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#58. Brian Papstein's Broadcast Legacy: Shaping Humboldt's Airwaves, Celebrating Sports Culture, and Embracing Community Resilience
Ever wondered how a family's legacy can shape an entire community's radio landscape? Brian Papstein takes us through the colorful history of Humboldt County's broadcasting world, sharing tales from his family's storied involvement in the industry. We discuss memorable broadcasting moments, from KSFO's impactful coverage of West Coast sports—remember the Giants and 49ers?—to Family Friendly Baseball initiatives that created a unique radio culture. Brian shares insights into iconic sports broadcasters, like Lon Simmons, and their indelible impact on sports and community engagement.
Reflecting on the changes in local sports culture, we share personal anecdotes about the evolution of the "Talk Shop" show, which has offered a platform for unedited and unbiased storytelling since 1982. We reminisce about our connections with memorable figures like John Madden and the challenges faced by local sports, including Humboldt State's removal of its football team. Our talk show format embraces a community-driven atmosphere, treating listeners as co-hosts in a space where laughter is more common than confrontation.
Finally, we explore the nuances of our radio show format, emphasizing the importance of interviews over listener calls to keep conversations fresh. We highlight AM radio's crucial role during emergencies, especially when digital communication fails, and reflect on local figures who've contributed to community resilience. Tune in for authentic dialogues, engaging stories, and even a playful quiz offering a sweet reward. It's a testament to the reliability of AM radio and the spirit of Humboldt County's community.
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Ladies and gentlemen, friends and neighbors, Scott Hammond, 100% Humboldt with my new best friend. What do you mean? 100%? You weren't growing up, you didn't grow up here. I did not. Brian Papstein, hi, brian Hi.
Speaker 2:No, I'm 100%.
Speaker 1:You are 100%. Yeah, we'll review your background and your pedigree momentarily. It won't take long. You know, I felt like I did a lot of growing after I came up to Humboldt State at 18, at a tender age.
Speaker 1:That typically happens once you get out of high school. Yeah, I think I did my growing up here, my raising of a family, so let's review your pedigree. Okay, bring it on baby. Were you born at General? No, st Joe's, st Joe's, my bad. Ted Loring, ted, dr. Ted he's legendary. Is Ted he's Dr? Ted, dr he's legendary. Is he still living? No, no.
Speaker 2:No, he was 20 years ago, maybe, ted.
Speaker 1:Jr is still around. Okay, I know there's a luring yeah, so tell us about. Let's go through your school pedigree again. So did you go to Worthington?
Speaker 2:Worthington Zane.
Speaker 1:Eureka.
Speaker 2:High Humboldt for three years. Doan in Nebraska for a year. Where's Doan? In what town? Crete, crete, southwest of Lincoln. It's a town about the size of Ferndale.
Speaker 1:So you're a Husker fan.
Speaker 2:Not particularly no.
Speaker 1:Okay, more of a duck.
Speaker 2:Uh, college doesn't really I don't. I root for players.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Not teams other than the Warriors probably probably is the one team that I'm most connected with, if you will, Warriors are awesome. Yeah, Love the Warriors Well they screwed up and let Clay out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did. That's too bad, tell me about so. You came back to Humboldt. You went there, you got your degree. Came back Degree no, oh. But you came back to Humboldt. You went there, you got your degree.
Speaker 2:Came back Degree no, you came back to Humboldt, Proudly no Four classes away.
Speaker 1:From oh okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're all DEI, so you can imagine how excited I would be to take those classes.
Speaker 1:I think Wesley Chesbrough is in your same deal. He's got like three classes. I thought I liked him to a certain extent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's, of course you do, hi, wes Hi.
Speaker 1:Wes. No, I like that. So you came back and then worked for Dad at the radio station.
Speaker 2:Yeah, came back to the shop?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you do. Speaking of the shop, do you see the segue that's happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really hard to follow you. Yeah, are you tracking?
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm just making it easy for you. So Brian's family has been part of the radio business for a century.
Speaker 2:Well, grandpa was not that old 58 is when he came out and bought it. Okay, but before that he was jingle writing. So he's part of the radio industry but not in ownership.
Speaker 1:Third generation, so Kins Radio.
Speaker 2:Kika Kins, k-e-k-a, and then Easy Radios. Is what KWSW is? Is that AM now, and with an FM translator?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so most of it's on the 95.5.
Speaker 1:So if I was a print guy which I was I would have ink in my veins. What do radio guys have?
Speaker 2:in their veins. Mental deficiencies. What do you think?
Speaker 1:Well, there's that. So would you tend to go after or follow sports teams that you guys would rebroadcast or that you broadcast that we were affiliated with? Yeah, you had the Oakland A's right.
Speaker 2:We were with the A's when grandpa purchased. It was right at the time when the Giants and Dodgers came out to the West Coast.
Speaker 1:Oh right.
Speaker 2:So that was an easy one, and the 49ers had just moved into the NFL from the old AAFC.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:So that became. At that point they were starting to do network, to do network. Prior to that you can go back and some of the old baseball stuff, like in the 30s when President Reagan was doing the recreations You'd have 60, 70, 80 radio stations. They are each broadcasting their own signal from the ballpark instead of having one and then having the network.
Speaker 2:So the network concept started in the 50s and KSFO was the one on the West Coast that had the Giants and we hooked up with them. And that's where we initially started with Lon Simmons and Bill King. They were both on the baseball side and then Lon was doing the football because he was the sports director at KSFO.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:As maybe a 25-year-old. 26-year-old he went, he cut his teeth in Marysville KUBA. A buddy of mine owned it for a period of time, so it kind of sticks.
Speaker 1:Next to Yuba City.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, and then moved into, got hired at San Francisco and the Stoneham family about two months later said we're coming to San Francisco and he was the sports guy at KSFO and they hooked it and they had Russ Hodges came out with them and Scully decided to stay back at least for a year or two, Didn't, didn't come to the West coast and so it was lawn was the number two chair and that began his Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1:Vince Scully would later come to the Dodgers. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then we were with the Giants through 1980. And then at that point that's when the Walter Haas family most people know him as Levi Strauss bought the A's and ran them and they brought Lon and Bill, they reunited those two guys and they started this thing called Family Friendly Baseball, so where the Giants were having fights in candlesticks, parking lots, the A's were having no smoking areas and they had the gourmet foods and they said you know no off color, and it was. It was very, very different, very different culture.
Speaker 2:And then you know, they had Ricky and started winning and it just started rolling.
Speaker 1:And then it kind of flipped and then it was dangerous to go to a Raiders game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, raiders, yeah, raiders. We didn't pick up until, oh, 10 years ago maybe, huh, something along those lines. It was when they had come back to Oakland from Los Angeles. And I'm driving around, this was after buying from mom and dad. And I'm driving around, this was after buying from mom and dad. And just seeing the amount of bumper stickers and merchandise, raiders are still the number one. I believe they're still the number one merchandise selling NFL franchise. Okay, now you may argue why the colors are so popular and that's a whole different topic, followed by the Yankees.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right now you betcha. Yankees are big overseas, right, but they're not football.
Speaker 2:I digress Right right. And so there's a lot of following and we said, well, okay, if there's a following, there's going to be some folks that either the TV broadcasts aren't going to be available or they're not available to those individuals, and why not us? So we picked them up. The same concept with the Warriors. The timing has been when we reaffiliated with the Giants, that's when it was the first year of their, I think, five seasons when they won three championships.
Speaker 2:It was a fairly tight window, and then we hooked up with the Warriors and kind of had the same magic Didn't quite carry into the Raiders so far, but still holding hope.
Speaker 1:We're rebuilding again.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just, you know, sports is fun, it's destination listening. It's something that people are interested in, either for advertising their businesses or for listening Sure, and it's part of radio. You know the whole theater of the mind thing. Oh yeah, that's where it is. So the spoken word is really kind of where we have cut our teeth for a long, long, long time and then it's been interesting for me, scott at least, is that the music that we're playing on 95.5 is what we grew up with, right, I mean 70s-based format and there's a lot of youngers, 30s they're listening.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:What's going? You're listening to your grandparents' music, but it's pretty cool. But, yeah, you can understand the words. You can say the words. In mixed company there's not feedback all the time, right, and there's this thing called good sounding music and it just has. It's been intriguing for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's funny. Joni and I will go back and listen to Bread or the Carpenters. I haven't quite got to Bobby Sherman or the Partridge Family.
Speaker 2:That's back a little bit further. You're kind of off the main trail there, but these are people we hated as young rock and roll guys.
Speaker 1:Oh, we would deride them all day. Beach Boys.
Speaker 2:I bet you that was on your hit list.
Speaker 1:We're going to go see the Beach Boys Saturday at Cal Poly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's something really cool about it. And then, because it's kind of a free-flowing format, I have music consultants that we use for the two music stations and we just came off of the summer beach weekend and we'll do that from mid-May through, well till summer ends, right. So the third weekend in September and November for us, yeah. And then in there's a I don't know if it's called a phenomenon or not, but there's a reality that Christmas music is really something that people look for. I mean, you were talking, you know, Pat Boone and Bing Crosby. I had a discussion with a buddy of mine and I asked her what her favorite Christmas movie was and she's a little bit younger than I and she said Elf what? Elf? Holiday and White Christmas, right, Bing and Danny. And yeah, and it's like how do you top that?
Speaker 2:It's a wonderful life. I mean, that was, that was number two for me, those were the. But you get into those different age groups and everybody has what was what they were growing up with. You know the Grinch, but the animated Grinch, not Jim Carrey Grinch, but the animated Grinch, not Jim Carrey Grinch. Yeah, frosty is Frosty.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, with Burl Ives.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, rankin, something, rankin, or the guys, right, right, that's real. The other stuff is.
Speaker 1:But Elf.
Speaker 2:I remember seeing it in the theater at Bayshore Mall. I have a very difficult time with certain things, and one of them is people playing stupid. That's a whole base reference of that movie and it's like okay, fine, if you like it, then I'll be quiet.
Speaker 1:That has a name. It's men that are incompetent and not to be confused with incontinent that could result. Have some more water, buddy. I better chug that water. I was going to ask the sports question. In growing up in this industry, were you able to meet some of those guys or the players and go down and skybox it up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the A's were really tremendous when we were with them and we were with them for 30-something years and they were great teams, oh and fun. But it was family-oriented. So we had four season tickets, four boxes, spring training trip, cool. We had a Skybox, so we took the sponsors down for that.
Speaker 1:Scottsdale or somewhere. No, no in Oakland, Okay Spring training, oh, spring training.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was in Phoenix at that time. Phoenix area.
Speaker 2:At Phoenix, muni, and then they had the caravan. So they would Steinbach was up here a couple of times, bordick was here, billy was up here a couple of times, bordick was here, billy Kruger, you know they would bring Ray Fossey would be with them and they would kind of touch spend a half day in each market that they were doing. So we would take them out to like Freshwater Elementary School, a couple of elementary schools, and let them see, you know, and talk to the kids and that kind of stuff, and then have a lunch and then hit the road and go over to Redding.
Speaker 1:Is this off season?
Speaker 2:It would be like the week before reporting for spring training. Okay, so Stiney would be in the area anyway, coming out from Minnesota, and then they would do that, and we got Mike Davis, who was a right fielder for them, back when they weren't all that good. The mid-80s he came up, the A's donated I forget how much $10,000 maybe to one of the ballparks up in McKinleyville, very nice. And he came up and we kind of had a little whoop-de-whoop about it. So they were very community-oriented before. It was cool.
Speaker 1:Who was the Raiders coach that wouldn't fly? Oh, John Madden.
Speaker 2:Would Madden ever do any sort of Well, he had been with CBS for a number of years before we affiliated.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, he was already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they had their spring training. Preseason training was always in Santa Rosa, that's right, yeah. They would stay down there. I never got down there to see that before they moved their camp.
Speaker 1:The Niners were out in.
Speaker 2:Rockland, the Davis kids. Yeah, now we did. When Macaulay and I were doing College of the Redwoods football, we would play American River, oh fuck, and we were up in the scaffolding. It was a little weird, but that's where they would put the cameras and the scouts, the scouting coaches, and it was right there. That was the field. I don't know where the kids play now or not, and that was Billy and I were talking about that last time he was on the show.
Speaker 1:So Bill used to be an announcer.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:How many seasons did he do that? We did about 10. That's HSU football, no CR CR football.
Speaker 2:CR Corsairs. Yeah, we kind of got thrown out. Well, we didn't get thrown out, we left Humboldt State. Okay, it was, you have so much inventory that you can sell on a broadcast. Well, they wanted half of it.
Speaker 1:Oh wow.
Speaker 2:Well, when you're barely covering the nut to do the whole thing you're doing as a community service, you lose half.
Speaker 1:Now you really are a nonprofit.
Speaker 2:I don't well, yeah, either it's a nonprofit, or I come knocking on your door and say, hey, scott, the thing that was a buck last year, it's two and a half this year. Because yeah, yeah, yeah. So that kind of blew up and we went out and Billy's dad.
Speaker 1:Jim was the first football coach out there and did extraordinarily well.
Speaker 2:So he had connections there and we knew At CR. Yeah, I think Fred Whitmire, who was the head coach at the time, was one of Jim's assistants.
Speaker 1:He's also somebody that dad taught in Pop Warner Is that right? He's a nice guy. White tornadoes I met him just a few years ago. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So there's all that intertwining and stuff.
Speaker 1:It's true. Sports does that Even at Humboldt. It cuts across everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that's why a lot of people lamented the past president's decision to get rid of the football team Lamented is light. That's a nice way to say it. Yeah, well, you know, they're still talking about maybe bringing it back If they created a rodeo team, so back to Talk Shop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, I could force a segue or not. Does this feel like a forced segue to you, nick? So, brian, you've done this show called Talk Shop, for you said about 42 years Started first.
Speaker 2:Monday in April in 82.
Speaker 1:And we're looking at number 11,000 coming up. Which is it you? Okay, that's higher math. Yeah, we think it's pretty close.
Speaker 2:I don't go there, but I'll spot you. You play with numbers more than I do 10K plus.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of interviews. Yeah, I guess, introduce us to the format and the idea of the show and 101 just real quick.
Speaker 2:The basic concept of it is. Early on I got and. Dad kind of echoed it, also frustrated at the local news media editing.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm stories, you know, to reflect their personal biases. Gee, have things changed? Not really. And so you know, you'd have a 15-minute interview and at that time there was local news on the multiple TV station and what was edited would either be taken out of context or wouldn't be the full story, and then the newsprint which existed at that time also would either selectively edit or misquote, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, there was a little frustration and so we thought, well, okay, let's just kind of open it up, let these guys talk, you know, and whatever it is that they want to talk about is whatever it is that they want to talk about, and we'll let folks hear unedited, this topic discussion story, whatever it might happen to be. And that was it.
Speaker 2:It's been intriguing to me, gosh, do I want to say, over the decades. I guess it is People's responses to it, reactions to it, not the listener, necessarily, but and I kind of, I position them as a co-host in my mind. You know, it's their show. I hit the brakes, it's their show. So this morning is Bob, tomorrow it's June, the next day it's Amanda, whatever it is, it's their show, it's their show. So, you know, and the prep on it is less than what we had for this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the music starts. We go in and say what's happening, what are people talking to you about? And if we get in there a little tardy then I say that on the air. So it's 30 minutes and we just go 30-minute show. I think the content's 35, 36, something like that, with a break in there somewhere. Yeah, we got the four breaks, or four segments rather, so we can either hit multiple topics or just one extended and just turn them loose. I enjoy doing it because I can't let my little kid out. That's the shopping show. But for a talk shop I can let myself out a little bit and have fun and laugh, and a lot of times these folks don't get that opportunity to share their personality out in the market.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:And that, to me, is part of the fun. You know, we don't take ourselves too serious, but then if you say something stupid, I am going to come after you. Sure, that's your duty, but in either a lighthearted way or I might even correct you. Scott, really you really think that Allstate is no? Oh no, scott, really you really?
Speaker 1:think that all state is no, oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:No, the earth is flat.
Speaker 2:No, that's all stars, not all state. Oh okay, we laugh and we move on. There you go, you know, rather than anything else. So that's kind of what the premise of it was. But I find it intriguing as all get out, because we've had people from, obviously, the locals, but regionals and nationals, and they're always waiting for where's the nail and the hammer that you're going to try to tack my hide to the wall.
Speaker 1:The zinger and it's like no.
Speaker 2:No, why would anybody?
Speaker 1:want to do that. So you would have like a statewide candidate that was in town, perhaps campaigning, or I can remember.
Speaker 2:Wilson Riles, when he was Okay, he's a name. When he was, and it was over, and he said that's it. And I said yeah. He said well, that was kind of fun. I said, okay, thanks, I appreciate you coming in that kind of stuff. He said can I ask you a question? I said sure. He said, well, why didn't you go after me? I said because that's not what this show is. Right, you know the Santa Rosa market, which is the one that he was most familiar with coming north. You have their hosts that are trying to climb the ladder Right Making a name. Yeah, right. So they all sacrifice principles, ethics, morals to try to get that one thing that they can put on their demo tape and then shoot it out and see how good I am and I can get no, that's not me, that's not us, that's not our station, that's not our community.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe it is a community name anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's not. What was it? Casey at the Bat, I like it. That's not my style, that's good, not my style. We have fun. But Rush was here, Bruce Williams, when he was alive. I hit some names Lon, Recently we've had the kids who work with me, One in DC who's the engineer for the Giants, so we've done four or five with Darren and it's just back and forth giggle, laugh and talk about whatever's happening.
Speaker 1:I know who Lon is, but Lon who From where? Oh Simmons From?
Speaker 2:He's dead, yeah, so from the afterlife, but he's an announcer for oh, for the Giants and the A's and the 49ers A lot of folks might know.
Speaker 1:Hall of Famer, hall of Famer. Announcer. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You want to get me going, talk to me about the Ford Frick presentation at the Hall of Fame. It is so embarrassing, really. Yeah, Three by five cards. They don't even get plaques.
Speaker 1:We'll save that one for the next show. Yeah, oh yeah yeah, there'll be a note going out on that one. Yeah, we'll talk about that after the show. Fair enough, so 10,000, almost 11,000 interviews, some of them repeat. So you've had Macaulay, you've had Dalby.
Speaker 2:Oh, we have regulars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who are the regulars? Who stands out? I know you can't really say favorites, but you might have some cool stories, some shows are favorites?
Speaker 2:Who's?
Speaker 1:regular. Let's start there.
Speaker 2:Who's regular. That's right up there with who's normal. So we've had I'll use titles initially Sure, that's fine. So we have Eureka Police Chief. I think nine or 10 of them. You've had a lot of chiefs over the years. Yeah, billy, who is a CPA, but also, just as a guy who's a local that has commentary about what's going on, great guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wednesdays are always the supervisors on a rotational basis, so you have all five. No, arroyo said no, really First time in 40 plus years that a supervisor refused. Well, no, I have to go back. Harry Pritchard initially didn't participate because he had a severe speech impediment and he was very conscientious of that.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. Does Natalie have anything like that? No, okay, just can't do it.
Speaker 2:Just doesn't, has chosen not to.
Speaker 1:I met Michelle Bushnell, sat with her at the Land Conservancy dinner the other night. Yeah, michelle's, I like Michelle. She's cool, regular, regular. Her husband's a super nice guy. Yeah, yeah, for a rancher. For for Hear that rancher. Yeah, no, what a what a great. Great those guys Just good guys.
Speaker 2:Let's see Thursday, depending on what week it is. Billy.
Speaker 1:Hansel and Stacey Eades, she's the DA. Yes, yes, and Billy Sheriff.
Speaker 2:Hey, bill, city managers, We've got Eureka, arcata and Fortuna, and then if they're not there, then they'll send a department head or somebody else. Miles is pretty cool. Yeah, you mentioned Albie already, so John's on Jana Valikovic, who probably is one that a lot of folks are unfamiliar with.
Speaker 1:What does she do?
Speaker 2:She runs the UC Cooperative Extension out at Spruce Point.
Speaker 2:Oh, right yeah the forest advisor, who is recognized statewide and nationally as being something of significance. So it's cool that we've got a lot of those types of treasures in our area. Yeah, and nobody would ever know about them except for something like this. So she'll send in some of the other troops if she's out of town or too busy. Let's see. The provost at Humboldt is a recent ad. Jen is probably two years with us CHP, because they have different challenges than what the other law enforcement agencies have.
Speaker 1:Is there a local chief of some sort for CHP?
Speaker 2:There's an area commander, that's what they call them Gotcha. Yeah, but he sends. You know, the PR guys are the ones that will typically come in, come out. Yeah yeah, fire chief for Humboldt Bay Fire Gone through. I don't know nine or ten of those guys. Good guys, you had Gillespie probably. Yeah, billy was there after Kent left, and then Sean recently is going out to work at the CR and develop a fire academy out there. So Tim and I was stepping in.
Speaker 1:Is this the same Sean whose dad is Frank Toste, my next door neighbor? His dad was fire chief in Arcata. Right Sean, yeah, no, uh, sean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, sean uh Robertson. I wonder if it's the same one. I don't. I should know he grew up in South Africa. Oh, probably not.
Speaker 1:Unlikely, we'll go with a no on that.
Speaker 2:Way to go there. And then we we have a couple of built-ins-ins that are rotational, so right now we've got oh, we did have Cody until from the airport. He was a fun one, so we've got a little bit of an opening there. We've got superintendents of schools and Paul from St Bernard's, so we've got Eureka, as well as Michael from the county office. He's a great guy.
Speaker 1:He's got his own podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know he keeps threatening to bring me in. I said are you sure you want to class up the place that much?
Speaker 1:Hear that, Michael.
Speaker 2:And then Rob Barkley.
Speaker 1:Sure, I've got to have Rob in there. Yeah, is he a regular?
Speaker 2:Yeah, last Monday of each month. Okay, he's in, and then Winston will put those up on the website by 10, 10, 15.
Speaker 1:Are these video as well?
Speaker 2:No, Heck, no, yeah, no One. You've heard the phrase. Got a great face for radio, yeah, so that's Sorry to steal. There's a truism in that one.
Speaker 1:So we'll just kind of be there. What do you do, this in your jammies?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's just you know some people are more concerned about their looks than others, and the thing that people will ask about is how can we hear what is talked about during the commercial breaks? That's it you will never hear what's talked about during the commercial breaks. But a lot of times we'll come back laughing or have references to those discussions, right?
Speaker 1:That becomes the mystery of the show. Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2:The most challenging ones. There were two that I can recall offhand. The first one was Irv Renner, who was the first district supervisor, was the first soup who was in in the first week. He knew dad, uh-huh, yeah, who's his kid, who's the kid? Had no clue and he was used to getting misquoted by media. Huh.
Speaker 1:He came in jaded.
Speaker 2:Well, let's just say his experience showed so. For that entire show, everything was yes, no, oh man. Everything Pulling teeth, oh, baby, you know. And of course I didn't have anything to draw back on being 22. Yeah, you don't know anything. That was a tough one. Where's?
Speaker 1:the first district.
Speaker 2:He realized we were having fun normal stuff. That was a tough one. Where's the first district? He realized we were having fun, normal stuff and he opened up, as much as at that time the supervisors, danny Walsh and Wes Chesbrough, and it was like, okay, I say good morning, boom, they're good for five minutes. Now we got to take a break, guys. Yeah, there was like three questions that I would throw into each show and they just ran, which still is kind of funny when I see Danny every once in a while Again their show, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So, Irv kind of loosened up a little bit and things were okay after that.
Speaker 1:I heard Danny was a good football player. Is that correct? Oh, he's a stud.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he played a lot. A lot of the Walshes were.
Speaker 1:He went to the state championship right. A lot of the Walshes were. He went to the state championship right. Yeah, or whatever poinsettia.
Speaker 2:They all went through SB and then I think he was on the Camillia Bowl team. Camillia Bowl For Humboldt State. Yeah, there were a number of them. Two or three of his brothers also played at Humboldt how about that. Huh, yeah, yeah, eureka kids.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, Eureka kids, Okay. So outstanding moments. Let's do that For our quiz today. For one free Dick Taylor chocolate bar.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're going to ask me, or I'm going to ask you. No, you're not going to ask me anything. My show Fine, be that way. Hit the brakes.
Speaker 1:So I guess outstanding memories from 11,000. It's almost unfair. You could probably talk for two hours. I mean, what was the biggest jaw-dropping surprise? And then we'll diminish from there.
Speaker 2:Surprise guest that maybe dropped a bomb. Yeah, most of it, it's all conversational, so it's not like Was it revelatory, you save up. It's. For me, there are two things that will probably stand out over the years. Whenever I guess maybe when I hit 50 years with this thing or something First appearance I can tell if it's a good show or not I do a palm check when they come in. What is that? Sweaty palm? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:How are your palms doing? You okay, pretty dry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, are you nervous or not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you start to see them.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, some will hold their hands down, or? Be, under the counter, or I mean there's all those types of public speaking tricks that you can learn um. But when they're done, they say well, that was fast. Huh, yeah, that wasn't bad, that was nice, that was hey, can I come back?
Speaker 1:okay, that was like the fun ride at the carnival, because there's conversation.
Speaker 2:You know, and that's one of the things I'm going to. Please See this. These are questions that he had, probably of me and anybody I come in Hold. Still, I want to read my question. This is my notepad. Yeah, literally I like it Lesson learned Date and who it is, so that we can track it for our FCC reporting stuff. Sure, and that's it. There we go and we just have conversation and talk. I love it and most don't. Most interviewers don't. This was something Jim Bohannon and I had had some conversation with. You're listening to them. If you have a list of questions, you're interrogating them, not talking with them. This is a talk, this is interview, this is conversation, organic. This is fun, genuine, go with it. So that's one thing I know if I've done well, they go. Oh, we're done.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So that was one of them Wait.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, I have a question to ask.
Speaker 2:Sure, I can hold your leg. So the first time through, then they kind of understand what's going on.
Speaker 1:And if it went quick, they had a good experience Okay.
Speaker 2:And I'm not. They most have heard the program, some haven't, so they kind of understand my personality.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And and some haven't. So they kind of understand my personality. Sure, and what is? Pretty much anything goes within the large boundaries, yeah. So we sit around, we giggle, we have fun, it's good, and we start with our day. Well, you relax people, yeah, I guess yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel pretty relaxed. The other thing Did you want to ask me some questions?
Speaker 2:The other element and this it sounds self-aggrandizing and it's not meant to be, but I'm sure some people take it and spin with it. When you know Rush, I did like I don't know three or four with him and with Bruce five or six times and they we know Rush. Bruce is Bruce Williams, who was Infamous talk show Part of TalkNet, the whole resurgence of the spoken word format.
Speaker 1:He was certainly at the front end of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was driving that ship, him and Larry King.
Speaker 2:How many years did Bruce do it? Well, he started a station in New Brunswick, new Jersey, and then he got into WABC Sunday nights and somebody didn't show up and he got a job, got a call Said hey, can you come in tonight and do? It was just financial acumen, I mean, it was nothing political at all, at least initially it wasn't. And he got the calls and they started paying attention. And then NBC talk NBC at that time existed, now it doesn't. And then they decided that they wanted to get into the spoken word as well as the music formats for syndication. Then it was he and Sally. Jesse Raphael were the nighttime. She was a big deal, yeah, until she kind of went off the deep end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's got interesting.
Speaker 2:But that was kind of where Bruce came from and they just said and again, it's not. I always feel uncomfortable with compliments.
Speaker 1:Please share. This is back to the self-aggrandizement. Yes, yes, I can aggrandize you.
Speaker 2:They said that this, that I was one of the best interviewers that they had ever come upon. Wow, high compliment. And you that I could go national, huh, and if I had interest, they would hook me up, so to speak. Sure, it's like no, no, no, no, I'm a humble kid. I'm Eureka. I grew up in Myrtle Town. I'm going to stay in Eureka. This is it.
Speaker 1:But thanks for the compliment. That's cool, well, and those are people that could make it happen.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, oh, they had the connections at that time, the radio conventions, the presidents of, and we knew them because we had been with CBS for 60-plus years. So there's Dick Brescia, one of the VPs. Okay, hi, dick, how are you doing that kind of relationship? And it could have happened, but at what cost? Right, right, no, no, there's too much to do here. Got to save home before you can save everybody else there's an amen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do Humboldt Heroes. Somebody goes why don't you do the hero celebration for veterans? Make it bigger, let's go statewide. And I go why would you wreck it? Yeah, it's designed to be organic and small.
Speaker 2:Let Mendocino do Mendocino and Trinity do Trinity and let everybody do their own thing. Yeah, everything doesn't have to grow to be successful.
Speaker 1:Correct yeah, Sometimes we think size is growth is, that's the macho attitude, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2:If one's good, four's got to be four times as good.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit American Western at least. Yeah, Anyway.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's kind of the back story, and the other element of the show that I think that I personally go to the mat on is no callers, callers, no callers. You mean these? Yeah, some days I bet you'll never know. Callers, we don't have the cameras in the studio. Wait.
Speaker 1:Did you?
Speaker 2:say callers or callers, I said both. Yes, okay, it's kind of like Peyton Manning you got that one Good, I get that Because these guys come in with topic and there had been a local show for a short period of time when we started and you need to have about a quarter million people to have a broad enough population to have a variety of callers that aren't the same ones all the time talking about the same thing over and over, and to be able to screen them and do the proper mix for a talk show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't have it. It'd be the same guys gals, and that's what was going on, and so you know you'd be talking about insurance and somebody would call up and want to talk about dog training. Yeah, what, wait a minute, what? Yeah, and it would be the same person calling about dog training.
Speaker 1:Reminds me of supervisor Two, three times a week. Supervisor meetings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same speakers, right, yeah, yeah. Except they would also then tend to come from a point of business ownership. So they just saw it as free exposure oh how nice. Ownership so they just saw it as free exposure, oh how nice. And it's like no get away, no, so it was I.
Speaker 1:I that's pretty bold actually. Yeah, well that it starts with the right letter.
Speaker 2:Have you heard about my sporting goods show? Yeah, exactly what size do you want? Yeah, or what size do you have? Take your pick. So we just went with interviews and that allowed you know if we're talking about whatever we're talking about you can kind of pace and get what you want out, rather than having to deal with the wingnut call or somebody that's way off topic or somebody who's like me and goes, and it takes four minutes to ask a 10-second question. Sure, that's fine, whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think it's worked out.
Speaker 1:I think the interview format is cool, you're not cutting this out of the programming for any reason. No, yeah, I don't hear anything's going, hey, no no, and that's. Have you tweaked it a little bit over time?
Speaker 2:It's bounced around in times. You know we started in the eight o'clock in the morning weekdays and that's where we are now. But then we we did was a med vet I think at the time before he had his cancer and those challenges. If we could take a third of the audience that we had in the morning and take it at 3 o'clock, it would double the afternoon audience at that time.
Speaker 1:How about that?
Speaker 2:Okay, so sacrifice the lamb, I don't care. Did you rebroadcast, is that? How about that? Okay so, sacrifice the lamb, I don't care. Did you rebroadcast? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no, we just extended the news block in the morning.
Speaker 1:I see.
Speaker 2:And then did it in the afternoon. Now it's strictly morning, Is that correct? Yeah, it's just mornings now. It's easier for the folks to come in and start their day with us, rather than and remember oh geez, what time is it? Oh, and then have to sprint.
Speaker 1:At this point I would ask you to call out the call sign and the time so kids are at K-I-N-S yeah, fm 106.3 is the dial position. So you know it because you're used to it, but people might 106.3 on the FM dial.
Speaker 2:It's really weird, scott. Some people know us as the call letters, some of us, some are known as the dial position, music or spoken word, and others then know it as whatever the positioner is. So like Kika could be KEK, it could be 101 Country or 100.9, or it could be Thunder Country.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and everybody kind of has their own area that they fit into A lot of brands. Yeah, and everybody kind of has their own area that they fit into A lot of brands. Yeah Well, I don't know if a dial position is a brand or not, but reference points what a one might be. Same thing with Easy. So the call letters are KWSW. Okay, and that's something mom came up with. It's the initials, the first initial of the first four grandkids.
Speaker 1:Oh right, it just worked out that way, perfect.
Speaker 2:Okay, and some know it as either 980 or 95.5, but most reference it now is easy.
Speaker 1:And that'll go to Christmas format or the holidays All Christmas on the 18th.
Speaker 2:It's the Monday the week before Thanksgiving. Perfect, that's where we go Now. Some people will be starting on the 1st of November.
Speaker 1:And some in September.
Speaker 2:It's what we do do this year. Stephan, my youngest, came up with the concept in Christmas, in July, so and I happened to take I don't know if you've met my middle brother or not, but Kurt was born in the middle of July. I know Kurt, okay. So he was born on the 17th. That was the middle day of the week, of the middle week of the month, so that's the day and we go 24-hour Christmas on that one day. Oh, that's funny, just to kind of throw a little something out there, because there's an amazing amount of people that just really like the traditional Christmas music I do.
Speaker 1:Who doesn't love?
Speaker 2:Christmas All the time, you know, like we had had out at—by the cookhouse, which is probably starting to date us also. Oh, the gift shop, it was a Christmas store. Yeah, we 12 months of the year, your family, no, no, no. We as a community, oh, yeah, had that. That's long gone, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, that was a cool little store.
Speaker 2:I know, okay, yeah, and there's a couple of places, places down on the wharf in San Francisco that Are Christmas all the time. I think they still are. I remember those. Right now I'm boycotting San Francisco, so I'm not-.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The kids took me to a ball game. First game with the Giants since 78.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we took the ferry in, so I didn't have to drive.
Speaker 1:That's cool. That's the way to go.
Speaker 2:They took me, but they didn't force me to break my vows, so to speak.
Speaker 1:I was never driving to that city again, brought the ferry in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's just so many reasons why. So I've not been down to the Fisherman's Wharf in a long, long time. The Giants got beat by the Padres, but part of what we were able to do was to go up and see the guys.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2:So that was fun for the kids. I've got a buddy who has a station in Pittsburgh. He lives in Pittsburgh, his station is in Du Bois who's a Pirate affiliate, and we went in coming off of a convention this spring I got to see Paul Skeens, who was extraordinary.
Speaker 2:I mean he's a pirate yeah, he's the kid from LSU that just throws BBs. I mean, he's like once a decade kind of player like Otani is for the Dodgers, he is for the Pirates. And then we went up and got to see the Pirates broadcasters who I don't recognize at all. But we also went next door and saw DC and the guys for the Giants. So you know, for a radio guy to go into the broadcast booth, I'm looking at all the gear. Kids are looking at the announcers. I don't need the announcers. Show me the gear. I want to see the new stuff. Yeah, show me your mixer board. Look at that. That's exciting. That's cool. The microphones and the headsets, that's cool. How do you place your crowd mics? Mm-hmm? Yeah, wow, all the nerd stuff. Oh, it's— it's all nerded.
Speaker 1:I mean I love that, yeah, yeah. So that was kind of a kick. So more amazing stuff around Talk Shop please, any other, anything that floored you, or any surprise. I don't know about surprises or bombs or flooring, but what about grave disappointments?
Speaker 2:Anything that stands out, as did anybody ever bring an animal?
Speaker 1:No, how about Corky Cornwell? Did he ever come in the studio? No, cork never did.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean he did to do recordings, but not to do a show. Sure, yeah, I don't know. I'm sure that there must have been, but it's. You know, the expectation is let's sit down, giggle a little bit, fill the time, hit the commercial breaks and start our day. It's not doing fluff here.
Speaker 2:So it's not. You know the guys that try to turn it into self-promotional Kel Worthington. Well, okay, that's that LA thing out of you. I don't know, I'm 100% humbled. Oh, okay, you stepped in that pile, didn't you? There you have it, yeah. Okay, you stepped in that pile, didn't?
Speaker 1:you. There you have it. So for those of you from Humboldt, he was a salesman, a car dealer that was on TV a lot and he'd bring his dog Spot, which was usually anything from a giraffe to a zebra, to a water buffalo, to an actual lion, and he would sell cars. And so he actually got so big he's got dealerships for a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I recognize he's a big dealer.
Speaker 1:Go see Cal. Yeah sure you betcha. Sorry to reduce him to that. That was his life.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's you know. That's to me the cool part is. Well, I had somebody, what was it? Somebody's parent, that's it. Okay, one of our folks her mom's current husband, so stepdad had a friend came in and grandpa wrote the Winston jingle. Okay, so he came in and I guess he was made aware of that fact. So he came in Hi, how you doing? And I said is it true? I said yeah, yeah. He said how did it go? I said Winston tastes good and he finished it. Okay, it's been 53 years since that's been broadcast. Oh, yeah, it's still in there. Huh, that to me is cool. That's you know, when we were younger I don't know if you remember or not, but up here it was a big deal when McDonald's came out with the Big Mac.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and they had the jingle To all beef patties Special sauce lettuce cheese, pickles onions on a sesame seed bun, pasta. Lettuce cheese, pickles onions on a sesame seed bun. Say it in 20 seconds and you get a free Big Mac. You did that promotion for two years and you get a free Big Mac.
Speaker 1:That was a free Big Mac.
Speaker 2:That was the big deal. Wow, and it was. That was when you say, remember, when what I remember back our stations and some of the stories and the fun and the creativity and the excitement and all that kind of stuff, rather than just being one narrow slot of it, right, it's across the board. That, to me, is what this is and that's where the magic lies, I think.
Speaker 1:I like that. So where do you see radio going? Everybody said it's going to go bye-bye with the internet. Not true, not true, not true Spotify.
Speaker 2:You know, we had cassette players, we had 8-track players, we had phonographs. All those were supposed to kill radio. Hasn't happened. Cds, sirius, xm okay, still hasn't made a dime. Really yeah, xm, the case still hasn't made a dime.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what radio is Scott that separates us? I see small market or micro market like we are versus the big boys. That's two different mediums. Local If you're just playing music or pulling down a satellite feed, what are you doing? Here You're anywhere USA, there's nothing there. You know. If you're just playing music or pulling down a satellite feed, what are you doing here? You're anywhere USA, there's nothing there. You know, and you can say you can argue, well, the commercials are local.
Speaker 2:Well some of them are Not all, but if you're running, let's say, a national state farm ad, well, that's anywhere USA. Yeah, it's not anybody specific. That's all clear.
Speaker 1:Weather.
Speaker 2:Weather Weather. Okay, I've had a surprising amount of comment lately about Odyssey Going into receivership is one of the larger publicly traded companies and Soros buying it.
Speaker 1:What is Odyssey? Are they like a clear channel? They own radio stations.
Speaker 2:KCBS is the one that I'm kind of most excited about. But, yeah, major market, a lot of them are spoken word or news, and George Soros has bought 27% of the debt I think it was something like that. And there's two major issues. One, I think everybody's pretty familiar he's politically active in placing people in elected positions, okay, and the concern is now if he's controlling content, what does that do? But secondly, he's also foreign and up until my buddy, john Pohl, bought a station. He's in Ottawa and the station was just over the border, but most of the signal and most of the reported listening was in Canada. So the FCC this past spring allowed that to happen. Now, with the advent of the election in a couple weeks, and if President Trump becomes President Trump again, the way the FCC, federal Communications Commission is structured it's a five-person board Two Dems, two Republican, appointed by those sides, and then the President appoints number three the swing vote.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:Well, now it's a three-two Dem Sure, okay. Well, they're fast tracking this thing.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Because he's more favorable to their liking. Well, it always takes forever, for when we sold the Brookings stations, it took anywhere between eight months, eight months for one of the stations, 12 months, some extenuating circumstances for the other one. They're doing this one in two months and it's like 250 radio stations. So politically motivated perhaps, it appears to be that way. The evidence he's got a lot more zeros than I do. His zeros are on the left side, minor after the dot. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:So is he Greek, I believe. So that sounds like a Greek name.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it is making for some interesting dynamics. But radio's future, as long as it's good, it's good. Yeah, as long as it's good, it's good. The frustration I have is a lot of people are relying on social media as news or information content or community. Well, yeah, which is scary, the old way we would get a fax. So you say da-da-da-da-da, what's going on? Well, we post it on Facebook. Great, so when the tornado or the hurricane or the earthquake or the windstorm or the rainstorm happens and we lose power at those towers, hmm, okay, keep pumping it out. You think people are able. They can't get to the information, right, or if it's without power entirely, your cell phone dies. Yeah, okay, well, let's put out. You know the current flood conditions? Yeah, call me.
Speaker 1:Just call me. That's a great part of radio, the emergency services aspect of this thing, because when this thing dies for all the reasons, imagine having a little AM-FM radio or a little C-Crane radio. You could turn on and go oh, Fernbridge is at 55 point and we got to get out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's part of what we are, and there's a battle going on.
Speaker 1:It's almost over.
Speaker 2:Requiring AM in the dashboard of cars. Tesla, bmw and Volvo are the three manufacturers that do not. You can't buy one with an AM radio in them. And because of what? Exactly what you were saying? If one of my towers goes down and so it's horizontal right out here in the swamp, I can still broadcast, you can still hear me. Kcbs, which has a five-tower array which sounds they have five radio towers. That's how they get their signal out In the Bay Area. In the Bay Area, three of the five towers were out after a windstorm. Two months later they found out, when the engineer went out, that three of the towers were down. What do you even do? Didn't lose a bit of their coverage? Didn't feel it. But if an FM tower goes down, it's gone, it's in the Bay, right. So you need to have, you need AM radio Interesting, you need to have access to it. And you know, is it as sexy as FM is? No, but is it as vital? It's easy to argue more.
Speaker 1:so I was staring at my C-Crane radio this morning and wondering I wonder if Bob's doing well with that company still. Well, I know he sold it. Yeah, they sold it. But I wonder if they're still selling radios. They seem to be.
Speaker 2:You see the catalog. They've got a bunch of choices. Yeah, they've got cool stuff. It's interesting for me now I'm starting to see now AM-FM radios in retail stores oh, where you couldn't find them for a while. Or it's FM only Now it's AM FM, because I think there's starting to be that recognition that when it hits the fan we're there for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it, hey. So a lot of people ask me parting shot here, getting close. Hey, scott, why do you podcast? What do you do? How do you do it? I would ask you for tips and the question is how does this get better? And I'm perfectly— Interviewing, yeah, I'm perfectly open to you. Know your coach approach, coach Brian.
Speaker 2:Active listening. Yeah, okay, that's it. Yeah, when this morning, casey Day was in we're buds, you know, after sucking up his Yankees comments oh no, he's a big Yankee fan, but has been for a long, long time.
Speaker 1:Remind me. I know his name. Who's? Casey Dane?
Speaker 2:He is the police chief in Fortuna.
Speaker 1:Yes, we just recognized him as a humbled hero, great guy.
Speaker 2:So he came in and we did the show a little bit and we just talked about what is happening. You know, this time it was about recruitment. You know who wants to be a cop Right? You know, if that's top of mind, then that's top of mind. You know, I have kind of a visceral response to somebody who wants to be just to talk about one thing. You know, it's like you're trying to define me as that. No, I don't do celebrity. It's interesting to see those who do. I don't do celebrity. It's a wasted opportunity. I hate standing in lines. I hate crowds, wasting time and getting tied up with things. It's a wasted opportunity and I hate standing in lines. I hate crowds.
Speaker 1:And that's what's-.
Speaker 2:Wasting time and getting tied up with things that aren't what I really want to do. So for the interview part what do you want to talk about? I don't know. What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1:Let's go, let's talk yeah.
Speaker 2:And whatever it is. So if it's insurance issues, I'm sure you have the same general questions people ask you on a regular basis. I kind of I'm a little bit more diverse, you know, because I kind of share a little bit more on air than what I probably ought to. But you know, people know about you know. So now they're talking to me about the house, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Or talking about the ball teams, okay. Or it'll soon be Christmas music, right, okay? Or a shopping show, you know, it's just everybody's got their areas that they identify you with. Sure, yeah, that's true. You just kind of go. Yeah, you know, let's talk about life.
Speaker 1:Broad stuff. It's beautiful today. It's windy outside, yeah, it's fall. It's windy outside, it's fall, it's cool, yeah, and I discovered that's where the kind of the magic is in being in the moment with people. There's a thousand things we could talk about, but what about the fact that it feels super windy and it feels like fall, what you know? How organic is the weather?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know about organic or chemical or not.
Speaker 1:I don't think we can go on for an hour.
Speaker 2:I do want to congratulate you though One of my tirades now is people using the C? Word and it's like are you kidding me? You mean cops? No, no, no, culture, no, I'll get there, don't worry, and it's okay. Ten years ago, when Rush started using it, everybody was talking about vetting. That was the cool word Vetting, vetting, we got to vet it.
Speaker 1:You mean you got to double check your sources.
Speaker 2:Yeah, vet it. Regular guy, talk. Well, now it's collaboration. Oh, the C word. You mean you want to meet? I can't even spell it. You want to talk? I can't even spell it. Do you want to talk? It's collaborate. So now I'm calling out anybody. And Casey snuck two of them in on me today and let's see Madrone. When Steve was on Wednesday, were they collaborating? Last segment, like 30 seconds to go, you couldn't say a thing. He said collaboration. I said you used it and he's laughing because most of them know when I get on a horse about that and that's what it is, it becomes humorous and fun and giggle and regular guy, that's so robust.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's a phrase that we use in the sales end of things about whether or not a commercial sounds good. What's the phrase? What we say is does it pass the beer test? Huh?
Speaker 1:What does that?
Speaker 2:mean Two guys are sitting down, they're having beer, soda, iced tea, whatever it is. Sure, is that how they talk?
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Located at 1438 48th Street. Yeah, nobody talks like that. Come on down. Yeah, it's across from the pizza parlor on the corner. Yeah, oh Okay, regular guy talk. Yeah, that's what this that's what. I, that's what I do, regular guy talk.
Speaker 2:I like that, and if you use acronyms, I've tripped guys up and say well, what? Okay, regular speak. What does that mean in English? Half the time, not half the time. Many times they forget what it means. Oh, they can't define it. They know how it's applied, yeah, but they can't define it word by word. Yeah, come on, now we're supposed to be able to follow your line of logic, somebody yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speak English. This gal in a group last night. She's a recovering alcoholic. She goes keep it real and raw and I go. I kind of like that because we're so full of BS as we BS our ending here and we close the show.
Speaker 2:No, it's BP. You're ending BP. Yeah, what is that Not?
Speaker 1:BS. Oh, it's B-Bull. What's my name? Oh, Brian Papstein. Brian, thanks so much for being here today.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to give you crib notes.
Speaker 1:Eureka Broadcasting and as I close the show. Thanks everybody for listening. Come back next week. It's going to be on YouTube, it's going to be on Spotify. It's going to be everywhere we could possibly get this, including AXS TV. So it'll be on Suddenlink on the cable channels as long as it's not on a billboard Not yet. Channels as long as it's not on a billboard Not yet. And repost, reshare, subscribe, do your whole thing. Love to have you in, love to have you back. Thanks for making it Sure. Anything you'd like to say before we go? You got I don't know 20 seconds. See ya. Nice, with that we're done. Thanks, brian.
