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The Site Shed | Systems, Strategy and Growth for Tradies and Contractors
The 8 Invisible Things Customers Are Silently Judging You On | ft. Justin Herald | Ep. 508
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Being good at your trade is the price of entry now, not the point of difference. Every customer already assumes you can do the job, so it's the stuff underneath that decides whether they hire you, refer you, or quietly go looking elsewhere. Matt Jones sits down with Justin Herald, entrepreneur, speaker and the man behind Service Rebellion, to unpack the eight things every customer is silently weighing up every time they deal with a trade business, most of which have nothing to do with how good the work actually is.
Justin built his first business on a $50 loan and $1.25 in the bank, grew it into a licensed brand sold in more than 180 companies worldwide, and has spent the years since studying why customers stay loyal to some businesses and quietly vanish from others. In this one you'll get the eight invisible evaluations customers make (importance, emotion, expectation, effort, certainty, understanding, personalisation and consistency), the phone call that cost four different trade businesses a job before they even picked up, and the emotional bank account concept that decides whether your business survives its next stuff-up. If a technically brilliant job still isn't winning you repeat customers, this is the missing piece.
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KEY CHAPTERS
00:00 - Introduction
02:02 - Meet Justin Herald
02:23 - The Eight Invisible Things
04:21 - Expectation, Effort And Certainty
07:52 - Personalisation And The Phone Test
10:05 - Consistency Across Your Team
11:58 - From $1.25 To A Global Brand
16:18 - Why Service Rebellion Exists
19:13 - Say Something, Even Nothing
23:37 - The Reason Behind The Form
29:16 - Hiring For Personality
31:34 - Paying For Referrals
34:02 - The Market You're Not Tapping
37:21 - Letterbox Drops And QR Codes
45:22 - Websites Are For Storytelling
48:46 - The Emotional Bank Account
54:18 - Service Rebellion, The Book
55:52 - Closing Remarks and Resources
About the Guest: Justin Herald Justin Herald is an entrepreneur, speaker and the author of nine books, including his latest, Service Rebellion. He built his first business, the Attitude clothing brand, from a $50 loan into a licensed brand sold in every country through more than 180 companies, before selling it and moving into speaking and writing full time. He now speaks at more than 100 conferences a year and works with businesses, plenty of them trades, on the customer experience standards that keep clients loyal and referring.
Website: www.ServiceRebellion.com
Referral system mentioned in the episode: www.ReferUsNetwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinherald/
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