Patch Boyz Podcast
Friends Who Grew Up In Midland TX, Work In The Oil Industry Getting Together To Talk About Daily Topics
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Patch Boyz Podcast
Patch Boyz x Alfonso Franco | EP.110
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From basketball courts in Midland to pioneering healthcare work in South Carolina, Alfonso's journey reveals the powerful influence of his Mexican-American upbringing on his professional path. In this deeply personal conversation between cousins, we explore how growing up in West Texas during the 1990s-2000s shaped Alfonso's trajectory toward becoming a leader in infectious disease healthcare.
Alfonso shares vivid memories of cross-border life—regular family trips to Mexico on Greyhound buses, carrying suitcases full of goods to sell or share with family. His bilingual education at Ben Milam elementary and his basketball career at Midland High eventually led to a scholarship at Graceland University in Iowa, opening doors he never anticipated.
The heart of this conversation examines Alfonso's evolution from Spanish medical interpreter to infectious disease specialist working with HIV/AIDS patients. His bicultural background became his superpower in healthcare, allowing him to connect with Latino patients facing stigma and fear. "I loved delivering hope," he explains, describing the satisfaction of telling newly diagnosed patients they could live full lives with proper treatment.
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Speaker 3307, 1960.
Speaker 2I think we're good, Rick. So how many?
Speaker 1episodes. Is that I know the 100th?
Speaker 2episode was recently. Oh, we're at what I think. 108 was the last one 108,.
Speaker 1Yeah, I forget too, bro, Like I got to go back. Oh yeah, 107. There's so many.
Speaker 3Well, I picked it up because he put it up on Facebook and I was working at the hospital that weekend and I was like I'm done with all of the Joe Rogans. I was like what else is out there? And I was like the Patch Boys and there I think it was like only like two episodes yeah and I was like I started listening and then Chewing, and then Chewing.
Speaker 3Chewing has like the family laugh yeah and I was like, oh, I missed that. Yeah, I was like him, my brother and some other cousins, like they have an distinct laugh. Yeah, um, it's very, it's very interesting. And I was like, oh, I miss west texas yeah, I left west texas, when in 2004 I'm sorry, in 2000, when I graduated high school, went to iowa and then came back to texas yeah, we're good, we're good, I'll just.
Speaker 1I'll just let me, let me get a quick fucking introduction, man.
Speaker 2So, what's up everybody back again for the patch boys podcast, and uh, today I have a very special guest. Especially close to me is my primo alfonso, my cousin for those of y'all that don't uh use spanglish at all. Uh, so, uh, yeah, he's coming in from uh south carolina.
Speaker 2South carolina I don't know how the fuck they say it down there, but they say it a specific way south carolina there you go, so he he listens to us all the time down there and so we wanted to have a man have a quick conversation. Just you know, let y'all. He's got an interesting past, a midland pass and, of course, everything that he's doing presently. So, yeah, we're gonna get right into it. So you were just letting us know about when you left midland and been over there.
Speaker 3So yeah, I left midland right after I graduated in 2000. So I'm a midland high graduate class of 2000. I left, uh, I got a basketball scholarship to go play NAIA basketball at Graceland University in Iowa.
Speaker 2We all remember Graceland. Funny fact about Graceland is every fucking Franco in the family had a fucking Graceland T-shirt.
Speaker 1A GU hoop shirt. A GU hoop shirt.
Speaker 2Every single fucking person I'm talking about. If we were to scour our phones or cameras or albums whatever the fuck it was at the time I guarantee you we would find people wearing that shirt. Those shirts probably still exist in people's fucking drawers and shit for sure, yeah, it was a, we were trying to.
Speaker 3So when you play at an AIA school and our AIA school is like it's between division one and division two and ncaa, and in the christmas, right before christmas, they will always take us to a tournament outside of the country.
Speaker 3So it was cancun twice, it was hawaii once and then vancouver one, and so the gu hoop shirts were to make money for those trips and like, uh, yeah, and I was like it was, I, I knew, I, I knew how the gyms were going to be in mexico, because I played in mexico a lot and when I go, like my summers, uh, from here in midland, was we got out, say may 31st, you know, by june 1st, we were mexico until august, right, and I there's only one gym in the whole town and it's like you know, it's a european gym and where they had the wide open like uh lane, the free throw lane. So I knew already going out there, and so my buddies, I was like, yeah, it's going to be different, there might not be no air conditioning in some of those gyms but we did we did.
Speaker 3We had great times. We enjoyed getting a free trip over there to Mexico. I could use my Spanish, so it was good times.
Speaker 2We love free fucking trips man yeah man, when we it's funny because I tell ricky and everybody about how we were like, yeah, we're first generation american, except for you, you're born in mexico, right? No, no, okay, I'm born. Who was that least lees?
Speaker 3was born in mexico. Yeah, so I'm kind of like you, yeah, yeah, I was born here, and then Right back first, however much yeah. So I was born in Chicago and then at four weeks my mom said screw your dad, I'm moving to Mexico pretty much. And then, at five years old, we moved back.
Speaker 2Same story.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Except.
Speaker 1Midland.
Speaker 2Midland was where I was always. Yeah, I was born here and then we went back to mexico around the same time, but I came back. I was younger than that. I came back around four years old. Yeah, four, three, whatever, it was, um, anyway, but I was in. I was in pre-kinder bilingual because I was a spanish speaker. We were all were Spanish speakers right off the right off the jump.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2And uh, I don't think people like I know some people out there understand, like, when you're a first generation American, like you're really deep into Mexican culture, like deep, it's not like like the medicine we take, the fucking food we eat, the fucking music we listen to, like when I got Americanized was because of Brenda. Obviously Brenda got Americanized first because she came and started going to school and then she started showing me fucking Tupac and Biggie and all this bullshit, right. But before that I didn't have that and you guys saw some of it right when we were friends growing up, oh yeah yeah, have that.
Speaker 2You guys saw some of it right. Yeah, we were friends. Oh, yeah, yeah, because I was the first motherfucker rolling up in colorful fuck, colorful fucking.
Speaker 3Oh, button ups with the fucking roach killers remember like the popular silk uh shirts, all colorful yeah, with the fucking v.
Speaker 2It's funny because I just got yesterday I was telling you that I was at that rodeo and I got a hat made by this, this company that's called allen's l, but they don't ever come over here. Well, they happened to come to fucking Big Spring and I went to the rodeo. We ended up staying for the rest of the fucking night. But they're doing it and the guy that's doing it it's gone completely fucking back again. So he's wearing a pearl snap orange, fucking pearl snap. So he's wearing a pearl snap orange fucking pearl snap.
Speaker 2Yeah, this bitch is open all the way down almost to his fucking belly button. Chest hair with a gold chain and everything Like it reminded me so much of my dad and your dad. Your dad had more of a contemporary look. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Yeah, like Tearturo's the one that was like our uncle. Like if you go to the horse races off of 385, you would see that everybody was wearing chains and the most beautiful like different colored ostrich boots and it was a. It was a really cool time to to to grow up, yeah, cause here, like, literally, we would have three days off from school, mom, be waiting outside the truck, the car and the truck, and be like, all right, we're going to mexico, load it up like we were and like our, our moms were, were g's because they they would like go to mexico on the great, like the greyhound. So so you know the right greyhound station was right here 5 30 pm.
Speaker 3There was a bus to presidio. We get there at around midnight. They cross you over on the border on these vans and then the first bus, la Chihuahuense, was at 6 in the morning. So my mom had a 6-year-old and like a 1-year-old waiting at that bus station to go to Chihuahua. We stop in Chihuahua and then the rapidos 12 demo, to call them where my mom's from, and we get there like an eight, nine in the morning. Yeah, and with like tons and tons of clothes and stuff to either sell or give to people. Yeah, we never went empty handed, never.
Growing Up in Midland, Basketball, and Iowa
Speaker 2It was just jam packed, even on the bus, like all our clothes we'd get on the bus and, of course, so everybody knows the reason why we're taking greyhounds and the whole shit is because our dads were here working or whatever the fuck they were doing. So our moms were like, fuck this, we're rolling. And like if we had most of us had barely a vehicle at the time barely a vehicle, and I'm talking about like, like you know, like they were beat to shit, and so that vehicle stayed behind, we would fucking take off on the bus and it would be one suitcase, one large, and I mean fucking. You want to know where mexicans get their strength. These fucking suitcases, bro, no wheels, no nothing.
Speaker 2And you grow up when you grow up as the boy, like the boys are always the ones fucking lugging the shit around, which is normal, right, it's normal, we like it that way. But they would be like leather fucking suitcases, like big as shit. One would be for the family, clothes and the rest of the shit would be jam-packed with the shit that we were going to either sell or give away or whatever. Because we had family over there. It was like, hey, bring me this, bring me nike, bring me adidas, the shit that they that. Over there they fucking counterfeit like crazy as fuck at that time.
Speaker 3Right now, everything's fucking yeah our our moms were hustlers like they didn't go there just to visit, they were gonna make some money. Uh, on the way back, like I remember, there was a shoe store that was closing down at the mall and my mom bought like everything and we went with the whole trailer full of those shoes.
Speaker 3It was like carters or something weird shoes and it's sold so many yeah, like mom, and so it was really cool, like just growing up on both sides of the border. Uh, my grandfather had a business so every like I told my sister I was like you know, we really didn't have a traditional Christmas because his business during that time was very busy up to the 24th and we worked with him up to the 24th. At 10, 11 years old I was driving the trucks dropping off stuff at the butcher shops, so my grandfather sold hominy for menudo en pozole. So like on the 24th, 24th, like the carnecita is like hey, necesitamos 50 kilos, or with it, and it's like all right, we're on the way. You know, and it was my mom, my cousins from over there, my grandfather we're on full, like non-stop and like by the end of the day we're worn out, like we had some tamales or whatever. But it was never like a, like what we do now for our kids, like yeah, it's like a week worth of fucking events yeah, no, we, we, we.
Speaker 3It started right after thanksgiving and then it was non-stop and that's peak fucking menudo.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah peak season.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, so it's still. It's still going strong in chihuahua, uh, yeah, but like I was, like I need to take my kids and get them to do that for a couple of uh of days yeah, man, it's so funny, it's crazy, so different.
Speaker 2And you remember, remember telling you like they would trip out here because I was driving at nine, like we were driving early, we were tall we were.
Speaker 2We were tall, so they would trip out here and and fabian, like fabian knows the best, because I would go and pick up Fabian and it'd be like we're young kids kids now that are like, hey, get your bike and let's go and I was pulling up. You remember that little white truck that my dad bought? Yeah, it was like a fucking Mazda, whatever the fuck it was that little truck. He essentially bought it for me. I went to football practice in junior high, mind you, he essentially bought it for me. I went to football practice in junior high. Mind you, football practice in that fucking truck. My parents were working so they didn't take me. That truck would be at home. I'd walk home, get in the fucking truck, get changed, whatever, and go to football practice my brother used to have races against go-karts.
Speaker 3Remember that old mobile car we had. He would raise kids in go-karts because we used to live off of uh, we used to live on the east side, off of english and we were going yeah, so we all lived in that fucking house. Oh, we did. Yes, we all lived at the house. It's very different now. Absolutely, yeah, like well, that's where, like the whole, like basketball started. Was there, like because right behind the house was spart spark yeah, which I don't think exists anymore.
Speaker 2I don't think it's that park anymore, but there's a park that exists there, I just don't know the name of yeah, it's right next to viola coleman.
Speaker 3So viola coleman was built while we were still living in that area and like the games the basketball games they had, where they're amazing two, three in the morning, because they had lights, they were still playing and it was all black folks.
Speaker 2So it was.
Speaker 1It was mostly black dudes, yeah it was like that uh and one phase, huh, that's how you get yes yeah that's how you get fucking.
Speaker 2Good, you know, I'm saying like they were like those.
Speaker 3Those guys are like. I didn't play with them because I was younger, but I would just watch and like I would hear, my mom was like alfonso because because back then it was an, as there was like gaps of land between their houses yeah, that that house sat almost on a hilltop, yeah, like as close as you can get in Midland to a fucking hilltop.
Speaker 2It was a house. It had a long fucking driveway up to where the house was and then a long yard in the front and the back had no fence, no nothing, it was just bare. So there's a bunch of land.
Speaker 3It was bare on both sides. Yeah, we didn't have neighbors on both sides. Yeah, we didn't have neighbors and we all lived there. Like your dad started it uh-huh, and then you guys left, and then my dad, when he moved from chicago, was there, and then we left, and then one of our cousins- older cousins lived there, junior when he got married.
Speaker 2Yeah, so we would have. We had fucking parties there like cookouts and shit. That's where really, that's where it started here. That's where mainly we had those cookouts and shit. That's where really. That's where it started here. That's where mainly we had those cookouts and shit and I remember, I remember them to this day like first comedian street, first comedian football on the street yeah, man.
Speaker 3Um, yeah the the. Yeah, it was interesting working living on the east side.
Speaker 2Yeah then you see it now. It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3Yeah, I've been gone, I was like my god, like there's massive houses over here, it's insane and um I was. I was like the basketball court's not here anymore, and then there's a playground now well, and then they, they open up that ymca next to lee freshman. Oh, and I did. I played a lot there too. Um, but you know, like growing up mexican and money always being tight, you know people were like, oh, how come you don't play that ymca league? It's only 50 bucks. I was like, no, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 250, 50 bucks is a lot 50 bucks made you or broke you back then. Like it's different. It's definitely different. We, thank god, our parents worked as hard as they worked and busted ass and we've been able to do better and hopefully our kids do better. That's the whole goal, right? But, like we know, my dad's been in the fucking oil industry his entire fucking life, from the beginning. And it's fucking funny, because my dad was in the oil industry, I like I wasn't like all the time, like yeah for sure I'm going to be an oil man or anything like that, but when it got to that point, that's, I followed it and that's what I've been doing since. My tío silvino, which is alfonso's dad, has been in the medical industry his entire life. Like he retired from middle memorial, like everybody knows him, like when I got surgery it's fucking funny, man, because my tío silvino he's a trip at the hospital.
Speaker 1He's a trip anywhere else.
Speaker 2But at the fucking hospital he's an extra trip. I remember when I broke my leg and we went and I was going to have my surgery Matheus Silvino, he's plugged in he called me. He didn't know. I didn't like announce to everybody that I was having surgery or anything like that, he didn't know. And he called me like hey, are you having surgery or what? Like yeah, my fucking ankle. Like okay, I'll see you here in the morning he don't say shit or nothing.
Speaker 2He's like I'll see you here in the morning. And I get there and it's fucking funny because our dads are as as different as they want to seem. They're the same. So I get in there and he's like man, I don't know who the fuck this doctor is man and he like freaking me out, right, this is the first time I go under the knife. He's like man, I don't know.
Speaker 2This fucking doctor looks young mijo like I don't know who he is I don't know, I don't know, and then, and then the anesthesiologist comes out and he's like it's like it's fucking funny. You know how you do it at work and like this, you know a guy like does certain shit or whatever. It was that way, but thankfully both guys they were shining and finally after he was like hey, man, I heard about that, your surgeon. He's like, he's badass.
Speaker 1I was like why don't you fucking tell me that?
Speaker 2seconds before I went under the knife. But it was funny because he's like he gets access everywhere, like it's fucking crazy, Like everybody loves him and he gets access everywhere. I was in the back already with Erica and my mom and he just rolls in. I thought they don't allow that many people. I don't fucking worry about it.
Speaker 3We always make the joke that when there's a birth, he's the first one there.
Speaker 1Like he's the first one there, he's the first one there.
Speaker 3So when my grandmother passed away a few years ago, we got together at my sister's house and it was my cousins and my sister and we're talking about like, yeah, what are we going to do when dad retires? He's the first one there, he's the last one there, he's the one keeping you updates. Like during COVID, we had a couple of cousins that unfortunately, one of them passed away and then we had two other ones and like he was the one updating this because he was working still and you couldn't go. He couldn't go anywhere, but he had access to everything. I was like, how did you?
Speaker 3get into the ICU, like, yeah, like you were talking to them and I was like, don't worry about it it's fucking crazy and we grew up with that.
Speaker 2That we grew up actually more nervous than anything like that's how I remember like we grew up with more of a fucking toe the line type attitude than our, than our dads did right, and because, I think, because they were so nonchalant about shit, we were much more worried about this and worried about that detail and worry about that shit because our parents, like our dads, are like, yeah, fuck it we and worry about that shit Cause our parents are, like our dads are like, yeah, fuck it, we'll worry about it later.
Speaker 3They're very laid back Like. So when I moved from Mexico, one of the biggest things was like tornadoes.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 3And like, as soon as that little tornado, like uh, uh, what is it? The channel seven or whatever that thing come freaking the hell out and my dad being like let's go outside and look at it. No, he'd be like, ah, if I'm going to die tonight, I'm going to go take a shower. I was like I was terrified. I was seven, eight and I was like there's a tornado warning and like nowhere in Midland there's a. There's no any um basements, I'd be fine. And I was just so terrified of tornadoes all the time.
Speaker 1You know my stepdad's a lot different man. He busted in the door and we're playing Blitz, fucking two motorcycle helmets Get her to bed. And I was like what's going on? It's getting crazy and he was freaking out Get the mattresses and shit.
Speaker 2Yeah, honestly, sometimes I wish that was a response, because I would tell my dad like come on, we gotta get away from the fucking windows, and like my dad would be sitting on the fucking recliner without a fucking worry in the world and I got pipe in the derrickson.
Speaker 1I ain't got shit.
Speaker 2It's crazy, man, because you know my dad had been in that shit forever and working out there and god knows whatever it bullshit, you know. And he was never, he was never worried about it and Matheus Vino's just been, he's just been that carefree uncle, like always always you got a fucking problem and you tell him about it, he's like nah, just don't fucking worry about it, it'll be fine. He'll be like nah it'll be fine he's always been that.
Speaker 3I'll call all terrified. I'm like so I have a child with Down syndrome and we got the diagnosis at 20 weeks and we were like when you get hit with that, you're like god damn, this sucks.
Speaker 2Look into the future, right, yeah, yeah, and my dad's like no te preocupes, salen muy bonitos, they're really cute.
Speaker 3He was like it was very cute and fortunately everything has turned. We had a rough, you know, first year of life but he was like very like we're all dreading. We're like the worst thing you can do when you get something like that is Google things.
Speaker 1Oh hell yeah, anything.
Speaker 3Yeah, and you're like. You're like, oh, heart issues and all this, and my dad's like, oh, it'll be fine, don't worry. Uh, sorry that demeanor like because my mom's the total opposite, my mom's like very worrisome person for any little thing, so they kind of level each other out. So when I need something heavy, I like I call my dad.
Speaker 2I was like hey, you know this is going on and he's like oh, not the group, it'd be cool, we'll take care of it. Yeah, yeah, he's. He's always been like that man.
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, so my dad's also been like the uncle that goes to all the nephews' sport events, everything. I'm like I'll call him like, even now, like our cousins' kids. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in Crane watching a softball game Softball game for who? And they're like, oh, alfredo, one of our cousins' kid. I was like, oh, and then he'd be going to crane mccamey, all over the greenwood. I was like, what are you doing? Oh, I'm gonna track meet in mccamey. Attract me, yeah, man. And then with me when I played basketball. I started playing basketball, um, like, uh, regular, like in school, in the seventh grade. So we moved from the east side to the west side. And, yeah, when I was in the seventh grade. So I started off at abel abel, um, that was the second year of abel.
Speaker 2Abel was a beautiful school and I was like this is an amazing school yeah, it's taking a fucking hard turn. Is it bad fuck? Yeah, it seems like all of them are are bad like they and they all have their problems. Like fucking abel, we have fucking teachers doing some crazy shit selling vapes selling vapes.
Speaker 1It's crazy and a fucking alamo like the fucking the fucking teachers.
Speaker 2Square up with the students and shit. Everybody's fighting. Like it's crazy goddard. They have fucking metal detectors like it's it's crazy. All across the board like every.
Speaker 3Every place has its fucking issue well, like at uh, so abo was a beautiful school and then they have implemented like the block scheduling so that was very new. Yeah, so you didn't go to your schools, your classes every day, so that was very interesting, right. And then my parents bought a house off of thomason and thomason split. This side is middle and high side.
Speaker 3This side is lead just by, like the street right yeah and abel is so much closer than goddard and I was, like so confused. You're right. And then you know, when you're growing up broke, you only have one car. It's kind of difficult to go pick you up, even at abel. So my mom, like I did what the? I did the first semester at abel and then the second semester I moved over to goddard and I knew a lot of those kids from goddard because you know, you know, back then they had, like they bust you everywhere.
Speaker 3So you live in the east side. For fourth grade you came to henderson, which is behind, uh, my parents home currently, right, yeah. Then fifth grade, you went all the way to emerson, where you used to live at the apartments over there, yeah, emerson. And then back in sixth grade you go to peas, all right. So you, you, you learn, you meet all those kids and then so back at goddard, I met a lot of them, yeah, uh, back then, uh, but going back to like when I first got here, um, I ended up at ben milam, all right where my daughter is now yeah.
Speaker 3So I tell a lot of people that midland did bilingual education really well. Back then they you came in as a kindergarten and you don't know any english. So I don't know how education is today, especially bilingual wise here. But back then they didn't teach you english until they taught you how to read and write spanish properly. So kindergarten for me was kindergarten. First grade, second grade they started implementing a little bit of english into the curriculum, and then third grade it was a lot more English, and then fourth grade went into Henderson was 100% English. Yeah, and so most of your teachers, kindergarten through third grade, were bilingual and then in the fourth grade it was an all English class. Yeah, but I think they did a great job in in doing that and let and letting you you know, because I I could already read and write and speak Spanish, but they perfected it back then. I don't know how it works today.
Speaker 2It's like that. So right now in pre-K, camila does 90% Spanish, so it's 90% Spanish. Everything reading, writing, math, everything that they're doing is in Spanish. And then in kindergarten it will, whatever the percentage is. I don't know the breakdown yet. It'll go a little bit further into English until it's 50-50. But Ben Milam will always be integrated in Spanish and English both.
Speaker 1I didn't even know that school was around until you told me about it. I never even heard of it. I went to bottom.
Speaker 2I love that school because it's so Latino-based. And it's funny because Shaman and Aria were the ones who introduced that school to us. And it's funny because they're black and their two daughters young daughters fluent Spanish. It's crazy.
Speaker 3It's in South Carolina. We have that language immersion classes, uh, schools. So my daughter went from k4 through fifth grade half the day in spanish, half the day in english. Um, because it's very important for us even though she's half white, half mexican for her to speak spanish. And she speaks it very well. She writes it, she reads it. But she gets intimidated with me and she won't speak it with me, she will not like. But her she now she's in middle school and her teacher's, like Chloe's, spanish is flawless. She doesn't have an accent and I was like I know I catch her every once in a while, especially with my mom here right like and um, but it to us it was very important to the input.
Speaker 3My wife she's you know she doesn't speak spanish, but it was very important for her to know the language. So so ben mylon was awesome, like the whole misd was pretty.
Speaker 2It was great I think we did have a good, a good goal. Go about it, because the same thing for brend, brenda and me we went through bilingual and it was cool. I mean I think the biggest problem was transportation. That's what it was Like. Besides that, I mean we took buses and, like for us we would get when we were on the south side, when we were going to school at South Elementary, we would get picked up. Usually we would go to grandma's house. We either walked or got picked up, depending on who had, you know, a vehicle at the time and could take us, or whatever. Or we walked to grandma's house and we'd stay at grandma's house till my mom got off of work pick this up and we'd go home and that it was. It was normal back then. It was normal to walk home. It was normal to carpool like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2I carpooled my entire fucking young life like in, like crazy, like we. When we were in on the west side. We first moved to cunningham across the street we had a native american family. They're the. They were and, of course, new to me, like I didn't know anybody who was native or anything like that, but I'd go to their house. Their house was completely dressed up with I mean the headdresses and the whole shit, like it was legitimate, and I don't for the life of me I can't remember their names, but I carpooled with them. My mom simply walked over there said hey, your daughter looks a certain age. My son is this age Are. My son is this age.
Speaker 3Are you going to school? Yeah, I'll give you this much for gas and boom, I had a ride to school. Yeah, I, I walked for the every time, you know, the whole time they were leaving. Living on the east side, I walked because when I was at ben milam, you I picked, I got the bus at peas and it took me to ben milam and then back, and then I would walk and remember the ditch. I remember the ditch used to be the pool and then like so when I first started here you know, the east side is mostly black african-american folks and our neighbors were, were black, and I remember like people kept talking about this football and I had just moved from here. Mexico and 86, I think, was a world cup in mexico.
Speaker 2Yeah, I believe so I was like in the soccer yeah, I was big into the hugo sanchez thing back in 86 and so I had my soccer ball and I remember he's he's still a good, a good friend.
Speaker 3uh, randy norris was a kid that was my age next door, and he would come and ask for me to play and I didn't understand anything, all right, so my dad would interpret, because my dad's like the only fortunate one out of all of us that was bilingual.
Speaker 2I know it's fucking crazy man. He's always been good in English, yeah.
Speaker 3So my dad said yeah, yeah, and I went and right between our houses we had an open field, all right, and we're playing football with this egg-shaped thing, yeah, and he gives me the ball and I just get rammed.
Speaker 1Boom and I was like, guess, estel, I'm not used to this.
Speaker 3I was like this is insane. Yeah, I was like and he's like.
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Speaker 3Yeah, I think he was like pointing me the ball again and I just got wrecked again and I was like this is not football.
Speaker 3I was like these people are insane. And then then I was like I didn't like it, I didn't like getting hit, and then he also had a basketball goal and we would play for like days and days. But I was like, and then, little by little, you start picking up the language and then, yeah, it was good times, the east side there, and that's what I tell people like people always tell me why the raiders and why this shit, like they got a reason chicago right.
Speaker 2Because our, our family, our whole family was in chicago. They were in chicago for years and they have a reason, you know, to love chicago. But it was like why the fucking raiders man? And like I like, because you don't understand like I only knew soccer. Soccer was everything for me. Yeah, it was everything for me. But I'm a I'm a fucking big kid and at the time I was already a big kid, fucking playing only goalie and shit. When I went to mexico, like but.
Speaker 3But it's funny, like soccer was big because we were in mexico, but not by our parents. Our dads hate talker they hate.
Speaker 2They were americanized already.
Speaker 3It's crazy yeah like my dad's baseball, basketball, football, like boxing, boxing, boxing, boxing and boxing is so big in our family.
Speaker 2Like the, the, it was an event like keep in mind, these are broke ass mexicans like we're broke, but you best fucking believe. We're getting together and they're putting their fucking money together and we're ordering pay-per-view, bro, like we were getting that fucking fight, and then we get lucky and get those boxes in there what I think.
Speaker 3I think we were the ones that had, like I was thinking about it, I think it was, uh, the ones that that were like a, um, a piece of furniture oh, you remember and I remember speakers yeah, my dad. He brought it home from uh montgomery ward, remember, in odessa yeah, that's montgomery ward and he brought it and he had a remote and we're like this is insane, because I came from mexico.
Speaker 3Was yep yeah, like a thing, and I was like this thing has a remote and it's like 22 inches or something and it's colored, and then they got cable on it. I was like, oh, this is insane. And like, even though we had cable, it never left univision. Oh never.
Speaker 2Well, because at time that was the channel for them. That was the channel relaying the fucking news from Mexico and stuff like that. So they watched that shit all the fucking time. Man, the novelas, all those fucking.
Speaker 3Marimar and fucking Non-stop Monday through Friday 6 to 10.
Speaker 2Yeah, man, and that shit. I remember that TV because that TV ended up in my madrina's house, in my padrino's house, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that's the same fucking TV and they never got rid of it. They used it as a fucking shelf or whatever the fuck it was. They never got rid of it, dude, it was amazing. It's a fucking antique. If we had that motherfucker, god knows how much it'd be worth.
Speaker 3Dude, fucking antique but it had a, it had a remote, it was cool it was amazing for us yeah, and then it was like I was like, yeah, so like boxing was insane and my dad has, like my dad has the sports mentality of like he can tell you stuff that he wasn't even alive for I'm like, yeah, you weren't alive back in 19, whatever. And I was like, yeah, but I remember, and then he'd just tell you about random, like fighters that have died and stats.
Speaker 3It's crazy, like, and like I love sports, like I think college football is my thing right now, yeah, yeah. But my dad like just still follows everything Because, like he was asking me about the NBA and I was, like, dad, I don't watch it. You know, like, because the NBA was a thing my dad and I watched, like I remember, was it? Uh 95, we're big bulls fan. Well, big chicago, everything chicago, everything. Bulls, bears, cubs and white socks, um, but you know the that was the heyday of the bulls and, like my, it was crazy. Like, anytime we watched a sport event, my dad, we were like on our pins and needles just watching everything because he was so into it, especially like the Chicago teams. But then I remember also, when we had, like the only team we got here was mostly the Braves. This is like you know, this is TBS.
Speaker 2And it was like 7.05 pm.
Speaker 3you know this is tbs and it was like 7 0 5 pm and we watch and like we're doing the tomahawk in my house because my dad would get into it, and I was like I remember one time, kris and I was born right and it was the world series that the, that the atlanta braves yeah, were, um, oh, yeah it was the one with the atlanta braves actually won it. We're tomahawking and we get a call. That our first I guess their godniece. Yeah, it was their first niece of my cousin that actually moved into the house that we all lived.
Speaker 2Yeah, she was one of the first she was born.
Speaker 3Well, we're tomahawking and we get a call.
Speaker 1We're like da, da, da da.
Speaker 3And we're not Braves fans. We and we're not brave, since We've always been Cubs fans. We were raised Like that's the thing my dad has done. Very well. I told my brother I was like man, you mess it up with your kids. Your kids are Cowboy fans.
Speaker 2Raiders fans. You know, it's what it is.
Speaker 3It's like both my kids love the Bears. You know my sister also messed up. He loves the Cowboys, oh yeah, and here in Midland it's tough, especially when the Cowboys were so good. And then people were like, well, go back to Chicago. And I was like, well, I'm technically from here. I was like I was born in Chicago, but we love the Bears. Go back to Chicago.
Speaker 2That's fucking hilarious. That's people's answer everywhere in the United States. I bet you get that shit all the time Nah people talk shit all the time about the Raiders and like I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1I used to give them so much shit about it. I used to be like before they got that new stadium I'd be like man, we got a better stadium than y'all got over there now, but yeah it's crazy and we inherited that shit.
Speaker 2It's in our blood. It's in our blood, like, even my dad is probably the least of everybody. He loved boxing, that was his thing, but my dad's probably the least. Uh, you know sport, you know centric guy out of all of them. But I fucking, since, since I could watch tv, since I could play sports, I love sports.
Speaker 2And the Raiders continuing on what I was saying before, the Raiders was the first fucking game that I saw. It was a Super Bowl, because my neighbor invited me to a Super Bowl party Never been to one ever. They had a little bit of money, like, even though we moved to that side of town or whatever from the apartment complex, we were fucking fighting. My dad was fighting to keep us above fucking water. You know what I mean. And they had some money and they would throw parties and shit. And hey, we're having a Super Bowl party tomorrow. What the fuck? Super Bowl? Whatever, I'd go over, go over. Yeah, these are the Raiders, these are the Buccaneers. They're big time Tampa Bay fans, so it was a big game for them. His dad was a big Tampa fan, so they're putting it on. The raiders get fucking slaughtered. But one thing that I learned that day was that I love being an adversary.
Speaker 2I love it so the fact that the fact that I could be there and talk shit, even on the one or two good plays that the fucking raiders had it made me feel good. I felt good and I've fucking taken that ever since, like when, when, when we get together, you would think it's funny. Like you go, you go to my house and let's say we get together for the bears and the.
Speaker 3Raiders you, you got into it.
Speaker 2My brother about a bear game that's going to happen, bears, and they're like yeah, they had to shut us down at a family event a month ago, but we do this every time and I tell everybody because everybody's like man, the way your family talks to each other and shit like that. But I'll tell you what my family isn't the family that, hey, we're going to stop talking or we're going to not talk to so-and-so. No man, we might talk shit, get pissed off, have problems all the time, whatever.
Speaker 3But when it's time where they're talking to each other, like it shit and and yeah, we might talk shit to each other- I'm like the most even keel middle of the road person.
Speaker 3But like I, I get along with everybody, right. So but when you need something they're all there for you. Like when my son had all the health issues that we actually ended up in boston and so we just had tons of support and money just pouring because, you know, even though like insurance and stuff takes care, like we were a month in boston so for all those bills, like I was like everything. He was like oh, he's thinking in those wallets. I was like I'll be here two grand. I was like what the hell?
Speaker 3I was like man.
Speaker 1They're amazing that's awesome, that's a blessing man, you know, that helps out, for sure.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's crazy how we grow up Everybody. We grew up very much everybody kind of in their own family keeping to themselves. But the way that we get together, man and my Tia Arturo was a big part of that. My Tia Arturo was the main center of the family and mainly because if he said jump, the dads would jump my dad, his dad, dad. If he said, hey, you're fucking coming over, or hey, do this, or hey, whatever, he was kind of that. So he was the patriarch there of of their family, because my, my grandfather died very early.
Speaker 3Yeah, he died, he was 35. Yeah, I just had the conversation. So our grandfather actually was a sheriff and she and, uh, different parts of chihuahua. Yeah, on nahuac, which is really close to where my mom's from Ojinaga.
Speaker 2Back when Presidio and Ojinaga was just a fucking line in the dirt. It was the same shit.
Speaker 3So he actually got shot in, like when my dad was telling me he was ambushed by some people. These people were cattle rustlers and he had been trying to get them and heard that he's been trying to get them and they actually ambushed them. They called him to come out and my dad's story was like they come out, they shot him and the guy that was with my grandfather my grandfather was actually able to shoot two killed, two of them killed two and the third one was still alive and he told the other, uh, sergeant, a sergeant like, uh, the other police guy that was with him, he's like go end them.
Speaker 3And I was like, oh, insane, that's his grandpa out there, baby, yeah and my dad is like yeah, I was six. And he's like and just, the world had different yeah. Yeah, because at that time they, you know, my dad ended up in Texas with one of my grandfather's uncles, so that's why my dad has been bilingual for so long. Your dad ended up in Mexico, right In.
Speaker 2Mexico.
Speaker 3With another aunt. Uh-huh, because it was difficult times for my grandmother to have so many kids that they had yeah, and so yes.
Speaker 2You were all over the place, yeah, and and so, yeah, you were, yeah, all over the place, yeah. And Mati Arturo was the oldest. He was in his teens already, I believe.
Speaker 3Yeah, and Mati Mati.
Speaker 2Griselda and Maria La Luz.
Speaker 3Mati Griselda was the youngest. Yeah, your dad and Mati Griselda were the youngest.
Speaker 2So yeah.
Speaker 3So my dad, when he moved to Chicago, there was a story he told me about these three guys that he picked up, uh, because he worked for the. My dad worked for the coca-cola company, you remember when they had the big like refillable canisters for that. So that was his job, right. But he would. He would go uh on to make ten dollars extra out of each guy. He would give them a ride to their job. And it was on the way right. And all of a sudden they're like no, you're charging us too much. And some other guy my dad told him. I was like the reason I charge you is because I'm reliable. These other dude might get drunk, might not come, and he's like you're trying to save $2. The other guy was going charge him eight bucks. Two weeks later they came back because that happened. So my dad, but but my dad, like they just have crazy stories in chicago, like well, they ran like a gang.
Speaker 2It was so many of them so they ran like a gang, all of them always armed. They come, they come from a place that was like the wild west at the time. Like, literally, my dad would tell me stories about where he lived as a kid and growing up and the families would literally have feuds over a fucking cow and kill whole families, would kill whole families over a fucking cow.
Speaker 2That's like crazy shit, he would tell me and like that's how it was over there. It still is, to a certain extent, like certain families have more power in these little towns in the fucking mountains and stuff like that. Right. But they came down here, all of them got fucking guns, all of them Like it was a normal deal. And of course, chicago everybody knows Chicago's fucking infamous. You know Al Capone, the whole shit. You know what I mean and that's how they ran. Yeah, they ran like that all the time.
Speaker 3My dad always tells a story of when my mom is pregnant with me and my dad always had sports cars and they always live on the south side of chicago. Um, california and 18 that's the mexican part of chicago. I think it still is, because most of my family I still have a lot of family in chicago on my mom's side. That's where my mom and dad met and, um, my mom said that somebody tried to stick them up and my dad pulled the gun and there was a. There was a guy sitting on the stoop and my dad looked pretty mexican and the guy said shoot him.
Speaker 2Shoot that motherfucker amigo the guy just ran yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like.
Speaker 3I was like, oh, that, yeah, yeah, my, my dad even see in pictures. My dad is like the most chill, nicest guy ever. You can see the pictures like with the, with those things with for the guns over here yeah, the holsters, and I was like and I wasn't like I was in love with my dad.
Speaker 3Like you know, I moved when I was four weeks, but my dad would come constantly. He would drive 24 hours from chicago yeah, it's still guapamo, chihuahua and like I thought my dad was the most gorgeous man ever. He had this like black beard and black and it was a ladies man, bro.
Speaker 2That's the truth. That's the truth you want to know. And I was like I would get so excited.
Speaker 3I would like you know how, like when you were very excited or very worried, you get that pit of the stomach and you're like I'll be vomiting that. And they're like, why are you so excited? Like, oh, my dad's coming for his chicago and like, yeah, he would like buy me all kinds of cool stuff.
Speaker 2And I was like, and he was just so like put together, like he had like the the nice clothes, nice fucking jewelry always yeah, I was like, I was like they were hustlers, bro, when they were in chicago they were hustlers in the very pit of the word. It wasn't that, they were hustling with fucking drugs, and then they were hustlers in every way. Yeah, make. Their fucking goal was make a fucking dollar. And you know, they love the street. Man, all of them love the street. They like to be out, they like to fucking have fun. Um, you know, know that's just how they were.
Speaker 3Man, the first time I went to Chicago, we actually it was 1990, and we actually spent all our like evenings at the bar that they hung out at, el Chino and the lady knew him so well and they had the big pool players. My tio, jesus, right, yeah, but at that place they had pool tables and the lady just gave us quarters after quarters for my brother and I. We would just, and my mom and her and my dad would just reminiscence for hours like we were there for a week and every evening we were there. And one day the lady's like, ah, silvino, are you going to show the kids anything else? I was like, yeah, we do during the day, but they reminisce. And my dad to this day when he goes to Chicago he can go and drive the streets like nothing.
Speaker 2Yeah, he knows, he knows everything.
Speaker 3And Chicago has changed so much. Oh yeah, for sure. My wife's from the midwest, from iowa. So when we go back up to iowa, always I have cousins on my mom's side that still live there and we always go back and it's just grown so so much you know. And uh, yeah, we always give them shit about chicago.
Speaker 2Yeah, because, yeah, we once. Once my dad got here, chicago was in the rear view, like once we got here, we were pure fucking texas, like that's how. That's how it was for me, because at the time, back when I was, when I or whenever I was born and both me and my sister was here, we're here my dad was already full-blown fucking oil man like that's, that was his. That's what he did, chopping off his fucking fingers shit was wild it was hardcore back then, like fucking tying a rope around himself for Derek.
Speaker 1We've talked about that watching fights after he chopped his finger off it's still to this day.
Speaker 2He had to retire because he was very he was very old school, even now working. Somebody said something that he felt was insulting. He wanted to fight right then and there, like how they used to back in the day, and so, yeah, for me, I was always a fucking Texas man, so I always gave him shit about Chicago, like constantly dude.
Speaker 3Well, we love Chicago but we're Texan Like I'm very proud. When I went up to Iowa I'd be like, where are you from? I was like Midland Texas. I'd be like, where are you from? He's like Midland Texas. No-transcript texas kids from the rio grande valley and they always talk shit about the rgv having better football than west texas.
Speaker 3yeah, that was bullshit come on we had midland lee and then in 2002 we almost won that state championship against covered converse judson. Yeah, remember when they threw that touchdown midland high almost won the state championship. I was like, come on, I have never heard of like mercedes or whatever down there saying that they're. They always said, oh yeah, our team Like no, they're not. We have Midland Lee, we have Odessa Permian, we have Midland High. What?
Speaker 3is wrong with you. They always told me that I was like. There's no way I was like. If you were like, if you came from like Duncanville or somewhere from there, cause, like Duncanville and Dunbar and those schools are like, because I was at Midland High at the glory years of basketball, Basketball, right, and so Duncanville, dunbar, there was a school out in El Paso, that's part of what's the school. There was the powerhouses, you know.
Speaker 2There's still fucking powerhouses. Yeah, there's still powerhouses. They don't play.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, you know, uh, you know, uh, flower mound, and was it, yeah, flower men's in Dallas?
Speaker 3And then you had, you had Houston schools every once in a while you know if you see Dallas on the fucking schedule, you're listening, sorry, yeah, my friends, my roommates were for Brownsville, right, yeah, and I was like Midland Lee is my rival school but they won three national championships in a row, yeah, yeah, and they won the national championship in one of them, you know, yeah, I was like they had cedric winston, eric winston, yeah, uh, who was um, the hispanic guy?
Speaker 2that was the, the lineman, the huge guy, subia subia subia, I was like they had a killer magana, the two fucking guards at the time.
Speaker 3They're killers they had killer teams. I was like and like I wasn't a middle and high kid that thought that we really had a chance. My senior year we did remember lance nicks. He plays, he played baseball.
Speaker 1He was our quarterback and he broke he broke our hearts.
Speaker 3He, I think, did he fumbled or threw an interception there. No, at the he, he.
Speaker 2I know I don't know if it was a fun, was a turnover, yeah, and then it was a bomb to beat y'all in the fucking fourth quarter. A bomb like it was, it was final seconds, fucking Lehigh threw up. It was literally a Hail Mary, but it was a bomb, fucking scored a touchdown. I remember that shit was really heartbreaking. Everybody was like I mean we weren't heartbroken.
Speaker 32000 that was my year. Yeah, everybody was fucking and it was just. It was just terrible that, like, I had a lot of friends on the football team, right, but we knew that when basketball came around we're gonna put it down yeah, for sure, we, for sure we had a thing called uh, put the dick down.
Speaker 1Yeah, a pdd or something that we we said and um it was.
Speaker 3It was like it was a rival in basketball. But we were very cordial Because I remember we were playing Lee and Eric Winston was their center and I thought he was just going to be a total asshole or whatever. But sweet kid, he was like. Our star player at the time was Blake Johnson. He went to Oklahoma and he took it to the rack and he got leveled by Eric and he was so apologetic he's like I'm sorry, that's not the way I play, I am so sorry, but it's like those games. And then Roy Williams at Permian we played I had three, threes in his eye.
Speaker 2I like Roy Williams. That's crazy man. I fucking I love Roy Williams.
Speaker 3He was so athletic, oh my God. And he was like he was so good at basketball. But I knew since, I think that Roy, I think he went to Nimitz.
Speaker 2Nimitz Junior. I have no idea who went Junior, I don't know.
Speaker 3I think Nimitz maybe or Hood, I don't remember, but like.
Speaker 2Hood. I never heard of a good fucking sports team at Hood ever so it had to be Nimitz, yeah, I was seeing. Nimitz yeah. Nimitz in junior high was the sports place for.
Speaker 3Well, yeah, Nimitz was a thing and they fed into Permian, I think. The other one was like we went to Ector. Yeah, forget about those motherfuckersers we got them on the fucking schedule, like w yeah, what one.
Speaker 3Uh w well, odessa high was also like an afterthought back then oh yeah yeah, because, like, so, like our division was always it was midland high, midland league, odessa pyramid, odessa high. And then san angelo, san angelo and san ang, my senior year they had an amazing kid there. I don't remember his name, but I think he went D1. And man, that kid could ball. Yeah, like he was amazing, yeah. And then we played for a state championship in 98. I wasn't on that team, I was on the JV, yeah, but 99 and 2000,. We played, he, he, he made it to the nba, yeah, I forgot his name, he, he, tom hawk dunked on me, yeah, yeah. But yeah, basketball, like I wasn't. I wasn't a great athlete, uh, the only thing that I could do very well is shoot a three-pointer. I hate it to run, I hate it to play defense yeah I could rebound.
Speaker 3I'm six one, but I could shoot a three like. I could shoot a three like. No yeah, you could always yeah, and that's that comes from my dad like my dad's uh, and, and when I was I wasn't even thinking about going to play college ball until coach stevenson here's like I think you can play at a small school somewhere yeah and uh, I think he's, he set up something as soul raw, soul ross, yeah, but they don't give, uh, they don't give basketball scholarships.
Speaker 3They would give you like a rodeo scholarship or something of some sort. And then, um, the coach from iowa, his daughter got a job teaching here and moved here and was at a summer league games a couple years before, and so this pipeline started from Midland up there.
Speaker 3Yeah, so we had really good couple of women basketball players. Michelle Acosta is one of them. She was really good. She actually played professionally. She got there to Sweden and tore up her knee Fuck yeah. Yeah, and she actually lives in South Texas now. We keep up with her. And then Coach Stevenson, his son, played there too with us and it was just fun Like we played a lot of Midwestern schools.
Speaker 2Shelly played basketball yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, my wife played basketball and volleyball. Yeah, my wife, I'm six one. My wife is six foot.
Speaker 2Yeah, shelly's an athlete.
Speaker 3Yeah, and my, my kids, like my kids, 13 and she's like five, eight.
Speaker 2Yeah, damn.
Sports Rivalries and High School Basketball
Speaker 3She's a volleyball player, yeah, and um, missouri, kansas, yeah. So when you play in a, it's not like division one. When you get, are you getting a van and like there's snow, you can't see nothing in the snow, the snow is blinding and you have deer going and you're like, all right, we have to make it to Benedict college, you know, in Atkinson, kansas, or like our longest trip was like lyndonwood uh university in st louis, I think it was like six or seven hours and we did get like a charter bus with those right and like every every school had like just different types of flooring that they played. Like there was a school in kansas city called will and jewel and their stuff is plastic instead of hardwood. Hardwood, what do you mean? Like the court is plastic, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, it was like it wasn't hard.
Speaker 2It wasn't hard, uh, it's not that shit that had like the gaps in it no, not like the one at the at the table.
Speaker 3No, no, no, no, no, it was just made out of. It didn't give, but it was like not hardwood and like there was like shoes. Gotta be fucking terrible on that yeah, and there was another one, like I don't know if you guys ever seen the vanderbilt um university uh basketball gym, but it's like it's rised and you sit on the sides and so it's risen, it's it's off, it's off, it's off the floor.
Speaker 3Yeah, so there was one missouri missouri valley and shit like yeah, and it was like everything else was dark and I was like this is weird and then the. The funniest story about basketball is like uh, after 9-11, uh, my parents drove up there to watch me play a game I remember them going up there.
Speaker 3I was like and this was after 9-11, right, and so it was right. We always played a game right before thanksgiving and then we were off for thanksgiving and we'd have to come back until everybody else, right, but we had a game that that right, the day of we're off, yeah, and my parents arrive and no one's going to our games because everybody's gone. There's like four, there's like four people, and it's my sister, my dad and my mom and a few other people, right, and we're playing a game and I'm, um, I'm, I'm playing, all right, and I'm shooting a free throw, and all you hear is my mom, which is, uh, turn around, so I can take a picture of you in the gym look at the camera the coach took me out.
Speaker 3I was like franco, what was that? I was like oh, my mom wanted me to take take a picture that's regular shit, yeah like that was a great thing. It's like moms did not know, like basketball like uh, um, she helped at like one of the tournaments here. You know we have them here at the chat center yeah, and we were. We're playing somebody's. What is it somewhere in somebody from dallas? Yeah, and I heard my ankle and all I hear I'm equal and this is like the chat center.
Speaker 2Yeah you can hear everything he's like, I'm equal I was like oh, my mom that was always constant and I swear we all of us fucking, constantly fucking rolling our ankles. Dude, I did that shit all the time playing football, like my fucking shoes were always padded like a motherfucker. When I played football, this motherfucker was always like you got used to it, like you'd just get a sprain and be like, yeah, I don't fucking go away after a while or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 3And then, like every time, my mom would go to a game and the guys were really big and they're like you're going to play against these guys, Because one time when they went to Iowa to play, we were playing a Division I junior college.
Speaker 2Oh shit.
Speaker 3And like these guys were all going to D1 schools and like there was like guys that were like 400 pounds, that were 6'9" just dunking, I was like I was like now those motherfuckers are 7'3".
Speaker 2Yeah, I was like this is insane.
Speaker 3I was like, and I was like, yeah, we're going to play against these guys. I was like, yeah, so, yeah, so yeah. Iowa was pretty cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, cool. Yeah, I mean you've been all over the place now and now I fucking now in south carolina. But now in south carolina, what's your line of work now? Like what's your job, like what's your title?
Speaker 3so I got it, I got it, I got it. I moved to south carolina in 2007, so I graduated from graceland in 2004 and then I met a girl my wife I made. I met a girl and this girl was like, yeah, I really don't want a relationship. Yeah, because I'm gonna go to grad school. I never thought about grad school. Yeah, but she's like oh, I'm starting to like you a lot. So she started looking at grad schools down here in texas. So she I think she looked at university of texas, texas a&m, texas tech. She wanted to go to grad school. So my, my wife was into biology, she was into science, so, um, so I never thought about grad school. Then, like our parents say go to college, get a bachelor's, you're good, right yeah, 100 and then.
Speaker 3So my wife was like I'm gonna go to grad school. She wanted to be a research scientist, right. And so she started looking at schools down here. And then our senior, our spring break of our senior year, we drove down to midland and she said, hey, texas a, because when you're in the biological science they recruit you like an athlete. And she's like Texas A&M is recruiting me, can we go to Texas A&M? And I was like yeah, and she's like, how far is it? I was like eight hours. And so we came in for like the first two days here and then we went down to Texas A&M and my wife has always wanted to be an oceanographer, which is not a marine biologist. They study the ocean, not the animals of the ocean, right. And I was like how the hell does this kid from Iowa wants to be an oceanographer? And her mom said, yeah, since she was five she's wanted to be an oceanographer.
Speaker 1In the middle of Iowa, yeah right.
Speaker 3So we went to Texas A&M and when we left we're driving through, is it Abilene? Abilene, yeah, and I was like you're coming to A&M, aren't you?
Speaker 2She's like yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3I was like okay, and so I moved back and I didn't think about grad school, but my parents were not going to let me go to College Station just for fun.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3So I actually got a job here at dr brady as a sleep tech. I did sleep studies there and then my wife is like you know, you should try to go to grad school, um here, so we can be together. And I was like, yeah, I'll think about it. So I filled out the paperwork and got into the school of public health there and then I I moved. She moved august what is it? She moved to college station august 04. I didn't move to college station till august of 05.
Speaker 3Yeah, and that was during the katrina hurricanes. Like college station was insane during that time because we had a lot of the people from um louisiana had moved in. And then my, I got a job as a. I did sleep studies, I watch people sleep at night. And I got a job there at St Joseph Hospital and it was my first week of school and then it was going to be my first week of starting to work there and Hurricane Rita was coming and so they it was really amazing what A&M did at that time so Rita was coming and supposedly it was going to hit Houston and they evacuated and I don't know if you guys have ever gone from College Station to Houston.
Speaker 3It was a small, it wasn't too much, the interstate wasn't too big at the time. So they were evacuating people and my mom you know being never, we never had to do anything with hurricanes she's like are you coming home? Because the university closed. And I was like, yeah, and I was literally hung up with my mom, went back. I was taking biostats, biostatistics, and I was going back and I turned off my phone after class, turn it on and it was my new boss and she's like hey, we are turning the animal hospital at a and m into a shelter and a hospital for people. Damn, you're going to be there 24, 7 until this thing goes away. Yeah, so I hadn't even had scrubs yet. I went and ran and got scrubs and went into the, into the uh, into the animal shelter hospital for sheltering people, and we had people that were on the road for 16, 17 hours.
Speaker 3And then, when you're spanish-speaking, you're like, oh, here, all the spanish-speaking people come to your side and, like you can see, some of the dads were like, just like, because I would tell them like your's over, you can come with food over here. You know we have cots over here and the dads would go straight to the cots, because you and I we grew up like one vehicle, that wasn't even an extended cab truck, and so you know. So it was a very neat and stressful time during that time. During that time. And then so two years pass, my wife gets the opportunity to go to South Carolina, to the University of South Carolina, to do her PhD, and with the same advisor from A&M and she has.
Speaker 3Actually, when she was at Grayson as an undergrad, she went to College of Charleston and she did research on shrimp or something and and she loved South Carolina. So she was like I'm going to go there, will you go too? So she had gotten, she was actually not done with A&M yet. She actually came back and defended her thesis, but she was already at South Carolina and then I literally took my last exam at A&M in 2007. I had my car packed, drove and I was so hyped. I was taking Pepsi Monsters, 500 drinks, and when I got to Tuscaloosa, alabama called my girlfriend. I was like I was going to try to make it in one day. It was 18 hours and I was like I'm not going to make it, my heart's going to explode.
Speaker 3So I pulled over in Tuscaloosa, uh, where the university of alabama is, and I got a hotel like a just hotel, and then I made it the next day and then I just needed a job. I actually started off at um asacolana hispanic outreach. It's an organization that helps um, that does uh helps the hispan Hispanic community there, and I help with grants and that type of thing, and it was like $13 an hour and then I was like I need a full-time job and then I started noticing that they have interpreters at the hospital.
Speaker 3I'm like what the hell is an interpreter thing? Because I've never seen that. In Texas I was like interpreters and when I worked at St joseph and and and college station it was like man it's. I'd never seen an interpreter and these were full-time spanish medical interpreter.
Speaker 3They were doing, yeah and I was like I need a job. And then they call me and they're like and you know, you're very well educated. And I was like, well, very educated, people need to eat too. Yeah right. So I was like very well educated. And I was like, well, very well educated.
Speaker 1People need to eat too, yeah Right.
Speaker 3So I was like I do whatever you need. I was like, and they're like, so you can win, and you took a test and you did no verbal Right and my medical Spanish was all right.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And I stayed with that company from 2008 to 2021. And I interpreted it. I said OBGYN to 2021, um, and I interpreted. I said obgyn, um. I delivered babies, I told the ladies what they needed to do. I was in there like I knew a lot like the moms. Yeah, I did pediatrics and at the same time, when I got the job there at the hospital um, I applied for a job in infectious diseases yeah they needed a case manager and at that time, case manager position is a social work position.
Speaker 3Yeah, so all you need is have some type of master's degree or whatever and you can be a case manager at work in infectious diseases. Yeah, I applied. I didn't get the job, but the executive director really took a liking to me and she would actually call me every once in a while just to check to see how they're doing. And I was like, oh, I'm still interpreting, whatever. And then one day, out of the lift, that mic you lift it more and more push, it push it, it'll go, it'll go, just lift.
Speaker 3All right, there you go so the executive director really, really, really, really enjoyed I gotta bring it down.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, it's because it's because the camera yeah, you're good yeah, a little more, a little more, more, a little more.
Speaker 3You're good Okay.
Speaker 2That's why I always do it upright is when I talk to you.
Speaker 1No, he's good, he's good, you can even bring it right here. I'm sorry, man, you can just fucking talk regular and I'll catch it all, yeah.
Speaker 3So the executive director took a liking to me and then she actually said you know, have, um, I'm gonna tell the company that you work with, which is they work for the hospital yeah, to see if they can bring you, like, have a hispanic day here at the clinic and bring you on thursday and you can be our interpreter. So this clinic infects diseases. We did uh hiv aids care so we took care of uh all patients living with hiv. Uh, they're the largest clinic in the state. I think they have like 24 to 2800 patients now with hiv. Um, unfortunately, the southern clinic in the state. I think they have like 24 to 2,800 patients now with HIV.
Speaker 3Unfortunately, the southern states are the highest with HIV and all STIs, stds, stis, you know, from syphilis to gonorrhea to HIV. Unfortunately, the southern states have the highest rates of that Right. And so I started off going Thursdays to interpret and then one day I emailed the executive director. I was like are there any openings? And they're like, oh yeah, there is this new opening for you that, uh, it's called an assistant case manager. And I was like, yeah, so I applied, I got the job, and I got the job at the worst time. So in hiv aids, most states have programs that help you with medications. So if you, if you test positive with hiv and you don't have insurance, there's it's called the ryan white grant, so that covers your medical appointments and it covers your labs and it also covers medications if you're at a certain amount of income. Right, yeah, and so at that time the state of south carolina took away that funding. So there was, you could, people could still go to the doctor and get their labs for the medication part, yeah, it was. It was when we were having the economic, economic, uh downturn, downturn yeah so it was natural that that funding was going to go away yeah
Speaker 3and so what we had to do is we had to go to each individual drug company and ask for the medications Shit, yeah. So it was a very interesting time. I know a lot about your how to get HIV medications and other stuff because at the time for HIV care it was a cocktail of usually three to four medications and all three of them did not come from the same company. One would come from Bristol, myers Squibb, one would come from Gilead and another one would come from it was called Abbott. At the time it was called Abbey, so each of them and the people needed to take all three medications at once, right, and they all had different forms. They have different ways they come.
Speaker 3So a lot of us was educating patients on you know, this medication that they're going to send you a 90-day supply. This medication, they're going to give you a card. You're going to go to the pharmacy and you get to get one medication a month. This medication, they're going to send you a one month supply in the mail. So it was educating people on that, making them understand that. And then there's also a lot of like mental health issues. There's a lot of poverty. Unfortunately, hiv is very poverty stricken, yeah, and there's also a lot of sex education. You know at the time you know if you're HIV positive. You know we would say still have sex, but wear a condom.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Nowadays. Now if you take medications it's good to take you wear protection.
Speaker 2I see all this shit like the like. Well, of course, now that's so fucking like published, like all this shit, like now the medication that's like PrEP medication. I see that shit all the time. Now I don't know what the fuck it is or what it does, but I see it all the time.
Speaker 3So so PrEP is medication that you take to prevent HIV.
Speaker 2Yeah, If you're high risk or whatever. High risk yeah.
Speaker 3At the beginning of it I wasn't too thrilled. Thrilled about it because, like the, the studies at the beginning said that use prep with condom use well, just condom using, and that at all yeah but it's gotten better, uh now, and so I'll work with a lot of our lgbtq population, transgender patients. I had four Spanish-speaking transgender ladies that were transitioning and they were actually getting their hormones from Mexico, and so that was messing up their lives like crazy and we're like what are you doing?
Speaker 3It's like oh see, let's try it with Mexico. I was like oh yeah. So we had to look and I was like oh, and Mexico doesn't have.
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Speaker 2It's funny because, like Mexico, la sara go to Mexico. I was like, oh yeah, so we had to look and I was like, oh, and Mexico doesn't have. It's funny because like Mexico. For the same reason that some people love it, other people it's fucking rough. Because people love it, because there's no like.
Speaker 1There's no restrictions.
Speaker 2There's no restrictions, yeah it's easy and you can whatever, but when you have something like that can be potentially fatal and shit like fuck it's, you want to know that you're taking the right shit right yeah and and so and.
Speaker 3So we've started actually working towards helping them get their hormones. So, um, like one of them, actually, I've been out of the clinic since 2021 and they still want to actually text me and say, hey, you know, can you get the clinic? Because we do provide transportation, because the biggest, the most important part of like HIV care is that people continue coming into the medical care because it's a public health thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3Like, as long as they're in care, they're taking their meds, they're going to be fine and the possibility of them giving it to somebody else drops dramatically right, yeah, yeah, and that's part of you know part of lessening the, the fucking curve, yeah, but it's been, it's been huge right like the, the, the.
Speaker 2I know that it came out recently I don't know when it was, but I know it was published recently that that hiv is no longer considered a, um, a, uh that sentence yeah, essentially right yeah, and it just came out recently that now you could live a full life.
Speaker 3Yeah, and it's because it's stuff like that yeah, it's a, it's like we call it hard uh, highly antiretroviral medications? Um, yeah, because, and nowadays it's like one pill, maybe a little bit smaller than my nail, that they have once a day wow, and it's fucking crazy man and it's really neat like.
Speaker 3Like when I started, it was like they were barely starting with like the one medication a day regimen and it was like a big horse pill yeah, it was called a triple O and it was three medications in one yeah, and the biggest issue is people. They would call them nightmares, but there were like vivid dreams that they would have.
Speaker 2Now, those are fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah. So I would tell people I was like after two weeks you're straight, right. And then you know a lot of my patients because I was the Spanish-speaking guy, were Hispanic, were Spanish-speaking. Most of them were from Mexico. It was really weird for a while that like a large percentage were from Oaxaca a while that like a large percentage were from Oaxaca.
Speaker 3So I, I, um, I would connect, contact, contact, uh, give him contact with Oaxaca a lot, because I had a lot of them that would go back and I was just trying to make sure. So in the United States we have like the Ryan White clinics, like where I came from, and they're multiple in States and in Mexico. They have the same system but it's just one oh shit.
Speaker 3Yeah. So like I've had people that would go back to oaxaca and then I was like, so where are you going to care? And it's like on and in acapulco. And I'm like why? And he's like, oh, because the clinic in oaxaca is like six hours away and acapulco is only two hours away. Yeah, um, and so like I had to make those connections where they would go back, like Central American countries, was a little bit more difficult because like they were really behind on some of the meds and it was easier to get in contact with them.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3So yeah, infectious disease was really great. Covid hit. It was pretty rough, yeah, because I didn't get to go home.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remember you would talk about that shit.
Speaker 3Yeah, I didn't get to go home Because even though we kind of closed down the clinic, a lot of people would show up at the clinic and be like because, we were still an infectious disease clinic, yeah and you had to be available.
Speaker 3Yeah, we had to be available, and by little like the like, I had to make schedules for my because I became the director later of the social work department there later on. And I have to, I have to. I would have to make a schedule on a weekly basis, um to have enough people there in the clinic to cover all that.
Speaker 3Yeah, so yeah so it was, it was interesting and at the same time, we had the issue with my child. So when I became director, I was actually in boston, uh, with my kid, yeah, um, and then I came back and I was just burned out, yeah, and so it was a lot that first year. It was a lot, yeah, it was uh, yeah. So I, I was director, I was in the clinic from uh on 2009 to 2021. Yeah, I loved. I loved I loved infectious diseases Like I love it.
Speaker 2It's fucking crazy to hear somebody say that.
Speaker 1I know, that sounds scary.
Speaker 2Yeah, find your shit like this is what it is.
Speaker 3I just loved infectious diseases. I love people coming in and being like how much time do I have, yeah, and I was like if you take your meds can do what you're supposed to. Yeah, you can live a full healthy life. It's not a big like, it's not a big deal it's like delivering almost hope and good news to someone yeah, because people were like I'm done, I'm done and like.
Speaker 3I had people that were like like they would get tested by the health department and then they wouldn't get connected to me right away and I'll call it like hey, I'm calling for um spanish-speaking folks and like I'm calling for such and such person. We have set up an appointment with them, we're going to start their treatment and they're like they went back to Mexico to die and I was like they don't have to die, but they have some of them. It's crazy.
Speaker 2We'll go back, but it's because at the time, it has a stigma right, it has that stigma that you can't do anything about it and like it's people, especially Spanish-speaking people and people that you know aren't Americanized or know any of the system stuff or anything around here Like that shit's really important for the Hispanic community, especially Like it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3And it was just, and a lot of them still like feel like they're taking something away, and I would have to tell them. I was like you know, this is a federal grant, it's a public health thing. I was like don't feel like you're taking. Because some of them were like you guys are doing too much for us, You're giving us meds, You're doing labs, You're seeing us, and they didn't feel like they deserved it, right. And I was like no, this is a public health thing.
Speaker 2I was like the money's there for that. That's why we have the Ryan White grant. But you know, Raza man, they're not trying to take anything for free from nobody, which is crazy. So y'all you know what I'm saying. Like it's true. It is true. Most of you know, the immigrants that we have here are really, really trying to pay their way and do it their way you know. But thank God you know united states does um have stuff like that man yeah, it's it's some real important to curb that the death rate.
Speaker 2I mean it's been and now, like I said, now it's not, it's not a death sentence. You're good, like and like.
Speaker 3Unfortunately, I had a lot of like sex trafficking people like that's fucking crazy we had people, we had ladies that were just wandering and they, we, like a good samaritan, would pick them up and they're like yeah, like somebody brought me over here, said that they were going to kill my family and they sold me out, but this lady, her, the person that was pimping her out died just out of the blue.
Speaker 1And she had nobody.
Speaker 3She was just wandering.
Speaker 2And she was pregnant.
Speaker 3She was just wandering and she didn't speak Spanish either. She was from Central America.
Speaker 2Oh shit dude.
Speaker 3Yeah, so it was hectic. It was a hectic time. Now her Spanish is pretty good, but I'm just saying like we had a lot of those. We had one that had a fever for a while.
Speaker 3And she didn't know why. And then she ended up in the hospital and then same thing also, like she was trafficked over here. So it was like I said, it's weird. I love infectious disease. The doctors still contact me for what would you do? Because I work with a lot of. Also, a lot of the patients have insurance and even though you have insurance, medication is very expensive. Medicare is a pain. Sometimes it makes it very difficult. So the doctors will holler like hey, fonzie, this and that is going on, but I loved it. Sometimes, yeah, um, it makes it very difficult. So the doctors will like holler like, hey, fonzie, you know this, this is that going on. But I, I loved it. But then I got the opportunity to work from home yeah, do public health, amazing dude yeah, uh, do public health.
Speaker 3Yeah, and um, it was, it was, it was god sent. Yeah, I get to take my kid to all those therapies. It it's very flexible. Um, you know I'll work with a great team, um, and, and you know, the biggest thing is I get to help my kid. So, so I, so I've been doing like health initiatives in the community since 2021. Um, and I still have a big focus is with, still with the Hispanic community.
Speaker 2Like I have a soft heart for them yeah, of course, man, that's where we come from and in south carolina, is actually one of the largest growing hispanic communities in the country.
Speaker 3Yeah, um, and mostly, mostly everybody's from south, south mexico south mexico, so they're like you're not mexican.
Speaker 2I was like yes, I am, yeah he's like you're too big to be mexican.
Speaker 3And I was like, yes, I'm from Chihuahua. And I got to tell you I was like us from Chihuahua people we're tall and lighter skin, yeah.
Speaker 2North Mexico man.
Speaker 3Yeah, we're lighter skin, so I always have to tell him that I was like.
Speaker 1I didn't know that.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a thing. If you go, you know I'm saying you go up, you're a little bit lighter skin. But even like the big melting pot is the f is mexico city you see every shape and fucking size there like it's great. Mexicans with green eyes, blonde hair yeah, I know, that's fucking crazy yeah that's crazy man yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3Uh, yeah, it's crazy, the northern mexico we're really tall like, and that's why, like chihuahua, dominates in basketball.
Speaker 2Yeah, of course we're legit. Yeah, we had some people, man whoa Eduardo Najera from Yoki Najera, bro from Yoki.
Speaker 3So I was a big Oklahoma Sooner fan because of him, Eduardo Najera, if you go by and see him.
Speaker 2He got down, bro, I don't give a fuck what nobody says.
Speaker 3he got down he wasn't from his hometown and every time I went to see his hometown I was like maybe he's walking around he played in these canchas right here.
Speaker 2That's where canchas were where you played basketball and soccer. They usually had like one fucking soccer, like goal, straight fucking steel, and the backdrop was the wall. So you lose the ball and then you had the two fucking basketball.
Speaker 3That's how it was typically set up everything fucking steel blazing hot like so, in chihuahua city, um, they have a big um gym, okay, and I think it was my 2000,. My when was it? I was at A&M and I came to my parents to Baeza.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3You didn't come. Your dad's parents did. But in Chihuahua, the national team, the Mexican national team, was playing Argentina. That's Mono Ginobili was on the team.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's big time.
Speaker 3Holy, like it was. Like you never experienced basketball until you. It was insane.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Like Eduardo Nargara was on the Mexican team. Ginobili was another team and there was another couple. Like his name is Splinter, he plays also on the. He also played for the Spurs and they stopped the game in the third quarter because there were some.
Speaker 3There was some fighting, but not eduardo naja that was. Somebody was trying to hurt mano genovoly on the quarter or something, and you know how we are. They started throwing bottles out of the thing and so they canceled, but it was a great game and I was like I was like who's this model guy? And then the following year he was on the Spurs.
Speaker 2Yeah, Manu went crazy.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, he was amazing. I was like who's this?
Speaker 2And now, fucking Europeans are like taking over the fucking Spurs.
Speaker 3Yeah, and I was like, and I remember I was like, man, I'm going to pay 100 pesos to watch this. Yeah, Because I thought it was expensive back then 100 pesos, yeah, yeah yeah, it was a lot back then and I was like I'm gonna fork it off and I went by myself. My dad left me and I didn't know where I was doing well, that was normal.
Speaker 2Yeah, you went to those, yeah, yeah, so I was like I was like oh, this is, this is amazing.
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Speaker 3But yeah, so yeah, we're getting back to like. So I did infectious diseases, I love it. I, I told I tell the doctors I go back. If, uh, if y' I could be more flexible.
Speaker 2Got to watch 28 Weeks Later. Or 28 months.
Speaker 1No 28 years now 28 years.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, those are already out.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I got a question, though I always thought about this. You know, like on the movies, those guys who do SB, blood Brothers, and they fucking slice their hands. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3Is that good or bad?
Speaker 2bad, that's probably bad because you're probably getting some type of hepatitis or something that's how hepatitis.
Speaker 1I always wanted to do this and I got a fucking question about this vaccine.
Speaker 2So the vaccine that's really in everybody, on everybody's fucking mind right now. You that you know, right, because it's hepatitis b. As soon as the baby's born, within hours of their birth, they're given the hepatitis b vaccine. Do, soon as the baby's born, within hours of their birth, they're given the hepatitis B vaccine. Do you think that's necessary?
Speaker 3That was difficult because I never really thought about it, because when I did a lot of interpreting I was like, oh, you want to get hepatitis B vaccine? And they're like, yeah, and it was never.
Speaker 1And I started looking into it. Yeah, I didn't question it either.
Speaker 3I've never questioned it, but any type of like hepatitis is usually like sexually transmitted exactly. Uh, the the big one is like hep c, hep c. So hep c actually has a like an hiv. You have a viral load, meaning how much virus is in your blood yeah and hep c does too, and hep c just does a thing on your liver, right, yeah, and there is treatment. Now I think it's $100,000. I think that's how much it costs. Damn. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2So what? Eliminate the motherfucker or what? Yeah it's, it's got to be shit for $100,000,.
Speaker 3Dude, I think it's a 12-week thing, wow.
Speaker 2Yeah, but.
Speaker 3Yeah, I gave it to both my kids, so I never thought about it. I gave it to both my kids too. I never thought about it.
Speaker 2But we're just now right. Rfk is bringing in the shit.
Speaker 3Yeah, you want to reduce the list and everything, Because like, I think, hepatitis A you get it from like dirty fruit or stuff like that, like eskrimine of that time Okay. And I never thought about hep B like also being sick, sexually transmitted. But when they brought it up I Googled it and I was like oh it is. And I was like I wonder why they do that in a vaccine. Yeah, because it's right away, like they tell you.
Speaker 2Immediately. You want a.
Speaker 3Hep B shot and I was like I think it's Hep B and like a vitamin K or something.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it's so crazy because now, like, the amount of lab work that they do on mothers is fucking insane, so is fucking insane yeah, so they do a lot of lab work so I would think yo, they know about they, they would know, yeah, you have hep b already and you know the vaccine will. Of course we have to get the vaccine immediately or something. So I didn't think about that shit. I just kind of like you know, sheep that out. You know, yeah, I'll fucking follow these motherfuckers, just follow the rules.
Speaker 1That's it, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 3It's a. Yeah. Like I said, I never really thought about it as being. I always thought it was like a hep A kind of thing where it's not sexually transmitted. And then I was like, let me look at it. And I've actually never asked my doctor buddies because I'm pretty close to them. So whenever I have like a question or concern, I'll just like this is going on with my dad, like what should we do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, dad, like what should we do, or yeah?
Speaker 2something like that, but I've never really thought about it like um, like the one you were talking about a while back, like the hpv, yeah, yeah, like that's like the human papillomelos, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3So when I was at a&m, I remember that, um, I think they were trying to make it across the board, uh-huh, yeah, because that when it first started, I think it was just for if you were did not have sex or you're in a monogamous relationship, yeah, you can get the vaccine. But I think the hpv works pretty well. But I think at that time texas was trying to make it across the board, because I think it was a time also where there, like there was something on something about gay marriage, on the ballot thing. I remember.
Speaker 2I don't remember Because I wasn't in Texas very long. I was in it for two years. Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 3So yeah, so that was very interesting.
Speaker 2And YouTube. We're not seeing anything disparaging about this.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, I don't know if this will make it on there, but we will put on Rumble.
Speaker 2We might not get the whole vaccine, but Rumble Rumble will get whole vaccine, but rumble rumble get all. Nx.
Speaker 1You don't fuck around, yeah they don't, they get us quick. But you were right, you, when you corrected me, you were right and I had got and I looked it up and I was like, damn, I could have swirled right. But then I got confused with head b yeah, and that's where that got me.
Speaker 3Those were the two, but I appreciate you doing that, yeah. Yeah, it's a. I know more about hiv. Yeah, like vaccines in general, like I can tell you everything, I can tell you anything. I can tell you how to prevent it.
Speaker 1All the blood-borne rules and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3But like, yeah, vaccines, there was a little bit like, and I did ask, like with COVID, like I asked my. I worked in infectious diseases and I was one of the first ones.
Speaker 2Like.
Speaker 3I think I got my COVID vaccine. Was it December 27th?
Speaker 2Shit, I don't know when it came out. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3I think I was one of the first ones and like I didn't have any issues. But then I did get a booster later on and I actually went home because I started trembling. I was like es calo frio, yeah yeah yeah. And so that's the only thing I got right. But you know I always ask them, you know, and you know I always ask him. You know, if you were going to give it to your kids, would you? Because we were always so worried about Javi because he had just gotten back from.
Speaker 2I did the same thing with my doctor. I called him and asked him.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2He was like I mean, don't be worried about your kid, you don't have to get her vaccinated. The kids seem to be doing very well with the sickness.
Speaker 3It was just a scary time of the unknown 100 because I remember like at the beginning I would come and my wife is like get undressed outside of the deck oh, and then go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2I did it in the garage and then spray is probably not the healthiest fucking thing, but spray myself with lysol yeah, it's probably the worst and it was just difficult, it was just because it's like, uh, you know, I actually worked as an interpreter.
Speaker 3They had sent the interpreters home and I was like walking around the hospital and it wasn't masking very much yet right yeah. And I'm actually in the labor and delivery floor and I was interpreting lactation Teaching lactation.
Speaker 2Oh okay, cool cool.
Speaker 3And the lactation nurse is like fonzie. What are you doing?
Speaker 3here, and I was like interpreting because I I still kept that job as a side job right, yeah, of course so I was like and I did it like once a month, right, and I wasn't even thinking like you know, this covet thing is happening and that they and because the interpreters were not really part of the hospital, they were like a middleman, yeah, and we got all the information. So I'm like just walking around doing my interpretation and they're like you guys got sent home, you're doing everything over the phone. And I texted my boss and I was like, oh yeah, we are.
Speaker 3And so I actually saw a few COVID people that really didn't know it was COVID until like three weeks later when I'm discharging over the phone, yeah, and I was like, oh, it was COVID when they were there, you know, so it was, it was. It was interesting times, it was very difficult Cause it was, oh yeah, it was difficult.
Speaker 2Well, the unknown is always a motherfucker.
Speaker 1And it was scary at first.
Speaker 2I remember I you know what I mean like just and I just watched that one movie with matt damon a contagion and I was like, oh shit, this is just exactly what happened to watch before that shit happened. But it skyrocketed. I remember seeing that of course, netflix period skyrocketed like a motherfucker at the time. But those contagion movies and like all, that shit skyrocketed, dude, like it was fucking crazy.
Speaker 3But yeah, it was it. Yeah, it was just weird. It's like that's what I got into podcast too yeah like I have never really paid attention to podcasts yeah I didn't know what a podcast is.
Speaker 3And then, out of the blue, I was, I got bored of for some reason because I still have both jobs, like I was the social worker, and then I I did the appropriating right, but it was kind of boring being at home Because the clinic got us to go three days on, two days off, because we had less people coming to the clinic, and so I got bored and I was like I got to do something else and I had Spotify just to just do jam, right. And then, um, I heard of, uh, what is it? Uh, two bears in one cave, yeah. And so that was my first, first, first podcast it's fucking huge now.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's massive, it just started at the time right and like I kept it up and then, little by little, I started going into Joe Rogan and then, like I said, I was at the hospital one day because I work at a rehab hospital part time now yeah, and I was like you put something on Facebook and I was like I need to know. The podcast is like. Joe Rogan was done. I hadn't gotten to the Theo Vaughn yet yeah, he was. Ian was done. I hadn't gotten to Theo Vaughn yet, yeah, he was.
Speaker 1I wasn't hitting.
Speaker 3I wasn't feeling it. Yeah, I am now. I enjoy it, he's hitting now, yeah, and then I was like you. Just, you guys were just talking about West Texas, and then I loved it.
Speaker 1when do we hate Tejano?
Speaker 3music. I just it's like. I was like man, yeah, we hate Tejano music. Like, and I put it on. I was like, yeah, fuck Tejano music.
Speaker 2Yeah, fuck it. Yeah, you did 100%. Yeah, like.
Speaker 3I can't stand it, yeah I think it's something to do with the yeah 100.
Speaker 2That's what I say. Yeah, kiss my ass. The only one I tolerate is Bronco, because our mothers no, but Bronco's not Tejano.
Speaker 3No, it's not, but they play with the keyboard.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah so the only one that I tolerate is Bronco because he's not Tejano.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's not Tejano. No, no, fuck yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2I kind of I don't mind Selena.
Speaker 3Yeah, like when Selena was big, when, like I was in the eighth grade when she died yeah, and I remember I was playing basketball. I came in and my mom said Selena died. We have a cousin named Selena. I was like what?
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I was thinking, and I was like no, no, no the singer.
Speaker 3I was like, oh, and I remember my sister took it pretty hard. Yeah, my little sister took it pretty hard.
Speaker 2But yeah, like yeah, my mom too. It was very surprising. I was like do you believe that happened?
Speaker 3And then your podcast is just very enduring because I miss West Texas. You know like South Carolina is cool but it's not where I'm from.
Speaker 2It's got a nice view though.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tell people I was like you know, west Texas is what you kind of envision of Texas. Like Texas is what you kind of envision of Texas. Like we're cowboy, we got big trucks Every once in a while we ride horses. If you go to my Tiggery Seldah's house, they got goats, they got chickens they got everything Right.
Speaker 3You know we are what you envision of Texas. Yeah, Are you know? Um? And right away people know you're like like we had, Like we have an engineering school at the University of South Carolina. And some people found out I was from Midland and a lot of them were moving to Midland to do stuff in geology here, yeah, geology. And they were like, so what should we expect? And I was like you know, it's not beautiful. Yeah, Aesthetically it's not pleasing. Once you hit Big Spring, you're going to get that smell. We call it the smell of money. Hit big spring, you're gonna get that smell. We call it the smell of money. But you're gonna get that sulfur, yeah, you're gonna. Yeah, delicious sulfur, yeah, you're gonna get that smell. Because when I first brought my wife from iowa, she's like what happened what, what did you do?
Speaker 1run over a skull, yeah, yeah, what'd you?
Speaker 3do with your pants.
Speaker 1I was like nothing, it's money yeah, like you, you hit it and like you get giddy as soon as you leave.
Speaker 3Uh, when I drive now, you get excited as soon as you leave um weatherford, weatherford and you're like weatherford still super green, yeah, and then you get west texas and then, like you feel at home, when you hit abilene yeah, abilene, for sure.
Speaker 2Yeah, you hit abilene.
Speaker 3No, uh, eastland eastland is right before abilene and you're like, oh yeah. And then my kids are so excited to come to west texas, like we have the ocean, we have the beach, we, we go all the time. But I was like we're gonna talk to an abuela's house and we're gonna see goats, we're gonna see chickens, we're gonna eat some goats. We're going to see chickens. We're going to eat some goats. Yeah, we're going to eat some goats Literally every time.
Speaker 3Yeah, everything it's like you know it's. And then that's what brought me back with, like you guys are stories. I never did oil, I've never been in the oil business, you know, but that's what was endearing about y'all.
Speaker 1And when I met ricky I was like, oh, I was a fanboy because I saw him walk and I was gonna like say something, and I was like no I'm better, I'm better away I was like I'm better away for asus.
Speaker 2I was like I am not gonna say anything because like, oh my god, it's freaky yeah it's crazy man and we've had those moments like friends that I wouldn't say friends, but people that knew us in high school and shit. Like now it's a little bit weird Like they talk to us and it's weird for us. We're like fuck, like we don't talk to you.
Speaker 1I would have been scared if you walked through the front door. Yeah, what's up Rick? What's up Rick.
Speaker 2I was like who's this guy?
Speaker 1Because I've never seen you and like you're commenting all the time, man and we talk about it. Yeah, and the reason why you're on is because I saw the comment and I was like, hey, your cousin's in town Hit him up, let's see if we can get him in man. So you know, I appreciate you commenting all the time too.
Speaker 2And we appreciate you commenting Like. I know it's been hectic and everything and alone, but I had talked to you earlier about it. You know let's hang out whenever, whenever we get the chance, but I know you're here on business essentially.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah because I wrote you that long ass text that time about, like because now we have a water burger. South carolina, we got water burger. Yeah, like that was one of the great things about when you come back.
Speaker 2Texas had the water burger the roses the water burger I don't care about in and out.
Speaker 3I don't care about all that five guys. What water burgers where you have it. I don't care about In-N-Out, I don't care about all that Five guys Waterburgers, you have it.
Speaker 1I don't care.
Speaker 3So the closest Waterburger to us In the east coast At the time Was Jacksonville. Jacksonville, florida, florida Fuck, which is Four hours from when I live. We gone down there, we made, we've gone around, but now we have Waterburger In Columbia.
Speaker 1We gone down there, we made, we've gone around and I was like what?
Speaker 3but now we have water burger in columbia, south carolina. I have water burger a mile and a half from my house. Now it's it's not open yet, right, yeah, so I was like I will go to the water burger, put on the patch boys and just be like listening with my uh, chocolate milkshake, my number five, my fries. And then you know, you can't get any more Texan than my. Well, my kids are not Texan, they were born in South Carolina. My kid doesn't really eat solids but he'd be killing that Whataburger ketchup.
Speaker 1Ketchup. He's like Daddy this is good.
Speaker 2I was like yeah, they got fucking smart and started bottling that shit, you know what I'm saying yeah, yeah it was crazy because when we were young it wasn't a big thing Like fast food. Mcdonald's was our thing, right, hey, let's Te. Voy a dar el maldonas porque te portaste bien, or whatever.
Speaker 3Remember when we had the field trips to McDonald's when we were in school. Absolutely, bro.
Speaker 2And we'd go to fucking. We'd go there they. So it was McDonald's. But I got a little bit older and I had friends and they're like we're going to Whataburger, you want to come? I never, never, my parents never took me to Whataburger. I went because I had friends who were Chicano or white and their parents took them. So they took me and they would always be like it's the fucking ketchup, bro, and I'd be like bro, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1It's a fucking burger.
Speaker 2I've ketchup, bro, and I'd be like, bro, what the fuck are you talking about? It's a fucking burger. I've never seen anything so amazing, do you?
Speaker 3do you know my dad's favorite fast food place? You should know, I. I mean, I probably know, but so my dad's favorite food, uh, fast food place is church's chicken yeah, the one on la misa yeah, well, we had the one on middle drive.
Speaker 2He loved like, and I was always thinking like that boy, or something like no, let's go to church on La Misa.
Speaker 3Yeah Well, we had the one on Middle Drive. He loved like get un pollito and I was always thinking like like pollo sasado or something. I was like, no, let's go to churches.
Speaker 2But that was their version. That was their version, like when it was time to sit down, like on a Sunday or something, churches was their go for the mashed potatoes and the coleslaw.
Speaker 3Well, we mix, we mix the fucking gravy spoon, but not that. So now, like we're in south carolina, we're very excited to have water burger. Yeah, like the first one was 11 miles away.
Speaker 2I made the track. Fuck anybody who hates on water.
Speaker 3Yeah, but now I'm now they're building a huge one like one I've I google map at 1.5 miles from my house.
Speaker 3Oh damn Done bro 1.5 miles from my house and it's insane, the lines when they open. The first one that they opened, that was 11 miles away. You got to do it Chick-fil-A style. They had security people, Fuck, and they were like they had different lines. That's crazy. They had different lines when it first opened and they had security people with guns. That's crazy. And they were just like you know, pointing you out and like you know, it was insane. The second one, the hype come down, and then the third one's more closer to the university, closer to where I live.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And so I don't know. It's probably going to be pretty hype. But yeah, like everybody whenever they say that I've never eaten the In-N-Out so I don't know how great it is.
Speaker 3In-N-Out's all right and like we have five guys. Five guys is all right, but there's something about that. My has never changed Number five, which is the bacon cheeseburger, and either Dr Pepper or you know, and like also here I was telling my wife, I was telling my sister, I was like have you ever eaten donuts from TNT? Because I've never eaten donuts from TNT.
Speaker 2Never.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3It's always pigs in the blanket Pigs in the blanket. So when I played when I was in Midland High, the gym would open at 5 in the morning, so I'd be up at 5. Stop at tnt. Get like five pigs in the blanket and a dr pepper.
Speaker 2That's before I played. This is when I was. This was before kalachi zone, yeah, because now the fucking thing is kalachis, and back then it was just the pig in the blankets. They were this big. Yeah, now they got the fucking kalachi yeah they're huge, yeah and and it's funny because kalachi's like there's a place in, uh, tex, texas that took their recipe straight from Germany, like the people that run it, and I forgot where the fucking place is. It's a hole in the fucking wall.
Speaker 3Texas. It's on there in College Station, yeah, and it's fucking original kolaches, like how they're supposed to be.
Speaker 2We call these fucking things kolaches, but they're not. But they're this big pig in a blanket. They're fucking. Get some of their fucking huge man. And then the dr peppers at tnt were amazing. Oh, dude, any coke at tnt. The only problem was these motherfuckers sold you more ice than fucking drink, right, yeah? And it was like, and I'm thinking I'm thinking.
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Speaker 3I'm thinking now I was like man, I was like 16. I was driving this massive van that my dad had into me, man, and I would drop it to tnt, and I was like, can I get five pigs in the blanket with cheese? And then, can you give me some mustard? And at large like Dr Pepper, yeah, put that down and then played for two hours, showered there. They went to class, then had basketball class, yeah, and then came back and practiced from like four to eight and then, when we weren't in season, we would find other gyms to play.
Speaker 2I played like 8 hours of basketball. I remember you lived that shit yeah, I was like Midland Christian.
Speaker 3I was like Midland Christian's opening up the gym. I was like oh, let's go to Midland Christian or like First Presbyterian Church across the street that had the summer ball, and I was like, and then at the time, like the upperclassmen, like they would call you, and it's before cell phones, and my mom would pick up and be like alguien en ingles esta hablando.
Speaker 3And I'd be like hello, hey, you didn't make it to open gym, what's going on? I was like it's the summer and then one of the summer leagues at Abel, I actually got my lip cut. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember that I got a headbutt. I was going for a ball got headbutt and it was cut and this is a funny story about my dad at the hospital. So it was at abel junior high and the we were having summer league there and it kind of went around.
Speaker 3It was at midland high, first peterian and then that was at abel and I was playing and me and my teammate there was a, a loose ball. We're going to it. My teammate hit me with his head and I was out. Yeah, I was completely out. I woke up, I was bleeding right. The coach took me to Midland Memorial Hospital. He took me to Midland Memorial Hospital and they said, hey, we're going to need stitches. And they already knew me's like oh this is franco's kid.
Speaker 3Yeah, they called my dad and said, hey, your kid's here with like an open wound. He's gonna need about 15 or 20 stitches. Like right here, right, yeah, you can see the white of my teeth, yeah, you can see. And, um, my dad said yes, right, and my mom supposedly is in the background ironing and you know she's. She's like where's alfonso at? And my dad's like, oh, yeah, he's in the emergency room, they're stitching him up. And she's like where's Alfonso at? And my dad's like, oh yeah, he's in the emergency room, they're stitching him up. And she's like what she? My dad didn't even bother to get off the couch. So my mom went and she got there when, like they were finishing me stitching me up, the coach stayed. My mom fell back because the coach stayed with me the whole time. Yeah, and.
Speaker 3I was like, and I was like he stitched me up. And, yeah, my dad's like, yeah, stitch him up, that's fine it's all like hey, man, you coming. Yeah, I never told my they were all like that never told my mom, yeah, it was, it was insane, but it was. It was a wonderful time growing up in midland. It's. It's an amazing place we really like. We made it home.
Speaker 2Huh, made it home, our parents made it home, and then we made it home, yeah, yeah west texas is something else like, like everybody says if you, what is it the?
Speaker 3jay-z song like yeah you can make it in new york. You can make it, no, you can make it west texas. Yeah, because it it just teaches us, I don't know, it just teaches us, like, to be more personable, more like uh, going like southern hospitality and more like we have like this hard work attitude, like my idea, like I would I was talking about wife is like whatever job I apply for, I get I turn them down. Yeah, because it's just like I'm always willing to go above and beyond like a lot of people like they like to go a to b.
Speaker 3I go a, b, c, d, e, f, g yeah, you know it's not. You know a lot of people a, b, and that's because that's my job description. I go above and beyond and I think that's what my parents, our parents, taught us is like that's how they did it. Yeah, that's crazy yeah, like and then like the hustling mentality, like my mom's a hustler oh, your mom's a hustler for sure like they had.
Speaker 3Your mom had a full-time job and she still did stuff on the side. Yeah, and my mom's like sells everything. Yeah, everything you want perfume jewelry, anything yeah, princess house, whatever she sells you. My mom is 78 years old right now. She's still hustling out there oh yeah, 100.
Speaker 2Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't see your mom not making her rounds. Yeah, like the day that that shit happens, like I feel like the world's gonna stop. I don't see, yeah, but man yeah, it's been a fucking great episode. Yeah, we're going on probably two hours at this fucking point.
Speaker 1Man, it's gonna be fucking good and honestly it's like I haven't said much, but it's been really like just it's nice to hear your story, man, and yeah, I can. I can tell that you really miss this town, you love this town, like I mean. It's it's just good to hear, like you know, I was.
Speaker 3We've been unfortunate that we haven't been baited back for a midland lee, midland high game. I want my kids to experience that be like it's insane.
Speaker 2I get teary eyed right now.
Speaker 3I was like I want my kids to experience that like a West Texas football game yeah, friday Night Lights it's different.
Speaker 2As soon as his son got in there I was like fuck, we have to go to that shit. And it hit me and my son finished.
Speaker 1This was last year and that shit hit me harder than graduating. I told my wife. I said I was sad. All weekend I was watching old football games and you know what I mean.
Speaker 3Like it hit me so hard, dude. People don't understand how much we love football.
Speaker 2Oh man, it's fucking. It's in the, it's in the DNA.
Speaker 3Like like my sister was telling she's like, yeah, I was like, oh, they still want to keep the football game. Of course, yeah, and I was like, but it's like, like I told my wife, I was like we have to make time for that middle and high middle elite being with both kids.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3You know, because it's usually like in the middle of like.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Fall, yeah, and like School year and the whole shit. We're big fans so we go to the games and so those are big, like you know. If you guys ever want to come to sec country, you know you got texas now in the sec, you got yeah, but we're sec country.
Speaker 2Texas, bro, let me tell you, texas is gonna make a fucking run, as much as people don't want it. Texas gonna now with nil. It's fucking crazy, dude, nil is crazy. And let me tell you texas tech, now with this fucking nil, change people better, watch fucking texas tech. Now with this fucking nil.
Speaker 3Change people better watch fucking texas tech, because they're gonna start fucking buying these players and I can say that now, this is buying these fucking players and and the thing is like you know, I went to a&m, I went to university of south carolina, yeah, and I always would tell people like a&m had its abundance of money and I don't understand why they're not any good, we are mediocre at like. Last year we we came back for the university of south carolina, uh, a and m game and yeah, they beat south carolina because I was going through a little thing, but we got lenora seller now at south carolina.
Speaker 2Baby, yeah, man, this shit's about to get good. That's the only place in the world that your two-year-old can say go, we're a seller now at South Carolina.
Speaker 3Baby, yeah, man, this shit's about to get good, go cocks this is the only place in the world that your two-year-old can say go cocks my little, my little daughter, my little daughter. First time A&M was in the SEC. Because, yeah, we're.
Speaker 2We're very fortunate now that A&M and South Carolina play each other yeah every, every year yeah, I know, that's like you're fucking I was like oh my god, it's my super bowl yeah and so the first year that a and m went to south carolina, a and m was no.
Speaker 3The second year, the second time they came in, they were very highly touted. Sorry, south carolina was very highly tight. We had steve spurrier, we're a top 10 team and a and m just came and beat us 56 to 7 right, and it was a thursday night game and I usually go divided a and m shirt, south carolina hat, yeah, and people are confused and I was like I live four miles that way.
Speaker 3Yeah, that would be fucking crazy like and so, um, my daughter had a dress, a south carolina dress, with boots on right, and but we also went to some of the a&m tailgates, because a&m brings texas brisket with them. Oh right, man, and in south carolina we don't have. Yeah, when you go to carolina they talk about the barbecue, but it's about pulled pork that's different barbecue.
Speaker 3Yeah so we go to the a&m a&m tailgates, yeah, and people are confused. When my daughter's had the toe like my, my mother-in-law made her a dress and that's where we came with like oh, it's fine to say go cox for your two-year-old here and like it's go cox everywhere, it's normal yeah, go cox, go, go, cox everywhere. Right, and so that game for my, my daughter. I actually got the tickets through A&M because I couldn't get tickets through South Carolina. We were in the A&M section.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And people were screaming at my daughter. That kid is confused, what's wrong with her? And they were like the parents are confused. And then she turns around and she's like quit screaming at my daddy.
Speaker 2Yeah, she was only two at the time. That's normal shit in football, right? We're used to that shit.
Speaker 3Yeah, but we, yeah, we love college ball. Yeah, yeah, we love the Bears.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And hopefully one day they might. We got a Pope from Chicago now maybe a.
Speaker 2Bears Super Bowl. Yeah, man, we're going to have to fuck y'all up this year. Last year was horrible. I don't know if we played yeah, I think it was last year, no, maybe the year before when we played, but anyway, of course, I had to fucking sit through it. I sat through it with Liz and your dad, but this year I'm 100% ready.
Speaker 3Liz and my dad are not that bad. It's my brother, no.
Speaker 2I mean, but this is the thing. You get any of the combination together. That's when it gets fucking good. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3But my brother has this sense of like. Every year he sends me messages and videos that we're winning the Super Bowl. This is it.
Speaker 1Every year he's got the same delusional you know he's got.
Speaker 2You know the sickness.
Speaker 1The sickness that I have with the Raiders. It's not a sickness, it's a dream, bro.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's true, and I see it, and I was like I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I don't see it. I would tell them I was like I don't see it and I'm fortunate enough that I'm not too far from Atlanta and not too far from Charlotte. I'm only 72 miles from Charlotte.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3So every four years I get to Bears, you get to watch them, I get to watch the Bears.
Speaker 2Same thing for me here when they come here, but the problem is it's like every three years and then they switch home field. Oh, so I get to go to a Cowboys game every six fucking years to watch the Raiders play. But, every single time Like it's a fucking main event. When the Raiders and the Cowboys play, it's a fucking main event.
Speaker 3Well, we're trying to go this year on Soldier Field on December 20th.
Speaker 2Hopefully my dad is doing health-wise better, but they're playing the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, he's gonna Right before Christmas.
Speaker 2They're playing their owners.
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Speaker 1You should make it next summer. They might have another Tijano blast over here. Man Jay Pettis and Jimmy G I don't know any of them.
Speaker 3The only ones like Little Joe.
Speaker 2That was the only one I remember. That's the main one that everybody remembers Little Joe's running around. Little Joe and Michael Sagado.
Speaker 1Michael Sagado's still running around.
Speaker 3Little Joe's around.
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, jimmy G's rest in peace, baby, you know what I mean. Rip, brother R RIP, brother RIP. But the, the kings are still running around.
Speaker 3Yeah, like one of the funniest things is like one of my really good friends I met in Iowa. Yeah, and we were, we were at the I wasn't gonna say the best the cafeteria there at school and I see this little Hispanic guy and he had a Stanton Buffalo shirt on and I'm like, are you?
Speaker 2from Stanton.
Speaker 3Texas and he's like yeah, I was like, I'm from Midland and so we like, or buddies like, sore heads. Yeah, yeah, he was a running back on the state championship team there um, and his name is Adrian that was double a ball is that two? A yeah, yeah. So yeah, I met him up there and I was like how did they find you in Stanton?
Speaker 1Yeah, and same thing, like one of the coaches had to see you, somebody you really hate.
Speaker 3Yeah. So he was like yeah, we had a really good connection to West Texas kids in.
Speaker 2Iowa, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3We had a bunch of us like Stanton. They brought in, they took a couple of Midland High basketball players and then I'm sorry middle leaf two of them, and then a bunch of other midland high players.
Speaker 1So it was, it was. It was kind of a little a combo?
Speaker 3yeah, it was, and it was funny. We all ended up marrying somebody from our college oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all I mean.
Speaker 2That's what you're a lot of. What you're doing in college is part of it, yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah that's cool yeah, man. So I guess we're gonna go ahead and, you know, finish the episode on that note. I appreciate everybody listening. This is going to come out Monday, this upcoming.
Speaker 1Monday, I think so it may be. It depends on this weekend we get that episode in before the flight, but it'll be either this week or next week. Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2So whenever it is like man, it's always interesting, it's always a good time sitting with my cousin and fucking having a good time talking. You know, shout out to titan, our other cousin, adrian, who called us. Yeah, and he, he just called me, right, because he has some news for me. But I'll talk to him and maybe, you know, divulge information later on the fucking podcast yeah, for sure he killed it with the fucking hats man.
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