limit and everything. Oh you, Oh you got this GPA or cool that ain't nothing, you know, Kevin's got a 3.8, five, what are you doing?
Speaker 4Shout out, shout out care fries.
Speaker 6You got, you got you. And this many org. Oh nice. So what like is, was an orientation and RA on the left and he's like doing a thousand other things and it just always the restaurants or the opponents reminded me, there was much more work to be done. Right. And that you then whatever you felt complacent with as, and complacent within the identifying as your limit was just a lie to yourself. And that's the one thing that I really love, man. Um, and then always, I think probably the, the most, the most important thing, which is like particularly cologne Emily, one time we were chopping it up at like, I ha and he was like, you know what? I appreciate the bus. She was like, regardless of whatever room you went to, whoever you're talking to, you know, I just noticed that you're always yourself. You know what I'm saying? That that's something that is, that is value that authenticity you like don't ever wave on. And I took those words to heart and I never,
Speaker 4So, you know, no matter where,
Speaker 6You know what I'm saying, sometimes you get this, this, um, this imposter syndrome, like you don't belong in that room. And anytime I try to regain that, that, that strength, our sense of self. I always harken back to that conversation and I'm like, hello, we don't, we are nothing alike. Like, you know what I'm saying? And the way that we grew up with speak with treats, approach, life, et cetera, and for him to see something like that in me at that point in time where I didn't much value myself. Alright, cool. I've got no excuse. I gotta, I gotta go for broke. Every rule mom, I gotta do all that. Um, I got to do all that. I know it's possible and push the limits of my own imagination of what I'm capable of. Just like really
Speaker 4Chain me. Um, and from an ambition perspective, imagination, and a sense of love for myself.
Speaker 5Thank you, Chad, man. There's a reason why I saved you for last powerful, powerful. There's a reason why a mother saved you for La nce B r own. You definitely, you definitely summed up. Not only my experiences, but you some no t, I believe the gr oup's e xperiences. And now that we got, we got JWC the hand. That's my th at's t hat's my ma ns b ro. As y' all k now, right? Ja y i s like, that's the dude that we g o ing t o w alk and I know Jay go ing t o b e there. J n o, I'm a beat in, I think that's important for the listeners to understand. Sometimes you need a group of people, no matter what, wh en l oss loss, wh en h a ir, you might look ugly to the people, you might be famous to the people. I know yo ur d oubt when th e l oser dr aw a b aby. I know. Yeah, no, that was the right button. I just wanted to put that. But Jamie man, since, since you just arrived, I wanted to let you get your 2 cents in, in terms of, because you came in a little different, remember me, Chaz, a fair Rayshawn. We were sorta on the same, same level in terms of your experiences, how did you view us coming into the organization? What input did you, did you have on our growth? And not only that, I want to shout out one more time. The people that influenced us, right. Can, can, can, can I do that fellows please? We had, we had a couple of people here. We had Anthony heartsong shout out, shout out at patrimony. We had Kahlil normals, shout out at stereo bros. Make sure y'all, y'all pay attention to that. They have a great podcast and Kahlil Nobles. He's he's a big, big, big, huge how to put huge on it. I didn't want to say to you, John, remember he shot John from Albany. I remember that was selling c alls, but anyway, shout them out because they were very i mpactful for us and for the listeners. That's understanding, pinpoint the people that are influential to you and hold them there. Because if you don't, you don't know what the is going to happen. So I'm go ing t o k ick it over to Jay. Y'all good right now ra tio. An d I know, I know he was driving. I don't hear no music. I don't hear no ca r. What's going on br other.
Speaker 4Oh, no, I'm good, bro. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 5You know, I got to check up on you freaky Z. You good
Speaker 4Dialed.
Speaker 5All right, go ahead. Go ahead. J dub deuces. Um, I don't know if I know the question, but um, I can repeat it. Yeah. Let me, let me get a, uh, Sini being that you came from just a different site and you're not going to talk about your experiences directly because we we'll get to that. But being that you are seeing the development of men coming up because a lot of the, the conversation that has taken place so far was that we're seeing and, or we are acknowledging the fact that others are promoting our, I guess we can call it our hidden talents in order for us to contribute to the frat. So being that you was the person that keep it funky, cause it's the cubby and we keep it real that you put us on. What was your outlook in terms of what we were like? And how can you say we have developed throughout this?
Speaker 7So that's a great question. But for me, in order to answer that, I have to think back to like my personal experience. So speaking to the Calila, speaking of the Anthony's of the worlds, kind of like how you said, I was the one that put y'all on gatekeeper, if you will, they were my gatekeepers. So it was a, yeah, you could drop all you wanted that. You wanted that one. So it was a constant race competition. It was a constant like evaluation, like, okay, what'd you do last semester. Okay. You got a 3.9. Cool. What are you going to do this semester? And I'm just like,. So it's always there's you're never, and that's kinda like the whole, the whole stance of the fraternity. It's like excellence. Excellence is not a goal. Excellence is a journey. It's never like, you're never going to get there. You know what I'm saying? So for me it was always like, okay, you did this, what else you did this? What else? What else can you do? What else can you contribute? Because the expectation is whatever you're doing in your pre fraternity life expect to do that times seven, because there's going to be additional things that you'll have to do. So for me to see y'all and I mean, I could speak to Chad Rashaan and T especially like T we were in the same class, you know what I mean? So it was, it was, I got a story to tell them it was, it was us. It was like, all right. We literally in the same grade going through like things together from freshman year to sophomore year to junior year. And then it's like, wow,
Speaker 2You got on as a junior, I got on as a junior, then you got on it.
Speaker 7Um, and then senior year when it was your time to get on, and then whatever happened, went down, um, it was interesting to see that shift from me, getting on to like, all right, I think for you, I don't, and you can speak for yourself. I felt like, uh, something clicked inside of you. It was like, all right, now I gotta step my up. Cause this alone. Yeah. Now I go t a, na h, I got a locked lo ck l o ck-in b ecause he did what he had to do. And I ain't going to now make sure I do all that I co uld d o on my part. So first of all, th ey c a lled m e T L o u d o wh at h e had to do wi th w hat he had to do. Right. So that that's, that's your experience? Rayshawn and Chad y'all were the younger, the tier younger, because y'all were juniors at the time. So for y'all, I mean, I'll talk to hi m i ndividually, Ra shawn. We saw the transition of like the HBB click and then from there to like, okay, yo u s tepped out and all of us shout out to HP V, you know what I mean? Cause that wa s, th at w a s
Speaker 2[inaudible] information. Um, and, and see you transition. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 7He's president of HSA. I didn't even know he was Haitian. Oh, he's not. Oh, wow. So yeah, I mean, just see like that's, that's the ultimate level of, of spin where you can engrave sheet yourself inside of a community and culture of something that you're not even a part of directly and still be able to make the impact and still to make that organization bubble. And Chad, you was always like the whisker, Chad was always like, all right, it's just going to be a matter of time because Chad always had the grade, shad was always the person who was studious. We just wanted to make sure he was in, he was, he was where we wanted to be in terms of like the brotherhood kind of aspects. But we just wanted to make sure he was social. And then when we saw him,
Speaker 3[inaudible] still going at it. Still go at it. That's why I couldn't miss this. I was like, yeah, I gotta be here. And then we
Speaker 7Bumped into child watching March madness. He was like,
Speaker 3Oh no, he's he's, he's like, he's a Wolf. He's the Wolf in sheep's clothing. He got that. Like, he's the, he's the one that
Speaker 7Like, yo y'all think y'all think I'm safe, but I ain't Never s ay never.
Speaker 3Oh my God. And then
Speaker 7That's the spooky town. That's the sea spooky. And then, then the Z, I mean, like there's a fair as a freshmen. It was like, yo, as soon as he stepped on campus, it was just like this aura, this glow around this young man. And then we thought like it fair had forcing you use,
Speaker 3Let's just talk about undergrad. I love everybody.
Speaker 7He came in as an 18 year old senior in college
Speaker 3And that just had another senior year and then another senior year. And then his senior year felt like a year of grad school learning straight jumped into it.
Speaker 7Your junior year or your senior year, your junior year. Right? Senior. Okay.
Speaker 3I was, I was the marketing director of the university,
Speaker 7The resume. And then I was the president of the, like, yeah, I mean, so it's just like you constantly, it was a constant evolution and, and all of the outside, um, the work and the leadership on campus, like it just took us that time to build up bonds and relationships. You know what I mean? Like it just took us getting closer and building the trust and like kind of seeing y'all evolve from like literally like young men to like, h e's a ll like alpha m en, y ou know what I mean? And it was just, all it took was just completing the process. U m, and but to me y'all were y'all w ere already office and I want i t t o every one of y'all. I w anna, I w anna say first of all, from
Speaker 5Us to you, and if I can say this, gentlemen, just want to say, thank you, man, just for seeing what you saw in us and how we are today. You contributed to where we are at today. And sometimes we don't give roses wrong or right. Sometimes we don't get roses. So I just want to say, I want to give those hoses, but to, but to the listeners out there that is participating in this cubby man, and you guys, you can find this anywhere. You can find us that at the cubby CAS that is on Instagram, you can find this at the cubby on Facebook. If you want to email us, you know, we, we read emails about every day. You can find this@thecubbycastatgl.com, but in order to just ask this another quick question, because this has been pondering in my mind as we were going on about just the relationship that we all had, not only from the people that brought us on, but for wherever you are stand in Lang, but is it allowed to plot with someone that experienced a similar journey compared to building relationship organically in the professional space? Because I know we all been there, a Z, you said that you, you were an entrepreneur, is it a different, and I'm gonna kick this to UC. Is there a difference that when you see somebody that is part of your not only your fraternity, but a fraternity in general, is there some sort of Ken, or is there some sort of attraction to that person that you feel is superior to those that do not, um, participate in the same experience and or organization that you are in at the time?
Speaker 4Yeah, absolutely. I think, um, I think just like any other, uh, organization, not even just, uh, exclusives of attorneys, you have a kinship with people who have like-minds and have are part of something that's larger than yourself. That you've all been through together in some capacity and another time or the same time. Um, so there's definitely a kinship there and a preference to a preference to open the door for that person more so than there would be a tendency open the door for somebody else just off the bat. And that applies anybody who tells you differently alliances. Cause that's something that I don't think is a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact, when you identify with somebody or something that identifies with the same culture and the same values as you, you're more, you're more prone to, um, opening that door or that relationship or, um, or, uh, having that sense of comradery. Now with that being said, though, I want to preface that there's gotta be method to the madness. You know, the person, you know, when we talk about entrepreneurship and in business, if that person, that person has to have the ability to perform and take it all the way, you know, um, uh, so it's still is what you make of it, but the benefit and the beauty of having that common bond and that common foundation is the fact that that's one less, one of the reasons why it's there. I think that networking aspect is a huge part of it. Um, you know, uh, it's gotta be there. So that's, that's definitely a thing you're, you're naturally drawn towards people of like-minds. Um, and then at that point you evaluate whether, you know, depending on what, obviously this is a vague example, but depending on what we're talking about here, whether it's a position or a business opportunity or whatever, have you, at that point, you, you can evaluate the capacity and the, you know, ability of that person, but that person gets in the door before other people, for sure. And there's no shame in that. I think that's how that's, how life works. Um, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's not to say that you exclude people again, if the qualification of somebody else is way higher than somebody who's in my fraternity, I'm going with that person. You know, that person is more so, um, uh, more capable for the position or for the opportunity or the project. Uh, but the fact of the matter is that there, the door will be opened for, uh, for the people who are like-minded people who have been through a similar experience with who have the same values as I do.
Speaker 5I'm a, I'm asked you that, I'm asking you a similar question in terms of, do you feel like your personality based on what J dub deuces was saying in terms of how you were studious? Do you ever find that your personality leans towards another organization outside of alpha Phi alpha fraternity incorporated?
Speaker 4No, not at all. I mean like, so I'm first generation American, so I didn't know nothing about Greek life, right? So I'm the first American born member of my family. So I had no point of reference. So when they would start talking about attorneys and such like that, the only thing that I really like pointed to was a couple of video of, uh, um, you know, a file that's cool.
Speaker 5A minute, wait a minute. Wait, did you just bring up a mega standby in this conversation, bro?
Speaker 4Well, when I didn't win as a casual, uh, for beggar, pretend to be life, my only point of reference was by YouTube videos.
Speaker 5Chad, I'm going to tell you, that's always messed up for me. My alpha versary. It's a factual statement. Alpha nursery is the founding day of a mega sigh five. I just want to put that out there. I think that's hilarious, bro.
Speaker 4[inaudible]
Speaker 5I think that's hilarious that my
Speaker 4Mother o utfit. Yeah, you right.
Speaker 3You right you right. But, um, go ahead and chat. Don't let me don't let me digress, man. I just want to,
Speaker 4Um, and as I continued to do my research, right, like I met a couple of older gentlemen in a fraternity and you know, they were just telling me like, Oh, if you want to really measure what this fraternity is about, you do a deep dive and have conversations and you figure it out for yourself. It will be a parents. Won't be hard to make, uh, uh, uh, uh, alpha, uh, amongst all the others. Um, but he was like, do some simple, this is compared to Wikipedia pages. You go ahead Peru. You know what I'm saying? And I just saw that in everything consequential in our nation's history, alpha was there alpha men shine through alpha Manhattan, hands in a pot implement, went in alone. And I just constantly saw that. And, and what most impressed me most is that alpha was diverse, right? Yeah. We studious and all that. Right. But at the same time, we still know to have fun. You know, we partied hard labor. Most of all we graduate, this is what we do. This is making,
Speaker 3Hold on, wait, wait, hold on. What we gotta to work on? What, what the we g otta w ork o n? W e g otta, we gotta work on the t ransition. What w e g ot, w e're g oing t o transitions. C had s aying we party hard, but most of all graduate
Speaker 4Stay up late. For most of all, we graduate. You need to work on your transit. So like we just got a diversity of, of, of, of black men. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the one thing I love about it is just like I found a place in it because, you know, I think, I think if you, you, you, you look at other fraternities, you know, the, the most prominent image is a caricature of, you know, who they are. And I think it kind of devalues it, but I mean, I'm not in their organization for good reason. So, you know, it is what it is. So, but I think I've been to the day, but it's alpha. Um, what I, what I saw then, and what I see now, um, eight years in a bond is that like, you know, there's a place for you here. You know what I mean? But the only requirement is that should be the best version of yourself. Right. And I remember that, I remember that to the court, through that one time, you know, Anthony told me that he's just like, yo, like you, ain't got to be nobody else with yourself. Like you, don't gotta be another version of Rashad just said, nobody else, but you will be the best version of yourself or this ain't for you. You know what I'm saying? And you know, I've always said I was good enough and you know, I had a place in it.
Speaker 3Yeah. Chad, man, you know, I with you, you know that for a f at w ow.
Speaker 5Hunted, hunted mother g ray r atio.
Speaker 6And I'm actually, I'm gonna ask you this question
Speaker 5Question, man, what specific stereotypes can you say are accurate amongst alpha men and those that are falsified. Some things that you have picked up within your journey as a studious educated black, married young man,
Speaker 6You know, it's so funny because it's even so prevalent, even in the name, you know, the term compliment. I think that's the biggest stereotype that we face because would it be quite honest with you? You know, especially, you know, people think that they have a definition of alpha men, you know what I'm saying? That you, you relate the term out to men too. I feel like, you know, a lot of cats they see either fraternity and think that, you know, that's what this is about, you know what I'm saying? But you know, it, it kinda is one in the same, but if you wanted to say that it's very different, you know what I mean? Like, and it's sometimes difficult to separate from that. You know what I mean? For like, for example, you know, like I think in today's society, society, like the term alpha male, you know, some people may think of like, you know, that person that, you know, I don't know, get done, you know what I'm saying? L ike, I don't know, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like, you know, u m, j ust, you know, referring to the c omment that we made e arlier, you know, for us it's more so about that, you know? Okay, cool. Be your best self, b e your best self and then be better. You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 5Better man, on what an upper,
Speaker 6You know what I'm saying? It's there, there's your bath and then you have to be better. You're not saying that because you know, it is that pursuit of greatness. And just like Debbie said, like, it's like, yeah, we'd never get there, but it's just, you know, along the way we go, we want to pick up every brick that, you know, that'd be late. Like, I think that, that also, you know, that, that it's truthful, like that kind of drive into the stereotype as well, because it's just like, you know, see it. And they see it as like competition, you know, things like that. But for us, I it's healthy,
Speaker 5healthy w ithout, w ithout competition. Like what are we doing out here in these s treets?
Speaker 6You know what I mean? And it's not even, it's not even like, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I've met so many different houses that like I could honestly say, I don't know if I've met one outfit that I can say with like me, you know what I mean? But it was saying once you have those conversations and you see the lifetime business, like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, there's always something. And I think that that's the piece that we're all tied to, you know what I'm saying? And that, and that's why I say it is such a serious thing when it comes to the whole album and Saturday, because we all look different men, you know what I'm saying? Like some of us are super tied up, you know what I'm saying? But some of us, some of us is string, you know, North face out, you know what I mean? Back in the day and every platform that you see us and be in the front of the world, you know what I'm saying? Like, we never be in the back of the picture. You know what I'm saying? Like, you see our names on the billboard first. You know what I mean? That's not, that's not a thing that didn't happen. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you know, it's a standard set, you know, as alpha men and something that we, you know, something that we were made on, you know what I mean? And that's where I think that we were all just not lost that way before we close out, you know what I'm saying? I can't, I can't like attest to that any more than it is. You know what I knew? Like, I'm thankful that, you know, alpha borders all together, you know what I mean? And that, and that was done.
Speaker 7Jamie, let me ask you this question. Do you find those same attributes amongst others that are not in, in organizations? Do you find that attributes that Rayshawn was speaking about in other people? It's tough because there are some times I see similar characteristics, but there's a lot of weirdos out there
Speaker 6[inaudible]
Speaker 7I don't wear those. But what I, what, what tends to happen is like, there's always like this common bond or connection or common characteristics among men of alpha. You know what I'm saying? I've always felt like, all right, we got something. Even people from like, I mean the West coast is a whole different, whole different thing. Expand upon it, bro. Thanks, man. Well, the Western general is very weird, but people in the West coast are very cause. All right. So I guess I'm generalizing, but here's the thing new Yorkers in general is the most genuine, thorough, real. And I mean, it's the concrete jungle, so penitentiary. So I mean, people we got, we got a re we w here'd y'all i f a new Yorker don't like you, they g oing t o tell you straight up. I don't like you facts. And that's it. The problem is on the West coast. I don't know if it's the weather or the beaches or Hollywood, but sometimes they won't like you and still be with your friend and your friend b e f riending you, I don't get it. It's a whole different, it's a whole different dynamic, but I digress so t hat the a lpha n ess, the whole, the whole core of alpha is something that I've seen more common among alpha men. U m, and we have that common bond and it doesn't seem to w aiver as much. You know what I mean? I feel like from there, you always see men o n alpha men o r men of service, alpha men tend to have like that same kind of aura ish around them in New York. I f elt like the heartbeat a little stronger, but I feel like everywhere in the country i s still has, like, I could tell you got a little, you got alpha ish characteristics, but y ou not from the first s tate of alpha, you know what I'm saying? You from, u h, a descendant state. U m, why are you, why are you a lpha s haming, bro? I'm not a ll for s haming. You a sked me a question a nd a n honest opinion. I just w ant t o say on behalf of t he cubby, man,
Speaker 2But not shaming or with you saying you ain't in real, you got to put facts on it.
Speaker 7That's all right. You can be a, but it's different. It's different. There's levels. Like Rayshawn said there's levels to it. You know what I'm saying? So, but I still with you. You w ant m e to have a great time and I with you me personally, but go ahead. I digress. I mean, yeah, you ar en't, you cool. You might not get in t h e i nner circle, but yo u, yo u t here, I just want to say on behalf of the cubby, PDA PS A, I have to be PC. Uh, p lease. Don't this is an al ternate c u bby.[i naudible] W hatever you bring, you go t t o f inish it. You br ing a nything
Speaker 2Early
Speaker 7Because ain't nobody worried about you in the Covey four through to the couple of years, stay on your P's and Q's because you never know what happened in the cab. The most important rule. You only get three times in the cup and most those three times I'm being honest with you. I don't think I'm going to have y'all back and be honest. This is
Speaker 2Now you got to have got to have him back. No, I ain't got it.
Speaker 7Yeah. You know my time, no time with Jay, but go ahead and finish, man. I really want to understand this difference between real and. I t's hard, man. It's like, it's intangible. It's legit. Like that's probably what they call it. The intangibles. It's just a glow. It's just a feel when people start opening their mouth, you ever just meet somebody and be like, yo, there's something about this dude. Yo, t here's something about h im. T here's something about him. Y ou just h e's like, yo. And then after like 10 minutes of conversation, either challenge happens or you do some Googling a bout, Oh he's frat. That,
Speaker 2That happened.
Speaker 7That happened. That happened with Ken and Jay. Yeah. We've just met this. We looked at the and we said, yay. Something about those dudes. H e got that young, young got that young. He got that freaky. Y eah.[ inaudible]
Speaker 5The fears. What we call them. First of all, I want y'all to shout out as a fed, please go check them out. He's doing big things
Speaker 2Years, man, he's doing big things. Please go check them out. That man is putting together a million dollar deal. So if you really do want to,
Speaker 5You get into any sort of development and or investment, please check them out. Uh, the fed what's your tag again, if you could remind the people again,
Speaker 6Fear underscore underscore, you got to, I might've took my name and put them in
Speaker 5The double underscore, but yeah, Jamie, man, I really want to embellish on the fact that you made, um, you can notice it and it's, and it's an aura. W would you agree or, or would you disagree with, I agree wholeheartedly, but I really want to make sure that we talk about the importance of if you're not in a fraternity or if you don't have some sort of process that you go through. And I know the fear said as well as Chad and may Sean, about having the experience, blood, sweat, and tears, you can still present these attributes because that's who you are. That's who you are as a person. It's only, it's been, it's like wine for us, right? You're in a barrel and it gets fine tuned through time. It has pressure on it and it has the ripe. You gotta have the right grape in order to make wine. Can I put facts on that? It's a fact.
Speaker 2Cause if you have a
Speaker 5Great, it ain't going to make good wine, but you gotta have the right grapes in the right conditions, in the right setting, in the right soil in order to make fine wine. I'm gonna put facts on that one more time. We're not excluding those that do not have this sort of wine culture, but I do want to make presents that you can, and you are a person that has those sorts of attributes. I do want to ask this question because in the cubby we talk about three different things. We talk about professionalism. You talk about who you are amongst the society. And we talk about the certain levels. So I want to ask this question guys, and I'm going to kick it to ratio. What is the about alphas in a K e ight? What is t hat?
Speaker 2And why is that?
Speaker 5No, I don't, I don't, I don't know your experiences. I don't know where you've been, but I do know as a fact,
Speaker 6What is this about? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, first of all, you know what I'm saying? We were together, you know, way before, you know what I'm saying? Like before we even knew what that was, you know, again, man, energy is real. You know what I'm saying? Like, I shouldn't that all of us, you know, you, don't just, you, don't just like, if there's a few ways you can look, you can look at life, you know, things, you can look at life in terms of like, everything is planned out for you. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people agree with the mayor agreed with that. You got to say it like, you may think that like, you know, if this happened to me, it'll happen. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, some people walk their lives where, you know, look, the choice that I make today will really dictate everything different. You know what I'm saying? But like the one thing that never changed his name is like energy and commonality. And like, I think that that's the. I think that, that's what I'm saying. Like, I can't even explain it myself. You know what I mean? Like I'll never forget when like, you know, me and my wife even had that conversation like way before we would even think about, you know, getting married, like, you know, Hey, like, Oh, you bought to do this. Like, you're not saying like we did it the same semester the first time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it never, never knew about it until like, we were both like doing it. You know what I'm saying? You know, like that blows my mind. Like every p ot.
Speaker 5Do you think it's organized that way? Do you think the process dictates a alpha B to B with an AKA, a Delta to be with an Omega Sigma to be with a Zeta?
Speaker 6I met my wife when I was 16 years old. You know what I'm saying? I think I was in, I was in high school. They didn't know nothing about that.
Speaker 5Yeah. But yeah. But yeah, but your nature is just so crazy to nature.
Speaker 6We literally had like, like, I don't know, like you telling me I'm, I'm on the inside. Like I talked to me to be on the outside. I don't think nothing, nothing of that was set. You know what I'm saying? I really don't. You know what I mean? It's just that I really do feel like, you know, we both, you know, a lot of our interests with other things, you know, and I think one thing about my wife is that we both, we both Pisces, you know what I'm saying? So
Speaker 5Connected
Speaker 6[inaudible]
Speaker 5Did you just[inaudible] to this conversation,
Speaker 6But now, you know, when it comes to, when it comes to, you know, authenticity and originality, like, you know, that's just who we are. So I'm not at all like that. You know what I mean? So,
Speaker 5Well, I, I, I can tell you from my point of view, man, and this is just my humble opinion, man. I think the process dictates, uh, something of that. So the process does not give you the tools that it doesn't life without granting you a partner, I'm going to go down and put facts on it. I'm going to say A's. And from the alfalfa's a fraternity incorporated, as well as the deltas and the omegas, as well as the, the Zetas and the sigmas and not to leave out the, uh, Iotas by the way, I think a lot of people leave at Mount and, uh,
Speaker 2I don't, I don't know why I'm just going to leave that right there.
Speaker 5Um, but I don't know why I do believe that the process is going to dictate base on principle based on what you are not only taught, but what your, your natural inferences are and how you go about things. I think they put you in a position to say, okay, you are good with this. This person can comp limit you. And I'm going to use that word very specifically compliment because I know a lot of alpha dudes and I take myself, for example, I'm a, I'm a, how do I put this? Uh, I'm an alpha male because I was born that way. Like, I don't know what else to be. And now when you see an AKA, we call it, we call that facts here in the cold call fact, but I'm an alpha male, right? So whatever I think I can do, I'm going to do it. There's no gray area. There's nothing of that sort. I put in the time I put in the energy and I'm going to put in the effort to do so. It is in my experiences. I'm going to say that one more time. It is in my experiences that I have dealt with a lot of AKA. They say, do what you need to do. I'm going to support that. That's not saying every woman does not do that. I'm not saying that. But I do believe within that process of being an AKA, you are enabled to say, no, I can get mine and still give him his. And I do believe in, let's take a different vein in terms of the deltas and El Mega's, we're doing this no matter what, there's a bunch of dogs in that. They call it fire for a reason. Now I can say from my experience, it's fire, fire. Fire is hot fire. It could be blue. It could be red, but guess what it is file. You know what I'm talking about? And I that's my true belief in terms of the Zeta and s igmas. I'm b e honest. I don't know a lot about it.
Speaker 2[inaudible]
Speaker 5I'm just saying I don't, I that's just, I just,
Speaker 2I don't know. I don't know a lot about it.
Speaker 5I'm just, I'm just being honest, but I can say whatever organization that you're in and how you develop and how you proceed as a young person or as an older person, you are who you are and you bring value into this world. Can I put facts on it? That's fine. So this is a segment that we into core facts.
Speaker 4[inaudible]
Speaker 5Let me ask you how this goes. How, how, how do y'all like the transitions by the way, the transition is good. You guys feel comfortable, everybody. All right. I like the transition transitions.
Speaker 4What about professional? Real professional professional.
Speaker 5So the first fact that I'm going to put on this is being a part of any organization is about what you do with it. Like JFK said, do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
Speaker 4Whole heartedly agree, man. Like, I mean, sometimes when I was younger, it was just ignorance, right? So I saw the organization with this mystique and everything. And of course, like being in it now this for eight years. Yeah, but the mystique is warranted, right? Our laws are what they are. They're unimpeachable. Right? What you get from this organization is, is that the secret sauce to it, quote unquote, is just, it's the same sauce that you have for any relationship you have in this lifetime. What you put in is what you get out here. So it's just a matter of, like you say, you want to be, so you say you want to be part of some great sorority or whatever. Like if you, all you do is idolize the people who you want to being in, in, in, in brotherhood or sisterhood with, and don't really recognize the blood, sweat, and tears that went in for them to be in a position that they are brothers and sisters in the bond. And don't really understand the sacrifice that great members often rattled off prominent members or whatnot did in their own lives and their own vocations, et cetera. Then all you're doing is just like the kids you don't really want to put in. So man, all you will get out of alpha. All you get out of anything you put in this lifetime is what you put into it. So I mean, it's up to you. I think that conversation would go and you know, maybe it's another, it's another episode. There's always an organization and there's a brother. And a lot of times you, that's just the reality are we pulling the facts
Speaker 3On that?
Speaker 6Well, now, you know what I mean? So it's just like, you know, I'll be completely honest. Like, and this goes back to what I said earlier. You know, like I say, personally, for me, I feel like I've benefited and gained so much more from my fraternal bonds and even just the bourbon hood itself than I actually anticipated, because like I looked back a lot on my life. You know, when I was, when I was a young man, a lot of those things I did for an incentive, you know what I'm saying? Like, Oh, you know what, you know, I can get that 3.5, let me pull him back. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, once you to real life, I read, I read
Speaker 3[inaudible],
Speaker 6I'll tell you that, you know, real talk like, you know, after, after, you know, after college, it was more so like, you know, you guys are still in my life, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, every, every brother that I have, you know, been a part of his coming up, well, you know, every bird has seen me come up, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's still very much, so, you know, like heavy weight players in my life right now, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to, like, for me, I'm not, and I'm going to speak for myself. You know, that wasn't necessarily something that like I couldn't afford saw in the beginning, like tearing out like how beautiful it is. I think about, I think about my wedding, you know what I'm saying? Like the closest people, other than my brothers, my blood brothers that was there with newly HBB frat, like
Speaker 3Shut up.
Speaker 6I'm just like, yo you know, like, like like, like, yeah, my b rother, m y, my frat brothers are my frat brothers, b ut t ill they really, my b rothers, you know what I'm saying? Like r eally o dd. L ike, you don't have to s ay like, these are my real friends, you know what I'm saying? Like, y ou k now, a lot of people, I had one person, y ou k now, pointed out to me a nd I was just like,, like you only kick it around a t h ouses. And then s ay in a sense, I thought that was so serious. Typical at first I was t old l ike, I was just like, what m y, you know, like, what do you mean? L ike, n ah, you know, that's, that's, that's h is b ack people, you know? It just so happens that y es. You know, w e're, you know, a lot of us out there, y ou d on't say not all of us, b ut a lot of us are l ike, you know, and t hat, that goes into, you know, what you put into i t, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've put in work to do r elationships, b uild b rothers, you know what I mean? Like we're all at the attorney. H is attorney is always going to act as an organization, you k now, s ay i t, but there's always going to be new brothers. Y ou k now w hat I mean? But in terms of you building a brotherhood that w ill really c hange your life, you know what I'm saying? Or, you know, h elp you feel your life and then y ou do one o f the same. I think
Speaker 3I'm unfortunate. You guys, thank you.
Speaker 5You know what? I, you know what I got to put on that? I'm gonna be honest with you, man.
Speaker 3[inaudible] it.
Speaker 5You got to recognize what's real and what's not real. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna say that I'm happy for you and I'm proud of you and the bond that we built goals beyond measure. As you already know, I don't really got to say that I'm wax, but I, but, but what I really want to know is, and I'm going to put another fact on this and I really want to get you guys' opinion on this. To be perfectly honest with you. If you don't have a cap in your life, your access to quality, good looking woman is old, bro. You don't have a cap in your life. Your access to quality. Good looking woman is luck facts, bro. And I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna shout out all the cap is out here in these streets. And the only reason why I'm saying that is because for some odd, reason, and I don't know if it's part of their bylaws or some like that, but I always see good looking like I'm talking about amazing women around cabs. Do you guys agree or do you disagree? I'm gonna kick it to whoever wants to acknowledge this and I'm not goin g to k ic k it to the married man. Caus e I g et it. So I'm not goin g to d o that.
Speaker 3I mean, one of my, one of my good friends, you know, use the tablet, but I'm be honest with you.[inaudible]
Speaker 5I'm be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest with you bro. I'm just, it's me
Speaker 3Freaky Z. I'm not agreeing with that. You're not agreeing with it. Well, yeah. What was the question? What was the class?
Speaker 5It's not really a question. It's a fact.
Speaker 3If you don't have a capita in your life. Yeah.
Speaker 5Access to quality. Good looking women is low. I'm going to put another fact on that.
Speaker 3[inaudible] you sound crazy, bro. If you're not hear me say earlier, I'm not, you know, a ll o f t hat, b ut n o, we c an just tuck that under the rug. I'm g oing t o t alk a bout i t n ow.
Speaker 5Let's talk about[inaudible].
Speaker 3What are you talking about
Speaker 5For some odd reason? Think about it. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's it's the mirror that they put up.
Speaker 3I dunno. What the y o, yo p ack i t u p.[ inaudible] you c an't be paying gang.[ inaudible] I'm a superstar.
Speaker 5Number two. I'm going to keep it real world. Like I've been around a lot of people. You guys know, I travel this country. I've only not been to
Speaker 3Ask me anything. You want
Speaker 5To explain my point though? I'm just saying,
Speaker 3I like to explain my question, right? My question before you had the privilege to know that
Speaker 5Chad, I'm be honest. I don't feel like that.
Speaker 3[inaudible]
Speaker 5Like, you're the one.
Speaker 3First of all.
Speaker 5All right, let's go ahead.
Speaker 3All right, man.
Speaker 5Yeah. I'm going to chat on that man. I'm a, I'm a chat on that. I don't, I don't agree that you got gotta have a cap. No, I'll just say I didn't say that. I say, if you don't have a cap in your line, your access to quality, good looking women.
Speaker 3Yo bro. That's wild. Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5The wall freaky. He didn't say at this point. So I wa nt t o g et, I just want to get the opinion. Chad is p h ysical, sick.
Speaker 3You're sick.
Speaker 5Freaky Z. I want to get your opinion on my facts please.
Speaker 3You said I don't respond to irrelevance. Can you repeat that more time? You want me
Speaker 4To Repeat what you said? Just so I know, I feel like I'm missing something here.
Speaker 3So is this a[inaudible] I'm going to repeat it for you, man. So hilarious. If you don't have a cap in your life, even that it's like what's going on? What's going on? Can I repeat it? If you don't have a cap in your life? Yo, come on. Sorry. It's just needing to have another man in my life,
Speaker 4In the brand right
Speaker 3Now. Why is Chad still speaking?[inaudible] bro.
Speaker 4You know, I, I get, I get what you said and you know, if anybody, I mean y'all know me. I've been accused of stealing the girls on campus, but, but here's the thing cap is, do get good looking woman.[inaudible] Y'all need nobody on your camp. If you can get one, man, if you understand woman, if you understand, uh, you know, and if you have the confidence, you don't need nobody to tap with you alpha. Like you don't need none of that. Now
Speaker 3Put facts on that before you continue
Speaker 4Facts. Here's what I think. Here's where I think you're coming from with that statement though, because, and this is important guys, because there I'm unique. I have a very unique experience. I'm the only one on this call. First of all, it's not black. Right? I joined a black fraternity. When I came on campus, I explored multiple fraternities. I went on, you know, took me, tried to take me to a new Paltz capitalism, tried to recruit me opposite. The only one I was like, what the you doing
Speaker 3On campus?
Speaker 4But I say that to say that there, what I, what I noticed during this project, cause I know Nick about fraternities. I'm a boy Brown boy from Brooklyn. And so when I came on campus, that was a blank slate, trying to understand what was going to have fun party and et cetera. What I realized was there are certain values that stood out amongst certain fraternities on our campus that were stronger than other values that everybody's presale hat, such as a high GPA, versatility, et cetera. The thing that stood out about Kappa Kappa alpha side is that they, they were very much into, um, you know, they were very much into partying and they were very much into getting women and they were very much into doing events that combined the two, if you will,
Speaker 3But that's not all there. I'm just going to put that out.
Speaker 4That's not all their incident. That's not what I'm saying. And there is everything else, but I'm saying that's the one quality that stood out in my experience. That was the one overwhelming quality. It was like, just like you said, cap, good, good looking woman and their quality, et cetera. And they party and they, and they throw great parties, which is all, which is all true. So I'm not taking away from that, but that, but that was the overwhelming quality that stood out from my exposure to that organization. The thing that drew me to alpha and the overwhelming quality that drew me to alpha is the versatility. You know what I mean? I've always been drawn. I've always had an allure for, for excellence, striving for excellence. So it wasn't just excellence that alpha put me on to which, by the way, that was one of the main things is the one that had the most level of excellence. So that was a big driving force. I don't want to take from that. But the bigger thing is the versatility be the cast on campus. Shout out to Jamie on the phone. Yeah. The cast on campus had the girls, they had the parties, but they also had the depth to them that I so desperately needed and see, and saw not having, uh, any positive male figures in my life.
Speaker 3And when I, when
Speaker 4I understood when I understood that depth and that depth was combined with the ability to have fun and be yourself and be accepted being who you are amongst men of a certain prominence, a certain aura, you know, and I, and I'm in sort of an incline. And so when, when you're, when you're around people, you know, library, Sean said, energy is real. You feel it. And so being around, um, being around people that have greatness in them as a quality is something that you feel that demeanor, that aura, when you come in the room, when you can walk in a room full of vultures, that's a real tangible, or it's not, it seems insider, but you feel it that's the one thing
Speaker 3I do because I understand it,
Speaker 4That versatility was important for me. Cause I didn't, I wasn't worried about getting girls. That was, that was not on my list to accomplish. That was, you know what I mean? That was, and I might've seen if that was happening, but the, what I really wanted was, was more than that. Cause that's, that's great. That's it? I'm not taking away from that. You got to have that, especially as a young college kid, of course you think about that top of mind, et cetera. But to me, even as, as a young, as a young man, it was important to have that versatility and that longevity, right? If it's an overwhelming quality of an organization, in my perspective, in my limited experience and perspective is to get women in parties. That's not doing anything for me in the longterm, as it would be to get a woman in party, uh, to have excellent values, to strive for excellence, to do more than you think you can. And to be with people, hold themselves to such a high standard in every aspect of life, you know, physically, spiritually, emotionally, financially, you know what I mean? That's, that's more important to me to have a well-rounded versatile perspective on life. And that's what, that's what I found an outfit.
Speaker 5First of all, I want to thank you for getting the point of my. First of all, thank you. Second of all, I think we need to have G in here to at least give a little perspective on the capital or get a in here to defend that state. I want to shout out G man. I want to make sure I'm going to have and give him his cause he's not saying no organization is about one point. I believe that most organizations are about communal and or a well-rounded person. I'm just saying, if you see your Kappa, you going to see a bad mob, the next to him, that's a ll I'm saying. And it's not saying that I don't have, first of all o f i t's me, let's just put that u p there. But I think this is t he perfect transition for you to do that. Shout out to Cairo,
Speaker 4Albany, Albany, Albany, Albany,
Speaker 5How many offers or shout out to cable by the way, can we put facts on it? Shout out to them, man. And I'm going to be honest with y'all. I almost became a C apitol. Talk about that. I a in't know that me talking about y'all n o names. I don't know. Yeah, man, this i s t his, this person n amed Andrew Bennett w was really close
Speaker 4[inaudible].
Speaker 5He came to me one time. He's like, yo, what you trying to do? Say I'm just trying to live my life and be great. He said, I got something for you. I mean, my options. It ain't nothing crazy. But then I kind of diverted once I saw that Jamie got on, but this is a perfect t ransition into my favorite segment. It's c alled love is love
Speaker 4[inaudible].
Speaker 5So within this segment, we like to leave the people off the positivity. We spoke about a lot of things. Today. We spoke about the importance of organizations we spoke about the bond that brotherhood or a sorority can give you in order to propel you further in life. And I do want to say December 4th is when this month the,
Speaker 6God,
Speaker 5I just want to put that out there as facts, But I do want to say, and for those that don't know what love is love is as a segment, once again, we leave the people off with just a love is love statement, and we're going to go around the table and we're going to not only acknowledge, uh, what being a part of this life is, and, or being a part of a brotherhood is, but we're just going to give something to the people for them to walk away with whether you're in your car or you're at home, or maybe it's late at night. Maybe you're listening to this and laughing, but we do want to leave off with something that is positive. So I'm going to kick it off to Jamie first. Oh, cool. So for me, I mean, staying on, uh, staying on brand with the topic. I mean, I'll just keep it simple. First of all, servants of all we shall transcend all, you know what I mean? That's just, that's just the way it goes. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's the way of alpha. That's the motto I live by. Um, I'm a servant man. I'm here to serve and um, and once we continue to serve, we'll continue to transcend not only, uh, our culture, our community and everything within. So first of all, servants vol, we shall transcend all that's. My love is love Rayshawn, which w what you got on that love is love statement
Speaker 6[inaudible]. But, um, but then, uh, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, that's what I want everybody to take away. Everything is all about perception. You could be having a bad day or, you know, you could be having a day that what is what you do with it, you know what I'm saying? And like Jamie said, you know what I'm saying? First of all,
Speaker 5I'm going to kick this. Chad, Chad, what you got on that love is love statement.
Speaker 6Um, well, I was trying to get a demo early, you know, the break attorney, ice cold 22 degrees, um, on December 4th, New York, um, you know, for the vision that they have for this great organization that, you know, I can continue to have bonds with men, um, different walks of life that I met over a decade ago. Um, you know, just to see what the, see what the quality of the bond, you know what I mean? Like we can not sleep on one or two times a year. Jamie,
Speaker 4He's always in the, you know, just little things like that and letting me know me the right decision. So I'm forever in debt. I have, uh, endless bounty of gratitude for this organization, for my forefathers, for the, for the brothers that, that gave me something tangible to, to dream and continue to push me on me accountable to this day, um, from my alarm bubblers man, like I've learned a lot of good and a lot of bad things from now, but all in all, man, like, I don't know, some dudes are more protective and loving and respectful in my journey. So thank you for all that you've done to help me become the man that I am today. And, uh, you know, uh, you know what it is, man, you always seem, um, you see most of the time you, uh, my brother, uh, nothing, if it's not the creative genius. And it's just, it's, it's amazing to see how that creates CBD has evolved over the last decade, man. And I know, I know that the seeds are planted in, into your life. You will be blown into something, you know, um, measurable and amazing. So, um, Oh six to the good that's what I got to say.
Speaker 5Uh, Chad, I would like to thank you for that novel. When I asked you for us,
Speaker 4That was quick for me, you know who that the words meant over here,
Speaker 5Uh, Z I'm I'm going to have to kick it to you. What is your love is love statement to leave off to the people before we go ahead and exclude
Speaker 4Man, one more is there to say, man, we must all have more compassion for each other to begin. I love you all for impacting and influencing me positively in so many different ways and being able to learn so much from y'all being in different stages of your life in different walks and avenues. I want to give a big shout out to all the, all the people that came before us that paved the way for us to be where we are today and the different facets of our lives and the different things that we're able to do because of those that came before us and shout out to the greatest attorney on the planet. I'd be founding brothers,
Speaker 5Or
Speaker 4I want to go again.[inaudible] so with that, I will not.
Speaker 3Thank you, Chad. I just want to throw it out there.
Speaker 2[inaudible]
Speaker 3Can
Speaker 5I say my love is love statement, please. Can I say
Speaker 3That?
Speaker 5I love his love statement so we can conclude this with all right. So my love is love. Saving, never changes. It's always the same comedy is life. Life is comedy is comedy life. Just use those three words because you got to decide to laugh. Cause it's going to be a lot of heartache out here. There's going to be times where you don't know what to do. There's going to be times where you're just sad, man. And that's okay, but you have to decide to laugh. That's why comedy is life. Life is comedy is comedy line. Just use those three words. So I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up from my brothers. And this is the last thing I'm going to say. Who are you with?
Speaker 2Thank you all for coming.
Speaker 3Wrap it up again.
Speaker 2[inaudible] praise me. I'm never complained. He mentioned Ben Franklin, wait, hold on.
Speaker 5I just want to make a correction from earlier. It's not servants of all. First of all, we shall Chan sandal. It's first of all, servants of all, we shall transcend all. I just want to make sure that is a distinction
Speaker 1Because I couldn't leave this podcast without saying it so happy founders day. So the brothers of alpha Phi alpha fraternity incorporated, and those that are in other organizations, w ith you to bang with y ou, but.