The Rouss Review

Trash Collection Schedule Changes

Sarah Frey
Dan Hoffman:

Hello, and welcome to another edition of the Rouse Review. I am Dan Hoffman, city manager, and in front of me it's Sarah F. Fry, the PIO.

Sarah Frey:

Hi everybody. Hi Dan.

Dan Hoffman:

Hello. We, um, we've got a fun one. We've got Mike Nee coming in in a minute. He is Michael Recycle. He is. Do we still call him that by the way?

Sarah Frey:

Uh, I do.

Dan Hoffman:

Yes we do. Michael Recycle, um, all

Sarah Frey:

the elementary schoolers he visits every year. Call him that.

Dan Hoffman:

There you go. He we're gonna talk trash with him a little bit. We gotta change to the schedule coming up that everyone is going to hear about. Ad nauseum until July 7th. So, uh, stick around. So you hear it here first. Um, now talking about council for tomorrow night. It's actually kind of a quiet one. What? I will so

Sarah Frey:

much land use,

Dan Hoffman:

so much land use, you know, so first off, Monday is a holiday, so don't, you know, that's really kind of the, the biggest thing is. The city offices will all be closed Monday for Memorial Day, so we'll be jumping right back in on Tuesday. Um, and it's, there are 10 public hearings that is, uh, a large number of them, but I think most of them are, you know, it's a right of way vacation. It's an easement access, it's a. You know, there's an MOU that's kind of a, you know, perfunctory thing. There's nothing on there that I'm expecting, you know, throngs of people to show up and, and talk about. Right. We've got a, a few conditional use permits to grant to, you know, a business and a nursery and, uh, the youth development center. You know, if you wanna see how the public. Hearing process works 10 times in a row. It that it will be educational for you. Um, but because a lot of'em are second readings, they've been discussed, uh, a lot already. They've gone through committee. There's, you know, a lot of these things are gonna go boom, boom, boom, which I'm not gonna complain about. Um, but if you're looking to like, show up and see something really. Heavy, like the budget discussion or a major policy decision. It's not really here in this one, but what you do have is the ability to show up, say hi to the, the staff that are there. You know, if you've ever wanted to meet a city counselor or if you ever wanted to, you've got a question of staff about something. It is kinda like. Open office hours, you know, during the meeting, obviously you can't talk, you can't just gotta walk up and start having a conversation with us. But you know it every Tuesday, even if we don't have a, a ton of stuff on the agenda or, or maybe it's a lot of more administrative things on the agenda, I. You know, you're still welcome to show up, you know, pull one of us aside before a meeting. Introduce yourself. Uh, ask a question. We may not have a ton of time, but you know, we are there. So, um, we hope some folks show up If you watch from home, cool. Uh, or if you're just taking a, taking the week off because it's a, a short week with the holiday. Hope you have a good one. Hope you have a hope. You had a great memorial day and. Hope you have a great week. Uh, so with that, uh, let's get into what's coming up here.

Sarah Frey (2):

It's summer so much. Well,

Dan Hoffman:

you just got into your, like that was candy voice. Yeah,

Sarah Frey:

I did, I did Do you

Dan Hoffman:

Thoughts with Sarah Fry?

Sarah Frey:

I can be a meditation guide. This is, this is a guided

Dan Hoffman:

meditation through what's coming up in the city.

Sarah Frey:

Listen,

Dan Hoffman:

it's, we're gonna put people to sleep.

Sarah Frey:

Fine. Okay. How, lemme start over then.

Dan Hoffman:

It's summertime

Sarah Frey:

school's out.

Dan Hoffman:

Mm-hmm.

Sarah Frey:

This week. This week, school is out. Mm-hmm. Done school's out for summer. Yes. So on Friday, May 30th, the first official day of summer, once school is out, parks and Rec is having a big old party. Hmm. We're kicking it off over at Jim Burnett Park. Yes. Four 30 to eight 30. There's gonna be food, bounce houses, obstacle courses. Pony rides. Pony

Dan Hoffman:

rides.

Sarah Frey:

You'll be able to hang out with city services. All the guys that Mike Niece is gonna be talking about that hang out on the back of trash trucks. Yes. We're gonna have drone demonstrations. They will be

Dan Hoffman:

sanitary, there will be clean, they will not be covered in garbage. They might even help you wash your hands. There you go.

Sarah Frey:

Um, they are going to be there along with PD fire. Emergency management showing off all their cool toys and how they help our city. And then we're gonna end it all off with a movie.

Dan Hoffman:

Mm. You know, I love it when I, when I read the talking points for this and I find something out new for the first time that no one ever told me about, there's gonna be pony rides. Pony rides. That's kind of hilarious. Um, and of course another bounce house. Yeah,

Sarah Frey:

listen, if you don't have a bounce house, you're not getting the like, I know it's kind of a must three to 10 year olds

Dan Hoffman:

for like a little, a little festival like this. A little party. But oh man, they give me, they make me so nervous. Oh really? Yeah. You know, I'm always worried about'em flying away. Or some kid they put, you know, losing a tooth, it's fine. You probably don don't have a trampoline in your house. I become an old mom when I, when I see a bounce house. But you know what? The kids love them and there's a movie. Do we know what movie it is?

Sarah Frey:

I don't know what movie it is. But if you check out social media, especially the parks and rec page, they'll have all that information for

Dan Hoffman:

y'all. Jaws the perfect summer movie

Sarah Frey:

while floating in the pool.

Dan Hoffman:

No, we will, we are not gonna, we're not gonna terrify you guys like that. It'll be a very family friendly movie.

Sarah Frey:

Yes.

Dan Hoffman:

Uh, with pony rides and, and all the other kind of stuff.

Sarah Frey:

And that's not all that's happening at the park this weekend.

Dan Hoffman:

Good Gravy

Sarah Frey:

on Saturday, the 31st. Okay. There's also the first ever game of skate competition over at Skate Pad.

Dan Hoffman:

Oh, that's awesome.

Sarah Frey:

Yeah. So starting at 11:00 AM come out, watch people compete, use the new skate facilities. If you don't know our skate community, get to know our skate community. Yeah, it's gonna be a really cool event. This one I might have to check out. And do you know all of the self restraint it took to not use the words gnarly or shred Once in that,

Dan Hoffman:

sorry, you clearly have not been watching your teenage mu inch turtles enough.

Sarah Frey:

Oh, mistaken. All right. And then last thing is the outdoor pool's gonna be having their 11 annual splash bash.

Dan Hoffman:

We've got so many parties

Sarah Frey:

at 1130. Yep. DJ's, giveaways, all kinds of cool stuff going on over there.

Dan Hoffman:

So after the uh, game of skate, just walk on over to the Splash Bash. Yeah, but no ponies that day.

Sarah Frey:

No ponies. All right, then pick up parties.

Dan Hoffman:

All right. They're back. Well, they've kind of been back. They've been back. We already did a few, right?

Sarah Frey:

Yeah. This is our third pickup party of this year.

Dan Hoffman:

Wow. Time flies.

Sarah Frey:

Time flies when you're having fun.

Dan Hoffman:

Well, it's good. You gotta clean that garbage up. Now before we get all the, this rain and the big summer storms come through.

Sarah Frey:

That's one of the things. Yep. So Thursday, June 8th, 5:30 PM at Christiansen Family Land in Jim Burnett Park. Mm-hmm. And. If you can't find people do pride themselves on keeping family land very clean. So if you can't find any trash there, we'll send you across the street over to Wilkins Lake.

Dan Hoffman:

There you go. You go wade into Wilkins Lake and put trash.

Sarah Frey:

Oh, don't wade in the lake, please. You're

Dan Hoffman:

not, oh, you're not supposed to do

Sarah Frey:

that. I don't. There's a lot of, there's a lot of geese and ducks.

Dan Hoffman:

Oh,

Sarah Frey:

you do you. I'm gonna stay outta that water.

Dan Hoffman:

You're not a sanitary worker. That's fine.

Sarah Frey:

Alright. And then finally Oh,

Dan Hoffman:

comes, you know, how comes much? We love our friends at

Sarah Frey:

public services. Yes. We're gonna talk to one of them later. We love them and they love their teams. Yep. And the awesome work that these individuals do to keep our city. Physically actually running. Mm-hmm. And clean. And our water coming. Yep. And they prevent flooding from happening with storm water. They're picking up your trash.

Dan Hoffman:

And we know what you guys love. Touching their trucks.

Sarah Frey:

Yeah, you do. And if you don't, your kids do listen. You said I was too bland earlier. I brought it, I brought it to a vengeance.

Dan Hoffman:

No, I, I regret, I regret my decision immediately. The, um, no, the touch a truck. It's funny, I always go to it thinking no one's gonna show up.

Oh,

Dan Hoffman:

sir. But no. Oh no. They do. Last year, I, I got my hands, uh, in the paint. You got, I wonder if, I hope we're doing this year. Oh, we are.

Sarah Frey:

Don't worry. You

Dan Hoffman:

can. I. For the snowplows, you can go ahead and the kids can decorate the snowplow plows. Uh, that's always a good one. I think we typically have the glass crusher. The glass crusher will be

Sarah Frey:

going and I

Dan Hoffman:

think you, maybe you could probably, if there's enough while supplies last, you can take home a bag of, of the crushed glass. It's perfectly safe.

Sarah Frey:

Yes it

Dan Hoffman:

is. Um, it's not the old bago glass that, you know, it's, this is actually safe to touch. Yes, I will demonstrate that. Myself, I will shove my hand right in the big old bag of it and I will withdraw that hand and I will show it to you. It is perfectly safe.

Sarah Frey:

He's gonna do that before he dip his hand in red paint though.

Dan Hoffman:

Yes. Yes. That would be, that would be smart. Um, so. Yes. Come out, check out, touch a truck. Uh, say hi. I'm pretty, I'm looking at

Sarah Frey:

Wednesday, June 11th. It's

Dan Hoffman:

Wednesday, June 11th at four 30. I think I should be able to know that. Four 30 to six

Sarah Frey:

30.

Dan Hoffman:

So,

Sarah Frey:

and if you don't know where a public services building is, you go up Cork Street. When you get to the Moose Lodge, there's a little driveway. Yep. Right before the railroad track turn back there. Mm-hmm. And you will find all the fun.

Dan Hoffman:

Yep. I think Google's got it updated, so I think if you It does finally,

Sarah Frey:

it doesn't bring you in off Palm Mall anymore. It does,

Dan Hoffman:

yeah. It'll, it'll show you how to get in there, so, uh, come on down, touch some trucks. Say hi to our public services crew. They wanna see you there,

Sarah Frey:

and that's what's coming up in the city.

Dan Hoffman:

Excellent. Well stick around, we're gonna take a breather and then we're gonna talk to Mike, AKA from public services. Welcome back for his what? Third time? I know we've at least done this twice. Well, not this specific topic. Well, trash. It's because it's Michael Recycle. It's our, our main man, Mike Nee.

Sarah Frey:

Not to say that Mike is a trashy man.

Dan Hoffman:

No, he is not. No, he is not. Uh, he's, uh. What, what, what we call what, what? It's like we, we don't call'em garbage men anymore. We don't call'em trash, man. That's call, I call'em curbside engineers. Curbside engineers. Ooh. I like, I love it because sanitation workers, I don't like that.'cause it, it makes it sound like it was your job washing your hands. Like, what do you, what are you, what are you sanitizing? But. Curbside engineers, I kind of love it.

Mike Neese:

Yeah. The problem with sanitation is, you know, when you go into a, like a bathroom at a restaurant Yeah. And the sign says employees must wash hands.

Mm-hmm.

Mike Neese:

That's what a sanitation worker is. That's somebody who comes in and washes your hands. Yeah. You, you wait until the employee comes to wash your hands. Exactly. Mm-hmm.

Dan Hoffman:

There you go. So I don't want, so we don't offer that service just to be clear Okay. To, to anybody listening. If you need your hands washed, you can, uh, do it yourself. So that's why there's true, we do provide a lot of great services in the city. Washing your hands for you is not one of those things. Uh, although I'm sure now somebody will ask for it. Mm-hmm. So the, um. So I think, yeah, I think you're a third timer here.

Sarah Frey:

Oh, he's catching up with Perry and Kelly. Perry. Perry. We need more jackets.

Dan Hoffman:

That's true. Oh, there's jackets. There's jackets. Yes. Once you get the five timers club. Um, yeah. Perry and Kelly, I think you're now matching them.'cause Kelly's been in at least three times to talk about storm water.

Sarah Frey:

Maybe four.

Dan Hoffman:

And before, yeah, because that was the hot topic at the moment we started this. So

Sarah Frey:

yeah,

Dan Hoffman:

we talked a lot of trash, talked a lot of storm water. So yeah, I think, I think, yeah, you, you might tie the record with this, with this one. Well, that's all the time we have. Yeah, that was good. So now we, we are, we are talking trash and we are talking a major change to our trash collection system in the city of Winchester. Um. The day that your trash gets picked up

Sarah Frey:

and recycling

Dan Hoffman:

may be changing, it's a good chance it's changing. So we are gonna, we're gonna shout it from the rooftops. We're gonna put it. In your utility bill, we're gonna put it on the website. We're gonna put it on social media. There's gonna be all kinds of different opportunities. We're

Sarah Frey:

gonna come hang it on your

Dan Hoffman:

door. We're gonna come hang it on your door, handling your trash can. So on Tuesday, July 8th, here's what I don't want everybody. Why didn't you pick up my trash? No one told me. You will have to be living under a rock. It'll be in the paper. Mm-hmm.

I

Dan Hoffman:

will beg Brian Brim at the Star to run an article about this. We're gonna try to get it out there because picking up your trash is not just a convenience, it is a public health thing. Um, and everyone relies on it, right when you put the trash out. On Monday night, expecting to be picked up. Tuesday. You want it picked up Tuesday, I get that. So please pay attention. Your day may change. So Michael, when will this begin?

Mike Neese:

The second week of July. So that is Monday, July 7th. Monday, July 7th.

Dan Hoffman:

Mm-hmm. And on Monday, July 7th. We're gonna be, it's gonna be by Ward. Yes. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4. Super simple. We'll be picking up both the trash and the recycling on the same day.

Sarah Frey (2):

Woo hoo.

Dan Hoffman:

So all you gotta know is your day not, Hey, is today recycling or no? I thought we were saying, oh, super simple. It's one day for Ward. One Monday. Two Tuesday, ward three Wednesday, ward four Thursday. Also easy to remember because it goes in order of the days.

Mm-hmm.

Dan Hoffman:

And in the order of your ward, I never remember what day trash goes out because my son does it. But now I'll know to bug him for me. I will bug him on Sunday night, take out the trash. Easy for me to remember. Yeah. We're trying to make it easy peasy. It is. It's so easy. Um, and talk about yard waste. Friday. Friday.

Sarah Frey:

Bam.

Dan Hoffman:

Everybody, everybody. Friday is yard waste day. Now this doesn't change anything in terms of the cans themselves. You're still using those same cans. In fact, part of the reason why we can make this change that will save us all money. Woo

Sarah Frey (2):

hoo.

Dan Hoffman:

Is that we've gotten those automated trucks. So the Mike and his team have been developing, they've been honing their skills. We getting'em another truck.

Yeah.

Dan Hoffman:

So, and that was improved in this year's budget. Thank you very much, taxpayers. Uh, so now we're gonna be able to save a little money, make things. A little simpler. Mike, talk about some of the nuances here,

Mike Neese:

not just simpler, more efficient. Mm-hmm. Uh, that's, that's where the savings are gonna come in. We are currently unbalanced between north and south, and so we can keep adding additional personnel and additional trucks or rebalance it and by rebalancing it by the ward. The wards are based on population. Every time a ward changes due to population mm-hmm. The routes and the collection automatically adjust as well. Interesting.

Sarah Frey:

Mm. I hadn't thought about that.

Mike Neese:

Yeah. Long-term solutions, what we were looking

Dan Hoffman:

for. Yeah. See, he's not just about the garbage. He's a thinking man, too.

Sarah Frey:

Strategist.

Dan Hoffman:

He is a strategist. Okay. So what

Mike Neese:

about a, what about a major holiday in the industry? We call it a slide schedule. Ooh. Yeah. Because everything just slides a day peek behind the curtain, folks. So if your collection day is Monday and the holiday is on Monday, then your collection day will be Tuesday. If your collection day was Tuesday, it'll be Wednesday if it was, everything just slides back a day and yard waste gets canceled, just like yard waste is canceled now, but instead of having to remember, Monday has moved to Wednesday and yard waste is canceled, or Friday has moved to Wednesday. It's the next day. And even better. Even better, if you forget it's a holiday or it's not a holiday, you celebrate. Mm-hmm. If you put your trash out and your recycling out for collection, like regular.

Mm-hmm.

Mike Neese:

And you realize it wasn't picked up, you call in all mad.'cause we missed it to find out It's a holiday. You leave it there. Yeah. Because it's going to be

Dan Hoffman:

picked

Mike Neese:

up the next day. The next day.

Sarah Frey (2):

You're not missing a week. So simple. It's

Dan Hoffman:

not gonna be sitting out there for a whole week. Right? Yep. Just the next day. See? I didn't even think about that.

It's ingenious. That's why we got,

Dan Hoffman:

that's why we got smart people running our sanitation system. The hand washing the hand, our hand washing system. No. Trust me, these guys are not sanitary after a shift.

No,

Dan Hoffman:

they are the least. They are clean. I'm not saying that our guys smell by any stretch. Yeah, but at the end of a shift, you know, a hot day, maybe a day where there's been a little bit of rain, all that yucky garbage water sloshing around in the back. I remember it. The juice, I remember, it's been a minute since I was on the back. I

Mike Neese:

might have to go do it again. That's why that new building that we had built has showers.

Dan Hoffman:

Yes,

Mike Neese:

yes. For the 30, 50 years we were picking up trash before that, no. But

Dan Hoffman:

yeah, guys would have to, after being covered in soaked in garbage water. The end of a shift, they'd have to get into their car. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's nasty. That is just nasty. Um, okay. Anything else folks need to know?

Sarah Frey:

Some people's trash days are not changing. Who are they?

Dan Hoffman:

Oh, old Town. Is it a quiz? Yeah. Oh, yes. Thank you. Mm-hmm. Old Town. Now, is that just the walking mall or the, it's the walking mall and the blocks that surround it. Gotcha. Uh, so the primary and second, the primary district I guess? Yes. Okay. So the prime, if you're in the primary district, and if you don't know what the primary district is, just go to our website. Mm-hmm. Winchester va.gov. Uh, if you're, so, if you're in. The downtown, and really it is just the walking mall in, you know, kind of a surrounding ring of

Mike Neese:

mm-hmm. Yeah. There's

Dan Hoffman:

parallel streets, right? The parallel streets around it. Uh, that is still the same day, which is, oh,

Mike Neese:

that Tuesday for recycling, Wednesday for trash, and then Friday again for trash. So there's a, ah, a whole third level of scheduling. Yeah.

Dan Hoffman:

They, they, because they're in the primary assessment district, that's the, the little extra.

Mike Neese:

Mm-hmm. We're hoping that, you know, they can. This will give them time to adjust and figure out what they would like to do. If they wanna keep it the same forever, it doesn't make a difference to us. But if there are better days or better hours, this gives'em time to look at it and it gives us the flexibility to provide that service. Yeah. Right now, Monday and Tuesday we've got recycling on our trucks and nothing else.

Mm-hmm.

Mike Neese:

So if they want trash pickup on Monday, we, we just can't do it. Interesting.

Dan Hoffman:

Yeah. And, and the downtown core too, it's more, a lot more businesses. Mm-hmm. And although we don't do. Commercial trash pickup. We do serve a lot of the businesses downtown, so their rhythms and routines are a little different.

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan Hoffman:

And festivals and special events and yeah. Yeah. So while we've got you, all right, so first off, let's put a bow on this. Everybody, your trash day is changing. Winchester va.gov, you've been warned. Starts July 7th.

Mike Neese:

If you don't have the internet or don't like using the internet, reach into your pocket for your voter registration card. It will tell you which ward you're in. Yep. And that will tell you your collection day. Absolutely.

Sarah Frey:

But we've also got a really fabulous map. Mm-hmm. On the website that you can just type in your address and we'll tell you.

Dan Hoffman:

Yeah.

Sarah Frey:

We'll tell you everything you need to know.

Dan Hoffman:

Yeah. So two things. First off, and I've been thinking about this, we've got all these really sturdy, awesome black trash cans, right, that are part of our sanitation system. Now, can people personalize those according to City Code? No. No. Like maybe just, uh, a little like. Stencil of a flower or an apple blossom or something like that. They're not supposed to. No. Can they, can they decorate? They can't.

Sarah Frey:

I I, why is that? I just now picked up where you're going with this

Dan Hoffman:

because Yeah, I wanna, I want to see, yes, I've got a whole scheme why, but I think there's probably a good reason that Mike's about to tell us why we can't do this scheme. Why can't people paint on them?

Mike Neese:

We'd have to be super specific about what would be allowed so that it's not, and where, you know, offensive and it's not covering up serial numbers or

Yeah. Other

Mike Neese:

logos or things. Yeah. What we have a problem with right now is people purchasing containers that are similar. Oh. And then defacing them and painting them, being like, yeah, I'm paying for the 35 gallon container. Why didn't you pick up my trash can? Oh, because that's a rubber made 96 gallon container. Yeah, you hid it. But I, we still know, we look at trash cans all day. It was a for effort. We got you. But

Dan Hoffman:

no, well, maybe, so I think maybe there's still a possibility for my scheme.

Sarah Frey:

Yeah.

Dan Hoffman:

I'll, I'm gonna, I'm gonna think about it. I won't take any more time with it right now. How patient are you with your scheme? Uh, well, my schemes, they typically come in hot and then I quickly realize why they're bad ideas. See, it's the whole fail fast mentality. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Spit out the idea, you know, let smart people like you guys kick it around a little bit and then pretty quickly I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. That won't work. Thanks, but. You don't know until you throw it out there. No. Yeah. I'll chat with you about it. I got a, I got a scheme. Anyways, moving on, uh, to something not trash related. You're also a master compost man. You are, uh, a, I don't wanna say a rabid gardener. Ooh, I like that. But you are, you're a rabid. It's way better than like a master gardener

Sarah Frey:

is nothing compared to a rabid gardener. A rabid

Dan Hoffman:

gardener. Um, feral Gardner. Feral Gardner, that, no, that is actually quite accurate. Mm-hmm. That is good. Sometimes when I see you, I'm like, oh, does that meant feral mean? To be fair,

Sarah Frey:

do you have a single blade of grass in your yard? Yes. Yeah,

Dan Hoffman:

because it's all. Raised beds and stuff. Right.

Mike Neese:

There's, there's an appropriate amount of grass. You have

Dan Hoffman:

bees

Mike Neese:

grass. Yes.

Dan Hoffman:

So, real quick, for the people out there who are trying to develop their green thumb mm-hmm. And this, and then I'll let you go right now. Okay. It's starting to get a little warmer. What should people be focusing on in their garden?

Mike Neese:

Well for me, uh, it's your above ground plants, but getting ready for your bulbs, tubers, uh, that'll be your next step to go in. But composting, this is a perfect time. If you don't have that pile going. Mm-hmm. There you go. Perfect. Time to get it started. Need a starter? Uh, contact us down at public works. Uh, we do have the leaf compost from previous years leaf collection. That's a good starter and additive. You got your grass clippings. There you go. Yeah. Great time.

Sarah Frey:

The only reason he has grass.

Dan Hoffman:

That's right. Right. So there you go. Compost folks. It's the perfect time of year for it. I was hoping you would say that. You know what else? It's

Mike Neese:

perfect time of year for if you're not, if you've started composting, you know, you get that next level going and that's your verma posting. You get your worm towers started. Mm-hmm.

Dan Hoffman:

Yeah.

Mike Neese:

Now where you've got your yard waste as well as your, uh, household waste.

Dan Hoffman:

See, there you go. Now's the time, folks, and you can get that starter over at Public Services. Just call up the Solid waste folks over there.

Mike Neese:

Yeah, any of us down there would be fine.

Dan Hoffman:

And then, then we'll hook you up. All right. Thank you very much, Mike. Hey, thank you. Good seeing you. I'll work on getting the ring. Excellent. Thanks for joining us on a, uh, another edition of the ROS review. Uh, next time we already have a guest lined up, uh, fire and Rescue Chief Drew Savage, the fire chief with the coolest name in all the Commonwealth, drew Savage. Uh, he no relation to Fred. Savage or what was Fred Savage's brother Ben, Ben Savage.

Sarah Frey:

Not, not a boy mates world fan.

Dan Hoffman:

No, no. I was more a Wonder years guy. So, uh, no old Fred Savage plus people when I was a kid used to say, oh, you look just like Fred Savage.

Oh, now no one

Dan Hoffman:

says that.'cause I'm bald. But no even cooler than both of them is our new Fire Chief Drew Savage. Uh, we're gonna talk to him next. Uh, he is been in town now for, Ooh. Just a little over two weeks, so, uh, hear what he has to say. Uh, learn a little bit more about him. Uh, and until this time, next time, until next time, I will see you run City Hall.