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Phillies Offense SPUTTERS In Series Loss vs Brewers

Jay Holahan Season 4 Episode 44

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For a week, the Phillies' offense looked like they were turning a corner, and then they got shut out in 2 out of 3 games vs the Brewers. Jacob Misiorowski had 15 Ks and faced the minimum on Friday. Trea Turner has continued to struggle. Hear from Turner and Don Mattingly on Turner's struggles. #RingTheBell #PhiladelphiaPhillies #MLBonX 

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Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode here on the Six Ten Podcast. I'm your host, Jay Holohan, back here on this Sunday evening as the Philadelphia Phillies drop two of three to the Milwaukee Brewers, and they do it in such a subdued fashion. The Phillies that, and we'll go over it, got absolutely crushed by Mizarowski Friday evening. I mean, Mizarowski was the most as perfect in an unperfect outing you could get. I mean, because he wasn't perfect overall. It shows that he faced the minimum, 27 batters up, 27, you know, outs, but Bryce Harper grounds into a double play after Kyle Schwarber had the single and had Kyle Schwarber flew out, obviously it's a perfect game for Mizorowski. Now there's no doubt there was no doubt in my mind when I looked at what was being sent to the rubber for both teams, that the Brewers weren't gonna win this game. I I mean it was, you know, very obvious that the Brewers, when they send Jacob Mesurowski out there, they anticipate they're going to win. They have a very good chance at winning. But when you look at the opposite side and the other team is starting an opener, well, unless the baseball gods decide, you know what, today's gonna be one of those nights where you think it makes sense and it just it's not gonna make sense, well, it made sense on Friday night. That's the best way to put it. But w what was just you know, a hundred and five coming at you, fifteen strikeouts for the Phillies hitters, he allows just one hit, no walks. I mean, this guy is twenty-four years old, and he is pitching like I mean, he is pitching like the best pitcher, not only in the game of baseball right now, but he's pitching like among some of the game's best starters we've ever seen. I mean, let's just face it. The run that he's been on here throughout the first half of the season has just been nothing short of incredible, and he will expect to have, and everyone will expect to have some big time success here moving forward. Now, again, was I surprised that the Phillies lost that game? No. But uh was I shocked that their offense looked that putrid? Absolutely. And another really puzzling piece to all of this is Andrew Payner went out there and just, again, you know, they're using an opener, and we'll talk about that in a second, but Andrew Painter, it's very obvious he has the stuff. He's got some swing and miss to him, and you expect that out of the top price. I mean, I would hope he would have stuff and he does, but he is not ready. He does not have the mental fortitude out there. When the three-run Homer was hit, and I'm trying to in the fifth inning. So in the bottom of the fifth inning, when Jake Bowers Homers with two outs, when the first base runner reaches in that in that inning, and I'm trying to remember and see who it was that reached base, it was a two-out double by Bryce Tarang. Remember, it's a two-nothing game. It's a two-nothing it's a two-nothing game, and with two outs and a three-two pitch, Tarang doubles. And this told me pretty much all I needed to know about Andrew Painter. Because he comes set he's he comes set on the mound, he looks back at second, he looks at the plate, looks at Contreras, then looks back at second, then goes to the plate, and he's just missing. He walked William Contreras on five pitches. The five balls he threw, or four balls he threw, were weren't even close. Comes up and in with a slider, fastball up and in, slider way away, and then a slider in the dirt. And when I tell you about him looking back at second, looking at Tarang, now Tarang steals third. Well, that doesn't really matter because you can't score in this inning unless you record a hit, unless, you know, one of the infielders of the Phillies decides to record an error and whip a ball past Bryce Harper or something like that, or, you know, something happens from the Phillies defenders. And for Andrew Painter to be so concerned with what's going on at second just kind of lets you know, he is so far in his head at this point with runners on. And I brought up you know, the whole Gavin Floyd and Spencer Howard thing, I think I brought that up two episodes ago. Aaron Rowan, when Aaron Rowan that night against the Mets made that catch up against, you know, the fence and broke his nose, he told a story once where he was out in batting practice and they were doing or not batting practice, they were in their stretches. And he was talking to Gavin Floyd, and he said, Dude, you are going to be just fine in this game. You are going to be just fine in the bigs if you can just avoid your blow-up inning because you've got the stuff and you have all the tools capable, you've got the poise, you've got the makeup, but you just need to, when runners are on, you need to, you know, essentially relax. You need to find some mental spot in your head that you can go to so you're not overly concerned about what's at first or second or third. Because if you notice, when Aaron Rowan watched the clip of him making the catch, the bases are loaded, and it's like the top of the second, and he got out of, he said, if he could just get out of those jams, he would be fine. I'm telling you, it's the same thing with Andrew Painter. It's the same exact thing. So we'll see ultimately how he tries to get out of it. Now, the next day, John Smoltz, when the broadcast was on FS1, Smoltz mentioned that, you know, I hate the fact that they used an opener for him the day before because what kind of a message does that send to the kid? And I tend to agree with that, although I'm sure to an extent there's explanation being done because of strategy. But at the same time, he's got to figure it out. And I know we're at where where we are looking for a postseason spot and trying to win a series against the Brewers and try and match Mizarowski, and maybe we can throw Milwaukee off guard. You know what, as you saw from that series, and what you saw from that first inning, throwing Tanner Banks out there, it likely would not have mattered. And the problem with the Phillies again, in this Andrew Painter situation, they have no one to turn to. There is no depth down there. There's no Mick Abel that you can call up. There's no Bailey Falter down there that you can bring up and have a spot start. There is nothing down there that is going to save them right now. And after the game, Don Mattingley, he spoke more about Andrew Painter.

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I was actually happy with Paint the way he threw the ball tonight. I felt like he got a lot of he threw the ball a lot better tonight than I've seen him throw it. Honestly, you've seen aggression. I thought he had a lot more swings where he pinch guys, a lot more swinging missing there with that. So he did a nice job tonight. I like the way you do it. I think it's important. I think we gotta look at like look at a lot of guys. It's like you want to just keep getting better, right? And we've we've seen maybe the start of him getting better. I think he's uh he's uh he's trying to attack uh with his best stuff, and that's what we've we've gotta ask is not to be out there worrying about what your pitches are doing or your mechanics, anything like that, just be on the attack with your stuff. Uh I think we got that time. So uh for me, and you can look at it however you want, you can see the results or whatever, and and say give up some runs, but for me it's a step in the right direction.

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So something that was always the talking point when Rob Thompson would step to the microphone was it was always, oh, he's so boring, he never, you know, he never gets upset at the players, he never does this, he never does that. You don't really hear that too much out of Don Mattingley. And granted, Andrew Painter is so damn young, and he's struggling so much, would it really do him any good to get blasted in the media? No. And I think Mattingley knows that. But as you'll listen throughout here, as I got a couple more audio to play for you, he doesn't really do that to that many players. Even the guys, the veteran guys who could use a kick in the you know what, he's not really doing that. And it was something that, you know, because the Yankees fans have wanted him to take over Aaron Boone's spot, they've wanted Boone gone for the better part of this entire decade. Hell, even when they lost to the Dodgers a couple years ago in the World Series, Boone needed to be canned then. And they wanted him replaced with Don Madding. They've wanted Don Mattingley in the Bronx for a long time. And the biggest thing against Aaron Boone is the fact that he does not throw his players under the bus. Not many do. Pat Murphy for the Brewers actually does, but not many do. And won't sink they won't single guys out. They'll throw the team and they'll say, hey, you know, we gotta pitch better, we gotta, you know, we gotta run the bases better, we're playing sloppy baseball, this, that, and the third. But it's rare to hear a guy, and that's why it's you know, your your ears perk up, your eyebrows raise when you see when you hear a manager throw a player individually under the bus. But you didn't hear that out of Mattingley, and again, I it would have done more more harm than good. But after the, I mean, worst performance I've seen from the Phillies offense since they got no hit by the New York Mets a few years back, the Phillies go out there on Saturday and they put together arguably their best offensive performance of the year. Seventeen hits, season high in hits, so you only get one the day before you get seventeen. Everyone who appeared in the game, or just about everyone who appeared, everyone who started, just about everyone who appeared in the game, Justin Crawford was the lone player who didn't, and you know, Justin Crawford's not having you want to talk about Andrew Painter needing to be sent down? Well, Justin Crawford could be coming to that point as well, but um he was the only one who didn't reach base, regardless. The Phillies get a big lift from their catcher, JT Rio Muto, with a three-run blast to put the Phillies up 7-3 there. Um after they go up 1-0 on the Edmundo Sosa, Oppo, Homer, Stott, RBI double, JT RBI single, and then in the bottom of the fourth after pitching three great innings from Nola. Gives up a two-run blast to Garrett Mitchell, solo home run to Jackson Churillo with one out in the bottom of the fifth to tie it up at three, top sixth with runners at first and second, Bryson Stott, RBI double, and a JT remove to a three-run blast to make it seven three. Bryce Harper heads on with the sack fly, it's eight three. Now, you're feeling pretty good about things, and hey, for where he is right now in his career and with the season he's been having, that was a solid start by Aaron Ola. You know, giving up three runs. Now, did he give you tremendous length? No, absolutely not. It would have been great if he could have gone sixth or pitched into the seventh, but that didn't happen. But hey, he kept he limited the damage, and the Phillies gave that bullpen a five-run lead. And here was JT Romuto on the offensive performance.

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Got off to a good start. I mean, we put up some runs pretty early. There's a really good lineup over there. They did a good job fighting back, had really good at bats. Um obviously the game got a little closer than we would have liked it to, but Sunway went back like after one for the night.

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I'm sure, but hey, you know, they did not go up against any slouches out there in Milwaukee. Milwaukee's got pitching. We think the Phillies have pitching. Milwaukee's got also has pitching. Now, will Milwaukee's pitching be there against the Los Angeles Dodgers in a big series? I don't know. We came to find out last year, wasn't the case. I don't know if the same will be said this year. Time may potentially tell on that. Because here's the thing. You know, Milwaukee has this great record. Milwaukee, obviously, you know, as they mentioned a few times on the broadcast today, you know, they don't look to just hit big, thundering home runs. You know, they're completely different from the Phillies. They don't look to slug as much. They've got one guy who really is a home run hitter and Christian Yellich, and his career's kind of slowed down in the last better part of two or three seasons, regardless, though, they're able to put up runs. They're one of the best offenses in baseball. And they've got a tremendous starting staff. Bullpen's okay, a little shaky. But whose isn't, obviously. But am I willing to sit here and go, man, the Milwaukee Brewers are it, there they gotta be the team that if any team can beat the Dodgers, it's them. I don't think so. I I I Milwaukee, the central teams in the American League and the National League, I'll believe it when I see it. The last team that actually looked like, and deservingly so, obviously, a team that could contend for a World Series title was the Chicago Cubs. Those Joe Madden Chicago Cubs teams. Since then, no team, I don't care it's the American League Central, I don't care if it's the National League Central, none of them have looked up to par as a true threat for the pennant. So I just I just can't give it to Milwaukee. They gotta I got I'll believe it when I see it, kind of thing. I'll have faith when I see it. When they go up against the Dodgers in a seven-game series, I'll believe it when I see it. But regardless, the bullpen for the Phillies was given a five-run lead. We get to the bottom of the seventh, Jose Alvarado allows a runner on, then he gives up a two-run blast to Jackson Cherio. Terrific. Now, it's eight five to the top of the eighth with runners at the corners, and Brandon Marsh delivers with a RBI single to play Bryce Harper. Alright, back to a four-run game, and you see Brad Keller's coming in. Listen. I would give if if I were to give a player prop bet or whatever that they do, here's a player prop bet that you can that I think nine times out of ten is going to hit. No pun intended, but the leadoff hitter facing Brad Keller in whatever inning he's coming in for a clean inning, where he's got to get three outs, the leadoff hitter gets on base. Via a hit or a walk. That guy, eleven million dollars this year, and twenty-two for the next two, this year included, and next year. For him to come into a game against a team that listen, if you were gonna tell me during spring training that we bolstered the bullpen by bringing this guy in, and then you're going up against a team that's amongst the National League's best, and he's got a four-run lead to protect, and he's walking the ballpark and the bases are loaded with nobody out. I'm sorry, I gotta wonder, you know, where is your head at? I mean, this guy is a joke. He's an absolute joke. He makes Corey Canable look like Mariano Rivera. He makes Craig Kimbrell look like Brad Lidge. He makes Sir Anthony Dominguez look like prime Ryan Madsen. I mean, this guy he he if he doesn't have his stuff, you might as well tell him to fake an injury out there so we can get someone else in. Oh my goodness. I mean, how do you have faith to go to the guy? You know what I would say? I don't care about money, I don't care contract whatever. He's earned it, he's pitched his way to this spot. Kirkering is the top ratey guy, you pitch in Kirkering's spot. And we'll see where you guys are at throughout the rest of the season, but you cannot trust Brad Keller in the back end of that bullpen. He's gotta be a middle relief. Because, my lord, and I would say the same for Jose Alvarado, except there's no left-handed pitcher that you trust. I'm not throwing Tanner Banks in there. I'm sorry, I can't do it. He's been worse than Jose Alvarado, who recently has looked, I mean, aside from that two-run blast by Churio, he has recently looked a little bit better, but I still don't have faith in him. Phillies held on for that one run win, thankfully. Keller miraculously got three outs. I, you know, I don't know if he made a deal, but he got three or three outs in the inning, and uh we were on to today. And today was a letdown. It was Christopher Sanchez's worst performance in about a month and a half. He gave up four runs on, you know, the eight hits with a walk and three strikeouts. And let's face it, let's call it like it is. This was supposed to be a test today for Christopher Sanchez, because hey, Mizarowski may have just won the Cy Young the other night. You gotta go out there and turn in a pretty darn good performance. Now, obviously, that's you know, not a hundred percent true. Mizarowski did not win the Cy Young, but he gave a Cy Young-esque performance. And I know Sanchez had the streak, and that's all you know, Heg. We're not taking anything away from that. But when you look at those accolades from Mizarowski and then you see Christopher Sanchez take the mound, you gotta give the bar to the Miz at the moment. I I mean you just Do. And then the Phillies offense today. You know, it would have been great if they would have said to Sanchi at some point, you know what, man? We see you don't have your stuff today. I mean, obviously they're not going to say that to him, but to a man, hey, he doesn't have his stuff today. He's won us so many games through that incredible stretch. Let's put on a performance for him today. And what is the Phillies off what what do the Phillies do? They go four for thirty-one with no walks and six strikeouts. They barreled the ball well only about six tim six times. Did they, you know, at the very least have a hard out or barrel it up well. They I mean awful against Harrison today. Just a disgusting performance that they should really be embarrassed about and tucking their tail between their legs. I mean obviously they d you got another one tomorrow, but they should feel very motivated heading into tomorrow to write the ship. But the one guy who I think shouldn't even get dressed, shouldn't come out for batting practice, probably shouldn't even step anywhere close to the clubhouse, just s somehow, some way you get to the dugout with having without having to do any of that. Don't even look at your glove. Don't you know, hell, you could sit there in street clothes for all I care. Trey Turner should not start tomorrow. Trey Turner shouldn't start tomorrow. Hell, he probably shouldn't start the series. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't start all week. He has been awful. Just absolutely awful. And this is the same guy who stood up in that Dodgers Club away clubhouse last year after game four and said in the cameras, I you know, w w this is it's still a championship team. I want everyone back next year. This is still a championship club. I still believe in the you know twenty-six guys in the room or however many they have for the postseason roster. Well, dude. Several guys have stepped up. Several guys have gone on rolls throughout the season, they've gotten on streaks. You on the other hand, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat. You couldn't hit the baseball at this point without an oar. I mean, I get it. It's one of the hardest things to do in sports, and argu arguably the hardest is to be able to record a hit. You know, you can do everything right and line out to the pitcher. But let's be honest. How much money he's making, the NL batting title champion last year, and then his comments after the game were interesting to say the least. First, here's Don Mattingley, who begins with talking about whether or not Trey needs a day, and then here was Trey Turner on his offensive output.

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Nothing really other than just Trey's just not having success. Right now we're not having success. Uh it never looks good. Uh I know Trey's struggling to get it going and all that, but you know, we'll look at it day to day where he's at over the next probably say two weeks, two weeks to three, we're gonna try to start getting make sure guys getting off their feet a little bit, and Trey be possibly one of those guys too, just like everybody else.

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I mean, definitely frustrated, you know. Um feels like just missing every pitch I could possibly miss. Um I don't want to try, you know, uh frustrates physically feels like it's just uh not getting the job done, so it's just uh frustrating. I feel like first pitch is really pitching like really frustrated with missing mistakes. I mean, I feel like the last two three pictures really well. Everything feels like it's in the zone. And then you know this series finally I feel like I got some pictures hit in the low zone at times through my bats and just felt them all off. So um, that's what I'm most frustrated with. I I mean I'll chase here and there, I'll strike out here and there, but just missing mistakes is it's not acceptable.

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That's my point. He needs a I mean you can just listen to him. He needs a day. His mental is just horrific. You know, it worked for Jimmy in 09 when Charlie gave him like a week off. Again, give Trey Turner a week off. I get give him at tomorrow at minimum off. And Ricky Batalico said it after the game, you did it for Stott, you did it for Bohm. Hell, sometimes Marshall sit. Now they're not making big money, which I know is really the root of the reason why Trey is not sitting, but if you're not gonna sit him, drop him in the lineup. Now, granted, Matt Engley said, well, I don't know who really would come up and take a spot, he makes a good point there. But just I at that point, then sit 'em. Tell him to go grab, you know, grab a spot on the bench. Sit there and kind of watch the game from a different angle, you know, just p be in the dugout, be amongst the guys, and have a little siesta, I don't know. I mean, do whatever you do when you sit in the dugout. And his defense poor. He had a play up the middle he should have made. I mean, it's just he cannot start tomorrow night, I'm telling you. And if they throw him out there, I I don't think you're gonna get much better results. Now, Christopher Sanchez, as we mentioned, he did not pitch well and it was the first time in a month and a half. So what really was the reasoning behind that? Well, Don Mattingley gave his two cents and Christopher Sanchez threw uh Daniel Daniello uh did as well.

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Yeah, a little bit uncharacteristic. Um just just V load down a touch, I thought today. You know, with that, then it's usually a little more time up there, so I think it V load down a little bit. Uh other than that, it really still kind of hangs in. It's not like you take the homer away. Um kind of a break and ball just sit there.

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You know, I think uh everything was off today. Um, especially my energy, I'd say. Uh it wasn't as it usually is, but you know, not to use it as an excuse uh uh just go out during days like this and try to go out during battle and that's what I try to do today. Uh I think I can sleep last night. I think it's not excuse. Of course there's a difference. I mean JT JT uh China is stuffy, but we're trying to like catch it in the week for over ten years, so of course it's like they're all different, but you're gonna you're gonna feel a different two different guys. No, no cra I don't think so.

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Diego Daniel, I'm sorry, botched his name. I was Don Matt. Too many too many names that start with these here on the Phillies, but you know, Christopher Sanchez, it was always gonna be expected he was gonna have a bad start eventually. I mean, even I I was at I was at a game once the the literal game before he threw his perfect game, I was at the start for Roy Halliday, and he went like six innings, you know, similar to Sanchez, gave up like three runs, gave up a home run, and it was against the Red Sox, you know, and this is 2010 obviously, so the Red Sox are pretty good. But, you know, much like the Milwaukee Brewers, but you know, it it sucks when you see the Ace go out there and he can't he can't pitch as well as you watch on TV, or this start he just doesn't have it. But again, the offense was a joke. Second time in three games you get shut out. Embarrassing. And now the Phillies will bring in their NLES rivals, the Miami Marlins, as the Phillies currently hold a half a game spot ahead of the Padres for the second spot in the wild card. They are a game back of the Cardinals. Um the Nationals to the game back of the Padres, too. Nationals two games above 500. Marlins come into this 36 and 36. Now, here's the interesting factoid about these Miami Marlins. And I'm not sure if a lot of people really know this, but in their last twelve games, the Marlins are actually ten and two. That's ten and two since June first. They swept the Nationals in DC. They took two of three from the Diamondbacks, or two of three from the Rays, they swept the Diamondbacks, and they took two of three from the Pirates. So they are on a nice little four-game series streak, and obviously I'm sure flush it as soon as possible, but keep it in the back of your mind when they see him again. But they of course remember when they lost three or four to the Phillies back in early May. And from the Phillies standpoint, you gotta say, screw that. We know this is a time of the year where we need to get things going, and we gotta get clicking again after an embarrassing series in Milwaukee. Let's get it going, and let's take two out of three from these guys. Because here's what's gonna be on the mound. Game one tomorrow night, Zach Wheeler, five and two with the two two two ERA. He pitched six innings, giving up a run on three hits with two walks, and eight strikeouts in that second start of the year against Miami. Now, Ryan Gusto, who is a former 2019 11th round pick by the Astros, he made his major league debut with Houston last year and was traded at the deadline in exchange for Jesus Sanchez to the Marlins. Now he's gonna make the start tomorrow night. He's 0-1 with the six flat ERA and two starts. He's gonna combine six innings, giving up three runs on six hits with two walks and five strikeouts. Those are his numbers and starts. So probably now combined six innings. He won two innings in one and four in another. So there's not a ton of length there. But the big thing is he's never faced the Phillies before. That's anytime we start off with that, it's what what armed is okay, he's a right-handed pitcher, but he's never faced them before. So already your antennas go up and you go, oh no. This guy might very well give a performance that could challenge Jacob Mizarowski. I mean, let's face it. I mean, come on. And if they lose the Zach Wheeler start and the Sanchez start back to back, I'm gonna throw a fit. If I'm on here tomorrow night, I am legitimately gonna throw a fit. Because there is no way possible you lose both of those games. Just come on. Now, game two on Tuesday, we'll see Jesus Lazardo take them out. He's five and four with a four-three-five ERA. He went six and a third innings earlier this season against Miami, gave up two runs on eight hits with ten strikeouts. Now, the thing about Zeus, and here's the concerning part with him, he's one-and-four with a seven-three-four ERA at home this year. Now, in a couple starts, alright, you know, that's not r really a theme. Now it's a theme. I don't know what his deal is with pitching at home, but he's got to figure it out here as soon as possible because it's, you know, come on, that can't happen. Now, pitching for the Marlins is going to be, and starting the game for the Marlins is former Philly starter Tyler Phillips. Remember him from a couple years ago? He's one and one with a 186 ERA. Now, Tyler Phillips is typically coming out of the bullpen. He's got two saves this year. He has made three starts in this season. He's actually, you know, hell. He's looked pretty good. Um, and let's face it, out of the bullpen, you know, where he's appeared the last two seasons, he's been able to really find a home there as a right-handed pitcher. And even in the back end of their bullpen. Now, Tyler Phillips, I don't have his numbers in front of me at the moment. Oh, here they are. He he's making $794,000 this year with the Marlins, compared to what Brad Keller's making for the Phillies. Now, the Phillies traded him for cash once they acquired Carlos Hernandez, who was another right-handed bust of a pitcher for them. Dave. Dude. You're killing me. You're absolutely killing me. Trade him for cash. Anyways. The Phillies could be seeing a bullpen game with this start. Now, Tyler Phillips, he has started his last two. He won three and two thirds, and he did go five in the most recent start against the Mets actually both against the Mets. 72 pitches in his most recent 59 before. So maybe they won. They might not. I guess it'll depend upon Clayton McCullough's, the manager of the Marlins, his kind of outlook. Actually, the outlook is from general manager Gabe Kapler. I'm sure there's a call coming down from somewhere saying, hey, we gotta put in a we we we gotta put in, you know, some hurler out there to come in if if he's going six strong like he did with Aranola. Now game three is an interesting one. Because it sees Andrew Painter make a return to the mound. Now he's scheduled as a starter. They could still use some stupid opener. He's one and seven with a six four three ERA. Earlier in the year, he won five innings. He gave up three runs on seven hits with three walks and seven strikeouts against Miami. Now the Phillies hitters will face Sandy Alcantara, whom they have a pretty good understanding of. He's six and four with a four-two-five ERA. He's not the same 22 NL Psi young Sandy. He's one and seven with a four-four eight ERA versus the Phillies since 2022 and 12 starts. Last time he really had a Sandy Alcantara start against the Phillies was in August of 2023, and the Phillies came back to win that game in Miami, but he won eight innings. He didn't allow a run on four hits. Surprise, surprise, but they came back and won the game. I'll take that the next three days if that means they're throwing up W's. But anytime you see Sandy Alcantara and you remember that, you always go, but it's still Sandy Alcantara. And there's still a chance he can give them a big start. Let's face it, the Marlins are riding high, they're riding momentum, they're at 500. There's some belief in that in that clubhouse. You know, I hope whomever Gabe Kapler has signed to be his Hector Neris, or he's signed to be his you know, guy who's looking to get fifteen outs in a game, like Augusto here, the Phillies can solve, because anytime you go up against that guy, whether he's managing the team, whether he's the first base coach, whether he's the you know, the assistant to the hitting instructor or the general manager in this case, you want to sweep them in the worst way possible. So thanks everyone for tuning in. We are going to be back on here throughout the series, and then we'll of course be on to recap this one against the fish. So long, folks, and we'll talk to you next time.