#116. Deanna Dick on Midwifery, Home Birth, and Humboldt's Changing Birth Landscape

Deanna Dick talks with Scott Hammond about growing up in Tahoe, coming to Humboldt State, studying Spanish and psychology, and following mission work and midwifery training from Canada and Southeast Asia to Australia and Nigeria. She shares how those experiences led her back to Humboldt, into midwifery, and eventually to Moonstone Midwives, while reflecting on home birth, hospital changes, family, chocolate, and the local support systems around birth. 

Transcript

Welcome And Meet Deanna

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Ladies and gentlemen, friends and neighbors, boys and girls, and all those out to see it's Scott Hammond with the Hundred Percent Humboldt Podcast, located here in Humboldt County today with my new best friend Deanna Dick. Hi, Deanna.

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Hi, Scott.

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How's your day?

SPEAKER_02 0:43

It's great. Now that I have a new best friend.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Oh no, I've even better we're already old friends, but new best old friend.

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Yes. Yes, I'll take it.

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So uh glad to have you on the show.

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Thank you.

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Here to talk about birth and home birth and Humboldt and uh chocolate and bluegrass and how it's true that women that little really cool guys often have way cooler wives.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Oh, it's totally true. Is that true in your experience? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Tahoe Childhood And Finding Humboldt

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So tell us the Deanna story. How did you uh who are you and what how'd you get here?

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Hmm. Wow. So I did wander down that mysterious driveway over there. Uh how did I get here? That's like I'll give you the I should probably give you the Yeah, where were you born? Where'd you go to school? The cut version. Okay. Grew up in Lake Tahoe in Tahoe City. That's cool. So that place is close to my heart.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Is that North Shore? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Yeah. In in the mountains and skiing and just doing nice, nice childhood things like that. Um and then I found myself in Humboldt for university. That's why I came up here for school originally.

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Humboldt State University.

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Yep. Back in the day.

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When it's not Kelp Holly.

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Uh-huh. Yeah. Humboldt's. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And Adam was going here too. We kind of we didn't totally plan on it, but we um serendipitously ended up here, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Did you guys already know each other pre pre Humboldt?

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Yeah, just for a year beforehand. Oh, weird. Yeah. We met backpacking the summer before when we were in high school.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

That's funny.

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Yeah. And then we both ended up going to school here. So that was kind of nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

What'd you study?

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My degrees in Spanish. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

And my Mutra Gusto. Yeah. Montragusto. Miyamo Escoces. Escoces. People go, is that how you say Scott in Spanish? I know. It's not escotres. Escoces. I don't know. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

I don't even know how to interpret that.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Yeah. Sc a lot a lot of uh Hispanic folks are just scott. Scott. Escut. Scott Escott.

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Escott.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Escott. I go. Okay, whatever.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm. So uh grew up in Tahoe. That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

It was fun. Yeah. It was great to grow up in Tahoe. Yeah. Yeah.

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Where'd you go to school? There's a high school in like the Tahoe School.

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Oh yeah. North Tahoe High School, a distinguished California distinguished school. Oh wow. Mm-hmm. I bet. Yep. Like home of maybe 350 high schoolers.

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Whoa.

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Yes. Very, very special.

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So this is um home of mountain biking and skiing and snowboarding and backpacking and cold in the winter.

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And the 1960s Olympics, don't you? Oh, that's right. Squaw Valley.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Well, it's over across the Well, it was everywhere.

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It was everywhere. Yeah.

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Joni and I stay at her brother's on Westlake.

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Yeah.

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And have seen the cross-country giant part of the campground on I don't know why I'm doing this and talking slow. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about on the wheels?

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Uh-huh. When you do that with your hand, I I know exactly what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

The biathlon area. That's perfect. Oh, it's got signage and you go, this is cool.

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I'm there. I'm there with you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It was fun growing up there.

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I got it's such a fun place. When when I wake up and I'm looking at the lake and and you could see across the lake to where would I be looking at with the ski uh on the west shore? Yeah, this heavenly valley.

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Yeah. You'd be looking at at s at South Shore, yeah, Heavenly, I think. Yeah.

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Yeah. Magic.

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Mm-hmm.

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Fun place.

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Magic. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

So came to Humboldt.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Yeah. Came to Humboldt for school.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Who did?

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Did the thing and Oh, this is where I use the prop.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

You're gonna love this. So this is my uh new prop, a little gift that somebody got me. And this is uh the map.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Oh, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Zoom on the map. So we're in Eureka. Okay. And Humboldt State is up here.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

And Tao's way over here.

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Oh yeah. Uh-huh. It's yeah. Oh, it's like here over here.

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It's around the planet over there.

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In the corner of the curtain.

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But yeah, we're right in there. So hey, gotta get the prop in.

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Mm-hmm. I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah, my little laser. Uh-huh. Don't point it in your eye.

SPEAKER_03 4:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

I remember. What's the Christmas story that with he can't get to the case?

SPEAKER_03 4:56

I go shoot your eye out, kid.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

You gotta shoot your eye out. Shoot your eye out. So no uh no lasers and no baby guns for us. So what just studied Spanish?

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Studied Spanish and psychology. Yeah. Part of that time I lived in Chile, also, Santiago, and I went to university there. Cool. That was great. Lived with a whole family.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Spreck in Spanish there too, I bet.

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Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Is it standard Spanish? Not Portuguese. That's Brazilian. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

How about Chile was fun?

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Chile was really fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Is that Patagonia or is that Argentina?

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Yeah. Patagonia is in Chile. It's in both in the very southern tip of Chile and Argentina, but yeah. That's why I'm doing this with my hand. It's the southern part.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

I'm seeing it now.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

But Chile was, yeah, Santiago is is in Chile. And then I just I didn't have that much school to go to. So I just traveled a lot and explored a lot.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Wow. Just solo?

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

I was trying to I went there with a program, like a a study abroad program and made some friends within that. But yeah, afterwards I stayed for probably two months and up and down the the whole country. Went to spent some time in Peru and Bolivia.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah, Machu Picchu. Yeah. But that's glorious.

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It was glorious. Yeah, it was incredible. Wow. Yeah, it's really truly a wonder.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

And the food's quite good there.

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In Chile? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

It's great. It's uh it's like they don't like spice there. So it's just um like my memory is like white bread and cheese, actually. Okay. And instant coffee. That's like the staple. Uh-huh. It was not the food was not why I went.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

I was thinking of Argentina and the beef.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Oh, Argentina's probably amazing. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They yeah, they would have great barbecues. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Right.

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Yeah.

First Spark Toward Midwifery

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Cool. So is part were you into midwifery at this point?

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Mm-hmm. No.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Not at all. How did that happen? So you came back to the States? Yeah. And were you and Adam at all connected at that point?

YWAM Canada And Myanmar Missions

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Yeah. We were dating. So we dated our first my first three years of college. And that trip to Chile, that that um half a year was like my third year of college. And then I came back here to the States. Um then we were not together. This is a season I refer to as like the dark years. We were not the dark. We had some figuring out to do. We were really young when we got together. Wow. And we had some figuring out to do. Wow. Um, but so I came back and one of my roommates in college was studying to be a nurse, a nurse midwife. And it was just so fascinating to me, actually. Like her books, her videos, her like I would have so much rather been studying her stuff, but I was kind of like, you know, three almost four years into this degree. So I I kept with it. Um, but in the back of my mind, it was just stirring. It was like always this like interest that I had. Wow. Um and so it wasn't till so I actually graduated, moved back to Tahoe. No, wait. Sorry. I'm forgetting my own life. I I actually moved to um Canada. And I did a I started my career with YWAM. That's youth with a mission. Right. And I did my first my discipleship training school with them. In Vancouver or where? In um just south of Banff in Alberta. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, south of Calgary. So we got some like good hockey games in and it'd be fun. Yeah. Um so started that, and then we went to Southeast Asia, Myanmar, and it was like war-torn. It was actually kind of nuts. It was like it was the kind time in the country where my mom was saving all of the newspaper articles on how dangerous it was there. And I'm like, I'm going there, mom. So she just saved those articles just in case I like maybe never made it home. Or I'm I'm not sure why, but just had them on hand as a momentum.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

I thought you'd be mailing them to your registry.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Maybe it was more like this is what you put me through. This is all I heard. And you yeah. So what'd the team do in Myanmar? We did a lot of uh a lot of traveling. You know, we had to be pretty underground as like as mission-minded people. We were pretty underground. So we did a lot of relationship building, encouraging people, people who had faith but couldn't really seek it out or express it or anything.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

It was I love it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

I like mission-minded. That's a really cool way to say that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Mission-minded.

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Because that means a lot of I think a lot of good things in my brain.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Yeah. Who were probably pretty broken and war torn and all that crazy.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Uh-huh. And and like church was illegal and meetings like like Christian meetings were kind of illegal. So it was all pretty underground.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Wow.

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So they had to be pretty discreet about their faith. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

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What did Myanmar used to be?

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Um Burma.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

It's Burma. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

It was Burma. Now it's Myanmar.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

So it's not Indonesia, it's up in towards the It's all Asia.

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It's South Southeast Asia. South Southeast, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

How long were you there?

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Maybe six weeks. Rad. Yeah. We had yeah. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

So that was one of them. This is not Canada anymore, folks. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. But we went in as Canadians. That was very helpful. You know, because yeah, sometimes traveling as an American, it's not like so favorable. Don't you know?

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

So we all we proudly wore our maple leaf flag kind of things on our backpacks.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Go uh what's the team in uh uh Winnipeg? Is that what you said? I'm thinking of the hockey team up there. Oh, you're thinking of the flames? The Calgary Flames. Calgary Flames.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

Calgary Flames. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Go flames.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah, go flames. That's the only hockey tea hockey game I've ever been to.

SPEAKER_00 10:37

Wait, it's really hot here. Why is she wearing a giant hockey hockey shirt?

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Sorry. Yeah. You do what you can do. Don't you know? We were um where were we? We were talking to somebody recently. They said, you know, where we traveled, it's just better to not be come off as an American. Just be cool about the American thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

Mm-hmm. I I always try to pretend I'm someone else probably when I'm traveling.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Yeah, that's good. I think they pulled it off because they they pulled it off as they were Canadian. Yeah, it's brilliant. It was kind of a funny story. It was I'm going, oh, okay. What I discovered when we were in the Netherlands the last three summers is that everybody, including, you know, um locals and travelers, love the New York Yankees. Who's got a Yankee hat? Wow. I hate the Yankees. They suck. You know? They buy their championships. Uh love you Yankee fans, but sorry, just being real. Um but yeah, that was interesting to see that American symbol uh flown with great fashion grooviness.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

I had no idea to think about that.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

So you traveled a lot. That's cool. It sounds like you'd really So did you midwife travel then after that, after midwifery? So you I'm ahead of your story. So you came back from uh came back to Canada?

Teaching In Tahoe And Big Plans

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Yeah, I came back from Canada, back from Asia, back from Canada. Then I uh didn't think I would be in Tahoe, but I did. I did land myself in Tahoe, came back to visit my family, and ended up got I ended up getting a teaching job actually for the whole year. Wow. And I was like very reluctant. I got hired the day school started.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

At a private school in Truckee. And because my friend was teaching at that school and he's like, we really need a Spanish teacher. And I was like, okay. I sure okay. Just for just for half the year. I literally was so terrified of staying. I just I was like just ready to go in the world. And my plan actually was to go to Afghanistan and teach English. And just all these things kept stopping me. So I started to pay attention to that. Um anyway, so got this job teaching and I did end up staying the whole school year. But it was, it was fantastic. I I was the Spanish teacher, and then they were like, Can you uh what what science did you do? And I was like, Oh, I took like biology and stuff in college. They're like, Great, great, you'll teach biology. Wow. And they're like, How's your math? I'm like, I mean, I took like algebra two in high school. They're like, good enough, great. So I was teaching all of a sudden I'm teaching math, science, uh Spanish one and two, biology. It was crazy. Everything. I wasn't even old enough to drive the kids to the uh field trips. I was 23. Wow. And so I would have to like go in the vans with the parents and the kids because I wasn't old enough to drive them myself.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Just like liability driving the giant bus.

Midwifery School In Perth

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Yeah. Yeah. Just thrown into it. So that was like this like kind of odd year in between college and then when I started my midwifery school, which was the following year in Australia. Wow. So that's where I did my school.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Aaron Powell You're like the most traveled person I think I know. Or you were. Now we just go back and forth from Eureka.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Yeah. Yep. Eureka, Arcada.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Could be worse.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

A lot of worse places to live, I think.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

So you tr so how does that add up then? Do the math. So you've traveled the I want to go back to Australia in a minute. You've got you've gone here, you've gone there, you went over there. What how do we add up to how does Eureka and Humboldt stack up to the world in general?

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Hmm. That's an interesting question.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

That's pretty big. So you could however you want to answer it.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Yeah. I think to be honest, I love Humboldt and there's aspects of Humboldt that are very precious. But I think that Humboldt if you stay too long, sometimes I think you can lose your sight of what of what the world is. Can get a little bit small-minded here, is what I've experienced.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

I think it's good. If I could say that.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

Is that okay?

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Totally. It's honest. It's it's critical and it's good. I think there's small-mindedness abounding here.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

There's obstructionists, there's and they come in all colors and all political parties of just narrow.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Just kind of get a little trapped here behind that redwood curtain and and forgetting that like the world is so big and accessible and yeah. So big. So big. So big.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

And I said, you're very kind and diplomatic. And I said, narrow. Why are you why are we so narrow? That's true. Whenever we get out, like we just got back to Sonoma County bike race, and Joni rode 68 miles.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

She's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Ran into her brother randomly, Rando and Really? In Windsor, the bear counter. I go, hey, that looks like Uncle Scott.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

No kidding, really?

SPEAKER_00 15:25

It's her brother. She goes, No. The guy looks exactly like him. I go, because it is him. It was. And they didn't know each other were racing. Oh, that's crazy. They hit it off, and they live they have the place Tahoe, but they live in El Dorado. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Hi her brother's name is Scott. Scott Hanson. And her husband's name is Scott Hammond.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Joni. She married her brother. Wait. We're also follically challenged. No, he's one of my I I like to copy Jason Shea's line. He's one of my favorite humans. He's just a he's just a great and Valerie's wife, so substantiating a nice guy who's backed by a magical wife, who's uh one of the first elders in their church at Lakeside Church in Folsom. And just a heavy heart, big heart for women's ministry and and g and gals and young young women and uh mission-minded.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

Yeah, mission-minded.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

So we're back to Australia. Australia.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Yeah, Australia.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

And we're not gonna be narrow-minded anymore. No. Right? That's a big country. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

And so what happened in Australia?

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Yeah. So I was in Perth on the western side, which is the most isolated city in the world. Oh wow. Just fun fact. The closest next big city to Perth is in Indonesia. Crazy. Isn't that crazy? That's how far out it is.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Is that desert side and aboriginal over there?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

That's wild. It's just there's just nothing in the in the middle. There's nothing. Is it a port? Um yeah. Yeah. America's Cup was there. That's their big claim to fame, is that they hosted maybe even the first America's Cup or many of them.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

This is the yachting event. Yes. Mm-hmm. Those guys are hardcore.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

They are hardcore. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Right, Nick? I'm breaking the fifth wall of Nick here. Yeah. Yeah. Is he saying yes?

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Nick's over there nodding. He's saying yes. Yeah. Yes, hardcore. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I like to mention Nick, Nick, Flores, Grong Pain's. Other giant podcaster in Humboldt. Yeah. He's got 7,000 episodes. No.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

So not he's hitting buttons. Is he muting you?

SPEAKER_00 17:23

No, I don't know. Scott's saying different things though. It's weird. Stop. Um so how long were you in Perth?

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Okay, I was in Perth. Oh, how long ago?

SPEAKER_00 17:33

No, how long were you there?

SPEAKER_02 17:34

I was there. So I was based out of there for two years. We would do the school was one year. It was like a 20, it was a two-year school condensed into 12 months. Like eat, sleep, sleep, breathe, everything mid-free. Wow. Training and and um delivering. So it was like high intensity kind of thing. So we were in in Perth for about three or four months, um studying with like nurses and doctors and midwives. And then we did a field assignment, and that would be like nine months of the year. So that was kind of the structure of the school. Three months in Australia, nine months abroad.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Go do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

And we went to Nigeria, was our assignment. Oh, wow. Knew nothing about Nigeria before going.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

So you didn't go to the Outback, you went to the African Outback.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

We went to the African Outback, yes. Very, very teeny tiny town. We worked at a hospital that had no running water or electricity in the beginning. Wow. And it was like, oh, here we are. Walked to our job, this tiny hospital.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Wow.

Nigeria Birth Work And Clean Water

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Yeah. So that was my school. I was a student on that school. And that was all like World Health Organization standards. So yeah, we did that. We we found that there actually weren't enough births happening in that little tiny village. Um, they actually lied about it. They lied about the number of births to get us to go there. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

So they they deflated the number.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

No, they inflated. They were like, oh yeah, we have probably like 50 a month. And we were like, it's more like four or five. So we were like, that's not enough to get us trained. So we ended up moving to Port Harcourt, which is a port town south south of there in Nigeria.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Nigeria too.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

A little bit more developed. Yeah. We worked at like a maternity hospital, a government hospital. We worked at a lot of different places to get the training.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

And I just discovered a really cool mission-minded group called Water for Good.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

And Water for Good, my fellow State Farm agent, uh his name's actually Jake, which is kind of funny. Jake Stewart, what's up? And they have 92% of their wells are still functioning.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Oh, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Aaron Powell versus 50 within the first year of failures of others. So they're and water has such a trickle-down effect. See what I do with that. Um because um it's just so important, as you would know.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

It's so important having been there.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Um kids are not getting sick anymore. People are st girls are staying in school, guys are staying in school, getting graduated, and just what a uh a cool, wonderful blessing it is to be part of bringing water. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I leave the w my son leaves the water on. Hey man.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

I know we're so lucky. We don't even think about it. My children don't even know to worry about water at all. Yeah. They have grown up s in such a fortunate situation as far as that goes. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's such a issue. It's such a real issue that people are dying of dysentery and um not clean water, can't wash your hands.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

And they these guys do a whole education because a lot of people put their dishes in the dirt where there's fecal matter to dry the dishes or whatever. And it's like, whoa, no, no, don't do that. Or people have to schlep water for miles with the big tooth on the back.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Mm-hmm. We saw that. We lived in that village, like just that's how they they work, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:54

You gotta go get water.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

Yep. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Man.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Yeah, it's really, it's really important. So when we weren't doing direct maternal child health care, we were doing um clinics on just basic sanit sanitization or like just hygiene, really basic hygiene, which is like life-saving. That's one on one, right? Yep. We ran a lot of clinics. We would do we did a lot of AIDS and HIV awareness. We did a lot of like just just hygiene awareness. Um malaria is huge there. Malaria is like still true? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

HIV is probably reduced, right? Some way?

unknown 21:31

Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

I hope so. So this was like this was over 20 years ago. So I think it's raging probably. I have a feeling that it's probably a lot better now. Um and I think that malaria is maybe a bit better. Probably.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

I know Uganda's heavy aid HIV. Yeah, tough. Yeah. We kind of forget about stuff and go, hey, what's for dinner?

SPEAKER_03 21:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Um I know. Gee, I have too many channels to watch tonight. What am I gonna what are we gonna do? And get mad because there's death and on.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

I know. First world problems. I know. Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

The bless the cursing of the blessing.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Yeah, I have to like pinch myself every once in a while and and like remind myself of where I've lived and like how life is outside of um here. It's it's um it's a struggle, like a real struggle for dental help today. You did?

SPEAKER_00 22:25

Doctor Russell Jones.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Worked on my teeth.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

It's like oh that's That's a blessing.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

That's a huge blessing.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

The tennis might come through a African village once a year or two, five years. Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 22:37

Yeah. The things that we get to worry about here are sometimes privileges.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

We're so you graduated the program?

India Hospitals And Birth Intensity

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Graduated the program. Congrats. Yeah. And then I stayed on another year and I was a supervisor. So then I was like the teacher for the next round of students.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

In Perth.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Yeah. In Perth. Um in Perth for three months. And then we that year's assignment was in India and Nepal. So we spent spent about six months in Hyderabad, which is a huge city in India, in the middle of India. And yeah. And the and chaotic and busy. We worked at the busiest uh hospital in Asia for deliveries. There's like 30 births a day in this one hospital.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

So how many births have you attended, do you think, if you just like ballpark? Thousands?

SPEAKER_02 23:23

I know I get asked this. Hundred it's in the hundreds. It's like more than seven hundred, probably less than a thousand. I'm figuring it's like somewhere in like eight hundred and I don't know. It's such a raw.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

I mean, I've done nine of these. Have I done nine? I've not done any of them.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Nine.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

I've attended nine.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Of your own. That's very significant.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

I think I fell asleep a little bit with Kalia. Sorry, Khalia.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

I do not think you're supposed to say this on air.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

I think I nodded just for a minute. Judy will correct me. Or bust me.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

You're gonna be busted.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

It's such a um it's intense. It's like the most raw thing. Other than maybe a like a really radical fist fight.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

I've never I've never done that personally.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

A fist fight?

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Good. May you may you resist that. Yeah. May that not come. Maybe I don't need to. No. Bypass by all means.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

Yeah, but it's like exhausting no matter how smooth or good or whatever. It's like emotionally draining on a very deep level.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

The ebbs and flows. Here come oh, here comes the contractions. Oh, it's go time. It's like, and no, maybe not. Uh-oh. And then we ramp up again.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

And then the joy. And then oh look, here's our new best friend.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Yeah. Our new best friend. Hey, Calia, what's up? Yeah. The joy for the parents, usually for us, that moment of birth is the most intense. It's where when we're holding, we're all holding our breaths.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Are you saying is it midwife or is it birth of a mother?

SPEAKER_02 24:58

As a midwife.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah, because you have four daughters.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

I have three daughters. Three daughters. As a midwife, I don't breathe until everybody's okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

So you're totally bested and present.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Yeah. Yeah. No matter how many hours you've been up ahead of time.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

You probably know this. We had uh Brianna at home. She was only five pounds.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

She was six. I didn't know that. Six weeks early. Doctor, what's his name in West Haven said, Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Oh. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

It was attended by midwives. Okay. And we and she was great.

SPEAKER_03 25:28

She's about like a little kitty. Little tiny. She's really teeny tiny.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

And now she's a major force in the universe with three sons and kind of a badass.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Terrific daughter. And mom. And wife. Hi Brie. That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny how that goes. And if we had to do that over, I'd go, hmm. That was high risk activity here.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Six weeks early is too early for us now.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Yeah, pretty early.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

We'll do three weeks early.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

That's the cutoff. Three weeks early, two weeks late. That's your window.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

So I want to get to Ina May and talk about Rosa Dixon, who you might know, and some of the ladies that will get there. In the meantime, if you're just joining us, it's me, your uh new best friend Scott Hammond and the 100% humble. You can look right up here, too.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Oh gosh. We're being filmed.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

We are. Oh all the way through.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I did not realize that.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

Oh, that's great. You're doing good. With my new best friend, Deanna Dick. And um so you came back from that mission, birth mission field. And how many years were you gone there?

SPEAKER_02 26:26

That was two total. Yeah. Yeah, two years total.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Um came back and met this guy at Adam Remote. We already knew, yeah. Remet him. Remet.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

We were like talking, I guess you would say. The teenagers would say that. Um we were kind of talking through that whole phase, but I was just so I was so gone in such remote parts of the world that it didn't I mean, it's not like we were really talking.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

It's like you joined the service, you know, out of here.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Yeah. And it and also remember that I am old enough to wear this was like 20, this was over 20 years ago. This is 20 like five years ago, 23 years ago. So like email was like barely a thing, kind of a thing, but definitely not Nigeria.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Calling was crazy money.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

Calling, yeah, was crazy money. So that we nobody had cell phones really.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

A satellite phone was cr you couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Yeah, we didn't have a cell phone. I so I really just wasn't in touch with anyone. I did this was sad, but I um I had prepared for this, but I my grandma passed away when I was living in Nigeria in that little village. And I got the news um via so my mom had emailed it to some random email thing that we got ahead of time. It got got to this office, got printed out, got given to a kid, it got given to another guy, got given to another guy who drove it on his motorcycle. I received it like two weeks later as a printed out piece of paper, like kind of a letter that like Mopsy had passed away.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Wow. So I was like, That's not that long ago. And now it would be a three-second text. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

We're so connected.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

I'd bounce off a city of light and we'd be there.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

Weird, huh?

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Yeah. That's what's weird. You know, I could be driving and and get I don't even watch the news and I'll get the news. Yeah. Hey, we just went to war. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Yeah. We're so connected. Like the world has um shrunken in that way.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

It is big, but it now it's small, kind of.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

It's shrunk. Yeah. So you got back home.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Got back home.

Getting Licensed In California

SPEAKER_00 28:23

And now you're certified certifiable. You're certified midwife.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Certifiable, crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Yeah. So I got I so all of that that I did was a ton of experience, tons of births, tons of hands-on everything, um, including C-sections, assisting and surgery and everything like that. Things that I've like not even done here. Wow. Um, but the school was not accredited with um California Medical Board or whatever in the US. So um I so I so in order to get licensed here, I thought I thought I was gonna have to go to nursing school. I really didn't want to because it's I just really was interested in the midwifery part. So um at the time, the licensure for California, they were giving they were opting for a challenge. Uh what is it called?

SPEAKER_00 29:09

It was called a um you petition it or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Yeah, it was called a portfolio process challenge. So you could put together your entire portfolio of all your experience and everything, and then still work with a licensed midwife.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

And then they could bless you with that.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

They could yeah, they could see that like, yes, she's not lying about these skills or whatever and whatever, assign you off on certain things. Then you'd like hire someone to do a skills assessment. It was like a five-hour they'd watch you do all the things.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

The whole process.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

A whole process, yeah. And then I sat for there's an eight-hour exam that I sat for, and that licensed me for Northern California. So that's I'm in um Northern America. North America. Okay. Canada, US, Mexico. So then once you've got that license, then you can apply for your state license. Oh, okay. Which in California, of course, they're like, oh, we would like extra money and you have to take an extra test. So wait. It's just it's brand new, I think. I I think they just Oh, everything.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Yeah, everything's got a fee. There will be there will be fees. There would be fees.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

There would be fees. So there was extra fees to be licensed in California, but um, that is part of the medical board of California. So like the same certifying process.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

What did you love about the pro about the uh the whole training? My training overseas? All of it. What what top three things you loved about it?

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Oh um exposure, probably. I could hit everything. I did everything and I just jumped in. Um and nobody was like, you're maybe not good at that. They'd just be like, you're here, so you could probably do that.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

You're helpful?

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah. And I was like, up for everything. So I got tons of exposure, tons of experience. Yeah. Wow. IVs, shots, suturing, even assisting in in surgery. Like that's not a thing you would do here.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Crazy stories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Yeah. Um I really loved being in different cultures. I think that's just like a part of my heart and my like personhood. Yeah. So living like amongst people, live eating the food they eat, dressing how they dress.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

That's beautiful. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Caring for people, love it on them.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Yeah. Yeah. Just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

It's good. It's kind of a Jesus thing. We'll say the J-word on live here on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Live on air.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Almost live.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

I mean, you know, go do likewise.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Totally. I do think that I think that what Jesus would have us do is to understand people and who they are in their context. So that was it's it's really, really hard to offer anything to somebody if you're not willing to like see them and live like them, I think.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

So to come in as like a foreigner.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

And kind of the most intimate life experience to share that is kind of earn respect. I mean, there's a whole lot of levels to that that relationship that are wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Good for you.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

It says a lot. It's pretty rad.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

And that was the YWAM way. Like YWAM taught us that. You know, that was YWAM was definitely like, we're not here to change cultures or to change um pe people, but we're here to present something. If if anybody wants something that we have, we're here to like share a good story. Or hanging out. Good news. Yeah. And um felt needs first. So in that in the communities that we were in, there was so much um need for health care, basic health care, and then midwifery care, prenatal care, care for just care. Yeah. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

I'm gonna take a stab at YWAM. Ywam.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Y Wham.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Youth with a Mission, founded in nineteen forty-eight by Dr. Lauren somebody.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Cunningham.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Cunningham. Is that who it is? Yeah. I almost got it.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Good job, Scott. I don't I didn't know the year.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Almost nailed it. Uh-huh. I lied. I don't know what year it was. But I knew it was Dr. Lauren Cunningham when you said Cunningham.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Yeah, they're they're still around, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:56

Mm-hmm. Youth with a mission. Some people think it's young women after men or youth without any money. But it is in it is true.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Could be with a mission.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

The others are true too. We don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Maybe. Could be.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

No, I know they have the big base at Kona and the big island. It's in Kona. Kailua. Kailua Kona.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Yeah, Kailua Kona. Yeah, there's a big base there. The Perth is a really big base. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And there's lots of branches of healthcare within it now. They do lots of things.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

So your faith really has fueled a lot of your love for midwifery and the people in it.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Yeah. Yeah. Originally it's what led me to that school for sure. That it was YWAM, it was accessible. And it was like, I, you know, I had been traveling, like we mentioned before, like had been traveling a lot in the world and just was kind of felt like wouldn't it be nice to like offer something? I didn't feel like I had anything to offer. So and I didn't want to just keep like going to these places and just kind of travel for travel's sake or travel to explore that place or whatever it felt like.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

Now you got a skill set.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

Yeah. It was kind of like what can I give back? And I didn't at that point I didn't feel like I had anything. I thought, I think I need to be medically trained in order to be actual help, a helpful person. So that's how it started. And then I did end up coming back here with all that.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

I love it. Helpful person. That's my mission.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

I want to be a helpful person.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Oh, it's good. How can I help the basic 101? So we came back and re met this guy named Adam Dick.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Yep. Remet him. Is he still around? He's around. Is he? Yeah. What's up, Adam? What's up, Adam?

SPEAKER_00 34:35

His name is on this chocolate bar. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

Yeah. He sent us with goodies today.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Thank you, Adam.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Thank you, Adam.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Wow. Um, and so kind of a cool story. See, it's kind of a cool love story that you guys were remote and you went away in the in service and served your other countries.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Served God and served everybody and helped help, like you said. Yeah. And then came back and you guys kind of rekindled your life together.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yep. That's a cool story.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah. Yeah. It definitely took me a bit to like figure it out. But yeah, I I came back and then within a year of coming back, it took me a while. I was swirling around, you know, like lots of cultural Detox. Detox and just what do you call it when it's um the opposite, like culture shock, but like reverse culture shock. I think I was having that of like, I'm supposed to be American. This is supposed to be normal, and I can't figure this out.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

This is weird.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Like, why are there 17,000 kinds of toothpaste? It was freaking me out.

SPEAKER_00 35:36

Look at all the cereal on the shelf.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Uh shampoo. The first time I went to a grocery store and I came back, I I I had to walk out. I was only there to buy shampoo and conditioner, and I couldn't shock make a decision. I was like, I don't what what do I do? There's too many.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Yeah. So yeah. That's weird, right?

SPEAKER_02 35:53

Yeah. It took me a while.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

So Where'd you live? Did you back in Tahoe or here?

SPEAKER_02 35:57

I came back here, actually. Came back here to humble.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Is Adam still here?

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Yeah, he was here. I came back here to figure things out with him. Okay. Yeah, that was like the intention.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Was he making chocolate then or was it just a carpenter?

SPEAKER_02 36:08

No, it wasn't even a he didn't even eat chocolate back then.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

He was a carpenter. It's out, folks, the chocolate maker.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

He was eating Skittles all day long. Skittles. Oh wait, he still does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

You're outing Adam left. I know, I am. I know. Poor Adam. I know.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Sorry, bro. No, he knows. He would say that to anyone.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Maybe they'll do a Skittles uh flavor of the month, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Oh yeah, like on the back of the bar.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

What's it called? It's their your flavor of the month.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

The micro batch.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Micro batch.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

You could do a like Skittles.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Johnny was drinking wine once down. We were having a tasting.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

And we she took a sip of the wine. And she goes, he goes, What do you get? And she goes, Skittles. Oh. Oh. The guy brightened up. He goes, you know, we get that once in a while. Oh, really? I go.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

That's the that's the flavor profile. It was sub Zen.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

It was kind of had some sweetness and who knows.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

So let's talk about Humboldt for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Um so you actually we'll do that in a second. So I just want to wrap your story. So you came back, rekindled with Adam. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Got married within like a year later, basically, after coming back. And then he was a builder for you still doing midwifery or just so I was like trying to figure it out because um like my school didn't transfer over. So then I was trying to figure out. Then I re got a job at uh Full Circle Center for Integrative Medicine. So I was kind of a OB-ish kind of person. And just trying to I was just trying to sort it out.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Are you still here?

SPEAKER_02 37:34

Uh yeah. Yeah, Connie Bash, Dr. Bash.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Oh, it's Dr. Bash, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Hi, Connie.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Hi, Connie. She's great. Yeah. Yeah. So she took me in. Yeah. Oh yeah. She's an amazing doctor. So um, yeah, I was just sorting through it all. It just it didn't totally, it wasn't straightforward for me because I went the back road. And there was only like one or two midwifery schools in the US at that time. Wow. So that's when I s figured out I could do that portfolio process. Then I s got approached by somebody and said, Hey, do you want to start a midwifery practice with me? Wow. And I was like, uh, while I work on my licensing, I sure, I guess. So then yeah, so then it kind of basically was like fast-forwarded my track to having a practice, getting a license.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

What was that called?

Building Practices And Joining Moonstone

SPEAKER_02 38:19

It was called that first one was called Serenade Midwifery. And then um, and then that morphed into a different practice with um one of my very original partners, Brandy Perez, and that we've started Wellspring Family Midwifery.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

So that was just a couple years after I got back.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

And now you're at Moonstone.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Now I'm at Moonstone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

And they're are they did they rebuild it or move the building?

SPEAKER_02 38:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

They were in Valley East Boulevard.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

Valley East, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

And where are they now?

SPEAKER_02 38:46

They're um on Harrison, right across from the hospital.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

I'm almost going to do the map.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Do the map. If you show the hospital entrance right across the street, pretty much is is our birth center now. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Oh perfectly. Yeah. Fun fact about that was that that Wellspring Family Middle-free, we uh Brandy and I started that, and then we had Laura Doyle come in as a um, she was an apprentice first and then got licensed um with us in our practice. Yeah. Well, she is now my boss. So she so hey Laura, she owns, along with Callista Young, they both own Moonstone Midwives.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

And I voted for them best of humble North Coast German for many years in a row.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

That's very kind of you.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Yeah. Our daughter Brianna had a baby there.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Had a baby. She'd probably know that it was Dax. I I really don't know.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Some some babies.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

One of one of the big things. Or they attended. Maybe they attended. Would they have attended a birth at Mad River when they were doing births?

SPEAKER_02 39:43

No.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

They would do it in their tank or at their facility.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

In their tank. Yes. They they would either do a home birth or a birth in their facility. Yeah. If they're at Mad River, then it means that they had to go there for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Aaron Powell I'm a huge fan. Our first baby Jesse, who's 40 now in Seoul, South Korea, doctorate in Polly Cy from Davis. Uh born at home in um in Bayside. We called Dr. Marty Smuckler.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

We paged him.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

It's 9 30. Joni's going into labor.

unknown 40:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

He's there at 10. Had to pull him out of the movies and he had to go to Philbrook and get his gear and come back with his wife. And at 10 30, Jesse was born.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

And we had some newts. Remember the Newtons Natural Juice? Yeah. Co-hop.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Chugged some juice, went to bed, and it's like, oh, right as rain. This is this how it's supposed to go? Yeah. Isn't there supposed to be some hullabaloo or some lights or nurses or freak out? No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Nobody freaked out.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

This is it, man. She's champion birther.

unknown 40:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Well, that was her first baby. That sounds like very smooth. Oh, second. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Yeah, we did two more after that. Abby and Brie were both at home. Yeah. And I caught Brie. Or did I catch Abby? I'm going to catch the city. You should not be saying these things on the heck is what I'm going to catch.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

You should not say these out loud on air where people can record you.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Yeah, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Your children are listening.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Dad, don't you remember this? Don't you remember every detail? Killing me, dad.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Yeah. Yeah, it's really special. I love it when the dads like want to get in there and catch their babies. It's so special.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

And Dr. Scott Gavin at um at Mad River did a um what's it were your butts first? Not your head? Did a breach with Michaela.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

Awesome. That is so special. Sagile. Good. Pretty rad. That is so good.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

What a nice man he was. Yeah. The sweetheart.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

That's hard to get someone to agree to do that here.

Humboldt Birth Options After Closures

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Yeah. Yeah. Not not Nemo. So uh Mad River's no longer doing births. So let's talk about births as it relates to Humboldt. Uh what are we what's the picture? Yeah. What's the scoop?

SPEAKER_02 41:44

The scoop is there used to be three hospitals delivering. So that was Mad River in Arcata, Fortuna, Redwood Memorial in Fortuna, and then St. Joe's and Eureka. So four. Um three. I I meant three, yeah. Yeah. Three. And so the only one still delivering is St. Joe's, Providence. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

Not Redwood Memorial. You got to do that.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Not Redwood Memorial and not Mad River. And then Garberville also is not delivering.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Crescent City, do they have babies then?

unknown 42:09

No.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

Well, I actually really don't know what's going on in Crescent City. We get we get people coming down from Crescent City to deliver with us.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

A lot of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

It might be like if you can't I'm not really sure. I shouldn't speak to that because I don't know exactly, but I don't think they have a specific.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Maybe go to Medford or Department.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

They might go or Brookings or something. Brookings. They either come down or go up, is what I understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so so your options now used to be like hospital or home birth. Now the options are hospital at Providence or Birth Center with Moonstone right across the way. Um and and maybe if you're lucky, you might find an occasional home birth midwife that that is there's there's just like not a lot. It seems like the the huge group of midwives back um a couple decades ago, there was like 15 or 16. It just seemed like there's so many.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

Did you know Jan and Barbara and Celine?

SPEAKER_02 43:03

I sat at Jan's feet and just was, you know, I was a student of hers. I had to I had to figure out how to undo a lot of the stuff I learned overseas uh and translate it to California birthday.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

They were a trip, but I really learned a lot from from them and they were sweet. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

Got to dance with Joni while she's in labor and all the things. So sweet. And she shared with you, she goes, I tithe, actually. I don't go to church. I'm not really a God sort of person. But I give 10% of my income away.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

Is that Jan?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

I go, what a great principle you're mastering there. Yeah. She is a really amazing human. By the way, God showed you that probably. Just for the record. Yeah, she's sweetheart. And Barbara's still around, I think, right?

SPEAKER_02 43:41

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Yeah. And Celine works for something. Joni told me. Anyway, who works?

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah. But the good things you do remember. My kids' births. But you remember exactly.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

I know their names. I barely know birthdays.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

The names are a really good start. That's very good. Yeah. That's a good like that's pretty good.

The Humboldt Quiz And Real Life

SPEAKER_00 44:02

The thing is like with Mike and Aaron, we have to like call them like four other guy names, the brothers. For it. Aaron, Joan, Ryan, Jesse, Jacob. Oh, you're Aaron. Aaron, come here. It's like stop doing that. Yeah. So hey, quiz time. We can't go by without a quiz. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

A quiz? Oh. Oh, pressure's on. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

So this is uh the quiz that we do on the show. And for you, no exception. Okay. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

It's for all the money, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

No pressure. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Looks like you're kind of pressured by I really like to do well in school.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

So one of those competitive overachiever control freak people.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

How do I know that?

SPEAKER_02 44:43

No idea.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

I know I did.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

It doesn't show at all.

SPEAKER_00 44:45

No. I don't care. I'm letting it go, man. Just a podcast. We're having fun. Um if you got the day off and you could do anything you could in Humboldt County. Ooh, in Humboldt. Which is in California. What would you do, Deanna Dick? What would you what would you go?

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Find the whole day off.

SPEAKER_00 45:03

And money's not a problem, but you gotta stay in the county.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Okay. Gotta stay in the county. I would uh ideal day. Ideal day. I'd go for a big hike, like in one of the beautiful forests. Maybe I'd maybe I'd hike all the way up to the top of uh Headwaters. Oh wow. You know, it's like Joni's done that. It's like six or seven miles up there.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

It's a ways when you get back.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Yeah. And then have a delicious meal somewhere. Maybe on the rooftop. That's a great little place in Eureka.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Oh, the sushi?

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Yeah. They have other things that sushi. They do, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Great. Yeah. And it's gotta be sunny if I if we're doing this. If you can sit up. The sun has to be out and it has to be at least like 68. Please. Maybe 70.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

All four days of the year that we get there.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

Yes. So I'll take one of those days for this ideal day.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Just for the record. Don't come to Humboldt. It's always rains and it's just terrible. And it it's always 40 degrees and foggy. Just for the record.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

It's great a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

It is great.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Like today. Yeah. And I'd end it. Maybe I'd end it with like a picnic dinner with probably some wine and chocolate and food.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

Does that mean outdoor? Okay. Yeah. Oh, that'd be fun.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

On a warm day, that would be perfect.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

That it will be warm because that's the day that I'm choosing. One of those four.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Yeah. So one of the things that we do with the with Dick Taylor chocolate is we talk about them. But we uh Jody and I go up to um to Scenic Drive between north of Moonstone, pull the van over and have a little picnic.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

And what's cool is even when it's 63 and the sun's setting off the ocean, uh-huh, the refraction makes it 75. And I I jump right into my Speedo.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

And it's like I knew it. I knew you were a speedo guy.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Oh no. Go, okay, now he's making it weird. Um so and it's just the ideal date night. We discovered that during COVID. Yeah. I'm going, why would we why why would we leave Humboldt? It's like this is five minutes away. Cheap date. Yeah. Super fun. Talk to people and it's sunny. And the sometimes you see whales, sometimes you see tons of surfers.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

And it there's always kind of something going on. We saw a guy do a like a base jump with a glider parachute thing. He did it like five times.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

He's gonna die. Oh, I'm just a guy from Ashland. Okay, good. Oregon way to go, bro.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Never got hurt. He flew.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

I need to find this secret spot where it's 75 degrees.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Yeah. We'd tell you, but we'd have to tell you. It's it's north of here.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Off air. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Off air. Let me point at it. It's right over there. So now question number two.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

What's soul crushing for you and what's life-giving for you?

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Soul crushing is when somebody says they're gonna do something and then they don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

That's hard for me.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Lies all.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

Just expectations.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

House of lies.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

That's soul crushing. Uh soul giving is uh sunshine. People showing up in like small or big ways. Um yeah, I like surprises, like good surprises. Good surprises. Yeah, like I like getting out of town too. Like that's that lifts that like gets my head out of the fog.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

So you have a kid at UCSD, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

So San Diego's no bad place to do.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

That's not a terrible place to go. You could do a lot worse. Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Hometown.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Yeah. That's your hometown?

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Homeboy. Yes. Yes. National City, OTNC.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Oh, yes. Yeah. I know. That's it is a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

What's it? Uh El Gordo Tacos.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Oh, muy bueno.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

I think I live. I think what do we go down there to live on tacos?

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

It's just like it's the taco capital.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

It's beer. I mean the beer in Portland and Ben and San Diego's world class, but sorry. Um it's there's a there's a some Mexican food here that's but it's not.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

Yeah, it's not San Diego Mexican.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

It ain't that.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Uh question number three. For all the money.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

What are you proud of?

SPEAKER_02 49:25

Um that's a good question.

SPEAKER_05 49:29

I um That's a good question.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

I'm proud of the I'm proud of the way that I am trying to be a community person. Um I like that. Yeah. It's always perfect, obviously, but I think that I I have a real heart to kind of help people like find their wings or whatever. And so I think I'm proud of the way I can do that sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Wow. I like that. No, it's that mentor idea.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Concierging people around.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Concierge.

SPEAKER_00 50:14

I'm gonna help you.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

Or walk with you.

unknown 50:17

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

And Catalyst Church is a little like that.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

A lot like that, probably. By virtue of its leadership.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

Um just to walk with people.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Yeah, they give a lot of people their wings.

SPEAKER_00 50:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

You get your wings today.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

Get your wings. I can fly.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

And then there's this boot in the butt where you're flying out of the nest.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

Oh yeah. Right. No. Right. Yes. I know.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Look at look at you, sore.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

Yeah. I'm like in this midlife crisis or midlife reset phase of life where I'm like trying to figure out I'm trying to find my own wings again kind of thing. And it's like, oh yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

I like it. So I like it. Who who isn't, right? Yeah. Yeah. They reinvent the reinvention.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

And it's inter it's an interesting talk about that for a sec. It's an interesting process. By the way, you won the prize.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

I won?

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Yeah, of course you did.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

Yes. Okay. Oh, it's that? No, it's not. Well, you can keep no one.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

Would you like what you hear on chocolate bar?

SPEAKER_02 51:16

I do love you won the pointer. I do love Dick Taylor chocolate. I am not um dissing on that chocolate bit.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

Do you like do you eat Dick Taylor?

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Yeah. Oh yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

What's your favorite?

SPEAKER_02 51:26

Chocolate bar is the peanut butter bar.

SPEAKER_00 51:29

You know, I really like the peanut butter a lot.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

I love the peanut butter bar. I can go like lay down, I can lay down a whole bar of that. Really? Or a half a bar in one cent.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Calorically, it's not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

It's not so bad. It's still like kind of dark chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

And it and it's Yeah. I like I think I like the the the fig.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Yeah?

SPEAKER_00 51:46

Jonah likes that V one with the Valero Vanuatu. Vanuatu. Oh yeah, she likes that one.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 51:53

That was close to the postcard. She reads it every time.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Yes. Oh, that one's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

I was going to bring one and read it with you. But I won't probably already bring those.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Well, I probably actually I'm not sure I've read that actual postcard, but I know the guy who grew those beans.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

So I love the reinvention because you've already invented because you've been part of a team that's created a family.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Hi, Joni. Good job, honey. And part of a team that's created this legendary business. Part of a team that has a band, so you're probably helped along the way there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Like served. I carried an instrument or two.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

You slept a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

I can't say that I contributed too much to the band, honestly. But still, you were there. I took care of the kids every time they had practice.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

I'm telling you, it's all uh you drove the getaway car.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

Yeah. Yes. It's sunny. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

You would go to jail too. Yes. It's to get credit and blame. So I I think all those things I think it's really good. And I know there's a point where kind of you're not that far from empty nesting, right?

SPEAKER_02 52:53

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have a seventh grader, but yes, it's that's Dude.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

When you're my age, that's a five-year plan. That's a five-year plan next Christmas. Yeah. It goes that quick. Yeah, it's true. It's true. My dad said that. He goes, you know, Scott, call me Rob, my middle name. You know, Rob? Because life really goes quick, dude. And I and especially as you get older. That was the point. It's like a reestat. It just goes off the charts. And I go, Yeah, you're just, yeah, you're I know, Dad, you're old. You're just an old guy. And now I'm that ish. And I'm going, oh shoot.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

Yeah.

Reinvention After Stepping Away

SPEAKER_00 53:25

Dug on it. It's like flying by. And so um, you know, f FOMO and YOLO and all the olos and and the reinvent oh's. Let's reinvent this thing and I like um So what's your process of reinventing yourself? What do you how how does that look for you?

SPEAKER_02 53:44

Well, it it all started with I ha well, I had to it's been a lot of figuring out of like what is working and what's not working. Yeah. And so um it involved me like resigning from my position at the at my husband's business. Oh yeah. You know, yeah. So I I just often does right. Yeah, I just needed to back away from that. That was it like had gotten to a point where they were good and they I felt like they didn't necessarily need um need me or, you know, like what what I was I I wasn't bringing something so specific to the table that they couldn't replace. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's and let's be honest, HR was like I had to learn that for that business. It's not like I came with knowledge of HR. I just like humans in general, and they were like, this is great. You could take you could take all the humans and talk to them.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Which is the hardest part of the job.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Well, for me, not. You know, I like I like humans, turns out.

SPEAKER_00 54:41

So I was HR's brutal. HR is brutal, yeah. How do you read people?

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:45

I'm amazing. I'm groovy. Oh, did you know that I'm a criminal? No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Yeah. Well, it was just less that and just more that like I think that they had gotten to a point where like it it was fine. So so for me personally, it was it was a good move to like kind of back away from that and let Adam do his thing there and then re-figure out what my thing is. Yeah. Because that was kind of in my mind was always I was like filling in. I was just filling in to get them to like a certain way.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

So there's work involved in re the reinvention. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

So and it was like a big wilderness. Like I I pulled away from that and then it was like did a lot of pottery, did a lot of like walking with friends. I called it the wilderness. And then out of that phase, actually came. So I was probably there for a year and a half or so, just kind of wondering and doing different things, putting trying my hand at different things. I taught a class uh at through humble at through Ollie. It was kind of fun. So, you know, little things. No, uh a chocolate like chocolate 101. Perfect. Whatever. Yeah, Ollie's cool for retired people is so fun.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Shout out for Ollie. Ollie Ollie. The Oshlager Institute. Pretty cool. There's not very many of them.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

It's very cool. Yeah. It's very cool. They go to this.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

I aspire to go on field trips that are cool.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Field trips. I want to go. Yeah. Sign up. It's all people that want to be there. It was the most amazing classroom setting.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Yeah. So just little things. Yeah, I got curious. I was kind of did a lot. A lot of walking, a lot of wandering, a lot of like refiguring out, a lot of therapy. It was great. And then through that season came this offer to work back with Moonstone. And I think that if I hadn't have done all that and hadn't prepared in that sense, that I wouldn't have been ready to say yes to them. So that was a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

It's a lot of work though.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

Yeah, it's a lot of work.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

The work and it's disappointing work sometimes. You go, oh, what who So Joni's dad, who was legendary, Tom, the um athlete. Okay. Alcoholic, amazing Tom. Okay. In the moment. Great. You loved him. Um you'll get to meet him one day. Okay. Um, so he's um he would ask two questions. Who are you? Mm-hmm and what do you want?

SPEAKER_03 56:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 56:58

So uh the setup is there, and here comes the questions.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

See, you've done the work. See, should this be easy? It should be easy. The two artist questions are. Who are who are you?

SPEAKER_03 57:08

Who are you?

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Deanna.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Uh I am I am a person who Oh, this is a this is a hard question, actually. It's not easy. It's it's like because I could list all the things I do, but I don't that's not necessarily who we are, right? Yeah, it's not my identity. Um I'm a person who um I'm a team player. That's a part of who I am. I it's really important for me to be a part of a team who's doing good things.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

That's awesome. Um stand alone, that's beautiful and good.

SPEAKER_02 57:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

I like it.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

So if nothing else, I'm a team player.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

That's good. Yeah, that's part of who you are. Does that work? Is that true? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Okay. So what do you want?

SPEAKER_02 57:53

What do I want?

SPEAKER_00 57:54

What do you want to see happen around here?

SPEAKER_02 57:56

I want to feel like what I do and the the time I spend makes a difference to people, like makes people's worlds a little bit better, a little bit brighter.

SPEAKER_00 58:07

Love it. Yeah. Um we'll get to the legacy question here in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

And I do also want to be in the sun. I want you want more sun? I want sunshine on my skin.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

Yeah. Time for Willow Creek Adam. Get the cabin. Yes. Buy that cabin, bro.

SPEAKER_02 58:21

Let's just get that little hut in Costa Rica.

SPEAKER_00 58:23

Can can I share my journey really quick? Yes, please. So finding meaning for me has been really tough because I've worked for 45 years. Yeah. And nose to the grindstone. Faithful guy, team player, all the things, loyal and uh not perfect, but and just kind of, hey, is it pickleball? I don't know. I don't play now. Must not be. Is it guitar? No, I'm not doing that. Is it um oh that other thing? So I finally found something. And Nick's gonna laugh because I was bringing Nick a record. So I found I found Johnny Mathis. No, no, no, kidding. So I'm really into Johnny. No, I'm not. I um no idea where this is going. It's just a record.

SPEAKER_04 59:06

Just a prop. It's Johnny Mathis.

SPEAKER_00 59:09

He's quite a quite he's actually a beautiful singer. But this is not my my my bigger point. Crack it up here. My bigger point is that Matt, my son-in-law, and all the kids and Joni got me a really cool stereo for my birthday, January 2nd.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

And it started with Dark Side of the Moon.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 59:26

And the addiction is branched out.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

Is it a record player?

SPEAKER_00 59:29

Yeah, I collect vinyl now. I'm a vinyl guy.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

Yes. That's who you are.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

And I'm well, it's part of who I am. Okay, part of who you are. Sure. Music is has that ubiquitous language and it's fun, and Nick gets a record every time I walk in the studio.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Yeah, show that on.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

Johnny Cash's Christmas album.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Ooh, that is special.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

Yeah, that's like that. I know. Johnny Cash at Christmas with the Cash family. Uh-huh. June Cash? June Carter Cash. Anyway. So it's been fun.

SPEAKER_02 59:59

Just collecting and that's a part of who you are now as a vinyl collector.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

I'm curating a killer collection.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Have I heard all of it? No. Some of it's still in plastic wrap. That's how weird this addiction's been. Yes. I thought it was chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Or a pi pickleball.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:13

That's really great.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

And it ain't.

Vinyl Records Legacy And Closing

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Yeah. But I vinyl's really cool, isn't it? It's like a touchback to um it kind of feels it's old school, right? It is old school.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

I've upgraded the turn turntable already. Got a preamp. Yes. Oh, the luminaires never sounded so cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:29

And I'm hit, man. I got some and all the old grindy rock and roll stuff. I fog hat uh you know, Joni gets kind of mad. Um not mad, but just irritated. Turn that down. I'm going, this is great, man. Deep purple and Led Zeppelin. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

Tell her if you're if it's too loud, you're too old. Do you say those words? Ooh. Mm-hmm. Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

Joni, did you hear that?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

I did not say that, Joni. I didn't suggest that. She didn't mean it. One, uh, I got paid for a birth in a record player recently. Oh, right. A couple years ago. Yeah. That's cool. Turntable. Uh-huh. Turntable. Yeah. So now we are also vinyl. Do you have any vinyl? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

What do you like?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

I I I like all kinds of things. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

But um your prize today.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

I don't have it with me. Is vinyl. I'm going to get used to vinyl. Yes. Maybe Sunday play your card too.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:15

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

So real fast before we go, what's your legacy? What would you like your legacy to be in terms of your tombstone, your celebration of life? What would what would you hope that folks might say?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

Um I'd hope that people would say that even though like I didn't always get it right. My kids would say this for sure. If even though she didn't get it right all the time, she at least tried to make it right or like tried to tried to redeem the bumpy areas and um maybe tried to um leave it a little better or something. Or at least that I was open to change and vulnerability. I th I think I'm a transparent person. And so when I recognize there's a bump, I try.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:07

Try to work through it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Try.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

I hope.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

I hope that's what people feel. Yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

Yeah. Let's work through it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:14

Yeah. Yeah. That's bumpy sometimes, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:17

Yeah. As opposed to sweeping or getting mad or flaming.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

Well, there's all that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

You're the bumpy part.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:24

Yeah. Yeah. That is all there for sure. But I'm saying, like, I guess when I recognize it, then I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

That's a great answer. Well, thanks for coming.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

I also know it's a great show when it goes by quick.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

It's like that's a that's a quick hour right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:40

That's a quick hour.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

So hey, uh, thanks for joining us, everybody. Scott Hammond, 100% Humboldt Podcast. And um uh like us, love us, uh, write us, make notes, give positive reviews. We're on all the platforms, did you know? On TV, on Humb Humboldt Access TV. Seriously. We're on YouTube. Oh my gosh. There's a YouTube channel, 100% the the letters with the percentage. We're on uh he Dick's put together a killer website, 100% Humboldt, and also all the podcast platforms, of which there are dozens, including Apple and Spotify and a whole bunch of others. So um love us, like us, join us, and uh we'll be back next time. Appreciate you being here.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:21

Thanks, Scott.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Thanks for having me.