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E86 Before Genesis, Part 2: Was Creation Actually a Recreation?

July 08, 2026 • Pastor Penny Schulz and Kristen Kipper • Season 1 • Episode 86

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Could Genesis 1 be describing more than the original creation of the earth?

Many Christians have read the opening verses of Genesis countless times, but few have explored the possibility that they describe a recreation following a catastrophic judgment. In this second installment of our Before Genesis series, Kristen Kipper and Pastor Penny Schulz continue examining one of the Bible's most fascinating mysteries.

Building on Part 1, we take a closer look at the Hebrew language, biblical context, and scientific evidence that have led many Bible scholars to ask whether Genesis 1 records God restoring a world that had fallen into chaos.

In this episode, we discuss:

What "formless and void" (tohu and bohu) really means in Hebrew
The Gap Theory and why many Christians misunderstand it
Whether Genesis describes creation or recreation
How Scripture and science may complement one another
Why Lucifer's rebellion could be connected to the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2
Why these questions matter for understanding spiritual warfare and the Bible's larger story of redemption

Whether you hold to a young-earth view, an old-earth view, or are simply curious about what Scripture says, our goal isn't to create division—it's to encourage deeper Bible study and greater confidence in God's Word.

Join us as we continue laying the biblical foundation for our upcoming series on Genesis 6, the Book of Enoch, fallen angels, and the unseen spiritual realm.

Because sometimes understanding the beginning helps us understand everything that follows.

Join us, Pastor Penny Schulz and Kristen Kipper, adventurers through the holy lands and warriors in Christ, as we explore the fascinating, the weird, the difficult, and the obscure while unpacking the Bible. Come and see as we dig into spiritual warfare and the fallen angels, aliens and UFOs, the Nephilim or Rephaim, prophecy, angels, giants and so much more! We promise to bring you joy, hope, inspiration, and intriguing, out-of-the-box thinking, and ultimately salvation through Jesus Christ.