{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":14.32,"body":"[MUSIC]"},{"startTime":14.32,"endTime":17.84,"body":"Welcome back to another episode of Questions with Crocker with me, Dr. Crocker."},{"startTime":17.84,"endTime":18.8,"body":"My husband Shane."},{"startTime":18.8,"endTime":20.32,"body":"\u003e\u003e Who is here and super excited."},{"startTime":20.32,"endTime":22.32,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yay! I love that positivity."},{"startTime":22.32,"endTime":22.8,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yes, that's me."},{"startTime":22.8,"endTime":23.52,"body":"\u003e\u003e Thank you for bringing it."},{"startTime":23.52,"endTime":25.84,"body":"And then we have Dr. Sydney with us."},{"startTime":25.84,"endTime":26.32,"body":"\u003e\u003e Hi."},{"startTime":26.32,"endTime":27.52,"body":"\u003e\u003e Do you want me to do your last name?"},{"startTime":27.52,"endTime":28.48,"body":"I'm sorry."},{"startTime":28.48,"endTime":29.28,"body":"\u003e\u003e No, that's fine."},{"startTime":29.28,"endTime":30.0,"body":"\u003e\u003e Are you sure?"},{"startTime":30.0,"endTime":30.56,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yeah."},{"startTime":30.56,"endTime":31.68,"body":"\u003e\u003e Okay. All right."},{"startTime":31.68,"endTime":32.64,"body":"\u003e\u003e Introduce yourself."},{"startTime":32.64,"endTime":33.76,"body":"Give us your whole name."},{"startTime":33.76,"endTime":34.88,"body":"Tell us where you're from."},{"startTime":34.88,"endTime":36.32,"body":"Give us all the info."},{"startTime":36.32,"endTime":37.68,"body":"\u003e\u003e Okay."},{"startTime":37.68,"endTime":40.24,"body":"Hi. I'm Dr. Sydney Poe Guard."},{"startTime":40.24,"endTime":43.52,"body":"I am from Orange County, Southern California."},{"startTime":43.52,"endTime":46.32,"body":"And I'm an exotic vet."},{"startTime":46.32,"endTime":47.52,"body":"You are an exotic vet."},{"startTime":47.52,"endTime":50.0,"body":"You were a very cool exotic vet."},{"startTime":50.0,"endTime":54.56,"body":"And we met through social media because your pictures and videos are amazing."},{"startTime":54.56,"endTime":56.64,"body":"I love seeing what you're doing."},{"startTime":56.64,"endTime":61.36,"body":"I see exotics very infrequently in the ER and it is a lot in overwhelming."},{"startTime":61.36,"endTime":62.24,"body":"And you make it look..."},{"startTime":62.24,"endTime":66.56,"body":"\u003e\u003e We have a lizard because of somebody being an exotic person."},{"startTime":66.56,"endTime":69.04,"body":"\u003e\u003e We have a lizard because your daughter won a one."},{"startTime":69.04,"endTime":69.36,"body":"That's..."},{"startTime":69.36,"endTime":69.76,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yeah."},{"startTime":69.76,"endTime":70.8,"body":"\u003e\u003e We have a bearded dragon."},{"startTime":70.8,"endTime":71.36,"body":"\u003e\u003e A bearded dragon."},{"startTime":71.36,"endTime":72.64,"body":"\u003e\u003e They're actually a little different."},{"startTime":72.64,"endTime":72.88,"body":"\u003e\u003e I love that."},{"startTime":72.88,"endTime":73.84,"body":"\u003e\u003e So, I love that."},{"startTime":73.84,"endTime":77.68,"body":"But you do make it seem really fun and you do a lot of educational videos."},{"startTime":77.68,"endTime":79.76,"body":"So that's how I first saw you."},{"startTime":79.76,"endTime":83.12,"body":"And then I met you in person and realized how delightful and wonderful you were."},{"startTime":83.12,"endTime":83.76,"body":"\u003e\u003e Oh my gosh."},{"startTime":83.76,"endTime":84.48,"body":"\u003e\u003e Thank you."},{"startTime":84.48,"endTime":88.56,"body":"\u003e\u003e I was very excited that we are here at Western Veterinary Conference and we get to talk in person."},{"startTime":88.56,"endTime":89.04,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yeah."},{"startTime":89.04,"endTime":95.52,"body":"\u003e\u003e And the way this podcast is set up is we get questions from people on social media and then we ask you about them."},{"startTime":95.52,"endTime":98.0,"body":"I do want to go a little bit into this."},{"startTime":98.0,"endTime":102.4,"body":"We'll probably be out in about three months or so."},{"startTime":102.4,"endTime":106.4,"body":"So do you want to talk at all about some of the plans that you have working?"},{"startTime":106.4,"endTime":107.28,"body":"\u003e\u003e I do."},{"startTime":107.28,"endTime":107.68,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yeah."},{"startTime":107.68,"endTime":108.8,"body":"We're good to talk about those."},{"startTime":108.8,"endTime":109.2,"body":"\u003e\u003e Okay."},{"startTime":109.2,"endTime":109.68,"body":"\u003e\u003e Good."},{"startTime":109.68,"endTime":112.48,"body":"\u003e\u003e I didn't want to ask any surprises."},{"startTime":112.48,"endTime":113.28,"body":"\u003e\u003e No, we're good."},{"startTime":113.28,"endTime":118.4,"body":"So Shane and I own a small animal general practice and you are venturing into practice ownership."},{"startTime":118.4,"endTime":120.0,"body":"\u003e\u003e I am surprised."},{"startTime":120.0,"endTime":120.88,"body":"\u003e\u003e Yay."},{"startTime":120.88,"endTime":125.36,"body":"\u003e\u003e And I'll actually be open in about three, four months."},{"startTime":125.36,"endTime":129.52,"body":"So I'm in construction right now for my first startup."},{"startTime":129.52,"endTime":130.8,"body":"\u003e\u003e Exactly."},{"startTime":130.8,"endTime":133.6,"body":"\u003e\u003e I mean, very stressful."},{"startTime":133.6,"endTime":139.6,"body":"Like right before this, I'm like emailing my contractor and my 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hard."},{"startTime":161.6,"endTime":162.32,"body":"\u003e\u003e It's expensive, it's hard."},{"startTime":162.32,"endTime":167.2,"body":"I actually had another lease space that fell through and then I found the one I'm in now,"},{"startTime":167.2,"endTime":171.12,"body":"which in hindsight was like so meant to be."},{"startTime":171.12,"endTime":175.28,"body":"But in the moment it's like, the world is falling apart."},{"startTime":175.28,"endTime":178.16,"body":"But yeah, it's just a really long process."},{"startTime":178.16,"endTime":182.32,"body":"I think everyone, it takes a lot longer than everyone realizes."},{"startTime":182.32,"endTime":183.52,"body":"And I know people say that."},{"startTime":183.52,"endTime":184.88,"body":"But like when you're in it, you're like,"},{"startTime":184.88,"endTime":190.08,"body":"the permits, this requirement, that requirement, the insurance,"},{"startTime":190.08,"endTime":192.08,"body":"all of it, it takes so 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much?"},{"startTime":223.44,"endTime":225.52,"body":"Why is this so important you need to go through all this?"},{"startTime":226.48,"endTime":230.4,"body":"Because I want to change that, Med."},{"startTime":230.4,"endTime":234.48,"body":"That's like, and I know I'm not going to change the whole profession or anything like that,"},{"startTime":234.48,"endTime":236.08,"body":"but maybe one step at a time."},{"startTime":236.08,"endTime":240.8,"body":"I have seen a good amount of things in my career so far as a mixotic set."},{"startTime":240.8,"endTime":248.88,"body":"And things that I don't like, things that I maybe don't align with how I want to practice medicine."},{"startTime":248.88,"endTime":250.16,"body":"I just want to do something different."},{"startTime":250.16,"endTime":254.24,"body":"I want to do something that it's not necessarily something that's never been seen before."},{"startTime":254.24,"endTime":261.12,"body":"You work in a hospital that is similar to what I'm doing 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questions."},{"startTime":512.72,"endTime":513.68,"body":"Don't need questions from him."},{"startTime":513.68,"endTime":515.84,"body":"I'm going to shut you down on that one."},{"startTime":515.84,"endTime":516.56,"body":"For sure."},{"startTime":516.56,"endTime":518.32,"body":"I've got a lot of questions."},{"startTime":518.32,"endTime":519.92,"body":"They're brewing up here now."},{"startTime":519.92,"endTime":521.6,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":521.6,"endTime":522.96,"body":"So, like poisonous snakes?"},{"startTime":522.96,"endTime":524.8,"body":"venomous."},{"startTime":524.8,"endTime":525.6,"body":"venomous."},{"startTime":525.6,"endTime":526.8,"body":"You don't say poisonous."},{"startTime":526.8,"endTime":529.68,"body":"But yeah, I worked with rattlesnakes."},{"startTime":529.68,"endTime":533.12,"body":"She's worked with like, okay, let's,"},{"startTime":533.12,"endTime":536.08,"body":"what is lion's tigers, bears, literally, all of 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Do you see it?"},{"startTime":1430.96,"endTime":1433.28,"body":"How many GP practices are seeing exotics?"},{"startTime":1433.28,"endTime":1437.12,"body":"In my area, probably five."},{"startTime":1437.12,"endTime":1440.4,"body":"I mean, they call all the list of what we say."},{"startTime":1440.4,"endTime":1448.56,"body":"In our area, there's probably about three to five that are like GP type practices."},{"startTime":1448.56,"endTime":1452.96,"body":"But not all of them even see reptiles."},{"startTime":1452.96,"endTime":1457.04,"body":"So, it's almost like small mammals, and then not like birds or reptiles."},{"startTime":1457.04,"endTime":1460.96,"body":"Some people, or they'll see, a lot of people might see like rabbits."},{"startTime":1460.96,"endTime":1463.28,"body":"I know some people that will do rabbits and dogs and cats."},{"startTime":1463.28,"endTime":1468.72,"body":"But it's interesting because the term exotics does not mean everything."},{"startTime":1468.72,"endTime":1473.2,"body":"Right. So, people definitely need to be aware of like who in their area does see the certain"},{"startTime":1473.2,"endTime":1478.56,"body":"type of animal they have and not assume that if someone says they see exotics, it actually means"},{"startTime":1478.56,"endTime":1484.48,"body":"like snakes specifically are a whole nother thing outside of I feel like even like bitter dragons"},{"startTime":1484.48,"endTime":1486.72,"body":"and whatnot. So, for me."},{"startTime":1486.72,"endTime":1487.92,"body":"Yeah, specifically."},{"startTime":1487.92,"endTime":1490.4,"body":"Not for you, maybe."},{"startTime":1490.4,"endTime":1495.76,"body":"Not for me, but I do think, but yeah, there's the more common ones that people are more comfortable"},{"startTime":1495.76,"endTime":1500.96,"body":"with and then there's ones that I think you have to especially have a team that is comfortable with."},{"startTime":1500.96,"endTime":1504.72,"body":"Absolutely. And that's the biggest mistake I see is someone saying like,"},{"startTime":1504.72,"endTime":1509.12,"body":"\"I'll do exotics, but not having the proper equipment, the proper training to restrain them,"},{"startTime":1509.12,"endTime":1513.52,"body":"and really understanding what they're getting into.\" And then it's just a disservice to"},{"startTime":1515.2,"endTime":1518.4,"body":"the pet, because you're not doing what you should be doing."},{"startTime":1518.4,"endTime":1519.28,"body":"Yeah, absolutely."},{"startTime":1519.28,"endTime":1528.32,"body":"I do have, so from the practice on our side of things, do people pay a decent amount"},{"startTime":1528.32,"endTime":1534.24,"body":"for their exotics or do you get the same variety that we get of the people who say,"},{"startTime":1534.24,"endTime":1539.6,"body":"like, do everything? And money's not an issue and then the people who are like,"},{"startTime":1540.64,"endTime":1547.6,"body":"do treat for the treatable or put them to sleep because this guinea pig costs 30 bucks and I'll"},{"startTime":1547.6,"endTime":1550.0,"body":"go get another one. Yes. So, what is the variety?"},{"startTime":1550.0,"endTime":1551.04,"body":"Boat. Yeah."},{"startTime":1551.04,"endTime":1557.2,"body":"Kind of the same thing. 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homey."},{"startTime":1755.96,"endTime":1756.96,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1756.96,"endTime":1757.96,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1757.96,"endTime":1762.36,"body":"Well, and so your architects you worked with are amazing and I've seen the renderings and"},{"startTime":1762.36,"endTime":1763.36,"body":"the animal."},{"startTime":1763.36,"endTime":1765.2,"body":"Yes, it looks incredible."},{"startTime":1765.2,"endTime":1769.04,"body":"So I'm assuming you'll eventually have a social media account and people will be able to"},{"startTime":1769.04,"endTime":1770.04,"body":"follow you on that."},{"startTime":1770.04,"endTime":1771.04,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":1771.04,"endTime":1772.04,"body":"It will be."},{"startTime":1772.04,"endTime":1775.04,"body":"It is coming shortly."},{"startTime":1775.04,"endTime":1776.04,"body":"I get it."},{"startTime":1776.04,"endTime":1778.64,"body":"It's a lot of work to get all that started and to do 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then"},{"startTime":1811.92,"endTime":1815.2,"body":"like right now as I'm doing relief work right now."},{"startTime":1815.2,"endTime":1821.24,"body":"So I'm still seeing a dog dogs cats, pigs, sometimes small ruminants as well."},{"startTime":1821.24,"endTime":1824.64,"body":"It's kind of all over the place."},{"startTime":1824.64,"endTime":1826.56,"body":"Are you doing surgery or are you doing?"},{"startTime":1826.56,"endTime":1828.32,"body":"I am doing my surgery as well."},{"startTime":1828.32,"endTime":1835.24,"body":"But so I guess I'll go back to when I was just like in one practice."},{"startTime":1835.24,"endTime":1836.24,"body":"That's a little bit easier."},{"startTime":1836.24,"endTime":1841.36,"body":"I'd have like a surgery morning where I do space and neuters on rabbits, guinea pigs, dogs,"},{"startTime":1841.36,"endTime":1842.72,"body":"cats, whatever it was."},{"startTime":1842.72,"endTime":1849.08,"body":"And then appointments all afternoon that were wellness or sick 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carrots."},{"startTime":2015.64,"endTime":2017.92,"body":"They shouldn't be eating carrots, even though bugs, bunny, did."},{"startTime":2017.92,"endTime":2020.48,"body":"So even for snack, even for a tree."},{"startTime":2020.48,"endTime":2021.48,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2021.48,"endTime":2027.44,"body":"Maybe like a tiny piece once a week as a treat or break it up and use it as like a little"},{"startTime":2027.44,"endTime":2030.36,"body":"training treat, right?"},{"startTime":2030.36,"endTime":2031.56,"body":"But no, but like that's it."},{"startTime":2031.56,"endTime":2034.08,"body":"Like maybe maybe at most one baby carrot a week."},{"startTime":2034.08,"endTime":2035.08,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2035.08,"endTime":2038.32,"body":"I get my bearded dragon blueberries occasionally."},{"startTime":2038.32,"endTime":2041.56,"body":"That's after she gets like a little, yeah, little soak."},{"startTime":2041.56,"endTime":2042.56,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":2042.56,"endTime":2043.56,"body":"She gets a blueberry too."},{"startTime":2043.56,"endTime":2046.36,"body":"A bearded dragon can eat a small amount of fruit and that's totally fine."},{"startTime":2046.36,"endTime":2047.36,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2047.36,"endTime":2048.36,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2048.36,"endTime":2050.36,"body":"I wanted to make sure I was getting like the check in the class."},{"startTime":2050.36,"endTime":2054.92,"body":"And actually we've had her forever and how often have you held her?"},{"startTime":2054.92,"endTime":2055.92,"body":"I don't look at it."},{"startTime":2055.92,"endTime":2056.92,"body":"I don't look at it."},{"startTime":2056.92,"endTime":2057.92,"body":"I don't look at it."},{"startTime":2057.92,"endTime":2058.92,"body":"I don't like."},{"startTime":2058.92,"endTime":2059.92,"body":"He is not."},{"startTime":2059.92,"endTime":2062.52,"body":"It brings like she brings some out."},{"startTime":2062.52,"endTime":2066.04,"body":"She so it's so funny because it's so different."},{"startTime":2066.04,"endTime":2067.2,"body":"But we love our Lucy."},{"startTime":2067.2,"endTime":2068.2,"body":"We love our bread and dragon."},{"startTime":2068.2,"endTime":2069.6,"body":"It is especially so."},{"startTime":2069.6,"endTime":2070.6,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2070.6,"endTime":2074.52,"body":"Any other take home things that you want people to know about being an exotic Fed?"},{"startTime":2074.52,"endTime":2075.92,"body":"Why do you love it so much?"},{"startTime":2075.92,"endTime":2076.92,"body":"The variety, obviously."},{"startTime":2076.92,"endTime":2077.92,"body":"The variety."},{"startTime":2077.92,"endTime":2079.4,"body":"I love the species."},{"startTime":2079.4,"endTime":2084.2,"body":"I love that I get to work with such unique species every day."},{"startTime":2084.2,"endTime":2087.32,"body":"Like, sometimes things that people have never heard of."},{"startTime":2087.32,"endTime":2090.8,"body":"I love coming home and telling my fiancee like, oh, I saw this animal today."},{"startTime":2090.8,"endTime":2093.32,"body":"He's like, I've literally never heard of that in my life."},{"startTime":2093.32,"endTime":2094.32,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2094.32,"endTime":2095.88,"body":"I'll probably I should call Shane and tell him."},{"startTime":2095.88,"endTime":2096.88,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":2096.88,"endTime":2097.88,"body":"Send him my daily."},{"startTime":2097.88,"endTime":2098.88,"body":"That's true."},{"startTime":2098.88,"endTime":2101.48,"body":"And he'll be like, I have no idea what that is."},{"startTime":2101.48,"endTime":2102.56,"body":"No, but I love that."},{"startTime":2102.56,"endTime":2103.56,"body":"I love."},{"startTime":2103.56,"endTime":2104.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2104.56,"endTime":2111.64,"body":"Yeah, the the I love being able to make bonds with these animals that like you said earlier,"},{"startTime":2111.64,"endTime":2116.64,"body":"you don't always think that you can bond with them the same way as dogs and cats."},{"startTime":2116.64,"endTime":2118.96,"body":"But you can and I love that aspect of it."},{"startTime":2118.96,"endTime":2124.44,"body":"And also just in general, like, don't be I don't want people to be so afraid of exotic animal"},{"startTime":2124.44,"endTime":2125.44,"body":"medicine."},{"startTime":2125.44,"endTime":2130.48,"body":"It's like, it's developed this like taboo scary thing because it's like this bird."},{"startTime":2130.48,"endTime":2132.6,"body":"It's it's tail bobbing."},{"startTime":2132.6,"endTime":2133.6,"body":"I can't touch it."},{"startTime":2133.6,"endTime":2135.44,"body":"It's going to die."},{"startTime":2135.44,"endTime":2142.2,"body":"It is can be scary at first, but it doesn't have to be like there's definitely things that"},{"startTime":2142.2,"endTime":2145.88,"body":"are very similar in dog and cat medicine."},{"startTime":2145.88,"endTime":2149.76,"body":"Like, they're not that they're still an animal like it's still you can still use some of"},{"startTime":2149.76,"endTime":2154.6,"body":"the same foundation to concepts tools to treat them as you do dog and cat."},{"startTime":2154.6,"endTime":2158.6,"body":"Well, and there's a lot of really great like resources out there and training and you can"},{"startTime":2158.6,"endTime":2159.6,"body":"get better at it."},{"startTime":2159.6,"endTime":2160.6,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":2160.6,"endTime":2162.16,"body":"Just like everything else in our profession."},{"startTime":2162.16,"endTime":2163.16,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":2163.16,"endTime":2166.04,"body":"There is exotics con there's tracks at every conference."},{"startTime":2166.04,"endTime":2167.04,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":2167.04,"endTime":2169.0,"body":"There's a webinar or so or you can message me."},{"startTime":2169.0,"endTime":2170.0,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2170.0,"endTime":2171.0,"body":"There you go."},{"startTime":2171.0,"endTime":2172.0,"body":"I'm always happy to help."},{"startTime":2172.0,"endTime":2173.0,"body":"So that's a great point."},{"startTime":2173.0,"endTime":2176.28,"body":"How can people reach out to you and how can they follow along on your journey?"},{"startTime":2176.28,"endTime":2177.28,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2177.28,"endTime":2178.28,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":2178.28,"endTime":2185.4,"body":"They can find me at doctor Sydney undersword DVM on Instagram, TikTok, any platform and"},{"startTime":2185.4,"endTime":2189.12,"body":"they can follow my clinic as well."},{"startTime":2189.12,"endTime":2192.8,"body":"I love the veterinary collective love it at fauna vet."},{"startTime":2192.8,"endTime":2193.8,"body":"Sounds very, very fancy."},{"startTime":2193.8,"endTime":2194.8,"body":"Very California."},{"startTime":2194.8,"endTime":2195.8,"body":"I like it."},{"startTime":2195.8,"endTime":2196.8,"body":"I like it."},{"startTime":2196.8,"endTime":2197.8,"body":"Very California."},{"startTime":2197.8,"endTime":2199.8,"body":"No, the clinic is going to be amazing."},{"startTime":2199.8,"endTime":2201.4,"body":"You're going to be an amazing practice owner."},{"startTime":2201.4,"endTime":2205.8,"body":"I'm so excited for you and y'all should definitely follow along on her journey."},{"startTime":2205.8,"endTime":2206.8,"body":"Shane, you have any other questions?"},{"startTime":2206.8,"endTime":2210.36,"body":"I've got a lot of questions, but I feel like I'm getting chest outs from my great questions"},{"startTime":2210.36,"endTime":2211.36,"body":"over there."},{"startTime":2211.36,"endTime":2212.36,"body":"No, it's been great."},{"startTime":2212.36,"endTime":2213.36,"body":"I love the engaged bit."},{"startTime":2213.36,"endTime":2219.0,"body":"So we will we'll shut it down and then we can let you ask more questions because it's"},{"startTime":2219.0,"endTime":2220.0,"body":"getting to be late."},{"startTime":2220.0,"endTime":2222.08,"body":"But we do appreciate everyone listening."},{"startTime":2222.08,"endTime":2225.08,"body":"If you want to leave a review on Apple or Spotify, that'd be great."},{"startTime":2225.08,"endTime":2226.08,"body":"We love your feedback."},{"startTime":2226.08,"endTime":2228.64,"body":"We love your questions at questions with Crocker."},{"startTime":2228.64,"endTime":2229.64,"body":"Sydney, thanks for being here."},{"startTime":2229.64,"endTime":2230.64,"body":"I really appreciate you."},{"startTime":2230.64,"endTime":2231.64,"body":"Thanks for having me."},{"startTime":2231.64,"endTime":2232.6,"body":"And you guys have a wonderful day."},{"startTime":2232.6,"endTime":2242.6,"body":"[MUSIC]"}]}