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Patch Boyz Podcast
Words are one thing, Bullets are another | EP. 117
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The Patch Boys reflect on Charlie Kirk's assassination and how it reveals deeper issues about political radicalization in America, examining how words and education can shape young minds for better or worse.
• Candace Owens is investigating Charlie Kirk's death, uncovering inconsistencies in the official narrative
• Discussion about how the assassin was radicalized in college, transitioning from conservative family values to extreme ideologies
• Exploration of the boundary between education and indoctrination in schools
• Personal stories about influential teachers who maintained appropriate boundaries while still connecting with students
• Examination of Charlie Kirk's controversial stance on empathy versus sympathy
• Commitment to putting faith at the forefront while keeping the podcast's overall tone and content
• Support for Hot Shots, a local bar facing challenges from authorities
• Reflection on finding facts for yourself rather than blindly following others' interpretations
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Candace Owens' Investigation of Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 1I know we uh spoke about charlie kirk last time and like, um, a little tidbit, just a little bit of an update.
Speaker 1Since then, there's been plenty of things going on and, uh, mainly, candace owens is on a freaking war path. Um, uh, for those of you who don't know, candace Owens is on a freaking war path. For those of you who don't know Candace Owens. Candace Owens is also a conservative activist and I'll put quotes on that because she was at one point very much aligned with Charlie. And then Candace has kind of gone off a little bit on the gossip column, the rabbit hole, whatever you want to call it, but she still fancies herself a conservative activist and she's been working on Charlie's case like crazy. She's been getting more information, got a new video or pictures video, whatever you want of uh the charlie kirk's uh killer, um at a particular time at some dairy queen, and she's trying to put one and two and three and four together, like she's going full investigative journalist shit on here, um, and maybe seeding a little bit of doubt as to who it was, um that caused this uh travesty, right, um? Uh. She's also mentioned multiple times bb netanyahu and maybe his involvement.
Speaker 1Uh, because charlie was um critical in her words, yeah, but but at some point in her words they were besties, they were tied at the hip, they talked every day and then all of a sudden, they weren't um and netanyahu. When netanyahu came and made his rounds through podcast hell, he even went to, he even did the nelk boys. Yeah, he didn't go on charlie kirk. On the charlie kirk show. Yeah, which was it? I mean, there is eye-opening stuff there. It's not like she's just grasping shit out of thin air and just saying shit or whatever. She has stuff to back it up, but um, it's it's getting dicey, man.
Speaker 2Well, you know, even the, even the. Uh, I saw like a clip today. Actually she put out and it was. It was like one of the guys that worked for TPA USA. He had like a camera. He took down and took out the SD card. I saw that and that was weird, very weird. I think she said she saw the footage or she's waiting on it, I can't remember, I just barely saw it. But that was awkward too.
Speaker 1Then you know, even with the guy that we mentioned last, time.
Speaker 2Apparently he's like a decoy, right, yeah. And then he got charged. Yeah, he got child pornography, yeah, but he was also like a like a weird decoy really. I mean, that's what they're saying, right, that too, but it's weird. But then he was like involved with the uh 9-11 thing, the he even called in uh. One of the said there was gonna be a bomb threat or something for the boston marathon.
Speaker 1So it's like a lot of weird, it's so difficult for the public to, to be able to tie that together. I know the people that are like getting receiving this information, like candace owens. Yeah, it feels more if it feels more real to them and to me. I'm listening to the stuff and I'm like shit man, I, I, yeah, I see the stuff like the picture at dairy queen and piecing together the timeline for uh wearing three different outfits yeah, yeah, that was wild, it's, it's crazy man and I know in there he's like I had to change.
Speaker 1But she was like is it more plausible that he changed his entire outfit, which went from shorts to jeans, yeah, or is it plausible that he had jeans and jeans?
Speaker 1like it's just she's piecing together so much shit, um, who knows what's gonna come from it. I have no what's going to come from it. I have no idea what's going to come from it. All I know is I think all of us are hungry for justice and we want to see it happen and the proper justice. If there are levels to this shit of culpability right, yeah, to where someone paid for it or someone facilitated it, or a group was behind it and helped plan it, or all that whole group of people should get fucked oh yeah, that's just just how I feel it's a wild thing.
Radicalization and Political Assassinations
Speaker 2I mean, even the but you know it's even weird is like how they're trying to play him off as a manga guy and you're like like this dude literally wasn't not even like he's, like you know, like his parents, probably where his family was, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1Listen. Listen, I grew up my entire life a liberal. Yeah, not a liberal by my own choice or design or or by my own knowledge or thoughts. No, I have a family who was democrat. Their entire life still is, and they believe the Democrats. And then what happened? I came up and I started voting and I voted Democrat and I was very upset at what happened through those years.
Speaker 1Then Trump comes around. Stuff starts to happen. That I like in the first term, I vote for him. In the second term, for this administration. Right, I voted for this administration and it's just slowly been something that happened, but it's the same thing for him. His family grew up Republicans. They were conservative and he was, by through his family, conservative.
Speaker 1Then he went to college, talked to a few fucking nut jobs and all of a sudden became, uh, leftist and the. The problem is that the problem isn't changing your mind. Everyone's free to do that. Everyone's free to pick a side. Change your mind, do what you want, right? The problem is not that. The problem is that he wasn't just turned to being a Democrat, he was radicalized. That's the fucking problem.
Speaker 1When people start spewing out words and those words help to radicalize young people who are very impressionable. It doesn't matter the age, right, they're going to college. They're going to college for a reason. And also, when you go to college, you hold your professors, you hold your dean, you hold your advisors, you hold them at a high level. Like, the shit that they're saying is that's what teachers and professors and all that shit don't understand. Some of them do because they wield their power very strongly. Yeah, others may just be making comments and don't realize the fucking effect you can have on a developing adult's life right, young adult's life.
Speaker 1And uh, that's what happened to that kid man. He really, really believed that the stuff that was coming out of and and a lot of people that are against charlie believe he was spewing hate. Yeah, but I've watched so many fucking videos and there's zero hate behind it. And actually, opposite, he received so much hate right off the bat. Any human being he had so much restraint, any human being me, ricky, anybody else. I'm sitting here and I give somebody the opportunity to speak to me and the first thing they say is you're a piece of shit, fascist. How the fuck do you think I'm going to react?
Speaker 2yeah, how do you?
Speaker 1how do you think I'm going to react me myself? I'm going to react adversely and I'm going to tell them to shove it up their ass. Yeah, charlie never responded that way. However, he did respond with a shitty grin on his face and stuff like that, and it really bothered the people that were trying to debate and they were so serious and angry and he would smile and tell them god bless you. You're resorting to insults because you're not smarter than me and you can't debate me. And those were the things that he said. And if you say that that's hate, you're fucking. You have not experienced real fucking hate.
Speaker 2Let me tell you and it's crazy. I mean, uh, he did. I mean you, I watched. You know, I've always watched him before. That's one thing about him. He always kept and I said it like on the last row he just kept his composure and that was his superpower.
Speaker 2Yeah, bro, that goes crazy, you know, and like for them to say that's hate, like you can't find nothing hateful this guy's saying and those remarks they said, like he said about, uh I don't know, black women or something. They pull that out of context like crazy dude. Tiny little clip, yeah, and it's all like on DEI really, and it's not even to that specific wording that they say it's just crazy, man, if you go and look.
Educators Overstepping Boundaries
Speaker 1All he was a proponent of is don't let the color of your skin, your background, your sexual orientation anything hold you back from doing what you should be doing. Hold you back from doing what you should be doing. Hold you back from bringing being the best you. If you concentrate on those things, you yourself are holding yourself back. That's what he said.
Speaker 1That was the message, yeah and it's not verbatim right, but you can go look at the clip um and it's similar right, uh, but no, it's crazy yeah, it is, and like I think, like I think they did a vote the other day and that was.
Speaker 2That was like I don't want to honor this guy because you know he spewed hate. I'm like what was he? He's all facts and just because, and like that's. The thing too is like they get confused with biblical, like verses being hate. It's not hate, that's just, that's hateful. Well, no, that's just the truth, bro, it's our belief. Yeah, and if you don't like it, I'm sorry, but that's just it. Like there's preachers that preach love and like kind and they don't want to hurt your feelings, but there's preachers that preach straight out of the Bible, that's it and if you feel, convicted.
Speaker 2That's because I was taught. Yeah, bro, and it's like they try to say, oh, it's hate, no, it's really, it's just all love. And at the end of the day, it is love, because all those things are hurtful to you and to other people. And look at our society in some ways, how ugly it's gotten when it comes that way.
Speaker 1And don't get me wrong. I'm not telling you be like us and like Charlie Kirk or what he says, or whatever. You have your own beliefs, have your own thoughts, but nobody should be okay with somebody getting assassinated like that. No, nobody, it's it's. It's evil, it's straight evil. And when murder becomes okay, that's when things get really really bad. Yeah, and it's not okay, it's okay words. Words are one thing, bullets are another.
Speaker 2Yeah and educators too. I mean for educators to uh like kind of be okay with that, that's not a problem. That's a problem, bro, like it's a big problem. Yeah, you can't have that. Like you know, I I saw somebody right the other day I missed the good old days when I didn't even know my teacher's politics and honestly, it's true, I, I don't know. You know, I've had teachers all through school.
Speaker 2I didn't know anybody's politics once you know, it was always just facts and what was going on to the book and whatever. But like I just can't believe that that is a thing nowadays, you know, I'm saying like, uh, people, and then to be okay with murder?
Speaker 1it's not okay, yeah it's crazy and we're gonna segue right into another. The next thing that I want to talk to talk about because it's a hot point right now jimmy camo. This whole shit has been blown up way out of fucking proportion. They're taking jimmy kimmel and putting them on fucking flags and acting like oh, the fucking first amendment, free speech, and fucking all this shit that has nothing to do with free speech.
Speaker 1That son of a bitch said what he wanted to say. He exercises right to free speech and his employer exercised their fucking right to willful employment period. Yeah, there's no if, if, if, ands or buts about it. If you like jimmy kimmel, fantastic, I like jimmy kimmel, the man, the man, show jimmy kimmel, the funny, fucking jimmy kimmel, not this piece of shit. And now let me let me say this. Let me say this he believes and I'm okay with him having his beliefs. He believes he's doing the right thing because of his son, son, whatever, because of his child. He believes he's doing the right thing because of his child and more power to him. He can speak and say whatever the fuck he wants, but also ABC can fire his ass because he is not shit anymore. He is not doing, he's not making the ratings he's supposed to be making. If he wants to be a political activist, have at it, fucker, but abc is gonna fire you yeah, simple as that that's the thing.
Speaker 2It's like you can say what you want, but it doesn't mean your company has to like it. Exactly that's how it is. Like it's just us, when we go out to jobs, I can't like, oh you know, sell this shit, and like, hey, my company tells me, like no, we don't like that. We, you know, we don't want you to do that, we don't want you to wear this or that. You can't. That's just the rules. And if you, they don't, if you don't like it, then you have to go somewhere else. Or yeah, and a lot of times, everywhere you go in the workplace, there's no politics. They don't want politics. Exactly none of that, because it causes, uh, like you know, some kind of division. And, yeah, you can get along with them, but it's just like you know, that guy thinks this way and it's weird man, you know?
Speaker 1Yeah, for sure it really is.
Speaker 2But I mean, that's the thing it's like people get confused with oh it's different, yeah it is. You can say whatever you want, do whatever you want, bro, I don't care, but don't have no right for that, and that's where you have to hold these people accountable. On that, man.
Memories of Influential Teachers and Coaches
Speaker 1I feel that way you don't say yeah, stay in line, man, color in color, within the fucking lines, and your lines are education yeah reading, writing, arithmetic, motherfuckers, whatever. Stick in your lines, bro, do not color outside the lines. Where is my domain straight up? Yeah, that's all we want, man and I and my. I have plenty of educators in my family and I'm telling you like most of them agree with it. They agree that people should not be jumping into kids lives unless life and death hurts.
Speaker 1Take for example my sister is a counselor. My sister is a counselor and if it, when it comes to actual life threatening stuff or a child is in danger or stuff like that, her job is to step in. That's why they have their job and teachers have their job. Yeah, teachers teach step in. That's why they have their job and teachers have their job. Yeah, teachers teach. If there's something going on at home or something that needs to be looked out for, they call the counselor, they call my sister and she can talk to the child, she can figure that stuff out, and then you move forward within the within the law, within the law right yeah, just like it used to be, bro.
Speaker 2Yes, like if my kids uh, don't try to make my kid into a furry where he's shitting in a damn. Uh, you know what I mean. Like those little box yeah. So it's like you know, like there's like steps and that's real shit.
Speaker 1He's not lying, no, that's real, that's, it's documented.
Speaker 2They want to transgender them, or they want to give them clothes that you don't know about like that stuff is where it gets crazy and, but yeah, you you're right, though, like the student, maybe he's getting, you know, having a good home life and it's not, you know, healthy for him or safe, like that's different. I think people just use their best judgment, but you know, it's just. It's like a weird line. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1It's like dang dude.
Speaker 2Just because my dad doesn't agree with me wanting to be a cat, bad man like that.
Speaker 1You know, the father is just yeah just a lot of weird stuff, I think but you're right, education, education, education, not indoctrination, exactly okay, I love education, not indoctrination, please yeah, like that's that's, that's what we believe, and and that's what it is. Maybe there's some parents out there that believe yeah, you know what, I, I'm not a good parent. I'm gonna let the teachers parent my children. If.
Speaker 2If that's how you believe, then that's, that's on you, that's probably on you kids that are acting out too like you know what I mean, like it's just like you know I try to keep up with the kids in some way, at least the teachers. Like hey, what'd your teacher say about that? They say anything like I'm over here, like I want to know, you know 100 yeah, and don't get wrong. I'm not like the like the best, that guy that's like what's your homework? You got to school. You know what I?
Speaker 2mean like no, I'm not that guy. You really that's Courtney's kind of job, but I do try to kind of keep an eye on the big things. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, no, no, eric, always.
Speaker 1Eric always tell me hey, this happened in school today. And then I'll ask with my kids I'm a little bit more, I'm a little bit too rough of a speaker to if it's a delicate subject or something happened or something of that nature. I typically let my wife handle that. But if my wife feels that I need to have a conversation with my daughter, then I do. And when she tells me she already knows, she knows how I'm going to react, she knows what I'm going to say. We're pretty in tune that way.
Speaker 1So if it's something that needs my brand of parenting, she 100% just leaves it up to me and we have that trust in each other. If it needs her brand of parenting a little bit cuddly and softer and whatever mom-style parenting, then I leave it up to her and I think it's a very good balance and we don't need a third. We don't need a third. Yeah, yeah, we're, we're cool, we're cool, we, we can parent and education, no problem. I'm not an educator. I and I do hold educators at a very high standard. I do hold them on a pedestal because I know so many of them and I know so many of them and I know so many of them do a great job, you know and it's a hard job yeah, it's a very hard job and so many of them do do a great job.
Speaker 1There is that one percent that wants to fuck it up for the rest of them and uh and that's and everything, and have them get of a bad it is and have them get a bad rap, and I don't think they should. Teachers, I mean, it's a very thankless job, to be honest, uh, being a teacher, um, but you know, the patch boys are thinking you guys, the teachers that teach and are very, uh, direct and educating, and they, like I said, they color within the lines. Man, we appreciate, we love you guys thank you so much.
Speaker 2It's a hard job. I mean, you see, you know, I remember uh, you know, uh, danielle's mom was an educator for years and she would tell us, like you know, having to deal with the kids and I mean that you think about that, like they, they got enough going on, they got their own life, bro, and they got to come to school and they got to go to work and they got to deal with other kids. It's like that's got to be hard, man, especially if they're rude and ugly. You know what I'm saying which actually goes into parents.
Speaker 2Yeah, parents, parent your children, for sure, man even my mom. She's a homeowner and she's like, these kids are rough and I'm like, I'm like, I can only imagine, I can only imagine and, like you know, last night I was at the game. I was at the football game last night homecoming game and, uh, they won. It was, which is a good game yeah, man, the rebels go baby finally got our first one.
Speaker 2It was good, beautiful, but uh, you know, uh, the teachers. I was sitting by kind of like the student section and and I was like man, these teachers come here on their like Friday night and they watch these kids. I'm like dang, that's a lot, you know, like people, you know that's Monday through Friday. These guys are there and that's it. They're coaching, they're doing other things, like you know. So I really I do appreciate a teacher and what they do and how they educate, because there's some teachers that I still you know. I can't remember his name, but he's an older black man, big guy, and he taught psychology at Lehigh and I see him walk. I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2He still walks bro, oh yeah, every morning, yeah, and I always want to go up to him and see him and I always want to tell him like dude, your class really sunk in for some reason, like I remember a lot, yeah, when it got into misbehaving he was like yo, he was Done, yeah, but he wasn't that rigid angry, no, no, he just knew where the line was and it happened to me shit.
Speaker 1If I crossed the line, hey, get out of the class.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And straight up and I thought we had a good relationship to the point where it hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2I. I thought we had a good relationship to the point where it hurt my feelings. I'm like, oh shit, man, I need to chill Because you were always good.
Speaker 1I was a class clown.
Speaker 2But you're good at like maneuvering it to where they laugh with you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, but I crossed the line a couple of times. I did.
Speaker 1And he was one of them. But I remember he was like, hey, man, you can't do that the end of the class and he told me what I can't, what I can't do and why he did it. And that was it. And it was very much why? Because I was fucking with other kids education. He was, he was trying to be serious and I was trying to be a fucking jokester and uh, he, he nipped it and we never had a problem after that. You know, I'm saying like a bunch of teachers stick out in my mind, uh, um and and uh, it may be maybe their names, not anymore mr chavez.
Speaker 2Of course I was gonna say that mr chavez was always he was a math teacher and uh, he stuck to that I was mr cortez cortez chavez, yes, cortez now you sure I think so okay, we're gonna say it's cortez we love mr cortez because, uh, because he did let us be kids.
Speaker 1We were still kids, man, he did let us be kids, but he taught us too, and if same thing, if you got, if you crossed the line, he boot you the shit out of his class, and that's what it was. He was there to do a job and he took it seriously, but he was still a leeway for us to be kids. We weren't there just like look at your fucking paper. Only Good teachers have a good balance, man.
Speaker 2Yeah, they do. And we remember a lot of them. He was strict, but he was cool. You know what I'm saying. You knew you couldn't get too far away. Yeah, yeah, you know who I always liked was Coach Hero, I know get too far away.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, you know how he's liked was mr coach hero. I know he liked you. He was one of my favorite alamo, alamo football coach I don't know what, my favorite people calves the size of the size of my head. Yeah, uh, played for the minnesota vikings.
Speaker 2He played for the vikings. Yeah, man, I wish I could find that guy. Like I've tried to look for him, but I I don't know. It was a while back, you know I'm saying, but like I don't even know his first name, he had a little car.
Speaker 1Coach Hero was a huge man. He had a tiny little car man. He was just a really cool dude, massive beard, and he was a really cool dude and he was a really good coach and him Coach Wolf. Coaches are so important, man. They really do build structure, man.
Speaker 2I think coach wolf works. Uh. Last time I was on planes for the I don't know if it's planes, but he works for like a pipeline company and then like, uh, what was that one coach? He was your coach in the maroon eighth grade and he had the blue eyes and shit oh uh, I'm just telling you the eyes because I remember like that was his day everybody greenish blue eyes.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was like I forgot what his name was. Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 2Uh, he was the 18 coach um, right under coach taylor right under coach taylor, but man I can't remember, but you know I broke my heart when I saw that man wearing the permian colors of that? Yeah, I sent y'all a photo, yeah I was like this is remember him, bro. And I was like, damn, I can't believe this guy jumped ship baby it's a guy you can't forget, man, and I remember.
Speaker 1I remember mr ringale man. Mr ringale sticks out to me.
Speaker 1He was the he's the vice principal at uh alamo damn I can't remember and I remember it was funny because, like he was very involved as a, as a vice principal, he was very involved. I remember getting hurt. We didn't have a trainer, we didn't have a trainer. I hurt my back I believe it was my back or whatever. Uh, um, and we didn't have a trainer, we didn't have a trainer. I hurt my back, I believe it was my back or whatever. Uh, and we didn't have a trainer. No, I, it wasn't my back, it wasn't my back, because I remember he had me doing like 200 sit-ups every session and uh, it was funny because he, the, the trainer, would be busy. We only had one trainer between us and freshmen and so he would be at freshmen doing whatever he's doing.
Speaker 1Doc, you remember doc, oh yeah, doc. So doc would be at freshman doing whatever he's doing. Doc, you remember doc, oh yeah, doc. So doc would be at freshman doing whatever he's doing and we didn't have a trainer. So he's like man, I'll do it. So if it was, it was like one or two of us. He'd take us literally in his office and he's working or whatever, and we're in the, the administrative office right, of course, they're all working or whatever, and he's like all right, 200 sit-ups because we couldn't practice yeah 200 sit-ups.
Speaker 1We just be in there doing sit-ups and you're like, all right, man, come on he. He was really into the athletic department, right he? He was a former football player himself and everything. So he was like, yeah, man, you got to build up the core. And he would tell us like, yeah, I get it man more, get off and this, that and the other, but he sticks out in mine too. And uh, yeah, man, a lot of educators they stick with you. Man, look how old we are, man, we remember the, these events, these things. So I mean to any of the educators out there, like, just remember the stuff that you say sticks with people. And uh, do you really want it to be politics?
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I mean, yeah, you're right, we, we have good experience. I think we kind of touched on both, which is good because yeah, yeah, it is wild, like I mean, there's both sides of the coin. You think about it, man like, even aiden with his coaches. He still has a special connection with them. You know what I mean like, and I get it because that's some hard times you're putting in it is man.
Speaker 2You know it is and he's the guy whispering in your ear get out, man, do it. You know what I mean. I'm like you know I did. I can't remember what that one coach was. He was like a smaller guy and he was kind of upset that I quit football junior. But I was like bro, look at me, bro, like I can't compete with these guys. I I know you're trying to give me some hope, baby, but I can't do this because he was a small guy yeah um talking about?
Speaker 1yes, I know he had the python, remember he used to always walk around with his python in class. He was a science teacher, and you know what? I actually have a story about him too. When we were in ninth grade, I had mad troubles with the boxes, you remember?
Speaker 1we had to go from flat to jump on top of the boxes and everybody knows I'm about 300 pounds. Back then I was pretty fucking close. I was a big fucking dude. Um, I just carried a lot more muscle at that time. Um, but I remember having massive troubles in off season trying to get on these boxes. I would tear up my fucking shins.
Speaker 2I did that once.
Speaker 1I was yeah, I would tear up my shins on these boxes, but they were building me to be more athletic because they had plans. Obviously they wanted me to play tackle. Anyway, he is the one who finally got me to do it. I remember him pulling me aside and he was like hey, man, the only reason you're missing this shit is because you're scared. He's like you're scared, you're gonna fucking fall on your face. You're gonna fall whatever, hurt yourself. This and the other. He said that's not, that's not high enough for you to hurt yourself. Just fucking do it.
Speaker 1And he was real clear with me, like just fucking do it, man, do it right now and he held up the line and he put me up against and he's like just fucking go for it, don't think about it, just go, just go for it. And ever since that day I was able to do it. No fucking problem, he pushed me. He pushed me far enough to do it. He wasn't fucking angry, he didn't hurt my feelings, he was strict, direct. He got tired of seeing me not reaching my potential, because, I mean, that off-season workout was a motherfucker you remember when we first started it, people were fucking puking hands bleeding and peeling.
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Speaker 1No, it's still. It's pretty tough. Yeah, is it all right?
Speaker 2yeah, but it was tough for us bro yeah I was a damn orangutan by the time we got done on the monkey bars bro you, can you imagine I wasn't.
Speaker 1I'm not too far off from what I was back then size wise, weight I was. I was lighter, for sure. Um, but could you imagine my ass fucking going across monkey bars like in split seconds? Yeah, that's, that's literally what they got us doing being comfortable in a bear crawl at this fucking size? Can you imagine that shit? Because that's what it was. When we did mats At that point at the end of offseason I was, oh, mats, whatever, it was fucking. We were comfortable fucking doing front rolls and turning back.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, In ninth grade we did in the grass. We didn't even have mats.
Jimmy Kimmel and Freedom of Speech
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we did in the grass, bro, and we pulled Big Bertha oh, grass, we didn't even have.
Speaker 2oh yeah, we didn't need grass, bro, it was big bertha.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, because I remember I started off in that donut. Yeah, I don't play that shit.
Speaker 2Well, you know that big bertha took me all year baby, but I got it at the end but that was my favorite shit.
Speaker 1I was top. I was always in the top two, three motherfuckers and I always got the heaviest tire, the tire pull man. That was my favorite shit. I was good at that shit and flipping that motherfucker pulling it, yeah, you name it. I loved it. That was the stuff that I like now. Monkey bars not too much because it's fucking hard on your boy's hands.
Speaker 2But you know I look at kids to do it for sure. I look at kids now like and uh, and I'll tell my kids like, nah, that kid ain't gonna make it past coach smith coach smith, yeah, I seen him not too long ago. It's been a. I don't know if he still teaches here, but I remember seeing him on the field and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1I remember, you remember, when we were late on the bus, that one time on purpose. Oh yeah, None of us felt like fucking doing the fucking two-a-days I don't know if it was two-a-days or what the fuck it was. We were running practices at Lee already, so we had to be on a bus run to practice at Lee because they were instituting a new offense and defense, because they changed from Parchman to oh, quisenberry, quisenberry, yeah, fucker.
Speaker 1Anyway. So we would have to bus over to Lee and me, ricky and Fabian just got it into our minds. They were like fuck this, maybe they'll leave without us. So we started just walking slowly and sure enough, we're late, but they still fucking catch us. So we end up going anyway. We get back and I remember Coach Smith. I went to class and he was like hey man, what the fuck are you doing? I was like no, and we felt bad. We felt really bad. We were like like no, and we felt bad. Yeah, like we felt really bad. We were like fuck, no, we can't miss again. Like we can't be late again.
Speaker 1Yeah, so after that we were chopping to the bus and going to practice and shit, and he was one of those guys like you need people like that to keep you like hey man, to make you feel bad about what you did, because they're like, hey man, what the fuck are you doing? You committed to this, just fucking commit, do it. And yeah, he was right. He was right, he was a really good dude. Coach Smith Shout out to him.
Speaker 2Man, we had a teacher that was a Spanish teacher and I did a horrible one I don't know if I said this before Me and Matt Garrett, we over there rode all these damn that boy, matt Garrett, 100 reasons why I love cat and she passed me. Yeah, I couldn't even finish the spanish side, but I turned it over. I wrote 100 reasons. She was like and she just passes, bro, to see I was like I'm so happy.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, I mean teach, I mean it took time and you had to come up with 100 reasons, like I was a good kid in class. Yeah, man, it's it's. We did our best right, and I'm sure a lot of these kids do their best and you know one thing I never lied.
Speaker 2I never could understand, you know. I think that's just because the way they come from home. But, like you know, some of those kids are just ugly to teachers, like they're ugly bro they are man and it's like they got a chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 2That no respect. And I remember thinking, parents, I could never act that way like yeah, and then like even with my kids, now like we make sure, like one thing, my daughter once gave the principal attitude and he called my wife about it and we got on her. My wife actually got on her really good, you know what I mean. But it's just like we don't tolerate that, bro, like you can't be acting rude to teachers and people period.
Speaker 1We shouldn't tolerate it, man, Because at that time, if you teach your children to have a problem with authority, what are you really teaching them?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1It's going to be to their teachers. It's going to be to their coaches first, then it's going to bleed into the household and it's also going to bleed out into the streets. These problems that people are having with police officers, they stem from that. Disrespect begets disrespect, and I'm not saying, like I said, there's always that fucking one percent, there's these one percent of these cops that are pieces of shit, no doubt about it, that try to wield their power in the wrong way. But you can kind of keep yourself out of their crosshairs by showing the normal respect, the normal respect that you should be getting taught early in life Respect your elders, respect authority figures, don't be dumb, don't be a sheep, and and if an authority figure tells you, hey, uh, go fucking beat this guy up or fucking do something, you're not no have a moral compass.
Speaker 1That's why and I'll go back to charlie kirk that's why charlie kirk said god first, so that you have a proper moral compass, and then respect for others Right and then respect for other figures or whatever. But God always comes first, because that moral compass is what's going to guide you through life, even if somebody that you respect or something is doing something they're not supposed to. You know your morality tells you it's not right oh yeah.
Speaker 2And then, like, that's why. And you look at history, you look at a like a soviet union. You look at cuba, you look at a, you know even uh, the nazis right in a way, but the soviet union for sure, they burned, they killed the priests, they burned the churches, they took uh burned uh portraits of jesus christ. Why? Because they, they didn't want god over government, they wanted their government first and that was it. So that was reason why I think even in some places ukraine is doing that, bro, like so it's just like these government, they know the power of god and what he brings out to you and what he also calls out. And then it's like you know, and then these people are not scared teachings, man, you know, people don't get scared, like if you have a lot of faith in God and stuff. And hey, man, you know it's all right, because this is just one stop.
Speaker 1I got somewhere else, bro. I got eternity waiting on me. You know what?
Speaker 2I'm saying, If you're right with God, right, but it's just like I don't know. It's wild.
Speaker 1You see it in history how they did that, man and you see it now you, if you don't, if you forget it, you're doing, to repeat it, bro, 100 and that's why I always that's why I always loved that bro like you said, we're in the 70s again yeah, dude, yeah, these fucking political assassinations and stuff like that, like trying to eliminate, trying to eliminate the competition that way, like it's crazy man. Yeah, fucking, it's wild dude, it is.
Speaker 2I mean, and you're right, I mean it's, it's just, uh, it's a wild scene, hopefully, and it's like one of the things where you're like watching, like where's it going? Like yeah, where, where is it tilting, is it?
Speaker 1you know, I'm saying and but I do, like the, I do appreciate the reaction of most the country. A lot of people were very respectful, whether they, whether they believed in charlie kirk or not, they were very respectful. So I do, I I will say that a lot of people, that some people you didn't expect it from you know what I'm saying like some are bleeding heart liberals and they still had the respect that they were supposed to have. Many people, some didn't. They still found their way to get their little two cents and their little political fucking message through it. Um, and that's not what it was about.
Faith, Morality and Biblical Wisdom
Speaker 1It's very much become political from both sides, but for me, for me, it's just about a good human being lost his life and we should be able to grieve without this political bullshit straight up. And yeah, and grieving doesn't mean I have to fucking fall on my hands and knees and cry for charlie, no, but, um, I can. I can think about the message that he said, that that he was putting out, and, uh, and have my time with that. You know what I'm saying. Like, uh, like, talk about what he did for me personally, about my, my political views, my religious views, the positive stuff that he did, did, um, and that should be okay for everybody to talk about and do um and not be politicized no, that's the way that I feel, for sure, man.
Speaker 2I mean that's, that's that's exactly how we should look at it, you know. But you know, I don't know. It's just a, it's a wild. It's a wild week, uh, you know, I keep up with a lot of it too, you know. But I mean, I think that day was like straight up, like man, this is crazy, you know, I'm saying. And the day was very power it was.
Speaker 1It was very. It was a very powerful day. Emotional day, yeah, it was sure it emotional in every way either. It got angry, you got, sad, you got something man did.
Speaker 2You see it in his wife's uh video was really good, like it was strong and and she sent a strong message and you can't that man's got a movement moving right now behind him.
Speaker 1Like you see that my wife's video was really good, Like it was strong she sent a strong message and you can't.
Speaker 2That man's got a movement moving right now behind him. You see that march in Europe it was like over a million people, bro, they got.
Speaker 1I think the number was 54,000 new requests or requests for new chapters at different colleges and universities. Oh yeah, 54,000.
Speaker 2And then on top of that, like there's like a lot of people like saying I just finally opened up a book, I'll finally open up that bible, because I saw this man with his faith and how he stood for it and how he lived by it, like I mean, like, as far as we know, he lived by it, bro. Like you know, he did everything, he preached, in other words, and everybody has their own battle.
Speaker 2So don't think that you don't like you're always gonna fall, but it depends if you're gonna put it back in god. You're gonna turn back, you're gonna repent, but, like you know, it's just like he did that man. So it's like it's crazy to see, like how people are really like he's pushing people to god, in other words right, so I think that's awesome, bro, like his, his, his death didn't go, like you know, uh, for nothing in vain. It was not in vain. Yeah, that's a good way to say it, bro.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, so yeah, I know we got into the politics thing and we talked about all this stuff today. I thought it was important, especially with the climate in the country today, to talk about that stuff and just know, like, this is our opinion and this is what we think. I know everybody else probably has a different opinion and you guys are entitled to that. Just don't be. You know, we just preach the don't be hateful part. Man, don't be hateful, like, just because you're liberal doesn't mean I hate you. Or just because you have a different religion doesn't mean I hate you, man and I there's, there's such a thing as humanity, a thing as humanity and that's number one, man, because if you're a christian, you believe, um, everyone's made in god's image and we're all his children, and why would we want anything bad to happen to any of you guys? No, we don't, and uh, so that's just be. Just be a human man, humanity. You know, have a little bit of uh, uh, sympathy, I won't say empathy. People made a big deal about that yeah, about the whole.
Speaker 1Uh, I don't believe in empathy, empathy thing. But you got to go further in what he said. He said he believes in sympathy. It's a much. It's a much, uh, more godlike emotion, um, um but you can look back.
Speaker 2Yeah, I haven't seen that part. I had to check that out, man.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, he he, they, everybody was so upset that he said he doesn't believe in empathy. Um uh, but he said, he said, he said multiple, he said multiple times that sympathy that we, we should sympathize with each other, um, and I'll have to look it up, maybe we could put it out there or whatever. Um, I think it was just a uh uh voice recording, a podcast that I heard. It wasn't on video, so we'll have to look into that or whatever, but people made a big deal about that, so I'm curious on myself.
Speaker 2The primary difference in empathy is understanding and sharing another person's feelings, while sympathy is feeling, concern or sorrow for someone's misfortune or for emotional distance, correct? So you don't?
Speaker 1have to put yourself in that empathy is very simple, right, people that empathize with someone put themselves in their shoes. But we're we're all different, like right so, but we're all human. So sympathize with the human for something they're, something they're going through, is okay. Um, I think people took the fact that he didn't believe in empathy as something hateful.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's crazy, you can interpret everything as hateful man, if you wanted to, but I think and I'm not saying that I don't believe in empathy. I'm just simply saying just listen to what the words are. It's actually not something hateful. It's something he's trying to put logic to it and also his humanity to it. Right, I sympathize for somebody who has an issue or something like that, but I can't put myself in your shoes.
Speaker 2It's actually feeling for someone versus feeling that emotion. Yeah, I got it right here, okay. So, uh, it's either filling with someone walking in the shoes, where sympathy is more feeling for them, yeah, so instead of filling with them, you're filling for them. Okay, I got you now. Yeah, and so that that whole little debate and charlie.
Speaker 1It's a very clear message because they're using all over the place. Charlie said he didn't believe in empathy. Later on I think he expanded um, and I I'd have to go look for it. Where I heard it. I'd have to look for it, uh, but it was audio of him talking about that situation because people didn't like it.
Speaker 2Oh, I got direct quote. Apparently sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you're actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel what another person feels exactly. Damn, that's true, and I think I think he even mentioned that. I love that quote, yeah that's a way that's a good quote, I mean, and honestly, I never even thought of it.
Speaker 1I understand. I understood what he was trying to say by saying he didn't believe in empathy. Um and uh, people are taking that and using it as something very hateful. But man, he, it's, it's crazy. You don't have to believe that exactly, but the guy's telling you why he believes in sympathy rather than empathy yeah, I think empathy is a made-up new age term that does a lot of damage. You see, and they, you, they're using just that because it's on video yeah and so they're using just that as a hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 2But nah there's nothing hateful about that. That's the thing. Just because you don't like the way he said it, you can't call it hate, bro.
Speaker 1That's where it comes in right.
Speaker 2Hey, that's a good thing. I never even heard of that, but I mean, I never even thought of the two words. In other words, and honestly, I didn't know.
Speaker 1I ain't going to lie to you guys behind all the meanings and and I did the same thing when I first got into it, like why? I mean I had an idea of of being in, uh, of having empathy for somebody, but I did the same thing. I I saw the difference and then I I went and I listened to more stuff because a you know, when you're looking at videos, it'll give you the you know the next.
Speaker 1Thing right, and so I listened to his his next quote, which is the quote that you just read yeah uh, of him explaining why he doesn't get like empathy, because the first one was only him telling him I don't believe in empathy. I think empathy is whatever you know you read the quote? Yeah, um, but he got a chance to explain himself and that's the beauty, right, and it makes sense, yeah it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2I never even thought of it like that, bro. But that's, that's a good saying, you know. It makes you think. That's why I like stuff like that, man. It's just like you know. There's nothing wrong with thinking like yeah, yeah and do your own research, bro. Like I don't know how many times I've told people that like you got, like I'll hear something. I don't go to fox news, just to not hell. No, I don't even like fox news bro outlets.
Speaker 2I go to small independent journalists, I look at Google and even though Google is not the best, but I try to go straight to facts, especially when it comes to descriptions or the actual word in the dictionary. You always want to know that because the word can be twisted, just like the Bible. The Bible can be twisted too in a lot of ways. You can hear a small verse and they can use it for something else, but when you really read it, it means a whole, nother thing.
Speaker 2It's crazy, bro, and that's why they say get in your word, because then you can have discernment to what is right and what's wrong and people who are trying to like steer you with certain things you're like I don't sound right and do it for yourself.
Speaker 1Do it for yourself.
Speaker 2So like, if somebody tells me something, all right, let me check it out, I'll look, know what it means and what they're saying, because they can go a lot of ways. Absolutely yeah, and and you know, and they could they get.
Speaker 2They get god's love confused a lot too. But you know god loves you, but you also have to have. And I never knew what that word meant. When they said are you a god-fearing man, I never understood, like, and I would get mad, like why would they want you to fear god? And I was like. But then I started really getting. I realized, oh, I know, because you't. Why would I want to? I fear God so much that I don't want to upset him to where. I don't want to go to hell. Bro. Yeah, and that's a God-fearing man. You ain't trying to sin, you're trying to do the right thing and that's what.
Speaker 2That's what got me like but for a long time, bro. So I remember I saw it and I was like, why would you want to fear?
Speaker 2strict man like he's, absolutely like a fatherly love where he wants you right, like that's what it is exactly and people get confused with that right, and I watch a lot of these. Uh, I watch a lot of like youtube videos where these people go to these churches where they they try to you know preach that, but they, whenever they ask them, like certain things, they don't know it, bro, they don't know the bible won't be. And you're like, damn you. Just and honestly, I feel bad for those people because they're leading a lot of people astray and when you go in front of God, they're going to pay for it bro.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's crazy because they can definitely weaponize the Bible.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1People do it. People do it, man. That's what it is. A lot of people can. If someone is just learning and trying to and is not a free thinker, they're trying to follow. You know what I'm saying? That's why churches are very powerful. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. Religion has its, has its things right and anything can, anything, especially that uh can be weaponized man. So, just like ricky said, you know, have thoughts for yourself, do your own research, do your own reading and think about it in your way, and and uh, man, yeah, it's free thinkers, man, free thinkers and thinkers.
Speaker 1And that's cool, man. Find fact. Find fact and you discern what your beliefs are. Man, from that, it's very difficult to be your own person if you're just steadily following somebody else's dictation. Oh yeah, you can be misled and that's what's sad about it, man.
Speaker 2You never know what's going happen, right, yeah, but you know, um, uh, one thing I want to say, because I thought about the other day and I I'm, I was reading a book. It's like a book called the order of jesus, but anyways, it was pre-notes, scriptures, and there's one part I thought it was wild man because, uh, ancient egyptians believe the earth was held on pillars, greeks stated it was carried on the back of Atlas and Hindus claimed it rested on elephants' back, which I feel sorry for the elephants, yeah, but the Bible stated God hangs the earth on nothing, job 26.7. And we know now, the earth is spinning in space, exactly as scripture describes. Now, you think about it. Job is in the Old Testament. That's old school, bro, that's old. You know what I'm saying. And it's like for that to be there.
Speaker 2And then, when they didn't have this technology, I didn't know what yeah, there were an astrologist and all that for that to be written in there. It's crazy, bro like, and I know people can say, oh yeah, it was a astronomist astrologist, one of those but you know how people say like, oh yeah, well, you know it's been, it's been changed and stuff.
Speaker 2Well, you know, the thing is is that the dead sea scrolls show that it wasn't because every word matched. That you know I'm saying. But like, on top of that, I just thought that blew my mind when I read it. I was like dang, that's crazy that. And I looked it up, it's in job and uh, you know, job is a powerful story about a man who loses everything but keeps his faith in god. But on top of that, yeah, it says it hangs the earth on nothing. Now that's crazy to me, bro. That blew my mind. I was like you know I'm, I believe in God and stuff. But don't get me wrong, people have, you know, you you have these doubts and stuff, like the devil comes in your head and mess with you. But then I always got to remember my experience of where I came from but like, yeah, I see stuff like that.
Speaker 1I'm like man, that's wild Blows me the head, bro, start fact checking it. No, no, that's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2You know, I just thought I'd throw that out there because I saw and I've been meaning to. I just kind of keep forgetting about it, you know yeah, yeah but it was crazy, man, you know. But yeah, you're right, man, you gotta, you gotta stay in it, you gotta look at it and do your own homework. But uh, you know, that's it's.
Speaker 1It's a crazy, crazy deal we're going through right now, man yeah, and and I know you guys are gonna notice for sure, it's not that our, our whole podcast is is going uh, full-blown religious or anything like that, but, um, I think and I'll thank charlie for this.
Speaker 1I think, uh, I'm we're not going to be afraid to put god in the forefront of this podcast at all. It's not going to happen. It's not going to change the podcast. We like what we like, we love fights, we like joking, we like bullshitting. Uh, um, but very much so, um, our love and our respect for god is going to be at the forefront and we're not going to be afraid to do it. And, uh, we appreciate anybody who can appreciate that and uh, so, yeah, man, and we're not saying at all that you have to be christian to consume our content or anything like that. The simple fact is that we are putting god at the forefront for ourselves. Um, and you know, hopefully that doesn't mean, you know, all of you guys leave, because we're we're putting them at putting them at the forefront?
Speaker 2yeah, for sure. But I do think that he is the only path, he is the only way, and you know what I mean and I and I, and if you're a full, full believer, you you gotta say that right, like, because then you lead people astray and that's all I'm gonna say, like look, I love you, you can believe what you want. I love you absolutely. But doesn't mean I have to agree with you and I do think jesus christ is the only way in the path. But you know, I'm saying that's, that's kind of where I go with that right, and it's like that's our, that's our opinions right, that's how but at the end of the day, I still love everybody.
Speaker 2I don't love you. You know what I'm saying. I have no hate.
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Speaker 1There's no hate going on here and the podcast is very much going to continue as normal with our guests and all of that stuff, but God will be at the forefront. So just letting you guys know. So, yeah, man, getting past that a little bit, we're gonna get into a little bit of local news because, um, I had a conversation with dave, uh, my friend dave from hot shots. Uh been a friend of mine for quite some time, uh, mainly when I got into drinking age, uh, but, uh, you know, hot shots, everybody knows hot shots is a local place. It's a staple of midland. A lot of people, if a lot of people, in at drinking age, right, uh know exactly what. The place that I'm talking about you visited it once had their famous lunch boxes. Everybody loves those things. Um, and dave, the number one thing that sticks out is dave. He's a very personable guy, a very, you know, happy guy, good guy, always greets you. Happily, I never had an issue at hot shots whatsoever, and they seem to have found themselves, um, in the crosshairs of certain people, uh, certain people in local government. Apparently, um, they have been, uh, for lack of a better word targeted For what reason? They're speculating and they believe they know why. But the only thing that I want to say really is that if the local government is trying to get rid of a place like hot shots that is a staple here, hasn't really had any big issues, um, and they showed me the things that they're putting at the forefront.
Speaker 1Basically, the stuff that's being brought up is hot shots adjacent, um, what? What I want to say by that? They are essentially charging hot shots for the issues going on in the area. As you know, there are two other bars literally connected to hot shots. You got the double bar and the bar on the other side and that area simply, obviously, with drinking involved and people having a good time and this and the other or not having a good time, they people get pissed off, people have fights, shit happens anyway. What happens is these 911 calls that are made. Uh, basically, the people there are like well, I'm by hot shots, I'm near hot shots, uh, it's right in front of hot shots, it it's this and the other Hot Shots is being mentioned, and so those calls are being attributed to a problem at Hot Shots.
Speaker 1I just want to make the people aware, because it's a homegrown business here in Midland and a lot of people know Dave. He's part of the community and he's under siege right now and the only thing I want is for them to get a fair shake If there's an actual thing going on, which Dave personally told me. He is working on every single thing that they have given him to work on, sans the zoning issues, because those are, it's a crock of shit. Those are it's a crock of shit but, to be honest, so sans that, he's worked on everything security, uh, any fines that they gave him. He's going through what he needs to go through to be good, um, and he had a small victory, uh, not too long ago, uh, where he can obviously reopen. Uh, I don't know if it the case is ongoing I have to read more into it and he's going to continue to go to city council to state his case and all of that, which is why he's not here.
Speaker 1I'm speaking for, uh, hot shots because I believe that they should be able to operate here and have operated good within the community for for years. I don't know exactly how many years, but I know since I was 21 years old, right and um, they're, they're good people. They deserve to, you know, have their slice of the american dream and, um, let's hope that there's not anything uh sinister going on behind it and I just use sinister just because, just to make it a little bit more dramatic, right, uh, but, uh, yeah, man, the patch boys back hot shots. Um, they're good people. Um, I don't think, I don't think the people that have met dave and his family and everything would disagree with me. Um, so, just letting everyone know what's going on, because they are under siege, um, and uh he, they're worried about it, they're worried about it and we just want to uh lend our support to them and uh, pay attention, guys, um, if it's something that you care about, pay attention, it's going to be on Facebook. You can follow hot shots actually on Facebook and uh see what's going on as they do uh, these, these proceedings, or whatever you want to call it. Um, as they get into all of this.
Speaker 1Um, he's going to be posting stuff on the hot shots page letting people know what's going on. Um, so, yeah, just check it out. Also, nino America's really involved in it as well. Um, so in his page you could probably check it out what's going on and see the prior stuff. Um, so, yeah, uh, the video of dave actually making his case talking about all this stuff is actually posted. This is nothing new. Um, it's actually posted so you guys can check it out. But the patch boys are going to lend their support to hot shots. Uh, we love that place, but it's not so much about the place, it's more about the people, the family that runs it, and we appreciate them very much. So I just wanted to get that in there before we finish this episode.
Speaker 2Yeah, and if you have Facebook or I think they're even on TikTok, midland Street News, they're doing a lot of it. They're putting a lot of stuff, man. So yeah, that's where I first saw it and I was mentioning it to you. But yeah, man, you know that's good. I'm glad you brought that up because you know that's a big thing kind of going on right now.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you know, but, but I know you got to catch a game, don't you to hear it. And, like I said, uh, we do. Ending the podcast, we want to thank god for giving us the opportunity to be here, be with you, guys, um, and we want to thank god for all the listeners and all the supporters and all the sponsors. Man, we appreciate you guys. Man, yes, sir, appreciate it. This episode is brought to you by underdog wireline. Um, these guys handle everything in wireline. We've been talking about them every week and we mean everything we say. We appreciate their support and if you need anything in wireline works, you give them a call at 432-288-0395.
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