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Episode 4: Dance Your Way to Success: The Impact of Summer Intensives on Your Journey
Can you imagine a summer where you not only improve your dance skills but also grow as an individual? Welcome back to Dance Buzz, where we dive into the world of summer intensives and how they can shape your dance journey. Join your hosts, Jonathan and Chelsea Godfrey, as we reveal the secrets to making the most of those sunny months and explore how dancers can enhance their training and personal growth.
We weigh the pros and cons of training at your home studio versus an outside summer intensive program and discuss the importance of holding yourself accountable, both in and out of the dance studio. Discover the benefits of studio owners supporting their students in attending outside programs and how pushing beyond your comfort zone can lead to personal growth and a heightened sense of accountability.
As we wrap up, we delve into the importance of planning ahead, taking the right amount of rest and downtime, and the multitude of summer programs available to keep you motivated. We also share valuable tips for finding financial assistance for summer intensives and help you decide if training at a home studio or an intensive is right for you. So, let's make this summer count, and remember, the best dancers are built in the summer!
Hello everybody, welcome back. I'm Jonathan Godfrey. I'm Chelsea Godfrey and welcome to Dance Buzz. So on today's episode we are going to dive into the importance of summer intensives and just talking about summer intensives. So I think the first thing we want to chat about is just the importance of it, why it's important, our feelings on it, before we start to dive a little bit deeper into different summer intensives and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I think one of the greatest things about summer programs and what people can remember is that the summer months are not our off season, right, like everyone always asks us, like personally, like for work. Oh it is. Your season is gonna slow down, does it pick up? Because most competitive athletic sports have a upseason and then they have an offseason, but even during that quote offseason, most athletes continue to practice and participate in programs.
Speaker 2:However, I think that sometimes there's this mindset where we go through this season of dance which typically, you know, over on the East Coast, is like August, September to about June mid-July, depending if your studio participates in a nationalism and when the nationals runs.
Speaker 2:And then I think people think, okay, well, now I have off for, you know, july and August, or they have off for like a longer period of time, it's like their quote, off season. However, you know, i think it's really important to remember that this is the best time for your training right now in the summer.
Speaker 2:You have no school, you have nothing else you need to think about except for getting up and how you're gonna get to dance and what you're gonna. or if you're not gonna get to dance, we're gonna do at home, right, or you know? and then I'm sure we'll talk more about different kinds of programs and stuff like that. But I think that's the biggest like. for me, stereotype is that people think that the summer months are just supposed to be relaxation months, and I believe in time off. I want to just clarify I believe in time off and allowing students, or giving students the opportunity to just be done with this, the quote season, and then have a refresh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's definitely nothing wrong with time off and taking a short break and, you know, enjoying some time to yourself and with your family. But your famous quote is dancers are built in the summer. That's Chelsea's go-to line, It's our quote. She lives by it. I true believe it. And it's true Dancers are built in the summer. You know, I'm a big kind of math guy and numbers guy and you know if somebody does nothing all summer, you know they do no training for a two and a half full months or two full months or whatever. You know somebody's getting hundreds of additional hours over top of you and I think it's really difficult when we come back and parents are like, well, why is my dancer in the same level? And I'm just like, well, they just missed hundreds of hours that somebody else is doing. So of course that person is going to progress farther and maybe be in a higher level. Maybe you're in another solo, Who knows?
Speaker 2:But yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1:No, it's fine, I was just saying the importance of summer is just really important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think the mindset of the growing process being so substantial during the year versus over the summer is actually, in my opinion, really has more of the opportunity to be the other way around, where I think that during the dance year obviously there's growth patterns. I got always say, every three months you should see some kind of change, some kind of growing from your child or your dancer. But you're able to take in the summer, exactly like you were saying, all those hours and you just like fixate. You just fixate on dance, what your goals are, how you're going to accomplish them, and you have more time in your day to do that, where you would be going to school over here on the East Coast until four o'clock and then we really don't get dancers until four or four thirty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if you're looking for continued growth, it means that you need to continue your training.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that training can either be at your home studio or that could be at a outside summer intensive, and they both have their values to them. They both play an important role in every dancer's training. I know some studios are fully against dancers going and training at outside studios.
Speaker 2:Well, summer training is different than like weekly training. But I mean, weekly training is kind of like a different topic, i feel like in the sense of just, i guess, like studio sharing. I don't really know how to word that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean some dancers maybe timid to go out into outside training and do outside summer intensives, especially ones if they're having to stay over for a week or two weeks. Some dancers and people just not even gonna say dancers, you're gonna say people are just uncomfortable with that, whether it be the family's opinion or the dancer's opinion. So I think that's where studios hosting their own summer intensives for however duration of time they wish to choose is super valuable. That some people find need that comfort where other people are a little bit more willing to go out and step outside of their comfort zone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think also kind of just jumping back a beat to studio owners not permitting students to allow their students to take opportunities at other studios or other programs and stuff like that. And I think the number one reason why people do this is because they're scared they're gonna lose that student to that program.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And my again like life motto I feel like is I feel like is like for being a dance studio owner is if you're really concerned about your student, right, it's almost like a control thing.
Speaker 2:So if you're really concerned about your student leaving, then you should reflect on your own program. Something might be missing from your program and it's just an insecurity thing a little bit. but don't allow that insecurity to stop you from giving your dancer additional opportunities and exploration, because most of the time those kids go back to their home studio with improved technique From their home studio, from exploring outside studio stuff. And I think that's also why sometimes outside students are timid about going to summer intensive programs at a different studio because they're like, well, if I go to this studio and they take videos and they take pictures, what happens if the studio owner sees me and am I gonna get in trouble? And I think it really just goes back to we just need to make sure that we are providing the best training and programs that we can for our dancers, to ensure that we feel confident in what we're giving out, so that when we send them out we know that they're gonna also come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, every studio offers something different at the end of the day, And if your studio is unable to or not willing to offer that, then I don't feel like you could be upset with a dancer for leaving And that may be unpopular. I know some students are like, well, this is my kid. I'm like we don't own these children. These dancers come through our business.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make it hurt any less. No, agree, it doesn't make it hurt any less when a dancer is at.
Speaker 1:I don't mean to tangent off, no, it doesn't hurt any less when a dancer leaves, especially one that you've put so much time into in growing them and preparing them and training them. But we don't own them.
Speaker 2:No, but I think summer programs are very different. So I would definitely. I think I look at summer programs as a huge benefit, like the more summer programs someone can participate in.
Speaker 2:I'm like great that child's gonna come back in September and they're gonna have, like you said, hundreds of hours under their belt, whether they're. I mean, we require intentses, which I'm sure we'll talk about a little bit later, but they'll take some from here, some from there, some from us, some from these people, some like one day workshops, whatever it is, And then they're coming back in September and they're like refreshed and they're like ready to go.
Speaker 1:Which I think is a big thing that teachers need to be comfortable with is their students are going to grow from learning from different educators. And I'm not saying that because we believe wholeheartedly in a home studio, a home base, home teachers, where you're getting your consistency. But it's really refreshing, i think, from a dancer's point of view, in a couple different ways to learn from somebody different, and especially when you're constantly giving one dancer the same correction and you don't feel like they're able to apply it, but then somebody else tells them the same thing And then they're like I got it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I think of course, it makes us upset a little bit. We were like, well, i've been saying that for so long, but at the end of the day it's like yeah, but your dancer got it.
Speaker 1:Don't be offended, Yeah don't be offended, your dancer figured it out And you've played a crucial part in them learning that. but it's so important to learn from different educators and different perspectives. They're gonna learn new styles. I know when I went and did summer intentses when I was younger I mean I got to learn house, i got to learn breaking. I learned African different styles of modern that, like, my studio didn't provide. So, like they're learning different styles that, at the end of the day, they're gonna bring home to you and they're gonna be stronger because of it.
Speaker 1:So I think being able to go out learn from different educators is a really good tool for dancers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think also a really great thing about summer intensive programs is the opportunity to meet new people 100%. The dance community, as we all know, is a very small community. A lot of people know a lot of people. Everybody knows everybody. Even though it seems so big, it is so small 100%.
Speaker 2:So it's nice sometimes when you get to meet people and essentially you're networking, and a lot of times the people that you are in these intensives with are the people that you are going to be in auditions with. So if you're a sophomore and you're with another sophomore in high school and that's probably someone that you're gonna see at a college audition if you choose to go that route or at a talent agency audition or anything like that, those are your competitors as well as Pierce.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean let's talk a little bit deeper into. Some are intensive specifically outside of our home studios, sure?
Speaker 1:and different things. You know we talked on a little bit. The first thing you brought it was there's no school And I mean this point goes hand-in-hand with either at your home studio or an outside Intensive but there's no school that these dancers have to worry about. You know, i'm sure they have summer work and summer reading that the schools give out and that's totally fine. But they're waking up and they could just go to dance right, which for a lot of these dancers, young dancers, is an outlet for them. They enjoy that. They want to go, they want to spend time with their friends, but sometimes it's good to get away from your friends in your training. It's good to go meet new people.
Speaker 2:Dan's that comfort.
Speaker 1:You're breaking that comfort you're able to grow because you're not comfortable and maybe I mean this is gonna, you know, be whatever, but maybe one of your friends is a distraction in class. You know, let's be honest, kids can easily get distracted, just like us adults. I get easily distracted sometimes, you know, but I think going out, not having to worry about school, not having to worry about Maybe schoolwork, you're able to spend all of that focus in dance, whether you're in class or not. If I'm in class, i'm sure some of these kids are focusing about oh, i have a test tomorrow. I need to study for that. I have a paper. Do it midnight that I need to finish as soon as I get home. So during the summer, you know, dancers are built in the summer because they have less distractions, maybe yeah, for sure, i agree 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, i mean, i think. I mean I know we talked about the perks of being, you know, in an outside Summer intensive programs. I Do think, of course, that training at your home studio is Equally as, of course, important. You know, and I know every program offers something different. I guess you could say, like some people offer or some people require, like I know, we require at least one week Yep of our, at least one of our intensive programs, right, and we offer to and we spread them out and we give them out a year in advance.
Speaker 1:So we put them out the August prior, even before that, really, i think it comes out in a yeah no, yeah, august, They come out August prior. Yeah, i mean, you can learn so much from your home studio as well. You know that's where you're gonna find your kids, your consistent growth. You're gonna find those, some of those breakthrough moments. You're gonna be a little bit more comfortable with your teachers, you know, and comfort can be a good thing and a bad thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it has it's pros and its cons, i mean, i Mean comfort in how your approach to class is where it's the most crucial, right Like yeah you Like, if you're just like in your home studio, if you feel Comfort in how you're approaching class, like you can just allow your body to just kind of relax, sometimes In a bad way, in a negative way, then Yeah, then you have an issue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not gonna find that consistent growth where I think sometimes that outside summer intensive, that outside class kind of pushes them to step. They're like, oh you know, if the dancer is able to self reflect and I think this is something we push on our personal dancers a lot of self reflection, self observation And if you're not able to do that, you know and you go. Or sorry, if you are able to do that and you go to an outside intensive and you're like, wow, i'm really exhausted, i worked really hard and really sore. Why am I not that sore? Maybe it's just because you weren't pushing as hard at your home studio, because of, you know, the comfort.
Speaker 2:The comfort and that I feel like that tends to happen actually a little bit more towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2:People start to get really I wanna use the word laxadaisical, because that's like that's how I feel. Sometimes people start to get really lax and it's really easy after a quote, regional season, if you're a competitive dancer or if you have a recital, after all of that kind of stuff, you're kind of like okay, i can kind of chill prior to nationals. And I am a big believer in saying when you have a sprinter right or a runner someone had told me this one time and now I swear by it or I live by it I coach by it right, when you see a sprinter, they're not gonna just slowly get to the finish line, even if they're coasts ahead of everybody else, they're going to sprint all the way through the finish line. So that includes all the way through nationals. And then if you need a little break after nationals and then prior to diving into your summer training, like no one's gonna like hand, like that's not like a bad thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, like I said earlier, everybody needs that downtime. But I think the point you're talking about in between regionals and nationals brings us to the next point, of accountability.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know being accountable for continuously pushing yourself and not letting yourself become quote unquote, comfortable to a negative is really important. Where you know if we're home, you know your day to day. Maybe you're relying on somebody else to do some of this work for your weather. Be your mom, your parent, your grandparent, your sibling, where they're packing the lunch, they're packing the dinner, they're packing your dance shoes. But if you're at a summer intensive and you're away for two weeks, you don't have anybody to do that for you. You have to be fully accountable. You know who's gonna make sure that your point shoes, for instance, are packed. Or you know you have a dead pair who's gonna sew them. You have to be accountable. So I think that's another kind of pro for me about outside summer intensive to a point is being able to be accountable.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I think you're also specifically saying not only outside intensive, but sleep away.
Speaker 1:intensive Like sleep away camps, i mean.
Speaker 2:Whether it be dance or not. dance, Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You have to be a little bit more accountable, which, you know, is something that we talk about a lot is being accountable, you know, for your actions. If you know a dancer forgets the shoes and the first thing they say to me is well, my mom forgot to pack them. No, why is it your mom's job to pack your shoes? You need to be packing your own shoes, you need to be taking care of yourself And, of course, you're gonna get help. You know, even as adults, we get help from other people. But being accountable and taking accountability for your actions is, i think, a big part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause that's how you learn. Accountability is just. it's like sometimes being accountable it doesn't always have to necessarily be like a negative thing, it's just like a learning process just like any other part of life.
Speaker 2:You grow from it, yeah. So I think lots of pros to there's only pros to summer intensive programs And, honestly, i think what frustrates me the most is you see all these kids right, all year long they're doing conventions, they're doing this, they're doing that, and then the summertime comes around, i'm like what are you doing? I'm not doing anything. What Nothing? I'm like what did you do all this year? work for? You worked so hard during the year. And then you're just like, yeah, i'm just not gonna do anything. I'm just like, even if they were just gonna come to our intensive, even if they're like, okay, i'm just gonna do one intensive, that's not enough, though.
Speaker 1:It's not.
Speaker 2:It's not enough. That's not enough.
Speaker 1:Time at all You know when I mentioned this earlier. I think my biggest pet peeve of it all is coming back and being like why did I lose this, or why am I not in that same spot? And I'm like, well, that person outworked you.
Speaker 2:You can't rely on your natural talent, because there's a lot of natural talent, there's a lot of natural ability and there are just dancers that are just hungry. At the end of the day, it comes down to who wants it more. Who wants it more And who's willing to outwork it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the same thing And even like, kind of like talking about like, even like dance team stuff. Like I know they have like a lot of combines and like different things and opportunities where they're meeting people in that same kind of field that they want. But it's like, but what are you doing over the summer for that additional training, aside from going into those combines? Because I find and this could be whatever, but I find that a lot more time people who are doing more dance team stuff don't necessarily always love the convention portion of it, which, okay, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1:Everybody has what they like and they don't like.
Speaker 2:That's been my experience. People might come at me for that, but that's just my personal experience, so it's just like okay, so what else are you doing? Because if you know you have goals that you need to hit, you can't just think they're gonna happen overnight. right? I've said this before if you're gonna go, if you have an exam, a final exam, you can't think you're gonna study the night before and then ace the exam.
Speaker 2:The same way, where you can't think you're gonna take, like as the audition process is approaching. okay, now I'm really gonna focus on my training. Sorry, You know what?
Speaker 1:and I mean talking about dance team, is a lot of. Again, my experience is at least here on the East Coast right because we've worked with other dance teams from Texas and on the West Coast and those dancers on those dance teams train in their dance team rehearsals, where here on the East Coast it doesn't seem like that as much.
Speaker 2:I think it just depends. I mean, we really don't have that much exposure to it, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Well, the ones that we've seen. But ballet is important for dance team And I don't think they See that as much and they don't understand it. But those fundamentals in your Ulysses Couln turns and the jumps that you're taking, like you need that technical foundation from ballet to build upon those things And I don't think they're Wanting to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why I think that going back to like summer intensive stuff, like even if, like being in a ballet track isn't what you want, that doesn't mean that like you the ballet intensive wouldn't be valuable I don't understand that concept at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean it's just.
Speaker 1:It's just mind-blowing. But you know they will come in and say I want private lessons and I'm like private lessons are great. Yes, nothing wrong with private lessons. But private lessons should not be. You're driving focused during the summer.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't take place over Correct. It's like in addition to it would be like I'm doing a summer or I'm doing an intensive, and let's say the intensive runs. Okay, i'm just gonna throw this out. Let's say the intensive runs for Law. Use ours, for example. One of our intensives runs Monday through Thursday, and it's from five to eight. So what are you doing before five o'clock? Yeah, because you can, during that time, do privates.
Speaker 1:Or what are you doing the three other weeks in August?
Speaker 2:No, i know I'm just using that week as an example. But yeah, you can use that time. You know, even if you're doing an hour and a half ballet private and then, like, the way our intensive is set up is very similar to a convention. We have teachers come in. It's a convention setting. They're taking different genres for that particular one. No, um, but you know what are you gonna do during the day, and I think that it again doesn't have to be private every day. I understand, too, that financials may play a role, and not every, not everybody, can do that. However, there are a lot of online platforms and online programs that people have that are much Cheaper than doing an individual one-on-one private lesson.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of free information out there I mean, I know we put a lot of free information out on our social media so much free information For sure private lessons should not be in Place of your classes.
Speaker 2:They should always be in addition to even during the year.
Speaker 1:You know the answers are like well, i'm just gonna do a private. No, a private lesson doesn't make up for a misgroup class. You need to make sure you're focusing on your group classes, because there's so much Value in learning to be a group. You said this the other day in one of our podcasts Group work is important.
Speaker 1:Yeah group work is important and learning how to dance with other dancers and move as one and you know, is so important that I don't you know, i'm gonna say it again private lessons are not in place of they're in addition to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think we just need to train, jerk our change, our view or the Again maybe the verbiage is on like what is important right And where, what our goals are right and how we're gonna achieve those goals And what we're doing to get to those goals. Because, at the end of the day, i think there's a lot of finger-pointing of you know, you didn't teach my daughter or my dancer or my son or whomever to To do this.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of like finger-pointing but, it's like well, what, what have you done On your end? like this is what we're doing on our end. What are the additional steps you're taking? and, honestly, one of our? we had a student, she attended the Gen 4 intensive and And, honestly, came back as a totally different dancer.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I've told her mom that like a million times, because I think that she's just learned so much how to move better in an environment where, yeah, she had like a like. There was like a couple other kids that went, like from this, you know, from our studio that went, but she just like, was so inspired, and I think that's part of it too. You're just inspired by different people And I think, at the end of the day, when reflecting on what we can do to achieve these goals, summer is gonna play a big role, and It's not just I went to a million conventions during the school year And now I'm gonna take a break somehow. If you feel burned out Really need to work on spacing it out better than and financially as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean it comes down. You know, like you said, the financial portion of the parents, the Physical demand that, because every dancer, every child, every adult is going to have a different threshold of something. Some people can just go and go and go and other people need to take some downtime in between. But you got to watch the downtime doesn't become too much, because then you kind of lose that motivation, i feel like sometimes to get back into it. Yeah, i take too long of a down, of personal downtime, whether it be like not a vacation, but just like even sometimes during the day I'm like I've been sitting too long. Now It's hard to get back into it. Yes, and for me, that's why I like to go and go and go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I never turn off slow down if I slow down, it's so hard to get going again.
Speaker 2:Go I know, i know, i know, yeah, i agree, but yeah, so I think, with with all, all, all said summer programs We all need to look for and John maybe, maybe want to talk about, i guess, how you would lay out your summer, or some great summer programs that you find have been really beneficial, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean I'll give a variety of different ones because you know, as we said, not everybody's gonna Look for a specific pass. I mean there's so many ballet intensives out there, of course, you know there's the more like here on the east coast and you know, near New York City We have Joffrey. You've go down to Philly, you have the rock. I think Masters Ballet Academy does a great summer intensive if anybody's willing to travel out that way. Alonzo, alonzo, lines, kings, yeah, complexions.
Speaker 1:I know Alonzo's is West Coast, but yeah, that's West Coast, but then I mean you have Gen 4. Gen 4's an amazing intensive and you know, like Chelsea said, one of our dancers came back Growing so much movement quality wise because they were taking a lot of those classes where they're focusing on movement quality.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it was something started me to cut you off, it was something like different for her, because it wasn't like just Now again, i'm not saying that there's negatives to this, but like it wasn't just ballet or it wasn't just technique work, It was Movement it was like how to move, how to explore? that Yeah and that's why it's important to change up what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to find that right like do a ballet intensive, do a UDA combine, do Gen 4, do Tremaine like, do NYCDA like, do all these like summer programs that are offering you different, because you may think you know what you want, like where you see yourself going, and then you could just open a door for yourself that you didn't even realize was there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could change. I mean we had a dancer graduate a couple of years ago who went to school wanting to do dance team and then got in the school and wanted to do a major. I mean things change, your mindset changes when you're put in like different environments. Yeah, you know, for a dance team people, yeah, check out the combites, check out like 99 Tribe, i know they do like a summer tour.
Speaker 1:So I think at the end of the day, if you're wanting to achieve something and you kind of have a better idea of what that wants, you have to take the appropriate steps to do it. You know, if you want to be more serious in the ballet world, like, start going to ballet intensive, start taking extra ballet classes, some ballet privates working with a variety of teachers, if you want to be a dance team, college dancing, go to the combines, go to the schools, check out. You know I think they have auditions and you know clinics and workshops or anything. You're like, go to those but you can't not do anything. You have to be continuous. But you know, back to summer, i mean, if you're doing a nationals, maybe take a week, maybe If that's like something that you want.
Speaker 2:I know sometimes for the ballet programs it doesn't always work like that. Yeah, Ballet if you're doing the ballet programs.
Speaker 1:You're jumping from nationals right to the ballet programs, but then you maybe have a little more downtime in August.
Speaker 2:August yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean for me, for a dancer who is kind of like my person, where they're on the go, maybe take a week, maybe. I mean I could never take a week, i would lose my mind. I mean, when we're on vacation I'm out doing things. Even on vacation I'm like I need to go do this, yeah, i mean whatever. But take a week or two And then but can keep it up, whether you're doing privates or whether you're doing, you know, classes here and there, but you need to stay active, you need to stay moving to make sure that you don't lose everything that you learned throughout the year, because that's sad when a dancer ends the year on such a high but comes back and they've lost so much growth.
Speaker 2:It's. I also think sometimes, John, that it's not necessarily that they've lost so much growth. But it's just growth, it's just that people have gotten so much better faster and they have grown like they have surpassed that. Yeah, And that's come down to you know all the summer stuff And I think also when planning summer stuff, you have to do exactly that. You have to plan, You have to know what, where the auditions are, Like you should be looking for summer programs in December.
Speaker 1:But before that, yeah, for ballet intents you need to be looking in like October Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You have to yeah because you need to have all this audition, information needs to be set and then it has to be into your, into your schedule And then at that point you know that's when you have the conversation with your studio owner or teacher and you ask their opinion on stuff. If you want it, i mean I, i personally, i like to hear what kids are doing this summer. We ask them all the time, Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if we get an email saying, like you know, I'm looking at some summer intents, what are your opinions? I like that because I know they're going to continue their training.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I also think that, like sometimes people ask like, like just try to target, i guess, what you want, like what are you looking for out of your-.
Speaker 1:Don't be too broad with your questions. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like let's let me, i'm happy to guide. I just need some guidance from you on where you want me to guide you. Yeah, i mean as a parent, like tracker you're trying to go through.
Speaker 1:Maybe do a little research prior to chatting with your studio owner. You know kind of view of which direction you want to go, like you're saying. And then you could say, well, i've narrowed it down to say five or six options. You know, i mean that's really not a lot. I mean there's because there's so many out there, and be like, what do you think of these? And then you know we'll either rank them, we'll tell you what we've heard about, or, if we haven't heard anything, i don't know. I know nothing about it. I mean, you know you have to be honest with your clientele to provide them with the best.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think before we end, like today's segment, i just want to talk really quickly about I know we really briefly touched on the financial portion because I do think sometimes people like you know maybe struggle more in the summertime, especially maybe if you're a teacher or whatever everybody's circumstances like in the summertime just like financially to support summer intensive programs because they are more money, especially if you're housing someone. You could be up towards $5,000.
Speaker 1:Easy.
Speaker 2:So I get that, which again goes back to there's a lot of free information. There's a lot of free classes online. There's a lot of. I know we hold virtual classes, that we welcome kids that to do and you know, i think we charge a reasonable rate for the time and it's maybe not as consistent as I think most new owners would like it to be, but it's more than what they would do if they were doing nothing.
Speaker 1:A lot of these bigger summer intensives though that are running through a nonprofit also offer scholarships.
Speaker 2:Very true.
Speaker 1:You know, I know when we were in college, some of the intensives we went to offered scholarships. So I don't think it hurts to ask, reach out to the intensive and be like, okay, do you offer either financial assistance Because I know the one we attended you had to send in your parents if they were paying for it, your parents financial information, and then they decided how much money they could give you off of that, or maybe they just offer scholarships, Yeah. So if you are worried about the finances, ask.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially coming home after, like a nationals event or whatever it is. Yeah, but I think that's it for today's segment, which is, if you couldn't tell, summer intensives are important.
Speaker 1:Yes, If you're gonna take one thing out of this summer intensives are important.
Speaker 2:Yes, let's keep our bodies moving. Remember, the best answers are built in the summer. That's the most, that's the best time. So, Yeah, all right, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 1:Bye guys.
