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#69. Paul Beatie's Musical Journey: Transforming Ferndale's Old Steeple, Embracing Cultural Legacy, and Celebrating Community Through Music and History
Imagine transforming a historic building into a cultural gem; that's exactly what our guest Paul Beatie has accomplished with The Old Steeple in Ferndale. Join us in a mesmerizing conversation as Paul, a gifted guitarist and venue owner, takes us on a journey from his beginnings in Auburn, California, with his surf band the Pyronauts, to sharing the stage with the legendary Dick Dale. Marvel at the unique intersection of music, culture, and personal history that has shaped both his career and the enchanting atmosphere of his beloved venue.
Picture a 120-year-old venue with stained glass windows and a tin roof, where acoustics create a magical experience for performers and audiences alike. Paul reveals the touching father-son dynamics that played a role in reviving this historic space, recounting its evolution from a vacation-like home to a bustling events hub. Dive into stories of hosting legendary musicians like Gene Parsons and bask in the spiritual and inviting ambiance that makes The Old Steeple a cherished community treasure.
But wait, there's more—attic adventures with barn owls and the art of concert promotion come alive through Paul's anecdotes. We explore the vibrant tales of music and art, and the importance of fostering strong relationships in the industry. Revel in the allure of upcoming performances, including a mini-tour featuring the Starhoppers and a unique mix of genres from bluegrass to Tuvan throat singing. This episode is packed with insights, memories, and the enduring charm that music brings to life.
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Ladies and gentlemen, friends and neighbors, it's me Scott Hammond, 100% Humboldt, with my new best friend, paul Beattie. Hi, how are you doing, paul? I'm great. How are you? I am awesome man. It's good to have you. So, paul, name, rank, serial number, who are you? What do you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what are you doing here? I'm not really sure. Who am I? Come at me, man. My name's Paul, I play the guitar and I own a music venue in Ferndale with my wife. It's called the Old Steeple and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of fun and you guys. I saw you guys play at the Folklife right A couple of years ago.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, my band, the Starhoppers. Starhoppers, we're a space-themed surf band, yep, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Echoes of the Ventures and all those. Yeah, is it Dick Dale, dick Dale, yep Surf guitarist, extraordinary.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Is he still alive? He is not. He is not. He died sometime before the pandemic.
Speaker 1:Was he LA-based, because that music sort of came from that surf scene.
Speaker 2:Right, he ended up in um 29 palms, as many do. But uh, yeah, he, he, uh. I think he was born in on the east coast, but then he, uh, you know, came of age in socal, late 50s, or they will say die somewhere warm.
Speaker 1:29 palms would definitely fit that. I think so. So were the Ventures, also 29 or LA.
Speaker 2:No, they were Tacoma or Seattle.
Speaker 1:Oh, how about that? Okay, so tell us more about how you. Let's talk about the old steeple, and but let's hear your story. How'd you get here?
Speaker 2:I grew up outside of Sacramento in Auburn. California Sure, and music was just kind of my thing, and I had a band called the Pyronauts in Sacramento area and we're still together. We just don't play as much since I moved up here. What kind of music? Surf music. Okay, that's basically what.
Speaker 1:I do Surf guys in Auburn. It makes perfect music. Okay, that's basically what I do Surf guys in Auburn, it makes perfect sense, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so towards the end of high school, through college, I was playing with them and then we did a lot of gigs probably 700 gigs and up and down California. And then in 2014, we went to Europe Wow For a tour, and that was tons of fun. I bet.
Speaker 2:We played this big festival in Italy with like three to 5,000 people out there and basically lost our minds. Yeah, it was really fun. Was it a surf music festival? Yeah, wow, and they love it in Europe. Europeans love all kinds of stuff, they get it. Yeah, wow, and they love it in Europe. Europeans love all kinds of stuff, they get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we would go into the venue or meet people and they're like where are you from? We're from California. Oh man Cool, you guys go surfing. And you're like what's your favorite? Tiki bar and all this stuff. You know Auburn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're like well, we live in the foothills and you know it's four hours to the beach, dude, yeah.
Speaker 2:But uh, it was. It was really really great and uh, but we did uh with that band. We got to open for Dick Dale a number of times. That's cool, and I got to know him, got to know his band and that was really our entry into that scene, um, which is pretty incredible, uh. And now you know he's gone, but there's still some other. We call it first wave surf music. There's still some other guys out there that we've gotten to meet.
Speaker 1:That's cool and uh, because he's he's an iconic figure in a very niche.
Speaker 2:Exactly what other genre could you, as an amateur, end up opening for the inventor and then getting to know him who was?
Speaker 1:the king of bluegrass, the guy that everybody liked. It wasn't Doc Watson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Doc and Bill.
Speaker 1:Monroe, monroe, mr Monroe Right. Yeah, the mandolin player. Yeah, doc and Bill.
Speaker 2:Monroe.
Speaker 1:Monroe, mr Monroe, right, yeah, the mandolin player, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess it was similar to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that was really my entry into putting on concerts, was eventually doing some Dick Dale shows in both Auburn and then in Scotia. That you produced, that I, yeah, produced, wow, okay. And so we did it twice in Scotia when we first moved up here with the Pyronauts opening at the Winnema or the Wynema theater there. And it was so awesome.
Speaker 1:It's a cool little venue. How many does that seat?
Speaker 2:I think, a lot more than the old steeple. The old steeple is about 225. Okay, and in Scotia, there I think we had about four to 500.
Speaker 1:It's pretty good. Actually, it's all redwood right. I mean, have you been in the Wainima Theater? Oh, you got to check it.
Speaker 2:It's so cool. It's such a cool. Exterior is like greek columns, but they're trunks of trees and then inside it's all unfinished redwood and it's like living. It's iconic I've been using wanting to use iconic all day and on the stage there's like the old school footlights oh, you know that are sunk down in the stage, and it was just like it was so neat, and the redwood days where they could manufacture stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1:So where'd you go to school then after Auburn? Oh, I went to Sac State.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, studied music or no economics actually, Of course yeah.
Speaker 1:Relates to music.
Speaker 2:I went to Sierra College, which is a junior college, Sure, and for three and a half years and it just sort of took every class. That was interesting. So I have a AA degree in music, business, general and humanities, which is funny because I never stepped foot in the humanities building. They just said hey, for $40 more we'll give you another AA degree.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, yeah, the answer is yes, and so my bachelor's degree is in economics. Because at that point I was like, oh crap, I got to figure out how to finish and so I got the course catalog from Sac State and it was like economics was the easiest degree to get. That'll be easy yeah.
Speaker 1:Was that true?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the least amount of units and the least amount of commitments. Like a music degree was a lot of commitments, and then you're basically your only career path is a music teacher, right? So I got which. I became a music teacher, sure, anyway, of course Without a music degree, and so I taught guitar lessons and rock band classes for I don't know about 10 years Down there up here Both.
Speaker 1:I relate and resonate with this story. I was a rec major. Humble Recreation means liberal arts, which means four minors, theater, rec, pe and the other one business. Yeah designers, theater, rec, pe and the other one business, and so I have a replete good education from not Cal Poly, it was Humboldt State. But yeah, hey, you do what you can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a fun time and I learned a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I came up as an oceanography major, way above my pay grade and so you ascend to. You ascend to what you can. So you came up here, met your wife at oh we.
Speaker 2:We met in um college, so she's from the sacramento area too, and are you? Guys here we decided to move to ferndale around 2012. We're just like checking out of the sacramento scene and checking out of the Sacramento scene and it's a different culture there. You know, it's like driving and road rage and angry and like not being neighborly to your neighbors.
Speaker 1:Have they had that this year in Fordale?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we moved to like a real community where, like, you actually are friendly to your neighbor and care about your neighbors and and and like, became a part of that community pretty quick, which is not an easy thing, right? Most people in Ferndale are really friendly and welcoming. I think that they don't like you coming and telling them how to do what they're already doing Right. And we never did that. We just came and we're like this is what we're going to do, Right, you know? If you like it, that's cool.
Speaker 1:If you don't whatever.
Speaker 2:So did you initially come and then just immediately purchase the church building? No, we started a music store and I was teaching, built up a lesson studio and then we were selling music stuff too. Was that on Red or Main Street? Yeah, we had two locations on Main Street, oh, and then when we had the opportunity to get the church there, we moved the store into the church and our foot traffic just kind of died off and the retail thing kind of was less fun, yeah, and so we sort of stopped that.
Speaker 1:So productions started to get your attention.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, and the putting on concerts was just like a lot more fun.
Speaker 1:Tell me about the one guy, the one guy, that one guy I'm trying to think of his name. He's in Nashville now. My friend, jeff Crown, knew him. Christian guy would do worship stuff on Friday nights.
Speaker 2:Oh right, anthony Skinner, anthony Skinner, I was never there for that.
Speaker 1:Okay, you never met him, Nope, so that was a separate thing where he rented out the or they rented.
Speaker 2:They were the previous owner. He was involved with them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the guys that had the killer studio up somewhere. Same guy, same guy, okay, and then they sold.
Speaker 2:So were they the folks that sold it to y'all, y'all Yep, okay, gotcha yeah and basically, when we went and looked at it, we're like, oh man, you know, we know what to do, uh-huh, but this, you know it's going to be stretch Some work. So we started working the back channels and like, this is the plan. You know, this is what we would do and I think that because of that music connection, that opened the door to making a deal.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Because otherwise, you know, if it was just about the money, yeah, we would have been outbid, you're just some guy.
Speaker 1:But you were going to take it to the next level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think we and talking to the previous owner after the fact, you know, it's like kind of completing a part of his vision. Nice, are they still in the area? Not really, they still own the studio, but they're kind of all over.
Speaker 1:I imagine you've been to that studio. Up the road I have. I heard that state of the art killer, it's pretty cool, amazing, it's like.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like walking into a lodge.
Speaker 1:And I drove by the house it house. You could see some of it from the road right, not really. Okay, I've seen the driveway.
Speaker 2:It's like the control room is about twice the size of this room, four times the size of this room.
Speaker 1:And it's floating.
Speaker 2:It's its own foundation, its own HVAC system. Really, there's two doors and you cross this threshold. Huh, it's not connected to the rest of the room, it's on an island. Yeah, wow, and then why?
Speaker 1:is that a good thing? It's just totally isolated, so it's not going to be interfered with sound-wise Something could be extremely noisy in the next room and you're not going to hear the vibration.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah, room, and you're not gonna, you'll never vibration, wow, yeah. And then there's a guitar loft with a bunch of cool old amps and a drum selection in the carport or the garage and, uh, go pick your weapons. Big board, neve board. You know, in the day the board was probably 100 grand or a million bucks, wow. And now it's worth maybe 100, right, but, um, a piano, piano organ room. It's worth maybe a hundred, right, but a piano organ room. It's basically like if Led Zeppelin showed up with no instruments, no problem, they can make an album.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And it's analog 96 tracks of two inch tape for machines.
Speaker 1:Wow, can they do digital now or is it still? They do digital at the same time they.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's analog, it's both. Yeah, wow, one time I recorded on the 24 inch track or two inch track, 24 tracks. It was so much fun. Yeah, uh, because, and then we mixed on that too. So when you mix, every time you do it you have to do it again. So you have to like write notes and the whole band's at this board and do it over and you're like okay, at three minutes and ten seconds I gotta move channel nine down to this rad and then I gotta move it back.
Speaker 1:So when they did Dark Side of the Moon, pig Floyd had to do that probably a lot right, wow huh? I Do that probably a lot, right, wow, huh. I'm fascinated by that. Before I forget, auburn has a killer record store, if I remember right, cherry Records. Yeah, yeah, been in there a couple you probably know, alan right, alan's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, nice guy yeah, we sell our CDs out there for sure. That's cool. He's got a lot of so yeah. So so you buy the place, you cut a deal and and you're looking going. Oh my God, what have I done? What have I prayed for Cause I got it. We got the keys on May 20th. Our son was born May 23rd. We moved in basically two weeks later. Then we moved the store that summer and then we had our first concert that fall or that November.
Speaker 2:Other than that, nothing going on and no sleep. Our kid did not sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have a daughter in Boise right now, New baby not sleeping. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why it's that's for young people and um yeah, I was not necessarily a young dad, that's cool though you did this whole turnabout. So I think it's fair to say let's talk about Ferndale a minute, but let's talk about the building, because it's got historical and crazy cool stuff to it right, and then you guys have restored it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, before we got it it was just known around town as the old Methodist church. It was the first church in Ferndale.
Speaker 1:Right by the cemetery up the hill.
Speaker 2:Right by the cemetery 1870s, and then it was remodeled in around 1902, the way it is now, with the big stained glass windows and the pressed tin ceiling and the steeple, and that's where we got the name the old steeple.
Speaker 1:Did you guys rename it or was it already?
Speaker 2:We named it that Okay, yeah and uh, but in the 1960s it is when it sort of ceased being a church and the properties were sold off the parsonage, which is where I live now, and the church, wow, um, and church, wow and.
Speaker 1:Father Paul, just kidding. Is that what your kid calls you? No, I'm kidding that would be funny.
Speaker 2:Hey, Dad yeah.
Speaker 1:Probably Dad.
Speaker 2:No, he calls me things, but no, never mind, we won't go there.
Speaker 1:That's father-son stuff yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool, it's all cool.
Speaker 1:But, um, my dad, my son, actually are number nine, mike is 20. Hey, micah calls me Scott, which is so Jody. It's just really bothered by that. It's like he's dad. Once you know he's Scott, hey, scott, and he'll refer to Like all right, dude, I guess you could be Micah or Mike, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:Pretty funny.
Speaker 1:Father, son stuff. Yeah, they keep it on your toes, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you had a whole rebuild to to or a reef remodel to do here. Well, the the previous guy kept it like a, you know, like a vacation home or or, or, like a, like a, like a hotel almost. They had weekly cleaning, weekly landscaping oh that's cool.
Speaker 2:Maintenance Wow, so it didn't come dilapidated then, no, it came in great shape and then we've been deferring a lot of maintenance since we've taken over. Sure, we did do a remodel of the bathrooms when we turned it into a venue. We built the stage out a little bit further to accommodate the piano on the middle of the stage, and we've done some remodeling in the backstage area. Wow, but, like the bones and the roof and the painting, that was all done Now that the roof is sort of catching up with us and the painting and like today it was up there. We're working on the gutters up on the tower. Wow, they're 120 year old gutters. It's a big redwood, you know. They're like that big, wow, and, like you know, 15 feet long and they're finally rotting, finally, after 120 years. Good investment. I'm the guy that gets to fix that somebody has to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, how do you replace? Are you going to do plastic or do something?
Speaker 2:we're actually doing no gutters no, gutters hey, maybe you don't need them we're like figure, like the economic way they like all they do is catch bird poop. Right, that's the only thing that hangs out up there not doing anything. Yeah, you know, it's like, well, do we even?
Speaker 1:need these things.
Speaker 1:Tear them down and paint them, yeah yeah, huh so, and it was rotten like three layers deep, wow so you sort of got the dream job house venue, records, I mean music store production venue and you guys do weddings too, right, we do weddings, yeah. Yeah, I think it bears mentioning, just to just to create a visual. Have you ever been out in the old steeple? It's, it's pretty magic, it's. It looks cool, it's an old. Is it reddish? If I remember right, it's red, yeah, and it's at right at the base of this uh, google it please. It's. It's on a uh, it's at the base of a hillside where the cemetery is historical cemetery and the venue is really fun. I mean to see shows there. I mean huckleberry flint and john hammond, and you know, I'll let you drop some Cousin who, cousin your cousin John?
Speaker 2:Hammond.
Speaker 1:I don't like to talk about that, you know. He doesn't like to talk about our great, great great grandfather, jedediah Hammond, hammond, lumber, hammond Trail, who invented the Hammond Bridge, and if my wife was here, she'd be just going, jody goes nuts when I go there. So hi, joni, love you Mean it. So you got into the place. It's starting to come together. Who was your first?
Speaker 2:show Gene Parsons and he was from the Birds. He was in the Birds.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And then the bass player from Van Morrison's band. I'm drawing a blank on right now.
Speaker 1:Were they in the same band or they were two different?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they both live in Mendocino, okay, and so they came up and did that. I don't remember how that happened, but it was pretty magical. You know, when you first walk in that room, the stained glass window glows and it's just like. It's like a reverence in that room and it's like a. There's a good vibe, it's a spiritual place and it's like a really positive yeah vibe and and it's really fun seeing artists walk in there and they look up and they're like, oh man, this is gonna be great really.
Speaker 1:So they they know right away, because they've done this yep and the, the sound um is.
Speaker 2:You know, it's made, it was made before sound reinforcement. So preacher up there with a big voice, he can command the room. And the tin, the tin roof, tin roof, and we don't have a lot of uh, bad, flutter echo when you get parallel walls, ceilings, the floor is sloped, ceiling is really irregular.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's a live room, but it doesn't have a lot of like bad frequencies.
Speaker 1:Wow, that would feed back. I would think a tin roof would be problematic for sound. It's reflective, but it's very textured. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then the seats that we put in are really thick padded seats and they absorb a lot. That would help. Like this last wedding we had all the chairs out of there for the first time in a couple of years and, like you clap and the reverb just goes that's cool, I like it and it's really like loud without the chairs, but then chairs and you get bodies in there and it just gets warm and like and it actually warms up a little bit.
Speaker 1:I've noticed with the body heat, just kind of for the christmas show that huck flint did. That was fun. So let's talk about ferdale and I want to come back to some of the shows that you sure like and remember and maybe some coming up. Um.
Speaker 2:Why do you like Freddale? Yeah, you know, I think I said before, it's a community where people care about each other and you know, the fire alarm goes off and people start running. They run down the street, firemen run down the street to the firehouse and you get to know everybody, you know, even if they're not the nicest person, you know who they are. It's a small town, yeah, and uh, uh, it's. It's a real place, you know, with you know, I'm not saying we don't have problems. We do have problems, um, like anywhere.
Speaker 2:But I feel like, um, I can affect change there and uh and in doing my own thing there over these last 12 and a half years, like got a lot of support, made a lot of friends and, uh, made made a good life, I think.
Speaker 1:Making, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, made, made a good life, I think. Making, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, so, uh, primarily dairy and formerly a timber town, arguably, and a lot of italian and portuguese background, right, azores and danish and danish, yeah, and all that history with um, what's her name? Bill moral is related to her. Um, viola, russ, mcbr, the Russes and the McBrides yeah, yeah, she's kind of a legend right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like in the 70s it was pretty much a ghost town Main Street and everything was painted white.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:And she started buying up these properties on Main Street, painting them up, and she got her artist friends come up from the city and gave them cheap rent and really started making art like hobart brown. Hobart, yeah, jack mays, who was still alive when I got town. Got to know jack mays a little bit. Who's the blacksmith? Is he still living? Joe coaches he died a few years ago. Knew joe a little bit? Yep, yeah, all these great characters, yeah, and there's still. There's still characters in town. Let's not forget Patrick Cleary.
Speaker 1:Hey, Pat, he's a character. You're looking where'd he go? I thought he walked in, Hi Patrick.
Speaker 2:He's a character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it's got great history and a great vibe. I really liked the North Coast Journal store there, the locally made stuff oh yeah, isn't that cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I figure. Like you know, it's not easy to have a store anywhere, mm-hmm. But if you can make your store work in Ferndale, that's pretty good. Yeah, you know it's hard to get to Ferndale. I think that's one of the things that's kept it preserved so well. It's not on the main track, it's just off the freeway, you know, and before there was even a freeway it wasn't on the main road, right, you know, it's always kind of been off in its own little pocket like an island?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it well. It's surrounded by other islands.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because, well, it's surrounded by other islands. Yeah, Isn't it island whatever when it floods there, pretty much. Isn't there a road called Something Island, cockrobin Island? Yeah, that's one, yeah, yeah, no, we love going down. It's funny. A little bit of history there and going way back.
Speaker 1:We went down for breakfast and we met these guys riding their e-bikes at the little park there and now, uh, I go, hey, can you mind if I jump on? The guy goes, yeah, go for it. And I and I cruised main street going 30. I go, man, this is the best thing ever, I'm not even pedaling, and just kind of that friendly, kind of nice Ferndale story. Yeah, totally, and Guy Fieri, he's nice. Have you met Guy Uh-huh? Is he a nice guy?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was totally nice. Yeah, he bought a couple of sculptures from me. Actually I had some Jack Mays sculptures oh wow For sale and he came in with his posse, yeah, and he had actually remembered being a kid and he did some play on the stage at the steeple. How about that? Yeah, that's cool. And then I said, hey, do you want to see the attic? He's like sure. So took him up to the attic and there's stuff up there you know, huh, skeletons, treasures, yeah, cardboard boxes dead body flies bats, barn owls.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, all of it yeah, is there a bar?
Speaker 1:I know your barn owl is part of your logo is it right?
Speaker 2:yeah, there are barn ow. Are there barn owls up there? Barn owls up in the steeple?
Speaker 1:They still are there. Yeah, oh, that's cool yeah.
Speaker 2:Huh, helps with rodents. Oh, totally yeah. Yeah, they're great, that's kind of a cool deal.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's coming?
Speaker 2:Well, we've had, yeah, for the past. You know some of my favorites Iris DeMint, greg Brown she was just here, right Last year. It's been a couple years. I need to get her back. She's really quite good, right? She'll write that down. What does she do? She's one of my favorites. Is she a string player? She plays guitar and piano. Okay. And string player. She plays guitar and piano, okay. And then David Lindley we had him twice.
Speaker 1:He's come up to Humboldt a lot over the years. Right, that was pretty. Those were incredible shows. He perished, right, yep, and he was slide guitarist for Jackson Brown. Mm-hmm Running on Empty man, mm-hmm, yeah, rad.
Speaker 2:Interesting, interesting. Yeah, I'm sorry I missed him. I would have liked to have seen him total wild man, not wild, but just weird. Bay area guy. Uh, socal prince of polyester wow, he wore polyester pants and he would play these on purpose. Oh yeah, he played these instruments with no frets, you know, stringed instruments, weird turkish instruments or whatever, and everything was perfect, never a wrong note, and just incredible.
Speaker 1:I think of Bruce Coburn playing that one instrument that he used to tour with. I forgot.
Speaker 2:That's another one I need to get, yeah before he dies Yep, he's getting quite.
Speaker 1:he's got some health stuff right.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, he's been here a number of times. He played the old town bar and grill and arcade theater a couple years ago. I bet you could pull bruce off. Absolutely, I know a guy. You know, I know a guy, okay, so did you meet a lot of. So let's just step back for a second yeah, do you meet a lot of producers around or learn to hone your craft around the Dick Dale people or shows.
Speaker 2:Well, I saw other people and how they did it and I was like it's not cool. You know, you think of a concert promoter and in my touring I've dealt with different people. You know, like, like one time we played in LA and it's the end of the night, it's time to get paid, and they're like well, the deal was you had to sell you know $400 worth of tickets to get paid and you only sold you know 380. So we're like well, here's 20 bucks. Yeah, this is money.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like no, that's not how it works. Whoa, I'm like what you suck, you know, and uh, so there's all kinds of of shady deals, so I've always tried to be above board and professional. It's all about relationships and and, uh, your reputation, isn't it all, yeah, so, um, you know, like Iris Dement, I had to work my way up to Iris Dement, figure out what agency she works for, book a couple others from them. Where's she based? Iowa?
Speaker 1:Hey, sioux City, iowa. Hey, iris, what's up? I don't know what part of Iowa she's from, hmm, I think I don't know what part of Iowa she's from, hmm, I think I don't know. It could be anywhere. I don't know if I've been to Iowa Anywhere. Iowa's cool. Iowa people, by the way, are just Midwest cool. They're just great. So, iris DeBent, you caught me on another line there I was going with so some of the shows that you've had have been name some others.
Speaker 2:oh, you know, we had uh, john craigie. We had uh, uh, jerry douglas, who is you know? If you don't know who that is, he's the dobro player for Allison Krauss Union Station. Mm-hmm, we had Molly Tuttle. Mm-hmm, we had, she's great.
Speaker 1:Sierra Hull Saw Molly last summer up at the Brit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's quite good.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:She played in two bands. She played with the first guys that, and then the incredible String Dusters. Yeah, yeah, she's something. I yeah she's something I missed.
Speaker 2:Billy Strings oh, got it.
Speaker 1:Was he available at some point? I think so he's like he's a stadium guy now. He's like outer space now man. So shout out to my friend, david Turner, who has an uncanny ability to call out the shows, you know at the Arcata Playhouse or your place or you know wherever. And he knows the Troubadours, he knows the Iris, john Craigie real well.
Speaker 2:Particle Kid is one of my favorites. That's Willie Nelson's Youngest son, right on, and now he's in Neil Young's band. Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1:No big deal, Does he? Yeah, whatever Does he do the duet with his dad? They do the song. Or is that another son?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the one? What's it called? I'll be halfway to heaven if I Something like that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:My wife really likes that song yeah.
Speaker 2:That's really good.
Speaker 1:Does he do that song for his show?
Speaker 2:No, he does a particle kid stuff, stuff which is more like rock and roll psychedelic. I love it, it's great yeah, and he's just a sweet dude nice guy cool. Yeah, I really like the artists. That are nice, that are just normal sweet people who, who?
Speaker 1:who stands out of that? Alistair frazier, um how was john Hammond, my Uncle John? Oh, he was so cool, was he cool? He was so cool, he was great.
Speaker 2:He was a great show. Yeah, he's kind of like a gruff kind of voice. You know he's old school, he smoked a lot, you know, yeah. But he's got stories about hanging out with Tom Waits. He's got stories about Neil Young and what I loved about him and what he did on the stage was he's just like. I can't even believe this story, but I got to play with. You know so-and-so.
Speaker 1:Didn't he have Hendrix and Eric Clapton in the same show or studio?
Speaker 2:And it wasn't like yeah, I did this, you know I'm so cool.
Speaker 1:It was like I can't even believe how cool this was.
Speaker 2:I was so thankful to be a part of it. I was there, I got to do this.
Speaker 1:It was incredible. Different attitude Totally. That's cool. I like that.
Speaker 2:Where, if it was Dick Dale, Dick Dale would say things like well, I taught Jimi Hendrix how to play. Yeah, of course you did me Hendrix out of play. Yeah, of course you know I taught the.
Speaker 1:Beach Boys, everything. Is that even true?
Speaker 2:They just both happen to be left-handed, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, you know we're all lefties over here, don't worry about it. Yeah, so uh, other than the produced shows, you guys do a wedding venue there.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's cool. Yep, uh, we do weddings and do weddings and um, you know, the other thing we should talk about is the tv show yeah, we produced uh with pbs, with keith, which is our local affiliate.
Speaker 1:We did uh one of the longest running local affiliates, by the way, for public television in america.
Speaker 2:I understand they're pretty and know we're the third smallest PBS market that I believe. The other two are both in Alaska, talkeetna, yeah. So I pitched this idea to do a show and we made the pilot with Lori Lewis, who's a Bay Area bluegrass.
Speaker 1:She's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know it turned out really good and we're like, okay, let's make a season. And so that first season we did 12.
Speaker 1:These are shows that were scheduled to come to the venue Yep.
Speaker 2:And so I talked them into being taped and recorded and you know, they brought their van with all the equipment, cables, coming in the door with all these cameras and wait and um, you know, uh, john craig he's on that first season and alistair and natalie and uh, so we made that season. And then the idea was we got some local underwriters and the idea was, well, we're going to package the season, we're going to put it out there for free for other PBS affiliates to pick up, and so that first season was, in my mind, very successful and it aired to viewable over half of the country.
Speaker 2:That's really good it aired in LA, san Francisco, new York, boston, vegas, philadelphia. I don't know about Boston, boston's a big PBS market. That's cool. We didn't get in Texas.
Speaker 2:We didn't get Hawaii, but we got a lot of other cool places. We also got some local places too, like Medford, san Francisco, chico, redding, so, which is cool, because a lot of our underwriting is tourist based Right. So in the second season it was all tourist based and that is going out. That's out there right now and it's aired in LA and San Francisco and in New York and it moved to the main PBS station in new york, which is really cool so in manhattan, wow.
Speaker 1:So they're still kind of on some sort of a cycle where they run yeah, they get distributed.
Speaker 2:Um, I can't remember the name of the company that distributes them, but basically they're in a catalog and the program director can choose these free to fill in their schedules. So it might have been on at like 3 am in New York City but it's still there and it's still in the schedule and then the members of their station they're going to see it. So it's been on in Michigan lately.
Speaker 1:So folks can actually download and um so folks can actually download as so. So the local affiliate would streams in some way from, yeah, from our keat station or from the cloud somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's through this distribution. Yeah, but um, it is on, uh, the pbs website. Like if you search live from the old steeple on pbsorg you could find all that. It'll be there and all 25 episodes are.
Speaker 1:So, as a member, I could just go on my computer and pull it up and start playing it on my TV, for that matter, absolutely. If I was a tech guy, I could figure that out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think like if you have Roku or whatever, you could do it on Roku. Roku is pretty easy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So who was second season? Who who played uh?
Speaker 2:uh, and then the big show was, um, mark Cohn, uh, sarah Giroux and the other one, the other one, and my friend Dave tried to get me to go to that show, the big one, I'm sure these are all sold out in. Yeah, record time.
Speaker 1:What's cool about your venue is that it's pretty affordable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one was a bit, that one was a bit, that one was a bit pricey. Yeah, and I lost my butt, on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But there was a cool, you know there was tour bus, sean Colvin, okay, yeah, there was a tour bus in the driveway and it was just kind of like like I had to have security and like Whoa, there was. Like there was like this memo that went out, you know, with mugshots, basically Like have your security team keep an eye out for these people. Who are they? Oh crap, are they folks?
Speaker 1:that follow these guys Like stalkers or whatever Groupies? No, like weirdos.
Speaker 2:This is heavy duty man. These guys are big. Yeah, this is just real tall stuff. We didn't have any problems, though, that's good.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know, and I think about going to the wine country or to the Brit or to Reading and you got money for gas and food and lodging and it's like, oh, freddale's a long ways, it's 50 whole minutes from McKinleyville.
Speaker 2:It's a long commute but I think that's worth every penny, penny, especially to see guys like that well, yeah, that was my rationale, was, you know, and if I had sold that show out I would have broken even.
Speaker 2:But we didn't quite get there, but my rationale was well like, if you're gonna see the show, you're gonna have to leave the area you know sacramento or bay area and ticket price will be cheaper. Yeah, but you got gas, you got food, you got lodging crazy, and so and, and a whole weekend to go do it all. I convinced. I convinced a fair number of people, that rationale, but not enough so you've done other promoters.
Speaker 1:Did you know roy up at humble when he was?
Speaker 2:doing a A little bit. Yeah, yeah, nice guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what's your secret to making it work for the musicians and the bands and the roadies? I mean top three takeaways. You said Hospitality.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know like it needs to be comfortable for them because basically, their job is driving. They drive all the time. Yeah, they're truck drivers, they're driving and they get to where they're going. They want to relax, they want to sound good, they want to have a good show. So you just take care of them, maybe go work out move around take a walk, maybe do their laundry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, imagine that Good washer and dryer there for them. You know, that's a pretty good idea. Yeah, I like it. It's very practical. So you're here to serve them and get them into the best headspace possible. Exactly, I love it. So let's talk about stuff you like at Humboldt. Hey, it's time for the show. Okay, the part of the show where you can that was the intro. Yeah, that was it. Welcome to the. This is the part of the show where you can kind of tell us what you like about Humboldt. Yeah, and I haven't even been able to use my prop yet Humboldt County, located in Northern California, the size of Rhode Island, about 130,000 people give or take, and it rains a lot. You don't want to live here, but you can come visit, spend money, just kidding.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, we get a lot of tourists because of that TV show. We get a lot of people coming. Just roll through Yep Traveling to our shows to see shows here.
Speaker 1:Nice and I would assume people that didn't time it well for a show but just came to Ferndale or wherever.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it's so. What do you like about living in Humboldt?
Speaker 2:I love that. Not about living in.
Speaker 1:Humboldt, I love that, not Ferndale. Yeah, you don't live in Auburn anymore. She came here. So what are some of the things you like?
Speaker 2:You know, Auburn is at about 1,200 feet Mm-hmm and it's really beautiful.
Speaker 1:It's a cool town.
Speaker 2:Like it's really hot in summer, mm-hmm. Really cold in the winter, mm-hmm. And in the summertime, when the delta breezes kick up, it cools off sacramento, but it pushes the smog right up against the hill. Oh, that's interesting, huh. And so here, number one, it's clean air, yeah, and then the green, yeah. Just, I love the trees and um, but it's a different pace of a different culture and I dig it. When I first got here, I was just kind of stuck in that moving too fast. I'm still moved too fast, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I'm working on slowing it down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask is that?
Speaker 1:transition. Tough for you to dial it in. Slow it down, take the deep breaths.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I know I was ready for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I imagine you're a pretty mellow guy even then.
Speaker 2:but I don't know. Right after we made the decision to move, I was teaching at this music store near Auburn and my commute was, I don't know, 15 miles up highway 49 and 49 is like this monster road that connects to 80, which is this beast, this serpent of ah?
Speaker 1:you know rage yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm in the fast lane driving, driving to work, going 75 in a 65, and this old lady passes me on the right, looks over and flips me off Wow, because I'm going too slow. I'm in her way 75. And, like you know how, the adrenaline just kicks and you feel hot and you're just like I don't know that, I don't know what you're speaking. So I started like accelerating. Oh, no Right, I go. Whoa wait the rage, this is not me, I can't do this anymore. You know, and I was like that was like the moment in my mind where, you know, this is I have to go. Everybody has to hit bottom, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like. This is so stupid. I almost caught her too. I was going to give her the signal that's somebody's grandma, dude, that's somebody unhappy, so weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't give her your number one and so every time I go back visit family and friends and stuff, like get on that.
Speaker 1:I get on the freeway on the mellow music and just I do the driving. Usually in the cities it's a whole different ballgame. Yeah, because I have one stoplight on the way out to McKinleyville. It's at the end of Eureka and there's a cheater lane and you can go. It's amazing Not my story, but the rush and the headspace that you have to enter into a San Diego or San Francisco or Sacramento LA freeway is a whole different headspace. And you've got to be able to drive. Yeah, I mean not even fast, just to hang bro, you're not going to you could be really a problem.
Speaker 1:We saw a guy cut us off in Burbank Another story. Hey, question number two Okay, you get to eat out with your wife tonight Anywhere in Humboldt and I really it's harder because you're in Ferndale, because you're going to say something in Ferndale.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go to the.
Speaker 1:Ivanhoe they just opened. Not yet Are they? They're coming open, though, right. Yeah, we're still remodeling. Where would you go? Brick and fire? Brick and fire Cool, they're delicious, yeah yeah, they were started by the couple that had the beach shop in Arcata, if I recall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's our favorite?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're delicious. Okay, how many kids, by the way? One, one Only child. Two dogs Nice Five chickens. Two dogs, nice five chickens. Oh, you're chicken people. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. No, that's smart to hear that now, because they're 14 bucks a dozen. Yeah, are you guys getting chickens right now? Are we getting chicks? No, no, chicken eggs, oh, eggs, yeah, yeah, totally. Are you getting chickens now? Yes, you have chickens. Um, yeah, we just started laying again in mckellyville beautiful eggs in there. I think she priced. Our son was at the store the other day and they were like 10 bucks a dozen at Grocery Outlet. I'm going what? That's the discount, that's the cheap ones. That tastes crappy. Yeah, they're not nearly as good, yeah. Question three you and your sweetheart get the day off. Go anywhere. Oh, here comes the prop. Nick, zoom into the prop anywhere on the map. There you get a day, a day to go play. What?
Speaker 2:what do you, what would you all do? Oh, you know, probably go to arcata, um, get some coffee, go to the minor theater, um, but like for outside stuff, man, we haven't been to the cove in a long time supposed to be fun I want, I, you know, I want to get back there. Uh, haven't been to jippo yet. That's how long I haven't been to the cove, okay, and um, you know our kid gets car sick, so like kind of the patrolli the patia Circle. I really enjoy doing that.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to see if the cove is on my map I better. I think it has to be.
Speaker 2:It's got to be.
Speaker 1:It's Shelter Cove.
Speaker 2:It's just kind of rolled up on the bottom there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:First time I ever saw the Milky Way. I was on the cliffs, above black sands, above Shelter Cove, and I looked up and there's no ambient light. And I go are you kidding me? Oh, that's what it looks like, oh that's, oh, that's what all the pictures were in school. And I'm looking up going, oh my god, this is amazing.
Speaker 1:Thank you, it's just this, this show of lights, and then, standing up over black sands, you're maybe you're a thousand feet up in this sheer cliff Isn't that crazy? And you can look offshore and there's ships in the night, and it was just kind of so. Yes, we're going to go back to the cove too. I think it's a good call, and Arcata, that's fun. So did you ever know Brooks Otis at Wildwood Music?
Speaker 2:I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, cool, nice guy Sold me my guitar, cool, car, cool. So brooks was our neighbor when I was in college and we raised rabbits and he, he got curious because his wife was doing um, um, it's not knitting, it's uh, so they. So they raised rabbits because she was really into her craft, which I'll think of the name of in just a second, and she would do these angora rabbits where you could wind their fur and do that word that I'm losing, you know it, so help me out. Anyway. So he sold me this beautiful jumbo, older school Yamaha big jumbo body and it's funny and maybe you would echo this and explain how this works. Why is landscape seasons? Wine can, really, can, really season, but a guitar, a wooden instrument, can also. Oh yeah, I mean old stradivarius right.
Speaker 2:Well, just like an old building too, like that the older it is, the older the wood was, the better quality those trees were sure you know just that and also craftsmanship. So you know, nowadays, nowadays you got computers, cnc machines making them exactly the same. You know, right. But when they're done by hand with that quality wood master craftsmen, right, they're going to be different.
Speaker 1:but there's some really really good ones, but over time some instruments actually sound. Their sound becomes.
Speaker 2:And the more you play them, sound becomes richer better the more you play them too.
Speaker 1:So that's the sound coming through the wood, and it must change in some way, something magical, something, yeah, it's magic.
Speaker 2:I've heard of guys that explains it. It's magic. I've heard of guys putting a guitar in a closet, like with a machine, like a drill, with a pick that just keeps picking it. No way, yeah, to try to season it, to seize it, and they'll do things like they'll. They'll like, bake the wood, really cook it and any of it work yeah, I guess how do you.
Speaker 1:It's pretty subjective. It's kind of cheating. I think that's a that's a cheat, that's a hack. How dare's a hack.
Speaker 2:How dare they hack that thing? But I've got two. I have two really nice acoustic guitars I got from Wildwood Music and it's dangerous for me to go in the music store Because you buy stuff.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:But both of those guitars I found there and they just like talk to me and it's one of those things where, once you're holding, you're like I'm not going to let this go.
Speaker 1:So, you know, mantov is probably you know, anthony Mm-hmm, yeah, an old town.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got some really bitching old amps there. Oh, I bet, yeah, tube amps, mm-hmm. Wow, yeah, the Starhopper's set up. I have one amp from there that I use, are you guys?
Speaker 1:going to play anytime soon.
Speaker 2:We're actually going to do a little tour. We're playing in Ukiah Sweet. I've never played in Ukiah before. Ukiah's a cool little town Ukiah Brewing on February 28th and then we're going to play at Hen House in Petaluma Heard of that On March 1st and then we're playing at Faction Brewing in Alameda on the 2nd. I've been there. And it's yeah it's on the waterfront, it's beautiful and it's for this thing called Rock and Roll Flea Market. Huh, and so there's like six surf bands and vinyl vendors and At Faction, at Faction.
Speaker 1:It's kind of a cool venue actually. It's in an old kind of a warehouse At Faction, at Faction. It's kind of a cool venue actually.
Speaker 2:It's in an old kind of a warehouse. You probably know it. I've never been there, but I've been to the Hornet, the aircraft carrier that's right over there?
Speaker 1:yeah, right, so the Killer Tiki Bar in the world told you something. Or Bidden Island? Yeah, I played there.
Speaker 2:You played there, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's funny, not star hoppers, pyronauts, perfect venue though, yeah, yeah, do you ever play the, the hotel downtown that is it the fairmont, where the, the, uh, the other famous tiki bars oh no, I've never been there, but I know what you're talking.
Speaker 2:What's it called?
Speaker 1:it's called the? Um. I'll think of it in a minute. People probably know what that is um, kind of one of the originals. I think I don't know if it was trader vicks or not, but it's. It's, yeah, it's associated with that.
Speaker 2:It's um something lounge now the trader vicks is in emeryville, correct?
Speaker 1:yeah, anyway. So yeah, our side lived in alameda, been to forbidden island cool yeah, got too shabby. Um, wow on tour. So who's coming up?
Speaker 2:uh, at the old steeple yeah, this, uh, wednesday february 5th, is steve poltz, and he's a new one for us and he's like a he's kind of a troubadour, singer-songwriter, wild man. Uh, he co-wrote some of jules hits back in the 90s and he's a Nashville guy now and he co-writes with Billy Strings and Molly Tuttle and all kinds of people. And then Valentine's Day, we've got John Reichman and the Jaybirds Nice, what kind of music is that? That's bluegrass. They appeared on the Live from Old Steeple. And then at the end of the month, on the 26th it's a wednesday we have a lash and they're a tuvan throat singing group and tuva is next to mongolia. It's technically part of russia, but it used to be its own country and it's its own culture. Wow, and and so they're basically Asian.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And throat. Singing is like a technique of singing two notes at the same time. Wow, and it's pretty wild. And they have instruments too. And they have instruments too and like a drum and these weird non-fretted Sweet Tuvan instruments, and they wear traditional Tuvan clothing. So it's a whole cultural thing. Oh, it's great, all the things so great, and like basically what it boils down to. There's songs they'll say like this song's about horses, this song's about girls or whatever Good intro songs.
Speaker 2:They'll say, like this song's about horses, this song's about girls or whatever you know. It's basically like they're like a rock and roll band. You know from this very rural place and it's like their songs are. They're not right. It's not rock and roll, it's traditional music right but it's what they're about. It's got context. It's like guys singing about girls and horses. You'd be like singing about girls and cars here.
Speaker 1:Sure, that's cool, I like it.
Speaker 2:They're like traditionally they're a nomadic people, you know, and they have their own shorter breed of horses. That'd be fun. It's so cool.
Speaker 1:So anybody else you want to mention, is there anybody like that you can't mention?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, there's not nobody. I can't mention okay, uh, for um st patrick's day we've got hanukkah castle who? Her cd is here I'm not sure why. Well, that's cool. Maybe she was on a show here too, I don't know. Yeah, and then uh, her her's right.
Speaker 1:I saw. I saw this on the website.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, and then later she looks like she's amazing. Yeah, Okay, Cool Later in the month, early James, and he's kind of like a a bluesy singer songwriter guy and he'll be new.
Speaker 1:She's playing with a couple other people right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tristan Claridge is actually from here. Okay, and he lives out in the, out in the hills.
Speaker 1:He's a hill person In the north they described.
Speaker 2:When I talked to him last time he came down, he described where they lived and like I was like dude and you're driving home now it was like a four hour drive home 299 somewhere Within the county. I think they have to leave the county and then back, come back. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's very possible where we live.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally wild, yeah, and then that's kind of it for this season, just kind of taking it a little easier, a little Humboldt style. It's like mellow.
Speaker 1:See what happens, and so will there be other shows over summer fall winter in the fall.
Speaker 2:Okay, we'll start back up again in the fall. Okay, usually we don't do shows in the summer because it's light till 9, 30, 10, right, right.
Speaker 1:People are mowing their lawns at nine or so less attended that in the summer because the long days yeah, and there's festivals, people are traveling to their.
Speaker 2:You know, like you used to have the kate, yeah, and there's festivals, people are traveling to their, you know like you used to have the kate wolf and stuff perfect sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Um, how do we get a hold of you? How do we get to the venue? Uh, this is your, your shout out time. Just check out the old steeplecom. That's how you find it. So, youtube, facebook, yep, instagram, yeah, facebook, instagram, tiktok. Nope, I'm too old for that. Go with some other ones, I'm too lazy too.
Speaker 2:That's okay.
Speaker 1:Plenty of ways to get tickets and find out.
Speaker 2:Yeah all the tickets are through our website, theoldsteeplecom.
Speaker 1:Okay, and they're easy to get, hopefully, well, it probably depends on the show, right? I mean it could sell out some of these stuff. Things sell out quick, right? Yeah, that's true like huckleberry flint no shows sold out. Yeah, yeah, we had fun christmas show really good you should get those guys in here yeah, how'd adam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, adam, good did. He was great. Um, I, I don't know, dust Dustin's kind of shy for some reason. Hey, dustin, what's up, he'll be here. I want to get him to wear his cowboy hat, that'd be fun. Oh yeah, the cool thing about that show is they picked all these alternative Christmas songs. I don't know. Give them another word that I've never heard like I'm spending Christmas in the airport. You know that? Yeah, it was a neat show.
Speaker 2:There was another word that I've never heard, like I'm spending Christmas in the airport, or you know that. Yeah, it was a neat show.
Speaker 1:There was just interesting song selection and of course they covered them um as only they can do Um anyway, hey, what a delight. Thanks for coming, paul. Yeah, thanks for having me. Any parting shots, anything um like the kids out there?
Speaker 2:No, how about?
Speaker 1:this, not that I can think of, I can't let you off the hook. So on your gravestone at your ceremony In the Ferndale.
Speaker 2:Cemetery.
Speaker 1:Or in the old steeple and then in the cemetery.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What are we going to say about you? What would you like to be remembered?
Speaker 2:for I don't know. I just want to be remembered as a good dude and trying to make a difference.
Speaker 1:It's cool, positive. Yeah, I like that, like it a lot. Well, thanks for being here. Thanks, here's where I do the sign off. Hey, hey, everybody, I'm closing the show. Uh, thanks for listening and being here and watching. And um, look for us on, uh, all the podcast platforms, of course, uh website, which I'll announce at some point. You know, repost, share, subscribe, make only good comments or whatever you want to say. It's fine, and thanks for Dick Taylor Chocolates for being part of our world and come on back next week. I'm going to say thanks again, paul, and appreciate you and sign off. Thanks for listening.
