What Your Pain Is Trying to Tell You and How to Finally Listen with Dr. Evette Rose

What if your pain isn’t random,  but a message from your body? In this episode, Dr. Tamar Lawful sits down with trauma and psychosomatic expert Dr. Evette Rose, author of Pain Free Without Pills, to explore how emotions can imprint themselves into the body and how the nervous system “learns” pain.

You’ll hear Dr. Evette’s story of a stress-induced heart attack, her groundbreaking work with over 7,500 case studies, and how she helps people release trauma without reliving it. Together, they unpack how genetics, stress, and emotional health intertwine  and why curiosity, not judgment, is the first step to true wellness.

BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU’LL DISCOVER:

• Why your body’s pain signals may actually be emotional messages — and how to start decoding them.
• How stress, trauma, and even your genetics can shape the way your body “learns” pain.
• A gentle, science-backed way to release stored tension without reliving past trauma

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Chapters

• 0:00 Rethinking One-Size-Fits-All Care
• 3:35 Meet Dr. Yvette Rose
• 5:28 Patterns Between Emotions And Ailments
• 9:08 Working Backward From Emotion To Relief
• 13:43 What Psychosomatic Really Means
• 18:18 Pain As Memory In The Nervous System
• 24:18 Stress, Burnout, And A Wake-Up Call
• 29:28 The Nervous System Learns Trauma
• 35:18 Empowerment Without Shame
• 41:58 Is Trauma Sensitivity Genetic

Transcript

Speaker 4: 1:00

Medications certainly have their place, but what if there was a way to support your body naturally by working with your genetics?

Speaker 3: 1:09

We are a pill for an ill society. We take 18 pills per person per American per day.

Speaker 4: 1:15

It was so hard to find somebody who took my insurance. And for me to get well, it took thousands of dollars. And I thought, what do regular people do? This is not right.

Speaker: 1:24

Despite my best efforts, I wasn't actually reversing disease and helping people to heal in the way that I thought I would.

Speaker 1: 1:30

We want to empower yourselves to take care of this root call. We don't just want to cover it up.

Speaker 4: 1:37

If you're ready to break free from outdated, one-size-fits-all healthcare, you're in the right place. Welcome to Raise the Script with Nutrigenomics, brought to you by InHer Glow® by LYFE Balance. Here's a literature from we're all unique, right down to our DNA. So it's no wonder we respond differently to the same medications, foods, and environments. How do you discover what your body needs? Which medications, foods, supplements, or exercises are right for you? How can you manage chronic conditions without piling on more prescriptions? That's what we're here to explore. I'm your host, Dr. Tamar Lawful, Dr. Pharmacy, Nutrigenomics Specialist, and your partner in reimagining how we personalize care for better outcomes. Whether you're a patient or a practitioner, let's raise the script and bring healthcare to higher levels together. Because the future of health is personal. Hello, welcome back to Raise a Script of Nutrigenomics, where we talk about how science meets self-awareness and how your DNA can help you finally make sense of your health story. I'm Dr. Tamar, and today's episode is one I've been excited to share because we're diving into something most people have felt but rarely understand: the link between emotions and the body. You know how sometimes your body hurts, but your labs are fine. Or how stress can flare up old pain and you thought was gone. Well, my guest today has spent decades studying exactly why that happened. I'm sitting down with Dr. Evette Rose, trauma expert, psychosomatic therapist, and author of Pain Free Without Pills. She's going to help us unpack why pain isn't just physical, how emotions can get stored in the body, and what it really means when someone says it's all in your head. And trust me, by the end of this episode, you'll start looking at your pain and stress in a whole new way. So, friend, grab a cup of tea, get comfortable, and let's get into it. That welcome, you've spent decades helping people understand that their pain might not just be physical, it could be emotional in nature. And a lot of people hear the word psychosomatic and immediately think, so you're saying it's all in my head? It's all in my head. So let's clear that up right away. That what do you actually mean when you say unresolved emotions can show up in your body?

Dr. Evette Rose: 4:12

Dr. Tamar, thank you so much for that introduction. And I'm thrilled to be here. And what a great question to start with. So let's dive straight into this. So my journey actually started with teaching and, you know, just listening to people as with the challenges that they were having and traveling the world while doing so. And I started to notice, I wasn't specifically looking for anything, just helping people to improve their quality of life. I started as a hypnotherapist and I thought, wow, isn't this interesting? After all the people that I have worked with, it doesn't matter what your diet is, it doesn't matter what your beliefs are, it doesn't matter where you are from. Why is it that someone in Canada with maybe arthritis in their left wrist has the exact same emotional trauma and response to the trauma as someone living in Australia who also have arthritis in their left hand. And I thought, how interesting. So I continued to just document my case studies and as I was working, and I am an observer. Very few things escape me when I work with clients. So, you know, the whole micro-expressions, the words, the tone, the body language, and listening for patterns. And I thought, how interesting is it that the more and more people that I'm starting to work with, I'm starting to see the commonality that's being shared with specific types of traumas and stress when they have specific type of ailments. But these people have completely different upbringings. There's so much, there's so many things that should actually dismiss this observation. And here's now where it gets really interesting. Now I'm thinking if these people have the same reaction and then they have these ailments, and it's normally these ailments would flare up when these certain traumas were triggered by the environmental stimuli. Now, now I'm getting curious and I'm thinking, what if we do this backwards? I've just been investigating from the symptom down into the root. What if we try to go backwards? What will happen if I start to address the emotional stress that this person is telling me had happened during their life at the time when the ailments started? And I thought, let's do this. And you know what? The outcome blew my mind. We were actually able to help people to improve their quality of life in relationship to symptom management and flare-up management. And now I'm curious. Now my head is going at a thousand miles an hour. And I'm thinking, what is next? Right? What is next? Now, these are ailments that would actually be medically classified ailments, such as you know, arthritis, maybe autoimmune, and not just limited to that. Just keep that in mind. I mean, this can be any other ailment. I don't want to name too many specific names, but what I notice now is psychosomatic ailments, stomach ulcers, oh, broken heart syndrome, oh, irritable bowel syndrome. Aha. Well, these are all medical conditions that throws you right into the hospital, but somehow there's no real medical plausible underlying cause necessarily, other than being all in your head. Isn't that interesting? And so now I thought, why don't we go straight to the source of this where things are being classified as a psychosomatic condition? And I started working with people who had stomach digestive challenges and stomach ulcers, and we started getting into the emotional stress that they experienced around the time when it started. And lo and behold, the quality of life drastically improved. And after 7,500 case studies and working with clients, let me tell you, there is something brimming with excitement and curiosity as to how deep does this really go? Why is that that emotions can impact our health to the extent that if we address those exact same emotions that according to the client where they feel this impacted me, that incident impacted me, that impacted me, but I never actually addressed that emotional stress. I just held it all in. Wow, how much space do we give to the body when the impact of that emotional stress is released? And how the body is able to snap back, it's like a rubber band. It was incredible. Incredible. And so psychosomatic. I mean, Dr. Tamar, I'm sure you've had a day where you had a lot of stress. You get home, you have a headache. There's no underlying medical cause, and you know there's no cause because maybe you did have which we should do everyone. We should always consult with doctors, we should always make sure that there's no underlying challenge going on when we do feel symptoms or pain. Always check. But we know now that there's maybe no medical underlying cause. So, what caused that headache? So, this is what tickled me pink with all these, you know, with feathers. And I'm just so curious. Where does this go and how deep can it go? So, this is how my journey started, and that is what I mean by saying psychosomatic conditions and how emotions can impact the body. And I started with all the clients that I worked with, I discovered over 722 medical elements and the emotional roots that impact them. And so I started to document all this data, the trauma patterns, the way that people cope with the trauma, the belief systems, and everything that they hold that I help people to address to help them to improve their quality of life.

Speaker 4: 10:40

I love that. You really dug into this hunt to find out what is going on, what is going on? And it came down to those emotions that show up in our body as pain. We're holding on to something, and then you've been able to help your patients tap into what was going on that started, and so that they can resolve it. You know, in your uh latest book, Solving Pain Without Pills, you describe pain not just as a symptom, but sometimes as a memory, and it makes sense, and you know, this is a signal the nervous system keeps replaying and replaying, and such a striking idea. So, can you unpack that for us in plain language?

Dr. Evette Rose: 11:24

Absolutely. So pain can become a learned behavior. Have you ever burnt your hand on the stove by accident? Yeah. And now you know every time when you get close to that stove, it's like you're you're extra careful, right? So there's that memory imprint of it. But sometimes what can happen is let's say you're maybe really tired, you're not as focused, and you burnt your hand, say maybe a second time. What can happen is that that memory of that pain becomes layered in so strong that next time when you just feel the heat of the stove, it can trigger off the pain memory in your hand that you had as a result of the first two initial burns. This is when that messenger pathway becomes oversensitive. And what research also shows is that, and what I notice in my clients as well is that increased stress actually causes these pathways to become even more sensitive. Hence, why people under stress can actually have flare-ups of pain of old injuries in their body. Isn't that incredible? But it does also mean that they are under incredible stress, even though in this case they might be doing something that is not necessarily related to the pain memory, but just the pure, sheer amount of stress running through their body can set off that sensitivity of that pain button.

Speaker 4: 12:52

That's amazing, and it just lets you know how connected our body is within itself and to our emotions. Um, and it's true. We see I've seen patients when they're under immense amount of stress. I've even had coworkers when they're under immense amount of stress, and all these other things start just coming out all of a sudden. You know, there is they have an issue with this or issue with that when they're even even cancer. I've seen people have all of a sudden have cancer diagnosis and turn for the worst really quick when they've been under a lot of emotional stress. Absolutely amazing. You press the big button there exactly.

Speaker: 13:31

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 13:32

Now you're not just writing about this, that you know, you've lived it. You've lived it. You shared about your own stress-induced heart attack. Now, looking back, were there signs your body was trying to warn you before that moment?

Dr. Evette Rose: 13:48

Absolutely. And I completely ignored it. And the reason why I thought, no, I'm actually okay. You know, these heart palpitations, these waves of anxiety and stress, and then diving into my work and using that as gasoline, I confused it with what's called eustress. That positive kick of stress that we get, go, go, go, we're ticking the boxes, the dopamine gets, you know, released, and we just feel like, wow, we're on the top of the world. But all this happy, exciting, nervous anxiousness was really truly covering what was deep down happening in my body. Deep down, there was still a lot of fear, a lot of stress, a lot of, for me specifically, and I'm happy to openly speak, was fear of abandonment, fear of being alone, which is was stemming from my childhood, which I thought I addressed. But I'm speaking, I'm teaching, I'm telling people how to live their best lives. And I thought, wow, you know, I'm a living testament of what I have created. And then the stress started coming, and then my worst nightmares started to unfold, which was fear of abandonment. So a significant relationship was collapsing. I had a significant loss all in the span of three months, and my stress levels were through the roof. Dr. Tamar, my body and my heart said no, it just said no. And here's the thing I was in hospital and I was discharged that same day. The doctor came into my room and he threw a box of white pills in a box, you know, on my bed, and he said, You don't have a goddamn heart problem, you have a stress problem. Get out of my hospital. I need these beds, and that was it. This was the third world country, okay? So client briefing was very different, and he prescribed me chill out, Evette. Get your stress under control, Evette. But you know what? I'm thankful that he didn't come in there. Oh, you poor thing, you poor thing. Because for me, specifically, what I needed, I needed that kick, I needed that reality check because I fell into feeling like a victim. And you cannot heal and be powerful while you feel like a victim, which is exactly what I felt. I needed. I felt that the universe was just, come on, Evette, you know, let's get back on track. Look at what happened. You teach this. What would you say to yourself if you were your client? And that is where everything around 360 degrees. And I took my time, loving, self-compassion, and I healed and I processed and allowed myself to be supported. Everything that I never in my life would have allowed. I was allergic to support, supports for weak people. It's like, no, you control me with support. I had so many negative associations with support. And here, now it was a life-changing event. As stressful as what it was, it was so life-changing. So life-changing, really.

Speaker 4: 16:54

Amazing is that. And you know, sometimes we need that tough love to waken us up, to waken us up. Let me tell you, sometimes we are the worst when people like you and I who who help others, who coach others and and through their lives, and we tend to put ourselves in the back burner because we're we're so focused in on them that yeah, we we forget that hey, we need to practice what we preach as well. And yes, we need it, we need that tough love sometimes. And I completely resonate with that, especially with the you know, oh no, I don't need help.

Dr. Evette Rose: 17:30

I don't need help from you. I got this. My ego buckled. My ego was just like, no, we're not doing this, Evit. Like, no, this is not good for your image. We are not doing that. Right, right. I had to just the ego's head, I just had to push it back under the ground, and it's just like, not today.

Speaker 4: 17:46

Yeah, and there is nothing wrong, nothing wrong wrong with the guidance help at all. Now, going back to your book, there's something uh that stood out in your book. There's this phrase that I remember. It says the nervous system doesn't just respond to trauma, it learns it. Yeah. But for people who are used to the standard medical explanation of pain, how does that perspective shift the way we think about chronic illness? Where the nervous system doesn't just respond to trauma, it learns it.

Dr. Evette Rose: 18:13

Exactly. So this is the stove example that you and I talked about earlier. The body felt didn't just feel the pain, but we also built a narrative around our response, the memory, how we felt in that moment, how we now feel about a stove, how we now feel about the stress response as a result of pain. So we don't like being in pain. And when we experience that a physical injury, it's a whole physiological response that we have. And what I learned something really interesting, how a person feels on the day when they experience an injury, it's almost like that memory becomes infused and it merges with the stress response of that pain that the person experienced. And I noticed this pattern working with people and going to the time of the injury, not because there's pain, but because the injury often was so traumatic. And when we start to connect to that and we start to not regress, but we we tap into the somatic patterns of the body. Dr. Tamar, would you believe me if I told you every time this person was able to accurately recall the memories that they felt on the day of that injury? And I thought, isn't that interesting? Because now what, and the reason why I took them back to that point is because I noticed a pattern where emotional stress that they felt that was similar to the time of the injury, even though the injury is gone, the pain is gone, just the emotional stress would bring back the memories of that incident, of the pain that they felt, as well as sometimes even the psychosomatic pain that would fade in and out ever so slightly. It would go away, but it's incredible how that faint memory stays and the body remembers. So the body also builds an emotional narrative around the experience that we have, as well as the pain that we have. We feel the pain, but then I'm sure you've experienced this where we almost like have an opinion about that pain and the and later on an opinion about the emotions that we felt as a result. So it's like we have these different stages of emotional experiences as well, that is now fused and layered in along with that one-off incident that can last a lifetime and that can be re-triggered again by our environmental stimuli and often, in most cases, by unrelated stress factors. But the stress reaches a certain level of intensity that causes the person to feel the same emotional stress that they felt at that time, and that can create this little mini explosion of sensations to go off in the body.

Speaker 4: 21:12

Now, I want to touch on something important. You know, when people hear your pain is emotional, um, some may feel blamed, they may even feel guilty, like it's somehow their fault. So, how do you make sure that your approach empowers people rather than add shame?

Dr. Evette Rose: 21:30

That is such a great question. So, first of all, there's no shame in feeling pain, it's no one's fault. The body is just doing what it's designed to do, and that's it. Now we just learn and understand how do I work with this body that didn't come with the manual? So it's trial and error. Just two and a half years ago. Here I am teaching how to understand the messages of the body with locked in chronic neck pain to the point where I couldn't turn my neck. I could barely turn my neck. I literally had to move my whole body to be able to just look left or right. And the anger, the frustration that came because I'm thinking I am teaching people how to deal with this. Why is this happening to me? And so I had to backtrack and just realize you know what? No one is above pain, no one is above experiencing trauma, no one is above having bad days. No one. And sometimes these bad days become days, weeks, months, and even years. No one is above that. So it's really just a matter of learning to come back to the body because one thing that I learned is if you are in pain, if you are in stress, your body is already under stress. The last thing that your body needs is judgment, criticism, and meaning how we feel about ourselves. Oh, come on, you know, come on, body, let's do this. You know, just get back on track. Why are you failing me? Your body's not broken, your body's not failing you, your body is just asking for a different approach. And what that approach could be might be very different for every person. And it's now a matter of becoming curious and understanding what could this message be? How do I decode this? Because here's one incredibly important point to remember for everyone. Look at the attitude and just your physiology. If you sit there and you think, oh, I feel pain. Okay, I know it's uncomfortable. It would make any person feel irritated. Pain can color your life of different color. I hear you. But now that pain comes. Wow, I'm curious. What's going on? What is my body trying to tell me? Let's go see if it could be this, let's go see what could be that. Let's check with the doctor, let's double check. Okay, it's not this. I'm looking at different avenues versus oh my God, here we go again. You failed me. This is just what is wrong. The body's like, Well, you want to know what's wrong? Sure, sure, I'll tell you what's wrong. And then kaboom, now you're gonna find a whole list of things. What's wrong? Your intention is going to filter in exactly what you're looking for. If you're looking for problems, let me tell you, that's all that you'll see. Your RAS is gonna validate that, your reticular activating system, right? And that includes your internal sensory system. Your insular will be like, yeah, all right, let's go. Okay. This is the power of intention. People underestimate that tremendously. So now, if you go in there with at least trying to be more positive in the sense of, let's be curious, let's problem solve this. Okay, great. Now we're open to solutions. I only see problems. Problem, what is the problem? Why are you broken? You're not going to see solutions. You are in the wrong mindset for that. It's exactly what I said earlier. It is impossible to feel I can heal when you feel like a victim. This is tough love. But let me tell you, this is incredibly important because one thing that I learned with it's not just the back pain that I had. I had my own horror stories with pain, but just to keep it bullet point short, what I had to learn also with my pain was that sometimes what just needs to happen is these harsh words that's coming towards you is sometimes just an echo of what we allowed to filter in from our past. I really had to learn how to change my relationship with myself by being kinder, more self-compassionate, and knowing that Evette, you know what, you're doing a damn good job. And yes, there were times where I was on my knees and I felt like a victim and I felt like I just couldn't go anymore. And I had pity parties, Dr. Tamar, and no one was invited. Let me tell you that. I had them a lot, a lot. But here's what's important give yourself time to feel that vulnerability. Give yourself time to feel your feelings, everything that needs to be felt. It's your right. If you feel it, it's real and it's valid. The worst thing that a person can do is to invalidate it. That invalidation is just echoes of people dismissing your needs. Well, sorry, you don't have to accept that anymore. This is now between you and your relationship with your body, and that's no one's business. So I really had to learn that to strengthen that beautiful dynamic because your body's been there from the day that you were born and it's going to be there until the day that you pass. So this is this is such a sacred dynamic and relationship. And the more that we can nurture and rebuild and heal that, the more that inner body is going to have space to start to come forward. And this gibberish language is going to start to become clearer because the body communicates to you through symptoms, sensations, and emotions. But look at all these negative associations that we have associated with emotion. Oh, there's a negative emotion. No, put your head back down. You know, oh, there's that bad feeling. Oh, where's the glass of wine? Right? So we build our life around coping, we build our life around not feeling. Your body communicates to you through sensations. How do you think that you interpret those sensations? It's through the emotional body. When you get that intuitive hit, how do you think you interpret that? You get the feeling, you get the sensation, it makes you feel a certain way. The subconscious mind's like, oh, well, I have prime memories related to this, this, this, this, that. Okay, so here comes a full message together. Now I get it. That's what my intuition is trying to tell me. If you're dissociated, if you have stress, if you're focused on surviving, your mind is not prioritizing messages coming in. It's over there focusing on trying to put out flames. Right. It couldn't get less. So it's really about coming back, really truly understanding what matters in my life. Where do I really want my energy to be invested in? Where do I want my focus to be? Our focus is unwillingly often pulled into these stress factors. But now it's about coming back and consciously choosing. I call my power back from that and coming back into the body and a gentle, safe practice ways. There's many tools to do that. And it's important that every person finds the tool that's good for them, that works for them. But it really is about coming back and then allowing yourself to have these moments, but to remember that core inner spark of light that is within you, that is your true, authentic, God-given sense of empowerment, and to tap gently, slowly, one step at a time, one breath at a time, back into that and climbing that ladder back up into who you are and who you want to become. Because you and we, we are all so much more than our trauma. We are so much more than our pain. And sometimes when we are in pain, we feel that that pain is so great, it's so big that it's bigger than us. But this is where we need to remember our authority. Pain, trauma, these are all passing experiences. And let me tell you, I've experienced trauma that nearly took my life. So I don't say this lightly. I can't say I understand other people's trauma, but I definitely do understand from my personal perspective what I personally have been through. And granted, we all have different ways of interpreting empowerment. We have different ways of interpreting how trauma and pain influences us. But what I can say, what we all probably can agree on, is that you have probably noticed it's so much harder to manage pain, to manage stress when you feel powerless to it.

Speaker 4: 29:49

Oh, that is so true. You've you've dropped so many golden nuggets for us, Evette. Like going back to body's not broken. You know, we just we just need to know, listen to it to find out what it needs and yeah, and search, try, try different things to help ourselves, but also not suppressing what we're feeling. Because you're right, people will go to unhealthy coping mechanisms and uh to suppress those emotions and not deal with them. And that doesn't solve the problem at all. It's still there. So thank you for bringing out those points. Now, as you know, on this podcast, we often talk about genetics, you know, how our DNA can set us up for certain health patterns. Um, do you think that some people are more genetically sensitive to storing trauma in the body?

Dr. Evette Rose: 30:41

Absolutely. And this, I'm so glad that you brought this up because part of my research when I work with my clients is I also take into account their family history. Because I'm like, why do two people live in the exact same environment? And then one person gets sick because of the environment. And the other person is thriving. Yeah. I'm like, oh, here we go. Why is it that everyone in this family have stomach ulcers, but it's psychosomatic? Oh, why is it that everyone in this family have irritable bowel syndrome, but it's psychosomatic?

Speaker: 31:15

Hmm.

Dr. Evette Rose: 31:16

So I actually spoke about this at the medical conference in London just last year when I was invited to speak at the Queen's Mary University. And people were sitting there and they were like, she has a point. Because a lot of people would look at you skewed. It's like, yeah, I don't know if that's true. Well, isn't that interesting that something that the origin of emotions is passed down? It's not the medical condition passed down. I'm sorry. It is the emotional, psychological makeup and sensitivity to stressors in the environment that is passed down. This is what's passed down. And when that person lives their life, they experience that same heightened enough amount of stress to become then susceptible to this ailment coming forward. And then kaboom, here we go. Why is it that someone suddenly gets cancer and there's no sign of cancer in three, four generations back? None. Why is that? Is that now showing us where the biology came forward? And it said, I am so stressed. I keep passing down these psychological emotions and stressors. It's not being resolved. So I keep passing it down and down and down. No one's finding a solution. And then boom. Then we could potentially have a full-blown ailment. The things that I have seen, Dr. Tamar, it will blow your mind. And I have had doctors on my case like, Evette, explain this to me because I saw this, you did this with my client. Then my client came back with all these theories and all these different things. And I'm like, are you listening now? It's incredible. So I personally believe that yes, because let's look at evolution. Evolution is designed to survive. So what is the body going to do? It's going to continuously pass down problems because it didn't find a solution to it. Evolution shows us it's very solution-oriented. So when we see a problem with the body saying, Hey, I'm looking for a solution, but then we dive into it as a problem rather than going, okay, what needs to be unpacked here, apart from just looking at this as just an element? What else is going on? So that's my answer to your question.

Speaker 4: 33:39

Yeah, indeed. Uh definitely when we look at genetics and um with the nutri genomics testing that I use, we're we're also looking at stress factors. How are you handling stress? How does your body respond to stress? And that is part of their lifestyle goals and to handle stress better, and we have that as part of their plan, their wellness plan, their stress management, because addressing how they handle stress, how they process it plays a huge role in these chronic diseases, a presentation of them. Definitely a key point there. Well, looking into um how you help your patients, you you know, you know, you don't just do private sessions, you lead retreats, trauma recovery workshops with so many wellness programs out there. What makes your approach different?

Dr. Evette Rose: 34:27

Because of my own personal experience, where a practitioner took me through, I will not go too much into what my traumas were. I don't want to trigger everyone, but it triggered so much in me because I didn't know that the technique could actually cause a person to relive their trauma. This person believed that, or at least the the modality believed that you have to relive it in order to heal it. And I was triggered so severely that my response triggered the practitioner, and she happened to share the same trauma as me, and she didn't really work on her issues. And now we had two triggered people, and she couldn't get me out of it. I went home that day and I was already working on my processes, and I thought this will never happen again, not to anyone. It it sent me into a state of suicide, it was that severe. And so I spent 16 years developing now a gentle process that addresses so many components without the person needing to tell what the story was. You don't have to remember accurate memories as to what had happened, and you do not have to relive the trauma in order to get results, in order to improve your quality of life. That is not needed. I will fight anyone to the tooth and nail about that. That's just not necessary. After all the people that we've helped, no, absolutely not. So, this is where my process is very much designed on getting the person back into a state of safety because the nervous system, as you know, it will not regulate if it doesn't feel safe. The body will not heal if it doesn't feel safe because it will always prioritize stress, it will always prioritize all the energy will go to that stress point, and the body cannot relax, it cannot regulate. So your autonomic nervous system is like, no, we're not doing this, you know, and it stays on on that that buzzing mode. We're we're gonna, we're not letting this go. So it's really about getting that person safely back into the body. So we work with the emotions that stored in the body in different places because after working with all these people, I noticed that specific type of emotions they have specific places where they go and sit in the body. So with the technique, we've learned and understood now where and how all this mapping is, and then with the technique, we go in there, we help the body to release the stress in the body, and we also work on the cognitive healing, reprogramming, and dissociating emotional experiences with instinctive responses. Because listen, let's be honest, these two they fire together, and if they fire together, they wire together. So they are so deeply connected in relationship to memories that are formed. And what that means is we know instinctive responses, they run physically through the body. So all these instinctive responses that were either acted on or in most cases not acted out on, it becomes locked into the body, connected with these emotional imprints wired along with them, connected with the narrative and the story that we tell ourselves and the fears and many other cognitive distorted ways of thinking because of the trauma. No one thinks clearly when we're in a state of distress, right? So there's a lot of uncategorized folders that need to be categorized correctly again. So there's different set of elements that need to happen because I looked at people's body, how they store trauma, and I'm thinking there has to be a way backwards. And I literally just took the whole process backwards, and that's how the technique just beautifully unfolded.

Speaker 4: 38:17

Wow, definitely a technique that's helping meant thousands of people all over. And yeah, why relive the trauma? It's one thing to address it. You don't want to suppress it, you want to address it, but reliving it is just traumatic in itself all over again. It's unnecessary. So thankful that you've found a way more healthier, a safer way for people to address their trauma. So thank you for that. Now, for our audience, many of whom are high-achieving women who tend to push through stress and pain. We've identified the hidden costs of ignoring the body's messages. We've spoken about it today. But what's one shift that you can tell them to make today to start listening to their bodies differently? Can I give two?

Dr. Evette Rose: 39:06

Because this is actually really important. Of course, if it's high achieving queen. So listen, this is really important. Number one, it's safe to come back to your breath. Just simply focusing on breathing, not your body, but breathing, is such a beautiful, gentle, safe way to come back into the body because people avoid feeling, people avoid coming into the body because this is where we feel bad. We are discomfort avoidant. We all know that, right? But the breath is a gentle way and then non-distressing way to come back in the here and now. Your body needs you, your past doesn't need you, your future does. So, this is a beautiful place and space to come back because it's in the present moment where we create the changes that your future self will thank you for. And a beautiful way to come back into the present, to come back into that safe space is just simply following your breath. Just four minutes, just four minutes, quietly just sitting and just listening, just noticing your breath. That's it. Number two, ladies, listen. I know high achieving, I'm one too, I get it. But have you noticed that when you are in this high achieving state, we are too much in our masculine? We are too much in our masculine, that cortisol adrenaline, go, go, go, you know, do, do, do. I can't fail, I must go. Did you know that we can be successful and feminine at the same time and dance with the masculine and not just lean on the masculine as a crutch? Because when we drop back into our femininity, that's when our creativity soars. That's when our sense of self really comes to the fore. And it's a beautiful place to be in. A lot of us associated, I did, so I'm speaking for myself. I associated my femininity with being weak, with being vulnerable, with being ignored, with being stepped on. But that was my wounded femininity. And I learned how to heal that side of myself. And I always thought of Mother Teresa as such a beautiful example, this loving, caring lady, but she had fierce boundaries. She could speak, she could stand up for herself. And I love that. That incredible, beautiful dance between the masculinity and the femininity. Because I noticed women who are very much in their masculinity, they tend to get ovary problems, thyroid problems, digestive problems, and breast problems, all sorts of ailments. Every time when I see a woman having issues there, 100%, every single time, it's not safe to be soft, it's not safe to be graceful, it's not safe to be feminine. And they're in their masculine. The woman's biology is not designed to hold that space for too long. So it's time to come back home to your true authentic self in your femininity and lean on that masculinity when you need it. Absolutely. We do need it sometimes, but not all the time, because you were designed to be feminine. And feminine can also be in men. I'm not just talking about women, it's a beautiful, compassionate, loving sight, but also that has a fierceness to it that has clarity about what my boundaries are. A lot of people think, oh no, I have good boundaries, I can set them. Well, look at how much anger you need to set a boundary. Real boundaries come from that place of clarity. And when you say no, that clarity strikes hard without needing that anger. Just as an example. So this is something beautiful to perhaps consider and see where do you feel you might be on that scale. And I'll leave you with that. So that is my ending message for you and everyone else. Yeah. So this was my personal experience. And maybe you resonate, maybe you don't, and that's okay. But I thought I would just share that.

Speaker 4: 43:15

I think a lot of the high-achieving women, the leadership positions out there taking the reins on so many things in life, they will definitely resonate with that. Definitely resonate with that. So great advice with the breathing. You're letting your body know it's safe with that breath work, right? And then, yeah, stepping into the femininity and that having that clarity and setting those boundaries. Thank you so much, Evette. I have one more question for you, actually. With your book solving pain without pills, it's available. I want to dive deeper. This would be my last question. But if you were to pick it up tonight, what's the one chapter I or idea you'd want them to focus on first?

Dr. Evette Rose: 43:53

Your concept and your beliefs around pain. I cannot tell you that. This is so important. And that's the first chapter. Just understanding the different narratives around pain because our story about it is going to filter and almost like condense down the experience that you can take in, versus if you understand the bigger umbrella under which to start to maybe learn and understand pain. You're going to see this from a very new, big, different perspective. And you're going to guaranteed have a lot of aha moments. So I would definitely start with chapter one. Thank you, Dr. Evette Rose.

Speaker 4: 44:33

It's a thank you for joining us on Raise the Script with Nutrigenomics today. Thank you for having me. Wow, what a conversation. I love how Dr. Evette reminded us that pain isn't the enemy, it's information. Your body's not breaking down on you, it's trying to talk to you. The question is, are you listening? If this episode hit home, especially when we talked about how stress or trauma can live in the body, you're not alone. Understanding your genetic response to stress is one of the most powerful ways to support your body before it starts sending those SOS signals. You can learn more about that at our website, www.thelifebalance.com. That's www.t-h-l-y-febalance.com, where I help women design wellness by DNA, not by chance. Talk to you next Friday. Until then, always remember to raise the script on health, because together we can bring healthcare to higher levels.

Speaker: 45:35

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