How to Stay Well While Growing a Business, with Laura Caddy

Running your own business requires more than good ideas and solid strategy.

It asks for energy, emotional regulation, focus, and the ability to make decisions when things feel uncertain. When those start to wobble, everything else gets heavier too - marketing, consistency, confidence.

This episode explores health through a longevity lens. How strength, sleep, and taking care of your body support the kind of work entrepreneurs are doing every day, especially over the long term.

I’m joined by Laura Caddy, an online fitness coach who works with professional women over 35, to talk about building routines that fit real life and support both mental and physical wellbeing.

If you’ve been telling yourself you’ll get to this once things calm down, this conversation might land.

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 We go, we're on. Laura, it is really, really lovely to have you on the podcast. Thank you for coming to talk to me.

Thank you for having me. Very excited to be here.

Nice. It's cool. Excellent. So for people who do not know you, um, can you give them a little bit of like an intro to who you are and what you do and how you got here?

Yeah, so I am Laura Caddy from Laura Caddy Lifts your PT in Your Pocket, and I'm an online fitness coach. I help professional women over 35 to fit fitness into their lives, feel strong, get their energy back, and just feel confident in their own bodies again.

Um, so you work with, um, a specific, that specific kind of group of women, why women over 35?

I'm 43, so I, I guess I started working mainly with women over 35, um, a couple of years ago. 'cause we tend to start that whole perimenopausal journey and. Having, I, I believe being in that, um, on that journey myself, it just means that I can really relate to them, you know, understand the struggles and the challenges, and I can kind of help to navigate them through that.

And also, uh, I've done a lot of research in the types of training for perimenopausal women, so it just helps to yeah, be able to help them get the most out of there. Their workouts really and their body and help with the fogginess of the mind and just feel normal.

As normal as we can feel

Yeah.

as we're going about our day. Cool. And how did you get into like online fitness coaching?

So. I fit a pt. I started off as a person, an in-person PT in 2017. Um, and the reason why I got into fitness was because I had pneumonia in 2013, and then I lost the hearing in my right ear overnight. So 'cause of that, because my ear died, I lost like my, my balance, I had to rebalance my brain. So I had to try lots of different types of exercises.

I tried running, it didn't really work, so I'd fall over 'cause of my balance issues. Um, and I fell in love with weight training. So I had a PT to help me and sort of just fell in love with it. Really, it just made me feel. Um, better. It helped me dig myself out of this hole that I had put myself into 'cause I just was a bit depressed and didn't really know what to do.

So then I got my qualifications and I became pt and then I decided to start to go online. I actually went online in January, 2020, which was a few months before the famous lockdown hit in the march. Um. And then the next year I moved a away from where all my clients were when I was doing the in-person clients.

Um, and just, yeah, just started to do more online stuff because it meant that nobody was tied to me. I wasn't tied to them. If they didn't feel like doing a workout that day, they weren't letting me down. You know, they could just fit it in at another time. So it was very flexible for them. They could just choose.

When was best for them to do the workouts and um, yeah. Then I had my baby, so I had a bit of time off, and then this year I've just got absolutely back to it from February and just did a big relaunch. And so my client portfolio is, uh, is, is basically they're all over 35. All perimenopausal, even though some of them might even be in denial.

Um, and yeah, we're really working on their, their strength training. So it's really good for me to have a different, um, like array as well of, of abilities. So some, uh, at home and they've got no equipment, maybe just mini bands. Others have got some dumbbells at home, others are at the gym. So it's really nice sort of array of, um, of women that I'm working with at the moment.

Makes it interesting.

That's very cool. There seems to be a little bit of a resurgence of like strength training and, and women in perimenopause and menopause. Um, why do you think that is?

Well, from the age of 35, you lose 1% of your muscle mass. So it is more important. I say it's more important for women to strength, right? It's important for everybody. Everybody to strength train because. You know, the more muscle that you can have on the more bone density as well that you can create and the, the less likely you are to get osteoporosis.

So it's, it's important, um, especially with women of perimenopausal age because we tend to, it sounds weird, but we tend to, to dry out almost so our bones get more brittle. Um, we are losing muscle mass, so. By really focusing on high protein diet and strength training, we can really keep and maintain that muscle.

Um, it's also slightly more difficult for us to lose weight, especially around the middle section, uh, the, uh, Meow Belly, as you might have have heard. Unfortunately, it does tend to be a thing, but bye. Building up the muscle. Our bodies, they burn more calories to maintain it. So it is kind of a win-win really.

You know, you build the muscle, you are gonna have less likely to have issues with your bones in the future, and your body's gonna burn more calories, doing nothing like sleeping, just to maintain it.

Yeah, that's fair. Why do you think some women might not have got round to thinking about weight training or that kind of thing?

I think for a lot of women it's knowledge,

um, and experience. So, and also maybe just a bit of anxiety. A lot of the women that I spoke to at first, before they go into a gym, they've, and I've said, why haven't you been to a gym before? They say it's, you know, they feel it's a place for the big boys. You know, they, they don't feel like they belong, but we do belong, you know, we do belong there.

Um, and I completely understand if you've not been to a gym before, the machines can look scary if you've got no idea how to use them, you know, maybe you don't know whether you are using the dumbbells or the barbells correctly. Um, and maybe, you know, there are, there are people in the weight section that.

You sort of think I'm a bit intimidated to go into that section and, and be with them, but, um, and also on the other side of it is maybe they don't feel like they should be putting themselves first. So that's another big thing. If they've got families and kids, it's the guilt of what I, I should be, you know, a hundred percent all the time being there for my kids.

I, so therefore it's a treat if I wanna go to the gym and I shouldn't treat myself because I'm a mom. Um, so it's, it's changing that mindset of actually, if you put yourself first and you look after yourself, you'll be around longer for your kids because you're gonna be healthier and you're showing them that being strong is important for longevity for your future.

So it's, it's changing that mindset. And once they, they understand that, then. They're kind of like, yes, I'm all in now. I'm going to gym four times a week. So I think it, it is, it's kind of a, a combination of things and that's where I meet them, where they're at. So if they're at that point, then it's like, okay, well work out from home.

All we need is some mini bands. Let's look at pockets of time where. You can do half an hour, say a couple of times a week just to start to have that time for you and start to not have that guilt of putting that time aside for you. Because if your cup is full, then it's easier to fill up everybody else's.

If you're running on empty, you kind of, it's, you know, good to, to anyone really.

Yeah, I mean, I know you work, um, mainly with women, but have you come across any men that have had that kind of idea that they shouldn't take time for themselves to go to the gym, or does it, like, 

does it seem to be a particularly female thing?

it's a very female thing. Um, I'm sure there are men out there. I'm sure there are, but I've never, I've never met any, I think it, it does, you do tend to see, like with the parenting, the. It falls on the women to do most of the looking after children, the bedtime, the bath time, getting them up, taking 'em to school and working as well.

There are, I come across now more that the, the dads or the, the males, the family, um. Encourage the, the mom to actually go to the gym. So I see it from that side, which is brilliant. Um, my partner, he's brilliant. Um, so I was getting up at five in the morning to go to the gym to come back to get my daughter up, to take her to nursery, pick her up.

But he said over the last couple months, you don't need to do that. I'll get her up. So why don't you just get up at six and go to the gym and come back? Which has been like, I didn't even think of that. And I'm telling my clients. You got, you know, you don't need to do everything yourself. So I think it's just in us, isn't it, to just feel like we have to do it all, but we don't have to do it all.

And, and men nowadays are a lot more, they're around that way of thinking. They, they understand that actually it's very important for us to have our own time and for us to look after ourselves. Physically and, and for our mental health, and they're very supportive. So that's been really good to see. I've not, I've not come across anywhere that hasn't been the case, which has been brilliant.

That's cool. Yeah, I mean, I think as, as women we are, so it's, there's, we are socially indoctrinated from such a young age to be like, we have to look after people and we have to put others' needs before our own. And then, and then you're a mom and you're doing that even more. And so you, you always end up coming last in the pecking order. And looking after yourself is, is seen as a luxury. It was really interesting earlier when you talked about going to the gym, people seeing, going to the gym as being like a treat for themselves, whereas it's kind of what it should be is like, is basic, basic self-care, like basic kind of looking after your health and, and your wellbeing.

But in our heads it's like, well, I might, I might do it if I have time or I might do it if I've been kind of like productive enough. Um, but it's not. It's not a necessity. It's something that I fit in if and when I can.

Yeah, and I, and I think for a lot of people they go, you know, well, I've got this big load of washing institute, or I've gotta get all these things out for work first. So if I've got time after. Then I'll do it. But then they don't do it because it never ends. 'cause once you've done, you know, you know what it's like when you've got kids, it, every day is, is a whirlwind.

You, you can clean the house three times a day and it's still like a bombs hit it. So

Yeah.

that's why, you know, I, I kind of encourage 'em if you are like that, which is what I'm like then. You get up and you do it first thing in the morning because you can't talk yourself out of it, then it's done. You feel great.

The day is just more energized and better. The other thing really positive thing about strength training or just exercise in general is it helps if your sleep. So a lot of perimenopausal women struggle with sleep night sweats. But if you can strength train, your body's using that energy at night to rebuild that muscle, you've released those endorphins, those feel-good hormones in the day.

If you have a better sleep, you wake up, you're more energized, more likely to push, a bit harder in the gym, a better sleep. So you get this really good circle going on, which is um, once you kind of get into that rhythm. It's just fantastic.

Yes. We love sleep. Sleep is good.

Oh yeah.

Well, no, so I worked out at home for. 15 years, like all the way through having both children. And obviously there are times when that was really helpful. Like it means you can fit it in like in nap time without having to factor in kind of like going anywhere. It mean it meant during lockdown.

I was used to kind of like working out at home and stuff. But I have recently started, um, want recently started going back to the gym and also, um, been training for a marathon and the joy of getting out of the house.

Okay.

Um. Far outweighs the um, uh, yeah, the convenience of, of being able to kind of like fit your workout in the living room. So, I mean, it's a bit like it's horses for courses or like things for different seasons, but it has been, it's made a notable difference to my mental health, being able to kind of like separate my psyche and myself physically from the house for a while.

Yeah, I think that's important to take yourself out of. 'cause if you work from home. You look after your kids from home, you are always at home. Then you work out from home. There's no separation.

Um, so I do the same either. Then, um, my garage is a, you know, it's, it's a gym now. Hardly ever work out there anymore.

'cause I need to have that separation. And also, you know, there, there's always danger that someone could knock on the door and then you're interrupted or, you know. Someone could phone. So at least by taking yourself out that situation, being in an environment that's different, talking to people, you know, adults, um, who aren't just asking you for snacks, that's,

That's the dream.

that is the dream.

And then you make friends. And I think this is the other thing, by going to a place like a gym, you meet like-minded people. And if you go regularly at the same times. They're likely to be there too. And then you can start to have a bit of a bond with them, a chat before you know it, you've got a workout buddy, which is quite nice.

Um, so yeah, I, I think that's a good thing too, because it helps you feel less self-conscious when you're at the gym because like, oh, I know him, him, him, him or her.

No, that's true. So, um, the diet and like health and fitness industry generally. 'cause um, right, I'm gonna, Alice, you can delete that. Sorry. That's my va, um, that she'll, so she searches through and searches for her name and then delete stuff I need to get rid of. Um, I'm gonna start that thought again. Um, what was I gonna say?

The diet and fitness.

we go. Yes. Momentarily distracted by fly. Um, so as a marketer, I work with a lot of different people who are trying to kind of get their message across to their audience, to build their business, to get more clients, that kind of thing. it comes to marketing, like the health and fitness industry has not had the best reputation in terms of like ethical marketing and like, um. Guilt tripping people and the idea of like making people feel bad about themselves so that you can sell them the fix. So I know a couple of years ago there was that beach body ready ad that was up of the, um, all over the tube stations. I grew up with the special K diet and like heroin and chic and all that kind of thing. How do you approach. Marketing and I'm doing little bunny ears that nobody on the podcast can see, which is not very helpful. Um, how do you approach talking to your audience, um, in a way that, that sits with your vibe, which I know is very empowering and, and kind of, and, and it, but yeah. Accepting in that way.

So I say pretty much forget everything you've seen. Forget everything, you know, it is all bs. You don't need to buy like protein bars at two pound 50 a bar. You don't need to waste your money on on all of this marketing stuff. It's just gimmicks. You just need to focus on a high protein diet That's.

That's like ingredients that are actual things like chicken, a chicken and sweet potato, sweet potatoes. You know, it's the meal plans that I do for them. They are super simple but delicious. There's no. It's like wastage of, of food. There's no like having to buy all this special expensive stuff in. Um, it's just focusing on high protein.

Now. The high protein thing is the only thing that I think is true. Um, out of all the marketing out there, and especially for women, like we said, you know, go and perimenopausal, you need to focus on your muscles and bones. Um. But there's so many of them that say, oh, I've, you know, I've bought this particular mushroom powder at like 50 quid for a hundred grams.

Like, oh yeah, you don't need that. Um, so, and so I end up saving them money because they're buying things that are not, not, you know, I'm not saying cheap, but they're, they're just, they're buying good whole foods. Um. Are what they, and then when they're cooking them, you can make so much help to them that if you look at meals, you look at sort of maybe two pound, two 50 a meal, which if you're a family, is very cost effective other than if you are buying these, whatever they're called, those meals, the gourmet meals that people make, um, and try and sell you, which, um.

I'm not saying it's, it's unhealthy, you know, it's good stuff, but it's very expensive, but it's very easy to do yourself. So yeah, these 1200 calorie diets and all of those, the, the cabbage soup for diet, you remember those? Um, I think as well, a lot of people think they need to eat less calories. But actually they need to eat more sometimes to lose weight, because as long as you're in a, I'd say a 20% deficit really is, is aggressive enough to start with from once you work out what your TDE is, and then you, you deduct 20% and then that's your calories.

So if you're on, if 2000 is your TDE, you deduct 20%, that's 1600, which isn't, if you are. Like eating processed foods or you know, these high things that are marketed as high protein foods, then it's not very much. But if you go by what's in the, what's in a plan, like with the chicken, the vegetables, the potatoes or the rice or whatever, the volume of it is a hell of a lot more.

So it's the volume and the protein that are gonna keep you really full.

So yeah, it's, it's, um. Kind of annoys me when I see adverts that are making people feel bad or making them think things about themselves that they wouldn't have necessarily thought before they saw their advert, and then thinking, oh, okay, well that's me.

Maybe I do need that. Then, you know, maybe I am overweight when they're probably absolutely fine. They just need to eat whole foods and just eat, you know, eat in a certain way.

Yeah. Which kind of leads me onto, I would be remiss if having someone like in the health and fitness world on, and not mention, um, GLP ones and um, and like ozempic and things like that. Are you, are you hearing more people in, like your clients talk about that? Do you have an opinion on it? Like, is it becoming an issue in your field?

When it all first came out, I was dead against it. Absolutely, a hundred percent no. All you need to do is just work out and, you know, eat healthy and be patient, but. The more that I've come to talk to people about it, I do believe that some people do need it because some people have food noise that they really do struggle to turn it off and others don't.

With others it might just be a, um, a behavioral or a, um, an issue with they don't know what to do or what to eat. But with some others it is. I, I do think it's a condition, you know, that is more psychological. So I think for some people. Who have a psychological issue that can't turn off the food noise.

They're always thinking about their next meal, their snacks. I think for those people, they, they really do need it, but there's a lot of people who can't be bothered to do the work and they go for the injections 'cause it's easier. And I don't think that is right because when they come off, um, if you think like when you're on these injections.

Your metabolism does slow down 'cause you're not eating enough, 'cause you're not hungry. So when you come off, you've got a bit of fixing to do for that. And I've got a client, she's on manjaro, she's on the, the highest dose and, and it, and it's stable. The weight isn't really changing. And that I think is a bad thing because what do you do when you get to that point and you're still on 12, 1300 calories a day?

Maintaining when you should be, you should be losing still. And then you're gonna come off it and what's gonna happen? Your weight's gonna probably go back up again 'cause you'll be hungry and eating more. So, even though I've, I've started working with her over the last month and say, right, okay, we need to prepare for this.

So let's start strength training. Let's start getting your steps up. Let's get you into good habits for that side of things and we'll tackle. What happens when you come off the injections after? But I think it's gonna be some sort of cognitive behavior therapy for those people. But yeah, there are a lot that just, um, just take the injections 'cause it's a quick fix, but I don't believe in fad diets or quick fixes entirely.

What's your opinion on it?

Honestly, I don't know. I, um, my immediate like. Kind of initial reaction is it feels, it feels too good to be true. Um, I don't think that, I don't think that we understand the science enough and, and I don't think that we've looked into the potential long-term side effects enough. Um. So that worries me, but I'm also, I'm quite risk averse in those kind of situations anyway. That's a me thing rather than a, rather than a scientific thing. Um, I think the thing that bothers me is we seem to be after, after a while where body positivity and the reality that you could be healthy. And look different, like you didn't have to be kind of like a size four to be considered healthy. We went through a, we went through a phase where that seemed to be, that seemed to be kind of like the cultural discourse. Like people could be different sizes. You could look like, um, it, I can't say her name, Elona Maya, the rugby player, the American rugby player who's just come over here from, um, from the state she was in strictly come dancing. Um, yeah, so you could look like her and, um, and be feminine and be healthy. You could, um, you could run marathons and, and be in a bigger body and, and you could be bitter than someone who would fit into, um, a top shop size six. Um, we went through a phase of that, that that was kind of where we were heading. And I think since these drugs have come out and like hit the mainstream, I worry that we are going back to. is one aesthetic that is the accept, culturally accepted aesthetic. There is the one way of looking valuable and worthy. And that bothers me. Um, especially when you've got celebrities who are being paid to promote these things. Um, and then I think that there's, yeah, that's, there's a whole other element of like potential manipulation there.

Yeah, and, and I completely agree with you because you know, it was really lovely to see on social media all of the. The plus size if you like. Um, women who were wearing crop tops and shorts and they weren't super skinny. And it's like that's, they're healthy and that's the most important thing. And now I don't know why out of, it seems like out of nowhere these, these fat loss injections have, have just blown up.

Um, 'cause you would've thought people would've seen, you know, all this stuff on social media and, and just. Accepted that because that should, that's our reality. Like not everybody's a size six or an eight. It is just, it shouldn't be that way. As long as you are healthy and you're strong, then you're fit then.

I mean, I like curves. I think. I think women should have, we're curvy. That's just, that's how our bodies are meant to be. We're supposed to have fat on our stomach, you know, to cover It. Helps to cover our organs, our reproductive organs. That's a reason why. Even, you know, a lot of very slim women will have a bit of a pouch if you like, because it's supposed to be there, you know, we should have like, you know, nice round bums and, you know, it's just, it's natural, it's normal.

Um, and it's just, it's more of the mindset thing that's a little bit scary is I worry about the younger generation now thinking. That skinnier is better rather than healthy is better.

Yeah. 

And I spend a lot of time with my daughter. We work out together. I, you know, I let her play with my belly, you know, I make my belly talk.

She's like, make your belly talk. So I grab it, I get my belly button going. Um, because I don't wanna be sort of hiding away and thinking, oh, you know, she's gonna think I'm fat. Whereas it's, I'm not. I'm just, um. A normal girl. I'm strong, I'm fit. I'm not a size eight or 10, 12, depends where I shop.

Um, 

but I think it's just important to, you've got to love yourself for who you are because if you start messing around and thinking you're not good enough how you are, and that's why you've got to go and have these injections.

But this is, again, I, I still agree that the, the ones who are obese, who can't. Who can't, you know, it's, it's for, for, they need to have the injections 'cause otherwise they're gonna have major problems and it's a psychological issue. Completely agree with that. But for everyone else, not so much.

And I think if you are, if the other options are kind of surgery and all those kind of things, then, and honestly, like people can do whatever they want with their bodies as long as they're not hurting anyone else. Like, it's like it's your body, it's your choice. You can Yeah. Do whatever you want. Um, it, yeah, I think it's just, yeah, the cultural, there's no, there's no money to be made when people are happy with the way that they look. Um, and so and so, there are whole industries that are built on keeping women especially unhappy with the way that they look and the way that they feel because then we'll go out and spend all this money on all these different things. Regardless, regardless of what the things are like, whether we are back in the Cabbage Soup or the Special K Diet, or whether we're here on, on, kind of like majaro. I think that, that there are a lot of people who benefit from keeping us insecure and hungry.

It's not just women as well. The amount of men that are having these injections is, is very surprising.

Yeah, yeah. 

I spoke to someone. Up north. Um, he, he has his own clinic, so I, I want to talk to him to say like, if your clients are having the injections, do they know the importance as well of strength training?

Because obviously they're gonna be losing muscle mass too. And, and he's been on them himself and he said it's surprising the amount of men. So it's a very equal split. I think men and women who are doing this, which means. You would've thought it would just be women who are normally quite hung up on our weight.

But, um, but actually it's, it's guys too, and that's gotta come from somewhere as well. It's the insecurities from social media just seeing ripped, you know, people. Um, so it's, it is, yeah, it's a bit worrying. I'm not sure what's gonna happen after, but I think that the metabolism's gonna be messed up

because of this.

And people, when they come off it. I just, I just think it's gonna all start to go back on again. And you can't take them forever. They're far too expensive.

Yeah. Well, especially the prices have gone.

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so when you, like we've just been talking about in the, in the industry that you're in, you deal with a lot of people who do not feel fabulous about themselves

for whatever reason. Um, as well as, as well as I would imagine some who do and just wanna kind of like, take care of themselves a little bit more or do something fun. Um, how do you, how do you deal with that? Like, what do you do, for example, when you meet or start talking to a potential client? Um, how do you navigate kind of those, those feelings that they're dealing with? Mm-hmm.

The number one thing that they always say is that they want to lose weight. Um, and then it is, it's digging a little bit deeper. You know, why, why do you wanna lose weight? What's that gonna do to your life? How's that gonna enhance your life? You know, there's always a deeper reason for that and it's just, it's just working out.

'cause if, if someone just wants to lose weight. That's quite a surface, um, thing. So normally it is, there's always, um, deeper reasons, like they don't feel worthy or, you know, they've had some trauma in, in the past or their a relative is, you know, really poorly because of. X, Y, and Z and they don't want to, to be in that situation, or they can't run around with their kids and they feel embarrassed.

So once we kind of, I, I guess, isolate the, the real reason for it, it's easy to work from because then you are working from truth, you are working from a, you know, a place where it's all quite raw and you can really build up on that. So I guess a lot of the sessions are quite like a therapy session in a way sometimes.

Um. Because sometimes they don't even know the real reason, and it's asking these probing questions, which, um, they're like, oh yeah, you know, that kind of makes sense now. And it gives them more of a purpose and a reason to keep going and motivation, um, so that when we do start on their plan, I know exactly what they've done before and what have they tried and failed?

What are they doing now? Where do they wanna be? Then I know how I can adapt my style for them as well. Some people want me to be all over 'em every day, have you done this? What you eating? And others are just like, we'll just have our checking call once a week. Um, and, you know, they're quite self motivated, but I'll know whether that, whether that's true or not,

after we first speak to them.

So yeah, it's kind of a quite a, a complex sort of. There's no one size fits all basically. 'cause everybody is so different, different reasons for doing things and, um, it's, it's easier to keep them on track when I know where they've, where they've been and why they're, they want to do it.

Yeah. No, that makes sense. Okay. Um, how do you, how do you deal with that in your social media though, for example?

What deal with, uh, so when I'm putting up my social media posts.

Yeah, so when you, if you, um, obviously the surface thing is people wanna lose weight or be fitter or something like that. Um, but. We know that there are all these deeper, kind of like below the surface things. Do you talk about those things on your social media or do you stick to like kind of top line

I stick to top line because a lot of people don't recognize. Underneath one. So if I, if I did a post about, yeah. Do you wanna, um, you know, be fit to run around with, with your kids and, um, they, they would probably be like, eh, but if I said, you know, like, I normally will go, yeah. Do you wanna lose weight and build muscle and feel more energized and feel more confident?

That's what, what speaks to them. 'cause then when we do have a call, it's like, okay, well why 'cause of this? Okay, well, why, why, why, why, why, why? I'm like a 3-year-old. Why, why, why? Um, and yeah, so you, you kind of get that initial, this is, this is. What you, what you want, but let's figure out like what does that mean to you?

Why is that important to you? And then we can look at putting together a program in a specific way that's gonna make sure that you get that and understand why you want that.

Yeah, it's quite similar. To the way that I will, yeah. Talk to a lot of clients like it is, it's about finding out what your clients want and selling them that, but then giving them what they need actually need,

Yeah.

not exactly what they want. Yeah.

Yeah. And I, and I'm the same with, um, I know what I want, like, you know, with regards to the business. I know I know what I want, but I don't know. Because when you're a business owner, you wear so many hats for everything. You're a track of all trades, but master of none as I enlist, you know, specific people.

So, you know, a a a business coach, that's what I want. You just, you tell me what to do to make it happen. An accountant, you just sort this stuff out 'cause I don't like it. Um, and, and that's where people. You know, in life, would you, you should always do the same. I think there should be a coach for, for everything.

You know, for fitness. There's so much noise out there. There's so many different programs. YouTube ones, Instagram ones. You've got these ridiculous influencers who are like early twenties ripped, doing these stupid combination exercises that just, it's not for people like, I guess, and I think I did a post on it the other day.

Rather than doing a lunge in and then at the bottom into a bicep curl, then you step back up and then you do a shoulder press, and then you do a deadlift with the same weight as one move. What's the point of that? You've got to

break it all down and do it differently. 'cause you'll use different weight for each one.

So it's way more effective. You know, it's just stuff like that that is just like why? It's just for the. Likes and the, and the follows.

It's just for the content.

Yeah. So I like, you've gotta ship it back to the basics. The basics work. The basics always work. Um, so I think I went off on a tangent now and I 

I love tangents. Tangents are my favorite things. Uh, for people who, um, are interested in what you're doing, um, maybe want to, um, explore coaching with you or just wanna come and find you and say hi. Um, where can they find you?

So my Instagram is at Laura Caddy Lifts and they can pop me a message there or they can WhatsApp me, uh, on oh 7 8 7 1 4 4 1 6 9 1. Or they can email me as well, Laura caddy lift@gmail.com. Okay.

Um, all of those will be in the show notes. Um, Laura, thank you so much for chatting with me today. It was an absolute pleasure. I very much appreciate you taking the time.

Aw, thank you for having me on. It's been brilliant. Thank you.